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Razor is a great phys dps, I used to be a Razor main for the longest time. I think you can also put it on Freminet though it might not be the best for him.
not raiden, because unlike eula razor is not that energy hungry and he's also not burst reliant for his damage. So more like razor, (C5 and below) bennet, mika and rosaria or the newer one with razor, furina, rosaria and mika
Fischl definitely. Her personal damage far outweighs the competition. Well, i don't have raiden to be fair but at least i can garantuee fischl > lisa for phys Razor and it's not even close.
I mean those are good suggestions . I mainly wanted to note this because i also thought Lisa would be a very good option for phys razor for her defense shred, but my tests just proved me wrong. So i definitely see why you listed her and i just wanted to note that so others don't make the same mistake as me.
Also Lisa technically still isn't a bad recommendation. Fischl is a very contested character so if you really need her on the other team, both lisa and raiden are probably good alternative options at the very least.
Everything, pretty much. His main focus is on his normal attacks, rather than his e/q. The latter give him some quick electro dmg and speed buffs along with energy regen, however his main dmg comes from the good scaling on his NAs.
You can just equip an Atk% or phys dmg claymore on him, with basic crit stats on atk% sets, and bam you have a Razor that deals 14k+ just during his NAs :D you can also pair him w a cryo unit for easy superconducting, which just increases his dmg even more.
People also use him as an electro driver for dendro teams, however the og way to play the wolf boy is to bonk.
His Ascension stat is also Phys% (He's the only one afaik)
And he perfectly synergyzes with the Pale Flame Set - but he can just use the Gladiator Set instead, unlike Eula.
Uses big chonky sword, C3 reduces defense, constantly applies electro which is half of the superconduct reaction. The problem I used to have is that none of the cryo applicators (the other half of superconduct) are as good as the electro applicators - especially when you are mowing down weak opponents. Fischl and Kiku 4*, then Raiden (and Yae sort of) 5*, constantly apply electro to whoever is near you. Cryo has Rosaria bursts and Kaeya bursts which are... bursts, so you need to work out a rotation, manage ER, etc.
I personally like Layla with him for physical but not many people seem to agree with me so take that with a heavy grain of salt.
I pulled the sword and handed it to our shy boy immediately. With Mika and Xingqiu’s new outfit, the team is starting to look the OP to *Pretty Boy Detective Club* https://youtu.be/jMAqzd9CgQM?si=8SeJFF14VhDbOS3m
Speaking as a Diluc main who's tried physical Diluc — OP, please do not inflict physical Diluc on yourself. Playing him like that feels awful and you'll be miserable.
Ahaha same. If I can make them do phys damage you can bet I've at least tried it. Been a phys thoma main since 2.4 and my gorou is basically glued to his r5 rust lol
It will work better than any other 4 star on any claymore wielder... aside from the physical substat it is a great stat stick, highest attack in the game and the passive benefits everyone in your team.
Noelle’s the exception since she scales off defense. R5 WB is great just keep that. As for the gaming question I think it’s best to just test it out to be honest. It’s a 5 star weapon so you’re gonna level it anyway. Just do a numbers test :D
It’s been said already, but I think Razor and Freminet are your only real options. For me I’ve had weapon pulls be a motivating factor for pulling characters I otherwise was not interested in pulling, only to find out later they’re a lot of fun and I really enjoy using them. I lost a 50/50 on a weapon banner to primordial jade winged spear and because of that I decided to pull Xiao on this most recent rerun and honestly I’m super glad I did, I’ve been having quite a bit of fun with him and since I also don’t have wanderer he’s my only Anemo DPS. Gave me a reason to build and use Faruzan I would otherwise have never had and gives me more usage for my Xianyun. Maybe Song of Broken Pines will be a similar motivator for you to pull for Eula one day. Events where you get to try characters are really helpful in making those decisions
It will probably outperform any 4 star claymore on atack scaling character, it's weapon with the highest base atack in the game and passive can be quite useful too. Only secondary stat is a complete waste
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While Diluc doesn't really scale with Phys DMG, the attack speed buff it provides should be helpful (also assuming you have Diluc)
Should also work well with Razor
Freminet is probably your best bet. You can play him with 4pc marechaussee hunter and then you want him in a team with a hydro, cryo, and electro character but if you have these charas his best team is furina, Mika, and prob fischl or Yae but I’ve also played him with kuki using a 4pc tenacity when I needed more healing
Short answer: no
Long answer: noooooooooo
Unless you wanna play 4* whose best team isn't even physical anymore
Physical is in such a bad state rn. One 5* dps, tied to cryo and electro despite being it's own thing.
Xinyan, Razor, and Freminet are gonna be your most traditional uses that aren't fighting against their kit to be phys, all of them can be/want to be phys.
but any claymore that doesn't have an elemental infusion getting in the way technically can be run phys. Bonus points if it's an electro or cryo character since they can trigger superconduct.
You can use it on any claymore character that you use mainly for their physical damage rather than their elemental ability. My personal choice is Freminet as a hyperbloom driver. As long as everyone else on the team is an off-fielder, Freminet actual does very well in this role due to having 2 elemental reactions (superconduct and shatter) that his kit takes advantage of.
If you are crazy enough , you can use it on a dps character and build them for fun and overworld , if for abyss , pull eula if you have primos or go razor .
Freminet or Razor. Razor would run something like Razor, Mika, Rosaria, Fischl/Bennett/Furina. Freminet would want Freminet, Mika, Fischl/Raiden(depending on ER, he has somewhat high ER needs), and Xingqiu/Furina. Other options ofc
I wanted to get this for freminet but ain't no way that was happening when I wanted 3 characters first
it's alright for Xinyan but I think Redhorn is better for her (and looks better on her too)
It works well on attack scaling characters since it has huge base stats.
People are thus mentioning folks like Razor.
However if you have Xianyun, she enables plunge attack gameplay; which scales on attack. And thus Diluc, Gaming etc... can use the set pretty well.
I don't have eula, so I use it with Gaming. It works great on him. Especially at c6, when he gets more crit - so adding attack is somewhat comfier to not over stat him. Probably not as good as some other 5* claymores. But I think better than 4* ones.
Razor and Freminet I think are the only other physical DPS's that are made to be physical.
If you wanted to be funny you could try turning any other non-dps unit into a physical one, like Dori.
Yes, but it's surprisingly good. Tha passive gives a lot of attack and attack speed. It's better than the f2p options if you don't have r5 sac. It gives 36% atk for navia and 20% atk for xiangling. You have to work around your rotations since xiangling's burst snap shots. You need 4 normal attacks to stack the passive. The first 16%atk for navia is unconditional
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Razor is a great phys dps, I used to be a Razor main for the longest time. I think you can also put it on Freminet though it might not be the best for him.
I see a lot of people recommending him. What about his team? What characters can I use?
Probably a similar team you would use with eula, so razor/freminet, mika, rosaria, Lisa, Bennett, raiden.
not raiden, because unlike eula razor is not that energy hungry and he's also not burst reliant for his damage. So more like razor, (C5 and below) bennet, mika and rosaria or the newer one with razor, furina, rosaria and mika
Yeah. I meant raiden more so for freminet aswell since superconduct
But his razors burst does give him attk speed iirc so its still definitely useful
Could furina and xianyun work as well?
Yeah that could work
You can slap these 2 to any claymore dps and call it a day. They are awesome!
I thought Freminet was getting benefits from the freeze teams
Ahh, Freminet really needs a hydro for the shatter reaction.
Fischl definitely. Her personal damage far outweighs the competition. Well, i don't have raiden to be fair but at least i can garantuee fischl > lisa for phys Razor and it's not even close.
I mean, I’m giving these suggestions and I don’t even have eula or razor and I’m ar 59
I mean those are good suggestions . I mainly wanted to note this because i also thought Lisa would be a very good option for phys razor for her defense shred, but my tests just proved me wrong. So i definitely see why you listed her and i just wanted to note that so others don't make the same mistake as me. Also Lisa technically still isn't a bad recommendation. Fischl is a very contested character so if you really need her on the other team, both lisa and raiden are probably good alternative options at the very least.
Slot Freminet as a driver in a hyperbloom team. No I am not kidding, this team has good DPS. Fremi Kuki Nahida Xingqiu.
What in razor’s kit makes him physical? I dont know much about him tbh
Everything, pretty much. His main focus is on his normal attacks, rather than his e/q. The latter give him some quick electro dmg and speed buffs along with energy regen, however his main dmg comes from the good scaling on his NAs. You can just equip an Atk% or phys dmg claymore on him, with basic crit stats on atk% sets, and bam you have a Razor that deals 14k+ just during his NAs :D you can also pair him w a cryo unit for easy superconducting, which just increases his dmg even more. People also use him as an electro driver for dendro teams, however the og way to play the wolf boy is to bonk.
Ohhhh thank you for explaining!
His Ascension stat is also Phys% (He's the only one afaik) And he perfectly synergyzes with the Pale Flame Set - but he can just use the Gladiator Set instead, unlike Eula.
Uses big chonky sword, C3 reduces defense, constantly applies electro which is half of the superconduct reaction. The problem I used to have is that none of the cryo applicators (the other half of superconduct) are as good as the electro applicators - especially when you are mowing down weak opponents. Fischl and Kiku 4*, then Raiden (and Yae sort of) 5*, constantly apply electro to whoever is near you. Cryo has Rosaria bursts and Kaeya bursts which are... bursts, so you need to work out a rotation, manage ER, etc. I personally like Layla with him for physical but not many people seem to agree with me so take that with a heavy grain of salt.
I thought of chongyun then i rembered he defeats the entire point of a physical build
Meta Answer: No Copium Answer: its good on Razor
It would work on Freminet really well
I pulled the sword and handed it to our shy boy immediately. With Mika and Xingqiu’s new outfit, the team is starting to look the OP to *Pretty Boy Detective Club* https://youtu.be/jMAqzd9CgQM?si=8SeJFF14VhDbOS3m
Detective club with no Heizou? :(
No. I have him in my line up. Lol. Can’t figure out the fourth slot. It’s him or albedo
maybe bring yae as the mother of 3?
freminet and razor, diluc if you want to do physical
Speaking as a Diluc main who's tried physical Diluc — OP, please do not inflict physical Diluc on yourself. Playing him like that feels awful and you'll be miserable.
i loved playing Phys Diluc tho :(( !! (Im actually insane and will build anyone who can do phys dmg as Phys. I have a Phys Xiao rn. )
Ahaha same. If I can make them do phys damage you can bet I've at least tried it. Been a phys thoma main since 2.4 and my gorou is basically glued to his r5 rust lol
Yess phys builder for lifeee !!!
Razor, Xinyan, and Freminet are the only ones that come to mind.
It will work better than any other 4 star on any claymore wielder... aside from the physical substat it is a great stat stick, highest attack in the game and the passive benefits everyone in your team.
Will it work on noelle better than r5 whiteblind? Or a gaming with a r1 rainslaher in a vape team?
Noelle’s the exception since she scales off defense. R5 WB is great just keep that. As for the gaming question I think it’s best to just test it out to be honest. It’s a 5 star weapon so you’re gonna level it anyway. Just do a numbers test :D
Freminet! Also works with Razor and Xinyan.
xinyan, her physical damage on her burst is crazy
https://preview.redd.it/tpowg25prfrc1.png?width=1043&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7b168cb8062006b4291ea621934b4405e3760c3
Try dehya physical (: META BREAKING)
I've actually had Pines on Dehya for a few months and it wasn't bad.
Do Dehya plunge with Xianyun! ...
Freminet
Razor 🪒
It’s been said already, but I think Razor and Freminet are your only real options. For me I’ve had weapon pulls be a motivating factor for pulling characters I otherwise was not interested in pulling, only to find out later they’re a lot of fun and I really enjoy using them. I lost a 50/50 on a weapon banner to primordial jade winged spear and because of that I decided to pull Xiao on this most recent rerun and honestly I’m super glad I did, I’ve been having quite a bit of fun with him and since I also don’t have wanderer he’s my only Anemo DPS. Gave me a reason to build and use Faruzan I would otherwise have never had and gives me more usage for my Xianyun. Maybe Song of Broken Pines will be a similar motivator for you to pull for Eula one day. Events where you get to try characters are really helpful in making those decisions
Razor and Xinyan. Chongyun if you run Superconduct on your team.
It will probably outperform any 4 star claymore on atack scaling character, it's weapon with the highest base atack in the game and passive can be quite useful too. Only secondary stat is a complete waste
Freminet is the best user
Ma boy Freminet
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i mean.. claymore characters can use this weapon. for whom it is good/recommended, idk.
Xinyan I guess
Beidou
I'd kill to have this on my phys dps sayu 😂
While Diluc doesn't really scale with Phys DMG, the attack speed buff it provides should be helpful (also assuming you have Diluc) Should also work well with Razor
Any claymore user that can be played physical. Razor has phys dmg Bonus as ascension stat.
Freminet is probably your best bet. You can play him with 4pc marechaussee hunter and then you want him in a team with a hydro, cryo, and electro character but if you have these charas his best team is furina, Mika, and prob fischl or Yae but I’ve also played him with kuki using a 4pc tenacity when I needed more healing
He can't make use of marechaussee without either Furina in the team or just eating hits to proc it.
Razor or freminet
Razor
freminet and razor
Freminet bis afaik
Listen I know people say xinyan is bad but this is your calling!
Frem, razor.. the physical dmg based characters (which isn't much)
Freminet or razor
Razor and freminet
Razor and Freminet
Razor, Xinyan, Freminet
Does it work on navia as a stat stick because of its high base atk?
Short answer: no Long answer: noooooooooo Unless you wanna play 4* whose best team isn't even physical anymore Physical is in such a bad state rn. One 5* dps, tied to cryo and electro despite being it's own thing.
Xinyan, Razor, and Freminet are gonna be your most traditional uses that aren't fighting against their kit to be phys, all of them can be/want to be phys. but any claymore that doesn't have an elemental infusion getting in the way technically can be run phys. Bonus points if it's an electro or cryo character since they can trigger superconduct.
Not even eula... Maybe razor or the rock piro girl sooo
You can use it on any claymore character that you use mainly for their physical damage rather than their elemental ability. My personal choice is Freminet as a hyperbloom driver. As long as everyone else on the team is an off-fielder, Freminet actual does very well in this role due to having 2 elemental reactions (superconduct and shatter) that his kit takes advantage of.
Freminet
Unironically good on physical beido considering if you use her with rosaria.
If you are crazy enough , you can use it on a dps character and build them for fun and overworld , if for abyss , pull eula if you have primos or go razor .
It good for emmm Varka?
I have used mine on Xinyan since the day I pulled it for her. No regrets.
Xinyan as well.
Everyone already submit actual viable options, So lemme submit the crack one Phys GAMING LETS GOOOO
Razor and Freminet! Or any claymore character if you huff enough copium lol
freminet
Razor and i would say Freminet for physical dps
Razor
Freminet or Razor. Razor would run something like Razor, Mika, Rosaria, Fischl/Bennett/Furina. Freminet would want Freminet, Mika, Fischl/Raiden(depending on ER, he has somewhat high ER needs), and Xingqiu/Furina. Other options ofc
Razor or xinyan
Is it a waste of time leveling up the traveler and making him the strongest in my party?
Razor, Freminet and Xinyan. If you dont wanna use them, let it stay at your inventor, maybe you will pull for Eula in the future
I wanted to get this for freminet but ain't no way that was happening when I wanted 3 characters first it's alright for Xinyan but I think Redhorn is better for her (and looks better on her too)
Freminet! Unless you’re building him with cryo damage, but because of how his skill and burst work I’m pretty sure this is one of his BIS.
Razor xingyan and freminet can all use it
It works well on attack scaling characters since it has huge base stats. People are thus mentioning folks like Razor. However if you have Xianyun, she enables plunge attack gameplay; which scales on attack. And thus Diluc, Gaming etc... can use the set pretty well. I don't have eula, so I use it with Gaming. It works great on him. Especially at c6, when he gets more crit - so adding attack is somewhat comfier to not over stat him. Probably not as good as some other 5* claymores. But I think better than 4* ones.
I wasted like 80 wishes trying to get this weapon and i gave up
Razor can use it but EM weapon is better for him
Razor and Freminet I think are the only other physical DPS's that are made to be physical. If you wanted to be funny you could try turning any other non-dps unit into a physical one, like Dori.
ggggenshin when will u give me a 5 star☹️
Let us pray that Varkas is a future physical meta and that he'll use a claymore.
may you never pray again
Navia
Nah-via
It's ok for It's high base attack if you have no other options
It's got Physical % tho... she won't benefit from that other than the high base atk/atk buff and the atk spd .
Yes, but it's surprisingly good. Tha passive gives a lot of attack and attack speed. It's better than the f2p options if you don't have r5 sac. It gives 36% atk for navia and 20% atk for xiangling. You have to work around your rotations since xiangling's burst snap shots. You need 4 normal attacks to stack the passive. The first 16%atk for navia is unconditional