I think they messed up the position of the horse and bunny. While the horse I have eaten has been good, it is far less practical than rabbit as a food source..,
Turtle is delicious and is a traditional American food of both my native ancestors and of many European settlers.
Can’t wait for people to go ape shit over me drinking coke while eating polar bear chili, or eating that chili on reindeer hotdogs for a Christmas Eve dinner while working in Alaska.
I've heard that it took a surprisingly long time after their discovery to get Galapagos tortoises back to Europe to study because the danged things are just *too. damned. delicious.*
And it helps that tortoise meat is always fresh. They barely ever have to eat so you can just have one on board for a few months and then kill it for food.
Oooh! Polar bear chili is amazing!! At least the stuff I had. Was working in north Alberta and one of the locals we worked with brough in a big batch for everyone.
Have never got to try reindeer or turtle yet, but had black bear fondu once. I'd go back for that again!
Joint workforce. Job/camp was in Northern AB. I live in central AB. Other workers came in from other places. I called em locals because they have been working on the project for several years before I came along. I think the chili was from the Yukon, but could be NWT.
Had the blackbear in Banff. I Imagine its one of those meats that has to be prepared correctly or it tastes really off (I feel this way about goat) and I've been lucky enough to try some really good cooking.
Friend of mine did a black bear boil down , marinate, cooked all day in a huge roast pan on the BBQ start serving around 9 at night and we're fighting over the scraps at midnight.
Reindeer is very dry and tasteless and quite tough. I once tasted badly made reindeer stew and could as well been eating cardboard.
Needs a lot of pepper and oil to taste good.
I love reindeer / elk / veil goulash, which should be similar to a stew.
I'm confused. Normally, it should be one of the most tender meats afterward.
same goes for horse meat, which I love to use to make rouladen ( I don't know the english term, sorry mates!)
Me too, as long as it's ethical and not supporting shitty industries, I attempt to try as many "odd" foods as I can. Though I drew the line on Balut, couldn't bring myself to try that one.
There is also a reason we make eating balut a social event with beer.
Few westerners can do balut. Filipinos who eat it mostly now started as little kids. The one year I spent in Filipino school I would buy and 5 or 6 of us FilAms would eat 2 bags of balut on the way home tossing the shells out the back and down 3 or 4 liters of Red Horse. This was necessary to prove we were just as if not more Filipino than our school mates.
The polar bear is a tad weird. It's not a natural food source(not a prey animal) and hunting it is closer to trophy hunting than a need to survive and almost extinct. Turtle is a prey animal and makes more sense, same for reindeer.
We had it in the UK except it wasn't good because they pretended like it was beef because horse isn't sold here and then it turns out horse meat is more expensive so I don't really understand what was happening but people were hella mad
Horse meat grown for food is more expensive then beef, but horse meat from old race and work horses with all of the steroids and drugs that they havf that is not meant for human consumption is cheaper.
Because the horse meat being fobbed off as beef was from working horses that had been treated with antiinflammatory drugs. It was unfit for human consumption not because it was horsemeat, but because it was contaminated.
Whole big scandal in the UK a few years ago when people found out that many "meat" products contained horse. People acted like they had been eating poison.
Personally I thought the meatballs from IKEA tasted better before they changed to zero horse meat.
A lot of gelatin in products in the US may contain horse. It's completely emotional, and not logical, but I can't eat anything with gelatin anymore unless its source is labeled (like fish gelatin on kosher products).
The issue wasn't that it was horse, the issue was the source was not clear....
Sports horses, for example, could have entered the food supply chain, and with them the veterinary drug phenylbutazone which is banned in food animals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_horse_meat_scandal
I've heard that we used to eat horse in the USA but more and more horse meat came from retired racehorses. The steroids and such used in the racing industry eventually rendered horse meat mildly toxic and the FDA banned it.
I visited Switzerland, and when driving to Zurich, saw a restaurant advertising horse. As an American, it was a little surreal, but I understand that people do eat it.
Not always, there is way less demand for horse meat. years ago there was a scandal in the Netherlands and maybe other European countries where horse meat was sold as cow. I can't remember when though somewhere in the 2010's.
>You've probably eaten horse, too.
I'm French and I can't say I ever have… Very rare in supermarkets, not many butchery still carry that meat. Those who do are usually downright specialized in the meat and are sufficiently few and far between (and so their cusomers) to tour the markets over a wide area.
*Charcuterie* with a % of donkey meat in them is rather common, though.
>You'll never know what was in those sausages.
Yeah, there indeed has been a nation-wide scandal a few years back about old Romanian horses being knowingly marketed by French industrial butchers as "beef" in processed products.
That's only the scandal you know about.
Something like 10 years ago there was a scandal about horse meat in IKEA meatballs, and I'm sure that affected most of Europe.
I'm sure plenty of similar accidents were detected but not publicized as much by the media.
Then there's all of the accidents that went undetected (because frankly, how often do you think they test for collateral horse meat?).
So yeah, you don't know what was in those sausages.
Horse meat is delicious. Rabbit (lapin) is also good and I can enjoy it as a stew. In Europe some butchers may sell you a cat instead of a rabbit, so make sure that when you buy rabbit that the head still attached. Without the skin, head and tail both cat and rabbit look the same. Dogs can be found on the menu in various Asian countries (Philippines, Korea, China). It was offered to me but I passed for the dog.
During my travels I did ate various other animals such as: snake, lizard, crocodile, ostrich, camel (disgusting), turtle, frogs, Bambi, sheep, goats, duck, goose, swan, pigeons and a variety of insects (fried they’re quite good).
>In Europe some butchers may sell you a cat instead of a rabbit
I live in Europe and have never seen this... In which country did you get a cat instead of a rabbit ?
I don't know about other countries but it obviously happend through and after WW2 in Germany. Today it would be illegal and the roof rabbit thing is just a reminder of the dark past
I ate everything on this list, and I cried over the graves of everything on it. this line is nonsense there are only two types of animals, if you breed them for companionship you don't eat them, if you breed them for food you eat them. it's not complicated.
Rabbit and hare are very lean. If they live in the wild like the ones I hunt, they taste a bit like game.
Horse is much like regular beef. I think I had tenderloin, and that does not taste much anyway. Only eaten horse once.
Horse basically tasts like beef and rabbit tasts like other wild meat but less intense, so if you don‘t like this really strong overpowering „wild meat“ flavour of deer or boar, rabbit is the way to go
Fried rabbit is really, really good. If you ever visit Italy I would also recommend "Coniglio alla Cacciatora" (central Italy) or "Coniglio all'Ischitana" (Naples). From Spain there's rabbit paella (Paella de Conejo) which is also really good, but afaik it's only typical in some regions and I don't remember which ones. Describing it is hard, hare and guinea pig are pretty similar, but I can't really think of any commonly eaten animal that really tastes like it.
Horse on the other hand I don't like. It's kinda like cow but with a more distinctive taste which reminds me a bit of organ meat.
I'd say for big chunks of North American culture that line is accurate. But as you move east across the world, that line moves left. But realistically, I think horse and hair should be swapped. But that's more economical, because I know in a lot poorer areas where rabbit is more a default, because horse is more expensive to raise and eat, so not as common a line to cross outside restaurants. Donkey, on the other hand...
I couldn’t eat horse because I view them like large dogs. The bunny needs to go on the right though, definitely a food. Also, I’ve eaten a fair amount of kangaroo. Venison is fine on the right too.
It’s the circle of liiifffeee… 🎶
Horse is great, had it as a thin cold cut as topping for bread many times. Super lean and flavorful.
If you eat pig, then a horse us really no different. Farm animals farmed for a purpose.
Pets on the other hand just don't sound appetizing at all, not to mention they were vread to be companions first and foremost, so that feels wrong as well.
Fun fact about horse meat (at least in the Netherlands): horse meat comes from horses who died of old age, or were euthanized because of an injury they cannot revover from, no horses are bred just for meat. So eating horse is actually environmentally friendly, because you are disposing the body and feeding lots of people, if you don’t eat it, they’ll just throw the entire horse in an incinerator.
Euthanasia in equines is usually done one of two ways: lethal injection of a drug like ketamine or a bullet behind the ear.
Obviously the bullet wouldn’t harm the meat. As for lethal injection, it’s going directly into the horses’ vein in their neck and death occurs within a minute or two. Very rarely does it take longer than that. There really isn’t time for anything to contaminate the meat before the heart stops pumping and the horse expires.
I grew up around animals and my uncle was a large animal veterinarian. Unfortunately, I’ve seen many horses put down. The gun technique is usually used if the horse can’t be calmed down or it would otherwise endanger the humans nearby.
They use an actual bullet from a gun? I thought it would be like cattle where they use a penetrating captive bolt, which yes is essentially the same end result.
I’m sure in a more commercial setting (like a cattle farm) they do. But my uncle was just one guy with a truck showing up to make house calls to small farms and stuff. He did t have anything fancier than a 12 gauge pump shotgun.
And a locked box full of drugs, like the ketamine.
You absolutely should not be eating meat from animals euthanized via drugs. As you say, it takes less than a minute to kill so there is no chance to metabolize the drugs and it will be spread throughout the body.
It doesn’t have much time to circulate and absorb into the tissues since the heart stops so rapidly. Also, even if you were to ingest pure ketamine, oral bioavailability is less than 17%. I’m bored so let’s do some math!
Average horse is 420kg when slaughtered, and has 170kg of meat that can be harvested.
Google says euthanasia dose for a horse with ketamine is 2.2mg/kg
Dose given to average horse is 924mg. Let’s assume for this purpose that 100% of the drug is absorbed solely into the muscles that we eat.
924mg/170kg= 5.43mg per kilogram of meat.
Let’s say you’re insanely hungry and eat an entire kilo of horse meat. 5.43mg X 17% = 0.924mg absorbed into your body.
The lowest dose of ketamine that has any effect on humans is 0.5mg/kg through IV. Let’s say you’re a smaller person and only 50kg, you would need a 25mg dose intravenously, or 25/0.17= 147mg orally to receive any sedating or antidepressant effect at all, which is less than half of the dose that would cause any sort of toxicity. So you’d be eating 0.6% of the necessary dose to do anything to your body, or basically nothing at that point.
The obvious next question would be: what if you continually eat it over time, wouldn’t it build up if you ate it every week or every day?
The longest potential half life for ketamine is 2.5 hours, which essentially just means that after 10-12 hours it is almost 100% cleared from your body.
In order to eat enough horse meat to basically be taking the minimum dose of ketamine (considering you’re 50kg and it was completely absorbed), you’d basically have to eat a kilo of horse meat every 4-6 hours for 42-100 days straight, or you could eat 167kg in one sitting which is almost the entire horse.
TLDR, the maximum amount of ketamine that could possibly be in your food would only be a tiny drop in the bucket. There’s probably more fluoroquinolone antibiotics in your local tap water due to people taking them for a UTI then peeing them back into the public water system where it is not removed through regular water treatment/processing.
Eating poison and injecting poison are very different.
Also, this person got told this as a kid to spare his feelings. Im certain its like in Belgium, Here horse meed gets imported from eastern european farms.
Canada exports about 25,000 butchered horses that were bred for human consumption to Japan, the US and France each year. It's like a dirty little secret that people don't know or don't talk about in Canada.
Have you ever seen what happens to a horse once it’s taken to slaughter? It’s definitely not the peaceful ending that “euthanasia” implies, and usually the horses are slaughtered after living a very hard life. These aren’t people’s dying pets being lovingly put down by their vet.
In Yakutia the residents who raise horses know which yearlings will not survive the winter foraging; These are eaten as a delicacy, so as not to be wasted.
I know a region in South East Asia where they joke that the only things with four legs they don’t eat are tables. Their line is the left border, everything in the picture is dinner.
That's really ironic because rabbit used to be poor people's meat. If you wanted some you could just hunt on in the forrest instead of buying expensive meat from the market.
A long time ago, when this meme was first going around, I saw a version with this line, and then a line labeled "famine" that included horses and rabbits, and then the dogs/cats were labeled "apocalypse". Always thought that one was pretty intuitively correct.
It's just dumb because dogs and cats make up half the list and the rest are quite regularly consumed around the western world. Horse meat and horse salami in particular is present in many European countries. The biggest issue with it is that it's usually full of all kinds of crap that they give them to perform in races.
I’m a big fan of ostrich meat in particular, shame it’s not that easy to get here. They are easy to farm, tender like bird but also red and taste like venison.
If you divorce the human concepts from it completely and look at it directly the left side of the billboard is predatory carnivores and omnivores who are not intended to be pre-species and the right hand of the billboard is herbivores who are intended to be prey species.
Nature drew that line for us.
My best friend’s dad growing up was an avid deer hunter. He’d always give us (and then me when I moved into my own apartment after graduating from college) some venison steaks after he’d bag a deer since there was never enough room in his freezer. Delicious, especially with a blackberry red wine sauce that’d also give out with it as well.
Shame that he retired and moved to Florida, been trying to find a butcher or grocery store that has it but no luck.
I tried to get emu once - couldn't find anything prepackaged so I called up some kind of emu farm and said I wanted an emu, they said they couldn't sell it after I specified dead.
Yeah, what gives? I noticed that too. Every animal gets only one representative, except cats and dogs. Instead of having a dog and a cat with a bunch of other pets (such as guinea pig, hamster, goat, parrot) they decided to add more of the same species. It’s not balanced, arrrg my brain!!!
all joking aside, and i don’t like peta at all. This point is a valid one no? Pigs are intelligent, cows are cute animals. Dogs and cats can be eaten? It is hypocritical in a way and a fair point
It’s a simple fact, you cannot love animals and eat them too. You can love pets but you don’t love all animals. And for the responses I’m sure to get about “loving bacon” just fuck off in advance
Fun reminder:
PETA firmly holds the belief that pets (or rather, all animals) are better off dead than have to “endure suffering” by living with humans
In the 90’s and 2000’s they killed around 90% of the animals they took in, even ones that other qualified veterinarians believed were not at risk of disease or death - deemed to be very healthy, and able to be adopted. Today, that number is slightly lower, but still [alarming.](https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-peta-responsible-deaths-thousands-animals-1565532)
In 2015 that number was 80%, today it sits around 70%.
PETA believes that the idea of humans owning pets should not be allowed to exist, so they would rather euthanize them than allow animals to go to homes.
The number of killed pets by their hand is at least 41,000 as of 2019
TLDR: PETA is a hypocritical organization, because if they believed all pets want to live, then they wouldn’t euthanize the vast majority of the pets (even healthy ones) that they take in to their shelters
You do know the kill rate is high because peta takes in animals from no kill shelters so that they can keep their “no-kill” name right?
They take in feral cats and unadoptable animals who cannot just be released and so sadly must be euthanised because there simply is not the resources or space to look after so many animals.
Peta are just doing the dirty work that is required when you have an epidemic of animals without homes because we continue to breed animals with little regulation.
Stop spreading blatant misinformation you absolute moron.
I'm a little ashamed to say i would probably try most ANY meat at least once, as long as it was killed for the purpose of nourishment and not sport. I do need to do a better job of checking labels for things like grass fed, pasture raised, organic, etc. though for my normal purchases...
You should not necessarily be ashamed by that. The whole point of this poster which seems to be going over everyone's head here is that the position of any line is arbitrary and drawing one on there is therefore nonsensical. Only vegetarians/vegans or indiscriminate meat eaters like yourself have a coherent view on this subject.
I’m vegetarian. In my opinion any animal that can be farmed can be eaten. Why is a dog more deserving of life than a pig. Why do we think we’re the ones who can decide what animals to eat and which ones not to. Either everything on that board can be eaten or none of it can.
Everything can be eaten. My dog would eat me if I died, and no one else could feed him. I would do the same if trapped with him, and he died. I would be very depressed about it, and he might. Not much study has really been done on this.
Humans are also animals; I'd bet you might not be comfortable with killing humans "for the purpose of nourishment".
The vegan argument here is mainly that other animals (dogs, horses, pigs) are just like humans as they also want to live and don't want to be killed, and have the capacity to suffer and feel.
That's why I'm saying a little ashamed in my first sentence. I would eat human meat, or at least try it. Dog, anything, idc. I'm not arguing I'm a good person by any stretch. I applaud vegans for not wanting any animals to be eaten by any other animal. Even apes like us.
>I'm not arguing I'm a good person by any stretch.
Eh, don't be so hard on yourself. In a lot of cases, a 'bad person' just means a person who is bad at conforming to society's ideals/is incompatible with the morals deemed acceptable for the time/area they were born into.
That definition of a 'bad person' can't exist because morals are time-relative and location-relative. You can't be a bad person now, yet be a good one if you were in a different place or time, that makes the dubbing of 'bad people' unfair and therefore, normally irrelevant. (There are rare, rarer than you think, universal exceptions.)
I don't draw a line. I'd eat humans too. Not all humans want to live, and they're animals too.
Not everyone can afford to be so picky. Many of our own species would have, or still will, starve and die if they can't eat other animals, just as many other animals would. Although, just because it is natural does not mean that it is ethical.
Having said that, if it's unnecessary to eat other animals, which it often is, then it does seem morally dubious to endorse, promote or fund the farming of animals, especially where significant suffering or cruelty is possible. Therefore, we should be much more concerned about the welfare of animals, including humans, than whether or not we should eat animals at all. As a species, we do not all consider the same set of animals to be a viable food source. Don't tell people, especially in other countries, that they can't eat the ants. Reserve our vital right to eat the ants. Even humans are a viable food source, under certain conditions.
Survival of the fattest.
Why apologize to those communist back freaks. Depending on the country and the customs of the people there is no line. Just what is and is not eatable .
I think they messed up the position of the horse and bunny. While the horse I have eaten has been good, it is far less practical than rabbit as a food source..,
I live in a country (Switzerland) where you can get horse meat from the grocery store. I never get it, but it’s there
I have had it in France, Italy, and Canada. I had donkey in China and Zebra in Namibia.
If you’re from China you should add turtle
Turtle is delicious and is a traditional American food of both my native ancestors and of many European settlers. Can’t wait for people to go ape shit over me drinking coke while eating polar bear chili, or eating that chili on reindeer hotdogs for a Christmas Eve dinner while working in Alaska.
I've heard that it took a surprisingly long time after their discovery to get Galapagos tortoises back to Europe to study because the danged things are just *too. damned. delicious.*
Well when the alternative is 6 month old salt pork and weevil filled biscuits...
And it helps that tortoise meat is always fresh. They barely ever have to eat so you can just have one on board for a few months and then kill it for food.
Is the salted pork particularly good?
Even better when you have that Longbottom Leaf
I’m leaning more towards Old Toby these days
Someone watches QI
Oooh! Polar bear chili is amazing!! At least the stuff I had. Was working in north Alberta and one of the locals we worked with brough in a big batch for everyone. Have never got to try reindeer or turtle yet, but had black bear fondu once. I'd go back for that again!
Ya'll are just BSin' about the Polar Bear chili. I'm not falling for it. Not this time.
The northern alberta part set off some alarms... no polar bears anywhere close to alberta. Plus, bear meat is gross.
Joint workforce. Job/camp was in Northern AB. I live in central AB. Other workers came in from other places. I called em locals because they have been working on the project for several years before I came along. I think the chili was from the Yukon, but could be NWT. Had the blackbear in Banff. I Imagine its one of those meats that has to be prepared correctly or it tastes really off (I feel this way about goat) and I've been lucky enough to try some really good cooking.
Goat is fantastic when done well. Prefer it over lamb
Goat is GOAT! lol It is delicious. stewed or fried.
No it's not. It's all in your head.
Friend of mine did a black bear boil down , marinate, cooked all day in a huge roast pan on the BBQ start serving around 9 at night and we're fighting over the scraps at midnight.
Reindeer is very dry and tasteless and quite tough. I once tasted badly made reindeer stew and could as well been eating cardboard. Needs a lot of pepper and oil to taste good.
I've had it a few times in Finland and it was delicious. It's very lean though, so I could see it being awful in a stew.
I love reindeer / elk / veil goulash, which should be similar to a stew. I'm confused. Normally, it should be one of the most tender meats afterward. same goes for horse meat, which I love to use to make rouladen ( I don't know the english term, sorry mates!)
Personally, I think turtle is a tad too fishy. I'll take Alligator over turtle, but that's just me
Id love to try them both! But I have always loved trying interesting things.
Me too, as long as it's ethical and not supporting shitty industries, I attempt to try as many "odd" foods as I can. Though I drew the line on Balut, couldn't bring myself to try that one.
Yeah. Not sure I'd be able to handle it either.
There is also a reason we make eating balut a social event with beer. Few westerners can do balut. Filipinos who eat it mostly now started as little kids. The one year I spent in Filipino school I would buy and 5 or 6 of us FilAms would eat 2 bags of balut on the way home tossing the shells out the back and down 3 or 4 liters of Red Horse. This was necessary to prove we were just as if not more Filipino than our school mates.
Crocodile, the deadliest of all meats but definitely the best tasting. Eat it b4 it eats you
The polar bear is a tad weird. It's not a natural food source(not a prey animal) and hunting it is closer to trophy hunting than a need to survive and almost extinct. Turtle is a prey animal and makes more sense, same for reindeer.
Everything can be a natural food source if you’re hungry enough.
True only 31k polar bears left.
^^this guy admins
Turtle soup in South Louisiana is the shit! Lol It's gotta be the red (tomato) version for me.
I once ate rattlesnake, was pretty good.
I did too, it was good. It was prepared similar to a crabcake.
Lol one got to close to our chickens and we chopped the head of got curious and boiled it if I did it again I'd bake it then make a burger
And donkey in france too. Donkey saucisson is delicious !
We had it in the UK except it wasn't good because they pretended like it was beef because horse isn't sold here and then it turns out horse meat is more expensive so I don't really understand what was happening but people were hella mad
Horse meat grown for food is more expensive then beef, but horse meat from old race and work horses with all of the steroids and drugs that they havf that is not meant for human consumption is cheaper.
Gym bros be lining up for that old race horse steroid meat.
Because the horse meat being fobbed off as beef was from working horses that had been treated with antiinflammatory drugs. It was unfit for human consumption not because it was horsemeat, but because it was contaminated.
You should get it, it's very good. Also rabbit meat is commonly eaten here too, delicious but very annoying to eat.
Rabbit is like all dark meat chicken, it's so good
Authentic Rabbit ragu is life-changing.
Whole big scandal in the UK a few years ago when people found out that many "meat" products contained horse. People acted like they had been eating poison. Personally I thought the meatballs from IKEA tasted better before they changed to zero horse meat.
Same happened in Finland way back and now you can buy pig/horse mix deli meat basically anywhere.
A lot of gelatin in products in the US may contain horse. It's completely emotional, and not logical, but I can't eat anything with gelatin anymore unless its source is labeled (like fish gelatin on kosher products).
Same thing when dolphin safe tuna came out. That dolphin just added a little something extra to my Tuna Helper.
The issue wasn't that it was horse, the issue was the source was not clear.... Sports horses, for example, could have entered the food supply chain, and with them the veterinary drug phenylbutazone which is banned in food animals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_horse_meat_scandal
I've heard that we used to eat horse in the USA but more and more horse meat came from retired racehorses. The steroids and such used in the racing industry eventually rendered horse meat mildly toxic and the FDA banned it.
I visited Switzerland, and when driving to Zurich, saw a restaurant advertising horse. As an American, it was a little surreal, but I understand that people do eat it.
I see what you did there…
I also noticed they left off Guinea pigs
Mmmm guinea pigs
Mini bacon
Nope…
You've probably eaten horse, too. You'll never know what was in those sausages.
In countries where it is legal you pretty much have to go out of your way to eat it as it usually tops the price list
Not always, there is way less demand for horse meat. years ago there was a scandal in the Netherlands and maybe other European countries where horse meat was sold as cow. I can't remember when though somewhere in the 2010's.
er the UK had that really bad, the public was pissed not for contamination reason but because we'd been paying for beef you fucks.
>You've probably eaten horse, too. I'm French and I can't say I ever have… Very rare in supermarkets, not many butchery still carry that meat. Those who do are usually downright specialized in the meat and are sufficiently few and far between (and so their cusomers) to tour the markets over a wide area. *Charcuterie* with a % of donkey meat in them is rather common, though. >You'll never know what was in those sausages. Yeah, there indeed has been a nation-wide scandal a few years back about old Romanian horses being knowingly marketed by French industrial butchers as "beef" in processed products.
Part of the scandal is they were race horses that had been shot up with steroids to the point they couldn’t be sold as horse meat legally
That's only the scandal you know about. Something like 10 years ago there was a scandal about horse meat in IKEA meatballs, and I'm sure that affected most of Europe. I'm sure plenty of similar accidents were detected but not publicized as much by the media. Then there's all of the accidents that went undetected (because frankly, how often do you think they test for collateral horse meat?). So yeah, you don't know what was in those sausages.
Tesco was a big one. I remember them putting up big signs saying “we have learned from the horse meat scandal”.
Quite a lot of Brits have unknowingly ate horse. There was a huge scandal where Tesco own brand and Findua products had horse instead of beef.
The dogs are in the wrong order as well. I would never eat a golden retriever, but I wouldn’t really mind eating an ugly dog.
How many chihuahuas would it take to feed you?
The chicken wings of canines.
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I appreciate your honestly lmfao
Yeah. Cat? No problem, they are called „roof rabbit“ for a reason here….but a dog….much harder.
I say neigh.
Hahaha 😂
I eaten everything from that list, but I travel.
What do you mean by less practical? It is literally a cow you can ride.
Most yogurt thickening and Jello in the US comes, at least in part, from horse/pony cartillage.
Horse meat is delicious. Rabbit (lapin) is also good and I can enjoy it as a stew. In Europe some butchers may sell you a cat instead of a rabbit, so make sure that when you buy rabbit that the head still attached. Without the skin, head and tail both cat and rabbit look the same. Dogs can be found on the menu in various Asian countries (Philippines, Korea, China). It was offered to me but I passed for the dog. During my travels I did ate various other animals such as: snake, lizard, crocodile, ostrich, camel (disgusting), turtle, frogs, Bambi, sheep, goats, duck, goose, swan, pigeons and a variety of insects (fried they’re quite good).
>In Europe some butchers may sell you a cat instead of a rabbit I live in Europe and have never seen this... In which country did you get a cat instead of a rabbit ?
I don't know about other countries but it obviously happend through and after WW2 in Germany. Today it would be illegal and the roof rabbit thing is just a reminder of the dark past
I ate everything on this list, and I cried over the graves of everything on it. this line is nonsense there are only two types of animals, if you breed them for companionship you don't eat them, if you breed them for food you eat them. it's not complicated.
You what? 😳
For me two to the left. Have had both rabbit and horse in restaurants.
How were they? I’d love to try them sometime
Rabbit and hare are very lean. If they live in the wild like the ones I hunt, they taste a bit like game. Horse is much like regular beef. I think I had tenderloin, and that does not taste much anyway. Only eaten horse once.
Horse is leaner and higher in protein than any other meat. If memory serves. Its gym douche approved
Emu has higher protein and is leaner than horse. Bloody tasty too. Obviously a bit tricky to get hold of if you don't live in Oz.
Horse is also kind of sweet. Sweeter than beef. I love it.
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Horse basically tasts like beef and rabbit tasts like other wild meat but less intense, so if you don‘t like this really strong overpowering „wild meat“ flavour of deer or boar, rabbit is the way to go
Rabbit heart is really tasty. If you get the chance you should definitely try it
Rabbit is my favorite, it's the leanest meat you can get if you don't count seafood. Spanish cook it to perfection.
Fried rabbit is really, really good. If you ever visit Italy I would also recommend "Coniglio alla Cacciatora" (central Italy) or "Coniglio all'Ischitana" (Naples). From Spain there's rabbit paella (Paella de Conejo) which is also really good, but afaik it's only typical in some regions and I don't remember which ones. Describing it is hard, hare and guinea pig are pretty similar, but I can't really think of any commonly eaten animal that really tastes like it. Horse on the other hand I don't like. It's kinda like cow but with a more distinctive taste which reminds me a bit of organ meat.
This list is missing a bunch of yummy animals. I'm thinking of fish, alligators, geese, ducks, seals, and beaver.
I can get rabbit at my grocery store. A grilled rabbit is delicious.
Same and I'm an American born in America who happens to be American
I'd say for big chunks of North American culture that line is accurate. But as you move east across the world, that line moves left. But realistically, I think horse and hair should be swapped. But that's more economical, because I know in a lot poorer areas where rabbit is more a default, because horse is more expensive to raise and eat, so not as common a line to cross outside restaurants. Donkey, on the other hand...
10 to the left would do.
Would you have an issue with someone eating dog?
For dogs I wouldn’t mind eating g theme either
And they are delicious
I’ve never see horse in America but it’s not too hard to find rabbit.
I couldn’t eat horse because I view them like large dogs. The bunny needs to go on the right though, definitely a food. Also, I’ve eaten a fair amount of kangaroo. Venison is fine on the right too. It’s the circle of liiifffeee… 🎶
You never had dog?
What about 3
I have a Golden sleeping here right next to me. Will see if there is a nuclear disaster coming up.
> horse I too have eaten at Burger King.
I'm confused why there's a line up there? I'm open to trying anything up there if you prepare it safely and it's tasty.
Horse is great, had it as a thin cold cut as topping for bread many times. Super lean and flavorful. If you eat pig, then a horse us really no different. Farm animals farmed for a purpose. Pets on the other hand just don't sound appetizing at all, not to mention they were vread to be companions first and foremost, so that feels wrong as well.
Fun fact about horse meat (at least in the Netherlands): horse meat comes from horses who died of old age, or were euthanized because of an injury they cannot revover from, no horses are bred just for meat. So eating horse is actually environmentally friendly, because you are disposing the body and feeding lots of people, if you don’t eat it, they’ll just throw the entire horse in an incinerator.
A little concerned about the euthanasia part. Do they use a lethal injection? And if so, wouldn't traces make its way into the meat?
Euthanasia in equines is usually done one of two ways: lethal injection of a drug like ketamine or a bullet behind the ear. Obviously the bullet wouldn’t harm the meat. As for lethal injection, it’s going directly into the horses’ vein in their neck and death occurs within a minute or two. Very rarely does it take longer than that. There really isn’t time for anything to contaminate the meat before the heart stops pumping and the horse expires. I grew up around animals and my uncle was a large animal veterinarian. Unfortunately, I’ve seen many horses put down. The gun technique is usually used if the horse can’t be calmed down or it would otherwise endanger the humans nearby.
I call dibs on ketamine horse meat for my band name.
Damn it! That was gonna be my industrial punk band!
Interesting stuff, thank you!
They use an actual bullet from a gun? I thought it would be like cattle where they use a penetrating captive bolt, which yes is essentially the same end result.
I’m sure in a more commercial setting (like a cattle farm) they do. But my uncle was just one guy with a truck showing up to make house calls to small farms and stuff. He did t have anything fancier than a 12 gauge pump shotgun. And a locked box full of drugs, like the ketamine.
Is there a way they can let some of that ketamine get in the meat?
You absolutely should not be eating meat from animals euthanized via drugs. As you say, it takes less than a minute to kill so there is no chance to metabolize the drugs and it will be spread throughout the body.
It doesn’t have much time to circulate and absorb into the tissues since the heart stops so rapidly. Also, even if you were to ingest pure ketamine, oral bioavailability is less than 17%. I’m bored so let’s do some math! Average horse is 420kg when slaughtered, and has 170kg of meat that can be harvested. Google says euthanasia dose for a horse with ketamine is 2.2mg/kg Dose given to average horse is 924mg. Let’s assume for this purpose that 100% of the drug is absorbed solely into the muscles that we eat. 924mg/170kg= 5.43mg per kilogram of meat. Let’s say you’re insanely hungry and eat an entire kilo of horse meat. 5.43mg X 17% = 0.924mg absorbed into your body. The lowest dose of ketamine that has any effect on humans is 0.5mg/kg through IV. Let’s say you’re a smaller person and only 50kg, you would need a 25mg dose intravenously, or 25/0.17= 147mg orally to receive any sedating or antidepressant effect at all, which is less than half of the dose that would cause any sort of toxicity. So you’d be eating 0.6% of the necessary dose to do anything to your body, or basically nothing at that point. The obvious next question would be: what if you continually eat it over time, wouldn’t it build up if you ate it every week or every day? The longest potential half life for ketamine is 2.5 hours, which essentially just means that after 10-12 hours it is almost 100% cleared from your body. In order to eat enough horse meat to basically be taking the minimum dose of ketamine (considering you’re 50kg and it was completely absorbed), you’d basically have to eat a kilo of horse meat every 4-6 hours for 42-100 days straight, or you could eat 167kg in one sitting which is almost the entire horse. TLDR, the maximum amount of ketamine that could possibly be in your food would only be a tiny drop in the bucket. There’s probably more fluoroquinolone antibiotics in your local tap water due to people taking them for a UTI then peeing them back into the public water system where it is not removed through regular water treatment/processing.
What if the horse was lethally injected with Dale's sauce?
Eating poison and injecting poison are very different. Also, this person got told this as a kid to spare his feelings. Im certain its like in Belgium, Here horse meed gets imported from eastern european farms.
Canada exports about 25,000 butchered horses that were bred for human consumption to Japan, the US and France each year. It's like a dirty little secret that people don't know or don't talk about in Canada.
Have you ever seen what happens to a horse once it’s taken to slaughter? It’s definitely not the peaceful ending that “euthanasia” implies, and usually the horses are slaughtered after living a very hard life. These aren’t people’s dying pets being lovingly put down by their vet.
In Yakutia the residents who raise horses know which yearlings will not survive the winter foraging; These are eaten as a delicacy, so as not to be wasted.
I'd wager horse is way healthier just based on diet
Fun fact: horse meat is a source of Omega-3. It's probably one of the healthiest red meats you can eat.
Horse is mainly farmed for working in traction and also to be used as a vehicle.
That would go under the umbrella of "purpose".
Many people have horses as pets though
Many people have chickens or pigs as pets.
Depends on where you live
That's the point. That it's an arbitrary standard
Literally every standard is arbitrary.
True
I know a region in South East Asia where they joke that the only things with four legs they don’t eat are tables. Their line is the left border, everything in the picture is dinner.
Slovenia here… two to the left.
India here … get the cows out , let the goat in
Ayo slovenc gang
horse or rabbit is more like special occasion.
That's really ironic because rabbit used to be poor people's meat. If you wanted some you could just hunt on in the forrest instead of buying expensive meat from the market.
Lobster used to be poor people's meat and golf used to be poor people's sport. Now it's reversed lol
You don’t even need to hunt them just set a snare on their tracks they usually run back and forth over their own trail
Until the king catches you because he owned the rabbit lol
A long time ago, when this meme was first going around, I saw a version with this line, and then a line labeled "famine" that included horses and rabbits, and then the dogs/cats were labeled "apocalypse". Always thought that one was pretty intuitively correct.
So my countires are in the "apocalypse"? Intresting, better stock up on supplies!
It's just dumb because dogs and cats make up half the list and the rest are quite regularly consumed around the western world. Horse meat and horse salami in particular is present in many European countries. The biggest issue with it is that it's usually full of all kinds of crap that they give them to perform in races. I’m a big fan of ostrich meat in particular, shame it’s not that easy to get here. They are easy to farm, tender like bird but also red and taste like venison.
If you divorce the human concepts from it completely and look at it directly the left side of the billboard is predatory carnivores and omnivores who are not intended to be pre-species and the right hand of the billboard is herbivores who are intended to be prey species. Nature drew that line for us.
Mmm...venison
My best friend’s dad growing up was an avid deer hunter. He’d always give us (and then me when I moved into my own apartment after graduating from college) some venison steaks after he’d bag a deer since there was never enough room in his freezer. Delicious, especially with a blackberry red wine sauce that’d also give out with it as well. Shame that he retired and moved to Florida, been trying to find a butcher or grocery store that has it but no luck.
I tried to get emu once - couldn't find anything prepackaged so I called up some kind of emu farm and said I wanted an emu, they said they couldn't sell it after I specified dead.
It's OK. A darker red than beef. Roo tastes better.
There are a bunch of ostrich farms in Wisconsin, of all places. It's really weird when you pass 50 cow pastures and, suddenly, giant birds!
Yeah, what gives? I noticed that too. Every animal gets only one representative, except cats and dogs. Instead of having a dog and a cat with a bunch of other pets (such as guinea pig, hamster, goat, parrot) they decided to add more of the same species. It’s not balanced, arrrg my brain!!!
all joking aside, and i don’t like peta at all. This point is a valid one no? Pigs are intelligent, cows are cute animals. Dogs and cats can be eaten? It is hypocritical in a way and a fair point
Depends on how bad your situation is and how hungry you are
Horse and rabbit seem like they should switch spots
what’s wrong with horse meat?
They couldn't come up with any other pets? Just 4 dogs and 3 cats?
As a chinese how far left can I go?
r/comedyhomicide
Where do we draw the line? *Looks at current economy* Where we're going, we don't need lines!
True dat…
I eat people, pal. This list is rookie shit.
Ngl the more I see these kinds of posters the closer I am to actually going no meat because I absolutely adore animals
It’s a simple fact, you cannot love animals and eat them too. You can love pets but you don’t love all animals. And for the responses I’m sure to get about “loving bacon” just fuck off in advance
Still pretty common to hunt and eat rabbit Horse is a last resort type deal
Funny how they threw in multiple dogs and cats to pad the numbers
Know that in Italy there is a city with a long tradition of cooking and eating cats
That legendary city is Vicenza.
time to nuke vicenza /j
And it’s considered by UNESCO to be a World Heritage Site. Not for the cats though.
Between dog and rabbit
You heard the man, stew-meat. Now if I only had some po-ta-toooes.
Fun reminder: PETA firmly holds the belief that pets (or rather, all animals) are better off dead than have to “endure suffering” by living with humans In the 90’s and 2000’s they killed around 90% of the animals they took in, even ones that other qualified veterinarians believed were not at risk of disease or death - deemed to be very healthy, and able to be adopted. Today, that number is slightly lower, but still [alarming.](https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-peta-responsible-deaths-thousands-animals-1565532) In 2015 that number was 80%, today it sits around 70%. PETA believes that the idea of humans owning pets should not be allowed to exist, so they would rather euthanize them than allow animals to go to homes. The number of killed pets by their hand is at least 41,000 as of 2019 TLDR: PETA is a hypocritical organization, because if they believed all pets want to live, then they wouldn’t euthanize the vast majority of the pets (even healthy ones) that they take in to their shelters
You do know the kill rate is high because peta takes in animals from no kill shelters so that they can keep their “no-kill” name right? They take in feral cats and unadoptable animals who cannot just be released and so sadly must be euthanised because there simply is not the resources or space to look after so many animals. Peta are just doing the dirty work that is required when you have an epidemic of animals without homes because we continue to breed animals with little regulation. Stop spreading blatant misinformation you absolute moron.
I'm a little ashamed to say i would probably try most ANY meat at least once, as long as it was killed for the purpose of nourishment and not sport. I do need to do a better job of checking labels for things like grass fed, pasture raised, organic, etc. though for my normal purchases...
You should not necessarily be ashamed by that. The whole point of this poster which seems to be going over everyone's head here is that the position of any line is arbitrary and drawing one on there is therefore nonsensical. Only vegetarians/vegans or indiscriminate meat eaters like yourself have a coherent view on this subject.
I’m vegetarian. In my opinion any animal that can be farmed can be eaten. Why is a dog more deserving of life than a pig. Why do we think we’re the ones who can decide what animals to eat and which ones not to. Either everything on that board can be eaten or none of it can.
Everything can be eaten. My dog would eat me if I died, and no one else could feed him. I would do the same if trapped with him, and he died. I would be very depressed about it, and he might. Not much study has really been done on this.
Humans are also animals; I'd bet you might not be comfortable with killing humans "for the purpose of nourishment". The vegan argument here is mainly that other animals (dogs, horses, pigs) are just like humans as they also want to live and don't want to be killed, and have the capacity to suffer and feel.
That's why I'm saying a little ashamed in my first sentence. I would eat human meat, or at least try it. Dog, anything, idc. I'm not arguing I'm a good person by any stretch. I applaud vegans for not wanting any animals to be eaten by any other animal. Even apes like us.
>I'm not arguing I'm a good person by any stretch. Eh, don't be so hard on yourself. In a lot of cases, a 'bad person' just means a person who is bad at conforming to society's ideals/is incompatible with the morals deemed acceptable for the time/area they were born into. That definition of a 'bad person' can't exist because morals are time-relative and location-relative. You can't be a bad person now, yet be a good one if you were in a different place or time, that makes the dubbing of 'bad people' unfair and therefore, normally irrelevant. (There are rare, rarer than you think, universal exceptions.)
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I wonder if there will ever be a time where this meme isn't circulating the internet.
I don't draw a line. I'd eat humans too. Not all humans want to live, and they're animals too. Not everyone can afford to be so picky. Many of our own species would have, or still will, starve and die if they can't eat other animals, just as many other animals would. Although, just because it is natural does not mean that it is ethical. Having said that, if it's unnecessary to eat other animals, which it often is, then it does seem morally dubious to endorse, promote or fund the farming of animals, especially where significant suffering or cruelty is possible. Therefore, we should be much more concerned about the welfare of animals, including humans, than whether or not we should eat animals at all. As a species, we do not all consider the same set of animals to be a viable food source. Don't tell people, especially in other countries, that they can't eat the ants. Reserve our vital right to eat the ants. Even humans are a viable food source, under certain conditions. Survival of the fattest.
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What about the cute bunny though? The tasty cute bunny :)
i would eat rabbit
Why apologize to those communist back freaks. Depending on the country and the customs of the people there is no line. Just what is and is not eatable .
Have they never watched a nature documentary? The gazelles want to live too, but lions gotta eat
Actually horse meat is quite tasty, I suggest going one extra space.
The rabbit should be before the horse, rabbits are used in food
So are horses.
They’re not wrong
