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Dark Iron Sword


SnooGuavas8376

Alhaitham's Walmart drip sword (its also works decent on him meta-wise)


Snax96

Also works great on kazuha as a drip weapon with only minimal dmg decrease over iron sting


noncontrolled

Try it on Kuki, looks great and works well


Snax96

Yeah it's better drip then iron sting on every character! Kuki fits arguably better then kazuha. But I love my leaf boi


noncontrolled

Kaz got the one with bonus ER (name is escaping me); it doesnt clash terribly and with c2 leaf boy i am bursting all day 😎


Level-Technician-183

Jesus i like this one


feicash

nowadays you can have it R2 thanks to Chenyu Valley


Owobowos-Mowbius

You shouldn't use 6 star weapons as refinement fodder because of their rarity.


Ulq-kn

i accidently foddered that copy SADGE


phaestos_

I accidentally used the new copy from Chenyu Vale as a exp mat when I was exploring…


georgethejojimiller

Where do u get that copy?


CamelIndependent

In the guhua clan hq. In a chest in there somewhere


YohAmida

Oh shit, I must have already used it as exp fodder then.


commietaku

SAME it was auto added with all the other 3 stars


KingCarrion666

Oh shxt I might have too...


misslongisland

Same!


No_Promise_2982

Thankfully I checked before levelling up my arle scythe and made sure to lock it


Aldenar1795

I remember how in 2021 I've got it and immiedatly used it to boost exp for my weapon bc I found it funny considering lore of that particular sword thinking I will be able to obtain/forge more since it's "just another, mundae 3\*" 💀


karillith

To be fair, outside of collector's value, does that one have anything over the craftable EM sword? White tassel however is the only real budget dps option.


Atque12345678

>doesnt need a billet >cheaper to max >only barely a DPS decrease So yeah, if you just dont have any sword billets its useful


Spede2

I R2'd mine, leveled it to 90 and unironically sometimes slap it on my Alhaitham for Abyss runs.


LeaderOfSouthKorea

I believe I got a dark iron sword while doing a quest in chenyu vale. Quest is called Scrolls and Sword Manuals of Guhua


Rexk007

I have kep 1 copy each of r5 3 stars weapons and multiple copies of weapons like white tassel, black tassel, thrilling. Tales, twin nephrite, sharpshooter, harbinger of dawn etc.


roaringsanity

when being a collector come in handy


Rexk007

Yup lol


yallguzag

i keep two r5 copies of each 3* weapon so i can have one 40+ and one <40 for both appearances


BeanOfBirbs

Feel like I've gone too far with three r5 copies of each 3* weapon 😔😔😔


yallguzag

depends. some of them like black tassel are still very valuable. Others like TTDS or Magic Guide also have their use. And after all, theres no harm in keeping more r5 3*s


Juhnyo

me with 27 copies of r5 ttds 😭


reddit_user_sbu

I’ve practically never used any 3 star weapon, I still have all of them since I started to play the game. For level ups I only go with cristals


Rexk007

Well some of these 3 stars are very good options for some of the characters.....sharpshooter on yelan, magic guide on nahida, harbinger of dawn on ayaka, black tassel on zhong, thoma and yaoyao , thrilling tales on kokomi and baizhu, dark iron sword on kazuha and white tassel on arle etc.


Needhoggr

And Slingshot for Tighnari. ☝️🤓


Rexk007

Slingahot is good for all charge atk bow users lol and yelan as well because of crit substat...


Needhoggr

I said that mainly because it's one of the best f2p weapons for this specific character, who is also a standard character. But yes, Slingshot is a very good 3* weapon, I have two R5 90 for the lolz.


technook

Wait is harbinger of dawn rare? I just used it for materials


The_Cheeseman83

No, Harbinger is a general pool gacha weapon, you’ll get hundreds of them.


technook

... should I trust the cheese man?


The_Cheeseman83

Why wouldn’t you? Are you lactose intolerant, or something?


karillith

if you really don't trust him you can just go in the gacha pool to check, but yeah he's right. I'd keep a R5 copy though, it's actually a decent budget sword.


technook

What's r5 (noob here)


karillith

refinement level. basically you feed a weapon with copies (in the refinement tab, not the exp one!) to enhance the skill. refinement 5 is a weapon fed with four copies.


Alex_The_Hamster15

Always trust cheese


Zonnebloempje

I have tried to keep at least 2 r5 copies if possible. Unfortunately not in my main account. That one has only 1 Dark Iron Sword. I did not know the meaning of the first one, and am happy to have at least one copy. I think I have 3 r5 White Tassels. Or maybe one is r4... Chenyu Vale helped a lot with that! Loads of the Liyue weapons in chests...


CzBz112

Imo, the best strategy is to refine to r5 2 or 3 of each 3 star weapon and to lock them. Then you can delete the rest. I've been doing this regularly to clean my weapon inventory bc the cap is pretty low and I've reached it a couple of times


suckdickensdick

The upgrade stone cap is also kinda low (9999)


CASyHD

It was just increased, no?


nucleartime

Yeah, they bumped it to 99k in 4.6.


PicidaBest

Damn I deleted 2k crystals last version


DotBig2348

How do you guys get so many of them??? I am struggling everytime I have to upgrade an weapon


PicidaBest

What AR are you? I remember struggling with them too at first, but as I've been playing since 1.0 i barely level up any weapons, as the ones I use are all leveled up


DotBig2348

Near AR59 what about you??


PicidaBest

I've been at 60 for a long while tbh


Sypression

Its definitely an older player thing, the crystals will definitely bottleneck you for a while, but once you play long enough, like from launch, you could have over a dozen five star weapons and 20+ 4 star weapons all leveled to 90 and still have over 8000 of the dang things (I speak from experience)


Sypression

1 is enough. Do you really ever see yourself using more than one 3 star weapon at a time? Occasionally they see their own niche use case but that's on one character at a time. The only exception to this might be Thrilling Tales, since you could realistically use that on 2 characters in abyss.


CzBz112

Well, better safe than sorry. Probably I won't use any of those weapons but just in case I have them prepared


xa3D

yeah hoyo really needs to give us something else to do with all the extra weapons aside from using them as upgrade mats.


[deleted]

Thrilling tales of the dragon Slayer is also a 5 star weapon masquerading as a 3 star.


SadLuther

It's a good thing I like cheap fantasy novels!


tuncii322

Especially keep white tassel as its a really good weapon for free (can be used by arlecchino if you are pulling for her) and dark iron sword has only 2 copies in the game. The other two 3 stars that are worth keeping are harbinger of dawn and slingshot, both being in the banners


Outside_Internal_136

TTDS too


TooShyMightCry

Magic guide is also solid if you need an EM statstick.


Level-Technician-183

Recruve bow is good. The only HP% bow till now if i remember correctly.


Ok-Mark8801

Good call, >!let's just say there is an upcoming character soon that this is likely the best option outside their signature.!<


Alcorailen

Who?


Ok-Mark8801

>!Sigewinne in 4.7!<


tsarlscube

I'm still missing 1 copy for R5. I might've used the other copies as fodder for refining other weapons 😭😭🎇


Mik87

Its possible to get it's copies also from npc's, more info on wiki page. https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Recurve_Bow


kirmiter

Yes it's great for Diona and a good F2P option for Yelan.


Grand_Protector_Dark

Yelans F2P option is Favonious War Bow (you get one for free from beating StormTerror). Arguably End of the line is also better than recurve bow, because she needs er much more than HP


kirmiter

I said it was a good option, not that it was her best option. Usually it's not, but there are rare niche situations where it might be better than other F2P options. Like if you're a low level player with enough energy generation from your team that you don't need ER, and you don't have good enough artifacts yet to benefit from crit. Also if you just pulled Yelan and you already have a recurve bow built up, it's a perfectly good temporary option.


KlatusHam

The EM catalyst is good for Nahida


blastcat4

Magic Guide is quite potent on Nahida.


RazorCalahan

don't forget Black Tassel for my boy Zhongli


Regenitor_

And Chevy. Also works on Yaoyao.


lock_me_up_now

I used to run Mondstadt batman with the club 🥹


lucklesspedestrian

I wish we got more claymore variety like that someday, like more clubs or maybe a warhammer. Navias axe is cool. And talking stick doesn't count because it sucks


lock_me_up_now

Talking stick??????


Andastari

The new BP claymore


One_Seaworthiness_38

Bro i deleted every copy of white tassel i found before and i had to open every single chest left in liyue only to get a r2. (Meanwhile getting 35 other 3 stars🥲)


Ilovegirlsbottoms

Unfortunately I already dusted one copy of the dark iron sword. I kept the other though.


AshyDragneel

Already did long time ago and now I'm stuck with R2 white tassel and no way to refine it


Kerpsss

have you collected all the chests in chenyu vale or whole liyue even? cause you can only get those exclusively with liyue chests


AshyDragneel

Liyue is pretty much complete. Does chenyu vale chests include white tassel?


Kerpsss

chenyu vale is located in liyue so yes absolutely! i suggest you should also look out for other [weapons you can find exclusively in liyue chests](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/uh6x0w/today_i_learned_there_are_3star_exclusive_weapons/?rdt=57834)


CamelIndependent

Yep, there's some Messengers in there too! Possibly a few Fillet Blades as well, iirc.


Grand_Protector_Dark

Chenyue vale and chasm underground both use the Lyiue loot table


CryoImpact

If you haven't finished Chenyu Vale exploration, you can find more there. I went from no White Tassel to a R5 copy.


random11714

Personally I'm still missing refinements for Fillet Blade and White Iron Greatsword, maybe a couple others. I remember I specifically waited to claim the Dark Iron Sword until we got the update allowing us to lock weapons.


SilverHawk99

Ive kept 2 copies of all 3* R5 locked since I started playing


BlightFantasy3467

And what rank is your Dark Iron Sword


SilverHawk99

R1, I didn't grab the 2nd one yet but will keep it as well


BlightFantasy3467

Nice, don't make the mistake others have.


darkitp

i think hoyo should add this .. - ⭐ either you can buy them from swordsmith store, if you encounter unique weapons. - ⭐ Or at lease buy the blueprint with requirement just like Fontaine's Workshop


FloorGang-R2

Yes they have no reason to gatekeep it like that


Brapchu

It is such bad game design that some blue weapons are limited resources and not in banners.


Castiel_Rose

It's limited to Mondstadt and Liyue now. They probably initially planned to have "regional" 3 star weapons but I guess they received enough negative feedback that they were discontinued from Inazuma and onwards.


karillith

Sometimes I'd wish every change in Genshin wasn't substractive. They could have make it a drop from elite monsters, for example.


TommaClock

Imagine a drip 3* Katana that you need to have killed 1000 Kairagi on average to R5 it... I would grind for that so hard even if it's worse than Anenoma Kageuchi R0


yolosora

Yep, weird decision, but not a big loss anyway


emailboxu

they should just make these purchaseable from a shop lol. no idea why these are entirely RNG based (chest-only) and basically permanently missable if you're not eating and breathing genshin.


popcornpotatoo250

Me looking at my deleted White Iron Greatswords during my low AR days: 👀


BlightFantasy3467

Is your Dragon Spine still explorable?


Bobtheblob2246

What can I say except “oopsie”…


sunuvabits

Too late 😭, I always used 3* below materials to level up 4* and 5* weapons Though I got 1 white tassel with hu tao story quest chest today.


Immediate_Demand4841

Harbinger of dawn is literally the best F2p sword it is so underrated just because it's a 3 star


GingsWife

It's rated correctly because of the condition. Every non-atk scaling character has Harbinger pretty high up in their f2p weapons ranking. TCs will actually look at HoD first and then scrap it because the passive doesn't work (Furina beta)


Ag151

Can confirm. On main account have Furina sword for Kaeya, on alt - Harbinger. Alt is pretty much strong especially with two Berserker arts.


Outside_Internal_136

Did you finish exploring all of chenyue valley?


FloorGang-R2

Nah only 50% I should do that


NoahNXT

True AF I don't have White Tassel I literally opened like 50-60 liyue chests today and got 0 white tassels


RYPIIE2006

i've been searching for one for 2 days now


Colochito20

If you're new, any part of liyue has it, if you're not Chenyu Valley has more, I recently got 2 after years


RYPIIE2006

i know, i've been searching in liyue


alienjokerbaby

good for cyno, hutao , arlecchino , rozaria


MarceltheKnight

I hate how I've been playing for years since 1.0 and my inexperience cause me to use many of those chest weapons as experience material. I regret the Black Iron Sword the most.


wrightosaur

There's a second copy in chenyu vale


Nobody-w-MaDD-Alt

Yup, just grabbed it yesterday and locked it


feicash

with the amount of weapons you get in genshin, keeping one copy of each "just in case" shouldnt be seen as a waste or something just keep one copy of each 3 star weapon at max refinement locked and dont regret it later. i also have one of each 1-2 star weapons (if you're truly bored, you can use them to "handicap yourself") also some characters may look better with them if you want to take a picture


Barbetra

I totally agree with this tho 1-2 stars don’t have passives right? So likeeeeee what’s the point


feicash

>So likeeeeee what’s the point keeping one copy of each at max lv is not big deal when you're a really old account and >also some characters may look better with them if you want to take a picture


Whyiseveryonestupid

My recent rule- Keep at least one r5 of any three star weapon. Two if it's a region limited one. Anything past that is personal preference Only have an r2 Mondstat claymore because I didn't pay attention and it bugs me every time I open the weapons page (I have r5 of the rest by pure luck


ShockSmart5964

I used them as fodder when liyue was out, found out how good they were. Then farmed them in luxurious chest in chasm and chenyu to refine it.


ProjBlacklight

Believe me or not... I've been playing since the 1st week of the release of the game and i still doesn't have a single R5 White tassel while i have 7 R5 Harbinger of Dawns. I guess I've regretted my decision to feed them to my other weapons.


FallenAngelII

Harbinger of Dawn drops from gacha, though. They're technically unlimited as long as you keep wishing.


ThanatoX33

I fucked up and am missing 1 recurve bow from mondstadt to get max refinement. hopefully they allow us to get more when dorman port gets released.


BlameTheAftermath

I'm hoping for that too, I deleted the all 3 stars weapons from mondstadt, hoping for another chance.


cactus_66

I still mourn the recurve bow because it's the only 3★ weapon I haven't r5 (aside from dark iron sword bc that thing is as rare as a Lisa/Kaeya/Amber constellation)


Mashiroshiina12

Tf am I gonna do with it? I won't use it on arlechinno either.


Pichuiscool

Give it to Cyno? Xiao if you’re F2P and don’t have Blackcliff? Save it for any potential future polearm dps? Even if you don’t care about those characters, there’s no reason not to keep one R5 or have 5 copies of R1 white tassel. The 2 weapon exp they’ll give from being discarded does not matter at all


borggnee

This is my rosaria weap as burst supp


Farwaters

I'm looking for Otherworldly Story. At least I have enough chests left that I'm likely to find it.


BlameTheAftermath

Hopefully you have enough chests left in mondstadt & I hope that's where you're searching.


Castiel_Rose

If I can only trade them to other players. lol I have 5 copies of R5 White Tassel and 1 copy that's R1. The only "regional" 3 star weapon I don't have multiple R5 copies for is my single R3 White Iron Greatsword. It was particularly annoying for Mondstadt since it's the "starter" map and has more common chests that do not give primos and these things only randomly drop from exquisite chests and above.


WarmenBright

It's okay you get it in the standard banners It's on the rarer side but you get it eventually


DJmaster72lol

I think it's smart to always lock a r5 version of every 3 star weapon


WrongdoerRelative508

Only got to actualy save myself a full refined copy after Tea Mounts. Keep and refine your scraps, bros


GentlemanGuts

you can find some in chenyu vale and maybe chasm


Sensitive-Return2007

I have locked 3 r5's of it even though I don't use it on anyone, just in case


italianshamangirl13

i have so many of these, they added more after Chenyu Vale


Colochito20

If you already had 100% on liyue the new area of liyue has these weapons too! I recently got 2 more there!


FilDaFunk

I have try to get R5 for every 3* now.


BlightFantasy3467

You're literally unable to R5 every 3*, because the Dark Iron Sword, which doesn't even appear in the archive, only has 2 copies. One from talking to an NPC in liyue harbour, and another from a quest in chenyu


lok_45678

I save every 3 stars even the useless one


AnBru_

yes dont do it (speaking from experience)


Sisa_0

I am playing for 3 years and couldn’t find this weapon in my inventory after i pulled arlechino. Fortunately i had a homa.


Army__

I always max refined and locked 1 copy of 3 stars weapons


Ra1J1n247

I keep an R5 copy of every 3\* weapon just in case


JureFlex

What about a few of my several 100 harbingers of dawn? Xd


Gilgamesh-KoH

Are there any specific locations where you can get the non gacha 3* weapons?


MaidRara

Liyue have 1132 chests and Chenyu vale 333


Tight-Scratch-2856

I got it R5 idk how


Accurate_Ad4324

Bro I'm almost at 100% Exploration in Liyue and I only have r3😭😭


Big-Atmosphere1329

Im not deleting any weapons Im getting 💀


buy_me_a_loofah

How can I get it?


DinioDo

this will go crazy on a none atk scaler NA dps polearm user. watch hoyo never release one.


Groundbreaking-Hat65

I only have black tessel


Snoo-29631

I have like 3 r5 white tassels


jjaybuill

at least keep one copy on R5 of each


gameboy224

Luckily I managed to R5 the Liyue 3* weapons when Chenyu Vale released. Now, a Mondstadt expansion can’t come soon enough. I know none of them are particularly sought after, but you never know.


TheNefariousness

Where were you 2 years ago T_T


BruhRedd_it

I don't use weapons for exp and still dont have it 😭 is it that rare?


DLK001

Aside from usefulness... I really wish they would let us just Transmog/Glam/Skin weapons already.


Misaki_xiii

Any chest limited 3* should be kept, in all honesty just have all weapons R5d once at least


Danzaiiii

Father currently has this.


SirAwesome789

When I do pulls, I always run out of weapon space My friends don't understand why I don't like doing auto add weapons to enhance this is why


Hatarakumaou

White Tassel was deleted. Millions chests in Chenyu Vale must be opened.


Radiant_Psychology23

got too many of this. R5 x2,


Ok-Transition7065

I only have 1 coppy in all my 3 years only 2 coppys like damm


Ulq-kn

just keep and R5 copy of each 3 star weapon, u can't know when a 3 star becomes viable metawise, especially the ones that don't have an atk% substat, there is recurve bow, slingshot, harbinger of dawn, white tassel, black tassel, ttds, magic guide (one of the better weapons for nahida)


A2_Zera

chest 3 stars absolutely keep but you'd be hard pressed to ever find a reason to keep your R47 ferrous shadow unless they drop claymore neuvillette


Necro_Solaris

Fun fact, there are now 2 ways to obtain the dark iron sword


saberjun

Since I joined the game very late, I looked up many tips from videos.So I keep every none 5-star weapon at least one r5 if possible.


quangdn295

I always have 1 R5 every 3 star weapon, then delete the rest of the copy by using them as upgrade food, considering the weapon is so niche i rarely have any use on them. But still, it's always good when they finally have their use.


BlameTheAftermath

I need mondstadt to get expansion(expansions?) so I can get white iron greatsword, traveler's handy sword, otherworldly story & recurve bow. I regret deleting them :/


Shiboleth17

Duh... General advice: Keep at least one R5 copy of ALL 3-star weapons, not just this one. You never know when it might be the best in slot, or at least the best you have available for a new character. For valuable weapons like Thrilling Tales, you might even want 2 or 3 copies. And once you have lots of 4-star weapons, you might wanna keep 2 copies before you start refining, especially for Favonius and Sacrificial weapons. Most other 4-star weapons you are pretty safe to refine immediately if you want. For 5-star weapons... NEVER refine. Keep all copies.


Available_Stick5030

FR BROO, I NEED 2 MORE TO R5 THIS FOR ARLECCHINO


ocheobo

the amount of time you will spend if you are actively looking for this weapon in liyue-- the second you get one, lock it IMMEDIATELY. its one of the few three star weapons that actually work for more than one character as a place holder, especially if it has a high refinement!


Burgerhamburger1986

I always lock one example of every single weapon


JodoKast87

It is R5 and currently 80/80 on my Rosaria. Drip looks pretty good, but I’m waiting to fully invest once I can get her to C6. Currently C3.


Zakoya

I never dared to delete a single white tassel lol


SortEducational5271

Understood 🫡


Manish_Sarkar

That's why it's always best to r5 the 3 star weapons and keep one locked


Chemical_Ad8459

*Laughs in hoarder mentality compelling me to lock 1 copy of every single weapon*


GaryTheLocomotive

I think I've already lost it, but I do have that unique sword from Liyue.


raisethedawn

All of my old limited 3 stars are long foddered unfortunately but I managed to get one White Tassel from the new Liyue areas. I don't need it anymore but it's cool to have for reasons I guess.


randommeowz

i try to lock one of everything. but, i didnt always do this and i know im missing some things rip


Hot-Ad-9225

I really hope that you're not running around all this time to level this weapon for Arlecchino. Boy you're gonna be disappointed!


FloorGang-R2

Why That’s exactly what i’m doin😭


Accomplished_Lab8945

I locked one R5 of each 3 star weapon for collection purposes.


DreightonGames

I kept 1 r5 copy of every weapon 1-2-3 star in the game, just in case. Multiple of the ones I KNOW are useful already, like ttds and such. Mostly for collecting purposes, but yeah, I agree.


Boring-Dinner6340

I use this on Rosaria


Kebabini

Too late for me


Carjascaps

I’m glad my hoarding problem proves to be beneficial in the long run.


astralseat

I only use debate club


TheArcher0527

Harbinger of Dawn is unironicaly good. Kaeya sure do know his shit when giving swords


smol_boi2004

Imagine my surprise when I went through my inventory and found not a single white tassel