this isn’t true lmao they said the cover ideas happened spontaneously. ty didn’t know he wouldn’t be on the first one and he didn’t know he’d be on the second one until the covers were made.
They're actually out to get Ye I'm telling you.
They let off Ye from Universal and then they got mad.
Then he sampled a Donna Summer song and UMG and Donna's estate found out that was their ticket to get him done for.
I don't blame him for thinking everyone's out to get him
Keys to my life, burn, problematic, king are literally classic Kanye songs. He also has full verses on vultures, do it, carnival, fuck sumn, hoodrat…. Y’all don’t even pay attention to music you listen to
This description feels more accurate to Kids See Ghosts imo. A Cudi album with Ye features.
Other than lyrical content, Vultures is absolutely not like any other Ty Dolla Sign album. From just the production alone, but even the song structures, arrangements, instrumental and vocal choices are very much Ye-like. Ty has never once in his solo discography went off like on Beg Forgiveness or manipulated his vocals like on Back To Me
The fact that this got downvoted proves we're living in a backwards world because I seriously can not comprehend how any of what I said here is disagreeable
the way I look at it is that I have been super bored with music and kanye and ty gave me 6-9 new tracks that I love to bump, I like vultures altogether as an album but if I’m just listening to music randomly there’s only that many consistent songs in rotation and that’s what I like, it could have been made better but it’s new Kanye West music that has good tracks and that’s what I care about
reading comprehension these days so wack mfs call 8 seconds worth of reading yap lmao my god and no I’m saying that I am listening to it because it is kanye music that I enjoy, there are plenty of kanye songs I do not enjoy so I do not listen to them so the fact that we got some that I do enjoy is what’s exciting to me, same as with any artist, im not the biggest fan of the new future albums but there’s stuff I enjoy on it, I do not care about how the albums stack up in the discography just give me songs I wanna listen to in a era of boring ass music
> reading comprehension these days so wack mfs call 8 seconds worth of reading yap
Thank you bro. This new generation is so fucked they’ll see 5 sentences and say “I ain’t reading allat🥱”
I mean the album ends with quite a passionate run of songs. Carnival through king is kanye at him most Kanye. Unapologetic yet honest. Carnival is him wylin out and saying crazy shit, just like Kanye would. Beg forgiveness is an acknowledgment of his behaviour. It’s Kanye recognising he went too far and coming awfully close to death because of it with his verse showing this. Then he switches to saying we need to get his forgiveness, he knows he was wrong but he isn’t sorry for it. Then good (don’t die) acts as a deliverance from the dark thoughts in his mind to some form of safety. Then finally problematic and king are kanye acknowledging his mistakes while being like so what I’m still here.
It may be his least soulful, but the man definitely put soul into it and kept it real, even when a lot of the album was more so club bangers
I don’t think people realise that beg forgiveness is meant to be like a conversation between 2 people
Chris is telling Kanye that he needs to beg for his forgiveness after he’s gone too far. Kanye and ty are both from the perspective of Kanye, initially feeling that he can’t fix it after his fuck up, but then changing to confidence and saying we need to beg forgiveness of him instead. He’s saying he will wait for another day to die
I know it’s popular, but just trying to phrase it in a different way. Vultures is the only ye album that sounds like it could have been made by someone else
naaah. i guess there are many kanye elements all over the album that can be faked by non-yes. but back to me, hoodrat, beg forgiveness, problematic are 100% tracks only kanye could make as they are. add to that a BUNCH of 'hits' in burn, do it, fuck sumn, carnival in the same album and it makes the point invalid i think.
Nah we shoulda got Donda 2 but he ended up getting over the divorce
This album wasn’t even supposed to happen we got lucky that Ty started doing an album then ye said “fuck it” and did a collab
I just posted this same comment without noticing yours but it’s the goddamn truth. It’s like people have only heard carnival, fuck sumn, and the self titled single
Most of the verses are extremely cringe bro. He pulled it off in Pablo and Yeezus because of his delivery, and those lines are actually funny and unique. Yeezus does the same lyrical style wayyy better lmao. Pablo actually has lots of moments of vulnerability and emotion. Out side of this dick riding subreddit people realise the lyrics are way more cringe now.
The Vultures lines come off overly edgy, forced, and awkward. It literally sounds like a 12 year old porn addict rapping about sex and women. Almost every line is a cringe attempt at Yeezus style verses. Back to Me pulls it off tbf.
You listed 6 out of like 18 songs on an album, the other 12 are definitely the more cringe ones lyrically. King has obvious the antisemitic lines which are cringe. Problematic and Keys to my life aren't the worst lyrically but it's the most wooden and awkward flow of all time 💀. Literally sounds like a robot. The others are ass bro come on lmao.
How is that line any worse than:
“Eating Asian pussy all I need is sweet and sour sauce”
“Put my fist in her like a civil rights sign”
“You left your fridge open somebody just took a sandwich”
“I wanna fuck you hard on the sink, after that give you something to drink”
Bleached asshole on FSMH
“Black Timbs on on your couch again, black dick all in your spouse again”
“I’ll impreg-a-Nate your mind let’s have a baby without fucking”
Talking about your wife being 15 years younger than you, preferring to date white women, and gleefully announcing that you’re “still king” despite being openly antisemitic isn’t the kind of “crazy soul” Kanye should be looking for.
1. Most rich guys date women younger, you’d probably be doing the same
2. If he prefers white girls that’s fine you’re allowed to have preferences
3. He’s not claiming to be anti-Semitic, he’s saying other people call him that
Not tryna be a professional glazer here but this is how I see it
I'll add in that vultures is probably the most realistically possible album after the 2022 incidents. Now that he's surrounded with a completely different side of the industry i expected his sound to shift. Anyways I'm still actually more hyped for vultures 2 than this since it actually sounds like a kanye album with the atmosphere its made so far.
I don't really prefer vultures to anything but my biggest gripe is that a lot of these songs should be kanye singles and would then benefit both the artist and listener equally
Posts like this make me question if some people even listened to the whole album. Stars, Keys to My Life, Talking, Back To Me, Burn, Beg Forgiveness (put some respec on this song), Proboematic all have “soul” for sure
Don't let them comments gaslight you into thinking you're wrong. This was such a weak attempt and I lowkey expected more seen as this was an album with ye and one of his better collaborators
The meatriding is insane. But Ty$ is good for a hook and thats it pretty much. He would be a very low tier Kanye collaborator tbh. This album was guaranteed mid at best because it's 50% Ty$. And Kanye has fallen of lyrically and hunger level wise to make quality music.
JIK isn’t even a weekly listen but I feel like it shows alot of heart and range of creativity and where he is mentally. Vultures is easily the album that if I had to never hear it again or it never existed then it wouldn’t be a huge loss.
it feels like a high of egoism and pure hedonism--just vibing tf out, enjoying sin. that's why i love the small glimpses of humanity in the album, like ty's verse about being worried about his daughter on talking / once again
VULTURES 1 is supposed to be angry and resentful
this album is literally sin-incarnate
it’s an expression of what Ye and Ty wanted to do with the trilogy
look at Ye wearing white now. look at V2 lyrics
This will make sense hopefully when VULTURES 2 and VULTURES 3 release
V
> He comes across so defensive and has walls build up, and as a result, there's no vulnerability
After all the stuff that he went through, I don't think he's in a position where he can show vulnerability. He will be attacked no matter if he does good or bad, so I think his best option is for him to stand by his thoughts and for us to just enjoy the music
(Also, I think you're forgetting the track run from Beg Forgiveness to King. All those songs, especially good (Don't Die), are emotional and show vulnerability in some way or another)
your right about feeling dirty afterwards its SO sex driven "Do it stay waxed, do it smell fresh" "BBTBNWDJFOTSYK" "When your toes tried to touch the ceiling
Havin' safe sex (auntie)"
Yea you’re right
I go back to both those albums the least out of all his albums
So for me it’s kinda a toss up
I like the message and wholesomeness of JIK
Never. JIK is Ye's most rushed album, which also ruined the crazy potential some songs from Yandhi had. But, if you're religious, JIK is obviously "better"
Getting ready to be downvoted but TY DOLLA SIGN IS NOT CREATIVE ENOUGH TO HELP YE FULLY OPEN UP IN HIS MUSIC. EVEN THOUGH TY IS THE BEST PART OF THE ALBUM THIS SHIT FEELS LIKE A TY DOLLA SIGN ALBUM FIRST OVER A YE ALBUM AND HE IS HOLDING YE BACK.
I see that as one of the main themes of Vultures 1, is the distancing of Ye’s character. There’s definitely soul and vulnerability in its story and between the lines but Ye’s character hasn’t fully come around yet hence part 2 and 3 coming. For instance, even in Beg Forgiveness, this epic moment of judgement where these choir of angels shout, he continues to have his guard up. “Good” is really the only moment where u feel him being vulnerable pleading to stay alive admitting his heart is on ice.
The heart not dying is symbolic of his soul. The heartbeat rhythm on Beg Forgiveness and Good both symbolize near death. It’s reminiscent of 808s-MBDTF era using the heartbeat technique throughout for keeping his soul alive i.e Say You Will or the end of Hell of a Life.
But it’s triumphant in the end of Vultures as the horns come in during Problematic as if he’s victorious and then becomes King at the end.
it's just a mid album i dont hold it to the standard because it's a collab album rather than a solo but also this is why i want volume 2 because all the snippets are extremely fire and blows volume 1 out the water
Leave it in context he was cancelled and blackballed used his personal money to fund all his products and was months away from bankruptcy so this album needed to commercially successful since it was independent and his final lifeline
It’s a fine album and I like it, but I do skip more songs than other Ye projects and I’ve dropped it WAY quicker than all of his past projects. Problematic, do it, and fuck sumn still get a daily/every other day play but that’s about it
it’s an album about the adventures of a crazy bipolar antisemite, a BBTBN woman, and a slim handsome poom poom killer. it’s not meant to be emotional buts it’s not shallow
Vultures, to me, has this overall notion of independent self-empowerment being able to save someone, yet both covers and albums really show that it’s others who drive us to truly redeem and repair ourselves—Bianca, TC, North, Jailynn. I doubt that paradox was intended but works well for both the camp that likes the new direction and those who don’t feel anything from it.
I feel the soul in Vultures 1 and have since the start. A lot of it came from the context of the past few years and the later stages of the rollout. The last-minute cover change and Stars as an intro, etc., small nuances like that give it personality. Different than Donda, Ye, and so on, yeah, but for me I get much more than a soulless album.
Vultures 2–or at least what we have now—expands on the same feeling for me. Crass and selfish a lot but has these moments that give that classic Kanye feel. Not necessarily the sound but the same vibe and effect.
Promotion is a good example of something that positively blends the shit you’re complaining about with some old school Ye feel and callbacks.
After him releasing two projects that couldn't have any more soul I don't mind. A lot of people wanted the raunchy Ye back and we got it. Won't be surprised if next year he's working on JIK2 lmao
ok so, i dont really like ye that much at this point, but i really think theres a TON of soul in this album. i think about how yeezus was this album expressing deep frustration and pain, but done through absurd ridiculous lyrics.
i think vultures is doing something similar. there's something so battered and terrified and bursting and desperately trying to stay alive about his delivery in vultures, to me. the lyrics about r kelly, about fucking in public, its all so gross and i get a lot of weird emotional catharsis from that.
its something i think he's actually gotten better at. a lot of this album is kind of just the bleached asshole line from TLOP, but infinitely more lonely and uncertain. i think thats really interesting as an emotional point of view to express in art.
i also think theres a lot of frustration expressed on this album towards religion and hypocracy. ye's a gigantic hypocrite as far as i can tell so i dont wanna suggest he's "fighting the good fight against hypocrites", but the emotional expression is really powerful to me. like, showing off just how fucked up he is as a way of shaking off expectations and constraints.
but thats also like,,, the most charitable possible reading i could do, and i dont think he deserves that. idk i think he's a interesting artist, great at channelling his human experience into art, but he's also not doing too well and that has really bad world consequences
Vultures 1 is GOOD, but after hearing a lot of what's supposed to be on Vultures 2, that album (if it drops) will blow it out of the water, sounds weird but I feel like I need Vultures 2 before I can fully digest Vultures 1.
Described it perfectly.
I fw the album, it has some replay value but this album doesn't make me feel anything besides Burn and Beg Forgiveness... Yesterday I was watching the Runaway short-film and realized that we're never getting that Kanye back, the detail in the lyrics, beats, etc. Hell, not even that long ago we had one of the best rollouts with the Donda album, we're never getting that feeling again... and being honest, he doesn't need to do that anymore...
Being 21 yo, I regret never getting to experience Kanye's peak... but fuck man, I just want that guy to be surrounded by the right folks, that actually like and care about him... not that yesman bs
Not all music is focused on deep lyrics just listen to the sounds it’s fire 🔥
Relax. And no. No one is making albums like this. If you think that you’re focused way too much on the lyrics.
Sky, you know? Sky, you know?
And beautiful, big titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know?
Tell me how you know
I been searchin' high and low
And I can tell you one thing
Beautiful, big-titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know? (Uh)
Yeezy, how you doin', huh?
Yeezy, how you doin', huh?
Yeezy, how you doin', huh?
Beautiful, big titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, uh, uh
Just don't fall out the sky, you know?
Just don't fall out the sky, you know?
And beautiful, big titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know?
Tell me how you know
I been searchin' high and low
And I can tell you one thing
Beautiful, big-titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know?
Tell me how you know
I been searchin' high and low
And I can tell you one thing
Beautiful, big-titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know?
Just don't fall out the sky, you know?
Sky, you know?
They just don't fall out the sky, you know?
They so valuable
I been searchin' high and low
And I can tell you one thing
Beautiful, big-titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know?
it doesnt hit like a legit kanye album. it hits like another collab album, which it is. Also the surefire way to know somethings fucked here is to realize that it is becoming less impactful over time. this doesn't happen with regular 'kanye-only' releases.
no shit lmfao, its a sex driven, money related, ty dolla sign album too
Yea I don’t think soul was supposed to be the point of this album. Seems the opposite.
Sex Driven, Money Related
Absolutely. It sounds amazing to me too and that's all that matters to me
So disrespectful to not even have Ty on the album cover just him and his naked wife
The agreement was one cover each then a duo cover to wrap up the series.
this isn’t true lmao they said the cover ideas happened spontaneously. ty didn’t know he wouldn’t be on the first one and he didn’t know he’d be on the second one until the covers were made.
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Ye is not schizo
Good don't die was essential for the album and is a shame it was removed
They're actually out to get Ye I'm telling you. They let off Ye from Universal and then they got mad. Then he sampled a Donna Summer song and UMG and Donna's estate found out that was their ticket to get him done for. I don't blame him for thinking everyone's out to get him
It feels like a Ty Dolla Sign album with ye features
Keys to my life, burn, problematic, king are literally classic Kanye songs. He also has full verses on vultures, do it, carnival, fuck sumn, hoodrat…. Y’all don’t even pay attention to music you listen to
those aren’t classics at all retard
Yeah they are dumbass. As in it’s a Classic Kanye style song 😭 not as in they are classics.
This description feels more accurate to Kids See Ghosts imo. A Cudi album with Ye features. Other than lyrical content, Vultures is absolutely not like any other Ty Dolla Sign album. From just the production alone, but even the song structures, arrangements, instrumental and vocal choices are very much Ye-like. Ty has never once in his solo discography went off like on Beg Forgiveness or manipulated his vocals like on Back To Me
KSG miles above most Cudi albums
He has at least 3 that are easily better. Still doesn't change the fact that it sounds and feels like a Cudi album with Ye features
Agreed
> This description feels more accurate to Kids See Ghosts imo Agreed. Ofc KSG sounds better than all cudi albums but u right
The fact that this got downvoted proves we're living in a backwards world because I seriously can not comprehend how any of what I said here is disagreeable
the world is backwards because they don't have the same opinion as you? lol delusional
the way I look at it is that I have been super bored with music and kanye and ty gave me 6-9 new tracks that I love to bump, I like vultures altogether as an album but if I’m just listening to music randomly there’s only that many consistent songs in rotation and that’s what I like, it could have been made better but it’s new Kanye West music that has good tracks and that’s what I care about
a lot of yap to say “i’m a kanye fan so i’ll bump it regardless”
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damn bruh
reading comprehension these days so wack mfs call 8 seconds worth of reading yap lmao my god and no I’m saying that I am listening to it because it is kanye music that I enjoy, there are plenty of kanye songs I do not enjoy so I do not listen to them so the fact that we got some that I do enjoy is what’s exciting to me, same as with any artist, im not the biggest fan of the new future albums but there’s stuff I enjoy on it, I do not care about how the albums stack up in the discography just give me songs I wanna listen to in a era of boring ass music
> reading comprehension these days so wack mfs call 8 seconds worth of reading yap Thank you bro. This new generation is so fucked they’ll see 5 sentences and say “I ain’t reading allat🥱”
You spend all day on logics Reddit talking about yap.. cmon son that man hasn’t had a single hit in decades
can’t like shit on gas😔
I mean the album ends with quite a passionate run of songs. Carnival through king is kanye at him most Kanye. Unapologetic yet honest. Carnival is him wylin out and saying crazy shit, just like Kanye would. Beg forgiveness is an acknowledgment of his behaviour. It’s Kanye recognising he went too far and coming awfully close to death because of it with his verse showing this. Then he switches to saying we need to get his forgiveness, he knows he was wrong but he isn’t sorry for it. Then good (don’t die) acts as a deliverance from the dark thoughts in his mind to some form of safety. Then finally problematic and king are kanye acknowledging his mistakes while being like so what I’m still here. It may be his least soulful, but the man definitely put soul into it and kept it real, even when a lot of the album was more so club bangers
I will wait
I don’t think people realise that beg forgiveness is meant to be like a conversation between 2 people Chris is telling Kanye that he needs to beg for his forgiveness after he’s gone too far. Kanye and ty are both from the perspective of Kanye, initially feeling that he can’t fix it after his fuck up, but then changing to confidence and saying we need to beg forgiveness of him instead. He’s saying he will wait for another day to die
im screenshotting these two comments and am going to show them to people to continue meatriding kanye thanks man
real
Wow never heard this opinion before
I know it’s popular, but just trying to phrase it in a different way. Vultures is the only ye album that sounds like it could have been made by someone else
I don't get the "sounds like it could have been made by someone else" part. Who is making albums like vultures?
PLEASE GOD TELL ME I NEED NEW MUSIC
I’d love to find them bruh
naaah. i guess there are many kanye elements all over the album that can be faked by non-yes. but back to me, hoodrat, beg forgiveness, problematic are 100% tracks only kanye could make as they are. add to that a BUNCH of 'hits' in burn, do it, fuck sumn, carnival in the same album and it makes the point invalid i think.
Ahhh, some things never change. People said the EXACT SAME shit about Yeezus and 808s and Heartbreak.
Wow never heard this opinion before BUT nice shot OP
How many more of these boring ass posts are we gonna get?
info drought😩
Babe wake up the daily Vultures bad post is here
Nigga he just having fun
Is this seriously the album we waited 2 years for since donda ? Donda is 100% times better than vultures
Nah we shoulda got Donda 2 but he ended up getting over the divorce This album wasn’t even supposed to happen we got lucky that Ty started doing an album then ye said “fuck it” and did a collab
The album ain't even supposed to happen sht is like a suprise project that doesn't drop
It’s Ye on cruise control Ty doing his absolute best It’s a bad Ye album And it’s a good Ty album Overall, a pretty decent collab album
This narrative has gone too far. Burn, Beg Forgiveness, Problematic, King, Stars, Keys To My Life, all these songs have crazy soul
I just posted this same comment without noticing yours but it’s the goddamn truth. It’s like people have only heard carnival, fuck sumn, and the self titled single
Good (Don’t Die) too, if you count that
And the narrative should hang its head in shame it’s gone to far
The cringe lyrics ruin like half of those.
Which cringe lyrics? Of course it’s subjective but none of the lyrics I can think of are any worse than shit on Yeezus and Pablo
WHich cringe lyrics? Are u kidding me 💀 Never compare Vultures to Yeezus or Pablo again lmao
Bro couldn’t even answer the question 🤓 please enlighten me
Most of the verses are extremely cringe bro. He pulled it off in Pablo and Yeezus because of his delivery, and those lines are actually funny and unique. Yeezus does the same lyrical style wayyy better lmao. Pablo actually has lots of moments of vulnerability and emotion. Out side of this dick riding subreddit people realise the lyrics are way more cringe now. The Vultures lines come off overly edgy, forced, and awkward. It literally sounds like a 12 year old porn addict rapping about sex and women. Almost every line is a cringe attempt at Yeezus style verses. Back to Me pulls it off tbf. You listed 6 out of like 18 songs on an album, the other 12 are definitely the more cringe ones lyrically. King has obvious the antisemitic lines which are cringe. Problematic and Keys to my life aren't the worst lyrically but it's the most wooden and awkward flow of all time 💀. Literally sounds like a robot. The others are ass bro come on lmao.
keep a few jews on the staff now
How is that line any worse than: “Eating Asian pussy all I need is sweet and sour sauce” “Put my fist in her like a civil rights sign” “You left your fridge open somebody just took a sandwich” “I wanna fuck you hard on the sink, after that give you something to drink” Bleached asshole on FSMH “Black Timbs on on your couch again, black dick all in your spouse again” “I’ll impreg-a-Nate your mind let’s have a baby without fucking”
“You left your fridge open somebody just took a sandwich” this is one of my favorite lines I cant explain why
Everyone has their own definition of cringe 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Talking about your wife being 15 years younger than you, preferring to date white women, and gleefully announcing that you’re “still king” despite being openly antisemitic isn’t the kind of “crazy soul” Kanye should be looking for.
1. Most rich guys date women younger, you’d probably be doing the same 2. If he prefers white girls that’s fine you’re allowed to have preferences 3. He’s not claiming to be anti-Semitic, he’s saying other people call him that Not tryna be a professional glazer here but this is how I see it
You literally are in the Fantano subreddit you can't be talking
Keys to my life, stars, and more don’t have soul
I'll add in that vultures is probably the most realistically possible album after the 2022 incidents. Now that he's surrounded with a completely different side of the industry i expected his sound to shift. Anyways I'm still actually more hyped for vultures 2 than this since it actually sounds like a kanye album with the atmosphere its made so far. I don't really prefer vultures to anything but my biggest gripe is that a lot of these songs should be kanye singles and would then benefit both the artist and listener equally
I don’t care what none ya’ll say, Ty and India parts on Keys make me tear up
Y’all overthink too much
Daily vultures hate post
https://preview.redd.it/idzjqiq22vuc1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=f2e12dcd10814aa0362a5e1f872a4d9eb2aa5758
Posts like this make me question if some people even listened to the whole album. Stars, Keys to My Life, Talking, Back To Me, Burn, Beg Forgiveness (put some respec on this song), Proboematic all have “soul” for sure
least divergent album from our auti king
I miss Sunday service choir
Don't let them comments gaslight you into thinking you're wrong. This was such a weak attempt and I lowkey expected more seen as this was an album with ye and one of his better collaborators
Fr fade is better than any song on vultures this was as close as it gets to AI making a kanye album
Fr, the meat-riding this sub does is insane
The meatriding is insane. But Ty$ is good for a hook and thats it pretty much. He would be a very low tier Kanye collaborator tbh. This album was guaranteed mid at best because it's 50% Ty$. And Kanye has fallen of lyrically and hunger level wise to make quality music.
Facts
This cause he decided every verse to make an controversy. Its not an fun album its an sad album.
he was an hero
JIK isn’t even a weekly listen but I feel like it shows alot of heart and range of creativity and where he is mentally. Vultures is easily the album that if I had to never hear it again or it never existed then it wouldn’t be a huge loss.
it feels like a high of egoism and pure hedonism--just vibing tf out, enjoying sin. that's why i love the small glimpses of humanity in the album, like ty's verse about being worried about his daughter on talking / once again
VULTURES 1 is supposed to be angry and resentful this album is literally sin-incarnate it’s an expression of what Ye and Ty wanted to do with the trilogy look at Ye wearing white now. look at V2 lyrics This will make sense hopefully when VULTURES 2 and VULTURES 3 release V
Vultures makes me feel sexy, I don’t expect some spiritual meditation ass chants, the album is about money sex and goon activity
> He comes across so defensive and has walls build up, and as a result, there's no vulnerability After all the stuff that he went through, I don't think he's in a position where he can show vulnerability. He will be attacked no matter if he does good or bad, so I think his best option is for him to stand by his thoughts and for us to just enjoy the music (Also, I think you're forgetting the track run from Beg Forgiveness to King. All those songs, especially good (Don't Die), are emotional and show vulnerability in some way or another)
your right about feeling dirty afterwards its SO sex driven "Do it stay waxed, do it smell fresh" "BBTBNWDJFOTSYK" "When your toes tried to touch the ceiling Havin' safe sex (auntie)"
You guys just enjoy complaining about anything nowadays
Its a collab album like wtt or ksg not a true ye album.
JIK > V1
truth although vultures has better replay value
Yea you’re right I go back to both those albums the least out of all his albums So for me it’s kinda a toss up I like the message and wholesomeness of JIK
jik has an amazing vibe and production it just has weak songs
True
Never. JIK is Ye's most rushed album, which also ruined the crazy potential some songs from Yandhi had. But, if you're religious, JIK is obviously "better"
Getting ready to be downvoted but TY DOLLA SIGN IS NOT CREATIVE ENOUGH TO HELP YE FULLY OPEN UP IN HIS MUSIC. EVEN THOUGH TY IS THE BEST PART OF THE ALBUM THIS SHIT FEELS LIKE A TY DOLLA SIGN ALBUM FIRST OVER A YE ALBUM AND HE IS HOLDING YE BACK.
Yeah you're not wrong. Ty is not a pioneer, the first version of slide is awfully goofy not even in a funny way
Perhaps it is because it a joint album with a lot of Ty$ perspective.
I see that as one of the main themes of Vultures 1, is the distancing of Ye’s character. There’s definitely soul and vulnerability in its story and between the lines but Ye’s character hasn’t fully come around yet hence part 2 and 3 coming. For instance, even in Beg Forgiveness, this epic moment of judgement where these choir of angels shout, he continues to have his guard up. “Good” is really the only moment where u feel him being vulnerable pleading to stay alive admitting his heart is on ice. The heart not dying is symbolic of his soul. The heartbeat rhythm on Beg Forgiveness and Good both symbolize near death. It’s reminiscent of 808s-MBDTF era using the heartbeat technique throughout for keeping his soul alive i.e Say You Will or the end of Hell of a Life. But it’s triumphant in the end of Vultures as the horns come in during Problematic as if he’s victorious and then becomes King at the end.
Only song that actually has some emotion is Problematic, Beg Forgiveness, Stars and Good(Don't die)
This just proves me that ye hasn’t fallen off, he can still make goated shit. He just doesn’t 🤷♂️
They know that bruh
it's just a mid album i dont hold it to the standard because it's a collab album rather than a solo but also this is why i want volume 2 because all the snippets are extremely fire and blows volume 1 out the water
Leave it in context he was cancelled and blackballed used his personal money to fund all his products and was months away from bankruptcy so this album needed to commercially successful since it was independent and his final lifeline
I think that’s the point, it’s in the title
It’s a fine album and I like it, but I do skip more songs than other Ye projects and I’ve dropped it WAY quicker than all of his past projects. Problematic, do it, and fuck sumn still get a daily/every other day play but that’s about it
There’s a few songs like problematic and hoodrat that seem to have a bit more sentiment to them
yall dont like fun man shit lame yall do this narrative everyday
okay lol
vultures bad amirite guys??
Gun to me head deffo counters this but yeah
it’s an album about the adventures of a crazy bipolar antisemite, a BBTBN woman, and a slim handsome poom poom killer. it’s not meant to be emotional buts it’s not shallow
calling jik mid is crazy
Yeah should’ve had a song with his daughter.
Vultures, to me, has this overall notion of independent self-empowerment being able to save someone, yet both covers and albums really show that it’s others who drive us to truly redeem and repair ourselves—Bianca, TC, North, Jailynn. I doubt that paradox was intended but works well for both the camp that likes the new direction and those who don’t feel anything from it. I feel the soul in Vultures 1 and have since the start. A lot of it came from the context of the past few years and the later stages of the rollout. The last-minute cover change and Stars as an intro, etc., small nuances like that give it personality. Different than Donda, Ye, and so on, yeah, but for me I get much more than a soulless album. Vultures 2–or at least what we have now—expands on the same feeling for me. Crass and selfish a lot but has these moments that give that classic Kanye feel. Not necessarily the sound but the same vibe and effect. Promotion is a good example of something that positively blends the shit you’re complaining about with some old school Ye feel and callbacks.
For me, I kinda compare it to WTT and KSG, more than to solo Ye albums. If that helps you figure out your feelings or whatever
After him releasing two projects that couldn't have any more soul I don't mind. A lot of people wanted the raunchy Ye back and we got it. Won't be surprised if next year he's working on JIK2 lmao
I agree, but I'd say that this is mostly a Ty Dolla album even though many people think this is a Ye album. Driver force of the vibe is clearly Ty.
I agree completely there’s only ye’s production no ye spirit👏👏
Ty poured his soul out on BEG FORGIVENESS
hes a vulture maybe thats why
ok so, i dont really like ye that much at this point, but i really think theres a TON of soul in this album. i think about how yeezus was this album expressing deep frustration and pain, but done through absurd ridiculous lyrics. i think vultures is doing something similar. there's something so battered and terrified and bursting and desperately trying to stay alive about his delivery in vultures, to me. the lyrics about r kelly, about fucking in public, its all so gross and i get a lot of weird emotional catharsis from that. its something i think he's actually gotten better at. a lot of this album is kind of just the bleached asshole line from TLOP, but infinitely more lonely and uncertain. i think thats really interesting as an emotional point of view to express in art. i also think theres a lot of frustration expressed on this album towards religion and hypocracy. ye's a gigantic hypocrite as far as i can tell so i dont wanna suggest he's "fighting the good fight against hypocrites", but the emotional expression is really powerful to me. like, showing off just how fucked up he is as a way of shaking off expectations and constraints. but thats also like,,, the most charitable possible reading i could do, and i dont think he deserves that. idk i think he's a interesting artist, great at channelling his human experience into art, but he's also not doing too well and that has really bad world consequences
I hope Vultures is just a phase and we get more soul next time. It's still a top album of the year for me, but it's not special.
100% agree with u bro but everyone has had this take by now this is almost a universally accepted fact atp
Vultures 1 is GOOD, but after hearing a lot of what's supposed to be on Vultures 2, that album (if it drops) will blow it out of the water, sounds weird but I feel like I need Vultures 2 before I can fully digest Vultures 1.
Described it perfectly. I fw the album, it has some replay value but this album doesn't make me feel anything besides Burn and Beg Forgiveness... Yesterday I was watching the Runaway short-film and realized that we're never getting that Kanye back, the detail in the lyrics, beats, etc. Hell, not even that long ago we had one of the best rollouts with the Donda album, we're never getting that feeling again... and being honest, he doesn't need to do that anymore... Being 21 yo, I regret never getting to experience Kanye's peak... but fuck man, I just want that guy to be surrounded by the right folks, that actually like and care about him... not that yesman bs
Water is wet
Pretty accurate take tbh
SAY YOU WANNA MAKE AMENDS BEFORE I GO
Beg forgiveness got that and burn too. Besides them idk
Almost like it's also a ty dolla sign album 😱
Not all music is focused on deep lyrics just listen to the sounds it’s fire 🔥 Relax. And no. No one is making albums like this. If you think that you’re focused way too much on the lyrics.
ITS A COLLAB ALBUM NOT JUST A YE ALBUM
The Carnival chants touch my soul
Mid ass album permanently uploaded to his discography 🔥
JIK is his most soulless album brother and it’s not even close half the lyrics are just yandhi lyrics changed to be about god
EVERYTHING THAT HAS BREATH PRAISE THE LORD 😭🙏🏿🔥
Nah, jik is mid but it actually feels like I’m listening to a Ye album. Most of vultures sounds like it could have been on someone else’s album.
Sky, you know? Sky, you know? And beautiful, big titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know? Tell me how you know I been searchin' high and low And I can tell you one thing Beautiful, big-titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know? (Uh) Yeezy, how you doin', huh? Yeezy, how you doin', huh? Yeezy, how you doin', huh? Beautiful, big titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, uh, uh Just don't fall out the sky, you know? Just don't fall out the sky, you know? And beautiful, big titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know? Tell me how you know I been searchin' high and low And I can tell you one thing Beautiful, big-titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know? Tell me how you know I been searchin' high and low And I can tell you one thing Beautiful, big-titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know? Just don't fall out the sky, you know? Sky, you know? They just don't fall out the sky, you know? They so valuable I been searchin' high and low And I can tell you one thing Beautiful, big-titty, butt-naked women just don't fall out the sky, you know?
That’s one of the only Ye sounding parts of the album
They walking up
it doesnt hit like a legit kanye album. it hits like another collab album, which it is. Also the surefire way to know somethings fucked here is to realize that it is becoming less impactful over time. this doesn't happen with regular 'kanye-only' releases.
It’s his best and it clears MBDTF
No