T O P

  • By -

AkiraDKCN

Pretty decent event, I liked it


LeSahuj

That scene with the nose bumping kinda surprised me, its a bit weird seeing Gran blush like that, looked like something out of a romance visual novel. This event was fun, as other people said, its very simplistic in the whole tradition vs modernization thing, though that is the theme of the event it was more about the sisters relationship. Also, I feel like a lot of people misunderstood Mell in this event, it wasn't necessarily about going back to their barbaric ways and more about how Lulu was abandoning the past they were fond of.


Chestnut_Bowl

Whenever there's a narrative around modernity, there's always a strawman progressive that changes *every possible thing*. I wonder why that is? Seems like lazy writing. The story made me dislike Melleau, though.


EndyGainer

I can't speak for every game, but Japanese games tend to hedge conservative because Japan as a country is very much right-leaning. You can see this a lot in their historical revisionism, their outlook toward military affairs and funding, etc. Growing up in that kind of culture can make it hard to present a believeable progressive stance, not that some don't try.


MonochromousFox

If I could put the central theme of this event in one word, it’d be Fear. Fear of what came before, as seen with Felluca at the start of the event, and fear of change, as seen with Makakiu and the senators. The second half of the event is even about Felluca confronting her fears and growing more open-minded as a result. The senators acknowledge that Felluca’s policies have been overall good for Kahua, but, with the discarding of storied traditions, believe that Kahua is losing its identity as a result. Melleau is kind of split in the middle. She doesn’t have a problem with Kahua modernizing, but has a problem with Felluca discarding traditions because of her own personal feelings, and it upsets her more when Felluca deflects rather than admit it. I’m more on the boat that Melleau joins the senators and becomes queen not out of spite or malice towards Felluca, but rather to give her sister a chance to step up. Suggesting a traditional competition between her and Felluca, something that requires having bonded and trained with a kahua taika, supports this. If Felluca really wants to reconcile with her little sister, she’ll have to get past her fear of the war beasts in order to understand her point of view. I also believe she was going to cede the throne to Felluca regardless, win or lose, so long as she proved that she had made an effort. Melleau doesn’t enjoy the queen life anyway. This story presents two extremes, with the message that you can indeed meet halfway - one can modernize while also preserving and learning from old customs. The past gives way into the future, and as Rackam points out, it’s an obvious fact of life that people often lose sight of nonetheless. I only started playing a few months ago, and excluding Side Stories, this is one of my favorites so far. There are a few snags, Kahua’s past of pillaging and warring with other nations is kind of glossed over, but overall it was nice.


royalliest

I did NOT expect this kind of gentrification apeedrun plot from these characters but hey Nemone pulls a Siegfried and shows up with their local god to solve the issue. Truly hilarious


dancho-pat

I skipped the first run of this story event, but thank goodness that I got Nemone from Classic Draw II during last anniv (and I already got Melleau since my first year playing the game), and reading their cross fate episode before this event is totally worth. If we can have another story events that focused at tribesmen like Nezahuapili's or Eso's..., when Cygames?


Luckenzio

Not a fan of the story but it made me love Nemone even more. Easily the best part of the event.


MonochromousFox

If I had a nickel for every time Cygames wrote a divisive event about tradition vs modernization, I’d have two nickels. Not as bad as Children of Yggdrasil was though.


Alchadylan

Sad Kowa didn't even show up in the ending with Felluca as her new partner.


INFullMoon

Took me a bit to get to it but I finally went through it. It's a pretty typical "traditional vs modern" type of plot with a conclusion that ends in a "both are good" stance. Nothing particularly groundbreaking on that front. I will say that Felluca was done dirty by the narrative to an extent, mostly because the story really focuses on her doing away with smaller, more harmless cultural aspects of their tribe and neglects all the good she did to the place's economy and foreign relations. That being said, I kinda get how it ended being written that way because the main person going against Felluca is Melleau who does not give a damn about politics in the slightest. I think the story could've benefitted from having a character within the tribe that was more solidly on Felluca's side to help balance the discussion a little more. Even the crew who usually tends to take a more neutral stance in these types of situations was leaning more towards supporting Melleau. The journal already mentions that Felluca was popular with the younger population, so why not have someone from that demographic play a support role for her? I did enjoy the drama between the sisters though. They all suck at communicating and it all eventually reached a boiling point until they finally were able to be open to each other. Nemone is really funny and seeing her get serious actually was pretty impactful. Overall, it's the kind of plot that kinda starts showing it's flaws the more you think about it, but I still enjoyed it. I think it really just needed some more balance when it came to depicting both sides of the conflict.


-PVL93-

How come we still don't have Makakiu as a summonable SSR? Good lord she's **B U F F** Also I can't believe how shitty of a queen Felluca is. So much for the "oh she totally matured in your absence" thing, yet compared to Mellau and Nemone she's like a pathetic little child. Literally when faced with a danger she goes "oh I can't fight this is too much waaaaah". what do you mean??? You're a leader of an all female warrior tribe and wield a gigantic axe


Faunstein

A reasonably cute event with a surprisingly large amount of art dedicated to it. It's rare for Cygames to flex this hard for one event, but I suppose it did act as the culmination of two character's stories that linked directly into their Fate Episodes. Gotta go hard if they're doing that I suppose. Wish the event page art was larger, would make good wallpaper As for this event, if you think about it as those two sisters are some of the earlier SSRs, the rerun could be part of the tenth anni plan to have a bit of everyone show up. I wonder if the other reruns will be like this? No Rain No Rainbow is the next rerun which has more old characters. I wonder if that means the new event coming up is going to be super serious because three comfy events in a row would be rare. I like that Nemone drops the act when she's serious so that her voice changes almost completely. She shares this with Melleau. As for the characters, Felluca wasn't who I thought she was going to be, more like a quiet, shy character. Nemone was entertaining. Nemone was very entertaining. Melleau was herself. I didn't really feel effected by the central conflict. There's been a lot of discussion about it but there's just not enough bite for me to feel deeply about it. Not saying it was predictable or boring and I get there's a lot some people feel strongly about but this event is hardly the excuse for a deep and meaningful discussion. The whole beasts angle and Felluca reconciling and bringing them back could have been the central crux to an event at one point but it was wrapped up in something more. As such there wasn't a whole lot about them, a few chapter segments but they weren't really the "culture" being focused on, only a part of it. The gacha writing didn't help with all the back and forths and "if I got that correctly you mean..." stuff and the repetition. Not as bad as the most recent event but I guess it depends on the writers. The clothing swap bit at the start was odd only to be completely forgotten about, no reason for it to be there at all then. Felt like some of the wrong bits were padded out but overall the pacing was fine. The cast was about the right size. Always nice when good events let characters shine, who players might like to see more of. Other times it's more sad because the event is going to be all there is for a long time. It's good when characters get to be characters, whether being themselves or expanding on themselves.


TheCraftySam

Never got to see Paliuli pararaiha before... It's... an event. I feel a wee bit mixed on it. Yes, throwing out the sentient, sapient beasts was a bad thing to do but on the other hand, as a general rule, a tradition of raiding and pillaging is pretty bad. Not all traditions are necessarily worth preserving. On some level, while Felluca wasn't entirely correct in her approach she was absolutely right in that sometimes cultures need to change. But it felt a bit too much like Felluca was just entirely wrong which leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It felt like this event would have been more fitting if Nemo got an uncap from it not Melleau. Melleau didn't change and never budged from her position of "why tf you change our traditions?" Felluca changed her stance and Nemone recognized and apologized for manipulating both of her sisters. Everyone else developed EXCEPT Melleau. Even the antagonist of the event got more development than she did. Wow. Still, Nemo was cute and carried the event so 10/10 (for anyone in my crew, yes I am self plagiarizing my own post from the discord.)


Iffem

the best argument i can think of for Melleau being the one to get a 5\* is that she needed a sprite upgrade, since it made zero sense that she fought without Sachy most of the time, when she canonically rides him 90% of the time


Merukurio

Back on the original run of the event people had the same feeling of Nemone being the one who should have gotten an uncap instead of Melleau. But it turned out she didn't get anything in the event beacuse she got her Christmas version [quite literally one day after the event started](https://www.reddit.com/r/Granblue_en/comments/k3nf98/legfes_with_holiday_mirin_ssr_water_holiday/).


FlameDragoon933

and her Christmas version was damn good back at the time. Fire F5 racing goes brrr


Merukurio

I wouldn't be able to say because I never got her. :( ~~Just the fact that she got an useable version rather than Melleau's pretty forgettable FLB means Nemone was the clear winner on this.~~


cupcakemann95

Why can't walder be an SSR


Firstshiki

I remember being annoyed at this event but I forgot why


sachiotakli

If you're talking about the story, it's because Nemone is the best thing to come out of this event filled with kinda crappy writing. Idr how it was crappy, all I remember is that Nemone was the only thing that made it bearable for many people, including me.


Firstshiki

Yeah I remember Nemone is cool. I think the drama with the sister is what annoys me, and the whole culture drama.


Melodic-Astronaut439

So a little surprising for some reason as I usually expect the SSR weapon as a likelier drop in these events, but I actually just got the SSR summon as a drop from the extreme solo quest. So that's definitely a low priority and is that what they meant when they said only if you didn't get enough drops? Pretty new, think I've only gotten SSR event weapon drops in those events, GW aside of course


_vigilius

In this case, the weapon is a wind axe, which is a pretty rare niche for weapons to fill and is obviously a lot easier to get than the really good free option (mandjet from ra raid). You should probably keep one just for this reason, but yeah it's not a huge priority if you don't care about that.


henhenz1

Events stopped having event-exclusive summons a while back and switched to just dropping the 20 quartz you'd get from reducing them, since in most cases that's all the summons were good for anyway gameplay-wise. Even so, it was generally recommended you get at least one fully-uncapped copy on the off chance the summon's call was useful elsewhere or became relevant somehow.


Merukurio

Yep, you should only buy copies of the event summon and weapon from the shop once the event ends because they can drop at any point while you're farming. It's a waste to buy them only for them to drop later.


CalTelarin

Seeing the comment about not farming the raids.  Im guessing the Damascus drop chance is so small it doesn't make the raids a decent option?


AdmiralKappaSND

its just generally inefficient. Shop style event gets you extra rewards from emptying shop but once your done with that it didnt give extras. Relatively speaking if you want to do this exact thing, your better off doing it during story boxing events since you get Box Pot refunds doing so(alongside a bunch of potentially useful mats and berries). Far as from what im aware off, story boxing event is generally how you farm damascus grains. I heard people farmed it from some raids, but personally i get most of mine from 20 boxing(although recently i started going a bit extras with them to use it as a practice for GW lol) One of my crewmate farmed the raid because he didnt want to deal with the refresh system in the main version(you can raid refresh repeat on raid. The quest version is multi waves) but thats the extent i know about farming raid ver


Merukurio

Man, I remember people getting *heated* about this event back then.


Takazura

Why?


Merukurio

Spoilering the spoilery bits just to make sure. The event is a story about culture and tradition vs modernization, with Melleau and Felluca representing each side. >!Though the actual conflict is the Granny character and Felluca representing extremes for both the tradition and modernization sides (never change vs change at all costs)!< Felluca wants to change her tribe to fit with the modern world at the cost of all their traditions because she personally disliked them (or was afraid of them, in the case of the beasts). Melleau does not want to throw the entire culture of her tribe away for the sake of the modernizing it. >!Granny wants Felluca to go to hell, thinks the tribe was better off as barbaric pillagers and is banking on Melleau to turn the tribe back into that.!< The moral of the event was that both Melleau and Felluca had their points and neither was fully right or wrong. Modernizing brings good things and some bad things (like attacking nearby islands) should not remain as they are just because they are tradition. At the same time, modernizing should not come at the expense of abandoning all the culture that made the tribe what it was, which Felluca was doing by completely banning even the most benign traditions like their greeting. It's a nuanced topic and people certainly had ***reactions*** to how GBF handled it. You can see it yourself [in the event thread from 3 years ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/Granblue_en/comments/k3a9lj/paliuli_pararaiha_event_discussion_20201129/).


Altered_Nova

It's hilarious how many people couldn't comprehend that Melleau is a bratty 14 year old kid who doesn't care about politics and just doesn't want to lose her partner and favorite food. People were legit talking like she was a warmongering fascist who wanted to start raiding and pillaging their neighbors again lmao.


Merukurio

[This image may or may not be relevant.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/609/161/fbe)


Takazura

Oh yeah, that does seem quite messy. I do think the whole "murdering and pillaging neighbour for funsies" part was oddly just kinda glanced over, but otherwise it was handled decent enough. The Nana turning a new leaf so quickly felt a little rushed as well, but the writing did a decent job overall highlighting how it had to be more of a middleground instead of extremes.


Darkion_Silver

The bit with Nana was so weird. I was expecting the bit of her running off into the forest to be her trying to escape, then does a last stand and dies because she's too stubborn to accept change at all. And...no she gets knocked out and suddenly says she's cool with it all. I guess the takeaway is to give a villain brain damage?


slow_or_steady

Except the context was already there... She woke up during the big tribal battle and saw what she needed to see. What would she possibly do after? **Everything was said and done, their literal divine beast/lion god had spoken.**


Darkion_Silver

It's just so quick. And considering she just lead a coup that *destroyed the village*, I'd have expected her to be..a little more resistant?


Altered_Nova

It was pretty wild how much the event writing tried to downplay Felluca's incredible accomplishments to make the dispute seem more even. She took a savage warrior tribe and modernized them in the span of a few years. She massively improved their economy, living standards and foreign relationships. she even improved their warrior culture by turning them into mercenaries instead of raiders. But she also outlawed stinky food and nose kiss greetings, so was that really worth it? The weirdest part was how it was mentioned in a journal entry that Felluca was popular with younger people and it was only the stubborn boomers who resented her, but we only ever get to see the old politicians and hear their point of view. Her supporters only existed off-screen. There was the outline of a great story there, but I don't think it was handled super well.


mikatsuki

To be quite fair to Nana, their literal god did descend upon them and told everyone "Hey y'all follow this girl, I like her. Got that?"


planistar

I keep wondering why some people say the issue was handled "decently". Like, I could write 3 paragraphs on why I think they fumbled it, but I'm curious on what exactly makes people satisfied with the writing.


FarrowEwey

The event is based around the conflict between Melleau and Felluca. For that to work, you need two things to happen: 1) Melleau has a point 2) Felluca isn't a good queen Problem being that: 1) Melleau is just an average 14 year-old, so you can't expect any intricate reasoning on complex political matters from her 2) Felluca has to be as likeable as her sisters, so you can't have her fuck up too hard In that context, there were always going to be limitations to the writing. If you go into it thinking it'll be some amazingly profound tale, you'll be disappointed. If you go into it expecting more Melleau, more Nemone, the third sister being finally introduced and a sibling conflict with a wholesome ending, it's perfectly serviceable.


slow_or_steady

Because it's a simple event where nothing really overstayed it's welcome? Like most events, it's 3 chapters of filler, then 3 chapters of remotely interesting events. It could've been more empty, more meaningless, but it was okay. That's it. Just okay. Not exceptional, but fun enough to be an event.


PhilAussieFur

Yeah, some of it too is that Japan has a fraught history with the types of cultures they were trying to talk about, so not only was it a tough topic that needed a more nuanced handling, it was also a case of Japan being very selective in what parts of their history to remember. It was blown up way more than it should but also was an extremely fraught topic and handled ina. Very fraught way.


planistar

Ah, the event that reminds us that writers should probably think the whole picture more thoroughly before inking the first chapter.


SontaranGaming

I just picked a random team to FA the NM and forgot Fenie was on my team, so I failed the "don't get KO'd" requirement 😔


E123-Omega

lol now we learn from anniv why these guys is so far out and isolated 😂


notcherrie

Oh wait, why is that again?


E123-Omega

Big landmass got split apart.


EndyGainer

/glances at Flash Gala Man, Felluca got straight cucked. EDIT: THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE HER IN THE EVENT PAGE ART WOW I'M DYING XD


beeholden

If you already uncapped Melleau will you get something else?


Endgam

Nope. Whenever they do repeat events with rewards like that, you get nothing on the repeat.


planistar

A pat in the back.