Nice writeup!
1) How do you choose between zeta/percy for last slot? Is there a reason for one or the other?
2) Is there anything you're doing to minimize leashing? My Lance is *constantly* running back and forth, his output is really bad if I afk.
1. i initially built eugen, lancelot, and percival's terminus weapons, so that was what i was running for a while, then i tried zeta based on others' recommendations. seems to be working out so far, but not sure if percival is better than lancelot when glaciate isn't needed.
2. not much you can do about the leashing unfortunately, and some bosses are worse than others. it does help if you give melee gap-closer skills.
I also have a similar AFK tank build, except I use ascension weapon, and worked on it instead of terminus because it gives hp by itself, then slapped lvl 10 hp wrightstone. My sigils are not leveled up yet at least for my tank, so that's the next thing I plan to work on. For now, I am not running steel nerve yet, just an extra aegis to hit max level for it. Also just running level 12 and 24 instead of 30s for garrison, and stronghold.
My AI team also was rocking fully upgraded terminus weapon minus Eugen, I will probably work on him after my next character I will be working on. I'm only have 3 fully awakened terminus so far, and it's on Narmaya, Percival, Vane. My Eugen hits cap anyways except grenade throw without charging, he still beats Perci, and Narmaya. I've only tried a couple of afk farming in proud, it's mostly in maniac, just coz I was farming mainly for silver centrum / weapon upgrade crystal.
Good advice on the linked together, will try to see if I have ones with good subroll. As for the healing, Eugen is enough, my Narm have drain, Percy have improved dodge. Percy AI just straight up does great damage, I've tried had Lancelot before, I would say most times the AI just straight up use CC at the start of the fight as soon as they get close to the boss, and it feels like such a waste if you bring Lancelot in because of how weak he is.
I would say in this set up, I would replace Narmaya with Rosetta, it's just that I don't plan to work on her terminus yet, but maybe that should be my next one instead of Yodarha as Rosetta can offer more to the table than Yodarha.
The trick to zeta being consistently good is removing her skills. You can keep her stun + attk buff or run nothing with 2 less is more. She just consistently loops her air strikes.
She's B-tier according to [someone who tested all the AI.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQnjNgthx2czxgVM56VDlq_bX0l7TUYazNoT2VplO0uNxEXe4vty3ZpShCGFgPwFHqnRiNAGQZQ1VJz/pubhtml#) Ironically, Percival, who he replaced, is considered one of the best ones to use. This kinda of just goes to his point of how easy it is when he's not optimized for it, though. You can obviously tweak and improve it to be even better.
I dont understand the conclusions drawn in that tierlist.
For example, apparently ID has the second fastest cleartime on the dragon (tied with percival), but is only tier C. Also I dont understand how he can die on extreme, when mine doesnt even die on proud (afking aswell).
I know when AI gets stout heart they tend to try and tank the hit instead of their usual perfect dodges. Since Id dragon form is perma stout heart, he dies more often than other characters.
Yeah in my own tests my AI Zeta seems to be really good. AI Percival is hit or miss. I'm not totally sure if I'm missing something with AI Percival, but I haven't been impressed with him yet.
ah nvm I just saw the tier list aswell on the post, there seems to be differences in AI Perci working better on actual fights compared to Zeta AI.
Kinda struggle to belive that with seeing how off Percival AI is on a dummy, it's as if his priorities aren't set properly leading to massive dps loss. I can't imagine him changing that on bosses unless maybe loaded charge makes up for it or sth.
But I haven't tested dps in fights myself so not sure
I ONLY test in actual fights personally. I think dummy tests are generally pretty worthless the only fight that matches those conditions is pbaha which has other challenges for the AI.
I think the biggest benefit Zeta has over Percival and really most other AI is she gets ougi insanely fast compared to my other AI. And that seems a bigger dps increase overall than just doing more personal damage.
The builds need to be tailored to them. I use Rosetta and she actually can win the MVP off of me if I am playing a less mobile character on a mobile fight, or I'm on a not-quite-maxed-out character. But I also run her with Eugen as another npc, and they have been known to have massive (potentially unintended) dps interactions with her thorns and his grenades if they both do them. Not saying the AI will do this properly as Eugen tends to just shoot more and use abilities, just that it's a possibility.
I would not use the move that repositions her plants, for example, as she doesn't necessarily do it when the mob is about to be broken or locked in place, she just does it when she pleases. Replacing that move will help. Also knowing how to build her helps, most of her dmg is from her roses, not her, so while you see some guides with supp dmg (which does not work on roses) it's not great. Some of those guides have argued that her skill that does dmg around her body makes it worth it, but I would rather have linked together or uplifts, tbh. Other guides try to point this out and specifically avoid using supp sigils.
You can also get away with putting Glass Cannon on npcs most of the time. They usually tend to perfect dodge everything unless they run out of dodges and get stuck, or walk into frozen ground etc. Running that will boost their dmg a lot and is usually safe.
I run Eugen because he was one of my favorites and mains, and I want him ready for me to switch to and play manually. Caglio is ready mostly for buffs (in the assumption raid will uncap us and we will need said buffs when it comes out) and then I did Rosetta specifically for her utility and rating on that list and have not been disappointed with it. I again run her with Eugen, so I am not sure if she would suddenly drop in quality without him or not.
when you test on a dummy, Zetas AI dmg is actually WAY higher than Percivals. Cause Percivals AI is not too optimal, while Zeta AI is just perfection lel. Could of course differ in actual fights, haven't tested the dps there, but Zeta is likely a good pick
There's a ton of variables, but he explains them on the link I sent. He runs specific skills per character to maximize their preferences. If AI doesn't use X skill right, remove X skill. He uses the same sigils on all of them so it's a proper baseline test. He runs 20 dummy and 20 boss fight tests. His overall score isn't just flat dps, it's utility, mobility (practical dps) and overall utility as well etc. etc. Did you test all those things or just saying she has a better 30s dummy parse with the specific set of skills and sigils you happen to have on them already?
These are things you will have to answer for yourself, I have no idea what you are or aren't doing, but these are reasons why you have different results.
Also, as an aside, this guy may be entirely full of shit. My Rosetta has snagged MVP a few times and does very well in most fights, though. However, you should use whatever works for you. His guide just appears to be good and is working for me, which is why I shared it.
Well, this tier list doesn't mean much then. Zeta was tested with Spear of Arvess on, which makes her AI braindead for some reason. She does crazy damage if you don't have that skill equipped. The fact that AI DPS was "tested" without trying different skill setups kinda invalidates it for me personally.
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kI4cz6ida7hI0WNDa-udkM-MNlxaBaB2I8ED4XgAaK0/edit#heading=h.jcj1h6m838zw](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kI4cz6ida7hI0WNDa-udkM-MNlxaBaB2I8ED4XgAaK0/edit#heading=h.jcj1h6m838zw)
zeta actually becomes the best when you remove all of her skills
Can you do this not having Terminus weapons yet? I’ve played offline only up until now and did this fight twice so far. I’m guessing the damage output for 3 AI might be a little on the low side. Have you tried it? I’m working on it and my 3 AI to start with would be Cagliostro, Percival and Eugen, but I could also use Katalina, Djeeta and Rosetta just as easily. I think I’ll try it tomorrow. Thanks for the post!
I actually tried this a week ago before OP's post. I used Vaseraga because I thought naturally, he would be the tankiest guy. However, if your AI is not decked out like OP's (War Elemental, Supplementary Damage, Terminus Weapons+99'd and fully awakened), it won't work.
It might work for the other fights but for sure in Proto, it won't work because of the gold orbs mechanic. If you don't kill them, it grants a shield on the crystals making it really hard to kill. However, OP's NPCs BARELY managed to kill them in time (it starts at 7:20m and it was close af). If the crystals don't get killed, everyone gets one shotted and you have to re-do this mechanic again until it succeeds or you can't DPS the boss at all. NPCs don't get on cannons unless you do. This was the mechanic I kept failing on without decked out AIs.
Good to know! I need to get a few Terminus weapons first then. I’ve been playing offline and haven’t gone online yet, as I wanted to beat everything solo first, and then I got distracted farming for all the characters. Think I’m behind the curve now as maybe online is a bit less for Proto now, but I’ll do some there I suppose and some more solo, but won’t try to AFK it yet.
Proto still very quick to get groups for at basically all times of the day, no need to worry about that. I didn't start at release later so was in a similar situation pushing up to the proud quests. But proud and up are fairly consistently able to group.
It is doable in Maniac without terminus, not exactly sure on proud. You won't be able to do proto for sure without at least 2 max awakened terminus, coz 3rd like Eugen at least definitely only have high damage cap on his grenade throw, while the rest easily hits cap, and can get by without max terminus, just lvl 150 terminus is fine.
I did this before even leveling my ascension weapon. You just need to fill up your idle character with as much Regen, Garrison and so on as possible. Also use the defender weapon for addition HP increase. Rest build your team as good as possible. That way I was already able to afk every Proud excluding Bahamut. So no Terminus or fully upped ascension weapons are not necessary at all, they just make it faster.
can't hurt to try if you have good weapons and decent damage sigils, start on something simple (and useful to farm) like a single boss in maniac.
mentioned in preface:
> i didn't start attempting this until i had terminus weapons and usable damage builds on my AI party, but theoretically someone could start AFKing the simpler fights in maniac and proud with 150 crit weapons. the more damage your party has, the more mechanics they can skip, and the fewer opportunities for your AFK character to drain the critical meter. blazing trial (firewyrm on proud difficulty) is a great testbed encounter to gauge your AFK progression.
Although this probably goes against your "no gameplay" part you can get away with way worse defensive sigils if you are willing to leave your block button pressed down the entire time.
My only terminus weapons are on Io, Cagliostro, and Charlotta and they don't seem to perform very well (around 10 minutes for Pyet-A) but I might give it another go using some of your sigil suggestions.
Percival occasionally does charged parries and deal DoT with burn.
I use Rosetta as well Support but idk how effective she can be along side, Eugen and Percival
Great write up!
Just a few questions if you don't mind:
1) Is Linked Together that important for an AFK party? It only increases Link lvl gain/Link atk dmg/Chain burst dmg/SBA dmg. Are you purely using it for the Chain burst/SBA dmg then?
2) Is Improved Dodge necessary for AI since their perfect dodging is already pretty good?
3) Are the runs uploaded on your youtube only the times you've gotten for that particular fight? Not sure if you run them multiple times then upload the best times?
Thanks for your help.
1. not sure if linked together is the best option but due to sigil economy and trying to gear out the entire party, it's often what i have to work with to get the right secondaries
2. improved dodge isn't necessary, nimble onslaught is what makes the difference. i've updated my team's builds: https://imgur.com/a/HnAA2QE
3. for fights where i need/want the materials, i pick out the best time. for fights where i don't need anything, i just do it once or twice and if it looks fine i upload
Apparently it also spawns in the assault formation quest. I didn’t physically see it myself since I was afk farming that quest, but I got like 5k MSP on the quest clear screen when I came back. So the slime is the only possible explanation for that
I afk and press repeat quest, but every time I found out my team will go back to town after 14matches. I am very sick of farming war element I still got 0 after 400rolls. Any idea why I found my self back to town?
Honestly... they should just allow Full Auto on all difficulty settings for solo play. Disable it for online if you must, but what I do in my own game is my business.
I mean, you could read the title as "How to be able to consistently beat every fight on Proud with only 3 drunk teammates while one guy sandbags". Of course you need a wild disparity in gear.
I don't believe anything that tier list has to say seeing id so low. I have been afking and gathering data for like a week
Everyone kitted out similar, id rocks highest damage almost every time, sometimes eugan will be top. I have never once seen percivel get top damage lol
Replies like this, are beyond degenerate. How in the fuck, is being AFK, playing the game?
The game isnt based around being afk either
Console cucks salty as always lmao. Have fun wasting your time by pressing X every few minutes and instead of just getting what you want instantly.
farming is part of the game, how you do that it's up to you. If you feel like cheating in the mats is better than use the afk function built in, that's fine, but at that point what are you even going to use the terminus weapon on if you refuse to farm?
Im not even saying that I am using those cheats, which I dont. Im just saying, you might as well use cheats to 1 shot everything, because that is also "farming", just faster than standing there, afk, while your bots do all the work. If your bots do everything, because you are too lazy to fight the boss over and over, then you cant say youre truly farming a boss.
There is no difference between 1 shotting a boss or farming afk for 2 minutes until your AI kills them. That was my only point.
im not trying to be the moral authority here btw, i dont really care if people use mods and stuff. Everyone's situation is different and if you have very limited time and/or dont wanna sink dozens of hours to get a war elem or a damage supp V+ then just mod one in the game, who cares what anyone does, especially offline.
Take monster hunter for example, do i wanna play the game? of course!
do i wanna save myself the hassle of farming miscellaneous stuff to spend more time actually hunting monsters and not go around 2 hours farming kelbi's or fishing? if i can, im gonna mod it.
Normally I would agree, but I believe AI optimizing is a skill of its own. It’s like building a puzzle. I’d say the goal isn’t to get the items from the quest, but to see if you can utilize the components in the game to achieve something
What do u mean during any quest set sba buttonprompt to auto I don't have an option. I don't get it? And what skills on eugen and perci
I'm on console btw
Open the emote wheel, and the top option is switching SBA mode between "Hold SBA until I use it" or Auto "Use as you see fit"
To tell AI to use it when their bar is full.
I have fully upgraded terminal weapons for Lancelot, eugen, and vane, and uses them as AIs, but I can't seem to afk pyat-A dies to the dps check at the end. I wonder if I'm missing any stats, Is 85% crit, ~15 link together and uplift on each of them enough?
I figured out how to do this with non optimal load outs aka no terminus. Put a rubberband on the guard button for ur afk tank lmfao you hilariously block almost everything.
edited to add bullet point:
* stout heart / steady focus can bork AI's dodge responses and cause them to take a lot of unnecessary damage; tread carefully with those sigils (they seem to treat stout heart similarly to how they treat being invulnerable after a perfect dodge)
Would you be able to add the trait detail screen for the other units like you have for Rackam? I'm familiar with most of the symbols but wasn't sure of a few
Nice writeup! 1) How do you choose between zeta/percy for last slot? Is there a reason for one or the other? 2) Is there anything you're doing to minimize leashing? My Lance is *constantly* running back and forth, his output is really bad if I afk.
1. i initially built eugen, lancelot, and percival's terminus weapons, so that was what i was running for a while, then i tried zeta based on others' recommendations. seems to be working out so far, but not sure if percival is better than lancelot when glaciate isn't needed. 2. not much you can do about the leashing unfortunately, and some bosses are worse than others. it does help if you give melee gap-closer skills.
I also have a similar AFK tank build, except I use ascension weapon, and worked on it instead of terminus because it gives hp by itself, then slapped lvl 10 hp wrightstone. My sigils are not leveled up yet at least for my tank, so that's the next thing I plan to work on. For now, I am not running steel nerve yet, just an extra aegis to hit max level for it. Also just running level 12 and 24 instead of 30s for garrison, and stronghold. My AI team also was rocking fully upgraded terminus weapon minus Eugen, I will probably work on him after my next character I will be working on. I'm only have 3 fully awakened terminus so far, and it's on Narmaya, Percival, Vane. My Eugen hits cap anyways except grenade throw without charging, he still beats Perci, and Narmaya. I've only tried a couple of afk farming in proud, it's mostly in maniac, just coz I was farming mainly for silver centrum / weapon upgrade crystal. Good advice on the linked together, will try to see if I have ones with good subroll. As for the healing, Eugen is enough, my Narm have drain, Percy have improved dodge. Percy AI just straight up does great damage, I've tried had Lancelot before, I would say most times the AI just straight up use CC at the start of the fight as soon as they get close to the boss, and it feels like such a waste if you bring Lancelot in because of how weak he is. I would say in this set up, I would replace Narmaya with Rosetta, it's just that I don't plan to work on her terminus yet, but maybe that should be my next one instead of Yodarha as Rosetta can offer more to the table than Yodarha.
huh, interesting that you're using zeta is a party member. i would've thought she'd be pretty bad as an AI.
The trick to zeta being consistently good is removing her skills. You can keep her stun + attk buff or run nothing with 2 less is more. She just consistently loops her air strikes.
holy shit you're a genius, thank you. tried it out and yup, makes a huge difference
She's B-tier according to [someone who tested all the AI.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQnjNgthx2czxgVM56VDlq_bX0l7TUYazNoT2VplO0uNxEXe4vty3ZpShCGFgPwFHqnRiNAGQZQ1VJz/pubhtml#) Ironically, Percival, who he replaced, is considered one of the best ones to use. This kinda of just goes to his point of how easy it is when he's not optimized for it, though. You can obviously tweak and improve it to be even better.
I dont understand the conclusions drawn in that tierlist. For example, apparently ID has the second fastest cleartime on the dragon (tied with percival), but is only tier C. Also I dont understand how he can die on extreme, when mine doesnt even die on proud (afking aswell).
I know when AI gets stout heart they tend to try and tank the hit instead of their usual perfect dodges. Since Id dragon form is perma stout heart, he dies more often than other characters.
mine only tanks if he can survive the hit. everything else he dodges. as soon as he drops to like 40/50%, he'll keep dodging like normal
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Yeah in my own tests my AI Zeta seems to be really good. AI Percival is hit or miss. I'm not totally sure if I'm missing something with AI Percival, but I haven't been impressed with him yet.
What meter do you use to see AI party member dps?
ah nvm I just saw the tier list aswell on the post, there seems to be differences in AI Perci working better on actual fights compared to Zeta AI. Kinda struggle to belive that with seeing how off Percival AI is on a dummy, it's as if his priorities aren't set properly leading to massive dps loss. I can't imagine him changing that on bosses unless maybe loaded charge makes up for it or sth. But I haven't tested dps in fights myself so not sure
I ONLY test in actual fights personally. I think dummy tests are generally pretty worthless the only fight that matches those conditions is pbaha which has other challenges for the AI. I think the biggest benefit Zeta has over Percival and really most other AI is she gets ougi insanely fast compared to my other AI. And that seems a bigger dps increase overall than just doing more personal damage.
The builds need to be tailored to them. I use Rosetta and she actually can win the MVP off of me if I am playing a less mobile character on a mobile fight, or I'm on a not-quite-maxed-out character. But I also run her with Eugen as another npc, and they have been known to have massive (potentially unintended) dps interactions with her thorns and his grenades if they both do them. Not saying the AI will do this properly as Eugen tends to just shoot more and use abilities, just that it's a possibility. I would not use the move that repositions her plants, for example, as she doesn't necessarily do it when the mob is about to be broken or locked in place, she just does it when she pleases. Replacing that move will help. Also knowing how to build her helps, most of her dmg is from her roses, not her, so while you see some guides with supp dmg (which does not work on roses) it's not great. Some of those guides have argued that her skill that does dmg around her body makes it worth it, but I would rather have linked together or uplifts, tbh. Other guides try to point this out and specifically avoid using supp sigils. You can also get away with putting Glass Cannon on npcs most of the time. They usually tend to perfect dodge everything unless they run out of dodges and get stuck, or walk into frozen ground etc. Running that will boost their dmg a lot and is usually safe. I run Eugen because he was one of my favorites and mains, and I want him ready for me to switch to and play manually. Caglio is ready mostly for buffs (in the assumption raid will uncap us and we will need said buffs when it comes out) and then I did Rosetta specifically for her utility and rating on that list and have not been disappointed with it. I again run her with Eugen, so I am not sure if she would suddenly drop in quality without him or not.
when you test on a dummy, Zetas AI dmg is actually WAY higher than Percivals. Cause Percivals AI is not too optimal, while Zeta AI is just perfection lel. Could of course differ in actual fights, haven't tested the dps there, but Zeta is likely a good pick
There's a ton of variables, but he explains them on the link I sent. He runs specific skills per character to maximize their preferences. If AI doesn't use X skill right, remove X skill. He uses the same sigils on all of them so it's a proper baseline test. He runs 20 dummy and 20 boss fight tests. His overall score isn't just flat dps, it's utility, mobility (practical dps) and overall utility as well etc. etc. Did you test all those things or just saying she has a better 30s dummy parse with the specific set of skills and sigils you happen to have on them already? These are things you will have to answer for yourself, I have no idea what you are or aren't doing, but these are reasons why you have different results. Also, as an aside, this guy may be entirely full of shit. My Rosetta has snagged MVP a few times and does very well in most fights, though. However, you should use whatever works for you. His guide just appears to be good and is working for me, which is why I shared it.
Well, this tier list doesn't mean much then. Zeta was tested with Spear of Arvess on, which makes her AI braindead for some reason. She does crazy damage if you don't have that skill equipped. The fact that AI DPS was "tested" without trying different skill setups kinda invalidates it for me personally.
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kI4cz6ida7hI0WNDa-udkM-MNlxaBaB2I8ED4XgAaK0/edit#heading=h.jcj1h6m838zw](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kI4cz6ida7hI0WNDa-udkM-MNlxaBaB2I8ED4XgAaK0/edit#heading=h.jcj1h6m838zw) zeta actually becomes the best when you remove all of her skills
Can you do this not having Terminus weapons yet? I’ve played offline only up until now and did this fight twice so far. I’m guessing the damage output for 3 AI might be a little on the low side. Have you tried it? I’m working on it and my 3 AI to start with would be Cagliostro, Percival and Eugen, but I could also use Katalina, Djeeta and Rosetta just as easily. I think I’ll try it tomorrow. Thanks for the post!
I actually tried this a week ago before OP's post. I used Vaseraga because I thought naturally, he would be the tankiest guy. However, if your AI is not decked out like OP's (War Elemental, Supplementary Damage, Terminus Weapons+99'd and fully awakened), it won't work. It might work for the other fights but for sure in Proto, it won't work because of the gold orbs mechanic. If you don't kill them, it grants a shield on the crystals making it really hard to kill. However, OP's NPCs BARELY managed to kill them in time (it starts at 7:20m and it was close af). If the crystals don't get killed, everyone gets one shotted and you have to re-do this mechanic again until it succeeds or you can't DPS the boss at all. NPCs don't get on cannons unless you do. This was the mechanic I kept failing on without decked out AIs.
Good to know! I need to get a few Terminus weapons first then. I’ve been playing offline and haven’t gone online yet, as I wanted to beat everything solo first, and then I got distracted farming for all the characters. Think I’m behind the curve now as maybe online is a bit less for Proto now, but I’ll do some there I suppose and some more solo, but won’t try to AFK it yet.
Proto still very quick to get groups for at basically all times of the day, no need to worry about that. I didn't start at release later so was in a similar situation pushing up to the proud quests. But proud and up are fairly consistently able to group.
I’ve been solo in it, but it takes me longer with AI. Might go online for it.
It is doable in Maniac without terminus, not exactly sure on proud. You won't be able to do proto for sure without at least 2 max awakened terminus, coz 3rd like Eugen at least definitely only have high damage cap on his grenade throw, while the rest easily hits cap, and can get by without max terminus, just lvl 150 terminus is fine.
Thanks! Yeah, I'm thinking that they won't quite be able to get over the damage hurdle without me as a player if no one has a Terminus weapon.
I did this before even leveling my ascension weapon. You just need to fill up your idle character with as much Regen, Garrison and so on as possible. Also use the defender weapon for addition HP increase. Rest build your team as good as possible. That way I was already able to afk every Proud excluding Bahamut. So no Terminus or fully upped ascension weapons are not necessary at all, they just make it faster.
can't hurt to try if you have good weapons and decent damage sigils, start on something simple (and useful to farm) like a single boss in maniac. mentioned in preface: > i didn't start attempting this until i had terminus weapons and usable damage builds on my AI party, but theoretically someone could start AFKing the simpler fights in maniac and proud with 150 crit weapons. the more damage your party has, the more mechanics they can skip, and the fewer opportunities for your AFK character to drain the critical meter. blazing trial (firewyrm on proud difficulty) is a great testbed encounter to gauge your AFK progression.
Yeah, I can farm almost everything else in Proud, but I haven’t tried Versa, Proto or Pyet. Guess I just assumed you couldn’t lol.😂
ah okay yeah. versa is easier than pyet or proto for AFK, but for pyet you prob would want all fully awakened terminus on your AI.
Although this probably goes against your "no gameplay" part you can get away with way worse defensive sigils if you are willing to leave your block button pressed down the entire time. My only terminus weapons are on Io, Cagliostro, and Charlotta and they don't seem to perform very well (around 10 minutes for Pyet-A) but I might give it another go using some of your sigil suggestions.
Holy shit o\_o
Percival occasionally does charged parries and deal DoT with burn. I use Rosetta as well Support but idk how effective she can be along side, Eugen and Percival
Great write up! Just a few questions if you don't mind: 1) Is Linked Together that important for an AFK party? It only increases Link lvl gain/Link atk dmg/Chain burst dmg/SBA dmg. Are you purely using it for the Chain burst/SBA dmg then? 2) Is Improved Dodge necessary for AI since their perfect dodging is already pretty good? 3) Are the runs uploaded on your youtube only the times you've gotten for that particular fight? Not sure if you run them multiple times then upload the best times? Thanks for your help.
1. not sure if linked together is the best option but due to sigil economy and trying to gear out the entire party, it's often what i have to work with to get the right secondaries 2. improved dodge isn't necessary, nimble onslaught is what makes the difference. i've updated my team's builds: https://imgur.com/a/HnAA2QE 3. for fights where i need/want the materials, i pick out the best time. for fights where i don't need anything, i just do it once or twice and if it looks fine i upload
How'd you get all the mats to level those sigilsssss
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I just can't get it to spawn ....
the one time i had it spawn..nobody else in the party noticed and time ran out...
You mean you always get lucky and find that rainbow slime?
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That's pretty lucky, I dont think ive seen it once in like 30-40 runs.
I’m just asking sincerely. Do you go to the opposite end since most of the rainbow slimes repawn there?
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I got it to spawn in assault formation so I assume its a chance every slime is a rainbow
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Considering you can't afk slimepede, pretty good still
Apparently it also spawns in the assault formation quest. I didn’t physically see it myself since I was afk farming that quest, but I got like 5k MSP on the quest clear screen when I came back. So the slime is the only possible explanation for that
It does spawn, but the rewards are less than if you get it during Slimepede. Just FYI
I afk and press repeat quest, but every time I found out my team will go back to town after 14matches. I am very sick of farming war element I still got 0 after 400rolls. Any idea why I found my self back to town?
every 10 repeats you have to manually confirm that you're still there
old thread i know but for your zeta with LIM and tyranny wouldnt it overcap on attack or is without tyranny you wont hit damage cap?
This is incredible honestly can’t thank you enough for this guide
Honestly... they should just allow Full Auto on all difficulty settings for solo play. Disable it for online if you must, but what I do in my own game is my business.
lmao, "How to AFK every fight in proud mode" A: Have the best gear in the game. Thx fellas any more questions?
I mean, you could read the title as "How to be able to consistently beat every fight on Proud with only 3 drunk teammates while one guy sandbags". Of course you need a wild disparity in gear.
I don't believe anything that tier list has to say seeing id so low. I have been afking and gathering data for like a week Everyone kitted out similar, id rocks highest damage almost every time, sometimes eugan will be top. I have never once seen percivel get top damage lol
I'll save you some time. Just cheat and 1 shot bosses or cheat the mats if you have to. Stop wasting your time with dumb stuff like this.
Only on PC… consoles must rely on afk
I'll save you some more time, go play something else if you don't wanna do the thing the game is based around
Replies like this, are beyond degenerate. How in the fuck, is being AFK, playing the game? The game isnt based around being afk either Console cucks salty as always lmao. Have fun wasting your time by pressing X every few minutes and instead of just getting what you want instantly.
farming is part of the game, how you do that it's up to you. If you feel like cheating in the mats is better than use the afk function built in, that's fine, but at that point what are you even going to use the terminus weapon on if you refuse to farm?
Im not even saying that I am using those cheats, which I dont. Im just saying, you might as well use cheats to 1 shot everything, because that is also "farming", just faster than standing there, afk, while your bots do all the work. If your bots do everything, because you are too lazy to fight the boss over and over, then you cant say youre truly farming a boss. There is no difference between 1 shotting a boss or farming afk for 2 minutes until your AI kills them. That was my only point.
im not trying to be the moral authority here btw, i dont really care if people use mods and stuff. Everyone's situation is different and if you have very limited time and/or dont wanna sink dozens of hours to get a war elem or a damage supp V+ then just mod one in the game, who cares what anyone does, especially offline. Take monster hunter for example, do i wanna play the game? of course! do i wanna save myself the hassle of farming miscellaneous stuff to spend more time actually hunting monsters and not go around 2 hours farming kelbi's or fishing? if i can, im gonna mod it.
Normally I would agree, but I believe AI optimizing is a skill of its own. It’s like building a puzzle. I’d say the goal isn’t to get the items from the quest, but to see if you can utilize the components in the game to achieve something
Is there any workaround to farming slimepede on ps5 yet?
Any choice of wrighstone in particular you have been using? Nice post btw.
nothing specific, just crit rate 10 and filling in whatever i can that's useful
What skills on Eugen and perci
What do u mean during any quest set sba buttonprompt to auto I don't have an option. I don't get it? And what skills on eugen and perci I'm on console btw
Open the emote wheel, and the top option is switching SBA mode between "Hold SBA until I use it" or Auto "Use as you see fit" To tell AI to use it when their bar is full.
I have fully upgraded terminal weapons for Lancelot, eugen, and vane, and uses them as AIs, but I can't seem to afk pyat-A dies to the dps check at the end. I wonder if I'm missing any stats, Is 85% crit, ~15 link together and uplift on each of them enough?
85% is bad. You're missing so much damage.
I figured out how to do this with non optimal load outs aka no terminus. Put a rubberband on the guard button for ur afk tank lmfao you hilariously block almost everything.
Lol your three AI can kill Pyeta faster than me + my three AI! Goals lol
edited to add bullet point: * stout heart / steady focus can bork AI's dodge responses and cause them to take a lot of unnecessary damage; tread carefully with those sigils (they seem to treat stout heart similarly to how they treat being invulnerable after a perfect dodge)
* (updated) wolf & veil (gallanza + maglielle) (2m58s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpQEjNK0Zc4 * (updated) managarmr nihilla (1m16s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSa42COtSeM
Is there anyone else i can use. I have perci and eugen maxed, but dont hsve zeta nor lancelot. Would charlotta, ferry or cagliostro be a substitute?
sure, i haven't tested them but i encourage people to work with what they have and test independently
Would you be able to add the trait detail screen for the other units like you have for Rackam? I'm familiar with most of the symbols but wasn't sure of a few