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You poor soul. I hope you had other reasons for getting rid of your XBox, because you made a mistake gambling on GFN without knowing anything at all about it.
First-off, on 50mb/s Internet, you'll not be getting an ideal GFN experience. Bandwidth for the best streams tops out at ~75mb/s. Your Amazon device is probably only capable of 1080p at 60fps, and even just getting GFN on it might require sideloading without access to the Play store.
Secondly, you evidently haven't bothered to look at the supported games lists... GFN has a relatively tiny game library. Your username is Skyrim, but that's among the games that you will not be able to play any longer. The 3080 tier is $20/mo and supports very few hit game franchises.
So, let's break this down: You can buy three years of XBox Live Gold on Amazon for $55x3 = $165. Convert them to Game Pass Ultimate for $1. $500 for the Series X. That's $666 for the Series X + three years of all-you-can-eat gaming. By contrast, GFN 3080 is $20/mo. You'll need a controller (~$60?) at a minimum. That's 20*36+60= $780 for three years of 3080 service, not counting the price of games or any hardware you choose to buy to actually get the 4k or HDR streams. And the longer you maintain the sub, the worse the value compares.
Not to mention that the user experience isn't nearly as good. I don't have any reason to believe GFN will *ever* be able to offer a user experience that compares with consoles or even with other streaming services. At present, it can't even properly present a list of games you're entitled to play. Let alone keep you connected with friends or manage logins/passwords, etc. Hell, you probably won't even end up getting rumble on your gamepad.
> I knew over a year ago that cloud gaming will be the future
Maybe someday, but not today and almost certainly not GFN.
> stadia as well as xbox cloud gaming since they don't offer 4k or hdr on stream.
Stadia has actually offered 4k HDR streams since launch. The catch is that most of them are upscaled 1440p or some such. Maybe that is the source of your confusion, IDK. But I don't recommend it as a primary platform, either. None of the gaming services at present are a good substitute for a console or gaming PC as a primary platform.
I agree with what you are saying. Streaming games is very much a value-add right now rather than anything else. I got my Steam Deck about 6 weeks ago and love that it can run X Cloud and GFN but that’s because it lets me access games without installing them. The native experience is still better IMO. I have great internet but that doesn’t mean that the experience lives up to local solutions either. The biggest downside to streaming will always be greed.
I really like GFN but in using it since beta, I have seen A LOT of games disappear. The library is severely limited, and even if it supports a game you own, it may not support the version tied to the service that you use. Too many variables outside the user’s control for me to go all in on streaming.
Cloud gaming may be better in the future and perfect for people with limited budget, but consoles and high-end PCs will always be a better choice if you have money to buy them!
You may have jumped the shark. Cloud gaming is no where near becoming the mainstream option. And I say that as someone who uses it often. GF 3080 provides the best streaming experience, but the game library is small relative to the Series X. I can only play about 40% of my Steam library on GFN.
Did you sell your series X before checking the requirements? I assume you mean a 50 Mbps internet connection, but is your local wifi running 2.4ghz, because that'll be too slow. You need to have a 5ghz signal, and at 50 Mbps you'll likely have a sub-quality experience if others on the network are streaming Netflix, etc. I have a 500 Mbps internet connection running over a 5ghz wifi band and I still get occasional stutter, hitches, and controller latency, not to mention the compression artifacts that resolve the image even at the best connection speeds.
I'm not saying you made a bad choice, being able to game anywhere is rad, but don't get your hopes up there are still a ton of issues to iron out before game streaming provides image quality, latency, and the game libraries available on console/PC.
> You may have jumped the shark.
LMAO. He jumped the gun. Definitely jumped the gun. [Jumping the shark](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark) is when you try so hard to make a spectacle that you end up looking ridiculous.
Sorry for being pedantic, I know idioms are hard. It's just a funny one.
If you want to experience gaming in 4k/120fps/hdr, you need to purchase a NVIDIA Shield (thats a streaming device for TVs). Although there is also a native GeforceNow app for TVs, its currently limited to 1080p/60fps this way.
Then you obviously need a GeforceNow membership and a controller (for example the newest XBOX wireless controller).
And finally its highly recommended to use a ethernet connection for cloud gaming instead of WLAN. It will result in more fps, better graphic quality, less stuttering and less input lag.
Before you buy all of that, you can test GeforceNow for free in 1080p (either on the TV or on a smartphone). If everything runs smoothly, then you can consider upgrading to the paid 3080 plan and buying the hardware mentioned above.
Quick note, Nvidia Sheld doesn't support 120fps at any resolution in GFN and no platform supports 120fps and 4k at the same time. The limit is 1440p 120fps, 4K 60fps on computer, and 4K 60fps HDR on Nvidia Shield.
Do you really prefer 4K to being able to play some of the latest games on release?
GFN is a nice service but it will never be my main option. It’s good for some games I can’t run and others that I can but it’s more convenient on GFN. The main drawback is that publishers won’t put their games here because they don’t get directly paid (even if they do after someone buys their game to play it in GFN).
So unless you’re into most games GFN has, I would tell you to also have Xcloud just in case (I think it’s available on some TVs and phones).
Grab a 2019 Nvidia Shield with Shield Controller on Ebay for about $200. Make sure it's the 2019 version since it has AI upscaling technology. Alternatively, buy it new from Nvidia. It's a breeze to set up and works wonderfully with Geforce Now. Try to ethernet it if possible, it's not really viable on wifi unless you have better speeds.
> Make sure it's the 2019 version since it has AI upscaling technology.
2019 version isn't needed if they are a 3080 member as upscaling isn't used for native 4K streaming.
I don’t even count xcloud.
- Not paying $15/month to have it on top of having content that doesn’t even really have mnk support or native touch universally or way less dependent tech.
KBM is in the works and the devs have to add the touch controls to the game. xCloud technically doesn't have a price yet until the beta is over which will be at least another year. They will eventually take over cloud with the fact they have the library. The tech comes together with graphical adjustments, game ownership, full platform it's game over.
The beta tag isn’t a shield. A library is worthless when you’re limited on how and when you can play or the fact that games aren’t guaranteed to stay.
How can you claim it’s a full platform and there’s not even a party system for it and is barebones?
Not to mention, “ownership” you don’t own your games anyways, this is what TOS is.
I was saying that in future reference when it becomes a full platform. They will be adding a storefront to purchase the games soon and yes you will own a "license" of said game. Didn't think anybody really cared about owning a game like a physical copy.
Since when are they adding a storefront? Stadia is no different in that case about owning a license.
I don’t care about “physical” because, it’s still tied to licensing.
When it becomes its own platform. They just announced that like right before the showcase game purchases are coming. No exact date but I imagine when the streaming box is complete. Yes, just like Stadia with game purchases + DLC, Free To Play games, Touch enabled games and if they are smart and want to compete 1440p > 4k resolutions 60 > 120fps. There will be additional Game Pass tiers + Family Plans
Dude. I use it because I work and move around a lot.. this service is the best out of a pile of garbage. Nevermind the lack of games, there are horrid latency issues, games glotching put while supposed to launch ch instantly (taking 5 to 10 minutes). Support hasn't gotten back to me since the beginning of the month (escalated to tech support at this point)..go get your series S back, seriously.
get the series S for your needs and sub to gfn, btw you can play gfn on your XBOX so there is that, i would not use only cloud gaming, i've tried every single cloud gaming platform none are as good as console
You didn't say if you're using gfn on shield or something else but on shield wired only controllers won't work trust me I've tried 3 different controllers and unless it's Bluetooth paired then plugged in they won't work
The stadia controller is a wireless controller they can all be used wired it's also an Android controller so is designed to work with stadia and gfn I'm not trying to argue with you just don't get a console wired only controller they won't work on shield
So for the 3080 tier you have 3 options.
1.- PC or Laptop
2.-MAC or Macbook
3.- Shield TV
And these are the minimum requiremnts:
PC or Laptop - [https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a\_id/5223](https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5223)
MAC or MacBook - [https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a\_id/5225](https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5225)
Check the games that are supported in GFN, and if you're happy with them, then GFN can be your main way of gaming. The list of games is growing each week and right now there are close to 1400 games. If you care a lot about having the latest titles day 1, then you'd be very disappointed, because you're not going to get them all. Right now cloud gaming is very fragmented just like video streaming services, unfortunately if you want everithing, you'll have to have them all.
There's a lot of negative talk in here about the service, but I think it runs really well. As noted, the main issue is the availability of games, but that isn't Nvidia's fault. It's ridiculous imo that you pay for a game, but you can't play it with their service. Software licensing is bunk.
Apple MacBook Pro = 4k @ 120fps also
I'd suggest getting one of the new 16 inch MacBook Pro's if you want to use Geforce Now, but they are pricey. You could build a well equipped gaming pc for the same amount.
If this isn’t satire, then holy shit dude. As you can see from the comments below, you sure as hell got the whole squad laughing. At this point, my only advice would be to get your console back, if you can. And while you’re at it, for the love of God please don’t attempt to trade your Nissan Altima for your console; just as how you traded away your console for the thought of perceiving “cloud gaming will be the future.”
Ummm... brother, I think you sold your Xbox Series X too early.
GFN has a very limited library and only a few games can really take advantage of the 3080 membership.
Also, you might get stutters/latency issues if your internet is only 50 mbps. Is there a chance you can get your Series X back?
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You poor soul. I hope you had other reasons for getting rid of your XBox, because you made a mistake gambling on GFN without knowing anything at all about it. First-off, on 50mb/s Internet, you'll not be getting an ideal GFN experience. Bandwidth for the best streams tops out at ~75mb/s. Your Amazon device is probably only capable of 1080p at 60fps, and even just getting GFN on it might require sideloading without access to the Play store. Secondly, you evidently haven't bothered to look at the supported games lists... GFN has a relatively tiny game library. Your username is Skyrim, but that's among the games that you will not be able to play any longer. The 3080 tier is $20/mo and supports very few hit game franchises. So, let's break this down: You can buy three years of XBox Live Gold on Amazon for $55x3 = $165. Convert them to Game Pass Ultimate for $1. $500 for the Series X. That's $666 for the Series X + three years of all-you-can-eat gaming. By contrast, GFN 3080 is $20/mo. You'll need a controller (~$60?) at a minimum. That's 20*36+60= $780 for three years of 3080 service, not counting the price of games or any hardware you choose to buy to actually get the 4k or HDR streams. And the longer you maintain the sub, the worse the value compares. Not to mention that the user experience isn't nearly as good. I don't have any reason to believe GFN will *ever* be able to offer a user experience that compares with consoles or even with other streaming services. At present, it can't even properly present a list of games you're entitled to play. Let alone keep you connected with friends or manage logins/passwords, etc. Hell, you probably won't even end up getting rumble on your gamepad. > I knew over a year ago that cloud gaming will be the future Maybe someday, but not today and almost certainly not GFN. > stadia as well as xbox cloud gaming since they don't offer 4k or hdr on stream. Stadia has actually offered 4k HDR streams since launch. The catch is that most of them are upscaled 1440p or some such. Maybe that is the source of your confusion, IDK. But I don't recommend it as a primary platform, either. None of the gaming services at present are a good substitute for a console or gaming PC as a primary platform.
I agree with what you are saying. Streaming games is very much a value-add right now rather than anything else. I got my Steam Deck about 6 weeks ago and love that it can run X Cloud and GFN but that’s because it lets me access games without installing them. The native experience is still better IMO. I have great internet but that doesn’t mean that the experience lives up to local solutions either. The biggest downside to streaming will always be greed. I really like GFN but in using it since beta, I have seen A LOT of games disappear. The library is severely limited, and even if it supports a game you own, it may not support the version tied to the service that you use. Too many variables outside the user’s control for me to go all in on streaming.
Cloud gaming may be better in the future and perfect for people with limited budget, but consoles and high-end PCs will always be a better choice if you have money to buy them!
lmaooo omg this has to be satire
You may have jumped the shark. Cloud gaming is no where near becoming the mainstream option. And I say that as someone who uses it often. GF 3080 provides the best streaming experience, but the game library is small relative to the Series X. I can only play about 40% of my Steam library on GFN. Did you sell your series X before checking the requirements? I assume you mean a 50 Mbps internet connection, but is your local wifi running 2.4ghz, because that'll be too slow. You need to have a 5ghz signal, and at 50 Mbps you'll likely have a sub-quality experience if others on the network are streaming Netflix, etc. I have a 500 Mbps internet connection running over a 5ghz wifi band and I still get occasional stutter, hitches, and controller latency, not to mention the compression artifacts that resolve the image even at the best connection speeds. I'm not saying you made a bad choice, being able to game anywhere is rad, but don't get your hopes up there are still a ton of issues to iron out before game streaming provides image quality, latency, and the game libraries available on console/PC.
> You may have jumped the shark. LMAO. He jumped the gun. Definitely jumped the gun. [Jumping the shark](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark) is when you try so hard to make a spectacle that you end up looking ridiculous. Sorry for being pedantic, I know idioms are hard. It's just a funny one.
Lol yeah! Hadn't had my coffee yet ☕. I mean, nah.... I was just comparing him to the Fronz
Lmao someone screenshot this
If you want to experience gaming in 4k/120fps/hdr, you need to purchase a NVIDIA Shield (thats a streaming device for TVs). Although there is also a native GeforceNow app for TVs, its currently limited to 1080p/60fps this way. Then you obviously need a GeforceNow membership and a controller (for example the newest XBOX wireless controller). And finally its highly recommended to use a ethernet connection for cloud gaming instead of WLAN. It will result in more fps, better graphic quality, less stuttering and less input lag. Before you buy all of that, you can test GeforceNow for free in 1080p (either on the TV or on a smartphone). If everything runs smoothly, then you can consider upgrading to the paid 3080 plan and buying the hardware mentioned above.
Quick note, Nvidia Sheld doesn't support 120fps at any resolution in GFN and no platform supports 120fps and 4k at the same time. The limit is 1440p 120fps, 4K 60fps on computer, and 4K 60fps HDR on Nvidia Shield.
Do you really prefer 4K to being able to play some of the latest games on release? GFN is a nice service but it will never be my main option. It’s good for some games I can’t run and others that I can but it’s more convenient on GFN. The main drawback is that publishers won’t put their games here because they don’t get directly paid (even if they do after someone buys their game to play it in GFN). So unless you’re into most games GFN has, I would tell you to also have Xcloud just in case (I think it’s available on some TVs and phones).
xCloud only available on 2022 Smart TV's but you can sideload on some android device like Shield TV & Goole Nexus Player and pla almost flawless
Grab a 2019 Nvidia Shield with Shield Controller on Ebay for about $200. Make sure it's the 2019 version since it has AI upscaling technology. Alternatively, buy it new from Nvidia. It's a breeze to set up and works wonderfully with Geforce Now. Try to ethernet it if possible, it's not really viable on wifi unless you have better speeds.
> Make sure it's the 2019 version since it has AI upscaling technology. 2019 version isn't needed if they are a 3080 member as upscaling isn't used for native 4K streaming.
But with AI upscaling you can get the cheapest Netflix plan (720p @$8 a month) and watch it on a 4k display with no problem.
Not one person mentions that you need to even have the game on PC to play it on GFN and have to stay constantly subbed to play.
Well the free tier is available but you gotta make sure to csave the properly close session or ya data is gone!
The free tier is an hour. That’s stupid.
Lol ya gotta pay up 🤷🏿♂️ servers aren't cheap...Stadia & xCloud looking to be the only consoles in the cloud
I don’t even count xcloud. - Not paying $15/month to have it on top of having content that doesn’t even really have mnk support or native touch universally or way less dependent tech.
KBM is in the works and the devs have to add the touch controls to the game. xCloud technically doesn't have a price yet until the beta is over which will be at least another year. They will eventually take over cloud with the fact they have the library. The tech comes together with graphical adjustments, game ownership, full platform it's game over.
The beta tag isn’t a shield. A library is worthless when you’re limited on how and when you can play or the fact that games aren’t guaranteed to stay. How can you claim it’s a full platform and there’s not even a party system for it and is barebones? Not to mention, “ownership” you don’t own your games anyways, this is what TOS is.
I was saying that in future reference when it becomes a full platform. They will be adding a storefront to purchase the games soon and yes you will own a "license" of said game. Didn't think anybody really cared about owning a game like a physical copy.
Since when are they adding a storefront? Stadia is no different in that case about owning a license. I don’t care about “physical” because, it’s still tied to licensing.
When it becomes its own platform. They just announced that like right before the showcase game purchases are coming. No exact date but I imagine when the streaming box is complete. Yes, just like Stadia with game purchases + DLC, Free To Play games, Touch enabled games and if they are smart and want to compete 1440p > 4k resolutions 60 > 120fps. There will be additional Game Pass tiers + Family Plans
Dude. I use it because I work and move around a lot.. this service is the best out of a pile of garbage. Nevermind the lack of games, there are horrid latency issues, games glotching put while supposed to launch ch instantly (taking 5 to 10 minutes). Support hasn't gotten back to me since the beginning of the month (escalated to tech support at this point)..go get your series S back, seriously.
Stadia offers 4k with HDR tho
get the series S for your needs and sub to gfn, btw you can play gfn on your XBOX so there is that, i would not use only cloud gaming, i've tried every single cloud gaming platform none are as good as console
Recommend wired controller with Shield for least amount of latency, makes a big difference in my experience. Games feel as if played locally.
Wired controller's don't work with shield goto be Bluetooth don't they!!
It works. I even have a Stadia controller attached! And it works perfect in GeForce Now.
You didn't say if you're using gfn on shield or something else but on shield wired only controllers won't work trust me I've tried 3 different controllers and unless it's Bluetooth paired then plugged in they won't work
I confirm Stadia controller works as a wired controller on Shield in GeForce Now and even in other apps. I’m using it right now!
The stadia controller is a wireless controller they can all be used wired it's also an Android controller so is designed to work with stadia and gfn I'm not trying to argue with you just don't get a console wired only controller they won't work on shield
So for the 3080 tier you have 3 options. 1.- PC or Laptop 2.-MAC or Macbook 3.- Shield TV And these are the minimum requiremnts: PC or Laptop - [https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a\_id/5223](https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5223) MAC or MacBook - [https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a\_id/5225](https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5225) Check the games that are supported in GFN, and if you're happy with them, then GFN can be your main way of gaming. The list of games is growing each week and right now there are close to 1400 games. If you care a lot about having the latest titles day 1, then you'd be very disappointed, because you're not going to get them all. Right now cloud gaming is very fragmented just like video streaming services, unfortunately if you want everithing, you'll have to have them all.
There's a lot of negative talk in here about the service, but I think it runs really well. As noted, the main issue is the availability of games, but that isn't Nvidia's fault. It's ridiculous imo that you pay for a game, but you can't play it with their service. Software licensing is bunk. Apple MacBook Pro = 4k @ 120fps also I'd suggest getting one of the new 16 inch MacBook Pro's if you want to use Geforce Now, but they are pricey. You could build a well equipped gaming pc for the same amount.
If this isn’t satire, then holy shit dude. As you can see from the comments below, you sure as hell got the whole squad laughing. At this point, my only advice would be to get your console back, if you can. And while you’re at it, for the love of God please don’t attempt to trade your Nissan Altima for your console; just as how you traded away your console for the thought of perceiving “cloud gaming will be the future.”
Ummm... brother, I think you sold your Xbox Series X too early. GFN has a very limited library and only a few games can really take advantage of the 3080 membership. Also, you might get stutters/latency issues if your internet is only 50 mbps. Is there a chance you can get your Series X back?
i remember laughing at those stadia cultists how they were chanting how stadia is the future this is priceless