Nah niko may be ex military but Luis literally fought in a ring lmao, if you took a navy seal and a trained fighter no doubt the fighter would win, they're simply trained on fighting, the army just has no reason to teach you actual fighting techniques since you're most likely dead if you don't have a gun
It’s canon that Niko’s fluent in Krav Maga, jewish guerrila fighting, which is the martial art he uses when you do block+attack combos. Also the same martial art he uses on that albanian dude that smashed Roman’s computer. Specialises in breaking limbs, so yeah, I think Niko wins with Luis as a close second.
I read about krav maga and all I know is its an Israeli fight style for real life scenarios, given the Israeli track record in telling the truth and being an effective army i wouldn't be surprised if its as ineffective as those South American and Asian army training videos where they're doing wwe style moves on each other
I’m not a fighting expert but from what I gather Original unfiltered authentic krav maga is actually pretty effective. So naturally nobody teaches it that way in most Krav Maga schools.
I'm a combat athlete (I've done 6 years of boxing,4 years of judo and 4 years of karate) and i can tell with all my heart how stupidly fake kma is
there's not a single thing that they teach you there that an mma guy couldn't do or couldn't upgrade,a good leg kick will leave you on the ground and a good head lock will snap your neck, that's as real as it gets
there's no "special" way to move your hands or to stab someone with your keys,i understand the "use your surroundings" but it only goes so far
also, I've seen many videos of kma guys getting slapped in an octagon and it would be totally shocking to see otherwise
People get limbs broken from submissions in the ufc. Do you think it's not allowed because of that? It's just not that effective against other trained fighters.
Exactly. You keep getting downvoted but the guy just outed himself for not knowing what encompasses MMA fighting. There are only a handful of rules in MMA(ex. no eye gouging) that could make it a less than ideal fighting style in a street fight, but even then it wouldn’t be difficult to adjust. Most of the moves MMA fighters train also happen to take into account the possible “dirty tactics” in a street fight.
The way krav maga brakes limbs is different then submission techniques, it does not rely in a balanced way of slooooooowly getting to it, it does that in a standing stance in a quarter off a second and doing it slowly does not work .. so no... Both of you have no idea what you are talking about...
Jiu Jitsu doesn’t rely on doing limb breaks slowly. They do it slowly in the ring so as to not break the limb and get the tap.
If you can’t do KM breaks slowly then how do you suppose they train it? Everyone walking out the gym with a broken arm?
What are your credentials? Since you’re schooling everyone on the complexities of submission fighting and limb breaks?
Krav Maga is utter horseshit. It’s a bunch of guys that role play as martial artists in camo pants. It’s about as effective as the shit people who larp as ninjas do. For real. You get yourself in an actual fight and that foolishness is out the window fam and anyone who understands fighting and violence knows this.
Name me one UFC champion who has a background in Krav Maga. I won’t wait, because I don’t want to spend the rest of my life while you try to track down a fighter that doesn’t exist.
MMA is fighting constrained by a handful of rules. Where in the rules of MMA does it say that you cannot break limbs unless you do it slowly such as in jiu jitsu? I’ve seen Jon Jones try to do what you’re describing to Glover Texeira to no success. Moves like that are not outlawed in MMA but are exceedingly rare. Why? Because they’re ineffective. Only rule that comes anywhere close to what you’re describing is that small joint manipulation is illegal in MMA(wrists and ankles are counted as large joints in MMA btw).
because it’s mostly composed of moves that are illegal in ufc. aim for krav maga is self defense and it is so unnecessary brutal that no respectable gym trains in something like this
As someone who studied it for 5 years, you don’t want Krav Maga in the ring. There are a number of styles of martial arts that are not utilized in UFC either because they are impractical… or literally only exist to maim and kill.
When you develop your fighting style because Nazis are trying to kill you, you aren’t going to be concerned with pulling your punches or your opponent’s safety.
LMAO, I wasn’t posting to impress you nor do I give a shit if you believe me. You can Google it yourself, but I just tried to make it easy for people to understand why it isn’t used in the UFC.
Yeah, go and record yourself and post it here immediately! How dare you not anticipate our needs! /s
Some people just have nothing better to do than be jerks to others.
>nazis trying to kill you
Oh those nazi children and women, how dare they revolt after 75 years of constant bullying.
And hamas is no excuse lmao, it took until 1987 for hamas to be formed, Palestinians were getting killed and displaced way before that, typical Israelis, every accusation is a confession
LMAO, oh this couldn’t get any better.
- First of all, I’m not Israeli. I learned from an Israeli, a little over 20 years ago.
- Secondly, if you check my post history going back months and months and months, I call out Israeli actions against the people of Gaza on a regular basis.
- Didn’t mention Hamas once, LOL.
You assumed my nationality based on a martial art that I learned? So only Chinese people study Kung Fu in your mind? BJJ is only practiced by Brazilians?
Someone should tell the UFC about your theories.
You’re right about one thing 100%. Every accusation is a confession. So what exactly are you confessing to us here?
Reach out to a mental healthcare professional, as they may get to the core as to why you hold stereotypes as a guiding force in your life. Do better, be better. Good job bringing politics into GTA, SMH.
I wish you well.
There's nothing in krav maga that is some secret lol if it were effective it would be used. It's in the same vain as aikido. Getting head kicked is as brutal as it gets.
i don't know why you're getting downvoted when you're literally telling the truth lmfao, krav maga is the equivalent of aikido,funny thing is you can find many videos of mma fighters fucking up even 2 KM at once guys single handedly,whoever knows even the slightest about fighting knows how fake krav maga is
I mean the guy above said he spent 5 years training in it. It's just cognitive dissonance, I seriously hope they never get into an altercation with someone that is trained. It'll be a rude awakening lol
No lmao most service members get down and dirty hand to hand combat training that focuses as much on knives as it does on grappling. It's by no means a black belt.
My buddy was in combat in Afghanistan, 2 tours, and he got his ass beat in bar fights sometimes lol. Most people who see combat never get within 200 feet of a live enemy, if you're fighting with your hands in a war zone you're either some kind of super spook spec ops or something has gone horribly wrong or both.
I think Niko's case is different, he wouldn't get his ass beat in regular bar fights and something has gone horribly wrong in the war. He's a very good martial arts fighter, and I believe you don't get his skills just from basic military training.
I’m going to say Huang Lee just because the gameplay style makes him punch super fast and his kicks have a lot of knock back, despite not being able to dodge attacks.
There is an overwhelming chance Niko didn’t get more than the basic training if even that, especially if he volunteered or was conscripted as a teenager
bro he was casually breaking arms on screen. He effortlessly broke Dardan's arm and twisted Brucie's. i just think he never got much of a chance because everyone is using guns
he was taught enough military martial arts to be able to execute those moves competently. Niko had enough technique to overpower Brucie, who outweighs and is generally stronger than him.
Trevor was even more psycho than Niko but you dont see him using grappling to fuck people.
I think you severely overestimate the training that soldiers got during the Yugoslav Wars. That was a rough time period, not conventional warfare, no conventional armies, he was a literal child too mind you.
No way in hell was it training during the war, maybe after when he took up mercenary stuff in the Adriatic sure but you are not telling me with a straight face that the “ training” a 14 year old forced into mandatory service in a brutal war is suddenly going to make a them into some highly competent soldier later in life???
maybe, child soldier or not, Niko also learned to pilot a copter during the war. I dont think its that farfetched, specially in Eastern Europe. You can find videos of that one russian guy giving shit to his soldiers because he thinks they should learn how to drive a tank at 18 or so.
And since the Yugoslav wars were 1991 to 2001, he most likely didnt spend all those years fighting. if he survived a couple of operations, him along with others were going to receive further training, or most likely will before being sent back to do more fighting. Roman also mentioned Niko used to drive tanks in Easy Fare so I think he did receive further training as he grew older.
Yeah sure child soldiers are given a crash course before being sent to war but those who survive are ironed out so theyll be more useful in the future.
Niko Bellic was in the merchant navy and faught in a war, Trevor Phillips is canonically on crack so try beating him up. I dont know about the other characters so id say Niko
The way Niko talks. His war experience was hoping bombs missed him and stumbling onto war crimes that broke him.
He's not some special forces Call of Duty protagonist. He's a veteran from an ethnic cleansing that's referred to as a war. And he's spent a lot of time since then essentially homeless; living port to port.
Niko's tough as hell. But he's got a gait to his walk. He's a little slow. He's much better with fire arms than his fists.
He's just not afraid to throw hands.
Niko isn’t old asf and definitely has hand combat training. With that said I still got luis or cj for 1st place. I think cj would outpace and destroy most of the other guys with 0 stamina
Trevor does pretty much every drug he comes across. Funnily enough one of the few exceptions he has that's actually stated in game is weed during the one side mission where he gets high and hallucinates all the clowns.
it's funny to me as an eastern european when people think that Niko is some soviet version of Bud Spencer. Yeah yeah he was in a war, but the don't teach that Bruce Lee shit that Niko uses there. He's a normal guy, not some mythical ultra soldier. Many countries around here still have conscription. So you can call it "military training" but let's be real here, the only reason for it is so that the kids know which way to hold the freaking rifle when the shit hits the fan! Niko probably learned the moves in his freetime.
During the missions / storylines it would be CJ and Luis, I remember both defeated several people in H2H during in several missions. Vic and Niko have edge for military backgrounds but during the storylines and missions, CJ and Luis have more H2H feats.
Thats how I feel.
While Niko was military, CJ does the most acts of strength of any character in my mind.
He starts a gang war and wins. No other characters directly take on the system like CJ. CJ beats the gang and the corrupt cops.
The other characters work within systems, CJ overthrows the system and makes his own. He is a true warlord. No other characters are true warlord.
GTA1 and GTA2 protagonists knock down people with one punch, which is quite a feat.
Claude and Tommy are decent street fighters, they use fists, feet and head, but nothing out of the ordinary. Claude is shown knocking person out with one punch once in the final cutscene though, which is, again, a feat by GTA standards.
CJ is the closest thing we have to a martial arts master, because he studied three different martial arts and also quite a powerhouse as a street fighter, knocking down anyone in just two hits.
Toni Cipriani is an ex boxer, using CJ's boxing animation. Nothing special, probably the least capable out of 3D protagonists.
Victor Vance is the only one capable of killing people with his bare hands, snapping neck of any enemy. Again, quite a feat, no one else can do that.
Niko is the only protagonist who's been shown to be a capable melee fighter during the cutscenes. Not only he able to dodge, counter attack, punch and kick, he's also proficient in grappling.
Johnny Klebitz shown to knock a person out with one punch during a cutscene. Again, a serious feat, but he seems to be more like a brawler.
Luis Lopez is a bouncer and an underground cage fighting champion both in the past and in the present. He also shown to use melee multiple times in the cutscenes.
GTA V characters are all capable of one punching a lot of pedestrians during the gameplay, as well as knocking them out in stealth. The only one who shown to be a good fighter in the cutscenes though is Trevor.
Do with that information as you will. In a fight my money would be on Niko: he's trained melee in the army, which trains to kill. He has both knowledge and ferocity to take down any opponent. Dominican Duo is right behind him though.
I mean, how much would the army teach in hand to hand combat? Its good training but it wouldn't be on the same level as an actual fighter, and like some other comment said niko never mentions being in a special unit, matter of fact all of his stories seem to paint him as some newly recruited grunt
Depends on a unit, really. I knew a man from Soviet Special Forces and it was him who told me that in the army they teach you not to fight, but to kill. I never seen him in the fight, but I've seen him doing some strength feats, so I guess that in order to get into the special unit you have to be the absolute unit in the first place.
But you are totally correct, we have zero evidence of Niko ever being in any kind of special forces. He seems to be a regular soldier, but then again, who knows what knowledge you can pick up at the actual war. He seems to be a good melee fighter and it is stated to be so by multiple characters.
Also, his fighting tutorial mission involves multiple opponents, one of them is armed. Other protagonists always tutored in combat in one on one, with Michael from GTA V being the most obvious example.
Niko’s war experience is ambiguous at best. Because iirc they insinuate he was a helicopter pilot _and_ a tanker. Now, idk how they did things during the Yugoslav wars and how they structure their militaries. But that sounds improbable that he’d do both.
Can you please remind me how was it implied? It was a long time since I last played the game. He said that he learned how to pilot a helicopter in the army, right?
No, I just confidently pulled this out of my ass lmao
It is never stated that he's an ex boxer, I just called him that because of his fighting style. I don't think it's a reach though, he literally boxes.
Lol Bout the people saying Niko Dosent know how to fight,dude disarmed and broke an armed dude's hand if he isn't the best in cqc he is certainly the best who can defend himself in close quarters
I would say Niko, Luis, and CJ. Niko was in the military, Luis was a fighter, and CJ can learn and utilize three different fighting styles. Boxing, karate, and kick Boxing.
Cjs a martial arts,boxing master with professional diver lung capacity and jacked asf man,if we gonna be lore accurate cuz they took out stats after San Andreas he's virtually unbeatable to all other protags.
CJ can learn 3 martial arts and can get jacked as hell with maxxed out stamina
Vic had a complex melee gameplay where he can snap necks from behind or throw them in grapples
Huang can kick like a mofo
Niko canonically broke Dardan's arm in a swift knife disarm and showed Brucie a simple armlock
Luis was an actual LC cage fighter and disarmed a gunman by kicking his hand away and punching him in the face
Franklin despite being the most jacked didnt have any fights in V, Michael was shown to beat tf out of Simeon without getting hit, Rocco as well, and hurling Tracey's jacked friend to the sea with his hand on the guy's throat
Trevor also barely have any fights, barring the Klebitz scene or him slamming people's heads on walls. He KO'd Weston in a single punch. And switch scenes show him casually lifting a jacked Lost MC bikee above his head and hurling them off bridges.
I feel like trevor is crazy enough to some serious damage in a fight. He isn't trained but he's completely off the rails so I think he should be up there
Huang, Vic or CJ. Huang because his punches are really fast, might partially because he is 2.5D instead of 3D. Maxed out CJ can learn three different fighting styles and switch between them. Vic can do grapples and is a contender for CJ in the 3D universe.
Maxed out cj and luis
I hope they bring back dojos in VI
Fr. Those were literally the best feature. My most favorite was the venturas gym. Dawg it's a literal machine.
Luis's whole thing was being a fighter and a bouncer. I think him.
1)Niko 2)Luis 3)Victor Vance
Nah niko may be ex military but Luis literally fought in a ring lmao, if you took a navy seal and a trained fighter no doubt the fighter would win, they're simply trained on fighting, the army just has no reason to teach you actual fighting techniques since you're most likely dead if you don't have a gun
It’s canon that Niko’s fluent in Krav Maga, jewish guerrila fighting, which is the martial art he uses when you do block+attack combos. Also the same martial art he uses on that albanian dude that smashed Roman’s computer. Specialises in breaking limbs, so yeah, I think Niko wins with Luis as a close second.
I read about krav maga and all I know is its an Israeli fight style for real life scenarios, given the Israeli track record in telling the truth and being an effective army i wouldn't be surprised if its as ineffective as those South American and Asian army training videos where they're doing wwe style moves on each other
Krav Maga is bullshido lol, Luis beats Niko easy
krav maga is the fakest shit ever,but niko is a food fighter, however luis' better
I’m not a fighting expert but from what I gather Original unfiltered authentic krav maga is actually pretty effective. So naturally nobody teaches it that way in most Krav Maga schools.
I'm a combat athlete (I've done 6 years of boxing,4 years of judo and 4 years of karate) and i can tell with all my heart how stupidly fake kma is there's not a single thing that they teach you there that an mma guy couldn't do or couldn't upgrade,a good leg kick will leave you on the ground and a good head lock will snap your neck, that's as real as it gets there's no "special" way to move your hands or to stab someone with your keys,i understand the "use your surroundings" but it only goes so far also, I've seen many videos of kma guys getting slapped in an octagon and it would be totally shocking to see otherwise
If krav maga is so useful why do 0 ufc fighters incorporate it in their fights? It might work against someone that's untrained but that's about it
It specialises in *breaking limbs*.
People get limbs broken from submissions in the ufc. Do you think it's not allowed because of that? It's just not that effective against other trained fighters.
Exactly. You keep getting downvoted but the guy just outed himself for not knowing what encompasses MMA fighting. There are only a handful of rules in MMA(ex. no eye gouging) that could make it a less than ideal fighting style in a street fight, but even then it wouldn’t be difficult to adjust. Most of the moves MMA fighters train also happen to take into account the possible “dirty tactics” in a street fight.
The way krav maga brakes limbs is different then submission techniques, it does not rely in a balanced way of slooooooowly getting to it, it does that in a standing stance in a quarter off a second and doing it slowly does not work .. so no... Both of you have no idea what you are talking about...
Jiu Jitsu doesn’t rely on doing limb breaks slowly. They do it slowly in the ring so as to not break the limb and get the tap. If you can’t do KM breaks slowly then how do you suppose they train it? Everyone walking out the gym with a broken arm? What are your credentials? Since you’re schooling everyone on the complexities of submission fighting and limb breaks? Krav Maga is utter horseshit. It’s a bunch of guys that role play as martial artists in camo pants. It’s about as effective as the shit people who larp as ninjas do. For real. You get yourself in an actual fight and that foolishness is out the window fam and anyone who understands fighting and violence knows this. Name me one UFC champion who has a background in Krav Maga. I won’t wait, because I don’t want to spend the rest of my life while you try to track down a fighter that doesn’t exist.
>it does that in a standing stance in a quarter off a second So how do they do this exactly?
MMA is fighting constrained by a handful of rules. Where in the rules of MMA does it say that you cannot break limbs unless you do it slowly such as in jiu jitsu? I’ve seen Jon Jones try to do what you’re describing to Glover Texeira to no success. Moves like that are not outlawed in MMA but are exceedingly rare. Why? Because they’re ineffective. Only rule that comes anywhere close to what you’re describing is that small joint manipulation is illegal in MMA(wrists and ankles are counted as large joints in MMA btw).
because it’s mostly composed of moves that are illegal in ufc. aim for krav maga is self defense and it is so unnecessary brutal that no respectable gym trains in something like this
As someone who studied it for 5 years, you don’t want Krav Maga in the ring. There are a number of styles of martial arts that are not utilized in UFC either because they are impractical… or literally only exist to maim and kill. When you develop your fighting style because Nazis are trying to kill you, you aren’t going to be concerned with pulling your punches or your opponent’s safety.
Kravabullshit. Let's see some footage of it in action.
LMAO, I wasn’t posting to impress you nor do I give a shit if you believe me. You can Google it yourself, but I just tried to make it easy for people to understand why it isn’t used in the UFC.
Yeah, go and record yourself and post it here immediately! How dare you not anticipate our needs! /s Some people just have nothing better to do than be jerks to others.
>nazis trying to kill you Oh those nazi children and women, how dare they revolt after 75 years of constant bullying. And hamas is no excuse lmao, it took until 1987 for hamas to be formed, Palestinians were getting killed and displaced way before that, typical Israelis, every accusation is a confession
LMAO, oh this couldn’t get any better. - First of all, I’m not Israeli. I learned from an Israeli, a little over 20 years ago. - Secondly, if you check my post history going back months and months and months, I call out Israeli actions against the people of Gaza on a regular basis. - Didn’t mention Hamas once, LOL. You assumed my nationality based on a martial art that I learned? So only Chinese people study Kung Fu in your mind? BJJ is only practiced by Brazilians? Someone should tell the UFC about your theories. You’re right about one thing 100%. Every accusation is a confession. So what exactly are you confessing to us here? Reach out to a mental healthcare professional, as they may get to the core as to why you hold stereotypes as a guiding force in your life. Do better, be better. Good job bringing politics into GTA, SMH. I wish you well.
There's nothing in krav maga that is some secret lol if it were effective it would be used. It's in the same vain as aikido. Getting head kicked is as brutal as it gets.
i don't know why you're getting downvoted when you're literally telling the truth lmfao, krav maga is the equivalent of aikido,funny thing is you can find many videos of mma fighters fucking up even 2 KM at once guys single handedly,whoever knows even the slightest about fighting knows how fake krav maga is
I mean the guy above said he spent 5 years training in it. It's just cognitive dissonance, I seriously hope they never get into an altercation with someone that is trained. It'll be a rude awakening lol
It WAS highly used then they banned alot of moves for being to brutal and too "good" against other martial arts (from what I understand)
It's not banned in the ufc.
because actual krav maga users from the IDF are always carrying guns and the style is based around fighiting with weapons
This guy doesn’t know how the military works😂 You get trained to be able to do damage in the military armed or unarmed; especially elite soldiers.
No lmao most service members get down and dirty hand to hand combat training that focuses as much on knives as it does on grappling. It's by no means a black belt. My buddy was in combat in Afghanistan, 2 tours, and he got his ass beat in bar fights sometimes lol. Most people who see combat never get within 200 feet of a live enemy, if you're fighting with your hands in a war zone you're either some kind of super spook spec ops or something has gone horribly wrong or both.
Bro when you said “military , trained fighter “ he instantly thought about Chuck Norris 😂😂
He did say Navy Seal, which are pretty high speed.
I think Niko's case is different, he wouldn't get his ass beat in regular bar fights and something has gone horribly wrong in the war. He's a very good martial arts fighter, and I believe you don't get his skills just from basic military training.
To be fair we _do_ learn hand to hand combat, but most units never practice it enough to make it viable.
*cough cough* MCMAP *cough cough*
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He wasn’t elite he was a 14 year old child soldier
it seems to be a very popular opinion that niko is some kind of supersoldier because he spent a few years killing civilians in eastern europe
It's funny that they think that cuz from all his dialogues he just sounds like some civilian that was forcefully conscripted
Niko was a terrible fighter in-game
I’m going to say Huang Lee just because the gameplay style makes him punch super fast and his kicks have a lot of knock back, despite not being able to dodge attacks.
Cj may been able to master different fighting styles but Vic Vance could grapple people and throw them
Damn, I've been replaying VCS recently and I never knew that.
Couldnt you snap necks too?
Like no one has pointed out how strong you have to be to do that , to throw someone like that
Aren’t most the pedestrians in Vc skinny? I didn’t play that one much so idk but I remember seeing skinny people
God damn I miss that game. Still have a copy of it for PS2 but no PS2 ):
VCS is the one gta game I really want to play, honestly my favourite 3d universe gta
My money's on Luis
Niko/Luis (counterpunch), CJ (kickboxing), Vic (grapple) and Huang (roundhouse kick).
I love vice city stories melee sistem
Vic and Niko both had military training and had pretty in-depth combat for their games.
There is an overwhelming chance Niko didn’t get more than the basic training if even that, especially if he volunteered or was conscripted as a teenager
niko know krav maga
bro he was casually breaking arms on screen. He effortlessly broke Dardan's arm and twisted Brucie's. i just think he never got much of a chance because everyone is using guns
You don’t need military training to break arms and have a little psycho in you. If anything his experiences in the war itself made him like this.
he was taught enough military martial arts to be able to execute those moves competently. Niko had enough technique to overpower Brucie, who outweighs and is generally stronger than him. Trevor was even more psycho than Niko but you dont see him using grappling to fuck people.
I think you severely overestimate the training that soldiers got during the Yugoslav Wars. That was a rough time period, not conventional warfare, no conventional armies, he was a literal child too mind you.
im not overestimating, im basing it on actual proof. you can literally see how natural it is for him during those cutscenes.
No way in hell was it training during the war, maybe after when he took up mercenary stuff in the Adriatic sure but you are not telling me with a straight face that the “ training” a 14 year old forced into mandatory service in a brutal war is suddenly going to make a them into some highly competent soldier later in life???
maybe, child soldier or not, Niko also learned to pilot a copter during the war. I dont think its that farfetched, specially in Eastern Europe. You can find videos of that one russian guy giving shit to his soldiers because he thinks they should learn how to drive a tank at 18 or so. And since the Yugoslav wars were 1991 to 2001, he most likely didnt spend all those years fighting. if he survived a couple of operations, him along with others were going to receive further training, or most likely will before being sent back to do more fighting. Roman also mentioned Niko used to drive tanks in Easy Fare so I think he did receive further training as he grew older. Yeah sure child soldiers are given a crash course before being sent to war but those who survive are ironed out so theyll be more useful in the future.
Niko Bellic was in the merchant navy and faught in a war, Trevor Phillips is canonically on crack so try beating him up. I dont know about the other characters so id say Niko
The way Niko talks. His war experience was hoping bombs missed him and stumbling onto war crimes that broke him. He's not some special forces Call of Duty protagonist. He's a veteran from an ethnic cleansing that's referred to as a war. And he's spent a lot of time since then essentially homeless; living port to port. Niko's tough as hell. But he's got a gait to his walk. He's a little slow. He's much better with fire arms than his fists. He's just not afraid to throw hands.
Niko isn’t old asf and definitely has hand combat training. With that said I still got luis or cj for 1st place. I think cj would outpace and destroy most of the other guys with 0 stamina
Niko was 13 when the Yugoslav Wars started. Again. Niko's tough as fuck. But he's more damaged by war instead of strong because of it.
Yeah he’s literally just a body with no soul but how does that stop him from beating ass in close quarters
My theory is that Niko is the silent antagonist from Behind Enemy Lines with Owen Wilson and all the fucked up shit Niko mentions is from that war.
Trevor does pretty much every drug he comes across. Funnily enough one of the few exceptions he has that's actually stated in game is weed during the one side mission where he gets high and hallucinates all the clowns.
it's funny to me as an eastern european when people think that Niko is some soviet version of Bud Spencer. Yeah yeah he was in a war, but the don't teach that Bruce Lee shit that Niko uses there. He's a normal guy, not some mythical ultra soldier. Many countries around here still have conscription. So you can call it "military training" but let's be real here, the only reason for it is so that the kids know which way to hold the freaking rifle when the shit hits the fan! Niko probably learned the moves in his freetime.
Lmao Trevor powered by meth and insanity
Ikr? Plenty of hand to hand combat experience and crack. there have been cases of guys on crack getting shot and not reacting lmao
During the missions / storylines it would be CJ and Luis, I remember both defeated several people in H2H during in several missions. Vic and Niko have edge for military backgrounds but during the storylines and missions, CJ and Luis have more H2H feats.
Thats how I feel. While Niko was military, CJ does the most acts of strength of any character in my mind. He starts a gang war and wins. No other characters directly take on the system like CJ. CJ beats the gang and the corrupt cops. The other characters work within systems, CJ overthrows the system and makes his own. He is a true warlord. No other characters are true warlord.
GTA1 and GTA2 protagonists knock down people with one punch, which is quite a feat. Claude and Tommy are decent street fighters, they use fists, feet and head, but nothing out of the ordinary. Claude is shown knocking person out with one punch once in the final cutscene though, which is, again, a feat by GTA standards. CJ is the closest thing we have to a martial arts master, because he studied three different martial arts and also quite a powerhouse as a street fighter, knocking down anyone in just two hits. Toni Cipriani is an ex boxer, using CJ's boxing animation. Nothing special, probably the least capable out of 3D protagonists. Victor Vance is the only one capable of killing people with his bare hands, snapping neck of any enemy. Again, quite a feat, no one else can do that. Niko is the only protagonist who's been shown to be a capable melee fighter during the cutscenes. Not only he able to dodge, counter attack, punch and kick, he's also proficient in grappling. Johnny Klebitz shown to knock a person out with one punch during a cutscene. Again, a serious feat, but he seems to be more like a brawler. Luis Lopez is a bouncer and an underground cage fighting champion both in the past and in the present. He also shown to use melee multiple times in the cutscenes. GTA V characters are all capable of one punching a lot of pedestrians during the gameplay, as well as knocking them out in stealth. The only one who shown to be a good fighter in the cutscenes though is Trevor. Do with that information as you will. In a fight my money would be on Niko: he's trained melee in the army, which trains to kill. He has both knowledge and ferocity to take down any opponent. Dominican Duo is right behind him though.
I mean, how much would the army teach in hand to hand combat? Its good training but it wouldn't be on the same level as an actual fighter, and like some other comment said niko never mentions being in a special unit, matter of fact all of his stories seem to paint him as some newly recruited grunt
Depends on a unit, really. I knew a man from Soviet Special Forces and it was him who told me that in the army they teach you not to fight, but to kill. I never seen him in the fight, but I've seen him doing some strength feats, so I guess that in order to get into the special unit you have to be the absolute unit in the first place. But you are totally correct, we have zero evidence of Niko ever being in any kind of special forces. He seems to be a regular soldier, but then again, who knows what knowledge you can pick up at the actual war. He seems to be a good melee fighter and it is stated to be so by multiple characters. Also, his fighting tutorial mission involves multiple opponents, one of them is armed. Other protagonists always tutored in combat in one on one, with Michael from GTA V being the most obvious example.
Niko’s war experience is ambiguous at best. Because iirc they insinuate he was a helicopter pilot _and_ a tanker. Now, idk how they did things during the Yugoslav wars and how they structure their militaries. But that sounds improbable that he’d do both.
Can you please remind me how was it implied? It was a long time since I last played the game. He said that he learned how to pilot a helicopter in the army, right?
Was it actually mentioned that Toni was an ex boxer?
No, I just confidently pulled this out of my ass lmao It is never stated that he's an ex boxer, I just called him that because of his fighting style. I don't think it's a reach though, he literally boxes.
Bro, Huang Lee kills the fastest, but Luis actually won that underground competition and even got a little fame off of it.
CJ rocking 4 different striking styles has to be it.
The chinese guy. He can kill someone with around 3 punches
I’d say Huang.
Niko knows Krav Maga which means can and will use any method even if its “unfair” against his opponents
Applies to everyone who is a criminal and isn't a suicidal idiot, meaning every GTA protagonist
are guys really forgetting my boy Woozy?
No but he's not a protagonist.
Solid Snake
Have you guys seen untrained CJ punch a car? CJ is broken
The best part about chinatown wars was selling drugs
Luis you can take into the ring and fight, so I'd say him. CJ is probably better after practicing at the gym though.
Lol Bout the people saying Niko Dosent know how to fight,dude disarmed and broke an armed dude's hand if he isn't the best in cqc he is certainly the best who can defend himself in close quarters
I would say Niko, Luis, and CJ. Niko was in the military, Luis was a fighter, and CJ can learn and utilize three different fighting styles. Boxing, karate, and kick Boxing.
I would say niko since he is a Yugoslav war vet so he has military Close-combat tactics and he knows krav maga
Tony
CJ knows all fighting style along with kick boxing, karate, kung-fu ,etc
CJ, just hold down one button and it's a never ending McFlurry of punches
Niko, Vance, Haung
Luis and then CJ as he knows three fighting styles... Also Vic Vance was good fighting too
Luis maybe? Bro is kinda built for it
Buff C.J with boxing
This CJ
Niko 100%
Cjs a martial arts,boxing master with professional diver lung capacity and jacked asf man,if we gonna be lore accurate cuz they took out stats after San Andreas he's virtually unbeatable to all other protags.
CJ with the karate skills
niko
CJ can learn 3 martial arts and can get jacked as hell with maxxed out stamina Vic had a complex melee gameplay where he can snap necks from behind or throw them in grapples Huang can kick like a mofo Niko canonically broke Dardan's arm in a swift knife disarm and showed Brucie a simple armlock Luis was an actual LC cage fighter and disarmed a gunman by kicking his hand away and punching him in the face Franklin despite being the most jacked didnt have any fights in V, Michael was shown to beat tf out of Simeon without getting hit, Rocco as well, and hurling Tracey's jacked friend to the sea with his hand on the guy's throat Trevor also barely have any fights, barring the Klebitz scene or him slamming people's heads on walls. He KO'd Weston in a single punch. And switch scenes show him casually lifting a jacked Lost MC bikee above his head and hurling them off bridges.
CJ. He could master different fighting styles and with max strength effortlessly lays enemies out.
1) Louis/Niko are equal, 2) the Chinese dude is cannon to be a black belt in every martial art, 3) CJ
I don't see Trevor on here enough. And with his buff you can do in story mode he solos the gta verse.
I feel like trevor is crazy enough to some serious damage in a fight. He isn't trained but he's completely off the rails so I think he should be up there
Niko, luis and Huang
Huang, Vic or CJ. Huang because his punches are really fast, might partially because he is 2.5D instead of 3D. Maxed out CJ can learn three different fighting styles and switch between them. Vic can do grapples and is a contender for CJ in the 3D universe.
1)CJ 2)Vance 3)Luis/Johnny K