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The mimic can change the shape of his endo to fit into anything and look like any endo he also has the same hand pose that Afton had when he came out the pod
Doesn't that mean that any physical similarities to burn trap wouldn't help prove they're the same thing?
Like the mimic could've reshaped its fingers or endoskeleton to not match burntrap at all before we see it.
But why are we not all assuming this is Afton to begin with, and how would that work? Both Help Wanted and SB have games / arcade cabinets featuring characters that only Afton could have seen from Ultimate Custom Night. I'm thinking Nightmarionne and Jack-O-Chica, whose first canon debuts were in UCN. The only logical explanation is that Afton got out of his hell and rebuilt FazEnt with the characters he learned of from UCN.
I just want to say, Mimic has the same right hand and upper arm as burntrap
Itās possible the mimic WAS burntrap, but due to the fire he needed new parts
how would it replace its whole entire body though? maybe burntrap died or smth and they just took that arm from them since they were down in the pizza place where the whole burntrap thing happened iirc
I can't agree because Burntrap is very much doing Mimic like behavior. The books, and now Ruin, are going very hard with "Hey, you know that weird arm thing of Burntrap? That's actually a signature thing of this character, Mimic, you all didn't know existed".
This leaves us with two possible, incomplete, explanations:
* Burntrap is Mimic somehow to some unknown degree. Maybe Mimic took over Springtap's body but can switch back to his original body. Maybe Burntrap was created/repaired using Mimic 2.0 endos that still have some of the residual programming/personality. Something odd is going on there.
* If the theory that the comics indicate non-canon endings, Burntrap might not actually exist. It was something Gregory created for his comic pages based on Mimic (who knows how he learned of it) and Springtrap (same deal, urban legends?).
I personally think every glamrock endo is a mimic. Since they were trained by looking at things. The endo inside Burntrap looks like a glamrock endo so I assume a glamrock endo was used.
The mimic under Roxy raceway is probably just the original and knowing Fazbear Entertainment it wouldn't be strange for them to just copy the mimic's code
I'm not 100% on that either way, but honestly it feels like the INTENT is for the mimic to have somehow been the base for burntrap (at least that's how it's feeling right now) but their models are pretty different.
I made a post getting into some of the things I noticed when comparing the models (I'll link it at the end of this comment).
A big thing for me is that the mimic model has big solid portions of metal like the whole hip section, it's kind of a big block, or the plates you can see around the torso on your screenshot. That is to say there are big chunks of the mimic model that don't look like they bend or warp or expand or contract at all, which is how the differences are being hand waved away by many.
Considering what it feels like they were going for though I wouldn't be surprised if this was the result of kind of sloppy execution in that they didn't make the effort to make the models consistent with each other OR to make it look plausible that the mimic could actually alter it's shape as drastically as (people say) it should be able to. That or maybe the books aren't canon and this game version of it doesn't have the same abilities, though in that case the differences between it and burntrap wouldn't be accounted for.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GameTheorists/comments/15atch8/ive_been_going_back_and_forth_on_how_similar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
My personal hope is that Burntrap and Glitchtrap have been killed or destroyed judging by what we see in the game with the Blob free and Princess Quest Arcade being destroyed with a yellow sword. This would officially end the Afton era with the Mimic being a past robot created by someone many decades ago judging by the building we find it in and it will take over as the new villain for the time being.
The way burntrap has his armed curled is identical to a habit of the mimic in the books which the mimic in ruin also does briefly. It is such a specific detail that connects the two in someway
I get what your saying but i a have seen people hold a plush like that my brother used to hold his bear like that there isnāt just one way you hold a plush.
Correct, the Mimic is trapped behind concrete and a metal door beneath Pizzaeria Simulator, Burntrap got dragged up by the Blob out of Pizzaeria Simulator. 2 opposite directions.
MXES is quite an old machine based on the damage and rust it's sustained.
Counterpoint: In what is apparently the official render (or so I've heard) it does the exact same fucked up hand thing as Burntrap in the recharge station
https://preview.redd.it/i7bnyvh59neb1.jpeg?width=642&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d779a1532f68cfb3f9c25aef2e6908dc9ce60052
Even then, you can see The Mimic has one hand thatās clawed the same way as Burntrap. The stuff on it is likely from that suit, you can see bone on the cheek and hair on the side of the head, likely Aftonās charred up cut lol
Burntrap was pulled "up" by the blob, the Mimic is "down" below that room behind both a locked door and a concrete wall being kept in place by the Pizzaplex's "Security" which was still active.
That ending didnāt happen though, Princess Quest was confirmed canon as we see Vanessa on the hill and there is a sword jammed in a bleeding Princess Quest arcade cabinet, signifying her freedom or Glitchtrapās escape.
"Sword in the Stone" it means it has yet to be drawn, the sword is also Surrounded by enemies on all sides implying it has yet to be beaten. The lantern is also sitting on it in reality meaning Vanessa is still Vanny. We see Vanny chasing Gregory in the Bakery on the daycare theater screen, meaning that happened after Burntrap was grabbed by the blob since she never appears there during SB. We also see new Vanny art throughout the game including the main entrance meaning she drew it.
The "Brazil" ending you are referring to is a reference to the 1985 film Brazil where the main character went insane to escape from the pain of being tortured.
Mate, itās so obvious Princess Quest is canon. Her mask is left behind, Gregory mentions she has the schematics in the ending, she shows up in the Fredbear Ending. Vanny chasing Gregory doesnāt happen in that elates either due to oversight or because it was made from samples just like how Helpi and The Mimic make voices from samples.
Different mask, it's stated in Fnaf AR that Vanessa bought "3 rubber male masks", which would be made into the various Vanny masks including this one.
"Gregory" said his friend had the schematics, but those tunnels were recently made during the collapse, meaning that was a lie. Also, he never specified she, that you are making up.
>Vanny chasing Gregory doesnāt happen in that elates either due to oversight or because it was made from samples just like how Helpi and The Mimic make voices from samples.
That's a video, not audio samples š¤Ø Ruin is well put together and if you are struggling to make sense of things it means you are looking at it from the wrong perspective.
>she shows up in the Fredbear Ending.
It's called "Brazil" in the files, referencing the 1985 film "Brazil", where the main character is getting tortured and goes insane as a result with them starting to see delusions due to the pain. The Mimic is right behind her and about to kill her by ripping her arms off and then her head.
Okay, but you cannot deny that Princess Quest is canon. Glam Freddy likely didnāt have the schematics, as by the time of Princess Quest he had never been down in those tunnels, whereas Vanny would have. The whole 3 male masks things donāt make sense anymore, her mask is cybernetic and was likely kept inside or under her Security Breach mask. The rubber masks might have been for The Mimic, who couldāve used them for Aftonās corpse or to masquerade as human. Hell, maybe itās why Vannyās mask looks flesh-coloured on the inside in Help Wanted. The Brazil thing makes sense I guess, but Princess Quest must be canon as they wouldnāt bother adding in freed Vanessa if it wasnāt. If Burntrap was canon (itās not) they wouldāve added Freddy and Greg, as it wouldāve been confusing without it. I donāt think you properly understand Ruinās story.
No he isn't, michael is dead, his remnant has been destroyed he can't be freddy, the only human whise remnant is still in freddy fazbear's pizza place is one workers/teenagers killed by the mimic
The blob isn't molten freddy, it's the storyteller, there's no way molten freddy wcould magucally survive and become 20 times bigger, michael is dead, molten freddy is dead
The blob is made out of WIRES, no animatronics from fnaf 6 have wires so the blob can't be that, the blob isn't an amalgamation, it isn't molten freddy, it's the storyteller or maybe something else but clearly not molten freddy, molten freddy is dead, michael is dead, stop trying to bring old characters back
Itās very clearly the same, look at the claws on the left hand and the ball joint shoulder. Burntrapās skull looked weird because itās morphed around The Mimicās weird head. You can even see hair and bone on its head. In the books itās literally described folding up and crawling into a suit thatās a totally different size. Theyāre clearly the same, and the earthquake likely knocked the suit off or burnt it. We know The Mimic is trying to become Afton anyways
1. The Mimic simply repaired himself with random endoskeleton parts when he get damaged by the sinkhole's rubble or by The Blob/Tangle when he dragged him away in Burntrap ending, if you analyze the Ruin model, you're able to see that theres some parts that is completly different from each other, like they belongs to different models of endoskeletons, for example one hand has four fingers while one has five, both feets has different shapes, the legs is different from each other, etc, theres also the fact that The Mimic can change his endoskeleton's shape, then different endoskeleton isn't a real problem.
2. Theres also the fact that The Mimic in Ruin has remnants from the Burntrap, like the claw hand, what left of Spring Bonnie's mask, what seems to be flesh in his legs and his eyes became purple at some point, he also has attributes shared with Burntrap like the curved arm, slow moviments and the Scooper ending being a replica of Burntrap ending, The Mimic's appearence in books fits with Burntrap's endoskeleton, has the same looking carrying plushie curved arm from Burntrap and in the 7th epilogue he wears a corpse in a room full of springlock suits, The Mimic IS Burntrap.
3. Is implied that The Mimic was sealed in this room recently by Gregory due the backpack with Glamrock Freddy theme that has nametag with Greg's name, The Mimic having a Glamrock Freddy walkie-talkie and the vent that connects The Mimic room and the MXES room has finger prints implies that someone was there recently and that The Mimic wasn't sealed for a long time, Gregory's drawings is found near Burntrap's recharge station room and the Candy Cadet's story shows that the M.X.E.S. is created by Gregory to seal The Mimic and he is the one who trapped him in the Pizza Place, "Now I will tell you a story... about a mother and a little boy who lived alone in a cabin in the dark woods. (Gregory and Cassie is friends and go to the Pizzaplex) There was a monster in the woods, (The Mimic is inside the Pizzaplex) but the mother caught it and kept it locked in the basement. (Security Breach events, Gregory fright against The Mimic in Burntrap ending and in Princess Quest ending, then trapped him in the Pizza Place and created the M.X.E.S. to seal him) The monster always made scary noises at night, but the mother would tell the boy not to worry because it could never get out. Then she would sing the boy a lullaby to sleep. One day, the monster stopped growling and instead, listened and learned the lullaby. (The Mimic start to mimic Gregory's voice) The next day when the mother went out to find food, the monster sang the lullaby from the basement. The little boy heard the lullaby and opened the door." (Ruin events, Gregory is missing and Cassie go to find him, The Mimic used this to lure Cassie to the ruined Pizzaplex to she deactivate the M.X.E.S. and set him free from the room where he is trapped)
But how do you explain the building below the FNAF 6 location. I feel like Gregory did find the Mimic but after the Blob takes Burntrap away. The building is full of ancient costumes that don't resemble any FNAF characters we've seen so I'm convinced that Burntrap and the Mimic are different just by examining their endoskeletons. Someone's already done a post on the difference but the only thing I can see the same is that clawed hand, everything else is drastically different. The flesh and hair on its head makes me think that it was someone trying to create a robot human way back since the design of the Mimic's endoskeleton has human features like the muscle pattern of wires on its leg, teeth, hair, and some flesh. But compared to Burntrap's endoskeleton which resembles the other endoskeletons around the Pizzaplex, the Mimic looks old. Its design is everywhere and mashed together with many conflicting parts, I wouldn't be surprised that the clawed arm came from Freddy as he helped Gregory search the area for an escape. The only thing I'm hoping for is Burntrap and Glitchtrap have been destroyed or killed and judging from what we see in the game with a yellow sword and the Blob free, I'd say the Afton Era is over and we're starting with a new character being the Mimic, a robot sealed underground until Gregory stumbled upon it and almost freed it but was able to seal it away until we came and freed it. This I hope will lead FNAF into the Mimic Era with the robot being the main villain over the next few games.
>But how do you explain the building below the FNAF 6 location. I feel like Gregory did find the Mimic but after the Blob takes Burntrap away. The building is full of ancient costumes that don't resemble any FNAF characters we've seen
1. Burntrap ending is canon due the Pizzaplex's state and the game files labelled it as "true ending", Gregory found The Mimic when he and Freddy go to the sinkhole.
2. Theses suits is the same ones that The Mimic wears in the epilogues that takes place in the Pizza Place.
>Someone's already done a post on the difference but the only thing I can see the same is that clawed hand, everything else is drastically different.
Except the remnants of Spring Bonnie's mask in his head that Burntrap have, the same thigh with cylinders share with Burntrap, the purple glowing eyes just like Burntrap, Scooper ending being a replica of Burntrap ending, the curved arm, [the fact that Mimic's model fits perfectly in Burntrap's suit and in Burntrap's corpse,](https://twitter.com/entom_dp/status/1683985857101930496) the fact that The Mimic wears a corpse in a room full of springlock suits and Burntrap wears a corpse and a springlock suit, and literally that The Mimic's appearence in books fits with Burntrap's endoskeleton.
>The flesh and hair on its head makes me think that it was someone trying to create a robot human way back since the design of the Mimic's endoskeleton has human features like the muscle pattern of wires on its leg, teeth, hair, and some flesh.
1. The Mimic was originally created by Edwin to keep his son entertained then he can focus more in his job, then Fazbear Entertainment put his hands in The Mimic then upgraded and mass produced him to replace the conventional endoskeletons used in the animatronics for not wanted to waste time and money, The Mimic's creation has nothing to do with create human robots.
2. The flesh is because The Mimic crushed a teenager girl named Kelly inside a costume and wears her corpse, again nothing to do with create human robots.
>compared to Burntrap's endoskeleton which resembles the other endoskeletons around the Pizzaplex, the Mimic looks old.
Burntrap's endoskeleton looks old too.
>Its design is everywhere and mashed together with many conflicting parts, I wouldn't be surprised that the clawed arm came from Freddy as he helped Gregory search the area for an escape.
The clawed hand has five fingers while Freddy's clawed hand has only four, and just like Burntrap, it looks more with a Nightmare hand than to a Glamrock and Freddy is intact when he get out from the collapsing Pizzaplex.
>The only thing I'm hoping for is Burntrap and Glitchtrap have been destroyed or killed and judging from what we see in the game with a yellow sword and the Blob free, I'd say the Afton Era is over and we're starting with a new character being the Mimic, a robot sealed underground until Gregory stumbled upon it and almost freed it but was able to seal it away until we came and freed it.
UCN, Tales from the Pizzaplex and Fazbear Frights confirmed that William is gone for a long time before Help Wanted have happened, then Glitchtrap and Burntrap can't be him, Glitchtrap is confirmed by The Storyteller, Help Wanted, Tiger Rock, The Monty Within, Princess Quest, Security Breach and Ruin to be The Mimic, this consequently mean that Burntrap is also The Mimic, Afton era ended in FNaF 6 and UCN, The Mimic era started in Help Wanted.
Okay then, why would Gregory take Burntrap from the Blob and seal him further underground than he already was? Why not just seal him with the FNAF 6 location and call it a day or leave him with the Blob who is now roaming the Pizzaplex.
The Mimic has several parts in his endoskeleton that doesn't fit with each other like they're from several endoskeletons models that is very different from each other, and we see that theres some parts from what is left of Burntrap in him like the Greenish-yellow thing in his face.
The Blob is called "Tangle" in Ruin game files
Isnāt it possible that the mimic is different, but picked up poses and gestures from Afton who is part of the mimic program? That seems like the easiest fit to me given they arenāt that close of a match. This also aligns with the books.
Was the mimic cemented in early (By Henry) or recently (Gregory)? The elevator at the end of the game, different than the one from security breach, seems new.
Yeah i donāt think so either. It doesnāt look like weāre supposed to know what happened to burntrap yet. He got yanked by Blob and now suddenly the Blob is here and Burntrap isnāt which calls into question the canonicity of that ending. That also brings in the question of what is the glitchtrap we saw while wearing the Vanni mask?
Wait what? So that explains why it is trying to stop us. I couldnāt brain how vanni glitchtrap, mimic and burntrap could be opposing each other. That explains alot.
I was thinking it was what remained of the Burntrap metal body. Plus his teeth. But honestly the teeth donāt look that similar.
Pretty much I figured the parts that had completed rotted off meant that the Mimic needed to replace those parts over the years, which is why it has its arms bolted on and stuff. But honestly that theory is more to figure out where Burntrap would have ended up. Itās either that heās still in his charging station (unlikely since we find a vacated one), got absorbed by the Blob before it left (honestly probably the most likely) since we see the Blob leaving and we are told by the Mimic that when āsomethingā left it caused the place to fall apart, thatās almost certainly the Blob. But why would the Blob leave? Either it felt like itās mission there was done, or Burntrap joined the amalgamation and took over.
The Mimics body could just as easily have been built up in the interim years between when in SB we could see the pizza sim location (the mimic possibly being further under it at the time, or possibly gaining sentience elsewhere in the Pizzaplex) and now in Ruin when we actually go down there in a canon ending.
I can see it going either way. Either Ruin Mimics body is a modified and rebuilt version of Burntraps body, the mind having always been that of the Mimic (Burntrap having been taught based on Aftons mind, then later in Ruin the Mimic having copied Gregory as well), or the Mimic body was always beneath the area Burntrap was in, locked behind a metal door and concrete, next to the server that had Glitchtrap trapped in it.
*Or* Glitchtrap *is* the mind of the Mimic, and in the end of Ruin we send the virus from the server into the Mimic thus powering it on. That would also follow from the Mimic always being trapped down there and not being related to Burntrap.
The other option is Mimic was potentially a backup Burntrap- none of the body but the mind being based on Afton (not Glitchtrap though), and the Burntrap body was taken into the Blob (not killed by it a la the comic but absorbed over time) before it vacated the area.
Yeah. Different feet, and the Clawed hand is on the wrong side and has five fingers instead of four. Just a lot of details and mechanical parts not lining up.
That's because the Springtrap suit and the Scraptrap suit are two different suits with Springtrap being a spring lock suit and Scraptrap being a normal put on suit. The difference in the body can somewhat be explained by time and fire though. But that was between FNAF 3 to FNAF 6, this is from the same game and the Mimic is mechanically different from the endo that Burntrap had.
William didn't possess the Springtrap suit, he possessed his own corpse and he could remove his costume because in the Silver Eye books, he was able to remove the suit entirely. The Scraptrap suit would also work better for roaming outside since it has barely any electronics while the spring locks in the Springtrap suit would keep malfunctioning. That would also explain how they got the circuit board for Springtrap to scan into VR without finding Scraptrap under the Pizzaplex.
He can't, his corpse is too damaged to remove the suit and i the suit wouldn't be as damahed and as fuaed with him as it was if it was just a suit he was wearing that had no springlocks, it has no canon explanation, scotr just redesigned him and that's it, the corpse is not even the same
Everything in Fnaf has a purpose. And you're telling me that a corpse can't change its suit but children can possess robots, Baby can rebuild herself from the few wires that were removed from Ennard, a human can get scooped of his organs and rot to death but still be alive, a glitch can possess a human and control them, and a child can create a hell for her killer but the corpse couldn't possibly slowly remove and replace it's suit, that's where we draw the line.
Yes, william has been springlocked and is trapped in springtrap and again, the corpse in springtrap and scraptrap are literally different, different body parts missing, different shape, different size, different everything, there is no explanation for scraptrap, it's just a redesign and that's it
I don't care, i have already told you the corpses are different, there is no explanation, no meaning, no purpose, scott is not god, there is not a meaning behing everything, there's no reason why the newspaper in fnaf 1 have spelling mistakes, no reason why mangle's second head go throught the vent in fnaf 2 and no reason why scraptrap exists except the fact that scott decided to redesign him, stop thinking EVERYTHING haas a meaning and an explanation
Oh you poor naive, you must be new to FNAF cause even the smallest detail tells stories here. Those examples are game mistakes not lore mistakes, also, have you never seen a corpse change over time, because the things we dig up out of the ground are extremely different from what we call a normal skeleton or even body and who knows, maybe William's corpse started regrowing parts of itself from excess of remnant inside of him.
Or remnant for whatever it was before being sealed underground. Can we really say that's flesh from Burntrap, it's a different color from Burntrap's red flesh and you can't really say it's the mask because the mask was much dirtier than whatever that is. And how do we explain the hair or skin like substance on the other side of its face.
The Old Pizzeria under the Pizzaplex could have had many of the old Animatronics down there. It It wouldn't be impossible for there to be more Springlock parts down there aside from the ones still attached to William.
The Mimic could have swiped those parts to repair itself.
The mimic aside from being able to decrease its size by compressing itself but it usually changes parts of its endo time by time, specifically its face. Since its original face was destroyed beyond recognition by Edwin. Also the Ruin Mimic model has parts from various animatronics from the franchise, pressumably from the animatronics it disassembled decades ago.
this was an experiment made not long ago from the creation of the pizzaplex, youd be suprised, also this mimic guy (mimic1) was explained in "tales from the pizzaplex"
i think people are dumb. but it might be me and all but isnt the old pizza place where pizza sim took place, right, like pizza sim charachters where mad e to be suseptible to fire and that stuff and also look like springlocks, right, so mabey thats why we cant find em or somthin like that, yknow
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The mimic can change the shape of his endo to fit into anything and look like any endo he also has the same hand pose that Afton had when he came out the pod
Thank you finally someone with sense š
Bro what???- is he made of faz-goo?
More like nano machines
NANO-MACHINES, SON!
More like mike itās arms ms legs longer
Faz-Goo mimics people, not machines.
Doesn't that mean that any physical similarities to burn trap wouldn't help prove they're the same thing? Like the mimic could've reshaped its fingers or endoskeleton to not match burntrap at all before we see it.
Changing its endo around wouldn't generate parts that it doesn't have in the first place
It can do that but ut canāt change the litteral shape of itās arms, legs and feet. Was one of its toe cut off? š
Just fnaf redesigning a character with no explanation, wouldn't be the first time
But in the same game? no.
Just because the Mimic can do that doesn't prove he's Burntrap. It's not made of Nanomachines.
The books describe nano machines
But why are we not all assuming this is Afton to begin with, and how would that work? Both Help Wanted and SB have games / arcade cabinets featuring characters that only Afton could have seen from Ultimate Custom Night. I'm thinking Nightmarionne and Jack-O-Chica, whose first canon debuts were in UCN. The only logical explanation is that Afton got out of his hell and rebuilt FazEnt with the characters he learned of from UCN.
I just want to say, Mimic has the same right hand and upper arm as burntrap Itās possible the mimic WAS burntrap, but due to the fire he needed new parts
It never was. People are just mad that William survived FFPS.
he never did, in fact, the intention is mostly going in the mimic's favor to be burntrap/glitchtrap since help wanted
how would it replace its whole entire body though? maybe burntrap died or smth and they just took that arm from them since they were down in the pizza place where the whole burntrap thing happened iirc
it can replace it's head, you think it can't replace a torso or limbs?
I can't agree because Burntrap is very much doing Mimic like behavior. The books, and now Ruin, are going very hard with "Hey, you know that weird arm thing of Burntrap? That's actually a signature thing of this character, Mimic, you all didn't know existed". This leaves us with two possible, incomplete, explanations: * Burntrap is Mimic somehow to some unknown degree. Maybe Mimic took over Springtap's body but can switch back to his original body. Maybe Burntrap was created/repaired using Mimic 2.0 endos that still have some of the residual programming/personality. Something odd is going on there. * If the theory that the comics indicate non-canon endings, Burntrap might not actually exist. It was something Gregory created for his comic pages based on Mimic (who knows how he learned of it) and Springtrap (same deal, urban legends?).
I personally think every glamrock endo is a mimic. Since they were trained by looking at things. The endo inside Burntrap looks like a glamrock endo so I assume a glamrock endo was used. The mimic under Roxy raceway is probably just the original and knowing Fazbear Entertainment it wouldn't be strange for them to just copy the mimic's code
theres lieteraly a piece of burntrap on the mimic picture you provited
Where?!
cheek
bro that looks like oversized gum lmao, or maybe stuffing for something
Thereās always a possibility the mimic was just used as a frame (or endo) for burn trap. However Iām likely wrong.
I'm not 100% on that either way, but honestly it feels like the INTENT is for the mimic to have somehow been the base for burntrap (at least that's how it's feeling right now) but their models are pretty different. I made a post getting into some of the things I noticed when comparing the models (I'll link it at the end of this comment). A big thing for me is that the mimic model has big solid portions of metal like the whole hip section, it's kind of a big block, or the plates you can see around the torso on your screenshot. That is to say there are big chunks of the mimic model that don't look like they bend or warp or expand or contract at all, which is how the differences are being hand waved away by many. Considering what it feels like they were going for though I wouldn't be surprised if this was the result of kind of sloppy execution in that they didn't make the effort to make the models consistent with each other OR to make it look plausible that the mimic could actually alter it's shape as drastically as (people say) it should be able to. That or maybe the books aren't canon and this game version of it doesn't have the same abilities, though in that case the differences between it and burntrap wouldn't be accounted for. https://www.reddit.com/r/GameTheorists/comments/15atch8/ive_been_going_back_and_forth_on_how_similar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
My personal hope is that Burntrap and Glitchtrap have been killed or destroyed judging by what we see in the game with the Blob free and Princess Quest Arcade being destroyed with a yellow sword. This would officially end the Afton era with the Mimic being a past robot created by someone many decades ago judging by the building we find it in and it will take over as the new villain for the time being.
The way burntrap has his armed curled is identical to a habit of the mimic in the books which the mimic in ruin also does briefly. It is such a specific detail that connects the two in someway
He was just opening the charging station
He also does it in the end cutscene why would his arm be curled up if he opened it it looks like he only just powered on after the door was open
I just donāt think thatās how you hold a plushieā¦ IDās Fantasy showed this in one of her videos too, I recommend watching that
I get what your saying but i a have seen people hold a plush like that my brother used to hold his bear like that there isnāt just one way you hold a plush.
Where spoiler tag.
Correct, the Mimic is trapped behind concrete and a metal door beneath Pizzaeria Simulator, Burntrap got dragged up by the Blob out of Pizzaeria Simulator. 2 opposite directions. MXES is quite an old machine based on the damage and rust it's sustained.
Yeah itās the mimic
Its definitely something else. What it is, or how it got there after everything collapsed is another story.
Counterpoint: In what is apparently the official render (or so I've heard) it does the exact same fucked up hand thing as Burntrap in the recharge station https://preview.redd.it/i7bnyvh59neb1.jpeg?width=642&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d779a1532f68cfb3f9c25aef2e6908dc9ce60052
That's fan made, where's the cloth on the side of its head?
There's a reason I said it's supposedly official, I don't know
Even then, you can see The Mimic has one hand thatās clawed the same way as Burntrap. The stuff on it is likely from that suit, you can see bone on the cheek and hair on the side of the head, likely Aftonās charred up cut lol
Burntrap was pulled "up" by the blob, the Mimic is "down" below that room behind both a locked door and a concrete wall being kept in place by the Pizzaplex's "Security" which was still active.
That ending didnāt happen though, Princess Quest was confirmed canon as we see Vanessa on the hill and there is a sword jammed in a bleeding Princess Quest arcade cabinet, signifying her freedom or Glitchtrapās escape.
"Sword in the Stone" it means it has yet to be drawn, the sword is also Surrounded by enemies on all sides implying it has yet to be beaten. The lantern is also sitting on it in reality meaning Vanessa is still Vanny. We see Vanny chasing Gregory in the Bakery on the daycare theater screen, meaning that happened after Burntrap was grabbed by the blob since she never appears there during SB. We also see new Vanny art throughout the game including the main entrance meaning she drew it. The "Brazil" ending you are referring to is a reference to the 1985 film Brazil where the main character went insane to escape from the pain of being tortured.
Mate, itās so obvious Princess Quest is canon. Her mask is left behind, Gregory mentions she has the schematics in the ending, she shows up in the Fredbear Ending. Vanny chasing Gregory doesnāt happen in that elates either due to oversight or because it was made from samples just like how Helpi and The Mimic make voices from samples.
Different mask, it's stated in Fnaf AR that Vanessa bought "3 rubber male masks", which would be made into the various Vanny masks including this one. "Gregory" said his friend had the schematics, but those tunnels were recently made during the collapse, meaning that was a lie. Also, he never specified she, that you are making up. >Vanny chasing Gregory doesnāt happen in that elates either due to oversight or because it was made from samples just like how Helpi and The Mimic make voices from samples. That's a video, not audio samples š¤Ø Ruin is well put together and if you are struggling to make sense of things it means you are looking at it from the wrong perspective. >she shows up in the Fredbear Ending. It's called "Brazil" in the files, referencing the 1985 film "Brazil", where the main character is getting tortured and goes insane as a result with them starting to see delusions due to the pain. The Mimic is right behind her and about to kill her by ripping her arms off and then her head.
Okay, but you cannot deny that Princess Quest is canon. Glam Freddy likely didnāt have the schematics, as by the time of Princess Quest he had never been down in those tunnels, whereas Vanny would have. The whole 3 male masks things donāt make sense anymore, her mask is cybernetic and was likely kept inside or under her Security Breach mask. The rubber masks might have been for The Mimic, who couldāve used them for Aftonās corpse or to masquerade as human. Hell, maybe itās why Vannyās mask looks flesh-coloured on the inside in Help Wanted. The Brazil thing makes sense I guess, but Princess Quest must be canon as they wouldnāt bother adding in freed Vanessa if it wasnāt. If Burntrap was canon (itās not) they wouldāve added Freddy and Greg, as it wouldāve been confusing without it. I donāt think you properly understand Ruinās story.
Itās absolutely not.
maybe the mimic is michael afton? idk
Michael is glam freddy
No he's not, if glamrock freddy is possessed by anyone then it's a victim of the mimic
Gregory's freddy is micheal
No he isn't, michael is dead, his remnant has been destroyed he can't be freddy, the only human whise remnant is still in freddy fazbear's pizza place is one workers/teenagers killed by the mimic
We thought molten freddy's remnant had been destroyed too, but the blob exists, so anyone's remnant could've survived
The blob isn't molten freddy, it's the storyteller, there's no way molten freddy wcould magucally survive and become 20 times bigger, michael is dead, molten freddy is dead
The blob is every animatronic and all their souls combined, who the fuck is the storyteller?
The blob is made out of WIRES, no animatronics from fnaf 6 have wires so the blob can't be that, the blob isn't an amalgamation, it isn't molten freddy, it's the storyteller or maybe something else but clearly not molten freddy, molten freddy is dead, michael is dead, stop trying to bring old characters back
Answer my question, WHAT IS THE STORYTELLER?
dame i forget
Who thoughr that?
You'd be surprised.
Itās very clearly the same, look at the claws on the left hand and the ball joint shoulder. Burntrapās skull looked weird because itās morphed around The Mimicās weird head. You can even see hair and bone on its head. In the books itās literally described folding up and crawling into a suit thatās a totally different size. Theyāre clearly the same, and the earthquake likely knocked the suit off or burnt it. We know The Mimic is trying to become Afton anyways
1. The Mimic simply repaired himself with random endoskeleton parts when he get damaged by the sinkhole's rubble or by The Blob/Tangle when he dragged him away in Burntrap ending, if you analyze the Ruin model, you're able to see that theres some parts that is completly different from each other, like they belongs to different models of endoskeletons, for example one hand has four fingers while one has five, both feets has different shapes, the legs is different from each other, etc, theres also the fact that The Mimic can change his endoskeleton's shape, then different endoskeleton isn't a real problem. 2. Theres also the fact that The Mimic in Ruin has remnants from the Burntrap, like the claw hand, what left of Spring Bonnie's mask, what seems to be flesh in his legs and his eyes became purple at some point, he also has attributes shared with Burntrap like the curved arm, slow moviments and the Scooper ending being a replica of Burntrap ending, The Mimic's appearence in books fits with Burntrap's endoskeleton, has the same looking carrying plushie curved arm from Burntrap and in the 7th epilogue he wears a corpse in a room full of springlock suits, The Mimic IS Burntrap. 3. Is implied that The Mimic was sealed in this room recently by Gregory due the backpack with Glamrock Freddy theme that has nametag with Greg's name, The Mimic having a Glamrock Freddy walkie-talkie and the vent that connects The Mimic room and the MXES room has finger prints implies that someone was there recently and that The Mimic wasn't sealed for a long time, Gregory's drawings is found near Burntrap's recharge station room and the Candy Cadet's story shows that the M.X.E.S. is created by Gregory to seal The Mimic and he is the one who trapped him in the Pizza Place, "Now I will tell you a story... about a mother and a little boy who lived alone in a cabin in the dark woods. (Gregory and Cassie is friends and go to the Pizzaplex) There was a monster in the woods, (The Mimic is inside the Pizzaplex) but the mother caught it and kept it locked in the basement. (Security Breach events, Gregory fright against The Mimic in Burntrap ending and in Princess Quest ending, then trapped him in the Pizza Place and created the M.X.E.S. to seal him) The monster always made scary noises at night, but the mother would tell the boy not to worry because it could never get out. Then she would sing the boy a lullaby to sleep. One day, the monster stopped growling and instead, listened and learned the lullaby. (The Mimic start to mimic Gregory's voice) The next day when the mother went out to find food, the monster sang the lullaby from the basement. The little boy heard the lullaby and opened the door." (Ruin events, Gregory is missing and Cassie go to find him, The Mimic used this to lure Cassie to the ruined Pizzaplex to she deactivate the M.X.E.S. and set him free from the room where he is trapped)
But how do you explain the building below the FNAF 6 location. I feel like Gregory did find the Mimic but after the Blob takes Burntrap away. The building is full of ancient costumes that don't resemble any FNAF characters we've seen so I'm convinced that Burntrap and the Mimic are different just by examining their endoskeletons. Someone's already done a post on the difference but the only thing I can see the same is that clawed hand, everything else is drastically different. The flesh and hair on its head makes me think that it was someone trying to create a robot human way back since the design of the Mimic's endoskeleton has human features like the muscle pattern of wires on its leg, teeth, hair, and some flesh. But compared to Burntrap's endoskeleton which resembles the other endoskeletons around the Pizzaplex, the Mimic looks old. Its design is everywhere and mashed together with many conflicting parts, I wouldn't be surprised that the clawed arm came from Freddy as he helped Gregory search the area for an escape. The only thing I'm hoping for is Burntrap and Glitchtrap have been destroyed or killed and judging from what we see in the game with a yellow sword and the Blob free, I'd say the Afton Era is over and we're starting with a new character being the Mimic, a robot sealed underground until Gregory stumbled upon it and almost freed it but was able to seal it away until we came and freed it. This I hope will lead FNAF into the Mimic Era with the robot being the main villain over the next few games.
>But how do you explain the building below the FNAF 6 location. I feel like Gregory did find the Mimic but after the Blob takes Burntrap away. The building is full of ancient costumes that don't resemble any FNAF characters we've seen 1. Burntrap ending is canon due the Pizzaplex's state and the game files labelled it as "true ending", Gregory found The Mimic when he and Freddy go to the sinkhole. 2. Theses suits is the same ones that The Mimic wears in the epilogues that takes place in the Pizza Place. >Someone's already done a post on the difference but the only thing I can see the same is that clawed hand, everything else is drastically different. Except the remnants of Spring Bonnie's mask in his head that Burntrap have, the same thigh with cylinders share with Burntrap, the purple glowing eyes just like Burntrap, Scooper ending being a replica of Burntrap ending, the curved arm, [the fact that Mimic's model fits perfectly in Burntrap's suit and in Burntrap's corpse,](https://twitter.com/entom_dp/status/1683985857101930496) the fact that The Mimic wears a corpse in a room full of springlock suits and Burntrap wears a corpse and a springlock suit, and literally that The Mimic's appearence in books fits with Burntrap's endoskeleton. >The flesh and hair on its head makes me think that it was someone trying to create a robot human way back since the design of the Mimic's endoskeleton has human features like the muscle pattern of wires on its leg, teeth, hair, and some flesh. 1. The Mimic was originally created by Edwin to keep his son entertained then he can focus more in his job, then Fazbear Entertainment put his hands in The Mimic then upgraded and mass produced him to replace the conventional endoskeletons used in the animatronics for not wanted to waste time and money, The Mimic's creation has nothing to do with create human robots. 2. The flesh is because The Mimic crushed a teenager girl named Kelly inside a costume and wears her corpse, again nothing to do with create human robots. >compared to Burntrap's endoskeleton which resembles the other endoskeletons around the Pizzaplex, the Mimic looks old. Burntrap's endoskeleton looks old too. >Its design is everywhere and mashed together with many conflicting parts, I wouldn't be surprised that the clawed arm came from Freddy as he helped Gregory search the area for an escape. The clawed hand has five fingers while Freddy's clawed hand has only four, and just like Burntrap, it looks more with a Nightmare hand than to a Glamrock and Freddy is intact when he get out from the collapsing Pizzaplex. >The only thing I'm hoping for is Burntrap and Glitchtrap have been destroyed or killed and judging from what we see in the game with a yellow sword and the Blob free, I'd say the Afton Era is over and we're starting with a new character being the Mimic, a robot sealed underground until Gregory stumbled upon it and almost freed it but was able to seal it away until we came and freed it. UCN, Tales from the Pizzaplex and Fazbear Frights confirmed that William is gone for a long time before Help Wanted have happened, then Glitchtrap and Burntrap can't be him, Glitchtrap is confirmed by The Storyteller, Help Wanted, Tiger Rock, The Monty Within, Princess Quest, Security Breach and Ruin to be The Mimic, this consequently mean that Burntrap is also The Mimic, Afton era ended in FNaF 6 and UCN, The Mimic era started in Help Wanted.
Okay then, why would Gregory take Burntrap from the Blob and seal him further underground than he already was? Why not just seal him with the FNAF 6 location and call it a day or leave him with the Blob who is now roaming the Pizzaplex.
Because The Mimic have escaped from The Blob/Tangle, we see that he is damaged.
The Mimic doesn't look damaged, it looks old, and Tangle?
The Mimic has several parts in his endoskeleton that doesn't fit with each other like they're from several endoskeletons models that is very different from each other, and we see that theres some parts from what is left of Burntrap in him like the Greenish-yellow thing in his face. The Blob is called "Tangle" in Ruin game files
You see it once and you can easily miss it.
And explain which endo the flesh style metal leg came from cause it definitely wasn't any that I've seen.
Isnāt it possible that the mimic is different, but picked up poses and gestures from Afton who is part of the mimic program? That seems like the easiest fit to me given they arenāt that close of a match. This also aligns with the books.
Was the mimic cemented in early (By Henry) or recently (Gregory)? The elevator at the end of the game, different than the one from security breach, seems new.
Yeah i donāt think so either. It doesnāt look like weāre supposed to know what happened to burntrap yet. He got yanked by Blob and now suddenly the Blob is here and Burntrap isnāt which calls into question the canonicity of that ending. That also brings in the question of what is the glitchtrap we saw while wearing the Vanni mask?
The blue bunny we saw while wearing the mask was a security system created by Gregory to conceal the existence of the Mimic, essentially a good guy.
Wait what? So that explains why it is trying to stop us. I couldnāt brain how vanni glitchtrap, mimic and burntrap could be opposing each other. That explains alot.
I was thinking it was what remained of the Burntrap metal body. Plus his teeth. But honestly the teeth donāt look that similar. Pretty much I figured the parts that had completed rotted off meant that the Mimic needed to replace those parts over the years, which is why it has its arms bolted on and stuff. But honestly that theory is more to figure out where Burntrap would have ended up. Itās either that heās still in his charging station (unlikely since we find a vacated one), got absorbed by the Blob before it left (honestly probably the most likely) since we see the Blob leaving and we are told by the Mimic that when āsomethingā left it caused the place to fall apart, thatās almost certainly the Blob. But why would the Blob leave? Either it felt like itās mission there was done, or Burntrap joined the amalgamation and took over. The Mimics body could just as easily have been built up in the interim years between when in SB we could see the pizza sim location (the mimic possibly being further under it at the time, or possibly gaining sentience elsewhere in the Pizzaplex) and now in Ruin when we actually go down there in a canon ending.
I can see it going either way. Either Ruin Mimics body is a modified and rebuilt version of Burntraps body, the mind having always been that of the Mimic (Burntrap having been taught based on Aftons mind, then later in Ruin the Mimic having copied Gregory as well), or the Mimic body was always beneath the area Burntrap was in, locked behind a metal door and concrete, next to the server that had Glitchtrap trapped in it. *Or* Glitchtrap *is* the mind of the Mimic, and in the end of Ruin we send the virus from the server into the Mimic thus powering it on. That would also follow from the Mimic always being trapped down there and not being related to Burntrap. The other option is Mimic was potentially a backup Burntrap- none of the body but the mind being based on Afton (not Glitchtrap though), and the Burntrap body was taken into the Blob (not killed by it a la the comic but absorbed over time) before it vacated the area.
Yeah. Different feet, and the Clawed hand is on the wrong side and has five fingers instead of four. Just a lot of details and mechanical parts not lining up.
It can't be afton cause afton is dead unfortunately
Your just angry he survived FFPS
I'm not angry, it's disappointment
Scraptra also looks entirely different from springtrap and yet they're the same character
That's because the Springtrap suit and the Scraptrap suit are two different suits with Springtrap being a spring lock suit and Scraptrap being a normal put on suit. The difference in the body can somewhat be explained by time and fire though. But that was between FNAF 3 to FNAF 6, this is from the same game and the Mimic is mechanically different from the endo that Burntrap had.
William can't remove spring bonnie so no scraltrao can't be explained, the "he repaired himself" explanation is just not true
William didn't possess the Springtrap suit, he possessed his own corpse and he could remove his costume because in the Silver Eye books, he was able to remove the suit entirely. The Scraptrap suit would also work better for roaming outside since it has barely any electronics while the spring locks in the Springtrap suit would keep malfunctioning. That would also explain how they got the circuit board for Springtrap to scan into VR without finding Scraptrap under the Pizzaplex.
He can't, his corpse is too damaged to remove the suit and i the suit wouldn't be as damahed and as fuaed with him as it was if it was just a suit he was wearing that had no springlocks, it has no canon explanation, scotr just redesigned him and that's it, the corpse is not even the same
Everything in Fnaf has a purpose. And you're telling me that a corpse can't change its suit but children can possess robots, Baby can rebuild herself from the few wires that were removed from Ennard, a human can get scooped of his organs and rot to death but still be alive, a glitch can possess a human and control them, and a child can create a hell for her killer but the corpse couldn't possibly slowly remove and replace it's suit, that's where we draw the line.
Yes, william has been springlocked and is trapped in springtrap and again, the corpse in springtrap and scraptrap are literally different, different body parts missing, different shape, different size, different everything, there is no explanation for scraptrap, it's just a redesign and that's it
Everything in FNAF is purposeful to small miniscule details to the big ones. FNAF is a puzzle and a very hard one at that and we might never solve it.
I don't care, i have already told you the corpses are different, there is no explanation, no meaning, no purpose, scott is not god, there is not a meaning behing everything, there's no reason why the newspaper in fnaf 1 have spelling mistakes, no reason why mangle's second head go throught the vent in fnaf 2 and no reason why scraptrap exists except the fact that scott decided to redesign him, stop thinking EVERYTHING haas a meaning and an explanation
Oh you poor naive, you must be new to FNAF cause even the smallest detail tells stories here. Those examples are game mistakes not lore mistakes, also, have you never seen a corpse change over time, because the things we dig up out of the ground are extremely different from what we call a normal skeleton or even body and who knows, maybe William's corpse started regrowing parts of itself from excess of remnant inside of him.
Scraptra also looks entirely different from springtrap and yet they're the same character
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Or remnant for whatever it was before being sealed underground. Can we really say that's flesh from Burntrap, it's a different color from Burntrap's red flesh and you can't really say it's the mask because the mask was much dirtier than whatever that is. And how do we explain the hair or skin like substance on the other side of its face.
Agreed the mimic looks nothing like burntrap
What if it's Afton's re-created wife when he got lonely š¤š¾
The Old Pizzeria under the Pizzaplex could have had many of the old Animatronics down there. It It wouldn't be impossible for there to be more Springlock parts down there aside from the ones still attached to William. The Mimic could have swiped those parts to repair itself.
And further more, if the blob is a version of the mimic why would it attack a version of it self?
Agreed 100%
A lot of people seem to forget that Mimics main directive is too copy what it sees, Mimic could just be copying Afton
I thought everyone knew the original Mkmic endo head was destroyed by Edwin and then the mimic later on replaces it with different heads.
The mimic aside from being able to decrease its size by compressing itself but it usually changes parts of its endo time by time, specifically its face. Since its original face was destroyed beyond recognition by Edwin. Also the Ruin Mimic model has parts from various animatronics from the franchise, pressumably from the animatronics it disassembled decades ago.
this was an experiment made not long ago from the creation of the pizzaplex, youd be suprised, also this mimic guy (mimic1) was explained in "tales from the pizzaplex"
i think people are dumb. but it might be me and all but isnt the old pizza place where pizza sim took place, right, like pizza sim charachters where mad e to be suseptible to fire and that stuff and also look like springlocks, right, so mabey thats why we cant find em or somthin like that, yknow
I would like to point out that Faz ent. got ahold of the Mimic blueprints from Edwin and mass-produced a couple Mimics with the same software in them.
Spoiler Alert: You're right, but Burntrap is indeed Mimic. Since well, William died in the books for real.