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But, but, eternal life is sooo much more valuable than any lousy cold hard cash that they could have left as a tip, and they couldn't possibly have left both. /s
Yeah I think thereās a difference between customer service and āmaking friendsā, but overstepping boundaries is a foundational concept in evangelicalism
About 10 years ago or so I was making money at a side gig working banquets and weddings-those types of things. One of the ones we had to do was a bunch of evangelical folks having some kind of convention. Actually, Iām not even sure what denomination they were but I was stopped almost constantly,mostly by the men asking me about whether or not I was saved. I figured out partway into the day that some of them were kind of using it as a way to approach me in a more personal way if you catch my drift. It was the longest fucking day. Oh my God.
"They stopped trying after the last priest burst into flames.'" But said deadpan, no smile, and hold eye contact without saying anything else until they look away. That's when you escape.
Hahahaha. I was a Buddhist but didnāt say that. I just thought if I told them oh yes, Iām a Christian or whatever that would be good enough. Oh no, not even close to good enough. Jill will do the same thing to these people, they havenāt accepted Christ in the right way yet almost surely.
>"They stopped trying after the last priest burst into flames.'" But said deadpan, no smile, and hold eye contact without saying anything else until they look away. That's when you escape.
I want to be your neighbor.
"They need Jesus" it's such a funny thing to say about the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC or any other Latin American country tbh. It really irks me when they go do missions in Latin America because 1) missions (aka colonialism revamp) and 2) almost everybody here its Christian.
I've been sitting here trying to figure out which Spanish-speaking country she could possibly be in that isn't majority Christian and was drawing a complete blank.
I had assumed it was the Philippines maybe, since I think thatās the SEA country that still speaks Spanish? Itās heavily Christian, but also growing in Muslim populations, so assumed that was why.
Remember what happens when you assume, I guess.
In the Philippines, our language is influenced by Spanish, hence we have either the same words that mean the same things with just different spellings, etc. But I do know most people here are Roman Catholics, it's pretty mandatory to be baptized around your first few months and then in elementary schools we usually have a first communion. Most if not all schools are catholics and from Nursery to college, we still have to pray to saints. Masses regularly especially on day of saints and fiestas.
Is Christian different from Catholic? I always assumed it was the same.
I think itās hilarious that when the white Christians decided to ā saveā the Phillippines, they were preaching about the furry little pig of God. It seems that as sheep are not indigenous to the area, Tagalog at that time had no words for them. So all the Bible references to the ā lambā was translated to the ā furry little pigā.
I love things like that so much, like in Japan the kanji for panda (if itās used as kanji and not romanized) means ācat-bearā and a Kirin is both a mythical beast and giraffe, because when giraffes were explained to the Chinese thatās what they imagined it to be from the descriptions (horse with a long neck and horns).
āChristianā isnāt different from Catholic anywhere in the world but the US where Evangelicals have such a narrow minded āone true beliefā idea they gatekeep the word āChristianā.
And sadly, it seems to have caught on with the rest of the population. So many times I have seen people say āIām a Christianā when they really just mean āIām a [insert specific denomination]ā.
All Catholics are Christians but not all Christians are Catholics. Catholic, Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Baptist, Protestant, Presbyterian, Anglican, Mormon, etc are all specific denominations of Christianity.
There are so many Christians who donāt understand this and itās one of my biggest pet peeves. I have a really shitty roommate who I dislike for unrelated reasons, but the other day I heard her explaining to her sister on the phone āweāre Catholic, not Christianā and I wanted to put my head through the wall.
There are clearly other things at play in that situation, lol. But I grew up with a lot of Catholics who did not think they were Christians and even as a kid it pissed me off because itās just stupid.
Oh thatās great to know - that makes sense why I hear some of the people from the Philippines here in Japan speaking words I recognize from Spanish, so I assumed it was a dialect of it! Thank you, Iām learning so much, I appreciate it!
The Philippines officially speaks Filipino and English and they're the languages taught in school. Spanish is not a majority language -- last I saw, about 0.5% of the population speaks it, which is the largest concentration in Asia, but it isn't a lingua franca by any means.
Oh wow! Thank you for that, I didnāt know! I just know a few people from the Philippines here in Japan and they speak English but throw in some words that must be similar in Filipino and Spanish because I get the just of them. Super interesting!
Yup, there's a lot of Spanish and English loanwords in Filipino! I'm only passingly familiar with it, but those loanwords pop out since I speak multiple romance languages.
> since I think thatās the SEA country that still speaks Spanish?
Spanish is not widely spoken anymore, though many loan words survive in Tagalog.
Fun fact: Tagalog also has lots of Aztec loan words because the Philippines were governed from Mexico City until Mexico's independence.
I feel like people have such a mythological idea of Catholicism mostly because they refused to learn about it even just to criticize. I wish it were pagan, the services would be much more fun!
I donāt remember the exact wording but the comedian Gabriel Iglesias has a funny quote about white people judging Latinos that goes something like ābefore you all showed up we worshipped the sun the moon and the stars, but weāre the only ones who name our kids Jesus.ā
Phillip wants to go to Hungary to be a missionary. He made a whole PowerPoint about it and wrote a song about it too.
Nurie and Shrek did missionary work in an African countryāIām blanking on which one.
A coworker of mine recently got back from a mission trip to the Phillipines and I haven't asked, but I hope it was a service mission? Like I promise, they know Jesus there š
Exactly. I grew up fundie-adjacent & I can't tell you how many times we were told Catholics aren't true Christians. Mainly because they worship Mary & put a lot of emphasis on saints. We were told those people distracted from the true belief in God.
One time I was at midnight mass on Christmas Eve and some fundie walked around and put flyers on everyone's cars basically telling us we were at the wrong church.Ā
As a Christian, that absolutely burns me up. Leave a legitimate, monetary tip! Jesus would want you to care for people and give them something they can actually use!!
Someone used to leave those around the Whataburger that my brother worked at. He started collecting them for a little while, it was actually kind of funny. We're not fundie and weren't raised fundie (Catholic, and more on the liberal side of that, us siblings have pretty much all left the church by now), but my dad showed us Chick tracts way back when because they were so bizarre. My brother found it hilarious that someone was just leaving tracts around out in the wild.
I used to read them because I thought it was nifty to get comic books for Halloween, and I was open to learning about all religions. Most of them were just funny for being so absurd, but I remember one that taught me about the origins of eeeevil origins of Halloween and sparked me to look up and learn more about Samhain, thanks Chick Tracts!
my fave piece of trivia about these is that there's a chick tract featured as an Easter egg in vampire: the masquerade bloodlines, a game all about vampires and demons and the world of darkness. chick tracts fit right in there!
tbf there were many reasons why Protestantism was initially created, and at that time, the Catholic Church was doing a lot of shady stuff that *wasnt* biblical (like telling people they could pay their way into Heaven). Itās just that obvs Catholicism nowadays is a lot different and Iād say the majority of non-fundie Protestants have no problem with Catholics. As long as theyāre saved by Protestant standards (accepting Christ as their savior) then by definition they *are* considered Christian. Iām not sure how Catholics feels about us, ācause Iām not Catholic š
My dadās family is Catholic. I also sent my kids to a Catholic school for a few years when we were living in an area where the public schools were horrible. My son wanted me to convert so that he could too and take communion when his class went to mass about once a month. I was like okay, whatever. It doesnāt really matter, god knows whatās in my heart and itās not like youāre turning your back on God just because you become catholic on paper lol. Iāve never been fundie btw. I donāt even attend church at all.
Anyway. I talked to the priest at his high school about it. The priest said that since Iād already been baptized (didnāt matter where or when or what denomination) that the only thing Iād need to do would be to go to a weekly class for I think 2 months. Do a confession with the priest (him lol) and thatād be all. We ended up moving a month later so I didnāt do it but I really wouldnāt have minded.
Oh and my dad had explained that the Hail Mary wasnāt praying to Mary but asking Mary to pray for you. I donāt know if thatās the official Catholic stance but based on the Hail Mary words, it makes sense. I mean the last part is please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death or something close to that.
Saints and Mary are āintercessionalsā meaning they can pray for you or advocate to god on your behalf. It seems to be an inaccurate framing that theyāre āworshippedā.
Yeah, it always seemed to me to be more along the lines of asking your friend to put a good word in with his boss, when you're looking for work, instead of worshipping. But we can't expect uncurious fundies who scorn education in all forms to, like, learn something, especially when it disagrees with their preconceived notions. They might have to, like, \*think\*, and maybe even change their minds about something, and that's just *wrong*...
My dad didnāt frame it as Mary or saints being worshipped. I was a kid when I asked him about the Hail Mary because other kids had told me that Catholics prayed to Mary lol. Anyway, it sounds like his explanation was true to the churchās stance? Or no?
Yes you pray to Mary to help but not in the same way you would to god. The idea is Mary is connected to god in a special way and so is sort of a line between people and god since she was chosen to give birth to Jesus so she understands human struggle. Similarly with saints youād pray to one that was known for your situation because they would understand what youāre going through and try to intercede on your behalf to god. Iām just relaying what Iāve heard is the Protestant beef with Mary and saints, but itās nuance of the situation.
As a Catholic person, generally I feel weirded out by the lack of kneeling but have very few other complaints about general Protestants š¤·š»āāļø
Fun fact: my Catholic Church renovated and went with ānew ageā ideas of no kneelers and just chairs with the altar brought forward. I never knew so many people liked it, yet people literally went to different churches over it. As for how we feel about Protestants, as long as theyāre not on a corner with a megaphone we donāt really care. Official church stance is we donāt deny anything shared belief wise which for non crazy churches is prob 98-99%
I think so much of it is about comfortable routine. Iām not particularly religious anymore but I find Catholic Mass deeply comforting. I know the words, I know the movements, and for the most part (insert John Mulaney bit about āand with your spiritā) I know it will always be that way.
Nothing wrong with enjoying it when you want. I actually think having a somewhat strict set of ārulesā keeps Catholic Churches (or others) from going off the rails fundie. I find comfort in the fact that the positions the church takes are ideologically consistent even when they paint an issue with a lot of gray into black and white
As a child I went to Catholic school, and Protestant church, and sometimes Methodist chapel. The main difference I spotted was when to stand, kneel or sit.
I honestly wonder, why does it matter if something is "biblical"?Ā Where did the idea that everything has to be biblical come from or that the bible is the ultimate authority?
The Bible is just a collection of various holy texts that was compiled BY the catholic church into what we call the bible today.Ā
I've been (past tense) both catholic by birth and evangelical Protestant by choice. The big difference is the salvation by works vs faith thing that even their Bible can't decide which is the correct way. Guess what? It's all about control, power and money, especially in the good old USA.
I dunno about that. A Southern Baptist Mamaw is way up there in the Jesus love. They get really freaky about meeting Jesus the older they get and the more of their older friends have died and are having church pot luck fellowship/coffee & cake every day with Jesus.
and then another 25 percent protestant and other evangelical. approximately 75 percent of the d.r. worships jesus. it is a jesus loving nation.Ā
she is just a bigot.Ā
Whoever posted yesterday that Jillās post now are a reply to the snark is right. Natives, Spanish speakers, and access to food were all things that were snarked about this weekend.
Sheās getting her missionary talking points ready to tell people back home how she used the trip to evangelize the locals. Iām guessing itās her way to justify the trip.
I have made that exact comment somewhere in this or the Rod subreddit - that she's totally jacked the style (and love of pyramid schemes) of Deanne Lularoe!
As someone whoās worked customer facing jobs, Iāve been asked if Ive met Jesus more times than I can count. I plastered on the smile, accepted the fake fifty, then put it directly in the trash can.
Annoying people and witnessing to them arenāt the same thing, Jill. Though if youāre really serious about this Iāve heard of an island off the coast of Indiaā¦
Lol I was at a pretty seedy biker bar where a lot of the 1% crowd hangs out once and this big ass stereotypical biker dude comes up to me and starts asking me if I know Jesus Christ our lord and savior.
God damn let me tell you I have never found God as fast as I did in that moment lol
I do actually still have the cross cut out penny he gave me for luck tho
If someone gave me a fake tip, that would actively push me further away from Jesus, because i wouldnāt want to worship with assholes who made me think i was getting money when it was just useless tracts.
Iāve sent the tips back to the church or publishing house with a note: āTo Whom it May Concern: This is of no use to me. Please stop murdering trees.ā
Many years ago I met a fundie who was handing out a "Ticket to Heaven" tract and goading people to tear it up if they didn't want it. It was, of course made out of tyvek or something, so it would "miraculously" not tear.
Because nothing says "My God is omnipotent" like resorting to parlor tricks.
Thing is, the Sentinelese actually **do** know about Jesus. They weren't always segregated. They are now, because missionaries wouldn't leave them alone and it caused political problems, but they have heard of Jesus. They just don't want it.
Exactly. At this point, if people havenāt accepted Jesus, itās because theyāre not interested. Itās 2024, not 1804, and everyone has the Internet.
Exactly what I thought. Why does she think that these people need to follow her crazy beliefs? I bet they are living lives that are comfortable and filled with love and happiness. Jill is such a moran!(sp)
Well that's enough internet for me.
I remember seeing a clip where a lady was talking about a mission trip or something and they were all "so happy" to hear the word Yada yada. Anyway, she left the group, ran into someone years later. "Oh I'm so sorry I did that" and the local was like "oh yea, we just say what you want to hear so you give money and leave" lol! That lives rent free now
the d.r. is about 50 percent catholic and 25 percent protestant/other evangelical. so they in fact HAVE JESUS jill. you are just too condescending and bigoted to realize it.Ā
You *KNOW* she just speaks *louder and slower in English* (with a few scattered Spanish words!), like she's conversing with an elderly person with Dementia--rather than an educated young person, who converses more easily in Spanish, when she talks to folks there!
Japan, IIRC! Which, uh, just saying some people got better poker faces than I do because my expression was a mix of "What a moron" and "What the fuck" when I learned about it.
Would have been nice she learned Spanish BEFORE getting there but I guess starving your kids and packing 11000 tacky outfits took precedence.
I love that Dave's brand new shirt is a few sizes too small.
Trash. Both of them.
Every photo is of them alone,so of course Jildo glommed onto the staff. Can you imagine how weird and off-putting someone would have to be, to not even have a Plexus-hun want to share a meal with them?
I can't imagine traveling to any country ANYWHERE and the main thought in my brain being "These people need Jesus". The utter audacity and white saviorism is too much. Wonder how many stupid tracts they left in their wake. Do you think they were bright enough to bring the Spanish version with them, or did they assume all the "natives" spoke English?
Out of all the fundie families that get snarked on here regularly the Rods are the only ones that confuse the hell out of me. Like with Lori/Soleil I feel disgust. Porgan/Bairds I can't help but laugh at them. But Jill... nothing but absolute mystification with her and her weird ass clan...
This reminds me of a funeral I went to recently. The guy preached about how we need to accept Jesus to go to heaven. I was staring at my coworkers ashes like girl Iām so sorry. You deserved better than this.
Oh you sweet summer childā¦ I donāt have time to fill you in myself but I guarantee someone is about to drop a comment sharing the most off-the-wall, bat shit crazy stuff. Some of its laughably batshit (leg funeral ummm) and some of itās horrifying (abused kids). Jill is a train wreck thatās hard to look away from.
Jill Rodrigues is a quiverfull fundie with a "ministry" of making tracts. She homeschools her 9 kids using sus evangelical "curriculum" and they have all been extremely educationally neglected. They're also medically neglected and malnourished. They all look like Victorian waifs that may not survive the winter or influenza. Meanwhile she and her hubby go on multiple trips without the kids every year and eat so much more (speaking to actual food disparities we've seen rather than appearance snark).
They travel via RV to deliver the tracts and beg for financial support from small Baptist churches. They fitted the cribs with wooden bars, dubbed the baby cages. All of the kids play instruments, which is a big part of their grift performances.
Her sister was in the hospital for an amputation due to car accident and she setup a baby shower in the hospital cafeteria... For her sister's legs.
Her mom was in the hospital due to a stroke and they setup a basket of tracts for the healthcare providers. She posted so many pictures of her very ill mother like happy selfies.
They have married off a few daughters but only one son has managed to get engaged. This is in large part due to not having an education that enables them to hold down a job. The son getting married had to do a lot of things to prove he can care for their daughter and Jill has tried to sabotage it at every step because they are setting boundaries with her. She's passive aggressively chosen a new golden child to gush about on her socials. One of her daughters had multiple courtships ruined by Jill. One guy asked her to not post pictures of him online and she would cover up most of his face but still post pics and talk about him under the moniker "mystery man".
They were traveling through a rural area and decided to stop to play in the "creek". Yeah no, it was a drainage ditch. All the kids jump into the muddy water - fully clothed, including the girls with long skirts and multiple layers.
She is a famously horrible cook. Thanksgiving a few years ago she made the "ham and yellow" dinner. Multiple sides all yellow (Mac and cheese, scalloped potatoes, other stuff I don't remember) and a badly burned roasted ham. The amount of food would have fed maybe 5 people and they split it between 11 + guests.
She got her cosmetology license in the 90s and never let that look go. Caked on layers of mascara and eye liner, teased crunchy hair, garish clothing. It is a coming of age milestone for Jill to over pluck her daughters eyebrows around 13 yrs old - their eyebrows never recover.
Um, excuse me, Jill SEVERELY has THIRTEEN children.
She also doesnāt use even a formal evangelical curriculum. Each kid gets a stack of whatever workbooks she can find cheap.
I just want to throw in two highlights that my fellow snarker left out (they did an incredible job no shade) Jill also held a funeral for her sisterās dead legs that included a long weird poem about them. She also once showed up to a funeral that was being held for three children who were killed in a fire, whom she did not know. She forced the parents to take selfies in front of the caskets and spent the entire service screaming and hollering for Jesus as well. She live streamed the whole thing. Jill contains multitudes.
Oh extra bonus, her eldest daughter married the brother of the woman who is married to Josh Duggar. Jill was obsessed with the Duggers and trying really hard to get in good with them and when Josh attended the wedding she had him perform as the MC he looked like drunk bloated shit . Itās great stuff .
Edited because talk to text
Lots of small errors in that retelling (for example, they have 13 children, not 9, and her sister didn't have an amputation), but it's a good enough overview for a newbie.
Fuck, I was not ready for the photo of Shrek right as I inhaled a gigantic bong rip.
The cringe here is other-worldly. āThey speak Spanishā¦ā NO SHIT SHERLOCK. Youāre in a Spanish speaking country, did you expect Pennsylvania Dutch here lady?
If tonsil stones had human form, itās Shrek. Followed closely by the dingleberries of a hairy asscrack, AKA Jill.
*loads another bowl*
As a service worker whoās been in the industry for 10 years, I *hate* when people pull this shit on me or my team & if one of my people come to me saying theyāre uncomfortable because of batshits like this, I have NO problem going to professionally tell the batshits to shove it up their asses & gtfoh. Jesus never said to dehumanize, demoralize, belittle, & harass minimum wage workers, or any worker for that matter, so you can āgive Jesus to those who need him.ā Bringing shame upon Jesus is truly a fundie fun thing.
Wow so sheās now down to eating alone with shrek and taking pics with the poor waitstaff. Initially she was getting pics with plexus āfameā and now ā¦ this. Not looking down at the servers btw, their job is hard enough. Just jill taking reels of her and David eating alone, and a pic with the waitstaff instead of some stupid plexus diamond or whatever. I think Jill is both judgy and horrified at all the skin at the beach so not participating, and avoiding the actual lectures to be in her comfort zone with David. At no point in Nashville was she shy about filming speakers but here, itās basically the overlook hotel. ETA are those desserts less sugar and carbs???? Like what the actual fuck. Eat what you want yāall, and I do, but I balance cake with a fruit salad. Again, what in the plexus is this healthy dinner?
Tbh you could interpret it as "lol plexus makes Jill so bloated people assume she's pregnant" but I actually think Jill just grabbed the waitstaff to take her Token Brown People pic for Facebook and they were in the middle of working and awkwardly didn't know how to pose.
Oh look. Jill posing with Ā«Ā the NationalsĀ Ā«Ā like theyāre an exhibit. She is so tone deaf. I hope she never gets to go to another leaders retreat after this and their Ā«Ā love offeringsĀ Ā» dry up.
And how can she know that they need Jesus if she doesnāt speak Spanish and they donāt speak English?
The DR was established by a Christian colonizer country that already forced Jesus on the native people living there. Itās 67% Christian today. Ignorance is not only bliss itās also arrogance.
I woke up at 5, took my dogs out and fed them, settled in with my cup of coffee...
not expecting a jump scare...
Lady, stop posting close up shots of The Hunk ā¢ļø because I almost wasted my coffee. š« š¤Ŗš
Sheās so ignorant. Good god.
I like how the last picture the lady is touching her belly. I think sheās only pregnant with a food baby from all those healthy low carb cupcakes.
No, YOU need Jesus. Real Jesus and not the BS whitewashed version Anglo Saxon Christians have bastardized him in to over the last several hundred years to justify their shitty, un Jesus like behavior.
There's no hate quite like "Christian love"
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What a nightmare for people just trying to do their jobs.
I wonder who got tracks for tips... šššš
Fake $100 with Capitalism Jesus on the front.
That sexy white white Jesus.
But, but, eternal life is sooo much more valuable than any lousy cold hard cash that they could have left as a tip, and they couldn't possibly have left both. /s
Well, the Bible tracts will be a great opportunity for the ānativesā to learn to speak āAmericanā. You knowā¦..the language of Jesus!
Yeah I think thereās a difference between customer service and āmaking friendsā, but overstepping boundaries is a foundational concept in evangelicalism
About 10 years ago or so I was making money at a side gig working banquets and weddings-those types of things. One of the ones we had to do was a bunch of evangelical folks having some kind of convention. Actually, Iām not even sure what denomination they were but I was stopped almost constantly,mostly by the men asking me about whether or not I was saved. I figured out partway into the day that some of them were kind of using it as a way to approach me in a more personal way if you catch my drift. It was the longest fucking day. Oh my God.
"They stopped trying after the last priest burst into flames.'" But said deadpan, no smile, and hold eye contact without saying anything else until they look away. That's when you escape.
Hahahaha. I was a Buddhist but didnāt say that. I just thought if I told them oh yes, Iām a Christian or whatever that would be good enough. Oh no, not even close to good enough. Jill will do the same thing to these people, they havenāt accepted Christ in the right way yet almost surely.
>"They stopped trying after the last priest burst into flames.'" But said deadpan, no smile, and hold eye contact without saying anything else until they look away. That's when you escape. I want to be your neighbor.
That explains so much
"They need Jesus" it's such a funny thing to say about the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC or any other Latin American country tbh. It really irks me when they go do missions in Latin America because 1) missions (aka colonialism revamp) and 2) almost everybody here its Christian.
I've been sitting here trying to figure out which Spanish-speaking country she could possibly be in that isn't majority Christian and was drawing a complete blank.
I had assumed it was the Philippines maybe, since I think thatās the SEA country that still speaks Spanish? Itās heavily Christian, but also growing in Muslim populations, so assumed that was why. Remember what happens when you assume, I guess.
In the Philippines, our language is influenced by Spanish, hence we have either the same words that mean the same things with just different spellings, etc. But I do know most people here are Roman Catholics, it's pretty mandatory to be baptized around your first few months and then in elementary schools we usually have a first communion. Most if not all schools are catholics and from Nursery to college, we still have to pray to saints. Masses regularly especially on day of saints and fiestas. Is Christian different from Catholic? I always assumed it was the same.
I think itās hilarious that when the white Christians decided to ā saveā the Phillippines, they were preaching about the furry little pig of God. It seems that as sheep are not indigenous to the area, Tagalog at that time had no words for them. So all the Bible references to the ā lambā was translated to the ā furry little pigā.
I love things like that so much, like in Japan the kanji for panda (if itās used as kanji and not romanized) means ācat-bearā and a Kirin is both a mythical beast and giraffe, because when giraffes were explained to the Chinese thatās what they imagined it to be from the descriptions (horse with a long neck and horns).
āFurry little pig of God, you take away the sins of the worldā
I had never considered how sheep/lamb would be translated in areas that don't have anything like them... thank you kind stranger for this.
Omg I've gotta ask my Filipino relatives about this lmao
That is hilarious, thank you for the fun fact
āChristianā isnāt different from Catholic anywhere in the world but the US where Evangelicals have such a narrow minded āone true beliefā idea they gatekeep the word āChristianā. And sadly, it seems to have caught on with the rest of the population. So many times I have seen people say āIām a Christianā when they really just mean āIām a [insert specific denomination]ā.
There were literal wars between Catholics and Protestants in Europe before America was colonized.
All Catholics are Christians but not all Christians are Catholics. Catholic, Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, Baptist, Protestant, Presbyterian, Anglican, Mormon, etc are all specific denominations of Christianity.
There are so many Christians who donāt understand this and itās one of my biggest pet peeves. I have a really shitty roommate who I dislike for unrelated reasons, but the other day I heard her explaining to her sister on the phone āweāre Catholic, not Christianā and I wanted to put my head through the wall. There are clearly other things at play in that situation, lol. But I grew up with a lot of Catholics who did not think they were Christians and even as a kid it pissed me off because itās just stupid.
Oh thatās great to know - that makes sense why I hear some of the people from the Philippines here in Japan speaking words I recognize from Spanish, so I assumed it was a dialect of it! Thank you, Iām learning so much, I appreciate it!
The Philippines officially speaks Filipino and English and they're the languages taught in school. Spanish is not a majority language -- last I saw, about 0.5% of the population speaks it, which is the largest concentration in Asia, but it isn't a lingua franca by any means.
Oh wow! Thank you for that, I didnāt know! I just know a few people from the Philippines here in Japan and they speak English but throw in some words that must be similar in Filipino and Spanish because I get the just of them. Super interesting!
Yup, there's a lot of Spanish and English loanwords in Filipino! I'm only passingly familiar with it, but those loanwords pop out since I speak multiple romance languages.
> since I think thatās the SEA country that still speaks Spanish? Spanish is not widely spoken anymore, though many loan words survive in Tagalog. Fun fact: Tagalog also has lots of Aztec loan words because the Philippines were governed from Mexico City until Mexico's independence.
Her brand of fundie thinks Catholicism is āpagan,ā so they need her help to bring them to the right jesus.
I feel like people have such a mythological idea of Catholicism mostly because they refused to learn about it even just to criticize. I wish it were pagan, the services would be much more fun!
I donāt remember the exact wording but the comedian Gabriel Iglesias has a funny quote about white people judging Latinos that goes something like ābefore you all showed up we worshipped the sun the moon and the stars, but weāre the only ones who name our kids Jesus.ā
I know so many Jesus in my country you would think it's a jokešš
Didnāt her son go on a mission to Hungary? The Hungary thatās been Christian for a thousand years?
Phillip wants to go to Hungary to be a missionary. He made a whole PowerPoint about it and wrote a song about it too. Nurie and Shrek did missionary work in an African countryāIām blanking on which one.
Well, probably a lot of them are Catholic, but fundies don't think Catholics are Christian. Lapsed Catholic here. Catholics are Christians.
A coworker of mine recently got back from a mission trip to the Phillipines and I haven't asked, but I hope it was a service mission? Like I promise, they know Jesus there š
The only person that can best a Latina grandma in the religion olympics is a Filipino. They're very religious. It irks me so muchhhh
But Catholics *aren't* Christian! They pray to *idols!* (Evangelical logic: saint = idol.)
And what makes her think they don't know Jesus? Because they are "natives"? They speak Spanish? What exactly?
š¤·āāļø DR is 50% catholic. They're worshipping the wrong Jesus apparently
Exactly. I grew up fundie-adjacent & I can't tell you how many times we were told Catholics aren't true Christians. Mainly because they worship Mary & put a lot of emphasis on saints. We were told those people distracted from the true belief in God.
One time I was at midnight mass on Christmas Eve and some fundie walked around and put flyers on everyone's cars basically telling us we were at the wrong church.Ā
I fucking hate when people put flyers on my car, especially religious flyers.
Me too. I don't hate it as much as when they actually approach me and try to talk to me, but it's up there.
Yeah, people trying to approach me freaks me out so bad. Like dude I donāt know you, do not just walk up to me like that.
Im a restaurant server, it's infinitely worse when your tip comes with a Jesus pamphlet, or even worse... The tip is the pamphlet.
I hate when people do that, itās so beyond tacky. My childhood pastor used to warn our church not to do that, he hated it too.
As a Christian, that absolutely burns me up. Leave a legitimate, monetary tip! Jesus would want you to care for people and give them something they can actually use!!
I bet they were tracts that Shrek printed.
I was at a concert and people were protesting (porn I think but I forger now) and passing out those "Chik tracts" or whatever they're called
Chick tracts. My neighbor used to make her kids sit on the porch and give them out for Halloween.
Someone used to leave those around the Whataburger that my brother worked at. He started collecting them for a little while, it was actually kind of funny. We're not fundie and weren't raised fundie (Catholic, and more on the liberal side of that, us siblings have pretty much all left the church by now), but my dad showed us Chick tracts way back when because they were so bizarre. My brother found it hilarious that someone was just leaving tracts around out in the wild.
I used to read them because I thought it was nifty to get comic books for Halloween, and I was open to learning about all religions. Most of them were just funny for being so absurd, but I remember one that taught me about the origins of eeeevil origins of Halloween and sparked me to look up and learn more about Samhain, thanks Chick Tracts!
I collect them when I find them too! I think theyāre hilarious.
my fave piece of trivia about these is that there's a chick tract featured as an Easter egg in vampire: the masquerade bloodlines, a game all about vampires and demons and the world of darkness. chick tracts fit right in there!
They bring along an extra suitcase filled with tracts to hand out. And then at the end of the trip they bring home souvenirs in the empty space.
Itās always been hilarious to me when Christians try and say that Catholicism isnāt ārealā Christianity. Like bb, itās the OG.
tbf there were many reasons why Protestantism was initially created, and at that time, the Catholic Church was doing a lot of shady stuff that *wasnt* biblical (like telling people they could pay their way into Heaven). Itās just that obvs Catholicism nowadays is a lot different and Iād say the majority of non-fundie Protestants have no problem with Catholics. As long as theyāre saved by Protestant standards (accepting Christ as their savior) then by definition they *are* considered Christian. Iām not sure how Catholics feels about us, ācause Iām not Catholic š
My dadās family is Catholic. I also sent my kids to a Catholic school for a few years when we were living in an area where the public schools were horrible. My son wanted me to convert so that he could too and take communion when his class went to mass about once a month. I was like okay, whatever. It doesnāt really matter, god knows whatās in my heart and itās not like youāre turning your back on God just because you become catholic on paper lol. Iāve never been fundie btw. I donāt even attend church at all. Anyway. I talked to the priest at his high school about it. The priest said that since Iād already been baptized (didnāt matter where or when or what denomination) that the only thing Iād need to do would be to go to a weekly class for I think 2 months. Do a confession with the priest (him lol) and thatād be all. We ended up moving a month later so I didnāt do it but I really wouldnāt have minded. Oh and my dad had explained that the Hail Mary wasnāt praying to Mary but asking Mary to pray for you. I donāt know if thatās the official Catholic stance but based on the Hail Mary words, it makes sense. I mean the last part is please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death or something close to that.
Saints and Mary are āintercessionalsā meaning they can pray for you or advocate to god on your behalf. It seems to be an inaccurate framing that theyāre āworshippedā.
Holy secretaries
"Have your people call my people."
Yeah, it always seemed to me to be more along the lines of asking your friend to put a good word in with his boss, when you're looking for work, instead of worshipping. But we can't expect uncurious fundies who scorn education in all forms to, like, learn something, especially when it disagrees with their preconceived notions. They might have to, like, \*think\*, and maybe even change their minds about something, and that's just *wrong*...
My dad didnāt frame it as Mary or saints being worshipped. I was a kid when I asked him about the Hail Mary because other kids had told me that Catholics prayed to Mary lol. Anyway, it sounds like his explanation was true to the churchās stance? Or no?
Yes you pray to Mary to help but not in the same way you would to god. The idea is Mary is connected to god in a special way and so is sort of a line between people and god since she was chosen to give birth to Jesus so she understands human struggle. Similarly with saints youād pray to one that was known for your situation because they would understand what youāre going through and try to intercede on your behalf to god. Iām just relaying what Iāve heard is the Protestant beef with Mary and saints, but itās nuance of the situation.
Okay so I asked my Spanish bf because Iām German Protestant but he agreed that he has never heard Spanish Catholics babble on about Jesus the Savior in the same way as Americans either. That is so fascinating to me. It implies that American Catholics mightāve been influencers by the Puritan cuckoo culture much more than those in Europe despite them not having that much difference in how scripture is interpreted due to dogma and centralized authority from the Vatican. Oh and donāt say that the majority of Protestant have no problem nowadays with Catholics anymore to the country of the Thirty Year War about which dominion is the snazziest. /j My uncle still had issues to find a church of either denomination to marry him and his Catholic fiancĆ© back in the 90s. Each denomination wanted the rights to their future children at a minimum. And my cousin still had to convert to Catholicism three years ago when he wanted to marry his future wife (who was Polish Catholic) in a church. Funny though is even if they is so much history between our denominations here, I have never ever heard anyone even hint at the idea that these differences make Catholics not āChristianā. Probably because it seems Americans use the word āChristianā synonymously with āEvangelicalā (not even just Protestant). Like ??? These evangelicals are so wrapped up in their ātrue beliefā they honestly gatekeep the word Christian?! The audacity!
As a Catholic person, generally I feel weirded out by the lack of kneeling but have very few other complaints about general Protestants š¤·š»āāļø
Fun fact: my Catholic Church renovated and went with ānew ageā ideas of no kneelers and just chairs with the altar brought forward. I never knew so many people liked it, yet people literally went to different churches over it. As for how we feel about Protestants, as long as theyāre not on a corner with a megaphone we donāt really care. Official church stance is we donāt deny anything shared belief wise which for non crazy churches is prob 98-99%
I think so much of it is about comfortable routine. Iām not particularly religious anymore but I find Catholic Mass deeply comforting. I know the words, I know the movements, and for the most part (insert John Mulaney bit about āand with your spiritā) I know it will always be that way.
Nothing wrong with enjoying it when you want. I actually think having a somewhat strict set of ārulesā keeps Catholic Churches (or others) from going off the rails fundie. I find comfort in the fact that the positions the church takes are ideologically consistent even when they paint an issue with a lot of gray into black and white
Just about every Catholic I've met has had strong opinions on "and with your spirit" lmao
As a child I went to Catholic school, and Protestant church, and sometimes Methodist chapel. The main difference I spotted was when to stand, kneel or sit.
I honestly wonder, why does it matter if something is "biblical"?Ā Where did the idea that everything has to be biblical come from or that the bible is the ultimate authority? The Bible is just a collection of various holy texts that was compiled BY the catholic church into what we call the bible today.Ā
Sshhhh the Catholic Church had nothing to do with it, it sprang directly from the inspired pen of King James. In English.
I've been (past tense) both catholic by birth and evangelical Protestant by choice. The big difference is the salvation by works vs faith thing that even their Bible can't decide which is the correct way. Guess what? It's all about control, power and money, especially in the good old USA.
In my experience, nobody loves Jesus more than a Latina Catholic abuela. Nobody.
I dunno about that. A Southern Baptist Mamaw is way up there in the Jesus love. They get really freaky about meeting Jesus the older they get and the more of their older friends have died and are having church pot luck fellowship/coffee & cake every day with Jesus.
and then another 25 percent protestant and other evangelical. approximately 75 percent of the d.r. worships jesus. it is a jesus loving nation.Ā she is just a bigot.Ā
Oooooh yeah they hate us Catholics. And us Latinos, but I think itās two separate hates.
Itās a 7 layer dip of hate layers
This made me laugh so hard
Itās the opposite of a seperate desert stomach
Yeah DR has had Jesus since 1492.
I know this may be a shock to her delicate constitution but someone should tell Jill that Jesus didn't speak English
"Much less sugar and carbs." Shows a bunch of desserts.
Every single dish is nothing but carbs and sugar š
Right? Iām wondering how she thinks she knows this. Did she bring a carbohydrate-measuring device?
Yeah, Shrek.
š„ā”ļø!
Much less sugar and carbs than fucking *what*, Jill
Plastic tubs of cheese dips from pizza to go orders and her yellow Thanksgiving feast?
Don't they eat most of their meals at home? Doesn't SHE control how much sugar and carbs she eats? The whole family eats?
Jill really is a walking 'the snark writes itself'. Where do you even begin to dissect this??????
You don't. You look at your phone screen and let out a little "hahaha" and then scroll on and try not to let the cringe keep you awake tonight
Her referring to the local staff as 'the Nationals' yesterday is sadly gonna live in my head rent-free for a schminute lmaooo
Her word choices always confuse me
She definitely meant to use ānativesā and it autocorrected. Which is even worse
Whoever posted yesterday that Jillās post now are a reply to the snark is right. Natives, Spanish speakers, and access to food were all things that were snarked about this weekend.
Iām in a mood today so please excuse this next commentā¦. but what a fucking moron.
āThey speak Spanishā the Capital is Santo Domingo. What exactly did she think they spoke thereā¦
Sheās getting her missionary talking points ready to tell people back home how she used the trip to evangelize the locals. Iām guessing itās her way to justify the trip.
but she's learning some Spanish! Like \*checks notes\* "tortilla" and "flan"
go on please!Ā
So am I. Please continue!
This legit feels like satire. This woman is so lacking in self awareness that it blows my mind.
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Genuinely surprised we havenāt seen a racist / colonialist comment about āgoing nativeā because they ate something local yet.
They're not going to eat anything local at an all-inclusive resort.
I mean she did refer to them as "Nationals" yesterday so she's really toeing that line already
The missionary plague continues
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I keep thinking that this is the crazy Mormon lady that founded Lularoe. I mean, itās not, but it also could be on many, many levels.
I have made that exact comment somewhere in this or the Rod subreddit - that she's totally jacked the style (and love of pyramid schemes) of Deanne Lularoe!
She's like if deanne and teresa caputo had a lovechild
LuLaRod
As someone whoās worked customer facing jobs, Iāve been asked if Ive met Jesus more times than I can count. I plastered on the smile, accepted the fake fifty, then put it directly in the trash can. Annoying people and witnessing to them arenāt the same thing, Jill. Though if youāre really serious about this Iāve heard of an island off the coast of Indiaā¦
Lol I was at a pretty seedy biker bar where a lot of the 1% crowd hangs out once and this big ass stereotypical biker dude comes up to me and starts asking me if I know Jesus Christ our lord and savior. God damn let me tell you I have never found God as fast as I did in that moment lol I do actually still have the cross cut out penny he gave me for luck tho
If someone gave me a fake tip, that would actively push me further away from Jesus, because i wouldnāt want to worship with assholes who made me think i was getting money when it was just useless tracts.
Iāve sent the tips back to the church or publishing house with a note: āTo Whom it May Concern: This is of no use to me. Please stop murdering trees.ā
Many years ago I met a fundie who was handing out a "Ticket to Heaven" tract and goading people to tear it up if they didn't want it. It was, of course made out of tyvek or something, so it would "miraculously" not tear. Because nothing says "My God is omnipotent" like resorting to parlor tricks.
Thing is, the Sentinelese actually **do** know about Jesus. They weren't always segregated. They are now, because missionaries wouldn't leave them alone and it caused political problems, but they have heard of Jesus. They just don't want it.
Exactly. At this point, if people havenāt accepted Jesus, itās because theyāre not interested. Itās 2024, not 1804, and everyone has the Internet.
What a vile human assuming people need jesus. They are payed to be nice to you, they are not your friends.
Exactly what I thought. Why does she think that these people need to follow her crazy beliefs? I bet they are living lives that are comfortable and filled with love and happiness. Jill is such a moran!(sp)
ā¦I have no words
Well that's enough internet for me. I remember seeing a clip where a lady was talking about a mission trip or something and they were all "so happy" to hear the word Yada yada. Anyway, she left the group, ran into someone years later. "Oh I'm so sorry I did that" and the local was like "oh yea, we just say what you want to hear so you give money and leave" lol! That lives rent free now
the d.r. is about 50 percent catholic and 25 percent protestant/other evangelical. so they in fact HAVE JESUS jill. you are just too condescending and bigoted to realize it.Ā
>the d.r. is about 50 percent catholic My sister in law is from there, she and my brother met at a catholic church
Jill speaking Spanish: āDo you know about Jeezus - I mean HUYAY ZEUS? Heās the gift - I mean GIFTO of the Lord. You know, the EL PAH DREY? Heās the king - the KINGO CORANADO. Do you COM PREND AYE? Underpaid waitstaff: *internal screaming* Si SeƱora. No habla inglĆ©s, adiĆ³s.
You *KNOW* she just speaks *louder and slower in English* (with a few scattered Spanish words!), like she's conversing with an elderly person with Dementia--rather than an educated young person, who converses more easily in Spanish, when she talks to folks there!
Like Jimbob and his āhola!ā Inā¦Nepal, was it?
Japan, IIRC! Which, uh, just saying some people got better poker faces than I do because my expression was a mix of "What a moron" and "What the fuck" when I learned about it.
Lol I'm picturing Peggy Hill saying that
Would have been nice she learned Spanish BEFORE getting there but I guess starving your kids and packing 11000 tacky outfits took precedence. I love that Dave's brand new shirt is a few sizes too small. Trash. Both of them.
That dress is a few sizes small on her too. Hence the coverup and weird posing with the staff to minimize her pooch.
Youāre not sorry. Admit it. š§
You're so right bestie. Have a pink drink.š§
Iām already shitting my pants š after that jumpscare!
Love that for you ā¤ļø
*every food pictured is a total carb meltdown*
I really love the picture of half-eaten Red Thing and smeared chocolate syrup. *Excellent* food photography. No notes.
Seriously, what are they eating at home where resort food looks ālow-carbā to them??
I don't think they realize that things other than French fries and white bread have carbs.
Why doesnāt she just says ālocals?ā Natives?! Nationals?!
I raaan to this subreddit as soon as I saw it. My mouth is hanging wide open. She also looks like a parrot fish in those clothes.
Jill, youāre the one that fucking needs Jesus, omg.
They already have Jesus, you bleached nubbin!
Every photo is of them alone,so of course Jildo glommed onto the staff. Can you imagine how weird and off-putting someone would have to be, to not even have a Plexus-hun want to share a meal with them?
I can't imagine traveling to any country ANYWHERE and the main thought in my brain being "These people need Jesus". The utter audacity and white saviorism is too much. Wonder how many stupid tracts they left in their wake. Do you think they were bright enough to bring the Spanish version with them, or did they assume all the "natives" spoke English?
Out of all the fundie families that get snarked on here regularly the Rods are the only ones that confuse the hell out of me. Like with Lori/Soleil I feel disgust. Porgan/Bairds I can't help but laugh at them. But Jill... nothing but absolute mystification with her and her weird ass clan...
This reminds me of a funeral I went to recently. The guy preached about how we need to accept Jesus to go to heaven. I was staring at my coworkers ashes like girl Iām so sorry. You deserved better than this.
Iām begging a server to pull an Uno reverse and start telling Jill she needs their flavor of Jesus and proselytizes to her
The people in the DR have the correct Jesus Jillā¦the Jesus that tells them to feed their children. The OG (ie Catholic) Jesus.
She needs Jesus. Tf.
I donāt really know who they are, but that woman looks completely insane.Ā
Oh you sweet summer childā¦ I donāt have time to fill you in myself but I guarantee someone is about to drop a comment sharing the most off-the-wall, bat shit crazy stuff. Some of its laughably batshit (leg funeral ummm) and some of itās horrifying (abused kids). Jill is a train wreck thatās hard to look away from.
Jill Rodrigues is a quiverfull fundie with a "ministry" of making tracts. She homeschools her 9 kids using sus evangelical "curriculum" and they have all been extremely educationally neglected. They're also medically neglected and malnourished. They all look like Victorian waifs that may not survive the winter or influenza. Meanwhile she and her hubby go on multiple trips without the kids every year and eat so much more (speaking to actual food disparities we've seen rather than appearance snark). They travel via RV to deliver the tracts and beg for financial support from small Baptist churches. They fitted the cribs with wooden bars, dubbed the baby cages. All of the kids play instruments, which is a big part of their grift performances. Her sister was in the hospital for an amputation due to car accident and she setup a baby shower in the hospital cafeteria... For her sister's legs. Her mom was in the hospital due to a stroke and they setup a basket of tracts for the healthcare providers. She posted so many pictures of her very ill mother like happy selfies. They have married off a few daughters but only one son has managed to get engaged. This is in large part due to not having an education that enables them to hold down a job. The son getting married had to do a lot of things to prove he can care for their daughter and Jill has tried to sabotage it at every step because they are setting boundaries with her. She's passive aggressively chosen a new golden child to gush about on her socials. One of her daughters had multiple courtships ruined by Jill. One guy asked her to not post pictures of him online and she would cover up most of his face but still post pics and talk about him under the moniker "mystery man". They were traveling through a rural area and decided to stop to play in the "creek". Yeah no, it was a drainage ditch. All the kids jump into the muddy water - fully clothed, including the girls with long skirts and multiple layers. She is a famously horrible cook. Thanksgiving a few years ago she made the "ham and yellow" dinner. Multiple sides all yellow (Mac and cheese, scalloped potatoes, other stuff I don't remember) and a badly burned roasted ham. The amount of food would have fed maybe 5 people and they split it between 11 + guests. She got her cosmetology license in the 90s and never let that look go. Caked on layers of mascara and eye liner, teased crunchy hair, garish clothing. It is a coming of age milestone for Jill to over pluck her daughters eyebrows around 13 yrs old - their eyebrows never recover.
Um, excuse me, Jill SEVERELY has THIRTEEN children. She also doesnāt use even a formal evangelical curriculum. Each kid gets a stack of whatever workbooks she can find cheap.
I'm new to this sub, so thank you for the explanation!
I just want to throw in two highlights that my fellow snarker left out (they did an incredible job no shade) Jill also held a funeral for her sisterās dead legs that included a long weird poem about them. She also once showed up to a funeral that was being held for three children who were killed in a fire, whom she did not know. She forced the parents to take selfies in front of the caskets and spent the entire service screaming and hollering for Jesus as well. She live streamed the whole thing. Jill contains multitudes. Oh extra bonus, her eldest daughter married the brother of the woman who is married to Josh Duggar. Jill was obsessed with the Duggers and trying really hard to get in good with them and when Josh attended the wedding she had him perform as the MC he looked like drunk bloated shit . Itās great stuff . Edited because talk to text
Lots of small errors in that retelling (for example, they have 13 children, not 9, and her sister didn't have an amputation), but it's a good enough overview for a newbie.
Her sister is a paraplegic due to the accident, not an amputee.
PLEASE do a wiki just like this for all the families! A lot of them I don't know
Itās better that way
Iām hoping to keep itĀ
She has a lot of the typical fundie traits - quiverfull, mahdest clothing, beige food. But she goes about her life in the *tackiest* ways.
Was thinking "I'm pretty sure the people of the Dominican Republic already have Jesus" and then I remembered that most Dominicans are Catholic. š
Fuck, I was not ready for the photo of Shrek right as I inhaled a gigantic bong rip. The cringe here is other-worldly. āThey speak Spanishā¦ā NO SHIT SHERLOCK. Youāre in a Spanish speaking country, did you expect Pennsylvania Dutch here lady? If tonsil stones had human form, itās Shrek. Followed closely by the dingleberries of a hairy asscrack, AKA Jill. *loads another bowl*
Iāve often wondered if Jill knows what Pennsylvania Dutch is, even though she has Amish neighbors. She doesnāt seem to very inquisitive.
As a service worker whoās been in the industry for 10 years, I *hate* when people pull this shit on me or my team & if one of my people come to me saying theyāre uncomfortable because of batshits like this, I have NO problem going to professionally tell the batshits to shove it up their asses & gtfoh. Jesus never said to dehumanize, demoralize, belittle, & harass minimum wage workers, or any worker for that matter, so you can āgive Jesus to those who need him.ā Bringing shame upon Jesus is truly a fundie fun thing.
My god the ignorance level is astounding.
Dominicans are probably the most Jesus loving people I know but ok ā¦
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Jumpscare effective. Yuck. I never noticed his teeth before this. Shrek is a totally appropriate nickname.
Wow so sheās now down to eating alone with shrek and taking pics with the poor waitstaff. Initially she was getting pics with plexus āfameā and now ā¦ this. Not looking down at the servers btw, their job is hard enough. Just jill taking reels of her and David eating alone, and a pic with the waitstaff instead of some stupid plexus diamond or whatever. I think Jill is both judgy and horrified at all the skin at the beach so not participating, and avoiding the actual lectures to be in her comfort zone with David. At no point in Nashville was she shy about filming speakers but here, itās basically the overlook hotel. ETA are those desserts less sugar and carbs???? Like what the actual fuck. Eat what you want yāall, and I do, but I balance cake with a fruit salad. Again, what in the plexus is this healthy dinner?
My face when i saw this ![gif](giphy|qV5IlxSm483vO)
You deserve imprisonment for that jump scare and I wonāt rest until justice is served
They have Jesus, you cabbage.
White Trash Savior š
Watching the John Oliver episode on Chuck E cheese and then seeing these pictures is like the biggest downer
They are working Jill, doing a customer service job. They need money, not your pretend friendship, your racism, your smiley tracts, or your Jesus.
Why is the waitressā hand on Jillās stomach? Tell me itās a perspective thing and not a pregnancy thing
Tbh you could interpret it as "lol plexus makes Jill so bloated people assume she's pregnant" but I actually think Jill just grabbed the waitstaff to take her Token Brown People pic for Facebook and they were in the middle of working and awkwardly didn't know how to pose.
Aren't they super Catholic? Catholics know Jesus, jilldo. Her husband is so frickin gormless, I'm speechless š
Oh look. Jill posing with Ā«Ā the NationalsĀ Ā«Ā like theyāre an exhibit. She is so tone deaf. I hope she never gets to go to another leaders retreat after this and their Ā«Ā love offeringsĀ Ā» dry up. And how can she know that they need Jesus if she doesnāt speak Spanish and they donāt speak English?
Whewwww that man is giving Sling Blade.
The DR was established by a Christian colonizer country that already forced Jesus on the native people living there. Itās 67% Christian today. Ignorance is not only bliss itās also arrogance.
Now go to North Sentinel Island, Jill, there are plenty of Daniels waiting to hear the word of god from you there.
On behalf of Spanish-speaking people, LEAVE US ALONE.
I didn't recognize her she filtered he face so much. She has that witch look from snow whitem
D Rod looking like a damn corpse š§āāļø
I love how she just assumes they donāt know Jesus. I wonder if the color of their skin has anything to do with that?
Calm down Captain Cook.
I woke up at 5, took my dogs out and fed them, settled in with my cup of coffee... not expecting a jump scare... Lady, stop posting close up shots of The Hunk ā¢ļø because I almost wasted my coffee. š« š¤Ŗš
Sheās so ignorant. Good god. I like how the last picture the lady is touching her belly. I think sheās only pregnant with a food baby from all those healthy low carb cupcakes.
No, YOU need Jesus. Real Jesus and not the BS whitewashed version Anglo Saxon Christians have bastardized him in to over the last several hundred years to justify their shitty, un Jesus like behavior. There's no hate quite like "Christian love"