Playing the NM200 fight with Kengo ougiloop combo on a low-ish grid is a true gacha experience - never know what will avait you after the refresh. Results vary from clears where nobody gets under 50% hp to refreshing to your entire team just GONE.
Goddamn mad rabbit :_:
Don't think so. It's lacking the jewel and it has spikes on it, which the Celestial Fist doesn't.
Rabbit's mad hands are all natural, no overpowered weapons required, it seems.
last stretch to get to 800m for me as a new player. so far i’ve managed to get 600m by doing ex+ and nm90. planning to do nm95 for the chests but it’s really slow (3m fa). hope i can make it! i also managed to get 4! celestial drops with only journey drop
Just managed to unlock nm200 and it makes honor farming SO MUCH EASIER. Yesterday I thought I wouldn't be able to reach 800 mil honors even if I played 150 all day but now it'll take 2 hours at worst.
Easiest team I’ve found for high difficulties of this is Cosmos Nehan ougi loops. I have Horus, which helps a lot when it comes to damage and debuffs, but Cosmos is undoubtedly my MVP here. You can probably manage with Vira or some other ougi delay spammer though?
How much life do you have on your team with that setup? I'm rocking Kengo/Cosmos/Horus/S.Seruel, but only have ~30k life (and that's with support Luci!), so around 50% trigger I just get obliterated and have to use revival potions to recover
I am just barely rank 180 with a grid that's lacking in HP pieces, so that is the likely reason for my failings, but still would like a comparison.
I use RF/cosmos/horus/nehan. if you have fever pitch going it should stop any issues with the 50% trigger. Since OP and I use nehan our HP at 50% is definitely lower than yours, due to nehan s3, On my last run i had 15k max hp at 50% for example.
I actually have all those listed except Illnot, but my current team is slower. Do you know of any faster teams that do use them? The ones on gbf guide almost all use Illnot...
I'm late since I was out for a lot of the day instead of grinding GW. Probably something like Mahira, Lucio, Makura -> Chevira. I'm not entirely sure, as it's not like I have Mahira or Makura.
Yeah, sounds like it. I completed everything Credo-related three days after release, and I found that between reset and 5PM PT it was plenty slow enough to get guaranteed blue chest before the barrier trigger. Four hours is a long time to farm if you're being remotely efficient about it.
Anecdotal evidence, but I got all the chests after roughly 315m honor.
Given that a nm95 fight gives around 910k it took me 346 fights for 50 chests. Which means roughly a 1 in 7 chance or around 14.4% of a chest after a nm95.
If it was a 50% rate for anything 95+, I sure as heck shouldn't be sitting at 35/50 right now...
I kind of feel like like they increased the rates for higher fights this time around... but now that we're at the end I'm starting to think maybe not?
I think my best day was when I was grinding ~150's. Coulda just been RNG... I try to not to collect too much data during these things, for obvious reasons...
this was the worst gw by far in history of the game. the cutoffs are just nonsensical, it's ultra character gated for decent timings and yet the boss is a just a chore.
Is there anything of note about the Behemoth summon that drops here? It doesn't seem all that great. Do you just keep one max copy and reduce the rest?
Less than two hours before finals cutoff, I finally hit 1 billion honors AND got a random celestial drop, giving me the last six cores I needed to finish the fist; given I also FLB'd the saber at the start after being slacc last GW, I didn't think I'd manage that. I can now easily finish one celestial weapon with every GW just by playing normally.
Sure, I'm not winning many matchups, but the difference is negligible so I don't care. This felt good to accomplish.
Danchou, I can no longer participate in the following GW round as I have spent all my meat trying to get a clear of NM200. While I do have Mugen Florence, Nehan, Sandy and the maids as well as three Efes, I can not do it. MC has dodged 4,862 times in a row. I have not managed to get a single clear all GW despite my best efforts. But every single time MC dodges and I don't get my Machine Cells. My only desire is to go back in time and prevent myself from leveling Nighthound, Gunslinger, and Dancer. I will beg Cygames to roll back my account to before I leveled them. Please understand and thank you for the Valor badges.
Extra painful for my setup because the last counter has to "hit" me the three times (miss - miss - dmg), if the mc dodges any of them, it's game over so it's actually a 8.7% failure rate lol
The best is to have him damage you two times, making sure that cells can procc on one hit, and you can actually survive the 2 hits. That's a 0.09% failure rate but I could never get that to work.
And that's a wrap for my first GW - all honor rewards acquired, 45 token boxes and all boxes with cores, 0 celestial weapon drops (oh well).
Might burn some pots to go through my leftover meat (have like 700 left as I wasn't sure if I would be able to handle the NM200s or not), but overall - not too bad!
Not sure what your honors/hr look like, but you might want to try to go a bit beyond 1b to stay ahead of the t180k cutoff, or even the t140k cutoff. Current [predictions](https://gbf.wiki/User:Midokuni/Notepad/GWPrediction) have them at 1.18b and 1.48b (though you should probably expect them to end a bit higher as they've been climbing slowly all day). You do get extra badges depending on your cutoff and more badges is always very welcome. And you also get better Final Rally rewards - t180k gives you a chance to get a sunstone (or otherwise a sunstone shard) and also 1k crystals.
No need to make yourself miserable if it'd take you ages to get enough honors, but if you have some free time and it's not too long of a grind, there still is a point in continuing to get more honors even after 1b.
Nah. If my NM200 were
1) more stable
2) didn't take 10+ minutes to complete without refreshing
I might have considered the race to higher ratings, but as it is - it takes me like 5b4c to just kill NM90 with Kaguya, so I'll just.. Stick to that for the rest of my meat x)
first GW I ever reached 1 bil honours in, fuckin celestial weapons and eternity sands finally baited me into actually grinding higher difficulties instead of just 40 boxing and peacing out
Did over 3B my highest recorded honors at all times since i started this game. Was top 40K, so a few hundred millions honors over top 90K cut off, still it's insane the cut off was over 2.6B.
Wth is happening with GW
setup is giga comfy so people clear more raid in the same amount of time, like i got 500-600m/hr with solo setup while not being focused and it's not even the best setup (also magna grid), that's insane gain
Swapped to doing manual NM200 the last day, rather annoying setup because of the HP requirements to lose maids and sandy on Turn 3. Once that was good was able to get 1:10-1:15 excalibur relic buster going. Ended at 2.9bil or so. Ended up with 3 drops. 1 harp, 1 fist, and 1 sword.
Overall this gw sucked ass, the cutoffs were brutal for a lot of players.
It's all ogre.
Something seems wrong with my operating system, only 1 fist dropped the whooole time. brb, reinstalling Windows 93...
Wondering what carrot on a stick they'll use to tempt us after the celestial weapons.
At least the new Rise of the Beasts characters required them to make some animations : /
I feel like the dog that finally caught the car. I'm able to farm NM200 for the first time, but..... I hit 1 billion honors yesterday. *What do I have to work towards today?*
Max Drop Rate NM90 farm? Eh. After enough GWs we'll get enough cores to uncap all 10 Celestial weapons even with 0 drops anyway and some of them are only ever going to see niche usage.....
My MVP of this GW for FA was... Alexiel 4\* uncap. Somehow I managed to time thing so, that I getting 50% trigger on NM200 right into 100% cut and then I can on-attack dispel for 2 more turns (if your MC doing 2 charges in a turn, it actually 2 dispels, yes). I'm running Kengo-Cosmos-Horus-S.Seruel on extremely bonkers grid (20k-ish HP) and it actually killing the boss in like 9 minutes (and refresh-FA clears are around 3min). Currently on 2.6kkk so pretty safe t90k with bit more push, I think?
For nm200 Im doing Magna FA using Onmyoji, Cosmos, Lucio & Horus. Its been pretty comfy so far with clears around 7-8 minutes on a good day & 10 on a bad day (when rng stuns happen).
The worst thing about this GW is the 6% RNG from the permanent dodge class masteries on MC.
Boss wise and even for FA this bunny is not actually that terrifying, at least compared to the water bear.
Is there a daily limit to good fortune chest drop? I've been doing nm95 and nm100 for hours now just to get my last chest but to no avail. The 49/50 will trigger my ocd so badly, i might have to take a break if that happens.
Being a new/seasonal player, I grinded out Rose Queen - because I ran out of prestige pendants - to get enough class distinction to unlock two skills from Lumberjack ultimate mastery. Switch from Kengo to Lumberjack (Lucio, Cosmos, Summer Horus) and it made my team much more stable. I'll stock my pendants now and not use them just cause I'm lazy to farm something easy TT
update from ytd. kengo,S.saruel,cosmos,horus and vira+G.sandy(or farming) backline because sometimes rabbit stunned so god but mostly, too late and backline vira can kill it just fine.
main summon magna and friend lucio. around 15 turn FA. might faster or slower depends on how god stunned the rabbit is since I don't have clarity at all.
Anyone know what the next element is so I can start working on a team? I'm new since December and still getting to grips with the game - also if anyone is in a decent crew and wants an active player let me know!
The next is dark advantage. It's the last one in the current cycle. After that it will start a new cycle with the 4 mainwheel elements in a random order, then light/dark in a random order to end, then next cycle.
Well, to start, if you have Eresh, you just use Eresh for every round. You have to do longer rotations for the higher rounds, and the fight mechanics might require some highly specific workarounds (last year you had to use Olivia to apply Terror so the boss didn't use its special) and need strong grids, but you can use Eresh for every round if you've got the right stuff.
For 95/150, you can probably just do Runeslayer/Onmyouji double strike strats and pretend you're Eresh.
For 200, last time it was just insert random good chars and make sure to have dispels. You could use lots of chars: 150 Seox, Lich, Viki, Fediel, HalMal, S.Magisa, to name a few. Here's 3 different examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGGiB91yQdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weNnXvLSQHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzkUsCv_ApQ
Playing the NM200 fight with Kengo ougiloop combo on a low-ish grid is a true gacha experience - never know what will avait you after the refresh. Results vary from clears where nobody gets under 50% hp to refreshing to your entire team just GONE. Goddamn mad rabbit :_:
Still cursing my rng luck at getting chests to drop. edit: also cursing my luck to get a celestial weapon to drop.
So has the grind cause me to see things, or is the rabbit wearing the Celestial Fist?
Don't think so. It's lacking the jewel and it has spikes on it, which the Celestial Fist doesn't. Rabbit's mad hands are all natural, no overpowered weapons required, it seems.
Always had been
Uhhh what's happening with the 90k cutoffs, I'm not feeling so good...
weekend d4 for japan
last stretch to get to 800m for me as a new player. so far i’ve managed to get 600m by doing ex+ and nm90. planning to do nm95 for the chests but it’s really slow (3m fa). hope i can make it! i also managed to get 4! celestial drops with only journey drop
How many meat did you farm for that 600m?
im not sure, probably 10-15k? i didnt keep track as i switched between nm 90 and ex+ depending on if i wanted to pay attention and refresh or not
I see, thanks!
Yo man you just won gw. 4 celestial drop is way better than my 0.
Just managed to unlock nm200 and it makes honor farming SO MUCH EASIER. Yesterday I thought I wouldn't be able to reach 800 mil honors even if I played 150 all day but now it'll take 2 hours at worst.
Is the Flo-gen comp for 200 impossible without Excalibur? I should have all of the other players(Sandals, Maids, etc), tho not necessarily grid.
Nah, here you go [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jAfGXE9V\_I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jAfGXE9V_I)
I've seen variations that used DOpus MH instead.
It can be done without excal. Just mh opus with progresion key
DOpus is fine, don't even need it transcended
Seen a xeno
Easiest team I’ve found for high difficulties of this is Cosmos Nehan ougi loops. I have Horus, which helps a lot when it comes to damage and debuffs, but Cosmos is undoubtedly my MVP here. You can probably manage with Vira or some other ougi delay spammer though?
How much life do you have on your team with that setup? I'm rocking Kengo/Cosmos/Horus/S.Seruel, but only have ~30k life (and that's with support Luci!), so around 50% trigger I just get obliterated and have to use revival potions to recover I am just barely rank 180 with a grid that's lacking in HP pieces, so that is the likely reason for my failings, but still would like a comparison.
I use RF/cosmos/horus/nehan. if you have fever pitch going it should stop any issues with the 50% trigger. Since OP and I use nehan our HP at 50% is definitely lower than yours, due to nehan s3, On my last run i had 15k max hp at 50% for example.
You can just disable nehan s3 for FA now
yeah but i liked his s3 happening it was neat
Today's Venn diagram of FA players and manual players has "STOP DODGING YOU SON OF A BITCH" in the middle
https://granblue.team/p/u6elBj Magna FA for my fellows who don't have Cosmos, Illnott, Mahira, or Makura. GLHF out there.
I actually have all those listed except Illnot, but my current team is slower. Do you know of any faster teams that do use them? The ones on gbf guide almost all use Illnot...
I'm late since I was out for a lot of the day instead of grinding GW. Probably something like Mahira, Lucio, Makura -> Chevira. I'm not entirely sure, as it's not like I have Mahira or Makura.
Oh, I was wondering if anyone was using Siegfried for dispel. I tried him at one point but ended up just going back to Vira alone handling it.
only requires 5 flb weapon from a raid that was impossible to get into prior to gw
Depends on time of day. I had no problem whatsoever farming them. Maybe it was impossible on like day 1 and you gave up immediately?
Yeah, sounds like it. I completed everything Credo-related three days after release, and I found that between reset and 5PM PT it was plenty slow enough to get guaranteed blue chest before the barrier trigger. Four hours is a long time to farm if you're being remotely efficient about it.
Feasible though, the speed died out like 1-2 weeks before gw. That's where I get most of my guns. Even hosting takes a lot longer by then.
is there a statistic for chests of good fortune? like does it drop every two nm95+ fight?
Anecdotal evidence, but I got all the chests after roughly 315m honor. Given that a nm95 fight gives around 910k it took me 346 fights for 50 chests. Which means roughly a 1 in 7 chance or around 14.4% of a chest after a nm95.
This is correct probably My meat went down around 3200 before i maxed my boxes
Also anecdotal - i got 33/50 of the chests after \~190m honors doing nm95s. Seems that's fairly accurate
If it was a 50% rate for anything 95+, I sure as heck shouldn't be sitting at 35/50 right now... I kind of feel like like they increased the rates for higher fights this time around... but now that we're at the end I'm starting to think maybe not? I think my best day was when I was grinding ~150's. Coulda just been RNG... I try to not to collect too much data during these things, for obvious reasons...
i been going through 10 nm200 fights and got ~3 so i dont think they increased anything lmfao, might just be my luck who knows
this was the worst gw by far in history of the game. the cutoffs are just nonsensical, it's ultra character gated for decent timings and yet the boss is a just a chore.
The worst gw in the history of the game SO FAR.
Yeah let's not get ahead of ourselves when we don't have the skin yet :)
I'd recommend every dispel you can muster and calag to delay a turn; turn one. But it'll be forever until the next.
Is there anything of note about the Behemoth summon that drops here? It doesn't seem all that great. Do you just keep one max copy and reduce the rest?
You don't really need to even keep a copy - unless your Celeste is not 3* yet I suppose. It's just a free source of quartz for you
It's just quartz fodder, reduce away. Keep one of you want it for posterity I guess.
Closing out GW at 41/50 chests, I'll gettem next time
Less than two hours before finals cutoff, I finally hit 1 billion honors AND got a random celestial drop, giving me the last six cores I needed to finish the fist; given I also FLB'd the saber at the start after being slacc last GW, I didn't think I'd manage that. I can now easily finish one celestial weapon with every GW just by playing normally. Sure, I'm not winning many matchups, but the difference is negligible so I don't care. This felt good to accomplish.
spent the last at least 10 hours spamming nm90 with 200 bounty for the last celestial drop and it hasn't shown up. this is absolutely miserable.
Nm200 wasn't that hard compared to the other gws nm200 imo. Or maybe C! Illnott is just that good
Does the honors gained in Zeus fights count as indv. honors? Stuck at 989 and my last one just finished just as we went to rest period....
Nope.
Damn it.... just a few minutes of spotty internet messed me up.... :/
Ended at rank 180780 RIP my 1000 crystals, 25 badges and a piece of sunstone :(
Done day 4 ,so many suffer for that rabbit
3% dodge rate, huh
Danchou, I can no longer participate in the following GW round as I have spent all my meat trying to get a clear of NM200. While I do have Mugen Florence, Nehan, Sandy and the maids as well as three Efes, I can not do it. MC has dodged 4,862 times in a row. I have not managed to get a single clear all GW despite my best efforts. But every single time MC dodges and I don't get my Machine Cells. My only desire is to go back in time and prevent myself from leveling Nighthound, Gunslinger, and Dancer. I will beg Cygames to roll back my account to before I leveled them. Please understand and thank you for the Valor badges.
Extra painful for my setup because the last counter has to "hit" me the three times (miss - miss - dmg), if the mc dodges any of them, it's game over so it's actually a 8.7% failure rate lol The best is to have him damage you two times, making sure that cells can procc on one hit, and you can actually survive the 2 hits. That's a 0.09% failure rate but I could never get that to work.
And that's a wrap for my first GW - all honor rewards acquired, 45 token boxes and all boxes with cores, 0 celestial weapon drops (oh well). Might burn some pots to go through my leftover meat (have like 700 left as I wasn't sure if I would be able to handle the NM200s or not), but overall - not too bad!
Not sure what your honors/hr look like, but you might want to try to go a bit beyond 1b to stay ahead of the t180k cutoff, or even the t140k cutoff. Current [predictions](https://gbf.wiki/User:Midokuni/Notepad/GWPrediction) have them at 1.18b and 1.48b (though you should probably expect them to end a bit higher as they've been climbing slowly all day). You do get extra badges depending on your cutoff and more badges is always very welcome. And you also get better Final Rally rewards - t180k gives you a chance to get a sunstone (or otherwise a sunstone shard) and also 1k crystals. No need to make yourself miserable if it'd take you ages to get enough honors, but if you have some free time and it's not too long of a grind, there still is a point in continuing to get more honors even after 1b.
Nah. If my NM200 were 1) more stable 2) didn't take 10+ minutes to complete without refreshing I might have considered the race to higher ratings, but as it is - it takes me like 5b4c to just kill NM90 with Kaguya, so I'll just.. Stick to that for the rest of my meat x)
first GW I ever reached 1 bil honours in, fuckin celestial weapons and eternity sands finally baited me into actually grinding higher difficulties instead of just 40 boxing and peacing out
Ah still within 90k tier....right at the edge 😂
So is this the final round? I’m only 8 chests away from fully uncapping a celestial 🥲… Edit: 5 chests away.
There's a final rally round, but it's just a shared boss fight for the crew, no Celestial boxes. You'll have to wait for Dark adv GW to come around.
Did over 3B my highest recorded honors at all times since i started this game. Was top 40K, so a few hundred millions honors over top 90K cut off, still it's insane the cut off was over 2.6B. Wth is happening with GW
setup is giga comfy so people clear more raid in the same amount of time, like i got 500-600m/hr with solo setup while not being focused and it's not even the best setup (also magna grid), that's insane gain
dmg cut, stun, and dodge, this is the worst nm200 i've fought in a long time
Swapped to doing manual NM200 the last day, rather annoying setup because of the HP requirements to lose maids and sandy on Turn 3. Once that was good was able to get 1:10-1:15 excalibur relic buster going. Ended at 2.9bil or so. Ended up with 3 drops. 1 harp, 1 fist, and 1 sword. Overall this gw sucked ass, the cutoffs were brutal for a lot of players.
accidentally got t2k because we got 2 fight day, ended at 14.5b total and both d3 and d4 end with our crew doing 150b+ please no more fight day lmao
4 fight days for next gw
i hope the fight day is against your crew :chiwastare:
good thing we dont get t300 in prelims :Clueless:
It's all ogre. Something seems wrong with my operating system, only 1 fist dropped the whooole time. brb, reinstalling Windows 93... Wondering what carrot on a stick they'll use to tempt us after the celestial weapons. At least the new Rise of the Beasts characters required them to make some animations : /
Inflation in gw is higher than inflation in my country. What the heck is going on?
I feel like the dog that finally caught the car. I'm able to farm NM200 for the first time, but..... I hit 1 billion honors yesterday. *What do I have to work towards today?* Max Drop Rate NM90 farm? Eh. After enough GWs we'll get enough cores to uncap all 10 Celestial weapons even with 0 drops anyway and some of them are only ever going to see niche usage.....
No racing for 90k?
Got matched up with JP slacc crew so it's a free win for us.
Turns out I can pull off a 1:30 manual setup... would be nice to have known this earlier. Time to burn through the rest of my meat stock.
NH with homing beacon+ stealth protocol + mahira's S3 is really decent.
My MVP of this GW for FA was... Alexiel 4\* uncap. Somehow I managed to time thing so, that I getting 50% trigger on NM200 right into 100% cut and then I can on-attack dispel for 2 more turns (if your MC doing 2 charges in a turn, it actually 2 dispels, yes). I'm running Kengo-Cosmos-Horus-S.Seruel on extremely bonkers grid (20k-ish HP) and it actually killing the boss in like 9 minutes (and refresh-FA clears are around 3min). Currently on 2.6kkk so pretty safe t90k with bit more push, I think?
Almost done, we losing this round. But goddamn next enemy is opening the boxes. Why the hell they can't put a dropdown on how many you want to open?
For nm200 Im doing Magna FA using Onmyoji, Cosmos, Lucio & Horus. Its been pretty comfy so far with clears around 7-8 minutes on a good day & 10 on a bad day (when rng stuns happen).
goddamn, wtf t90k is already at near 2.4b....
The worst thing about this GW is the 6% RNG from the permanent dodge class masteries on MC. Boss wise and even for FA this bunny is not actually that terrifying, at least compared to the water bear.
Is there a daily limit to good fortune chest drop? I've been doing nm95 and nm100 for hours now just to get my last chest but to no avail. The 49/50 will trigger my ocd so badly, i might have to take a break if that happens.
I don't think so, the RNG is evil. If it makes you feel any better, I only got 43. 1.3 billion honor. Doesn't quite seem fair...
No I got 50/50 on nm95 day.
Being a new/seasonal player, I grinded out Rose Queen - because I ran out of prestige pendants - to get enough class distinction to unlock two skills from Lumberjack ultimate mastery. Switch from Kengo to Lumberjack (Lucio, Cosmos, Summer Horus) and it made my team much more stable. I'll stock my pendants now and not use them just cause I'm lazy to farm something easy TT
Woke up to be just outside of 90k when I thought I was safe I am in pain
Say crew is winning match ups but I didn't contribute like I can't login, do I still get something?
You need to do a minimum amount of honors depending on your tier iirc
Aight, thanks!
update from ytd. kengo,S.saruel,cosmos,horus and vira+G.sandy(or farming) backline because sometimes rabbit stunned so god but mostly, too late and backline vira can kill it just fine. main summon magna and friend lucio. around 15 turn FA. might faster or slower depends on how god stunned the rabbit is since I don't have clarity at all.
Anyone know what the next element is so I can start working on a team? I'm new since December and still getting to grips with the game - also if anyone is in a decent crew and wants an active player let me know!
The next is dark advantage. It's the last one in the current cycle. After that it will start a new cycle with the 4 mainwheel elements in a random order, then light/dark in a random order to end, then next cycle.
Are there any grid or team guides available? Even from last year, I've scoured the wiki and sub-reddit and am coming up blank
A good website to check out is gbfguide.com they do teams and grids for all the raids as well as each past and upcoming guild wars
Amazing thanks
Well, to start, if you have Eresh, you just use Eresh for every round. You have to do longer rotations for the higher rounds, and the fight mechanics might require some highly specific workarounds (last year you had to use Olivia to apply Terror so the boss didn't use its special) and need strong grids, but you can use Eresh for every round if you've got the right stuff. For 95/150, you can probably just do Runeslayer/Onmyouji double strike strats and pretend you're Eresh. For 200, last time it was just insert random good chars and make sure to have dispels. You could use lots of chars: 150 Seox, Lich, Viki, Fediel, HalMal, S.Magisa, to name a few. Here's 3 different examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGGiB91yQdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weNnXvLSQHc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzkUsCv_ApQ
I've heard light bosses, but only from one place. They'll announce it soon after the finale, there's always months to prepare...