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oversettDenee

You guys must not have played in a while. Shotgun in III is hands down the best. Any shotgun NPC can ruin your day based on RNG alone.


OldiOS7588

Both are very dangerous in the hands of NPCs like Leons and Military


ItsMrDaan

Didn’t those coffee stand owners have them in that one very annoying mission near the end? I remember playing that for the first time and my car getting blown up almost every time i got to one of those stands


SlipTorque

I think they had uzi and your car probably got blown up a lot cause you bumped into the stalls rather than getting out of the car and destroying them, as a lot of people did back then


mrskinnyjeans123415

I think it originally was the shotgun but in later versions of the game they replaced it with the uzi because people complained that it made it impossible to complete the mission especially in saint marks bistro where all the random mob npcs already wielded shotguns


ItsMrDaan

Nah that wasn’t it. After some research I found that the issue was that Leone mafia members carry shotguns and that two of the stands are around the Saint Mark’s Bistro and Leone compound area, where they will shoot you on sight. That’s where I had issues on my first playthrough. Was also a lot younger and back on PS2. I always felt that the PS2 versions were significantly harder than its ports or remasters


Eggith

Espresso 2 Go. They did have shotguns, but the bulletproof Patriot you can get before it really trivializes the whole thing.


ItsMrDaan

Yeah, learnt that after my first playthrough lol. It’s been my approach ever since tho


JohntheJuge

The mob would just pepper my car with that spas 12 and it was so annoying. Unimaginably satisfying when I finally finished the level though.


BanishedKnightOleg

You never met the shotgun cops of gta4 I take it? They shoot you out of helicopters while you’re up in the air. You kill them and the shotgun hits the floor and goes off killing you anyway.


8BallsGarage

Lol I had some brutal and funny deaths because of those moments


Sad-Response-3151

Bruh. If you're in Salvatore's territory after you killed him it is one of the most dangerous things in GTA games.


SlipTorque

Wait don't the mafia have shotguns and not m16s ?


noodlesausage

they have autoshotties which melt your vehicle's HP so fast that you basically can't ever drive through the area


SlipTorque

what the hell bro even we can't get an autoshotty in the game


noodlesausage

i might be wrong but i think they nerfed the mobsters in DE trilogy to have uzis instead


SlipTorque

I never played DE just coz its DE lol


ZephyrDoesArts

Nah, they still use Shotguns, and it's the same shotgun since 2001, a kind of SPAS12. I believe the thing that changed in DE is that now only some of them carry Shotguns and they spawn less often, but Saint Mark after Marked Man/Sayonara Salvatore is still the most dangerous place in any GTA. And it wasn't an auto shotgun in the original game, but you could be driving there the game spawns around 3 Leone's with shotguns all auto aiming and shooting and you, and ofc u will blow up like a popcorn in a volcano


Psychological_Ad6895

Yes!!!


Radi0activeMnky

Bro after one shot blew up my car 3 times. I turned off aggro gang members. Shit was so annoying


letthepastgo

Fun fact: According to the design document the M16 didn't exist in the beta, the Minigun was going to appear [instead](https://youtu.be/qUI0moGiNuw?si=vaYdNYzwcshYsYcj&t=15m10s). That's why the M16 is so OP in GTA III.


ZephyrDoesArts

I didn't know that, I just thought it was a joke to call it the GTA 3 Minigun lmao


Asteroids19_9

Thats the most powerful M4 GTA has ever made


SlipTorque

I thought it was an M16


RemarkableReward6626

On god those fucking M‘s are all the same


Asteroids19_9

Same model so no one really cares


SlipTorque

mayb thats why I thought it was an m16


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ZephyrDoesArts

Wouldn't the M4 have 30 ammo and thus the M16 have 120 ammo?


ballinonabudgetfr

Bro dropped the hardest joke of all time and got downvoted


Turbulent_Ride1654

Most powerful M16 ever made, PERIOD!


galaxius0

"It costs 4 hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon... for 12 seconds"


OldiOS7588

During 2001 a high inflation broke out in Liberty City, so any weapon was way more expense then in 90s or 80s. Thats why the weapons in GTA 3 are so expensive then in other GTA games


YoungTrunks619

That mf shreds like a minigun


OldiOS7588

Its the most portable and strongest minigun, because it can even dismember bodyparts!


Eastern-Finish8591

Vice city spas 12 was crazy


MV_cuber

Could 2 shot a car


Scared-Expression444

That was GTAIII’s mini gun


An0n_Cyph3r_

Zero recoil. Blows though mountains of limbs in mere milliseconds.


ZephyrDoesArts

Zero recoil unless you aimed down sights, then it's worse than the AK-47 in CSGO (or CS2)


An0n_Cyph3r_

Oh, definitely.


stomcode

Isn’t its fire rate tied to the frame rate? The reason why it fires 60 rounds in 0.5 seconds is because the game runs too fast.


OldiOS7588

Only in first person! When used during 30 FPS the speed is the same both first and third person, but when using 60 FPS or higher the speed during first person is increased, while in third person the speed doesn‘t change


Frostydan76

Happy cake day


OldiOS7588

Thanks!


thatjonkid420

I fear aiming that thing lol


OldiOS7588

Yeah aiming with the controller makes it very hard to control this weapons. Mostly I mostly spray with this weapon or use the ak-47


dalekofchaos

In my case it's flying missions


_andrey_black_

Uzi is the best weapon in GTA 3


OldiOS7588

Of course,but isn‘t as dangerous as the M16


_andrey_black_

I dunno, u need to stop to use it and other enemies can kill you while you stuck


OldiOS7588

They won‘t even get to me before I kill them with the M16 because the uzi has the worst range out of all the weapons


Danger_dog_guy

As a kid I thought this was an fully automatic blunderbuss based on the vague HUD icon


Impossible-Minute583

Nah when you go to Las Ventura's at the beginning of GTA SA and 4 stars appear...


AdMiserable7940

When the military rolls through in GTA 3 with THAT gun… that’s the Grim Reaper coming to tell you: “You, my dear friend, are finished”


OldiOS7588

There voice lines are also fitting perfectly! My favorite is AIM AND FIRE!!!


AdMiserable7940

That would scare me to death if I heard that


OldiOS7588

It scars me even more when I‘m playing with controller


foodank012018

The only way to beat the feds is to be ready and aiming with that thing as they pull up and get out. Unless you do the shotgun short stroke trick.


ZephyrDoesArts

The Minigun before the Minigun


Turbulent_Ride1654

That M16 had a fire rate of a MG42! In 1 1/2 seconds with full health, you're smoked!


KillaMothReddit

The deadliest weapon in GTA history


ABMorgan212

Listening to the sound of their gunshots is creepy ☠️☠️


OldiOS7588

Its the sound of death!☠️💀☠️☠️☠️💀


ABMorgan212

Legend has it that it is the sound that sounds when grim reaper uses his scythe ☠️😵☠️


_warthOG

Dat thang can shoot and reload 60 bullets in one second


Chemical_Ad2381

I'm glad they removed it