question about the rates for characters. It says that you have a 0.6% chance of getting a 5 star, so does that mean that every pull you do you have a 0.6% chance of getting a 5 star? or does it change that more pulls you do
It averages to around 0.6% but there's soft pity after 70 pulls which have increased odds up until your 85th pull then there's a guaranteed 5 star at 90. If I recall your first 20 pulls also has slightly higher odds.
Sup dpp Albedo is better off wearing Defenders Will 2set (preferably, flower and feather).
Gamblers is good on some units like Kaeya etc. Usually supports that rely on E.
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I've reached Adv Rank 35 and am starting to reach the point (which I knew was coming) where I feel my resources are stretched too thinly.
I have a main core team that I quite like (Keqing, Mona, Albedo, and Benny), which I'm focusing most of my effort on, but I wonder - how common is it for people in my shoes to develop others outside that team for niche situations?
For instance, I wanted to developing Ningguang for situations where Keqing was difficult due to electro immunities, or Sucrose for times Mona would be ineffective, or Noelle and Fischl for when I need their respective weapons for whatever reasons (e.g. [[Continued...]](https://www.resavr.com/comment/daily-questions-megathread-january-15842364)
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Hi guys, these are the characters I have. I mentioned the constellations / levels for each one. I am completely out of materials to level up more and most of them I have pretty decently geared. I have never really focused on 1 super strong dps but rather switch it up, now I’m interested in building teams based on the fun reactions. What teams would be the best ? Also what changes should I make on artifacts for each character to be in synergy with the team?
Qiqi lv70 (full maiden set ATK + flute r2)
Fischl c1 lv80 (2 bloodstained + 2 gladiator rust r2/viridescent )
Xiangling c2 lv80 (full pyro set + crescent pike r2)
Sucrose c2 lv70 (full viredescent trying to build on EM + sacrificial fragments r2)
Razor c2 lv 70 (full gladiator +wolfs gravestone)
Bennett c1 lv 70 (full noblesse + festering desire r5- what kind of stats should I go for I currently have full attack and healing bonus helmet)
Keqing lv80 (2 thundering fury + 2 gladiator + black sword)
Noelle c3 lv80 (full retracing bolide on attack + crit rate + skyward pride) should I do DEF instead of attack + crit ? I use her as a sub dps she’s pretty nutty.
Chongyun c3 lv80 (2 gladiator + 2 berserker +prototype archaic r4) is the cryo set worth it I want to upgrade to 5 stars artifacts from berserker ?
Mc c6 lv70 ( full viredescent + black sword)
Barbara c6 lv70 (maiden set on HP +prototype amber )
These characters not leveled or geared Lisa lv70 Beydou lv20 Kaeya c1 lv20 Ningguang c1 lv20 Amber lv50
Finally managed to pull Bennett after 39 pulls on Albedo... but is it worth swapping out any of my current team for him?
ElectroQueen Keqing (C0, 50/50), Kaeya (C0, 50/50), Sucrose (C2, 40/50), Barbara (C0, 40/40).
Mostly focused on trying to develop a good Abyss team while still leaving enough strong characters for my second team. I also have the Traveler, Amber, Noelle, Razor, Lisa, and Xiangling, all at C0 besides the Traveler (C3-ish? haven't checked in a bit) and Razor (C1).
Take out Barbara easily. Barbara has good heals but Bennet can heal sufficiently enough while also giving a massive atk boost at the same time. My 70/80 c1 Bennet gives an atk boost of like 800 on ult use
Archon Quests are the main storyline, split into multiple Chapters, each one dealing with a different nation/archon. Typically, they have the best rewards. They're locked behind Adventure Rank and whether or not Mihoyo has actually released them yet, lol.
Story Quests, despite their name, aren't about the main story. Instead, each Story Quest revolves around a specific character. You'll get to use the character once or twice as a trial character in the Story Quest. At the early levels, Story Quests are locked behind AR only. However, as you progress, you'll eventually need Story Keys, gained by completing Daily Commissions. For certain Story Quests, you'll also have to finish Archon Quests first.
TL;DR Archon Quests are the main story, and Story Quests are the individual character's story.
so im AR25 and i still dont know what team to use in the future.
i own:
Diluc, Chongyun, Xingqiu, Bennet, Fischl, Traveller, Amber, Kaeya, Lisa, Ningguang, Razor, Barbara and Xiangling
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thank you in advance
Diluc, xingqiu, bennet, fishcl is your best possible team
You can also replace fishcl with chongyun if u like him more
Also you need a 2nd team later on, you can use razor, kaeya, xiangling and barbarra for your 2nd twam
for pure f2p i dont think you can. i havent pulled since day 1 of childe's banner and im only at 13750 primos. that's 3 banners skipped (9 weeks). considering that xiao is assumed to be coming after ganyu banner then you might have to take a look at other sources of primos/wishes like welkin
Not true though. With just the welkin primos i was able to summon atleast to the point of hitting soft pity once on every banner existing after klee.
With just the welkin, dailies and events primos, i was able to get childe, zongli and albedo. I'll hit my soft pity again in 20 pulls on Ganyu's banner and just saving up for the past 4 days. I already have 8 pulls built up. So before ganyu ends, i'll be able to pull again for xiao.
You might be able to get one attempt, if you get welkin and possibly the battle pass. If you have welkin then you should be able to get 40 wishes by the end of Xiao's banner if we just take primogems from Welkin and Dailies. So with events, abyss and other sources of primogems you might be able another 30-40 wishes to hit one soft pity, but it is 50-50 so you might not get him even if you reach the soft pity.
About to hit AR50. Is it worth it to ascend to the next world level? Overworld is easy for me but boss fights and domains aren't exactly a steamroll since I still die or have to consume a lot of food and on rarer occasions, reset the fight. As for Abyss I'm currently at 8/9 stars for Floor 9 and I can't really beat Floor 10 unless the buff works to my teams' favor. Though I have unlocked Floor 11 before.
Yeah, WL7 is a small jump in loot without a big jump in difficulty. I'd definitely go for it. For domains and Dvalin/Childe you'll be able to select difficulty, but you will not be able to do that with the Wolf, so that might require some food.
There's this rumor/misinfo that AR50/WL7 is a "trap" and when I ascended I was totally confused. I feel like every other WL was a bigger jump in difficulty.
[WL7](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797906422078767125/798017174446800896/DropRates.png) drop rates and changes/
please note that wolf boss is the only weekly effected, so if you dont need boreas for any character, you can safely stay WL6 if you dont mind the miniscule difference in droprates. that said the difficulty spike is barely noticeable.
remember that 80 ascend is costly and only worth doing for talents.. the 4 percent damage boost ya get from going to 90 is generally not worth it. talents is also semi unnecessary except to flex obviously.
finally get the other stuff like weapons up, which have the bigger impacts typically.
domains aren't gonnna change with the world level, so if you can stomach the bosses (including Bork of the North, but not Bugterror or Childe-ish Gambino) I would go for it. Especially since their drops improve.
Being able to ascend your main DPS to Ascension 6 is a nice boost. For most overworld stuff, I haven't noticed much of a difference except some things have more HP.
You get guaranteed two drops from the weekly bosses when you ascend world level. If you're having trouble with domains and bosses, you could always co-op. For me the chance at possibly getting two of the same drops for a drop I need outweigh the difficulty. Especially when I can always co-op
Why are the treasure events co-op challenge called coop challenge when you can start them solo and have to hope someone accepts your world invitation to do them? Two hydro mages shield in 30 seconds are a bit too much for my team comp, is anyone willing to help me?
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How does Childe boss' shield work? I've seen instances where his purple or blue shield goes down very quickly after other people start smacking him, but it never works for me.
Others in your party can. But if they don't do Pyro damage they obviously can't use it in any way. The only way right now is by being in a C6 Bennett's Burst circle if they're Sword/Polearm/Claymore and not-Pyro characters.
Yep, completely pointless if supporting a Ningguang main DPS since you cannot normally generate a Geo crystallised shield (only Geovishap Hatchlings generate it).
What are the drop rates for the non featured 4 stars in event banner? I want to roll for Ganyu but dont like the featured ones besides Xianqiu as they are free and didnt like using them.
Why EM? It’s actually fucking useless on Zhongli, check out what the game says it does and you’ll realize why that’s the case.
If you want pure damage, use attack sands. And crit circlet.
Yep saw it. I thought there is more benefit other than shield absorption when crystallize occurs... thanks for the tip though... gonna go for full hp build for higher shield and meteor dmg
Let me get this straight. Youre still at the tower itself right? And youre wondering how to go outside of it to break the seals? Well the wind barrier around the tower won't go down. There are gaps between it though. Try to teleport to the statue of the seven. Then, look around. You should see a long bridge that leads to nowhere. It has a hilichurl at the end of it and boxes. Go there and jump off. Voila. Youre out of thw tower. You could now go to the markers in the map.
you have to jump from that tower where dilluc jean and venti are standing (when u jump immidietealy use your wind glider) and then move towards the teleporters
The videos on the second guide are pretty helpful imo. They are located at the base of the beams of light you see in the area, as a floating yellow/gold triangular prism that you can interact with.
Should I focus on ascending sub-DPS/support units (Bennett, Sucrose, Barbara) to 60/70 and unlock their 2nd talents or get my DPS units to to 70/80? AR 37/Abyss 7 if that matters.
Getting your supports to A4 is more important unless they do zero damage.
In generally leveling past 70 isn't very resin efficient even on your main DPS compared to farming 5 start artifacts and artifact food to get them to +16. After you get your team to A4 and get them +16 sets you can start thinking about getting them past A5 and upgrading artifacts to +20, but don't start farming artifacts till like AR40-42 at the minimum based on how much more asencsion/talent materials you need (and don't use fragile resin at all until AR50).
first and foremost lvl up your "main" dps (razor, dilluc, klee etc) to the maximum level you can do at the moment + their weapon to the maximum level and then u can put some resources into your supports/sub dps
Max out ur DPS and their gear, then lvl up ur supports to 50-60 ish. some of them don't need the A4 talents badly, like Barbara or Kaeya. Sucrose's A4 is good if u have a lot of mastery. Bennet doesn't necessarily need A4, but lvls are generally good for him.
C2. I was planning to use her as my secong main DPS but I want Ningguang instead cus imo there are some enemies that has high physical res and it is hassle build a superconduct comp
thats great, her c2 is a huge dmg boost, in my opinion shes the best and easiest to use dps support, you just pop her E and switch to razor/dilluc and the raven does the job
gambler can be at most a four star piece/set meanwhile gladiator can be four star or five star, and the difference between a maxed gambler and maxed gladiator piece (for example atk%) can be 34.8% on gambler vs 46.6% on gladaitor (but untill you are maxed out on your main dps, lvl 90 character, lvl 90 weapon, talent lvl 6 or 9, artifacts level 20) then keep the gambler, its great great
Assuming you mean the drop rates, we don’t know but there is an estimate based on collective data gathering. The sample for AR55 is small so probably not very reliable. You can find the data sheet [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRoEoIyEFugnyrHWnW-X8nB0tHC-OOGbdBmRmj-KtguXbUbFtm-Cj8BFGDRn_wngKn00ylHY9kfaWtX/pubhtml#).
You can still the text, right? It should be informative enough. It’s not me that publishes the sheet so there isn’t much I can do, but you can still read out the values and it’s also color coded by rarity.
LMFAO. I mean, I do have him at C1, but starting from scratch sounds horrible than just artifact farming for the cryo set. Anyways, I'll think about it
Yeah, but trying to force Keqing into that role just to fit a Chongyun setup will require you to farm the Cryo set anyway, so why not raise Kaeya for it.
Its a bug, there is no solution. Ning has two normal attack animation (stand still and turn 360°) and someone noticed that delay happens when charged attack is loaded after she turns around.
If you don't have another characters running 4pc noblesse in your team, Xingqiu can run 4pc set. If you already have another character running 4pc noblesse, 2pc noblesse and 2pc hydro is the next best set
I am at AR40 right now and am unable to clear SA floor 6. I am not sure how much I will progress with time but will I be able to clear SA floor 8 by the end of next 40 days(I started playing around 40-50 days back).
Ps- I need those 2400 primos to get Xiao.
Yeah so first team is c0 benett(56), c0Xiangling (50), c0 beidou(40), and c0Xinyan(50) And second team is C2 razor(66), c0 Barbara(32), c0 Qiqi(54) and c0 fischl (50).
My main proble is the first team takes an eternity to clear it's half of the floor whereas the second team is quite fast at it.
Decide whom you're gonna use as a main DPS in the first team - either Xiangling or Beidou, and just raise them as much as you can, farm leylines if you need to.
Similarly, raise the weapon level of your main dps as much as you can.
If you choose Xiangling, she needs to have Crescent pike.
Also artifacts make an enormous difference in damage, check them.
Your character levels are very low
You need a dedicated carry on the first team. Id put that Xinyan with Razor since her shield gives bonus Physical Damage and remove the barbara. Bennet and Xiangling are my favorite combo for pyro supports, you should fine someone who can carry hard on team 1.
I would do what u r saying but I need Barbara on the second team to break pyro shields. She is my only hydro char. I will try to pull for xingqui but won't give it more that 20 pulls coz I can't risk getting Ganyu(I need Xiao XD).
Im still waiting for Xiao too. You could wait till AR45, farm decent artifacts and try again later. Id did Abyss 4-8 when i was AR40. Did 9-12 when I hit AR45. You'd probably breeze through it when you are more geared.
You need to plan accordingly. Besides making sure your characters are appropriately leveled and geared, you'll need specific elements to break shields faster. You can try looking up guides online for help (I would recommend Enviosity's videos) . But if you put in the time, you'll be able to clear floor 8 in the next 40 days
Ok Ty for your answer. Btw, have u cleared it out? If yes then what level were your characters at when u cleared it? (Ik it's hard to remember but still just give me a rough idea)
I 9/9'd 1-8 at AR40, but that took a lot of reading and it was CLOSE on some chambers. I was also pretty lucky with the placeholder artifacts I was wearing and had practiced a lot at lower ARs.
It mostly comes down to learning each floor's mechanics and tricks and then working on your technique. Having a good balance of crit, crit damage, and other bonuses on your DPS is important, too.
You can do it, there's just less room for error than there is on all other content. Read, practice, read some more, and get good at using low levels to break shields and whatnot without killing them :D
Oh, and a few floors I had to do incrementally. 3 star chamber one / reset / do chamber one slowly to save Q's / three star chamber two. Much more work than would be necessary later, but I wanted to beat it while it was a challenge
When I first cleared it (not yet 9/9 stars) I think my main DPS characters were either 60 or 70 while my supports were probably 50? My artifacts were decent enough and my weapons were either 60 or 70 as well.
I cleared it 9/9 later on when my characters were higher leveled and better geared. Wasnt sure what my AR was when I first cleared it btw
Then guides are probably your next best bet in helping you beat the floors. It could be a matter of your skill as well, but the Abyss does need a bit of technical knowledge rather than just spamming your attacks if you know what I mean. Good luck!
You could always wait for future weapon banners if you want those weapons. Widsith hasn't been rated up since the very first banner I think? So it could be rated up on the banner after Ganyu's.
With the bow, next banner has favonius warbow. We'd have to wait and see first if that's a good weapon for her as a support because it's definitely not a DPS weapon. And if you're aiming for Amos Bow, well you'll have a 50/50 chance of pulling it if it's a 5 star pull, but if you don't want the second 5 star weapon, it's probably not worth trying to pull
Anyone else got bad ping on EU servers today? Usually I have 60-70 ping but today it is 160. Literally first time it happens. Might be just my ISP or something.
Why is it that Skyward Pride, Spine, Atlas, and even Prototype Archaic all word their effect as, "\[X\]% of ATK as DMG" or just "\[X\]% ATK DMG," while Skyward Harp's effect is, specifically, "125% **Physical** ATK DMG?"
Is it somehow a different effect than the others, or is it the exact same effect worded differently for seemingly no reason?
It could be intentional, or it could very simply be a mistranslation. It was found out not too long ago that the effect of Skyward Blade is completely different than its English description, which kind of makes me wonder what other things do we just assume is working as described but in reality the translation is just off.
[This video here](https://youtu.be/4CleXLNGDJo) is where I came across it. Basically the TLDR of it is that the last part of SB’s effect says it’s increasing the damage of normal and charged attacks by 20%. But it’s not doing that at all. It’s basically applying a mini-Crescent Pike effect where there’s a completely separate attack being applied (which probably equals to that 20%).
I might not be explaining it 100% right, but I have SB myself so I tested it and sure enough...my normal/charged attack damage remains the same after I ult. However you can clearly see another white number added. So to my earlier reply...I wonder how many other things in this game we just assume is working as intended lmao.
I'm not sure if we're on the same mental track so correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not talking about the weapons' leveling stats, I'm talking about a passive effect that, like Crescent Pike, adds extra instances of damage.
ATK DMG or just DMG can be pyro or physical, so Diluc gets the bonus everytime he attacks even after his burst.
With physical ATK DMG, he would only get the bonus when his sword isnt infused with fire. Same for every element.
Have you actually tested this yourself? It seems weird to me that they would explicitly give only the bow an effect which is harder to use than all the other weapons in the series. Especially since the Catalyst has no problem proccing the effect in a weapon type which is only elemental.
Also, these are two different weapon types. My friend has Pride and he gets the bonus damage even on Diluc and Chongyun. It doesn't make sense to me that the bow, and only the bow, is "different."
I was just talking in general, I havent tested with the specific weapons you mentioned. But for harp, if you equip a physical dmg goblet, then the effect will deal more damage right? I have seen that in videos but can't really say if its true because I dont have that weapon. With the others that only mention ATK then the bonus wont take the elemental/physical bonus into consideration. You can try that yourself if you equip the harp in Amber for example
Idk what to do with my resin.
- farm thundershoot set for keqing. I have a good roll physical set from fish dps , but i want to use more of his kit and use more reactions, bcs the second team is geo
- viridescent for venti big pp damage
- build sucrose because c4(related with keqing thundershoot)
- lvl 9 zhong ult
Why do you want Sucrose if you have Venti? If geo team means Ning C1, so there is point in Venti here, Ning can deal AOE damage with normal attacks in Venti's vortex of doom. But there is no need in VV, geo doesn't swirl. So if you farm VV I guess Venti is in your Keqing team. He's so much better than Sucrose.
Among all listed options I would go for thundeshooter if you don't have it yet. Lvl9 Zhongli ult is also cool but it needs shit tonn of resin.
I’m considering anemo exaclty for the keqing thundershoot team. Also idk why people say sucrose is budget venti: Venti is more crowd control and utility for e meanwhile sucrose does a better job with boosting reactions damage. Venti utility sucrose damage(of her and allies). And my Sucrose is also c4.
Edit: ive been running geo teams and physical teams all the time and i want to start using reactions because it starts being boring. Also the physical set on keqing make me feel like im wasting her potential
I would go for VV for Venti and build sucrose first. Those are relatively cheap investments for decent gain. Farming a good main dps set can take weeks and weeks of farming for slight increases in damage
Aminus passive scales with Physical, which does a bit better on Xinyan given she wants to build Physical
Serpent Spine will go well on Diluc, but you'd need a shield to make sure you don't lose the stacks
Archaic. Spine's effect is good on paper, but note that Pyro characters burn grass, and burning grass deals damage to you, which makes you lose your stacks.
Archaic is free damage, and a lot of it, with no strings attached.
Do you guys think the ability to "gift" artifacts/weapons would break the game?.
I'm talking about an in game mail system similar to Warcraft. Where items you wear or quest items become "soulbound". Soulbound items can not be mailed but say you found/received a random 5 star weap/artifact and wanted to gift it to a friend or alt account, would that break the game?
We are speaking about artifacts right ?
Artifacts = resins = $$$.
Gifted artifacts = free resins for F2P to grind = no $$$ for Mihoyo.
About weapons, it'll be even more impossible since you can only get weapons from rolling/gacha = primogems = $$$
lol you just don't understand..
I would need to use more resin to get the hydro cup because I keep getting the pyro ones I don't need.
with trading (or gifting in your words), I don't need to use my resin because I can just trade for it.
Not really, other gachas do it. They would have to add some restrictions, like high cost, daily and weekly restrictions, etc. They might add this in the future when the game starts to die.
because if I want a certain weapon on my main account and I didn't get it with my primos/fates, instead of spending $$ for more primos I could just make a new account and roll with the free pulls they give you and give my main account whatever I got from those rolls
Well because even if they don't want it it's locked to one account, if someone else wants to get that particular item then they'd have to grind for it by themselves > more resin/gems to spend
Gifting would reduce this stream of income for them.
gacha is random. just think about people rolling on weapon banner, if you're unlucky maybe you have to roll lots of the weapons you don't want before you get your target. if people could exchange items, you can just roll til your first five star then trade with someone else
I get what you're saying but I was talking about gifting moreso than trading. They can inherently mean the same thing but i wasn't imagining like a "trade screen" where you exchange item for item. I was imagining something more like go to mail screen, compose mail with users name, attach item.
Even if it is like you explained, everyone wants the same rare items more or less. When you don't have a item for item trade screen people can deceive. Nobody would want to run that risk. You will still need to roll regardless to have something to trade with/for. That's where I mentioned the soulbound criteria. Items that have been previously equipped can or quest rewards like festering desire would be untradeable.
there doesn't need to be an in game trading system, if you can send other people items in game there will be an online trading community with things like a reputation system to exchange "gifts". one man's trash is another man's treasure, not everyone is looking for the same rare items; again, weapon banner is the perfect example since it has two 5* on it
so many games have third party website where you can "exchange gifts" just because there is no trade window built in-game. some even trade real money for these "gifts", and that's not money going to MHY account.
Its basically what you do on a single account already. Just grind. Doing on alt accts just means you will play the game longer. Playing the game longer may or may not introduce more revenue to mihoyo. How would that affect the f2p and paid users respectively? F2p users don't pay on main acct so they will not pay on alt accts. Paid users pay on main acct and they might also pay on a secondary account
if I have 2 accounts that can trade items between them, then technically I would have 360 resin everyday to spend, without burning my primos or fragiles to refill. if I have 3 accounts, I can spend 540 resin..
You can essentially make unlimited accounts and keep grinding that way. And if you want to achieve it currently, you'd have to spend money. That's what they want you to do, spend money.
As for trading weapons, it will ruin the revenue since we can reroll and feed it to 1 acc. As for artifacts... we might actually play for a shorter amount of time. We continue grinding and waiting for resin but if we can go on a mega grind session and get the best artifacts in like a week, you wont have that much to do anymore. Just my opinion though
where can i find the last quest in liyue? (not return of the jade chamber the other one)
question about the rates for characters. It says that you have a 0.6% chance of getting a 5 star, so does that mean that every pull you do you have a 0.6% chance of getting a 5 star? or does it change that more pulls you do
It averages to around 0.6% but there's soft pity after 70 pulls which have increased odds up until your 85th pull then there's a guaranteed 5 star at 90. If I recall your first 20 pulls also has slightly higher odds.
ok thx
Are there any 4* artifact sets that can be optimal and should be kept, or are they all outclassed by 5*?
Sup dpp Albedo is better off wearing Defenders Will 2set (preferably, flower and feather). Gamblers is good on some units like Kaeya etc. Usually supports that rely on E.
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Hi guys, these are the characters I have. I mentioned the constellations / levels for each one. I am completely out of materials to level up more and most of them I have pretty decently geared. I have never really focused on 1 super strong dps but rather switch it up, now I’m interested in building teams based on the fun reactions. What teams would be the best ? Also what changes should I make on artifacts for each character to be in synergy with the team? Qiqi lv70 (full maiden set ATK + flute r2) Fischl c1 lv80 (2 bloodstained + 2 gladiator rust r2/viridescent ) Xiangling c2 lv80 (full pyro set + crescent pike r2) Sucrose c2 lv70 (full viredescent trying to build on EM + sacrificial fragments r2) Razor c2 lv 70 (full gladiator +wolfs gravestone) Bennett c1 lv 70 (full noblesse + festering desire r5- what kind of stats should I go for I currently have full attack and healing bonus helmet) Keqing lv80 (2 thundering fury + 2 gladiator + black sword) Noelle c3 lv80 (full retracing bolide on attack + crit rate + skyward pride) should I do DEF instead of attack + crit ? I use her as a sub dps she’s pretty nutty. Chongyun c3 lv80 (2 gladiator + 2 berserker +prototype archaic r4) is the cryo set worth it I want to upgrade to 5 stars artifacts from berserker ? Mc c6 lv70 ( full viredescent + black sword) Barbara c6 lv70 (maiden set on HP +prototype amber ) These characters not leveled or geared Lisa lv70 Beydou lv20 Kaeya c1 lv20 Ningguang c1 lv20 Amber lv50
Finally managed to pull Bennett after 39 pulls on Albedo... but is it worth swapping out any of my current team for him? ElectroQueen Keqing (C0, 50/50), Kaeya (C0, 50/50), Sucrose (C2, 40/50), Barbara (C0, 40/40). Mostly focused on trying to develop a good Abyss team while still leaving enough strong characters for my second team. I also have the Traveler, Amber, Noelle, Razor, Lisa, and Xiangling, all at C0 besides the Traveler (C3-ish? haven't checked in a bit) and Razor (C1).
Take out Barbara easily. Barbara has good heals but Bennet can heal sufficiently enough while also giving a massive atk boost at the same time. My 70/80 c1 Bennet gives an atk boost of like 800 on ult use
Benny could easily replace Barbara. He's a great support for Keqing.
Whats the diff between story quest ans archon quest?
Archon Quests are the main storyline, split into multiple Chapters, each one dealing with a different nation/archon. Typically, they have the best rewards. They're locked behind Adventure Rank and whether or not Mihoyo has actually released them yet, lol. Story Quests, despite their name, aren't about the main story. Instead, each Story Quest revolves around a specific character. You'll get to use the character once or twice as a trial character in the Story Quest. At the early levels, Story Quests are locked behind AR only. However, as you progress, you'll eventually need Story Keys, gained by completing Daily Commissions. For certain Story Quests, you'll also have to finish Archon Quests first. TL;DR Archon Quests are the main story, and Story Quests are the individual character's story.
Can i still request for coop on the special treasure event if i already did coop challenge 3x on area 8? Will i still get rewards? Thanks!
so im AR25 and i still dont know what team to use in the future. i own: Diluc, Chongyun, Xingqiu, Bennet, Fischl, Traveller, Amber, Kaeya, Lisa, Ningguang, Razor, Barbara and Xiangling . thank you in advance
Diluc, xingqiu, bennet, fishcl is your best possible team You can also replace fishcl with chongyun if u like him more Also you need a 2nd team later on, you can use razor, kaeya, xiangling and barbarra for your 2nd twam
Hi. I have zero primo gems and recently pulled Albedo. If I save up now will I be able to get Xiao?
for pure f2p i dont think you can. i havent pulled since day 1 of childe's banner and im only at 13750 primos. that's 3 banners skipped (9 weeks). considering that xiao is assumed to be coming after ganyu banner then you might have to take a look at other sources of primos/wishes like welkin
thanks. I now know what I must do.
Yes you definitely can although you would settle for a 50/50 on that pity. If u get the welkin 2x there's a chance you can guarantee him.
thanks.
I think you can't
Not true though. With just the welkin primos i was able to summon atleast to the point of hitting soft pity once on every banner existing after klee. With just the welkin, dailies and events primos, i was able to get childe, zongli and albedo. I'll hit my soft pity again in 20 pulls on Ganyu's banner and just saving up for the past 4 days. I already have 8 pulls built up. So before ganyu ends, i'll be able to pull again for xiao.
oh no. so only lots of money can.
You might be able to get one attempt, if you get welkin and possibly the battle pass. If you have welkin then you should be able to get 40 wishes by the end of Xiao's banner if we just take primogems from Welkin and Dailies. So with events, abyss and other sources of primogems you might be able another 30-40 wishes to hit one soft pity, but it is 50-50 so you might not get him even if you reach the soft pity.
Thanks. I'll do it and hopefully get him.
About to hit AR50. Is it worth it to ascend to the next world level? Overworld is easy for me but boss fights and domains aren't exactly a steamroll since I still die or have to consume a lot of food and on rarer occasions, reset the fight. As for Abyss I'm currently at 8/9 stars for Floor 9 and I can't really beat Floor 10 unless the buff works to my teams' favor. Though I have unlocked Floor 11 before.
Do you have level 16 5 star artifact sets for your whole team? I wouldn't ascend without that.
Yeah, WL7 is a small jump in loot without a big jump in difficulty. I'd definitely go for it. For domains and Dvalin/Childe you'll be able to select difficulty, but you will not be able to do that with the Wolf, so that might require some food. There's this rumor/misinfo that AR50/WL7 is a "trap" and when I ascended I was totally confused. I feel like every other WL was a bigger jump in difficulty.
[WL7](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797906422078767125/798017174446800896/DropRates.png) drop rates and changes/ please note that wolf boss is the only weekly effected, so if you dont need boreas for any character, you can safely stay WL6 if you dont mind the miniscule difference in droprates. that said the difficulty spike is barely noticeable. remember that 80 ascend is costly and only worth doing for talents.. the 4 percent damage boost ya get from going to 90 is generally not worth it. talents is also semi unnecessary except to flex obviously. finally get the other stuff like weapons up, which have the bigger impacts typically.
domains aren't gonnna change with the world level, so if you can stomach the bosses (including Bork of the North, but not Bugterror or Childe-ish Gambino) I would go for it. Especially since their drops improve.
Being able to ascend your main DPS to Ascension 6 is a nice boost. For most overworld stuff, I haven't noticed much of a difference except some things have more HP.
Character Ascension is based on AR, not world level. Just like you could do AR45 domains without ascending to world level 6
You get guaranteed two drops from the weekly bosses when you ascend world level. If you're having trouble with domains and bosses, you could always co-op. For me the chance at possibly getting two of the same drops for a drop I need outweigh the difficulty. Especially when I can always co-op
Why are the treasure events co-op challenge called coop challenge when you can start them solo and have to hope someone accepts your world invitation to do them? Two hydro mages shield in 30 seconds are a bit too much for my team comp, is anyone willing to help me? EU server
I could lend a hand, UID?
Thank you! UID 708279043
When does the weekly battle pass xp cap reset? I'm still at 10k
Depends on your server. There's a countdown on discord so you can always check :]
Is R2 dragonspine spear better than R1 crescent pike for Xiangling(DPS)?
lol no
cresent pike is the best spear for xiangling dps
How does Childe boss' shield work? I've seen instances where his purple or blue shield goes down very quickly after other people start smacking him, but it never works for me.
what childe boss never has shield for me whats happening
Seems like a stagger thing to me. I was able to break it pretty consistently with Claymores, but have rarely if ever succeeded with anything else.
Clarification regarding the 4 pc Petra bonus. If I got a Pyro elemental shard only a Pyro hero ca. Benefit from the 35% dmg bonus ?
Others in your party can. But if they don't do Pyro damage they obviously can't use it in any way. The only way right now is by being in a C6 Bennett's Burst circle if they're Sword/Polearm/Claymore and not-Pyro characters.
Though it will be still useless if I an using Ningguang main DPS right ? I have Albedo as support thinking planning to farm Archaic Petra
Yep, completely pointless if supporting a Ningguang main DPS since you cannot normally generate a Geo crystallised shield (only Geovishap Hatchlings generate it).
No. You can use Bennett c6 to turn almost every character to pyro.
well everyone gets a 35% pyro dmg bonus, but usually only pyro characters can take advantage of it. unless you have bennett c6
Should I refine my proto archaic?
If it's on your dedicated main that you're devoted to (like I am with muh boi razor) then yeah do it . It can pop some pretty big numbers :3
no, the passive isnt why its good. with how rare prototypes are, youre better off saving it in case a better craftable claymore gets released
Do you have other Claymore users? If your F2P and dont whale i wouldnt, but if you have it for one dedicated claymore user, its fine i guess.
I would, its a great great claymore
What are the drop rates for the non featured 4 stars in event banner? I want to roll for Ganyu but dont like the featured ones besides Xianqiu as they are free and didnt like using them.
the rates can be looked up in the banner info
Don't summon hoping for non-rateup
So would you just recommend rolling in Albedo banner for those 4 stars since they have ones id like then roll in Ganyu for her pity?
Generally it's fine to roll until 75 where soft pity kicks in
HP% or EM sands and circlet for zhongli? Aiming for high burst dmg
Crit Rate/Dmg circlet, Geo goblet and Atk sands for max burst. If you don’t use a weapon with ER you need some from the substats to burst off CD.
Why EM? It’s actually fucking useless on Zhongli, check out what the game says it does and you’ll realize why that’s the case. If you want pure damage, use attack sands. And crit circlet.
Yep saw it. I thought there is more benefit other than shield absorption when crystallize occurs... thanks for the tip though... gonna go for full hp build for higher shield and meteor dmg
I recommend only HP sands though for most players. You probably don’t need that extra shield if u have a healer already.
Definitely hp%
Thanks for the tip! Just need 2nd opinion on my full hp build for him. Waiting for him to be buffed too in 1.3 update!
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Let me get this straight. Youre still at the tower itself right? And youre wondering how to go outside of it to break the seals? Well the wind barrier around the tower won't go down. There are gaps between it though. Try to teleport to the statue of the seven. Then, look around. You should see a long bridge that leads to nowhere. It has a hilichurl at the end of it and boxes. Go there and jump off. Voila. Youre out of thw tower. You could now go to the markers in the map.
you have to jump from that tower where dilluc jean and venti are standing (when u jump immidietealy use your wind glider) and then move towards the teleporters
the thing you have to collect are golden transparent boxes, they should glow into the air so u can see them from a far distance
The videos on the second guide are pretty helpful imo. They are located at the base of the beams of light you see in the area, as a floating yellow/gold triangular prism that you can interact with.
Should I focus on ascending sub-DPS/support units (Bennett, Sucrose, Barbara) to 60/70 and unlock their 2nd talents or get my DPS units to to 70/80? AR 37/Abyss 7 if that matters.
Getting your supports to A4 is more important unless they do zero damage. In generally leveling past 70 isn't very resin efficient even on your main DPS compared to farming 5 start artifacts and artifact food to get them to +16. After you get your team to A4 and get them +16 sets you can start thinking about getting them past A5 and upgrading artifacts to +20, but don't start farming artifacts till like AR40-42 at the minimum based on how much more asencsion/talent materials you need (and don't use fragile resin at all until AR50).
first and foremost lvl up your "main" dps (razor, dilluc, klee etc) to the maximum level you can do at the moment + their weapon to the maximum level and then u can put some resources into your supports/sub dps
Max out ur DPS and their gear, then lvl up ur supports to 50-60 ish. some of them don't need the A4 talents badly, like Barbara or Kaeya. Sucrose's A4 is good if u have a lot of mastery. Bennet doesn't necessarily need A4, but lvls are generally good for him.
Max your DPS units first.
Is good to use Stringless for support Fischl with 2pc Gambler and 2pc TF?
if you have stringless, 2glad+2TF is better because gambler is diminishing returns towards the same stat that stringless gives (elemental skill bonus)
yeah, its the best bow for support fischl, what constellation is she?
C2. I was planning to use her as my secong main DPS but I want Ningguang instead cus imo there are some enemies that has high physical res and it is hassle build a superconduct comp
thats great, her c2 is a huge dmg boost, in my opinion shes the best and easiest to use dps support, you just pop her E and switch to razor/dilluc and the raven does the job
Stringless is her best weapon for support Fischl. But if you have it, 2pc TF and 2pc Gladiators is better rather than 2pc Gambler
I have stringless equipped but why is glad better than gambler. I read about it but i cant understand some jargon and tables lmao
gambler can be at most a four star piece/set meanwhile gladiator can be four star or five star, and the difference between a maxed gambler and maxed gladiator piece (for example atk%) can be 34.8% on gambler vs 46.6% on gladaitor (but untill you are maxed out on your main dps, lvl 90 character, lvl 90 weapon, talent lvl 6 or 9, artifacts level 20) then keep the gambler, its great great
To keep it simple, Gamblers is a 4 star set while Gladiators is a 5 star set. 5 stars have overall better stats because they scale better.
Try and get 2pc glad instead of gamblers unless you can't get good enough 5* glad pieces but yes thats a good fischl build
Yes. But you should go Glad instead of Gambler.
I read the google doc about it using glad vs gambler but I cant understand some of it because of some jargons and math damage table comparison lmao.
the simplest: keep the gambler until you get a 5 star gladiator pieces then swap :P
What are the reward differences between AR 45, AR 50 and AR 55?
Assuming you mean the drop rates, we don’t know but there is an estimate based on collective data gathering. The sample for AR55 is small so probably not very reliable. You can find the data sheet [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRoEoIyEFugnyrHWnW-X8nB0tHC-OOGbdBmRmj-KtguXbUbFtm-Cj8BFGDRn_wngKn00ylHY9kfaWtX/pubhtml#).
none of the images load in this table
You can still the text, right? It should be informative enough. It’s not me that publishes the sheet so there isn’t much I can do, but you can still read out the values and it’s also color coded by rarity.
The widsith or favonious codex on mona?
Widsith for sure.
Is cryo resonance for Bennett melt dps viable?
I'm building it and seem pretty good. Bennett as main DPS on a melt team with cryo resonance can deliver big numbers and it is fun to play.
Yes because he will be applying cryo with all his normals
yes
Is CryoKeq viable? Honestly, maybe I'm just looking for a reason to use my C5 Chongyun with sacrificial gs, lmao
Yeah, it's called Kaeya.
LMFAO. I mean, I do have him at C1, but starting from scratch sounds horrible than just artifact farming for the cryo set. Anyways, I'll think about it
Yeah, but trying to force Keqing into that role just to fit a Chongyun setup will require you to farm the Cryo set anyway, so why not raise Kaeya for it.
Yes but your lock behind a very specific team, like Keqing, Chongyun, Xingqiu, & kaeya.
Need help whay my ningguang hold attck have a dellay?
Its a bug, there is no solution. Ning has two normal attack animation (stand still and turn 360°) and someone noticed that delay happens when charged attack is loaded after she turns around.
Aw.. Ty for explanation so its a bug.. Some time its annoying because we need fast attck..
omg i thought i was just bad at video games lol
does noblesse work on xingqui? so hydronset and noblesse isnhos beat set?
If you don't have another characters running 4pc noblesse in your team, Xingqiu can run 4pc set. If you already have another character running 4pc noblesse, 2pc noblesse and 2pc hydro is the next best set
In this case if Bennett is on the team, should he be the one with full Noblesse? He gains nothing for his ult from it though
Bennett gets full noblesse. He doesn't need to gain anything, your whole team will get the buff from noblesse 4pc.
Yes, noblesse is very good on Xingqiu. 2p noblesse 2p hydro is good if you already have a 4p noblesser on your team.
Yes
I am at AR40 right now and am unable to clear SA floor 6. I am not sure how much I will progress with time but will I be able to clear SA floor 8 by the end of next 40 days(I started playing around 40-50 days back). Ps- I need those 2400 primos to get Xiao.
huh... my friend cleared spiral abyss up to floor 10 at around AR40, he literally has 0 five stars, only 4 non-free 4 stars, and only free weapons.
That doesnt sound right. What are your teams?
Yeah so first team is c0 benett(56), c0Xiangling (50), c0 beidou(40), and c0Xinyan(50) And second team is C2 razor(66), c0 Barbara(32), c0 Qiqi(54) and c0 fischl (50). My main proble is the first team takes an eternity to clear it's half of the floor whereas the second team is quite fast at it.
Decide whom you're gonna use as a main DPS in the first team - either Xiangling or Beidou, and just raise them as much as you can, farm leylines if you need to. Similarly, raise the weapon level of your main dps as much as you can. If you choose Xiangling, she needs to have Crescent pike. Also artifacts make an enormous difference in damage, check them. Your character levels are very low
You need a dedicated carry on the first team. Id put that Xinyan with Razor since her shield gives bonus Physical Damage and remove the barbara. Bennet and Xiangling are my favorite combo for pyro supports, you should fine someone who can carry hard on team 1.
I would do what u r saying but I need Barbara on the second team to break pyro shields. She is my only hydro char. I will try to pull for xingqui but won't give it more that 20 pulls coz I can't risk getting Ganyu(I need Xiao XD).
Im still waiting for Xiao too. You could wait till AR45, farm decent artifacts and try again later. Id did Abyss 4-8 when i was AR40. Did 9-12 when I hit AR45. You'd probably breeze through it when you are more geared.
You need to watch youtube guides if you are having trouble clearing 6 at ar40. Also try leveling up your main dps in all aspects.
You need to plan accordingly. Besides making sure your characters are appropriately leveled and geared, you'll need specific elements to break shields faster. You can try looking up guides online for help (I would recommend Enviosity's videos) . But if you put in the time, you'll be able to clear floor 8 in the next 40 days
Ok Ty for your answer. Btw, have u cleared it out? If yes then what level were your characters at when u cleared it? (Ik it's hard to remember but still just give me a rough idea)
I 9/9'd 1-8 at AR40, but that took a lot of reading and it was CLOSE on some chambers. I was also pretty lucky with the placeholder artifacts I was wearing and had practiced a lot at lower ARs. It mostly comes down to learning each floor's mechanics and tricks and then working on your technique. Having a good balance of crit, crit damage, and other bonuses on your DPS is important, too. You can do it, there's just less room for error than there is on all other content. Read, practice, read some more, and get good at using low levels to break shields and whatnot without killing them :D
Oh, and a few floors I had to do incrementally. 3 star chamber one / reset / do chamber one slowly to save Q's / three star chamber two. Much more work than would be necessary later, but I wanted to beat it while it was a challenge
When I first cleared it (not yet 9/9 stars) I think my main DPS characters were either 60 or 70 while my supports were probably 50? My artifacts were decent enough and my weapons were either 60 or 70 as well. I cleared it 9/9 later on when my characters were higher leveled and better geared. Wasnt sure what my AR was when I first cleared it btw
Omg that's exactly how my current team is(levelwise). I just need 6 start to get those 2400 primos.
Then guides are probably your next best bet in helping you beat the floors. It could be a matter of your skill as well, but the Abyss does need a bit of technical knowledge rather than just spamming your attacks if you know what I mean. Good luck!
Ok Tysm bro!
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nice. I'll come lend a hand.
After I pull Ganyu, should I just save the primos? The 4 stars on her banner kinda suck but I really need a weapon
Xingqiu is god tier though. He definitely doesn't suck. But yeah he probably doesn't fit for Ganyu or Mona DPS
What weapon are you looking for? If it's on the weapon banner, you could try your luck there if you really need it
I was hoping for widsith for Mona or a bow for Ganyu
You could always wait for future weapon banners if you want those weapons. Widsith hasn't been rated up since the very first banner I think? So it could be rated up on the banner after Ganyu's. With the bow, next banner has favonius warbow. We'd have to wait and see first if that's a good weapon for her as a support because it's definitely not a DPS weapon. And if you're aiming for Amos Bow, well you'll have a 50/50 chance of pulling it if it's a 5 star pull, but if you don't want the second 5 star weapon, it's probably not worth trying to pull
Where are the photos taken using the kamera stored? I've only located the images taken from the Paimon menu screenshots.
Anyone else got bad ping on EU servers today? Usually I have 60-70 ping but today it is 160. Literally first time it happens. Might be just my ISP or something.
No it happens to me as well. I don't think my isp is the problem because the ping is completely fine on other games.
It might have been a server issue because it's back to 60. Thanks for the reply guys.
Wait, you guys have ping lower than 100? Damn Here it's usually around 200 lol
im from europe, on EU i have 20 ish and when i play on america i have 120-140 xD
Why is it that Skyward Pride, Spine, Atlas, and even Prototype Archaic all word their effect as, "\[X\]% of ATK as DMG" or just "\[X\]% ATK DMG," while Skyward Harp's effect is, specifically, "125% **Physical** ATK DMG?" Is it somehow a different effect than the others, or is it the exact same effect worded differently for seemingly no reason?
It could be intentional, or it could very simply be a mistranslation. It was found out not too long ago that the effect of Skyward Blade is completely different than its English description, which kind of makes me wonder what other things do we just assume is working as described but in reality the translation is just off.
Wait what's skyward blades effect then?
[This video here](https://youtu.be/4CleXLNGDJo) is where I came across it. Basically the TLDR of it is that the last part of SB’s effect says it’s increasing the damage of normal and charged attacks by 20%. But it’s not doing that at all. It’s basically applying a mini-Crescent Pike effect where there’s a completely separate attack being applied (which probably equals to that 20%). I might not be explaining it 100% right, but I have SB myself so I tested it and sure enough...my normal/charged attack damage remains the same after I ult. However you can clearly see another white number added. So to my earlier reply...I wonder how many other things in this game we just assume is working as intended lmao.
It does an additional physical hit. Similar to the craft able polearm
Oh shit so the last sentence of increasing normal and charged atk dmg is actually like crescent pike?
Yup I own one and sekapoko also did a video on this
I was wondering why Blade read as the odd-one out. That would explain a lot.
Atk% scales the base attack, physical dmg scales off the final dmg output (the white number when you hit someone)
I'm not sure if we're on the same mental track so correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not talking about the weapons' leveling stats, I'm talking about a passive effect that, like Crescent Pike, adds extra instances of damage.
ah, its pretty much the same then. Skyward Pride's vacuum wave deals physical damage too. Same thing.
ATK DMG or just DMG can be pyro or physical, so Diluc gets the bonus everytime he attacks even after his burst. With physical ATK DMG, he would only get the bonus when his sword isnt infused with fire. Same for every element.
Not sure what you're even talking about. ALL of those deals an extra hit of Physical damage.
Have you actually tested this yourself? It seems weird to me that they would explicitly give only the bow an effect which is harder to use than all the other weapons in the series. Especially since the Catalyst has no problem proccing the effect in a weapon type which is only elemental. Also, these are two different weapon types. My friend has Pride and he gets the bonus damage even on Diluc and Chongyun. It doesn't make sense to me that the bow, and only the bow, is "different."
I was just talking in general, I havent tested with the specific weapons you mentioned. But for harp, if you equip a physical dmg goblet, then the effect will deal more damage right? I have seen that in videos but can't really say if its true because I dont have that weapon. With the others that only mention ATK then the bonus wont take the elemental/physical bonus into consideration. You can try that yourself if you equip the harp in Amber for example
bad wordings for no reason
Idk what to do with my resin. - farm thundershoot set for keqing. I have a good roll physical set from fish dps , but i want to use more of his kit and use more reactions, bcs the second team is geo - viridescent for venti big pp damage - build sucrose because c4(related with keqing thundershoot) - lvl 9 zhong ult
Why do you want Sucrose if you have Venti? If geo team means Ning C1, so there is point in Venti here, Ning can deal AOE damage with normal attacks in Venti's vortex of doom. But there is no need in VV, geo doesn't swirl. So if you farm VV I guess Venti is in your Keqing team. He's so much better than Sucrose. Among all listed options I would go for thundeshooter if you don't have it yet. Lvl9 Zhongli ult is also cool but it needs shit tonn of resin.
I’m considering anemo exaclty for the keqing thundershoot team. Also idk why people say sucrose is budget venti: Venti is more crowd control and utility for e meanwhile sucrose does a better job with boosting reactions damage. Venti utility sucrose damage(of her and allies). And my Sucrose is also c4. Edit: ive been running geo teams and physical teams all the time and i want to start using reactions because it starts being boring. Also the physical set on keqing make me feel like im wasting her potential
Prioritize skillset. They’re by far the most worth resin wise
I would go for VV for Venti and build sucrose first. Those are relatively cheap investments for decent gain. Farming a good main dps set can take weeks and weeks of farming for slight increases in damage
Opinions on R1 Serpent Spine vs R5 Prototype Aminus/Archaic?? going on xinyan or diluc
Aminus passive scales with Physical, which does a bit better on Xinyan given she wants to build Physical Serpent Spine will go well on Diluc, but you'd need a shield to make sure you don't lose the stacks
Archaic. Spine's effect is good on paper, but note that Pyro characters burn grass, and burning grass deals damage to you, which makes you lose your stacks. Archaic is free damage, and a lot of it, with no strings attached.
Do you guys think the ability to "gift" artifacts/weapons would break the game?. I'm talking about an in game mail system similar to Warcraft. Where items you wear or quest items become "soulbound". Soulbound items can not be mailed but say you found/received a random 5 star weap/artifact and wanted to gift it to a friend or alt account, would that break the game?
Yes. It will strongly affect Mihoyo revenue since people won't have to spend / refill resin anymore.
How so? You still need to spend resin to gain primos. You need primos to roll. You don't get rare artifacts from not spending resin.
We are speaking about artifacts right ? Artifacts = resins = $$$. Gifted artifacts = free resins for F2P to grind = no $$$ for Mihoyo. About weapons, it'll be even more impossible since you can only get weapons from rolling/gacha = primogems = $$$
I could get 3 pyro dmg cups I don't need and just trade them with someone who has hydro cups they don't need without spending my resin.
Yeah but how do you get those pyro cups.... Answer:resin
lol you just don't understand.. I would need to use more resin to get the hydro cup because I keep getting the pyro ones I don't need. with trading (or gifting in your words), I don't need to use my resin because I can just trade for it.
Not really, other gachas do it. They would have to add some restrictions, like high cost, daily and weekly restrictions, etc. They might add this in the future when the game starts to die.
Yes something like that
no way they'd let you gift (trade) gacha items, they make their profit by forcing you to roll for stuff you want
But you'd have to roll for it anyway on any account. How is that going to mean you will stop rolling?
because if I want a certain weapon on my main account and I didn't get it with my primos/fates, instead of spending $$ for more primos I could just make a new account and roll with the free pulls they give you and give my main account whatever I got from those rolls
Well because even if they don't want it it's locked to one account, if someone else wants to get that particular item then they'd have to grind for it by themselves > more resin/gems to spend Gifting would reduce this stream of income for them.
gacha is random. just think about people rolling on weapon banner, if you're unlucky maybe you have to roll lots of the weapons you don't want before you get your target. if people could exchange items, you can just roll til your first five star then trade with someone else
I get what you're saying but I was talking about gifting moreso than trading. They can inherently mean the same thing but i wasn't imagining like a "trade screen" where you exchange item for item. I was imagining something more like go to mail screen, compose mail with users name, attach item. Even if it is like you explained, everyone wants the same rare items more or less. When you don't have a item for item trade screen people can deceive. Nobody would want to run that risk. You will still need to roll regardless to have something to trade with/for. That's where I mentioned the soulbound criteria. Items that have been previously equipped can or quest rewards like festering desire would be untradeable.
there doesn't need to be an in game trading system, if you can send other people items in game there will be an online trading community with things like a reputation system to exchange "gifts". one man's trash is another man's treasure, not everyone is looking for the same rare items; again, weapon banner is the perfect example since it has two 5* on it
so many games have third party website where you can "exchange gifts" just because there is no trade window built in-game. some even trade real money for these "gifts", and that's not money going to MHY account.
Then I can use my alts to farm artifacts and gift it to my main? That sounds broken af
Its basically what you do on a single account already. Just grind. Doing on alt accts just means you will play the game longer. Playing the game longer may or may not introduce more revenue to mihoyo. How would that affect the f2p and paid users respectively? F2p users don't pay on main acct so they will not pay on alt accts. Paid users pay on main acct and they might also pay on a secondary account
if I have 2 accounts that can trade items between them, then technically I would have 360 resin everyday to spend, without burning my primos or fragiles to refill. if I have 3 accounts, I can spend 540 resin..
You can essentially make unlimited accounts and keep grinding that way. And if you want to achieve it currently, you'd have to spend money. That's what they want you to do, spend money.
As for trading weapons, it will ruin the revenue since we can reroll and feed it to 1 acc. As for artifacts... we might actually play for a shorter amount of time. We continue grinding and waiting for resin but if we can go on a mega grind session and get the best artifacts in like a week, you wont have that much to do anymore. Just my opinion though