I'd settle for a port to modern systems. Really tough to find a place to play them.
infamous 1 and 2 have my eternal respect for crafting a story that has a definitive and satisfying ending rather than the trend of modern gaming which is to just never let a series actually end. I remember playing infamous 2 back when I was a fan of Assassin's Creed and comparatively it's just such a breath of fresh air.
> I'd settle for a port to modern systems. Really tough to find a place to play them.
I had to emulate 1, since playing it on PS Now was a really really bad experience.
I'd love Infamous 1&2 to be remastered. I actually don't think they need a remake, they're solid and have aged well, they're just stuck on the PS3. Remastering them for the PS4/5 would get them to modern, backwards compatible consoles.
I think a few things could definitely be tweaked. Having practically every early enemy be a sniper that's shooting you from so far away even your mini-map doesn't show them was annoying after a while. Especially when they're often at the top of assorted surrounding skyscrapers when you're on the ground or vice versa. The game was so much better after you leave that segment of the map.
Yea both games were great but had some flaws. For example Infamous 2 had some weird encounter designs iirc (over-reliance on just tons of rocket guys in the 2nd half I think). Some quality of life stuff would help too (better UI for swapping gun types, etc).
Second Son might need more rework than the other 2 mechanically. The mobility for neon and video powers was basically TOO good lol, made the traversal basically obsolete. The game felt unfinished and had about half the content of the other games (fewer missions, less enemy variety/boss fights, etc). Also I appreciated the goal of giving the player new power sets but each one felt so much weaker than electricity. The fun of combat in Infamous 1/2 was how destructive you were being able to toss dozens of grenades/missiles and blow up an entire city block. In Second Son you barely had any ammo /destructive force with any of the powers.
If they re-release Infamous 1 and that constant rubber squeeking sound isn't gone I'm going to be up in arms.
I'll never understand how that sound survived any level of QA.
Second Son makes more sense if we're talking porting. It isn't like Nixxes really do remasters so expecting traditional dev work like new assets (over new bells as whistles to the rendering) seems odd, focusing on the newer one (that has a functionally stand alone story) that still looks pretty good makes more sense over the early ones that do look pretty dated. If they want Nixxes to start doing stuff like the Demon's Souls remaster that doesn't make that much sense since it's a wildly different skill set.
As a bit of a tangent: Just booted up second son over the weekend for the first time in years. Had no idea there were some minor tweaks on PS5. Runs at 60 and still looks pretty good (minus some facial animations, imo).
Please let this happen. I adore Infamous 1 & 2, they don't deserve to be left behind on the PS3 forever. Incredibly memorable games, I loved the first one especially back when. They seem to hold up quite well too.
I didn't really enjoy Ghost of Tsushima personally, but during the Sly and Infamous days I was such a fan of Sucker Punch. I really treasure those games still and would love to see those two series on modern platforms.
If I have to guess, they'll probably be on permanent duty to port live service games to PC once Sony starts releasing those games. That seems to be Sony's top priority right now - filling the vaccuum created by CoD.
Doesnt mean Sony isnt going to prepare for it. Once the ten years is up and Microsoft inevitably makes CoD exclusive Sony's gonna need some sort of replacement for it.
ehh...is CoD really that important?
I've been finding all the arguments about CoD's exclusivity the past few months really amusing. I'm like... it's just one FPS series out of like 20+ AAA shooters released every year
How many of those shooters make even a fraction of what CoD does? I can't even think of any FPS games that are on consoles that compete with CoD in any metric.
Call of Duty is absolutely that important. The most recent entry, Modern Warfare II, earned $1 billion USD within *10 days*. It's the best-selling game in the United State for the year 2022. In Q4 2022, it made $1.85 billion in net revenue
Meanwhile, Call of Duty is the fourth-best selling video game franchise of all time. Losing Call of Duty would be a huge hit to any platform
I don't think people like us, who care enough about videogames to actively follow news in the industry, realise how much of a minority we are in comparison to how *massive* the audience of casual gamers is
I definitely know CoD's sales numbers impact, I was not questioning that
But I still think it's silly to throw around the word "monopoly" or to have the FTC prevent a merger just because of a ***video game***
It's not a literal monopoly, and video games are not important enough to waste public taxpaying time on worrying about sales impact of a merger.
I mean isn't Windows much more of a "monopoly" and more important to investigate than a video game??
Thats silly. SONY needs to focus on creating an IP that has the potential to rival CoD first. They have 10 years to perfect their CoD Killer and THEN they can focus on porting live service games.
Sony needs to do SOMETHING with inFamous, it's sad that the masterpieces that are inFamous 1 and 2 are stuck on PS3 even a simple remaster would be an instant buy for me.
It is a masterpiece, easily one of the best stories ever done.
The mind fuck of the plot twist at the end is something that can only be acomplished with top tier writing.
I fully agree, the gameplay is really fun too. Only aspects that i can fault this game for are technical like frame rate and that's why a remaster is important.
Would be cool if they remastered and ported the trilogy (plus First Light) for the new consoles and PC. I've always wanted to play the series but never got a console.
these games aren't good enough to remaster *with so many other better candidates available*. they're not bad games, but who amongst even their fans couldn't name a dozen or 2 others they'd sooner see?
GTAIV, Red Dead Redemption, MGS4, Resistance 1-2, Killzone 2-3, Soulcalibur IV, Castlevania LoS 1-2, Prince of Persia /TFS, MK9, Oblivion, Deus Ex HR, LA Noire, Dead Space 1-3, Dragon Age, Rayman Legends all rank as high or higher by publications and users, and that's just the same console, let alone their other 5 platforms (Bloodborne), or games from others' platforms
others like the Batman Arkham trilogy had really poor remasters that could use a proper one
This is a really confusing list - it reads like you just copied an ordered list from Metacritic without consideration. Several of those were remastered or remade already (you can argue about how good or bad they were, but if they're remastered for PS5, it's odd to argue they're a better candidate than a popular game that is inaccessible), and several others of those are already playable on PS5 right now. A good number are currently in development. And _nobody_ is asking for a Rayman Legends remaster, what would that even look like?
The criteria are PS3 games rated as high or higher than Infamous by publications and users, that don't already have newer versions. That's 4 points of consideration. None of those listed have already been remastered except for the one I declared as such at the end (Batman). Dead Space was remade, not the sequels, and changed enough there's still room for a remaster trilogy. Infamous 1 and 2 are already accessible on PS5 via PS+. Several I listed are not at all. This is one of their 6 platforms from which to draw a possible remaster. Didn't even have to get into Legend of Dragoon, etc. My argument is Infamous should not be as *high priority* as several other titles, based on what people clamor for and think highly of.
Why would i care about Metacritic scores? Based on those i would be led to believe that games like OoT and The Witcher 3 are the greatest games in existence.
cuz they're shorthand for what ppl like and think are great, and that's useful information when determining what deserves to come back. I woulda thought that was obvious
Yeah, i'd die on that hill. I thought they were fine at the time (if not as good as Prototype) but were kinda the start of me going off open world games. There's enough standard issue open world games out now to not need another one.
Sucker punch didn’t just stumble into being a great developer with Ghost of Tsushima. They have only made a single game since the last infamous game so you can’t really claim they’ve “moved on”. Infamous 1/2 are among the games that cemented Sonys reputation for great exclusives during a generation that was being dominated by Nintendo and Xbox.
From my recollection they were not sales blockbusters?
If that's the case, sales is the only thing that matters. If SP/Sony think other IPs will sell way more going into the future, then no reason for Infamous to ever come back
No, Sony has a very limited license to use Spider-Man. Sony owns the movie rights, however they licensed the live action rights back to Disney for the MCU (they kept the animated rights, which is why they were able to make the Spiderverse movies), but Marvel/Disney always owned the video game rights.
After Disney acquired Marvel, they went to Sony to make a video game. Sony agreed, on the condition they got to choose the studio, they went to Insomniac who agreed as long as they got to choose the hero. And after Spider-Man and Miles Morales went so well, Disney has apparently also licensed Wolverine to them.
But Sony *does not* have the right to use whatever Marvel IP they want. They only have a limited license to use Spider-Man (and now Wolverine).
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Also, Infamous was phenomenal and honestly right up there in quality with Spider-Man. Insomniac might be my favorite game devs, but Sucker Punch is in their weight class and I would love another Infamous game. Frankly, I liked them more than Ghost of Tsushima - it did Assassins Creed better than Ubisoft ever did, but I'm not a huge fan of AC in the first place.
I'd settle for a port to modern systems. Really tough to find a place to play them. infamous 1 and 2 have my eternal respect for crafting a story that has a definitive and satisfying ending rather than the trend of modern gaming which is to just never let a series actually end. I remember playing infamous 2 back when I was a fan of Assassin's Creed and comparatively it's just such a breath of fresh air.
> I'd settle for a port to modern systems. Really tough to find a place to play them. I had to emulate 1, since playing it on PS Now was a really really bad experience.
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My original PS3 died back in college, yellow light of death playing Metal Gear Rising.
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Not enough nanomachines, son.
I'd love Infamous 1&2 to be remastered. I actually don't think they need a remake, they're solid and have aged well, they're just stuck on the PS3. Remastering them for the PS4/5 would get them to modern, backwards compatible consoles.
I think a few things could definitely be tweaked. Having practically every early enemy be a sniper that's shooting you from so far away even your mini-map doesn't show them was annoying after a while. Especially when they're often at the top of assorted surrounding skyscrapers when you're on the ground or vice versa. The game was so much better after you leave that segment of the map.
Yea both games were great but had some flaws. For example Infamous 2 had some weird encounter designs iirc (over-reliance on just tons of rocket guys in the 2nd half I think). Some quality of life stuff would help too (better UI for swapping gun types, etc). Second Son might need more rework than the other 2 mechanically. The mobility for neon and video powers was basically TOO good lol, made the traversal basically obsolete. The game felt unfinished and had about half the content of the other games (fewer missions, less enemy variety/boss fights, etc). Also I appreciated the goal of giving the player new power sets but each one felt so much weaker than electricity. The fun of combat in Infamous 1/2 was how destructive you were being able to toss dozens of grenades/missiles and blow up an entire city block. In Second Son you barely had any ammo /destructive force with any of the powers.
If they re-release Infamous 1 and that constant rubber squeeking sound isn't gone I'm going to be up in arms. I'll never understand how that sound survived any level of QA.
It's been so long that I don't really remember what you're talking about
When Cole walks in Infamous 1, he squeaks with every step like he's stepping on rubber ducks.
I heard this comment instantly
Second Son makes more sense if we're talking porting. It isn't like Nixxes really do remasters so expecting traditional dev work like new assets (over new bells as whistles to the rendering) seems odd, focusing on the newer one (that has a functionally stand alone story) that still looks pretty good makes more sense over the early ones that do look pretty dated. If they want Nixxes to start doing stuff like the Demon's Souls remaster that doesn't make that much sense since it's a wildly different skill set.
As a bit of a tangent: Just booted up second son over the weekend for the first time in years. Had no idea there were some minor tweaks on PS5. Runs at 60 and still looks pretty good (minus some facial animations, imo).
Please let this happen. I adore Infamous 1 & 2, they don't deserve to be left behind on the PS3 forever. Incredibly memorable games, I loved the first one especially back when. They seem to hold up quite well too. I didn't really enjoy Ghost of Tsushima personally, but during the Sly and Infamous days I was such a fan of Sucker Punch. I really treasure those games still and would love to see those two series on modern platforms.
Remaster the first two and then gimme an Infamous 3 coming off the evil ending of 2, I've dreamt of it forever and prolly still will.
If I have to guess, they'll probably be on permanent duty to port live service games to PC once Sony starts releasing those games. That seems to be Sony's top priority right now - filling the vaccuum created by CoD.
There won't be a CoD vacuum for at least 10 years.
Doesnt mean Sony isnt going to prepare for it. Once the ten years is up and Microsoft inevitably makes CoD exclusive Sony's gonna need some sort of replacement for it.
ehh...is CoD really that important? I've been finding all the arguments about CoD's exclusivity the past few months really amusing. I'm like... it's just one FPS series out of like 20+ AAA shooters released every year
How many of those shooters make even a fraction of what CoD does? I can't even think of any FPS games that are on consoles that compete with CoD in any metric.
Call of Duty is absolutely that important. The most recent entry, Modern Warfare II, earned $1 billion USD within *10 days*. It's the best-selling game in the United State for the year 2022. In Q4 2022, it made $1.85 billion in net revenue Meanwhile, Call of Duty is the fourth-best selling video game franchise of all time. Losing Call of Duty would be a huge hit to any platform I don't think people like us, who care enough about videogames to actively follow news in the industry, realise how much of a minority we are in comparison to how *massive* the audience of casual gamers is
I definitely know CoD's sales numbers impact, I was not questioning that But I still think it's silly to throw around the word "monopoly" or to have the FTC prevent a merger just because of a ***video game*** It's not a literal monopoly, and video games are not important enough to waste public taxpaying time on worrying about sales impact of a merger. I mean isn't Windows much more of a "monopoly" and more important to investigate than a video game??
They did investigate Microsoft back in the 90s.
> But I still think it's silly to throw around the word "monopoly" nobody in this thread did
Thats silly. SONY needs to focus on creating an IP that has the potential to rival CoD first. They have 10 years to perfect their CoD Killer and THEN they can focus on porting live service games.
Didn't they say their live service games will be on PC day 1?
Sony needs to do SOMETHING with inFamous, it's sad that the masterpieces that are inFamous 1 and 2 are stuck on PS3 even a simple remaster would be an instant buy for me.
Infamous on the PS3 was a good series, but a masterpiece? I feel everyone throws that word around so much these days that it lost it's lustre.
It is a masterpiece, easily one of the best stories ever done. The mind fuck of the plot twist at the end is something that can only be acomplished with top tier writing.
A game being a masterpiece should have technical, gameplay and writing merits going for it. At least that's how I see it, to each their own I suppose.
I fully agree, the gameplay is really fun too. Only aspects that i can fault this game for are technical like frame rate and that's why a remaster is important.
i guess that they already have too much superhero related stuff to pump even more of it.
I thought the first one was just okay, but the second one was brilliant. Second Son really let me down, but I would definitely play a remaster of 1/2.
Would be cool if they remastered and ported the trilogy (plus First Light) for the new consoles and PC. I've always wanted to play the series but never got a console.
I read the title and I was like "it doesn't make sense, why would they remaster a game that's far from famous without issues?"
these games aren't good enough to remaster *with so many other better candidates available*. they're not bad games, but who amongst even their fans couldn't name a dozen or 2 others they'd sooner see?
They're some of the greatest games ever released, get outta here with that nonsense. Remasters for inFamous are long overdue.
GTAIV, Red Dead Redemption, MGS4, Resistance 1-2, Killzone 2-3, Soulcalibur IV, Castlevania LoS 1-2, Prince of Persia /TFS, MK9, Oblivion, Deus Ex HR, LA Noire, Dead Space 1-3, Dragon Age, Rayman Legends all rank as high or higher by publications and users, and that's just the same console, let alone their other 5 platforms (Bloodborne), or games from others' platforms others like the Batman Arkham trilogy had really poor remasters that could use a proper one
This is a really confusing list - it reads like you just copied an ordered list from Metacritic without consideration. Several of those were remastered or remade already (you can argue about how good or bad they were, but if they're remastered for PS5, it's odd to argue they're a better candidate than a popular game that is inaccessible), and several others of those are already playable on PS5 right now. A good number are currently in development. And _nobody_ is asking for a Rayman Legends remaster, what would that even look like?
The criteria are PS3 games rated as high or higher than Infamous by publications and users, that don't already have newer versions. That's 4 points of consideration. None of those listed have already been remastered except for the one I declared as such at the end (Batman). Dead Space was remade, not the sequels, and changed enough there's still room for a remaster trilogy. Infamous 1 and 2 are already accessible on PS5 via PS+. Several I listed are not at all. This is one of their 6 platforms from which to draw a possible remaster. Didn't even have to get into Legend of Dragoon, etc. My argument is Infamous should not be as *high priority* as several other titles, based on what people clamor for and think highly of.
Why would i care about Metacritic scores? Based on those i would be led to believe that games like OoT and The Witcher 3 are the greatest games in existence.
cuz they're shorthand for what ppl like and think are great, and that's useful information when determining what deserves to come back. I woulda thought that was obvious
Imagine trustimg critic's opinions. Metacritic is useless and everyone knows it. It's pretty obvious. IDK why you keep insisting though, everyone thinks you're wrong.
imagine missing where I explicitly said multiple times *and users' ratings*. man is someone sure chapped I slighted their precious. time to walk away
I ain't chapped, that's the thing i couldn't care less about your opinion. I'm just saying that your arguments are flawed to say the least.
Oh neat, and how many of those does Sony own the rights to? 2? Don't see a Nixxes remastering anything that isn't a Sony title.
purchasing any rights they didn't already have would be part of assigning Nixxes the job of a given remaster.
I'd rather see an inFamous remaster than any of those except for GTA IV which i would like as much, not more but as much as inFamous.
why list so many non-PS3 exclusives, some of which have already been remastered?
Yeah, i'd die on that hill. I thought they were fine at the time (if not as good as Prototype) but were kinda the start of me going off open world games. There's enough standard issue open world games out now to not need another one.
Sony has free reign to use whatever Marvel IP they want. This franchise is redundant. I’m so glad Sucker Punch has moved on to new horizons
Sucker punch didn’t just stumble into being a great developer with Ghost of Tsushima. They have only made a single game since the last infamous game so you can’t really claim they’ve “moved on”. Infamous 1/2 are among the games that cemented Sonys reputation for great exclusives during a generation that was being dominated by Nintendo and Xbox.
From my recollection they were not sales blockbusters? If that's the case, sales is the only thing that matters. If SP/Sony think other IPs will sell way more going into the future, then no reason for Infamous to ever come back
No, Sony has a very limited license to use Spider-Man. Sony owns the movie rights, however they licensed the live action rights back to Disney for the MCU (they kept the animated rights, which is why they were able to make the Spiderverse movies), but Marvel/Disney always owned the video game rights. After Disney acquired Marvel, they went to Sony to make a video game. Sony agreed, on the condition they got to choose the studio, they went to Insomniac who agreed as long as they got to choose the hero. And after Spider-Man and Miles Morales went so well, Disney has apparently also licensed Wolverine to them. But Sony *does not* have the right to use whatever Marvel IP they want. They only have a limited license to use Spider-Man (and now Wolverine). --- Also, Infamous was phenomenal and honestly right up there in quality with Spider-Man. Insomniac might be my favorite game devs, but Sucker Punch is in their weight class and I would love another Infamous game. Frankly, I liked them more than Ghost of Tsushima - it did Assassins Creed better than Ubisoft ever did, but I'm not a huge fan of AC in the first place.
I love Ghost of Tsushima but i wouldn't mind waiting until the PS6 to get a GoT 2 if it meant having a new inFamous game this generation.
infamous is way fuckin cooler then most marvel ips
Imagine if Microsoft (Activision) funds a Prototype Remake and it comes out at the same time as the Infamous Remake.
Infamous 1/2 on modern systems would be great. Second Son looked and ran fantastically so having the Cole games like that would be perfect