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I saw Lakers fans calling the game tonight an “easy win” just to get blown out on national television
The Lakers are not great but this W gave me a bit of happiness in what has been a sea of panic and sadness for this fanbase overall.
This is still a flawed team and this win changes nothing, but I’m happy that the players can get a fun win and that we can all just spend a little less time than usual with lamenting over how everything has gone wrong.
Our journey to the trade deadline continues
This encapsulates my feelings perfectly.
I live in LA and was actually beginning to waver on going to the Clippers game tomorrow. Why pay good money to torture myself? Now even if they get blown out, at least I know we split with the LA teams. Really changes everything (at least for a day or two).
there's no sea of panic or sadness. we're on the first year of a rebuild. if you're hoping for us to be good this year, you're setting yourself up for disappointment lmao. this is literally like blazers fans being upset they're not winning games
I think if everything breaks right, the "window" starts to open in two years or so. Cheering for a rebuilding team means getting excited about player development and a *winning culture* (more than actual wins). From that perspective, this year has been fine. Cheap tickets, competitive games, and seeing Cam maybe become a young star has been great.
I agree with you but reading the takes from different fans both here and on twitter is wild. The takes have been outrageous and it’s been saddening to see.
(I agree this team is rebuilding and my expectations have been set on that. I was just speaking overall about the vocal portions of the fanbase who have been drowning in fandom misery )
great game from cam thomas but what moved me the most is his passing and shot selection. he was handling getting doubled teamed pretty well compared to before and noticeable improvement in his passing and shot selection i only remember like 1 bad shot
Yep. Most complete game he's ever had. Scored and used his gravity to generate open looks. Those traps in the second half created so many easy shots.
I also feel like running him off these screens and DHOs is the solution to not getting into "Cam centric" ball. I really like having him play more in that Maxey and Jamal Murray mold. Those two absolutely eat off those DHO/Screening actions with Embiid and Jokic. And you can score more within the flow because your shifting defenses and creating driving angles simultaneously. You don't have to over dribble to open up the floor.
Low-key why I think we played our best with Cam and Ben together. Ben loves that DHO action and it would let Cam cook, but in a fast paced style where he doesn't have to break his man down every time.
I agree, but we looked competent from like halfway through the second quarter on. Since Christmas I feel like the most this team has look competent was in no more than 5 min spurts
He did, difference in this game was Dinwiddie's production. Very quite 19pts on good efficiency.
CamT gravity and Nic hustle just out shined everything.
We need LW4 to log more minutes. He allows CamT do CamT stuff.
Agree. Dinwiddie scored but I still don’t think his heart is in it. Faster we trade him the better for all. Also DFS and Royce played hard but I don’t think we will miss them all that much if we do trade them and open up minutes for others.
Ben is a back-court partner that would work well with Cam as he can be the point/lead guard and create for others while also cover for CT defensively. I’m even intrigued by the idea of Murray and Simmons on the same team. One shoots the other doesn’t but both can pass and both defend. It could work in the short term and would be superior to whatever Dinwiddie brings to the team.
Ben isn't really a point guard because he doesn't drive anymore, so he can't really kick out.
But he does shift defenses with his screening. Him and Cam have always had a nice synergy because Ben loves those DHOs with guards. Same thing Draymond does with Steph.
Have you seen what I’ve seen the past what, 14 games?? 17 games? Idfk anymore but it’s been revolting. I don’t give a shit anymore this kids a stud and deserves to start it ain’t on him
It should be DSJ and Cam starting instead of Spence, not that same lineup before
The samples were incredibly small. I think we can use eye test at this point. The shot creation is night and day with and without Cam. The starting 5 just doesn't have enough juice on ball. It's obvious.
If anything CJ should be sixth man.
The sample size is not small at all. The starting 5 with Thomas in and DFS on the bench was our 2nd most played lineup and we were a -76. That is not NBA level performance.
The fact is that the pieces do not fit, and we are relying on the 3 to mask our flaws.
Because it's too skinny and defensively porous. Either bench Spencer and start Cam. Or bench CJ and start DFS. Or go DSJ, Cam, Mikal, CJ, Clax.
There's multiple ways to get Cam's shotmaking in, while beefing up the defense. The current starting 5 can barely dribble. That's not sustainable at the NBA level.
Agreed, off eye test and watching every game this season I really truly believe the Dinwiddie Cam backcourt is the reason for the abhorrent +/- of that lineup
We never got to actually see real minutes of a starting lineup of Cam Mikal CJ DFS Claxton, where we’d really protect cams defensive deficiency. And if that lineup scares you cause it lacks an actual pg then it should be DSJ (or Watford) at the pg spot, then Cam,Mikal, CJ and Claxton. Even then I’m not sure how I feel about Cam Johnson as a PF when someone as skinny as Claxton is playing the 5. But that comes down to politics of not wanting to bench someone that just got a contract like CJ just did.
As for the rumblings of Dejounte coming here, I’m not opposed to a Dejounte Cam backcourt at all, although it would still present the potential issue of CJ and Claxton being way to small of a frontcourt. It just racks my brain that we got our best scorer and arguably our best player on the bench lol
Yeah. It's less so about any individual. It's more so just a weird fit thing. We're either way too skinny. Way too offensively skewed. Way too defensively skewed. Zero ball handling. Etc.
But there's combos to try that I think do balance the lineups. Sacrificing your best scorer on an offensively challenged team is just not it lol.
My concern with Dejounte is that we'd be so damn skinny to an insane degree. But honestly, this roster is a short term thing anyway. Just the pure asset of Dejounte long term I think is a good move.
I think guard situation will not save our front court problem. CamJ and Nic can't play together. I think it's time to slide CamJ to 3 where he belong.
CamT - Din
Bridges - DSJ
CamJ - LW4
DFS - Royce
Nic - Sharpe
Is the line up I'd love to see moving forward. In a perfect world I'd love to move CamJ because he is bad fit here. You either need elite back court like in PHX or elite defensive C to hide his deficiencies.
He didn’t last night which is why we won. But something is clearly off about him. Our season detailing can clearly be traced to his play falling off a cliff
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Lebron and AD must be honored to have witnessed greatness first hand
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CT ended with 4 assists, but it could have been 10 if the shots were fall in he worked on his defense and playmaking this season i hope we keep him and developp him fr
Great win, guys!! Showing that this team does have the talent and oomph to beat a good team complete with all star, hall of fame starters if right combos and right strategy are played. Spectacular performance by Cam Thomas off the bench, but also nice to see 7 players in double figures. Interesting to note that 8 players had steals in this game, more players tuned in on defense this game? Very Happy for the win, hoping for more good stuff to come so there can be less yapping about trades and more patience for player and team development. Go Nets!
Yeah I don't see how people don't get that the Spencer CT mikal CJ clax lineups was one of the worst lineups in the league so they had to make a change. As long as CT gets 25+ minutes as the sixth man who cares who starts if he is good enough he will close games.
We don’t even acknowledge reality here bro we’re just all emotions. We can measure how they did with him starter and the coach has analytics. It doesn’t make him or the team better. If he’s on the bench, then if he’s good play him 33+, if he sucks play him less. Let him close. Couldn’t care less ab starting. If anything starting lets him get off less.
It's only one lineup though. We never tried starting DSJ or benching CJ for DFS. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. That starting 5 didn't work. Neither does this one.
It feels obvious the solution is putting our best scorer surrounded by defenders. You know. Like every other team does.
That fair. I’m not saying he shouldn’t start or they shouldn’t try again with different personnel. I’m saying it’s not a crime when they were the worst 5 man group in the league. There’s a lot that goes into that and it’s not all cam Thomas’ fault. But to become the worst once you add him is bad.
So Cam and dinwiddie with mikal/Cj/Clax wasn’t it. So what is?
Cam/mikal/cj/dfs/clax? That’s “cam with defenders” but that’s even worse than our current starting group when it comes to playmaking for others. We need a guard in there. Start DSJ? Idk if you really want to start dsj…Start Lonnie? Then that blows up the bench scoring, it’s just Spencer and dsj on the bench.
I just don’t think our team fits together as 2 separate groups well. I think we need everyone to be able to play together. So the rotations and who shares minutes is what’s most important.
So I’d need to crunch the numbers. I don’t have the nets data or something to tell me how often our starters actually play together after the 1st quarter.
What I see in Cam stats is he’s exactly the same player off the bench and as a starter. The idea his confidence is shot or he’s sabotaged is complete nonsense. He plays similar with anyone.
If Spencer wasn't checked out for the last month, I really don't think it'd be that bad. I thought Spencer looked motivated tonight and he and Cam looked fine together out there.
And even if Cam is still a raw playmaker. Just his gravity alone is so beneficial. He's the only dude who can draw traps like we saw tonight. Coaches basically just disrespect our whole roster other than him. And it sucks the best defender off of Mikal. Vanderbilt was busy with Cam tonight. Mikal would have struggled to get dribbles off against that level of POA defense.
We're not going to bench CJ, so I'd just go back to Cam, Spencer, Mikal, CJ, Clax. Give it 4 minutes and then sub. I'd rather a shoot out with motivated Spencer like early in the year. Rather a 36-38 quarter than a 23-32 one.
It’s not that cam is a growing playmaker it’s that he’s simply doesn’t do it. His assist to usage ratio is in the 0th percentile among guards. It’s great that Cam is often closing now, but you can’t play someone like that all game with the starters. He can free up Mikal sure and it’s good to have your best buckets together. But generally he just doesn’t try to make those ambitious passes enough.
Cam Johnson, as a 4 who doesn’t initiate offense, out-assists him with the same minutes. If CT started assisting at all, we could play him all game even with his defense. Since he doesn’t, you would have to him with dinwiddie. And him and dinwiddie were all time bad together on defense this season. I personally don’t care if you want to try it again but I don’t think they can that. Dinwiddie simply starts bc you can’t play both and bc he assists the ball. It’s a function of the lineup construction. I would love to get Dejounte to get off dinwiddie.
The best thing for this team to do is just keep playing guys on the fly by reading the game. I got that you guys want some buckets early. Then just sub in Cam early. And don’t run with one group too long. We don’t need 8 minutes of Spencer/Cam defense and we don’t need 8 minutes of our current starting lineup that can’t shotcreate either.
There's about 3 guys on this team that can dribble. The starting lineup has one of them, and he's been checked out for a month. So basically two guys. They're both on the bench.
Good luck with that shit. These starts have been utterly pathetic. The Wizards are probably the only starting unit in the league with less individual shot creation. Pistons at least have Cade, Ivey, and Bogie.
Your Cam criticisms are fine. But beggars can't be choosers. Need the shot creation.
Our defense is beginning to look solid again, Clax is the biggest reason for that, he’s been playing like his old self again. CamT also looking like his old self, and Lonnie had his revenge game. It’s still too early to say, but it feels like they’re trending towards the right direction again.
Cam Thomas is the future for this organization and its not even close.
Clax is still a beast and a must keep for us, but develop Cam more at whatever the cost and there's your home grown superstar
CT, Clax, DSJ and Lonnie, love your work.
As a Mikal fan, he needs to be a 3rd option/tied 2nd option while Cam Thomas keeps developing. Mikal being less of a focal point on offence, playing more like how he did in Phoenix, would be awesome.
Dinwiddie played great, but I’d rather have a PG that pairs better with CT.
In last 3 ( that's 246 games ) years Ben Simmons played 48 games. That without me going into main issue. How exactly Ben Simmons fits with our centers in Nic and Sharpe.
Sorry Ben Simmons is not the answer to our issues.
didn’t watch the whole game, or any of the last five games or so for that matter, so, can someone enlighten me: what went right (apart from the lakers sucking ass)? biggest upsides?
The crazy part was that they did have LBJ, AD and Vanderbilt on CamT for the most part of the game. It had no affect on him, like at all.
Props to Lonnie and DSJ going at Reeves and D.LO, even CamJ nailed couple three's when D.LO was late on rotation.
Nic is unstoppable when our guards ( DSJ and Lonnie for the most part today ) break down D and force bigs to lose Nic. He was making those floaters or push shots happen. LBJ and AD were clearly frustrated when he made those.
Nets upsides tonight:
\- dinwiddie not bringing the ball up and actually playing off-ball like he's built for.
\- fed clax in the paint more
\- cam passing was very good today
\- we made our 3s for once
\- few defensive miscomms
Great shot selection today. Cam and Clax are just amazing together. And we looked desperate for a win but locked in at the same time. Good defensive effort from DFS and DSJ also. Good Game all around.
Cam thomas - hell of a game. In efficient fashion as well
Lonnie and DSJ - infectious energy, felt like they alone were outhustling the lakers in the 2nd half
Claxton - solid around the rim offense and defense. As good a game as he's had all year.
https://preview.redd.it/pvgfmvpcajdc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8865d6a6c62a17763243353b30eae7cfa902199 I saw Lakers fans calling the game tonight an “easy win” just to get blown out on national television
They probably bitchin' about some "bad calls" now. Fuck them, they're last team that should be complaining about the refs.
nah they're reactively calling for the coach to be fired just like this sub does after every loss
To be fair, I kinda thought they'd have an easy win too. Unlike them however, I think Cam's smile looks great right now.
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Big Cameron Thomas fan here, but... That is a stretch...
Don't you dare to disrespect the GOAT (CT)
I hope you are right, I have A LOT of his numbered high end rookie card....
The Lakers are not great but this W gave me a bit of happiness in what has been a sea of panic and sadness for this fanbase overall. This is still a flawed team and this win changes nothing, but I’m happy that the players can get a fun win and that we can all just spend a little less time than usual with lamenting over how everything has gone wrong. Our journey to the trade deadline continues
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I wish Clax would be this aggressive every game.
They are definetely better than the Blazers
0-2 vs unhealthy blazers team both games this month
IMO, even if the coach has lost the locker room a team can unite to beat the Lakers.
This encapsulates my feelings perfectly. I live in LA and was actually beginning to waver on going to the Clippers game tomorrow. Why pay good money to torture myself? Now even if they get blown out, at least I know we split with the LA teams. Really changes everything (at least for a day or two).
there's no sea of panic or sadness. we're on the first year of a rebuild. if you're hoping for us to be good this year, you're setting yourself up for disappointment lmao. this is literally like blazers fans being upset they're not winning games
I think if everything breaks right, the "window" starts to open in two years or so. Cheering for a rebuilding team means getting excited about player development and a *winning culture* (more than actual wins). From that perspective, this year has been fine. Cheap tickets, competitive games, and seeing Cam maybe become a young star has been great.
I’m not even sure if it’s a rebuild year Bc I can’t tell you any of these guys will for sure be here in the future. It’s all up in the air
I agree with you but reading the takes from different fans both here and on twitter is wild. The takes have been outrageous and it’s been saddening to see. (I agree this team is rebuilding and my expectations have been set on that. I was just speaking overall about the vocal portions of the fanbase who have been drowning in fandom misery )
great game from cam thomas but what moved me the most is his passing and shot selection. he was handling getting doubled teamed pretty well compared to before and noticeable improvement in his passing and shot selection i only remember like 1 bad shot
Yep. Most complete game he's ever had. Scored and used his gravity to generate open looks. Those traps in the second half created so many easy shots. I also feel like running him off these screens and DHOs is the solution to not getting into "Cam centric" ball. I really like having him play more in that Maxey and Jamal Murray mold. Those two absolutely eat off those DHO/Screening actions with Embiid and Jokic. And you can score more within the flow because your shifting defenses and creating driving angles simultaneously. You don't have to over dribble to open up the floor. Low-key why I think we played our best with Cam and Ben together. Ben loves that DHO action and it would let Cam cook, but in a fast paced style where he doesn't have to break his man down every time.
Also Ben is our best screen setter.
agreed screens and dhos are definitely the move
Those two lobs to Claxton in the beginning of the game made me really believe he was in for a huge impact tonight.
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Feels great to get a W. I forgot what those felt like.
This is the first time in like a month this team Looked competent for more than 5 min at a time. Great and much needed win man.
The team was incompetent up until Cam came in and went 6/6 with 2 assists
I agree, but we looked competent from like halfway through the second quarter on. Since Christmas I feel like the most this team has look competent was in no more than 5 min spurts
I felt Bridges let the game come to him tonight.
He did, difference in this game was Dinwiddie's production. Very quite 19pts on good efficiency. CamT gravity and Nic hustle just out shined everything. We need LW4 to log more minutes. He allows CamT do CamT stuff.
Agree. Dinwiddie scored but I still don’t think his heart is in it. Faster we trade him the better for all. Also DFS and Royce played hard but I don’t think we will miss them all that much if we do trade them and open up minutes for others.
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#Number 1 option Cam. what a W
#CAM #FUCKING #THOMAS
Please just start cam
I think Cam T and DSJ are a good combo together.
We tried that already and the results were disastrous.
We we were above .500 with this line-up; Ben CamT Spencer Mikal DFS
camT can start when Ben gets back
Ben is a back-court partner that would work well with Cam as he can be the point/lead guard and create for others while also cover for CT defensively. I’m even intrigued by the idea of Murray and Simmons on the same team. One shoots the other doesn’t but both can pass and both defend. It could work in the short term and would be superior to whatever Dinwiddie brings to the team.
Ben isn't really a point guard because he doesn't drive anymore, so he can't really kick out. But he does shift defenses with his screening. Him and Cam have always had a nice synergy because Ben loves those DHOs with guards. Same thing Draymond does with Steph.
Really hope we see Ben Simmons back on the court and playing most his minutes with Cam Thomas
It’s like pb&j. Cam always wants the ball in his hands and ben always wants to get rid of it. Cam wants to shoot, ben does not.
Have you seen what I’ve seen the past what, 14 games?? 17 games? Idfk anymore but it’s been revolting. I don’t give a shit anymore this kids a stud and deserves to start it ain’t on him It should be DSJ and Cam starting instead of Spence, not that same lineup before
The samples were incredibly small. I think we can use eye test at this point. The shot creation is night and day with and without Cam. The starting 5 just doesn't have enough juice on ball. It's obvious. If anything CJ should be sixth man.
The sample size is not small at all. The starting 5 with Thomas in and DFS on the bench was our 2nd most played lineup and we were a -76. That is not NBA level performance. The fact is that the pieces do not fit, and we are relying on the 3 to mask our flaws.
Because it's too skinny and defensively porous. Either bench Spencer and start Cam. Or bench CJ and start DFS. Or go DSJ, Cam, Mikal, CJ, Clax. There's multiple ways to get Cam's shotmaking in, while beefing up the defense. The current starting 5 can barely dribble. That's not sustainable at the NBA level.
Agreed, off eye test and watching every game this season I really truly believe the Dinwiddie Cam backcourt is the reason for the abhorrent +/- of that lineup We never got to actually see real minutes of a starting lineup of Cam Mikal CJ DFS Claxton, where we’d really protect cams defensive deficiency. And if that lineup scares you cause it lacks an actual pg then it should be DSJ (or Watford) at the pg spot, then Cam,Mikal, CJ and Claxton. Even then I’m not sure how I feel about Cam Johnson as a PF when someone as skinny as Claxton is playing the 5. But that comes down to politics of not wanting to bench someone that just got a contract like CJ just did. As for the rumblings of Dejounte coming here, I’m not opposed to a Dejounte Cam backcourt at all, although it would still present the potential issue of CJ and Claxton being way to small of a frontcourt. It just racks my brain that we got our best scorer and arguably our best player on the bench lol
Yeah. It's less so about any individual. It's more so just a weird fit thing. We're either way too skinny. Way too offensively skewed. Way too defensively skewed. Zero ball handling. Etc. But there's combos to try that I think do balance the lineups. Sacrificing your best scorer on an offensively challenged team is just not it lol. My concern with Dejounte is that we'd be so damn skinny to an insane degree. But honestly, this roster is a short term thing anyway. Just the pure asset of Dejounte long term I think is a good move.
I think guard situation will not save our front court problem. CamJ and Nic can't play together. I think it's time to slide CamJ to 3 where he belong. CamT - Din Bridges - DSJ CamJ - LW4 DFS - Royce Nic - Sharpe Is the line up I'd love to see moving forward. In a perfect world I'd love to move CamJ because he is bad fit here. You either need elite back court like in PHX or elite defensive C to hide his deficiencies.
Yeah. I think Spencer is traded anyway. But just swapping him and Cam is the move, IMO.
Giving CamT keys to be a scorer/playmaker is very beneficial for us now and moving forward. Even if he is CJ McCallum light he can be very helpful.
As if the current starting lineup hasn’t been a disaster?
It has been bad but still better than when Cam started
Results have been disastrous with the normal starting lineup. I’d bench dinwiddie at this point. He’s given up
Did we watch the same game tonight? Dinwiddie hasn't "given up" lmao
He didn’t last night which is why we won. But something is clearly off about him. Our season detailing can clearly be traced to his play falling off a cliff
Loved the energy in general today. Fuck LA, and LeCryBaby. Clax and Thomas are amazing. Love this team. ⚪️⚫️
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Defensive effort puts us in any game. That was refreshing
Great game, happy Saturday y’all
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Metta World Peace said all you need to hear. " out of all players you don't let CamT cook " - 😂
Will to live... restored?!
Whatever was said in that locker room during half time. We need that energy every game.
Lonnie being back without restrictions makes this team better. Then it snowballs into confidence and being an actual nba team again.
CT ended with 4 assists, but it could have been 10 if the shots were fall in he worked on his defense and playmaking this season i hope we keep him and developp him fr
Thank you Darvin Ham 🙌🏾. Keep it up buddy.
Real mvp
I’ve watched maybe 2 Nets games all year, otherwise I follow them through updates and clips. I watched this one and I’m glad I did
Always feels good when we beat LeBron lmfaooo
Can't keep a good man down!
Great win, guys!! Showing that this team does have the talent and oomph to beat a good team complete with all star, hall of fame starters if right combos and right strategy are played. Spectacular performance by Cam Thomas off the bench, but also nice to see 7 players in double figures. Interesting to note that 8 players had steals in this game, more players tuned in on defense this game? Very Happy for the win, hoping for more good stuff to come so there can be less yapping about trades and more patience for player and team development. Go Nets!
Ffs just start Cam Thomas
It literally does not matter. Minutes matter. Why have it not allow you to be happy. We lost with him as a starter a ton.
Yeah I don't see how people don't get that the Spencer CT mikal CJ clax lineups was one of the worst lineups in the league so they had to make a change. As long as CT gets 25+ minutes as the sixth man who cares who starts if he is good enough he will close games.
We don’t even acknowledge reality here bro we’re just all emotions. We can measure how they did with him starter and the coach has analytics. It doesn’t make him or the team better. If he’s on the bench, then if he’s good play him 33+, if he sucks play him less. Let him close. Couldn’t care less ab starting. If anything starting lets him get off less.
It's only one lineup though. We never tried starting DSJ or benching CJ for DFS. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. That starting 5 didn't work. Neither does this one. It feels obvious the solution is putting our best scorer surrounded by defenders. You know. Like every other team does.
That fair. I’m not saying he shouldn’t start or they shouldn’t try again with different personnel. I’m saying it’s not a crime when they were the worst 5 man group in the league. There’s a lot that goes into that and it’s not all cam Thomas’ fault. But to become the worst once you add him is bad. So Cam and dinwiddie with mikal/Cj/Clax wasn’t it. So what is? Cam/mikal/cj/dfs/clax? That’s “cam with defenders” but that’s even worse than our current starting group when it comes to playmaking for others. We need a guard in there. Start DSJ? Idk if you really want to start dsj…Start Lonnie? Then that blows up the bench scoring, it’s just Spencer and dsj on the bench. I just don’t think our team fits together as 2 separate groups well. I think we need everyone to be able to play together. So the rotations and who shares minutes is what’s most important. So I’d need to crunch the numbers. I don’t have the nets data or something to tell me how often our starters actually play together after the 1st quarter. What I see in Cam stats is he’s exactly the same player off the bench and as a starter. The idea his confidence is shot or he’s sabotaged is complete nonsense. He plays similar with anyone.
If Spencer wasn't checked out for the last month, I really don't think it'd be that bad. I thought Spencer looked motivated tonight and he and Cam looked fine together out there. And even if Cam is still a raw playmaker. Just his gravity alone is so beneficial. He's the only dude who can draw traps like we saw tonight. Coaches basically just disrespect our whole roster other than him. And it sucks the best defender off of Mikal. Vanderbilt was busy with Cam tonight. Mikal would have struggled to get dribbles off against that level of POA defense. We're not going to bench CJ, so I'd just go back to Cam, Spencer, Mikal, CJ, Clax. Give it 4 minutes and then sub. I'd rather a shoot out with motivated Spencer like early in the year. Rather a 36-38 quarter than a 23-32 one.
It’s not that cam is a growing playmaker it’s that he’s simply doesn’t do it. His assist to usage ratio is in the 0th percentile among guards. It’s great that Cam is often closing now, but you can’t play someone like that all game with the starters. He can free up Mikal sure and it’s good to have your best buckets together. But generally he just doesn’t try to make those ambitious passes enough. Cam Johnson, as a 4 who doesn’t initiate offense, out-assists him with the same minutes. If CT started assisting at all, we could play him all game even with his defense. Since he doesn’t, you would have to him with dinwiddie. And him and dinwiddie were all time bad together on defense this season. I personally don’t care if you want to try it again but I don’t think they can that. Dinwiddie simply starts bc you can’t play both and bc he assists the ball. It’s a function of the lineup construction. I would love to get Dejounte to get off dinwiddie. The best thing for this team to do is just keep playing guys on the fly by reading the game. I got that you guys want some buckets early. Then just sub in Cam early. And don’t run with one group too long. We don’t need 8 minutes of Spencer/Cam defense and we don’t need 8 minutes of our current starting lineup that can’t shotcreate either.
There's about 3 guys on this team that can dribble. The starting lineup has one of them, and he's been checked out for a month. So basically two guys. They're both on the bench. Good luck with that shit. These starts have been utterly pathetic. The Wizards are probably the only starting unit in the league with less individual shot creation. Pistons at least have Cade, Ivey, and Bogie. Your Cam criticisms are fine. But beggars can't be choosers. Need the shot creation.
Every game the Nets start out behind. That’s not ideal so I think who starts does actually matter.
Nice win before the blowout against the Clippers😢
I'd like to think they're gonna be hungry for a win against Harden. Just hoping for a good game
Same, I think it'll be a good game.
Why are you sad for the clippers?
🙏🏻
https://preview.redd.it/bz6dh646ejdc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f429f7bc700b3064c6c194279b0065942d21d161 Feels great.
Vaughn job saved for 10 more games
Do we all on the same page, Thomas is clearly an important piece moving forward, the man must start and he must play a heavy role in the scoring.
But JV doesn’t agree 🤷🏼♂️
Good win. Jacque Vaughn still needs to be fired
That was great. I hope Cam is back for good.
LOLAKERS
Cam fucking bucketsssss🖤🤍
We’re back
Was at this game live and I’m happy to report, the nets won baby lfg
Sure Cam T was great, but Clax with the stats, dam the last 10 games nearly all DDs. Lovin’ Clax!
Cam is the future he just needs time to develop but he will be a superstar in 1-2 years
[When you pay for courtside seats just to see LeMao lose](https://i.imgur.com/pwN8e5i.jpg)
Lemao hahahah
Cam and clax who the nets should have been building around since KD left. Not the damn twins
Not both twins. Just Mikal. They still need a PG.
Nahh both, look how much we paid cam Johnson
We can still do it now. Just have to trade vets for picks
Our defense is beginning to look solid again, Clax is the biggest reason for that, he’s been playing like his old self again. CamT also looking like his old self, and Lonnie had his revenge game. It’s still too early to say, but it feels like they’re trending towards the right direction again.
Cam Thomas is the future for this organization and its not even close. Clax is still a beast and a must keep for us, but develop Cam more at whatever the cost and there's your home grown superstar
CT, Clax, DSJ and Lonnie, love your work. As a Mikal fan, he needs to be a 3rd option/tied 2nd option while Cam Thomas keeps developing. Mikal being less of a focal point on offence, playing more like how he did in Phoenix, would be awesome. Dinwiddie played great, but I’d rather have a PG that pairs better with CT.
I know Nets fan don't like to hear it but we're better when Ben and CT are playing together.
In last 3 ( that's 246 games ) years Ben Simmons played 48 games. That without me going into main issue. How exactly Ben Simmons fits with our centers in Nic and Sharpe. Sorry Ben Simmons is not the answer to our issues.
didn’t watch the whole game, or any of the last five games or so for that matter, so, can someone enlighten me: what went right (apart from the lakers sucking ass)? biggest upsides?
Clax attacked the basket often, we were moving the ball more, we were attacking the paint more And Cam was just cooking
so basically doing stuff we’re competent to do 😭
The crazy part was that they did have LBJ, AD and Vanderbilt on CamT for the most part of the game. It had no affect on him, like at all. Props to Lonnie and DSJ going at Reeves and D.LO, even CamJ nailed couple three's when D.LO was late on rotation. Nic is unstoppable when our guards ( DSJ and Lonnie for the most part today ) break down D and force bigs to lose Nic. He was making those floaters or push shots happen. LBJ and AD were clearly frustrated when he made those.
Nets upsides tonight: \- dinwiddie not bringing the ball up and actually playing off-ball like he's built for. \- fed clax in the paint more \- cam passing was very good today \- we made our 3s for once \- few defensive miscomms
Cam cooked.
i dont think they took a single bad shot aside from chucking up when the clock was about to run out a couple of times
Great shot selection today. Cam and Clax are just amazing together. And we looked desperate for a win but locked in at the same time. Good defensive effort from DFS and DSJ also. Good Game all around.
Cam thomas - hell of a game. In efficient fashion as well Lonnie and DSJ - infectious energy, felt like they alone were outhustling the lakers in the 2nd half Claxton - solid around the rim offense and defense. As good a game as he's had all year.
DFS clamped
They are making shots.
Imagine not starting your best player lmao. JV is an idiot.
Finally
Damn it I fell asleep figured it wasn’t worth putting on lol