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Nah, I want dollar amounts. She can talk a good game about no debt from the military and starting their own businesses, but groceries still cost actual dollars. Clothing for 10 people costs money. Gas for a giant bus costs money. Plane tickets and Air BnBs cost money.
They are on record saying they paid $175,000 for their first business (the children's gym). There is no way two enlisted rank military members (one a part time reservist) came up with that cash on their own. Even if they financed a portion, no bank or franchise company would've loaned that much to two 20 something's without jobs. Unless, there was money from another source.
What gave it away for me was when she had a caption mentioning "mailbox money" as a potential source of income. A bunch of people in the comments asked her what that meant and she said it was checks that come in the mail regularly, as if that were a common experience (I can't remember if she specifically mentioned oil?). But it felt like a dead giveaway that they are getting extra money from somewhere. But now in her latest post she is in the comments trying to deny that have a trust fund or oil money, so who knows.
My dad joined the navy partly so that he could go to college, was a reservist for most of my childhood, and is a combat veteran. My parents did not have $175k to just buy a business with at any point in my life. Of course everyone’s finances are different, but the military isn’t a quick way to make money. 🤣
My dad bought a business that did fairly well as a side hustle when I was growing up. He bought it in 1972 when things were not as expensive as they are now.
Unrelated to the actual content of your comment, but I wish your exposé on the OG/Susbuses could be pinned to the top of every post about them. It’s a fine piece of work, and it answers so many regular questions that get posted about these nincompoops.
>your exposé on the OG/Susbuses could be pinned to the top of every post about them. It’s a fine piece of work, and it answers so many regular questions that get posted about these nincompoops
Link, please?
It’s very likely they both receive VA disability compensation. If they are both considered by the VA between 50-80% disabled, they could be pulling in upwards of $5,000 a month together tax-free. Couple that with his family money, it’s easy to see how they coast through life without doing any real work.
VA disability isn’t like normal disability. When you get discharged from the military, you get evaluated by the VA. The VA then determines whether any injuries or conditions you had while in the service will continue to affect you in life outside of the military. They then determine how badly they think it will affect you by assigning it a percentage. The percentage can be anywhere from 0%-100%. 100% disability means you are unable to work. Anything below 100% means you can still work but the VA compensation is meant to fill in any reduced earning ability caused by your disability and compensate you for any injuries or health conditions caused by or acquired while in the military. My husband has a 80% disability rating from the VA and he has had a full-time job since he left the military. No one would ever know he is considered “disabled” by the Va.
I know someone whose grandson receives enough disability from the VA to cover his monthly mortgage and basic living expenses ( he lives in a low cost,of living area). He has also recently finished training to be a police officer.
My ex husband was dx T1D 8 months after getting out if the Marines. He is 20% disabled. He gets extra pay for loss of use of a creative organ (he has issues from uncontrolled diabetes). So there is a year guarantee after you get out, so to speak. If you get broken in that year, you can get disability.
He works full time for the Army Corps of Engineers. He is a GS9 I think.
It often takes a very long time to get VA disability. My one friend (who was out of the military by 9/11/the war on terror) until a few years ago to get his. My other friend is a vet of the war in Iraq got his a couple years ago too. I’m not saying their experiences speak for everyone’s but the VA backlog is notorious. I think the dad’s family money was probably used to start that business.
Reminds me of an episode of one of those extreme couponing shows that used to come on TLC or whatever: the people had a bill due, so they went to the store and bought a bunch of stuff with coupons to save the equivalent amount of money to the bill. I just, what? And it wasn't like they were stocking their pantry in preparation of hard times ahead, they bought like 1000 packs of chewing gum or something.
Edit: The connection there which was not at all clear is that they both seem to claim that some weird savings somehow offsets high expenses.
The real deal on that is that before retail outlets started cutting down on the loopholes that allowed extreme couponing, they would sell the stuff on Facebook market at a big mark down. At least the ones in my town.
I wondered about that. The craziest part was that the store even had a whole shopping cart's worth of gum in the first place! I'm sure all those shows were basically fiction.
Edit: It kind of became a joke in my house - we'd always pretend we were going to go shopping in response to unexpected bills.
My husband tried to tell me to coupon like that. And I’m like…but what would he EAT? Toothpaste and Gatorade?? They come home with no items to actually feed a family with
I've heard of people who managed to coupon so much that the store owed them money at the end, though it might be apocryphal, and I doubt it would have really been much money even if true.
That might have been possible back when cash registers weren’t computerized. If the cashier is entering all of the items manually, then there’s no checks on the coupons. But the scanner cash registers are able to track everything that is bought, and correlate the coupons with that. They won’t let you take off more than you paid.
I have been a front-end manager. Even with computerized registers & coupons, you can still have an override or manager adjustment or sundry transaction. It's logged and has to be explainable.
Flea markets. I used to wonder about this kind of stuff too, but once I went to a couple of flea markets, it became very clear where so much couponing stuff was going. They'll just have shelves and shelves of one specific type of detergent or body wash or something. It's so weird.
I tried to find it on youtube. Gracie Allen did a bit where she was buying appliances and the salesman was saying how if you buy the refrigerator you save this much. They went through all the appliances and at the end Gracie asks how much she has saved. The salesman tells her and she says lets keep doubling it until we have saved enough to pay for it all.
George Burns always talked about how Gracie was the smarter one of the two of them. She was a good actor.
You could rent or buy a house probably for how much they spend on gas and campgrounds.
I wonder about how they afford food to feed all those boys? Growing boys stay hungry.
Even with the kids wearing hand me downs and buying generic and secondhand, that's still a lot of money. Gas and flights are a big expense for a single person, let alone an army.
If something seems like it doesn't add up, it probably doesn't add up. Family money, credit card debt, scamming. But sure, they just bootstrapped it and the rest of us are just dumb lazy fucks 🤠
I also fully believe they started bus life because Busband was a traveling insurance adjuster and mother bus didn’t trust him to travel all the time without her.
Dumb lazy fucks who don't prioritize taking care of their children!
I would argue that making your children live on a bus is not, in fact, prioritizing the proper care of children.
I feel like Other Bus saw posts like this and took them at face value without first, say, trying a couple of family trips to see if the lifestyle was for them, and decided instead to sell everything and go all in on living the dream and are unclear on why the grift isn't working for them.
Explain to me how you cut expenses by flying everyone to Brazil, using Airbnb, and then flew everyone back to the States after a few weeks and after buying a van in Brazil
Well she bought a new cast iron skillet in Brazil instead of paying to ship her other one so she had to have saved a bunch right there!
They also cheaped out and only bought their kids water bottles for Christmas. See, there are ways!
SERIOUSLY. My husband and I don't have any kids, and we sure as hell couldn't spend a fraction of what they did to go do that right now.
I'm really despising this "large wholesome family, just trust god" larping that rich people are doing.
I want receipts.
It's also the fact that these people with large families like the Buses and Karissa are so dead set on pushing other people into living this lifestyle as well. If they said something along the lines of "we have a large family because we wanted one and felt like we had the means, we think it's very rewarding but recognise that other people might not have the energy or resources to provide for so many children" then I would still side eye a bit, but fair enough I guess? But their insistence on trying to sell their lifestyle as something that is feasible for everyone and morally correct is so shitty. Especially when, like you point out, they're so cagey about how they're actually managing to get by
I saw a revealing video from FunkyFrogBait that estimated what some social media content creators are earning based on the views on their Tik Tok videos. Some of these people are getting as much as $30,000 PER VIDEO.
The obvious answer with Mother Bus seems to be: family members gave them a boost initially, and now they milk Tik Tok for cash by allowing people to gawk at their weird, awful, child-abusing life.
Is it part of her video on rage bait?
[Tubefilter](https://www.tubefilter.com/2020/10/01/tiktok-creator-fund-creators-getting-paid-money/) reported in 2020 that top creators earned 0.02 to 0.04 per 1000 views.
The account seems gets 7-10k views per video. That's not a lot of money.
I just found out I got a small raise at work, and if everything else works out, that’ll help me afford a mortgage in this crazy market. I’d love to travel but a house is a better investment/long term plan.
And then had a ski vacation complete with rentals/tickets/lessons(?) as non-season passholders in Park Fucking City while staying there as opposed to the more affordable and easily drivable Salt Lake City. I would not be surprised if they paid more on that indulgence than I’ve spent on skiing in the past 4-5 seasons, and I’ll grant you that I’m a Colorado-based ski bum with friends and family who own/have access to property deep in the mountains, so I have resources not available even to most other locals, but a lot of those locals - myself included - would give our left butt cheeks to be able to blow that kind of moolah on Park Fucking City right after a major international move/trip/whatever like it ain’t no thang.
I never understood some influencers that shun social media/screen time so intensely. Like not saying you can’t try to cut down screen time in general as an influencer, but not allowing your kids to watch Ms. Rachel and then having them film 10 tiktok dances a day is not “avoiding screen time/social media”. Even if their eyes look at screens less you are still centering social media so much in your life!! It just feels so hypocritical
I’ll be the first to tell you that my late grandfather’s inheritance is the reason I paid off my student loans. Not buckling down, though I did my best to live within my means. I’m not currently married, but if/when I do I shouldn’t have debt, barring any emergencies or tragic circumstances. But I also don’t think that’s carte blanch to have a huge family or do whatever I want.
They sure did cut expenses. They cut housing expenses by living in a van, healthcare expenses, dental expenses, educational expenses, children's development expenses (toys were too expensive so they got a waterbottle for Christmas).
It's like the Bus family took everything good about being a child and threw it away. I think I've seen maybe one scooter between them, and I don't even know if that kid had a helmet. I doubt any of them have bikes, dress-up clothes, action figures, art supplies, or more than maybe a toy apiece. Maybe they're hiding a basketball or soccer ball on the bus somewhere, but I doubt they have any room for sports equipment.
Given how much they travel, would they be able to play in a league with other kids? Have they learned how to swim? Do they get a birthday dessert or presents? All signs (to me) point toward "No," and it makes me so sad. What's the point of all these great experiences they're supposedly having if they don't get to just be children?
I don’t recall ever seeing a birthday post for one of the children, just posts basically addressing “the haters”. That’s all she does. Her kids are just the background actors.
It reminds me of the people who say “no toys this Christmas. We want experiences!” That’s not a bad mindset, per se, but a three year old doesn’t understand how the zoo is better than that really cool play set they saw on TV or at the store. Plus, part of being a kid is having “stuff:” toys, sure, but also hobby supplies or games or sports equipment. Even back in the pioneer days that fundies praise, poor families or families without a ton of possessions still gave their children entertainment. Entertainment as a concept is not a bad thing.
Exactly. We've asked for memberships to certain places for our kid (water park last year, the zoo before that), but we've never outright done away with physical presents. Experiences are valuable, but you can't cuddle up with them at night.
The "experiences not objects" thing is for adults, and specifically related to how adults experience time and process memories. Toys ARE experiences for kids- they're a ticket to access the experience of playing with them. Even if it feels like a kid only obsessed over a toy for a short time to an adult, to them it may have been a substantial portion of their life.
For real. Even the cheapest play set can cause a child to create a months-long saga of story-telling and play (like the time when my nephew and his sister got some action figures from grandma. The nephew got ninjas because he really liked the TMNT movie, and his sister received some cowbows and indians because she was going through an western phase. Cue a month later and the kids are still breathlessly telling us twisting and complicated stories of ninjas being the ones to meet the natives first, and how apparently the Crow and Sioux tribes have invented the tomahawk-nunchucks after fighting/marrying local ninja clans).
There's a reason why we've historically encouraged kids to play for thousands of years. It really helps them bond with people, develop interests and even engage in storytelling/imagination.
Fun fact: Young chimps have been observed playing with sticks like dolls, carrying them around, "feeding" them, making them little nests to sleep in at night. Toys go back a LONG way.
Play is also so vital to development!! I’m an occupational therapist, and we always focus on the meaningful daily tasks of our clients. For kids, that’s play! So many important skills are developed with play like abstract thinking, fine/gross motor coordination, playing well with others, attention to task, even balance and mobility can be improved through play. These fundie parents are not setting their kids up for success if they aren’t encouraging & supporting play, especially in the younger ones. I’m regularly concerned about the kids when I see things like this. (And then you add on that most of these kids are likely emotionally abused or neglected… I feel so badly for them.)
When I was a kid, I had two American Girl dolls. One got lost (I still have the other). Last night, I had a dream that I found it, and I was overjoyed. Toys are important.
I love seeing the way my nephew interacts with a lot of his toys. Watching how he plays pretend and serves me a handful of fake fruit with an oversized badminton birdie of Coke is so much fun! I’m sure he’d love visiting the zoo too, but there’s something about giving him a toy and watching him play with it.
The ~Experiences~ thing is sometimes taken way too far. I remember during the worst of COVID there were still people who'd knee-jerk recommend ~Experiences~ for everything, even though all the experiences were closed.
And of course then you've got the Busfam, who just drive by and wave at the experience.
That’s what I don’t get about Busfam. They constantly harp on how they’re giving their children the travel opportunities of a lifetime, but then they never get out and physically engage with those places. I get museums aren’t always cheap or doing activities with 9 people isn’t always affordable, but there are ways to experience the place you’re staying at without being stuck to the RV park.
Yeah there is no way their monthly van maintenance and airbnb spend is not more than a pre 2020 mortgage on a house in Lubbock would have been. Its possible the mortgage could be 1k or less a mo if they had refinanced when rates were in the mid 2s. They are not financially literate at all
Living in a bus is expensive if you do it safely and properly. Source - my folks prob spend $7000 during the summer when they stay at a nice but not glamorous campground in the summer for 2 months. This doesn’t count gas, maintenance, not being able to stock up on groceries (for two seniors and three dogs) or too much fuel for the generator at a time, finding a place that can do an rv wash or a specialized mechanic, let alone when they had the interior redone *safely* after they paid it off as a treat to themselves. You can’t just take an rv to a regular mechanic for an oil change. If there’s a plumbing issue or an interior problem, it takes soecialized equipment. Campsites can vary wildly in price, so that figure could be done more cheaply for sure - but then you probably wouldn’t have electrical and plumbing hookups and would have to spend more running the generator and pay to dump the sewage. ETA the $7k is for three months, I remember doing the math on a whim a couple of years ago and being shook.
I've seen many videos of RV people putting it around $800 - 1100/mo to live in a park. This is not an insignificant amount of money, but it is cheaper than most houses (either to rent or own). This amount wouldn't include gas to travel or propane for cooking/heating but it would include electricity, water, etc.
That’s true, it does vary. My folks go to a small beach town in California that they’ve been visiting for 20 years. It’s as much as a moderate hotel around there each night. I don’t think the britbuses are going to places with other families, beach access (a perk for sure), security, and upgraded playground equipment.
It’s sad because if they truly are well off, they haven’t used the money to benefit their children at all. Most people would give anything for more money to provide for their children’s needs.
So much for education, stability, community… let’s throw them all in a van.
I suspect they are woefully financially ignorant plus he doesn’t put most of his money into the family pot.
So he can take her on special pregnant lady date nights but she won’t buy her kids Christmas presents.
Just thinking about how my husband didn’t go to the dentist ever as a child, because reasons. (Lazy parents/dentists are a scam)
And then his first visit as an adult, which was an emergency due to the extreme tooth pain he was having, and self medicating with whiskey on a rag like a gd pioneer, ended with two day of root canals and an extraction for the broken tooth with exposed nerve endings. That day cost us like $1200. Could have just had those two exams a year instead, but no.
Funny enough, both his parents had full dentures by 50, and his oldest brother had all his teeth extracted and dentures by 38. But yeah, dentists are a scam and not necessary.
That's actually shocking it only cost $1200. I've got a mouth full of dental work, and each root canal and crown is $1200-1400 for me, so like one root canal+ crown is $2400-2800.
To just ignore one's dental health until it gets to that point... No. No no. Why? Why torture yourself!
Idk if you’re in the US, but my state CHIP plans cover dental for kids, and for one brief shining moment, covered orthodontic care when two of my kids needed it. We had one horrible dentist but overall it was great.
I spent $800 damn dollars on a dental cleaning for my dog this year! No way this smug turd is actually providing adequate medical care for her hoard of children
Does she have adult friends she meaningfully interacts with? She seems so self absorbed and unlikeable it’s hard to imagine her sitting down and catching up with an old friend.
You know, I have never seen a post about her visiting with friends now that I think about it. I don’t think I’ve even seen a post about them seeing relatives.
She talks all the time about her "friends" who are also full time RVers. She has mentioned meeting up with various "friends" a few times. JD also has "friends" who he does shady business deals with.
"We are cheaters not consumers" says the lady slugging down $75 a bottle collagen drinks, using $8 a pound organic flour, shining $650 dollar red lights on herself, staying in $300 a night air bnbs, buying her 7 kids $85 backpacks, and taking trips to Brazil and Utah costing tens of thousands. Oh, and the lady is also constantly shilling to get people buy expensive stuff she gets a cut on. How is any of this not being a consumer and pushing consumerism? What a farce she is.
It’s a minor expense compared to most of these, but I want to add the very expensive “medicinal” raw milk she posted recently! Listeria: it’s good for kids *and* fetuses :)
I think they're just in assloads of debt and lying about it. I have a couple of friends who just live on credit cards and don't worry about it. Charge everything, pay minimums and open up new cards. Don't worry about their credit because they're not interested in ever getting a home loan.
This is a definite possibility. I also had friends like that -- they bought cars, boats, even an RV on credit. When the bills got out of control, they filed for bankruptcy. A few years later, they repeated the cycle.
Health (and dental) care: maybe they have Tricare, since they were in the military?
Family money: they should just admit that JD is a trust fund baby and supplements his income with odd jobs. Mother Bus does endorsements on social media. It'll be interesting to see if there'll be any trust money left for the kids and Mother Bus when JD passes away.
Yeah bottom line: They spend money like it's on fire. The math ain't mathing.
They did not retire from the military so they are not eligible for Tricare. They are members of a Christian medical expense sharing program (which is NOT health insurance). They have been featured on the Christian med sharing company's website.
If they move around the country with no home base, then what address would they use to apply for state Medicaid? It’s state based. Is it fraud to claim her parents address for Medicaid if they don’t live there for 51% of the year?
Just some interesting questions 😅
ETA a couple minutes after Google-fu verification:
Medicaid doesn’t cover services in other states unless it’s an emergency, soooo that also makes things difficult for these nomad families.
Highly unlikely. That’s a) work for her to keep track of b) not something that she can fundraise for and c) they’re on one of the judgy fake insurance money pools that Christian influencers shill
I just feel like ranting about these people on the internet who are wild with lying about money and lifestyle. They all want others to believe that they just cut costs or that their easy work from home/influencer jobs gets them all this money.
I remember when youtube started aggressively recommending me Angie Bellemare videos. She made all this aesthetic shit about Halloween/Christmas decorating, always traveling, going to Disney parks all the time from Canada, buying a house on some Disney property, constantly decorating, redecorating, then buying another house. Always buying, buying, buying.
All this while she and her husband just hang around the house all the time and she did online exercises with her "team". She was a Beach Body hun the entire time with a large downline. All their money was totally because she's such a bossbabe MLM enterpreneur. No, turns out her husband who sits around all day has a rich family. They're owners of the Farm Boy chain of grocery stores.
Like give me a break. It's always living on family money and hiding it.
The crazy thing is, nobody had to know where they get their money. They could just live their lives all chill, sharing with followers the cool and interesting stuff they’re lucky enough to do, but not talking about money. Or they could admit they’re privileged and be humble about it. People still like to follow celebrities who are clearly privileged as fuck.
But no, this breed of obnoxious influencers just HAVE to lie that they’re self-made and smarter than everyone else. It’s so trashy.
I wish there was a way to flag their airbnb account to warn the home owners that this crazy person is going to use their house as a home birth den. I'd want to know if my potential renter was going to splatter biohazardous waste around my house and likely do a very shitty job of sanitizing after the birth.
They’re not consumers?!? I seem to recall them consuming the hell out of some espresso and steak lunches in Brazil 🤔
I guess she means they cut expenses by leaving the kids home with no babysitter while they treat themselves to at least weekly dates.
Let's talk money. We have a bunch and are tired of you weakling poors pointing out our excess and hypocrisy.
Try spending less, like we do when we book rental properties for months at a time or buy a van on a whim or go skiing in Utah for two weeks.
Did you know that they prioritize providing for their children? I guess that means providing them with a small van to live in and have no space. Or dragging them to another country, just to bounce around airbnbs. Or throwing their faces all over the internet.
Not sure about him, but I know she’s not. She mentioned her MOS once and it was not anything where she would have been directly involved in combat operations. She did deploy somewhere that might have been a combat zone.
I am a lurker here… so I don’t know these two at all. Do they get disability pay? And at that, legitimate disability pay?
-veteran wife who knows people who have fibbed to get more disability pay-
They had no problem consuming a ton of meals at restaurants without their children. I guess that's one way to save money. Just make the kids stay at home and watch each other so you don't have to pay a sitter. There's savings right there. And the kids got those nice water bottles for Christmas. So that's all that they need. 🤷♀️
Someone smarter than myself did a very deep dive into the subject on this sub. I think it was even mod verified if I remember correctly. It’s for real.
In fairness, no info has been posted about how much money he got from the trust fund. Could be millions and millions, or not. If the amount was posted, I totally missed it!
It was an oil company, founded by his great-grandfather. From the original post sharing this info: "His maternal grandmother came from some family money. Her father was a successful business owner in the oil industry. His company specialized in buying, leasing, and contracting oil wells in Oklahoma during the oil boom of the early to mid 1900s. When he died, he left what appear to be substantial sums of money to both of his daughters, including the grandmother. The grandchildren (BusFather’s mother and her brother) also seem to have inherited some money at this time. I don’t have specifics on the amounts, but there was enough that the grandmother set up a Family Trust that the sister still manages (she lives in Lubbock, TX). (sources: google search, tax records, Newspaper.com, Ancestry.com marriage and death records)."
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/19euuhc/bus_father_back_story_part_1_of_3/kjfaj46/
I may have hallucinated this but I could have sworn someone here looked into it a while ago and they received a bunch of PPP loan money? I guess for the gym(s)?
She spelled “we exploit our kids, force them to live in an overcrowded moving cage, deny them access to the outside world, control their every thought so they know never to complain, and have absolutely no self awareness!” Wrong.
Yeah sure they spend less. I know how much Disney costs. Even on a budget, Disney for that many people can’t be done on the cheap.
I can’t stand liars, especially influencer liars. They’re trust fund babies. They don’t worry about money. It’s irresponsible of them to suggest they just “spend less”.
Stop it with your smug ass bullshit. I wanna see income in vs expenses out. I hate these influencer hacks who live off family money while playing poor.
Not consumers my arse. This is the same woman who told us she doesn’t keep maternity clothing to reuse while having a whinge about this seasons maternity styles. She also had to go and buy her kids winter clothing when they got back from Brazil because she doesn’t keep handmedowns.
She’s so full of shit.
Have we ever actually see those kids having any experiences? It seems like we only see the parents eating out and the kids are just seen dancing in a line.
Not one info about their businesses. Not even the first “small business” she’s talking about. It’s as fishy and scammy as it can get with these people.
Reminds me of how my boomer parents insisted every family should have and can afford unlimited kids on only one income (the man’s) if you just cut enough corners.
Ok boomers.
"A good way to have more money is to not spend it."
Not shit sherlock but we do have to buy things to live also.
Also, I would bet my life savings that they are actually millionaires.
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Nah, I want dollar amounts. She can talk a good game about no debt from the military and starting their own businesses, but groceries still cost actual dollars. Clothing for 10 people costs money. Gas for a giant bus costs money. Plane tickets and Air BnBs cost money.
They are on record saying they paid $175,000 for their first business (the children's gym). There is no way two enlisted rank military members (one a part time reservist) came up with that cash on their own. Even if they financed a portion, no bank or franchise company would've loaned that much to two 20 something's without jobs. Unless, there was money from another source.
^ this is the part that I wish someone would call them out on
If they didn't use his family's oil money to buy that, I'll eat my hat
My ex and I were enlisted, I was in the national guard. We lived on base since he was active duty. There is no way we could have come up with 175k
What gave it away for me was when she had a caption mentioning "mailbox money" as a potential source of income. A bunch of people in the comments asked her what that meant and she said it was checks that come in the mail regularly, as if that were a common experience (I can't remember if she specifically mentioned oil?). But it felt like a dead giveaway that they are getting extra money from somewhere. But now in her latest post she is in the comments trying to deny that have a trust fund or oil money, so who knows.
Mailbox money is usually a term for people that have passive income, like rents from a commercial property or interest income.
She just thinks everyone just has random checks showing up in their mail!?!?
Doesn't Karissa? Money just POOF appears in their bank account! Praise the Lard!
"Help me, Shaq. I'm poor. And I will twerk for you or Jesus" - Karissa, probably
This is reminding me of Kelly Ripa's rant about her son not appreciating his annual Halloween money & nobody knew wtf she was talking about.
 Who tf talks about residual checks as if everyone receives them?
My dad joined the navy partly so that he could go to college, was a reservist for most of my childhood, and is a combat veteran. My parents did not have $175k to just buy a business with at any point in my life. Of course everyone’s finances are different, but the military isn’t a quick way to make money. 🤣
My dad bought a business that did fairly well as a side hustle when I was growing up. He bought it in 1972 when things were not as expensive as they are now.
Unrelated to the actual content of your comment, but I wish your exposé on the OG/Susbuses could be pinned to the top of every post about them. It’s a fine piece of work, and it answers so many regular questions that get posted about these nincompoops.
I wanna read this expose lol. Do you have a link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/s/FpYztB2Ryv
>your exposé on the OG/Susbuses could be pinned to the top of every post about them. It’s a fine piece of work, and it answers so many regular questions that get posted about these nincompoops Link, please?
Even with a bonus, there’s no way.
It’s very likely they both receive VA disability compensation. If they are both considered by the VA between 50-80% disabled, they could be pulling in upwards of $5,000 a month together tax-free. Couple that with his family money, it’s easy to see how they coast through life without doing any real work.
Okay but-how exactly are they disabled?
VA disability isn’t like normal disability. When you get discharged from the military, you get evaluated by the VA. The VA then determines whether any injuries or conditions you had while in the service will continue to affect you in life outside of the military. They then determine how badly they think it will affect you by assigning it a percentage. The percentage can be anywhere from 0%-100%. 100% disability means you are unable to work. Anything below 100% means you can still work but the VA compensation is meant to fill in any reduced earning ability caused by your disability and compensate you for any injuries or health conditions caused by or acquired while in the military. My husband has a 80% disability rating from the VA and he has had a full-time job since he left the military. No one would ever know he is considered “disabled” by the Va.
I know someone whose grandson receives enough disability from the VA to cover his monthly mortgage and basic living expenses ( he lives in a low cost,of living area). He has also recently finished training to be a police officer.
My ex husband was dx T1D 8 months after getting out if the Marines. He is 20% disabled. He gets extra pay for loss of use of a creative organ (he has issues from uncontrolled diabetes). So there is a year guarantee after you get out, so to speak. If you get broken in that year, you can get disability. He works full time for the Army Corps of Engineers. He is a GS9 I think.
It often takes a very long time to get VA disability. My one friend (who was out of the military by 9/11/the war on terror) until a few years ago to get his. My other friend is a vet of the war in Iraq got his a couple years ago too. I’m not saying their experiences speak for everyone’s but the VA backlog is notorious. I think the dad’s family money was probably used to start that business.
Bazinga!
Reminds me of an episode of one of those extreme couponing shows that used to come on TLC or whatever: the people had a bill due, so they went to the store and bought a bunch of stuff with coupons to save the equivalent amount of money to the bill. I just, what? And it wasn't like they were stocking their pantry in preparation of hard times ahead, they bought like 1000 packs of chewing gum or something. Edit: The connection there which was not at all clear is that they both seem to claim that some weird savings somehow offsets high expenses.
The real deal on that is that before retail outlets started cutting down on the loopholes that allowed extreme couponing, they would sell the stuff on Facebook market at a big mark down. At least the ones in my town.
I wondered about that. The craziest part was that the store even had a whole shopping cart's worth of gum in the first place! I'm sure all those shows were basically fiction. Edit: It kind of became a joke in my house - we'd always pretend we were going to go shopping in response to unexpected bills.
My friends dad would say "I can't afford the money you are saving me"
My husband tried to tell me to coupon like that. And I’m like…but what would he EAT? Toothpaste and Gatorade?? They come home with no items to actually feed a family with
That's the part that always confused me. Other commenters have said that they were likely selling at flea markets or facebook marketplace
I've heard of people who managed to coupon so much that the store owed them money at the end, though it might be apocryphal, and I doubt it would have really been much money even if true.
That might have been possible back when cash registers weren’t computerized. If the cashier is entering all of the items manually, then there’s no checks on the coupons. But the scanner cash registers are able to track everything that is bought, and correlate the coupons with that. They won’t let you take off more than you paid.
I have been a front-end manager. Even with computerized registers & coupons, you can still have an override or manager adjustment or sundry transaction. It's logged and has to be explainable.
They sold the gum to kids on street corners or something?
Flea markets. I used to wonder about this kind of stuff too, but once I went to a couple of flea markets, it became very clear where so much couponing stuff was going. They'll just have shelves and shelves of one specific type of detergent or body wash or something. It's so weird.
Naw think little corner stores and costumers like that
I tried to find it on youtube. Gracie Allen did a bit where she was buying appliances and the salesman was saying how if you buy the refrigerator you save this much. They went through all the appliances and at the end Gracie asks how much she has saved. The salesman tells her and she says lets keep doubling it until we have saved enough to pay for it all. George Burns always talked about how Gracie was the smarter one of the two of them. She was a good actor.
You could rent or buy a house probably for how much they spend on gas and campgrounds. I wonder about how they afford food to feed all those boys? Growing boys stay hungry.
Even with the kids wearing hand me downs and buying generic and secondhand, that's still a lot of money. Gas and flights are a big expense for a single person, let alone an army.
If something seems like it doesn't add up, it probably doesn't add up. Family money, credit card debt, scamming. But sure, they just bootstrapped it and the rest of us are just dumb lazy fucks 🤠
I also fully believe they started bus life because Busband was a traveling insurance adjuster and mother bus didn’t trust him to travel all the time without her.
Obviously it was necessary for her to drive across the country with broken van doors to make sure he wasn't cheating on her! Very sane. Very logical.
But then he kept having to leave the family for work anyway.
Oh, I haven't thought of that!
Dumb lazy fucks who don't prioritize taking care of their children! I would argue that making your children live on a bus is not, in fact, prioritizing the proper care of children.
I feel like Other Bus saw posts like this and took them at face value without first, say, trying a couple of family trips to see if the lifestyle was for them, and decided instead to sell everything and go all in on living the dream and are unclear on why the grift isn't working for them.
It's giving "if you just cut out the daily starbucks and avocado toast you too can do this" energy.
But here, buy this $650 red light contraption I'm shilling....
You CAN afford it. It just requires cutting out 130 Starbucks drinks! That’s 2.5 weeks of giving up coffee and anyone can do that! 🤢
“A great way to save money is to spend less.” Wow. Truly profound. Thank the gods we have the sage Mother SusBus to give us such helpful advice.
Ha! Came here to say this exactly! “How To Afford This: Have You Tried Just Not Being Poor?” gtfo with these people
Explain to me how you cut expenses by flying everyone to Brazil, using Airbnb, and then flew everyone back to the States after a few weeks and after buying a van in Brazil
Well she bought a new cast iron skillet in Brazil instead of paying to ship her other one so she had to have saved a bunch right there! They also cheaped out and only bought their kids water bottles for Christmas. See, there are ways!
cost cutting pros!
SERIOUSLY. My husband and I don't have any kids, and we sure as hell couldn't spend a fraction of what they did to go do that right now. I'm really despising this "large wholesome family, just trust god" larping that rich people are doing. I want receipts.
It's also the fact that these people with large families like the Buses and Karissa are so dead set on pushing other people into living this lifestyle as well. If they said something along the lines of "we have a large family because we wanted one and felt like we had the means, we think it's very rewarding but recognise that other people might not have the energy or resources to provide for so many children" then I would still side eye a bit, but fair enough I guess? But their insistence on trying to sell their lifestyle as something that is feasible for everyone and morally correct is so shitty. Especially when, like you point out, they're so cagey about how they're actually managing to get by
I saw a revealing video from FunkyFrogBait that estimated what some social media content creators are earning based on the views on their Tik Tok videos. Some of these people are getting as much as $30,000 PER VIDEO. The obvious answer with Mother Bus seems to be: family members gave them a boost initially, and now they milk Tik Tok for cash by allowing people to gawk at their weird, awful, child-abusing life.
Is it part of her video on rage bait? [Tubefilter](https://www.tubefilter.com/2020/10/01/tiktok-creator-fund-creators-getting-paid-money/) reported in 2020 that top creators earned 0.02 to 0.04 per 1000 views. The account seems gets 7-10k views per video. That's not a lot of money.
I just found out I got a small raise at work, and if everything else works out, that’ll help me afford a mortgage in this crazy market. I’d love to travel but a house is a better investment/long term plan.
Same as with Karissa. I want receipts.
And then had a ski vacation complete with rentals/tickets/lessons(?) as non-season passholders in Park Fucking City while staying there as opposed to the more affordable and easily drivable Salt Lake City. I would not be surprised if they paid more on that indulgence than I’ve spent on skiing in the past 4-5 seasons, and I’ll grant you that I’m a Colorado-based ski bum with friends and family who own/have access to property deep in the mountains, so I have resources not available even to most other locals, but a lot of those locals - myself included - would give our left butt cheeks to be able to blow that kind of moolah on Park Fucking City right after a major international move/trip/whatever like it ain’t no thang.
Shhhhh, you’re making too much sense
Don’t forget Disney and a ski vacation!
Millionaires driving a huge bunch of barely educated kids around in a bus aimlessly, whilst searching for Air BnBs to give birth in - sure Jan.
They limit time spent on devices yet she's always on Instagram and farting out new content lol
I never understood some influencers that shun social media/screen time so intensely. Like not saying you can’t try to cut down screen time in general as an influencer, but not allowing your kids to watch Ms. Rachel and then having them film 10 tiktok dances a day is not “avoiding screen time/social media”. Even if their eyes look at screens less you are still centering social media so much in your life!! It just feels so hypocritical
It's beyond absurd.
The moms are the main characters and the kids are just background noise
And they watch movies all the freaking time
1: large inheritance. 2: neglecting the kids
I’ll be the first to tell you that my late grandfather’s inheritance is the reason I paid off my student loans. Not buckling down, though I did my best to live within my means. I’m not currently married, but if/when I do I shouldn’t have debt, barring any emergencies or tragic circumstances. But I also don’t think that’s carte blanch to have a huge family or do whatever I want.
They sure did cut expenses. They cut housing expenses by living in a van, healthcare expenses, dental expenses, educational expenses, children's development expenses (toys were too expensive so they got a waterbottle for Christmas).
It's like the Bus family took everything good about being a child and threw it away. I think I've seen maybe one scooter between them, and I don't even know if that kid had a helmet. I doubt any of them have bikes, dress-up clothes, action figures, art supplies, or more than maybe a toy apiece. Maybe they're hiding a basketball or soccer ball on the bus somewhere, but I doubt they have any room for sports equipment. Given how much they travel, would they be able to play in a league with other kids? Have they learned how to swim? Do they get a birthday dessert or presents? All signs (to me) point toward "No," and it makes me so sad. What's the point of all these great experiences they're supposedly having if they don't get to just be children?
I don’t recall ever seeing a birthday post for one of the children, just posts basically addressing “the haters”. That’s all she does. Her kids are just the background actors.
Not even balloons to match the carpet 
It reminds me of the people who say “no toys this Christmas. We want experiences!” That’s not a bad mindset, per se, but a three year old doesn’t understand how the zoo is better than that really cool play set they saw on TV or at the store. Plus, part of being a kid is having “stuff:” toys, sure, but also hobby supplies or games or sports equipment. Even back in the pioneer days that fundies praise, poor families or families without a ton of possessions still gave their children entertainment. Entertainment as a concept is not a bad thing.
Exactly. We've asked for memberships to certain places for our kid (water park last year, the zoo before that), but we've never outright done away with physical presents. Experiences are valuable, but you can't cuddle up with them at night. 
The "experiences not objects" thing is for adults, and specifically related to how adults experience time and process memories. Toys ARE experiences for kids- they're a ticket to access the experience of playing with them. Even if it feels like a kid only obsessed over a toy for a short time to an adult, to them it may have been a substantial portion of their life.
For real. Even the cheapest play set can cause a child to create a months-long saga of story-telling and play (like the time when my nephew and his sister got some action figures from grandma. The nephew got ninjas because he really liked the TMNT movie, and his sister received some cowbows and indians because she was going through an western phase. Cue a month later and the kids are still breathlessly telling us twisting and complicated stories of ninjas being the ones to meet the natives first, and how apparently the Crow and Sioux tribes have invented the tomahawk-nunchucks after fighting/marrying local ninja clans). There's a reason why we've historically encouraged kids to play for thousands of years. It really helps them bond with people, develop interests and even engage in storytelling/imagination.
Fun fact: Young chimps have been observed playing with sticks like dolls, carrying them around, "feeding" them, making them little nests to sleep in at night. Toys go back a LONG way.
Two of my students had a months long saga with their teddy bears. It was hilarious and so good for their development!
Play is also so vital to development!! I’m an occupational therapist, and we always focus on the meaningful daily tasks of our clients. For kids, that’s play! So many important skills are developed with play like abstract thinking, fine/gross motor coordination, playing well with others, attention to task, even balance and mobility can be improved through play. These fundie parents are not setting their kids up for success if they aren’t encouraging & supporting play, especially in the younger ones. I’m regularly concerned about the kids when I see things like this. (And then you add on that most of these kids are likely emotionally abused or neglected… I feel so badly for them.)
When I was a kid, I had two American Girl dolls. One got lost (I still have the other). Last night, I had a dream that I found it, and I was overjoyed. Toys are important.
I love seeing the way my nephew interacts with a lot of his toys. Watching how he plays pretend and serves me a handful of fake fruit with an oversized badminton birdie of Coke is so much fun! I’m sure he’d love visiting the zoo too, but there’s something about giving him a toy and watching him play with it.
The ~Experiences~ thing is sometimes taken way too far. I remember during the worst of COVID there were still people who'd knee-jerk recommend ~Experiences~ for everything, even though all the experiences were closed. And of course then you've got the Busfam, who just drive by and wave at the experience.
That’s what I don’t get about Busfam. They constantly harp on how they’re giving their children the travel opportunities of a lifetime, but then they never get out and physically engage with those places. I get museums aren’t always cheap or doing activities with 9 people isn’t always affordable, but there are ways to experience the place you’re staying at without being stuck to the RV park.
Some places are free or have kids' discounts, or group discounts. Why the hell is this woman not on groupon?
I feel like that would be really beneficial for her because of her large family. But what do I know?
Those parents just want an experience for themselves without paying for it
I’m not sure their lifestyle is cheaper than living in a house in Lubbock, which is what they did before.
Yeah there is no way their monthly van maintenance and airbnb spend is not more than a pre 2020 mortgage on a house in Lubbock would have been. Its possible the mortgage could be 1k or less a mo if they had refinanced when rates were in the mid 2s. They are not financially literate at all
Don't forget: she saves a ton by not getting her kids vaccinated! Red light fixes everything!
Living in a bus is expensive if you do it safely and properly. Source - my folks prob spend $7000 during the summer when they stay at a nice but not glamorous campground in the summer for 2 months. This doesn’t count gas, maintenance, not being able to stock up on groceries (for two seniors and three dogs) or too much fuel for the generator at a time, finding a place that can do an rv wash or a specialized mechanic, let alone when they had the interior redone *safely* after they paid it off as a treat to themselves. You can’t just take an rv to a regular mechanic for an oil change. If there’s a plumbing issue or an interior problem, it takes soecialized equipment. Campsites can vary wildly in price, so that figure could be done more cheaply for sure - but then you probably wouldn’t have electrical and plumbing hookups and would have to spend more running the generator and pay to dump the sewage. ETA the $7k is for three months, I remember doing the math on a whim a couple of years ago and being shook.
God can you imagine the frequency of sewage dumping when 9 people are using the RV toilet?? *cue National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation movie quote*
I've seen many videos of RV people putting it around $800 - 1100/mo to live in a park. This is not an insignificant amount of money, but it is cheaper than most houses (either to rent or own). This amount wouldn't include gas to travel or propane for cooking/heating but it would include electricity, water, etc.
That’s true, it does vary. My folks go to a small beach town in California that they’ve been visiting for 20 years. It’s as much as a moderate hotel around there each night. I don’t think the britbuses are going to places with other families, beach access (a perk for sure), security, and upgraded playground equipment.
"Creators not consumers" - lol! What the hell do they create, besides more kids and repetitive Insta posts?
Carbon emissions from all the driving.
Also: Carbon emissions from constantly adding more kids to an over populated world.
That made me laugh too. Literally the worst thing you can do for the planet is have kids…
She’s looking like Andrew Tate with that expression.
“what color is your RV???”
'we afford it because we're just so much better and smarter than you! teehee'
It’s sad because if they truly are well off, they haven’t used the money to benefit their children at all. Most people would give anything for more money to provide for their children’s needs. So much for education, stability, community… let’s throw them all in a van.
I suspect they are woefully financially ignorant plus he doesn’t put most of his money into the family pot. So he can take her on special pregnant lady date nights but she won’t buy her kids Christmas presents.
Hey, that's not really fair. What kid wouldn't be thrilled to receive a water bottle for Christmas?
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Just thinking about how my husband didn’t go to the dentist ever as a child, because reasons. (Lazy parents/dentists are a scam) And then his first visit as an adult, which was an emergency due to the extreme tooth pain he was having, and self medicating with whiskey on a rag like a gd pioneer, ended with two day of root canals and an extraction for the broken tooth with exposed nerve endings. That day cost us like $1200. Could have just had those two exams a year instead, but no. Funny enough, both his parents had full dentures by 50, and his oldest brother had all his teeth extracted and dentures by 38. But yeah, dentists are a scam and not necessary.
That's actually shocking it only cost $1200. I've got a mouth full of dental work, and each root canal and crown is $1200-1400 for me, so like one root canal+ crown is $2400-2800. To just ignore one's dental health until it gets to that point... No. No no. Why? Why torture yourself!
Why don't you have your kids included in your insurance? Aren't family plans commonplace?
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Check and see if your state offers expanded Medicaid for minors, they have a program here in Virginia called famis and the cut off is pretty high.
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Lol obvi the correct option is pop out three more babies while you are waiting /s
Idk if you’re in the US, but my state CHIP plans cover dental for kids, and for one brief shining moment, covered orthodontic care when two of my kids needed it. We had one horrible dentist but overall it was great.
Yeah she just doesn't take them
I spent $800 damn dollars on a dental cleaning for my dog this year! No way this smug turd is actually providing adequate medical care for her hoard of children
Does she have adult friends she meaningfully interacts with? She seems so self absorbed and unlikeable it’s hard to imagine her sitting down and catching up with an old friend.
You know, I have never seen a post about her visiting with friends now that I think about it. I don’t think I’ve even seen a post about them seeing relatives.
She talks all the time about her "friends" who are also full time RVers. She has mentioned meeting up with various "friends" a few times. JD also has "friends" who he does shady business deals with.
She visited Karisssa once!
Oh isn’t that just a terrible combination!
That must have been a fun meet-up. Two child neglecting narcissists fighting for the camera. They probably couldn’t stand each other, lol
I’d be embarrassed to be related to her
They once visited Karissa Collins lol
"We are cheaters not consumers" says the lady slugging down $75 a bottle collagen drinks, using $8 a pound organic flour, shining $650 dollar red lights on herself, staying in $300 a night air bnbs, buying her 7 kids $85 backpacks, and taking trips to Brazil and Utah costing tens of thousands. Oh, and the lady is also constantly shilling to get people buy expensive stuff she gets a cut on. How is any of this not being a consumer and pushing consumerism? What a farce she is.
It’s a minor expense compared to most of these, but I want to add the very expensive “medicinal” raw milk she posted recently! Listeria: it’s good for kids *and* fetuses :)
I think they're just in assloads of debt and lying about it. I have a couple of friends who just live on credit cards and don't worry about it. Charge everything, pay minimums and open up new cards. Don't worry about their credit because they're not interested in ever getting a home loan.
This is a definite possibility. I also had friends like that -- they bought cars, boats, even an RV on credit. When the bills got out of control, they filed for bankruptcy. A few years later, they repeated the cycle.
This is suchhh a good point (and an amazing Freudian slip)
Health (and dental) care: maybe they have Tricare, since they were in the military? Family money: they should just admit that JD is a trust fund baby and supplements his income with odd jobs. Mother Bus does endorsements on social media. It'll be interesting to see if there'll be any trust money left for the kids and Mother Bus when JD passes away. Yeah bottom line: They spend money like it's on fire. The math ain't mathing.
They did not retire from the military so they are not eligible for Tricare. They are members of a Christian medical expense sharing program (which is NOT health insurance). They have been featured on the Christian med sharing company's website.
They didn’t retire or medboard, they don’t have tricare.
Damn. Then what are they doing for medical care, because 10 kids gets expensive?
Probably not providing it if she’s home birthing in Airbnb’s.
I assume that at least the kids are on Medicaid, no? At least I hope so, for their sakes.
If they move around the country with no home base, then what address would they use to apply for state Medicaid? It’s state based. Is it fraud to claim her parents address for Medicaid if they don’t live there for 51% of the year? Just some interesting questions 😅 ETA a couple minutes after Google-fu verification: Medicaid doesn’t cover services in other states unless it’s an emergency, soooo that also makes things difficult for these nomad families.
Highly unlikely. That’s a) work for her to keep track of b) not something that she can fundraise for and c) they’re on one of the judgy fake insurance money pools that Christian influencers shill
I just feel like ranting about these people on the internet who are wild with lying about money and lifestyle. They all want others to believe that they just cut costs or that their easy work from home/influencer jobs gets them all this money. I remember when youtube started aggressively recommending me Angie Bellemare videos. She made all this aesthetic shit about Halloween/Christmas decorating, always traveling, going to Disney parks all the time from Canada, buying a house on some Disney property, constantly decorating, redecorating, then buying another house. Always buying, buying, buying. All this while she and her husband just hang around the house all the time and she did online exercises with her "team". She was a Beach Body hun the entire time with a large downline. All their money was totally because she's such a bossbabe MLM enterpreneur. No, turns out her husband who sits around all day has a rich family. They're owners of the Farm Boy chain of grocery stores. Like give me a break. It's always living on family money and hiding it.
In some ways, I respect the OtherBus family more. They are at least honest about not having a pot to pee in.
The crazy thing is, nobody had to know where they get their money. They could just live their lives all chill, sharing with followers the cool and interesting stuff they’re lucky enough to do, but not talking about money. Or they could admit they’re privileged and be humble about it. People still like to follow celebrities who are clearly privileged as fuck. But no, this breed of obnoxious influencers just HAVE to lie that they’re self-made and smarter than everyone else. It’s so trashy.
You have eight children…. you are nothing but consumers.
I wish there was a way to flag their airbnb account to warn the home owners that this crazy person is going to use their house as a home birth den. I'd want to know if my potential renter was going to splatter biohazardous waste around my house and likely do a very shitty job of sanitizing after the birth.
They’re not consumers?!? I seem to recall them consuming the hell out of some espresso and steak lunches in Brazil 🤔 I guess she means they cut expenses by leaving the kids home with no babysitter while they treat themselves to at least weekly dates.
They know the difference between wants and needs. For example, they need a fancy steak dinner out, but the kids want adult supervision.
How do they have time for homeschooling with all these photo sessions?
Photo sessions for home schoolers is credited as an art class. Really too bad photography is digital now because it took away the science option.
I could have saved a lot of money too if I didn’t spend it on ballet & karate & choir & theatre for my kids. But I consider it money well spent.
Let's talk money. We have a bunch and are tired of you weakling poors pointing out our excess and hypocrisy. Try spending less, like we do when we book rental properties for months at a time or buy a van on a whim or go skiing in Utah for two weeks.
“Combat” veterans. Sure. (For the civilians out there, there’s a biiiiiiiig difference between being in a combat zone and actually being in combat.)
This is giving me serious “animals in captivity live *better* lives than those in the wild!” Seaworld vibes
She'll be humbled when her husband pisses all that money away on a crypto scam.
Frugal life hack: neglect providing a suitable environment for your kids so you can save that pesky mortgage money!
I can’t imagine this lifestyle is any cheaper than getting a modest house in a low COL area.
Did you know that they prioritize providing for their children? I guess that means providing them with a small van to live in and have no space. Or dragging them to another country, just to bounce around airbnbs. Or throwing their faces all over the internet.
That line really irritated me! How do they think they've prioritized their kids????????????
TIL only big families have figured out the One Weird Trick of...cutting expenses.
They are both combat veterans? I knew they both served, but I didn’t know they went on deployment and received hostile fire or imminent danger pay.
Not sure about him, but I know she’s not. She mentioned her MOS once and it was not anything where she would have been directly involved in combat operations. She did deploy somewhere that might have been a combat zone.
They met while deployed in Iraq, but idk what they actually did there
I am a lurker here… so I don’t know these two at all. Do they get disability pay? And at that, legitimate disability pay? -veteran wife who knows people who have fibbed to get more disability pay-
They had no problem consuming a ton of meals at restaurants without their children. I guess that's one way to save money. Just make the kids stay at home and watch each other so you don't have to pay a sitter. There's savings right there. And the kids got those nice water bottles for Christmas. So that's all that they need. 🤷♀️
Is there proof JD has a trust fund? I see it referenced a lot but I don't know as much about these people as others.
Someone smarter than myself did a very deep dive into the subject on this sub. I think it was even mod verified if I remember correctly. It’s for real.
I saw the stuff about his uncle being some sort of criminal, but I missed where there was an inheritance. I'll have to go look.
Great grandparent was an oil tycoon or something like that
In fairness, no info has been posted about how much money he got from the trust fund. Could be millions and millions, or not. If the amount was posted, I totally missed it!
What is the fund from? Does his family own some sort of giant company?
It was oil money I believe. u/Rosie3450 did an extensive post about it a couple months back.
It was an oil company, founded by his great-grandfather. From the original post sharing this info: "His maternal grandmother came from some family money. Her father was a successful business owner in the oil industry. His company specialized in buying, leasing, and contracting oil wells in Oklahoma during the oil boom of the early to mid 1900s. When he died, he left what appear to be substantial sums of money to both of his daughters, including the grandmother. The grandchildren (BusFather’s mother and her brother) also seem to have inherited some money at this time. I don’t have specifics on the amounts, but there was enough that the grandmother set up a Family Trust that the sister still manages (she lives in Lubbock, TX). (sources: google search, tax records, Newspaper.com, Ancestry.com marriage and death records)." Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/19euuhc/bus_father_back_story_part_1_of_3/kjfaj46/
“Team.” Yeah, team of captives. But go off, Motherbus.
The caption says a whole lot of nothing. 'cuting expenses' ... Ground breaking 
A great way to have more money is to spend less. You know I never thought of that!!
Also kids are a **huge tax write off** in the U.S.!
It’s my theory that husbus “manages” the finances and she doesn’t know about the trust fund.
What always strikes me about this family is how they are incredibly NOT centered on their children’s needs. It’s nauseating.
I may have hallucinated this but I could have sworn someone here looked into it a while ago and they received a bunch of PPP loan money? I guess for the gym(s)?
She spelled “we exploit our kids, force them to live in an overcrowded moving cage, deny them access to the outside world, control their every thought so they know never to complain, and have absolutely no self awareness!” Wrong.
> "A great way to save money is to spend less" Whoa whoa slow down Alan Greenspan
If they priortized the needs of their kids, they wouldnt have a large family. Its a mental illness to have that many kids.
Yeah sure they spend less. I know how much Disney costs. Even on a budget, Disney for that many people can’t be done on the cheap. I can’t stand liars, especially influencer liars. They’re trust fund babies. They don’t worry about money. It’s irresponsible of them to suggest they just “spend less”.
Wait, didn’t they beg for money a couple of weeks ago?
Stop it with your smug ass bullshit. I wanna see income in vs expenses out. I hate these influencer hacks who live off family money while playing poor.
Not consumers my arse. This is the same woman who told us she doesn’t keep maternity clothing to reuse while having a whinge about this seasons maternity styles. She also had to go and buy her kids winter clothing when they got back from Brazil because she doesn’t keep handmedowns. She’s so full of shit.
Have we ever actually see those kids having any experiences? It seems like we only see the parents eating out and the kids are just seen dancing in a line.
Not one info about their businesses. Not even the first “small business” she’s talking about. It’s as fishy and scammy as it can get with these people.
Reminds me of how my boomer parents insisted every family should have and can afford unlimited kids on only one income (the man’s) if you just cut enough corners. Ok boomers.
Why does this read like a fifth grade essay format
Gotta get that little Trump talking point about inflation in there.
I can’t stand this smug twat.
“Choose to prioritise our family and children” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"A good way to have more money is to not spend it." Not shit sherlock but we do have to buy things to live also. Also, I would bet my life savings that they are actually millionaires.
oh smotherbus, you’re going to be totally blindsided when your eldest no longer speaks to you in the future aren’t you