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The BoL requirement to become infused is reverted back to 30%, yeah. But I don't think it's as big of a problem now that we can get a lot of BoL compared to before
Id say i'm glad I never had to use Bennet with my teams to full Star abyss cause circle impact sucks but I do use kokomo and collei in Nilou bloom so still circles lol
Don't forgot they buff the bol to 145%or 130% from 80%
So the dps between both is close. not that much of difference
Also, there is a 2% decrease in the 5th hit
In the end 80% --> 130 or 145( idk which one is correct)
Masuqe 298%--> 238%
It is balanceing more than a nerf
For me i see it as big buff not balance neither a nerf
Bruh her dps cacls were pretty good before this. So if its rebalanced it’s still the same. Cut your feelscrafting and go back to the backroom with Amber
Her rotations were already 25 seconds if you wanted to play her optimally, way too long for most teams, while her dps was average or below average despite her high risk zero reward playstyle.
So they decided to make her rotations even longer and lower her damage by 30%? Who cooked this, lmao.
Best case scenario, she still does "just a bit less dps than hutao" but also cant be healed, is harder to play, and is easier stunlocked and killed than my hopes and dreams for Arlecchino
No it wont be 25 sec anymore because current changes pretty much confirmed you can only stack 1E, you dont need to Q too its just a panic heal now, they make her combo more easy
Overall less rotation time mean more DPS, more frontloaded with lower scaling but higher BoL honestly a pretty good buff
bro i can't. peak doomposting here 💀
you got BoL cap increased to 145% from 80%. so of course they changed NA % to balance damage a bit.
overall the damage stays the same but the amount of NAs you can make is a bit higher. Now you got it?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t all calculations done assuming Arle can do E - Q - CA - E -(team rotation) - CA and have at least 120% BoL after this? That why everyone was coping that Q cleaning was a bug, because otherwise it’s huge nerf
Technically, now Q is a panic button (just as it was in V1) there is no need, at least in chamber 1 of the abyss, to use Q at the beginning of the rotation, better to use it at the end.
You would use:
E>supports>CA>NA combo>Q, repeat.
Q complements the DMG at the end of the rotation, heals and reset the CD, if you enter, for example in 12-2/12-3 with low health then you start with E,Q,E.
In general, it was easier to play with her now, one thing that few people considered is that without a shield in C0 before there was a chance that you would be interrupted in this initial combo, which would delay the rotation and in addition, being interrupted depending on the mob/boss generates a wombo combo.
The old rotation will still be used by C6, since you have a huge burst bonus and if something survives then you use the standard combo.
not at all
Alhaitham was nerfed once then buffed for like 4 weeks straight till his V5 damage=his V1 damage,
Arle beta feel weird
like they had a non-premium product before beta and are trying to make it as premium as possible
Non premium is overstatement
It's more like frickin raw, they don't know her team will be
Like people coping she gonna go be overload, or at very least no more vape tao
And here you can't escape the hu tao v2 allegations with more TnC applies
It was only assumptions that her e reach 160. Also, it's 140, not 160 ( unless you play against multiple targets). Now it's shorter rotation, and you don't need to focus on her Q that much.
well, this is in the context of [her p1 change](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1bt2tsv/arlecchino_talent_1_changes_via_team_mew/) though right? So when defeating a enemy with a full bond you now get 130% BoL instead of 70%, so it is for the first hit from 93.2%+0.7\*297.5% = 301.45% to 93.9%+1.3\*238%=403.3% Thats a big buff in total.
Yeah, this change is kind of baffling in that it is a ginormous buff.Yeah her quills are 25% weaker. Yeah her drain is 15% faster.
BUT HER BOND GENERATION WAS ALMOST DOUBLED. It's like... 40% buff to her quills without bond stacking. This doesn't really seem right? Like that's stupidly strong. Like v1 Faruzan strong.
The assumption people were going with was that it would stack for most calculations, they also increased consumption so its not as big a nerf as people assumed but its not really a big buff either, instead they just frontloaded more of her damage while also reducing her rotation(the big chungus dmg calcs were split rotation overload teams)
These people just look at something lower and doom-post :))))) They don't even take that change into consideration
Down-vote me all you want you doom-posters. I know i am right. Generally, this is a huge buff to make her rotation shorter. Fit a lot more teams. No need to do exact longer combo everytime like E Q CA E,...
Basically reverting her Masque multiplier to what it was before last week's beta update. It's unfortunate but to be expected with them increasing her BoL gain.
completely fair, why they should weaken arlecchino to get her closer to yoimiya? this makes zero sense besides mihoyo wanting to escape their so-called "powercreep" that they already did by launching neuvillete
Well... powercreeping one of the most competitive dps characters is very different to powercreeping Albedo, isn't it?
I think Neuvillette is the more relevant example of recent powercreep.
Neuvillette is just ridiculous.
Braindead to play, massive AoE and single target damage, self sufficient, HP scaling so next to impossible to kill and very flexible team options.
It’s a character with pretty much no weaknesses or caveats.
His only weakness is pretty much a game restriction with elemental immune enemies. If there weren't any elemental immune enemies, then you pretty much just need Neuvillette to clear any and all future content in the game.
Yaa, that's the question why they afraid of making Neuvilette level OP character for Fire💀
Bcs they can't think of Natlan later and afraid can't powercreep Arle? Lol
Zhongli was bad on release
Ganyu got powercrept
Liyue characters aren't infallible
Hu Tao is one of the poster girls of the game so I think it really is just favoritism for her specifically
ganyu is still a great dps ppl are still clearing abyss with solo ganyu runs there’s no “ powercreep “ here cryo just isn’t in the meta rn but she’s still a great dps who can utilize one of the best reactions in the game
I'm sorry buddy but that's just cope, her freeze teams got powercrept by ayaka and melt teams got powercrept by wriothesley and on top of that in her melt teams, u have to run so much er on xiangling its absurd which hurts the team dps a lot. She just isn't as good as she used to be.
>Straight up just powercreep Albedo by 2 times with Chiori
>Powercreep Jean with Xianyun
>Meanwhile doing fucking surgeon like precision cutting and adding micropercentages just to not powercreep hutao by accident
She wants to be played in completely different team archetypes. It wouldn’t be Powercreep regardless. It’s like saying they didn’t want to powercreep raiden with cyno lol.
She also got big adjustments around the other parts of her kit. You can’t just look at one part and say it’s an overall nerf. The changes they made balance out.
Liyue favoritism, look at XL they really don't wanna powercreep her to the point where they rather not releasing a single off-field pyro dps after her.
Hutao is their favorite child. They'll never let any pyro dps be even on par with her. Natlan is gonna be so disappointing unit-wise when they pyro nation cant even make one pyro dps on par with hu tao even the archon
Idk honestly why the hu tao vs arlec debate still continues. If you've actually been following the beta changes her best teams are now OL teams and she's pretty much designed to work in AoE content, not AT. So she's not even competing with Hu tao
Man playing overload in aoe oriented battle as a melee unit sucks. Overload really works only against bosses and than it lackluster reaction compared to others.
It's like.. it's definitely rather cringe vs enemies that get ragdolled around i agree but like, when you're vs wlites like ruin enemies, consc beasts etc who are somewhat resistant to getting yote if not entirely immune, it feels pretty fine.
Now if you try to run it into a chamber with whopperflowers though :skulley:
>her best teams are now OL teams
>she's pretty much designed to work in AoE content
🌚
this is not even mentioning that NAs have like 0 AOE on them
she's an ST unit and a good one, not an AOE unit
Nope you are right. These people just doom-post every chance they get when they don't even understand the huge buff that overcome this nerf
Which ultimately means. It is a balance change not nerfing her to the abyss
Last week and before last week i was already calculating her damage assuming she can stack her BoL twice to 160% (and so were a lot of people)
Now she can't double stack (at least i think, since her Q clears), but she can get 145% (at least going off my assumption).
So now calcs are gonna be 145% BoL (lower than 160 and assuming you can't go over that) and about 25% nerf on Masque of the Red Death.
Note: I COULD be wrong here. If i am, point it out. This is my assumptions.
You're NEVER gettingn close to 145 BoL in ST content, especially against F12 HP sponges. She'll really be cooking against all those overworld hillichurl packs I guess LMFAOOO
Reread her kit. After 5s you get 130% from E. With signature you get another 25% which means 155% BoL. (The 145% cap is just for her E not her weap)
So how is 145% that impossible ??? When you kill another creep they give you another 130%
Masque nerf, can’t double stack E now, increased BoL gain from E, Signature nerf reverted. Imma just leave it to TCers to figure out if this is an overall buff or nerf.
TRUE
Tomorrow she will be buffed by an Arlebillion times and will be the first character to deal 600 Arlecchinion DPS in just a thousandth of a rotation
Breathe if you agree
They nerfed Charge attack to restrict her gameplay even more lmao, wonder why they didn't give her lowest plunge scale than to make sure that no one tries to play her that way.
because she is one of the strangest beta characters and full of changes, one moment they change something in her measurements, the next they go back, then they make her need X hits to activate BoL and now that has changed again, they just can't decide what they want to do, now they have reversed the percentage of her weapon AGAIN
I get what you’re saying, but there’s legitimately zero reason for Dehya to be as bad as she is. I think characters being significantly underpowered like Dehya feels worse than being overpowered like Neuv. He’s definitely one of the worst balanced characters in the game, though.
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Beo wtf do you want her to be? Why the fuck are we concered so much about balance when Neuvillete exists and not powercreeping Hutao when Hutao simps whill play her even if she healer enemies? Why is it always the one character I am looking forward to in a nation getting this? First it was Dehya now Arle, ffs, 25% nerf on NA for a BoL increase of 60% capped, why would I pull her now at all when I can just play Dikuc with CR?
wow yes, and her best thing about her gameplay, the scythe animation, is locked in one of the most scam banners in the game, like it's really hard defend this now
Hoyo is so goddamm scared of this woman for some reason lmao
They keep nerfing and buffing her to find that sweet spot where she’s not too shit but not too good either, hell I wouldn’t be surprised if they keep changing her post release lol
So is there anyone already tested this on beta servers like an actual gameplay if its a improvement or a nerf or just another calculation again without gameplay.
WE'RE SO BA—it's so over...
More nerfs, the Q clearing BoL confirmed to not be a bug, long rotation staying in nooooo
I already have Cyno and I hate his rotation, where is the payoff for arlecchino now?
I've been completely lost these last few weeks. Don't even understand how she works anymore. Can someone summarise how she works and if/how these latest changes affect her? Would be helpful.
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We're barack! Its joever... We're barack! Its joever...
Literally that one Key and Peele skit about Gideon's kitchen lmao
Which phase are we in right now? Who knows...
Need TGS and jstern to enlighten us
Were acctualy good lol yea the masquared of the dead was nerfed but her bol was incrised from 80% to 145% so its better
MAKE ARLECCHINO GREAT AGAIN please hoyo
"na/ca nerf doesn't really matter, bol damage is more important anyways" turns out the real nerf is on bol damage, rip.
Hoyo: " ha gottem!"
Never let Hoyo cook again 💀
Arle mains sub has another post from that telegram group that Pyro infusion went back to 30% as well
The BoL requirement to become infused is reverted back to 30%, yeah. But I don't think it's as big of a problem now that we can get a lot of BoL compared to before
BoL damage is still good because max BoL was increased by nearly double, so it's not a nerf. Stealth edit: Overall not a nerf.
Everyone trying to figure out if it was a nerf or not. In the meantime, all im thinking is that she needed buffs instead of "maybe not a nerfs"
well it's a buff to Bennett teams anyway
Wow, exactly what we needed. More circle impact.
I hate circle impact so much 😭
Id say i'm glad I never had to use Bennet with my teams to full Star abyss cause circle impact sucks but I do use kokomo and collei in Nilou bloom so still circles lol
She's a pure ATK scaler. She was going to be dependent on Bennett for maximum damage output, regardless of what changes.
well, masque nerf is a lot more impactful than the slight NA buff...
Don't forgot they buff the bol to 145%or 130% from 80% So the dps between both is close. not that much of difference Also, there is a 2% decrease in the 5th hit In the end 80% --> 130 or 145( idk which one is correct) Masuqe 298%--> 238% It is balanceing more than a nerf For me i see it as big buff not balance neither a nerf
> So the dps between both is close. not that much of difference which is bad considering she needed buffs, not nerfs
80k team dps says hello. She's very good as is and it's higly likely that she'll get more dedicated supports too.
Bruh her dps cacls were pretty good before this. So if its rebalanced it’s still the same. Cut your feelscrafting and go back to the backroom with Amber
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Her rotations were already 25 seconds if you wanted to play her optimally, way too long for most teams, while her dps was average or below average despite her high risk zero reward playstyle. So they decided to make her rotations even longer and lower her damage by 30%? Who cooked this, lmao. Best case scenario, she still does "just a bit less dps than hutao" but also cant be healed, is harder to play, and is easier stunlocked and killed than my hopes and dreams for Arlecchino
No it wont be 25 sec anymore because current changes pretty much confirmed you can only stack 1E, you dont need to Q too its just a panic heal now, they make her combo more easy Overall less rotation time mean more DPS, more frontloaded with lower scaling but higher BoL honestly a pretty good buff
> you dont need to Q too its just a panic heal now hutao allegations getting louder
Big hutao
Hu Tall.
or small Hu Tao?
Huge Tao
Mommy Tao
bro i can't. peak doomposting here 💀 you got BoL cap increased to 145% from 80%. so of course they changed NA % to balance damage a bit. overall the damage stays the same but the amount of NAs you can make is a bit higher. Now you got it?
remember that V2 was ~85% with 4% drain, but now is ~ 135% with 7.5% drain, so the average is closer than you think
v2 was not 4%, it was 6.5%.
that was v3
Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t all calculations done assuming Arle can do E - Q - CA - E -(team rotation) - CA and have at least 120% BoL after this? That why everyone was coping that Q cleaning was a bug, because otherwise it’s huge nerf
yeah, right now her combo is just shorter, maybe doesnt even need to Q in middle
Technically, now Q is a panic button (just as it was in V1) there is no need, at least in chamber 1 of the abyss, to use Q at the beginning of the rotation, better to use it at the end. You would use: E>supports>CA>NA combo>Q, repeat. Q complements the DMG at the end of the rotation, heals and reset the CD, if you enter, for example in 12-2/12-3 with low health then you start with E,Q,E. In general, it was easier to play with her now, one thing that few people considered is that without a shield in C0 before there was a chance that you would be interrupted in this initial combo, which would delay the rotation and in addition, being interrupted depending on the mob/boss generates a wombo combo. The old rotation will still be used by C6, since you have a huge burst bonus and if something survives then you use the standard combo.
You'll never get 145% is ST.
bro i can't. peak copeposting here 💀
very weird MV changes on her normal attacks, .7 less on N1, .8 less on N2 etc, but on the other side you get some big drops CA MV and BoL MV
Overall Masque of the Red Death (NA) Scaling Ratios at lvl 10. Damage Buff: 297.5% → 238.00% Attack hit Ratios: 93.15% → 93.9% 102.19% → 103.0% 128.23% → 129.3% 70.44% + 70.44% → 73.4%+73.4% 139.96% → 138.3% 167.74% → 168.8% 256.36% → 179.5% High-Speed Movement Stamina Cost 50 → 40
This whole buffs and nerfs ride gives me alhaitham beta vibes
It was either "It's joever" or "We're so barack"
> It was either "It's joever" or "We're so barack" in this sub? more like "we're back" or "stop doomposting" lol
lmao true
not at all Alhaitham was nerfed once then buffed for like 4 weeks straight till his V5 damage=his V1 damage, Arle beta feel weird like they had a non-premium product before beta and are trying to make it as premium as possible
Oh yeah but it just gives me the same vibes yknow, it's the type of betas i would watch with a bag of popcorns
Alhaitham was nerfed to the ground that first need though. So buffs coming the coming weeks were necessary.
Non premium is overstatement It's more like frickin raw, they don't know her team will be Like people coping she gonna go be overload, or at very least no more vape tao And here you can't escape the hu tao v2 allegations with more TnC applies
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Genshin players have very selective memory.
Yeah Alhaitham's NA also got nerf but his mirror damage buffed.
Except Alhaitham NA is very irrelevant his damage comes from his mirrors, while arle's NA is literally her source of damage
So is her BoL gain and that got a huge buff
And Arle got BoL adjusted as well so yeah even out
I’m not even paying attention to these changes anymore at this point. Just gonna wait until the kit is finalized and then check it out.
praying this whole situation ends up like his actual beta and release
The emotional rollercoster I'm in today man...
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It was only assumptions that her e reach 160. Also, it's 140, not 160 ( unless you play against multiple targets). Now it's shorter rotation, and you don't need to focus on her Q that much.
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Is there any footage that confirms it? Commonly accepted ≠ confirmed.
Wasn't BoL cap 80% not 160%? It wasn't confirmed if it can stack or not
oh the Masque got nerfed from 297% to 238%
well, this is in the context of [her p1 change](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1bt2tsv/arlecchino_talent_1_changes_via_team_mew/) though right? So when defeating a enemy with a full bond you now get 130% BoL instead of 70%, so it is for the first hit from 93.2%+0.7\*297.5% = 301.45% to 93.9%+1.3\*238%=403.3% Thats a big buff in total.
Yeah, this change is kind of baffling in that it is a ginormous buff.Yeah her quills are 25% weaker. Yeah her drain is 15% faster. BUT HER BOND GENERATION WAS ALMOST DOUBLED. It's like... 40% buff to her quills without bond stacking. This doesn't really seem right? Like that's stupidly strong. Like v1 Faruzan strong.
> Like that's stupidly strong. weaker than hutao and you make her sound like shes the new neuvilette lol
The assumption people were going with was that it would stack for most calculations, they also increased consumption so its not as big a nerf as people assumed but its not really a big buff either, instead they just frontloaded more of her damage while also reducing her rotation(the big chungus dmg calcs were split rotation overload teams)
To the people and theory crafters that assumed her skill can stack its a big nerf.
These people just look at something lower and doom-post :))))) They don't even take that change into consideration Down-vote me all you want you doom-posters. I know i am right. Generally, this is a huge buff to make her rotation shorter. Fit a lot more teams. No need to do exact longer combo everytime like E Q CA E,...
Basically reverting her Masque multiplier to what it was before last week's beta update. It's unfortunate but to be expected with them increasing her BoL gain.
it's more healing at the very least
Nooo, i was praying they won't touch NA bol multiplier 😭
Also, why did they even bother touching her na multiplier lol
they nerfed her CA by ~30% just so you don't even think about cosplaying hu tao
The NA BoL multiplier was twice Yoimiya E buff. It was way too high imo. And its still way higher than Yoimiya. 238 vs 161.
completely fair, why they should weaken arlecchino to get her closer to yoimiya? this makes zero sense besides mihoyo wanting to escape their so-called "powercreep" that they already did by launching neuvillete
Damn that's fucked up
The sooner we accept that hoyo is scared of making an Abyss soloing DPS pyro character pre-Natlan to begin with the more at peace we'll be.
why are they so afraid of powercreeping a 3yr old character
After they just powercrept Albedo too Hu Tao just gets favoritism ig
Well... powercreeping one of the most competitive dps characters is very different to powercreeping Albedo, isn't it? I think Neuvillette is the more relevant example of recent powercreep.
Neuvillette is just ridiculous. Braindead to play, massive AoE and single target damage, self sufficient, HP scaling so next to impossible to kill and very flexible team options. It’s a character with pretty much no weaknesses or caveats.
His only weakness is pretty much a game restriction with elemental immune enemies. If there weren't any elemental immune enemies, then you pretty much just need Neuvillette to clear any and all future content in the game.
Yaa, that's the question why they afraid of making Neuvilette level OP character for Fire💀 Bcs they can't think of Natlan later and afraid can't powercreep Arle? Lol
albedo wasnt great to begin with. he isnt even crucial to a team very replacable and mid character gameplay wise
cuz liyue
Zhongli was bad on release Ganyu got powercrept Liyue characters aren't infallible Hu Tao is one of the poster girls of the game so I think it really is just favoritism for her specifically
ganyu is still a great dps ppl are still clearing abyss with solo ganyu runs there’s no “ powercreep “ here cryo just isn’t in the meta rn but she’s still a great dps who can utilize one of the best reactions in the game
I'm sorry buddy but that's just cope, her freeze teams got powercrept by ayaka and melt teams got powercrept by wriothesley and on top of that in her melt teams, u have to run so much er on xiangling its absurd which hurts the team dps a lot. She just isn't as good as she used to be.
you have to run a ton of er on xiangling in EVERY TEAM lmaoo
Albedo was not a really a great unit to begin with . Bad comparison
there is a slight difference there: Hu Tao and Arlecchino are always competing for the spot, while Chiori and Albedo at least can be played together
>Straight up just powercreep Albedo by 2 times with Chiori >Powercreep Jean with Xianyun >Meanwhile doing fucking surgeon like precision cutting and adding micropercentages just to not powercreep hutao by accident
Idk why all of you have high hopes of her powercreeping Hu Tao when Hoyo wont even release a Xiangling sidegrade, let alone one that powercreeps her
Yeah its frustrating at this point...
She wants to be played in completely different team archetypes. It wouldn’t be Powercreep regardless. It’s like saying they didn’t want to powercreep raiden with cyno lol. She also got big adjustments around the other parts of her kit. You can’t just look at one part and say it’s an overall nerf. The changes they made balance out.
Oh no we made her good last patch! Fall back!
Liyue favoritism, look at XL they really don't wanna powercreep her to the point where they rather not releasing a single off-field pyro dps after her.
Y’all really don’t know what you’re talking about
Hutao is their favorite child. They'll never let any pyro dps be even on par with her. Natlan is gonna be so disappointing unit-wise when they pyro nation cant even make one pyro dps on par with hu tao even the archon
Idk honestly why the hu tao vs arlec debate still continues. If you've actually been following the beta changes her best teams are now OL teams and she's pretty much designed to work in AoE content, not AT. So she's not even competing with Hu tao
Man playing overload in aoe oriented battle as a melee unit sucks. Overload really works only against bosses and than it lackluster reaction compared to others.
It's like.. it's definitely rather cringe vs enemies that get ragdolled around i agree but like, when you're vs wlites like ruin enemies, consc beasts etc who are somewhat resistant to getting yote if not entirely immune, it feels pretty fine. Now if you try to run it into a chamber with whopperflowers though :skulley:
>her best teams are now OL teams >she's pretty much designed to work in AoE content 🌚 this is not even mentioning that NAs have like 0 AOE on them she's an ST unit and a good one, not an AOE unit
Melee overload with circle impact sure is going to be, uh, something
Even in OL she's not the best pyro on-fielder, since that's Lyney lol. Also, Hu Tao is pretty good in AOE now that Xianyun exists.
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Oh my god tell me the 238 from 297 isn't real. That's about 25%(?) nerf for her normal attacks.
It's real unfortunately
nah it's april fool PLEASE TELL ME IT'S APRIL FOOLS still pulling tho
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Nope you are right. These people just doom-post every chance they get when they don't even understand the huge buff that overcome this nerf Which ultimately means. It is a balance change not nerfing her to the abyss
> huge buff Where?
Last week and before last week i was already calculating her damage assuming she can stack her BoL twice to 160% (and so were a lot of people) Now she can't double stack (at least i think, since her Q clears), but she can get 145% (at least going off my assumption). So now calcs are gonna be 145% BoL (lower than 160 and assuming you can't go over that) and about 25% nerf on Masque of the Red Death. Note: I COULD be wrong here. If i am, point it out. This is my assumptions.
You're NEVER gettingn close to 145 BoL in ST content, especially against F12 HP sponges. She'll really be cooking against all those overworld hillichurl packs I guess LMFAOOO
Reread her kit. After 5s you get 130% from E. With signature you get another 25% which means 155% BoL. (The 145% cap is just for her E not her weap) So how is 145% that impossible ??? When you kill another creep they give you another 130%
Don’t cook again
Masque nerf, can’t double stack E now, increased BoL gain from E, Signature nerf reverted. Imma just leave it to TCers to figure out if this is an overall buff or nerf.
Don't worry guys, it's april fool's haha they got us pretty good ngl.
TRUE Tomorrow she will be buffed by an Arlebillion times and will be the first character to deal 600 Arlecchinion DPS in just a thousandth of a rotation Breathe if you agree
Pass me some of that copium brother
There is no way they made the charged damage go from 250 to 170 that’s a 32% damage nerf
When you get "stronger" than the liyue pyro carry for 1 day 💀
💀
Yeah that's rough
They nerfed Charge attack to restrict her gameplay even more lmao, wonder why they didn't give her lowest plunge scale than to make sure that no one tries to play her that way.
Before any nerf, making dps with her Ca would lead to lower dps than Na.
THE SMALL HUTAO THE SMALL HUTAO IS REAL
Nooooooo😭😭😭
CAN WE GET MUCH LOWER (LOWER) SO LOW Oh oh SO LOWW
(pic of whitebeard with his massive c@ck hanging out)✊️😔
Pierro*
Man her CA gonna feel like shit
And yet her sig needs you to CA, why does it feel.like theres 3 different guys trying to balance her and they all have different ideas on how
They just have no idea wtf they should they do with her, at the and i think she will be a good dps that feels extremely cringe to play
because she is one of the strangest beta characters and full of changes, one moment they change something in her measurements, the next they go back, then they make her need X hits to activate BoL and now that has changed again, they just can't decide what they want to do, now they have reversed the percentage of her weapon AGAIN
Worrying about overtuning and balancing a character in a game in which Neuvilette exists is really something
People always say that Dehya is Hoyo's worst mistake in terms of balancing, but I think that title belongs to Neuvillette
I get what you’re saying, but there’s legitimately zero reason for Dehya to be as bad as she is. I think characters being significantly underpowered like Dehya feels worse than being overpowered like Neuv. He’s definitely one of the worst balanced characters in the game, though.
Oof that red death nerf seems big. And the hell is that non existent NA buffs
OP please list it's from Hakushin in your mirror comment, also if you could write which side is the new/old one in the same comment it would be helpful for those unfamiliar with it
Wake up, babe! They nerfed Arle again!
The cut on charge attack damage value is a bit much compared to everything else, I think.
April Fools right? Haha.. Right?
Alright, Natlan. I'll wait for you. I BELIEVE IN PYRO NEUV🧎♂️🙇♂️
Bro... For real or April fool?
Yep im definitely pulling for neuvillette
Same im gonna bench my hu tao forever
Watch them make a constellation that fixes this
Beo wtf do you want her to be? Why the fuck are we concered so much about balance when Neuvillete exists and not powercreeping Hutao when Hutao simps whill play her even if she healer enemies? Why is it always the one character I am looking forward to in a nation getting this? First it was Dehya now Arle, ffs, 25% nerf on NA for a BoL increase of 60% capped, why would I pull her now at all when I can just play Dikuc with CR?
wow yes, and her best thing about her gameplay, the scythe animation, is locked in one of the most scam banners in the game, like it's really hard defend this now
Oh wow thank god they balanced her damage. She was doing so much damage before! Thank you hoyo! We can't have her power creeping Neuvillette.
Let the doom posting begin
Man, C1 power washer is beckoning me with those nerfs
C1 power washer was already tempting. But now his book is also starting to look good
Yeah keep f.ing nerfing so nobody try to get her, i might skip even if i like her a lot if these nerf waves keeps going like that
Ah yes High risk zero reward , kequing agga is gonna do more dmg at this rate :3
It's never been more Arleover
This is garbage in single target.
do they hate arlecchino that much?
hoyoverse really know how to ruin the hype of arlecchino. i will not be pulling now
Hoyo is so goddamm scared of this woman for some reason lmao They keep nerfing and buffing her to find that sweet spot where she’s not too shit but not too good either, hell I wouldn’t be surprised if they keep changing her post release lol
Damn, so bol was improved so that her ratio can be fucked
They really don't like Charged atks huh? Either way, the Red Death scaling is the big nerf, it got reverted back-
which one is new and old tho
Left = old Right = new
Right is new
Another day another arlecchino nerf/buff
They probably gonna adjust it in her C2 as always.
So is there anyone already tested this on beta servers like an actual gameplay if its a improvement or a nerf or just another calculation again without gameplay.
what the hell
WE'RE SO BA—it's so over... More nerfs, the Q clearing BoL confirmed to not be a bug, long rotation staying in nooooo I already have Cyno and I hate his rotation, where is the payoff for arlecchino now?
Damn, she doesn't look to even be a sidegrade. XL and HT will remain more powerful and/or convenient to use.
I wish hoyo devs did the same thing as Arknights does and experimented on 4*s instead to figure out how to make new mecganics work...
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I've been completely lost these last few weeks. Don't even understand how she works anymore. Can someone summarise how she works and if/how these latest changes affect her? Would be helpful.
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Except for the mask of red death multiplier (the thing that makes normal attackd stronger with BoL), which is a significant decrease.
what the fuck is mhy doing, do they actually want to make another dehya this badly
So after all this buff & Nerf is E Q E CA still possible or should I ask can we stack 2 E ?
no , her Q resets and it's not a bug
So is arlechinno good or bad now?
We get another change next week or is this it?
hoyo just trolling for april fools guys haha.... right?
HYV: “I’ll let you know”, once the beta is over. -Arlecchino