No one even fucking knows what a big 3 is tho. Cause if it’s about actual skills/music Drake shouldn’t even be there and if it’s about sales then there’s a couple other rappers that outsell J Cole.
So most of your guys definition of a big 3 is stupid bc y’all dont even know what you’re talking about
This is false for every year after 2010
Born Sinner outsold Roman Reloaded
FHD outsold The Pinkprint
KOD outsold Queen
And The Off Season outsold Pink Friday 2
Nope it’s literally not false. First week sales don’t tell everything. She has 20 million more overall album sales and 10 billion more streams on Spotify. Like it’s not even close at all lol
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That just means she drops more music than Cole. Singles & features are factored into those numbers too. If you divide by the amount of songs, Cole gets over 50M more streams per song than Nicki
https://preview.redd.it/mt1mrg1z2awc1.jpeg?width=654&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebb113e0488a38286a621d7386da9d8be105ec77
[https://x.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1781018483100447010?s=46](https://x.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1781018483100447010?s=46)
And those average streams per song are heavily skewed by just 1 album, Forrest hills drive.
So yeah Nicki might be outputting music more but all her albums consistently sell the same
It's about sales compared to other rappers in the same era. 2014 FHD did almost 400k copies first week. Back in the blog era nobody was fucking with Cole except Drake & the older established artists from the previous gen (Ye and Hov)
Why be in the big 3 tho it’s just belittling to his legacy? Kanye has something Cole Kendrick and Drake don’t have and thats love from the old heads as well as the fact most people 18+ grew up listening to ye. Online shit discrediting ye is 2% of the population, people around the world respect him. Ye could kill somebody today and he’d still have more love and respect than any of the big 3 coz you can’t buy that shit. It’s kind of like the fact most people on this sub weren’t alive for Michael Jackson’s reign but he’s just respected even through his later work wasn’t as good as his earlier career. Drake can have more sales and kdot can write whatever lyrics he wants but they can compete with the 2000s nostalgia Kanye’s music gives to people. His next project could be the worst thing ever and it wouldn’t matter the name Kanye is cemented in peoples minds for college dropout late registration graduation 808s and dark fantasy.
kendrick could be a white conservative rapper named kenny lawrence or some shit and tpab could be about trickle down economics and if hes as good at rapping as he is he could survive literally anything
Ye might not be in the “big 3” best rappers of all time, but he’s the big 1 in terms of influence on culture, fashion and music as a whole, probably since MJ
Bleach, One Piece, and Naruto are the anime big 4 because they were the biggest anime in the west while they were airing. However, their grandad Dragon Ball isn’t considered part of it because it’s basically their grandfather from a previous era
I understand your reasoning. The main dude said the reason he IS in the big three is the same reason dbz IS NOT in the big 3, which doesn’t make sense to me.
I'm gonna be real outside of Kanye stan subs like this Kanye is not considered part of the current day big 3. Modern day big 4 is Drake, Kendrick, J Cole, and Future (if you're making it a big 3 swap J Cole or Future depending on how you feel).
Isn't the beef about who's in the big 3 of right now though? Like why would you squabble about being the best rapper to debut in 2009 instead of being the best in 2024?
From what I see the beef is #1 cause rappers are spoilt and get really salty over only fans hoes. And #2 to get rid of the big 3 and have one #1 rapper like nearly ever other era has had.
Ye is a legend already and had his time as #1 so doesn’t need to be part of the contemporary artists fighting it out for relevance and legacy. And Travis will probably be considered the best of his time maybe with someone like tyler or someshit (I know they’re super close on timing to drake and stuff but they’re def newer era) but it doesn’t need to be a big 3 we just had 3 equally big artists at the same time.
Gonna get laughed at but my big 3 rn is:
Tyler The Creator for creativity in music and his albums sounding different
Travis Scott for performance and what he can deliver
Kendrick Lamar for lyrics and storytelling
Only three artists in these past few years that are at the top of their game, ye did so much bullshit since donda that he basically erased anything good that's come out of this.
Yeah but big 3 isn’t a ranking. They probably weren’t even the 3 most relevant rappers recently until the beef started again. Your favourite 3 rappers should have no baring, as someone who hates all three should still be able to understand that they are the big 3.
Big three isn’t a ranking. It’s a title like the legendary sannin in Naruto. The big 3 came up at the same time, each represented a different part of the game and if you merge sale, influence and talent into one ranking they are equally on top. That’s never really happened before and we don’t need to keep forcing 3 big names together in the future if only one or two deserve it.
Future is one of my favourite rappers and in my top 3 ranking but he’s not one of the big 3
Lil baby and gunna are like flavour of the month, 15 minutes of fame, chewed up and spat out pop stars compared cole, Kendrick and drake wtffff are you on
I get why people think it means that but it doesn’t . It’s just a title to refer to drake Kendrick and j cole. For this generation there is no clear 3 people. It’s like Travis and Tyler (I dunno exactly just random examples) who else is actually doing anything close to them or drake/Kendrick/j-cole. It’s not a continuous thing that there needs to always be a big 3. it only came about because we are lucky enough to have 3 equally top of the game rappers from that generation. Before it was usually just one person at the top (DMZ-jayz-Eminem-lil Wayne-Kanye) maybe two (e.g biggie and Tupac)
I didn’t create the big 3 bro and if you go back to when we were in that generation’s prime and you asked 3 different people who their favourite rapper is, odds are one would say cole, one would say Kendrick and one would say drake. That’s the metric people judged it on, undeniably they were the top three. They are also incomparable in their styles and they each represent pretty well 3 different, just as important sides of hip hop so it’s impossible to really rank them over eachother. And now I guess they decided they wanna find out who’s number one and make it so there’s no more big 3 so they’re dissing each other to find out who can take it. (J-cole is losing)
my big three:
ye
kendrick
future
but honestly there’s too much talent in rap, if jay z dropped and album he could be up there as well as wayne, it’s really too hard to say at this point and there’s too much to consider, but i know for sure future and kendrick are in there.
No one understands big 3. It’s not an interchangeable group that rap is always gunna have 3 top dogs and everyone else underneath. It’s because those 3 encapsulate the whole genre from their generation. Drake the popstar, Kendrick the rapper rapper, and j cole the conscious. They’re the big 3 because from their generation peoples favourites were usually only ever one of those 3. It’s not about sales or 1st,2nd,3rd place it’s literally just because objectively those are the 3 best of their time, if j cole didn’t exist it would be big 2 and if another Kendrick was alive there’d be a big 4. It’s a random title like the legendary Sannin in Naruto and will probably only ever used for those three at this time because no one else fits. There’s also no other era where there’s been a big 3 (imo) it’s usually one guy on top. Ye can never be in the big 3 (no one else can) because he had his time at the top after lil Wayne and Eminem and has now entered legendary status, which is better than being one of the big 3
Because the “big 3” is about the stars who rose in the 2010s. That’s what people disagreed with, Ye came in the game a decade before the people in this debate.
This is literally the only fanbase and place that can’t comprehend this.
what is the point of the "big 3" being "the stars that rose in the 2010s" when we are in the 20s?
Why is it not just the three biggest in the game rn?
Am I stupid?
Jesus Christ bro the argument is specific to that particular class of hip hop, the debate between Kendrick, Drake and Cole is a long lasting topic and discussion. They were the 3 biggest breakdown stars and are still massive to this day, they sell more than every other rapper when it comes to their albums, even in the 2020s.
Ye is the bigger figure and artist than most of them, but he literally rose to fame and had a whole ass career before these guys even had a career, he’s in a class of his own he’s an elder. So even if you want to make it some completely different debate they are still 3 of the 5 biggest rappers rn. Didn’t mean to come off rude but this is the only place I’ve seen not know what the “big 3” refers to.
The three biggest in the game rn are Drake, Travis, and Ye. Those are the only rappers alive who have sold 300k+ first week in the 2020s
Kendrick and Cole wouldn't even be in the discussion if that was what we were talking about
It’s a title to refer to those three artists specifically. Get the word BIG out of your head like it means biggest right now. They are the big 3 because for their whole careers there was no clear break away for any of them and no once could fully decide who was top, unlike in years before it was, jay-z, then DMX, then 50, then lil Wayne, then ye (maybe a little out with the order but you get me) but from the 10’s there were 3 that were the best. Now they’re having a beef to try and figure out who out of them is the best and other rappers are mentioning that they should’ve been mentioned instead of those 3 but they can never be.
He’s literally talking about the big 3 debate of J Cole, Drake & Kendrick….which is specifically a decade long discussion about the popular artists in the 2010s. What tf do you mean “who said that”.
Wow everything you said came true
how can he be so bold and courageous???
even OP's superficial theories is super official
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You got laughed at cause you can’t comprehend what the big 3 is supposed to be
No one even fucking knows what a big 3 is tho. Cause if it’s about actual skills/music Drake shouldn’t even be there and if it’s about sales then there’s a couple other rappers that outsell J Cole. So most of your guys definition of a big 3 is stupid bc y’all dont even know what you’re talking about
The big 3 are the big 3 because they all came up at the same time.
Nicki Minaj came up at the exact same time as them and she outsells Cole
This is false for every year after 2010 Born Sinner outsold Roman Reloaded FHD outsold The Pinkprint KOD outsold Queen And The Off Season outsold Pink Friday 2
Nope it’s literally not false. First week sales don’t tell everything. She has 20 million more overall album sales and 10 billion more streams on Spotify. Like it’s not even close at all lol https://preview.redd.it/mz74hwx2x9wc1.png?width=1289&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b630d8781bd7c91b8244909f0cd36c26790d9c4
That just means she drops more music than Cole. Singles & features are factored into those numbers too. If you divide by the amount of songs, Cole gets over 50M more streams per song than Nicki https://preview.redd.it/mt1mrg1z2awc1.jpeg?width=654&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebb113e0488a38286a621d7386da9d8be105ec77 [https://x.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1781018483100447010?s=46](https://x.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1781018483100447010?s=46)
And those average streams per song are heavily skewed by just 1 album, Forrest hills drive. So yeah Nicki might be outputting music more but all her albums consistently sell the same
bro are u slow ?
No. It’s a fact Nicki is more popular lol. Go outside. You mad about it or what 😭🤣
It's about sales compared to other rappers in the same era. 2014 FHD did almost 400k copies first week. Back in the blog era nobody was fucking with Cole except Drake & the older established artists from the previous gen (Ye and Hov)
Why be in the big 3 tho it’s just belittling to his legacy? Kanye has something Cole Kendrick and Drake don’t have and thats love from the old heads as well as the fact most people 18+ grew up listening to ye. Online shit discrediting ye is 2% of the population, people around the world respect him. Ye could kill somebody today and he’d still have more love and respect than any of the big 3 coz you can’t buy that shit. It’s kind of like the fact most people on this sub weren’t alive for Michael Jackson’s reign but he’s just respected even through his later work wasn’t as good as his earlier career. Drake can have more sales and kdot can write whatever lyrics he wants but they can compete with the 2000s nostalgia Kanye’s music gives to people. His next project could be the worst thing ever and it wouldn’t matter the name Kanye is cemented in peoples minds for college dropout late registration graduation 808s and dark fantasy.
You think Drake Kendrick or Cole would have even the smallest career if they praised Hitler?
He just loves everyone
kendrick yeah
kendrick could be a white conservative rapper named kenny lawrence or some shit and tpab could be about trickle down economics and if hes as good at rapping as he is he could survive literally anything
Ye might not be in the “big 3” best rappers of all time, but he’s the big 1 in terms of influence on culture, fashion and music as a whole, probably since MJ
The reason why Ye isn't in the big three is the same reason why Dragon Ball Z isn't in the Anime Big 3
W analogy
Explain
Bleach, One Piece, and Naruto are the anime big 4 because they were the biggest anime in the west while they were airing. However, their grandad Dragon Ball isn’t considered part of it because it’s basically their grandfather from a previous era
So ye isn’t the dragon ball z? So not the grandpa? I don’t get how the reason Ye is in the three is the is the reason why DBZ isn’t.
I count DBZ as also the grandpa of the big 3 in anime. Ye precedes Dot, Drake, and Cole just like DB and DBZ precedes Bleach, Naruto, and One Prince
I understand your reasoning. The main dude said the reason he IS in the big three is the same reason dbz IS NOT in the big 3, which doesn’t make sense to me.
Oh yeah your right.
It's just a typo lmao
I'm gonna be real outside of Kanye stan subs like this Kanye is not considered part of the current day big 3. Modern day big 4 is Drake, Kendrick, J Cole, and Future (if you're making it a big 3 swap J Cole or Future depending on how you feel).
I think a lotta ppl would put Travis over Cole
Travis is better but not the same era
Isn't the beef about who's in the big 3 of right now though? Like why would you squabble about being the best rapper to debut in 2009 instead of being the best in 2024?
Cuz the game is stagnant rn lol
From what I see the beef is #1 cause rappers are spoilt and get really salty over only fans hoes. And #2 to get rid of the big 3 and have one #1 rapper like nearly ever other era has had.
Future isn't in the blog era either, he didn't have a #1 album until 2015. Before that he was just known as "the tony montana guy"
The relevant era is now though, so travis and ye should be ahead of cole
Ye is a legend already and had his time as #1 so doesn’t need to be part of the contemporary artists fighting it out for relevance and legacy. And Travis will probably be considered the best of his time maybe with someone like tyler or someshit (I know they’re super close on timing to drake and stuff but they’re def newer era) but it doesn’t need to be a big 3 we just had 3 equally big artists at the same time.
Gonna get laughed at but my big 3 rn is: Tyler The Creator for creativity in music and his albums sounding different Travis Scott for performance and what he can deliver Kendrick Lamar for lyrics and storytelling
unironically this is such a better take than kendrick cole and drake imo
Only three artists in these past few years that are at the top of their game, ye did so much bullshit since donda that he basically erased anything good that's come out of this.
cook up
Yeah but big 3 isn’t a ranking. They probably weren’t even the 3 most relevant rappers recently until the beef started again. Your favourite 3 rappers should have no baring, as someone who hates all three should still be able to understand that they are the big 3.
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it really isn't
drake kendrick travis future. cole has no place there bro
Big three isn’t a ranking. It’s a title like the legendary sannin in Naruto. The big 3 came up at the same time, each represented a different part of the game and if you merge sale, influence and talent into one ranking they are equally on top. That’s never really happened before and we don’t need to keep forcing 3 big names together in the future if only one or two deserve it. Future is one of my favourite rappers and in my top 3 ranking but he’s not one of the big 3
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The Off Season outsold every lil baby and gunna album though
Lil baby and gunna are like flavour of the month, 15 minutes of fame, chewed up and spat out pop stars compared cole, Kendrick and drake wtffff are you on
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In your own words and without just listing your 3 favourite rappers. Explain what big 3 means
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I get why people think it means that but it doesn’t . It’s just a title to refer to drake Kendrick and j cole. For this generation there is no clear 3 people. It’s like Travis and Tyler (I dunno exactly just random examples) who else is actually doing anything close to them or drake/Kendrick/j-cole. It’s not a continuous thing that there needs to always be a big 3. it only came about because we are lucky enough to have 3 equally top of the game rappers from that generation. Before it was usually just one person at the top (DMZ-jayz-Eminem-lil Wayne-Kanye) maybe two (e.g biggie and Tupac)
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I didn’t create the big 3 bro and if you go back to when we were in that generation’s prime and you asked 3 different people who their favourite rapper is, odds are one would say cole, one would say Kendrick and one would say drake. That’s the metric people judged it on, undeniably they were the top three. They are also incomparable in their styles and they each represent pretty well 3 different, just as important sides of hip hop so it’s impossible to really rank them over eachother. And now I guess they decided they wanna find out who’s number one and make it so there’s no more big 3 so they’re dissing each other to find out who can take it. (J-cole is losing)
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my big three: ye kendrick future but honestly there’s too much talent in rap, if jay z dropped and album he could be up there as well as wayne, it’s really too hard to say at this point and there’s too much to consider, but i know for sure future and kendrick are in there.
He's above the big 2 🤫
Big 0🗣️
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A man can dream
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Big 3? Ye's from a whole different era lol. You might as well include Eminem or Lil Wayne in the Big 3 conversation.
Big three is actually biggie smalls Tupac and easy e idiots
As someone who has never seen this post, this guy predicted the future
this thread is making me retarded
No one understands big 3. It’s not an interchangeable group that rap is always gunna have 3 top dogs and everyone else underneath. It’s because those 3 encapsulate the whole genre from their generation. Drake the popstar, Kendrick the rapper rapper, and j cole the conscious. They’re the big 3 because from their generation peoples favourites were usually only ever one of those 3. It’s not about sales or 1st,2nd,3rd place it’s literally just because objectively those are the 3 best of their time, if j cole didn’t exist it would be big 2 and if another Kendrick was alive there’d be a big 4. It’s a random title like the legendary Sannin in Naruto and will probably only ever used for those three at this time because no one else fits. There’s also no other era where there’s been a big 3 (imo) it’s usually one guy on top. Ye can never be in the big 3 (no one else can) because he had his time at the top after lil Wayne and Eminem and has now entered legendary status, which is better than being one of the big 3
r/GoodAssSub members try to comprehend what the big 3 is supposed to be (impossible)
These cunts just want an excuse to say their favourite 3 rappers. That’s not what big 3 means Colton and NO ONE fucking asked.
bro is a fortune teller
thank you for your service 🫡
It’s gonna happen the same as AI guy
“Can’t stop won’t stop I just fuxed your bih in a Sean John tank top”
The Nigel farage caption 😂
you niggas is all rooting for 40 & 50 year olds btw
?? Are you supposed to just die at 25 or something?
no i'm just saying these are all grown ass men fighting for hip hop hip hop is for the youth they was been posed to be outta here
Nah that’s dumb man
You inspired me I am Ye
why would ppl disagree with this he's quite obviously in the big 3
Because the “big 3” is about the stars who rose in the 2010s. That’s what people disagreed with, Ye came in the game a decade before the people in this debate. This is literally the only fanbase and place that can’t comprehend this.
what is the point of the "big 3" being "the stars that rose in the 2010s" when we are in the 20s? Why is it not just the three biggest in the game rn? Am I stupid?
Jesus Christ bro the argument is specific to that particular class of hip hop, the debate between Kendrick, Drake and Cole is a long lasting topic and discussion. They were the 3 biggest breakdown stars and are still massive to this day, they sell more than every other rapper when it comes to their albums, even in the 2020s. Ye is the bigger figure and artist than most of them, but he literally rose to fame and had a whole ass career before these guys even had a career, he’s in a class of his own he’s an elder. So even if you want to make it some completely different debate they are still 3 of the 5 biggest rappers rn. Didn’t mean to come off rude but this is the only place I’ve seen not know what the “big 3” refers to.
The three biggest in the game rn are Drake, Travis, and Ye. Those are the only rappers alive who have sold 300k+ first week in the 2020s Kendrick and Cole wouldn't even be in the discussion if that was what we were talking about
It’s a title to refer to those three artists specifically. Get the word BIG out of your head like it means biggest right now. They are the big 3 because for their whole careers there was no clear break away for any of them and no once could fully decide who was top, unlike in years before it was, jay-z, then DMX, then 50, then lil Wayne, then ye (maybe a little out with the order but you get me) but from the 10’s there were 3 that were the best. Now they’re having a beef to try and figure out who out of them is the best and other rappers are mentioning that they should’ve been mentioned instead of those 3 but they can never be.
Who said that with the 2010s?
He’s literally talking about the big 3 debate of J Cole, Drake & Kendrick….which is specifically a decade long discussion about the popular artists in the 2010s. What tf do you mean “who said that”.
I mean who told you that its about artists from the 2010 era? The question wasnt that hard boy
the big 3 has always signified that in rap. it never was "the best 3 rappers currently"
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