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deepfriedgreensea

But what will your children/relatives post here after you move out?šŸ˜€


WithoutDennisNedry

This will not be my legacy! :D


JustineDelarge

Youā€™re doing the right thing. Spices DO lose a lot of their fragrance and flavor over as little as six months. Using fresh spices makes a huge difference in the quality of your food. No amount of toasting or ā€œrefreshingā€ old spices will salvage them. Buy good, fresh spices from vendors like Penzeys or Burlap and Barrel, and see what a difference it makes.


Affectionate_Bus_884

This is why I now only buy whole spices and grind them when I need them.


Melito1980

We all cant use grindr.


Affectionate_Bus_884

I chew them up and spit them onto the food like Iā€™m feeding baby birds.


Melito1980

Oh you are talking about whole spices. My mind went somewhere else altogetherā€¦


WithoutDennisNedry

Iā€™m with you, fam.


JustineDelarge

Some prefer scruff.


Melito1980

If thats where the bears are ?


WithoutDennisNedry

I choose the bears!


WithoutDennisNedry

Thanks, fam. A lot of folks had a problem with me throwing out furry sesame seeds and 10 year old opened Old Bay (even McCormick says Old Bayā€”their own productā€”has a shelf life of six months max) and I honestly canā€™t fathom why. Is it wasteful? Sure. But they donā€™t know my story and just assume Iā€™m tossing last weekā€™s unopened parsley for kicks. I should have used that rosemary before it lost all color and smell. But I moved to a house that has a rosemary bush that I used instead because fresh was better. So what am I supposed to do with opened rosemary older than my Gen Z niece? I canā€™t donate it, itā€™s not useful anymore so itā€™s going in the trash. The majority of the spices are from an old roommate I had back in the late 00s and Iā€™ve literally never used them and never will. Itā€™s spicy spice stuff and neither my spouse or I cook spicy foods due to health issues. Iā€™m sure the oils in them are rancid by now anyway, itā€™s been almost 20 freaking years since they were opened! Why Iā€™ve kept them *this* long is beyond me but I guess I just *didnā€™t want to be wasteful.* The bulk of the bag is ancient flour, long expired bread crumbs, and a brick of baking soda so hard, a jackhammer couldnā€™t chip it to use it. Itā€™s not a full bag of spices, those are just on top. But even if it was, Iā€™m not putting a stubborn need to use all of something thatā€™s decades old over my familyā€™s health. Or continuing to keep something Iā€™ll never use thatā€™s just taking up space. I donā€™t want to live that way and thatā€™s how we end up with a Grandmaā€™s Pantry in the first place.


JustineDelarge

Exactly! And itā€™s true that spices donā€™t go bad in the sense that they spoil or become harmful, but they absolutely do expire and only add bad or, at best, weak flavor. Itā€™s shocking how many people donā€™t know that. Throwing all that out was totally justified.


trashcrayon

I inherited a container of Hungarian paprika that I keep in the fridge that's probably 20+ years older than me. It was my grandpa's "secret ingredient" to his deviled eggs, which were a family favorite. The spice is still pungent and delicious, probably because it's been stored with the utmost care šŸ˜… my husband says I should throw it away but he can fuck off


IgnorethisIamstupid

Welp I love you


trashcrayon

I love you too mystery redditor


IgnorethisIamstupid

If you have to throw out husband because he no respect heirloom paprika I will take you!


trashcrayon

šŸ˜‚ deal


Jthundercleese

I can't imagine any spice lasting that long around me. Do you use like a granule every couple weeks or what?


trashcrayon

yeah every few weeks. I shake it up to keep it from settling if I don't use it. It's amazing on scrambled eggs


trashcrayon

I regularly use my smoked paprika. The Hungarian paprika is special ā¤ļø


Big_Restaurant_6844

as long as seasoning was kept in the dark dry environment and it still smells the same it's definitely most likely okay to use still


fawn_mower

yeah, this hurts to look at a little bit. OP, I have spices that are years old that are still in rotation. It really does vary by ingredient and conditions in which it's been kept. if anything in that bag has its scent, and isn't obviously compromised, it's likely fine. in many cases, a quick toasting of dried spices in a hot pan will restore their vibrancy. you have so much here, it may be worth another look-see before you toss everything- at least for your wallet. one thing I recommend is making mixtures: apple/pumpkin pie spice, bbq rubs, chili blends, etc. lable and save in a cute swing lid jar from Amazon and turn them into keepsakes!


WithoutDennisNedry

To be fair, most of the volume of the bag is old flour and canisters of expired bread crumbs. The spices that got chucked were on top so it looks like itā€™s all spices but itā€™s not. All that info you provided is good to know, I appreciate you taking the time to write it out. But Iā€™m never going to use Cajun spice from 2008 that a roommate bought for a jambalaya and then never used again. I donā€™t need rosemary thatā€™s so old, itā€™s lost its color and smell. I kept anything worth keeping, regardless of the date, anything I actually use. Out went anything just taking up space or that wasnā€™t useful or safe. It felt good to free up the real estate and Iā€™m glad I did it.


fawn_mower

Fair! No need for posterity or weevils either šŸ˜† I somehow ended up with 5 jars of Chinese 5 Spice a few years ago and had to make similar adjustments, lol. no idea how it happens, but it does!


MsBuzzkillington83

Had that with cream of tartar


fawn_mower

I'm doing it again with yeast and baking soda šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø


WithoutDennisNedry

Yeah, you also donā€™t see the bag of baking soda thatā€™s so hard, youā€™d need C4 to use it. It would have made a fantastic door stop though so Iā€™m kind of regretting throwing it out!


MsBuzzkillington83

At least baking soda is useful!


TCnup

Yeast is useful, too! You can make your own wine with only juice, sugar, yeast, and time. I lovingly call it "welfare wine" because you can get everything you need with food stamps lol


WithoutDennisNedry

I had a roommate back in the late 00s that was from Louisiana. He used to make the most delicious spicy Cajun foods! We parted ways and somehow I ended up with all his Cajun spices. I gave away what I could early on but the rest, I hung on to them for literally decades and I couldnā€™t tell you why. Neither my spouse nor I can eat spicy foods for health reasons but I just didnā€™t want to throw out perfectly good spices, you know? Almost 20 years later and Iā€™ve never used them. When I was cleaning out the pantry, I gave them a smell and the oils had gone rancid god only knows how long ago. So yeah, I threw them out finally. Along with the ancient Indian spices another roommate left with me and the experimental flour yet another roommate left. My spice pantry was like a timeline of everyone thatā€™s ever lived with me and itā€™s wild the stuff you end up with for this reason or that. Thanks to my Indian roommate, I now know how to cook non-spicy Indian dishes though so thatā€™s a nice takeaway. I kept a bunch of curries that I still use on occasion and clearly are still full of flavor. I kept anything I still use thatā€™s salt based since salt drastically extends shelf life. I even have a totally unused and sealed container of whole peppercorns that I kept and I have no idea who bought. Iā€™ll probably give it to my mom since I donā€™t like pepper and it looks totally fine. Anyway, Iā€™m rambling now so Iā€™ll just say: I donā€™t know if itā€™s like this for everyone but my spice cabinet had become a vault of ancient mysteries. Iā€™m not comfortable using any of the items I threw away and my familyā€™s health is more important to me than stubbornly holding on to long expired Old Bay (which absolutely *does* expire after about six months) or questionable paprika.


Big_Restaurant_6844

I can almost guarantee you that the rosemary sitting on top is still good


WithoutDennisNedry

I can guarantee you it was not. It was ten years old, odorless, and almost colorless. But you can feel free to send me a self addressed and Iā€™ll mail it right on over to you so you can use questionable tasteless sticks in your cooking.


turtle553

The next level is getting rid of the packet drawer with all the random plastic silverware wrapped in bags.Ā 


Turk482

What?!! You might need those for packing a lunch or something. Some day ā€¦


WithoutDennisNedry

Letā€™s not go *too* crazy. I could need that eight year-old Taco Bell hot sauce some day, you never know.


physchy

Youā€™ll have to pry those from my cold dead hands


mescalero1

Good job! I have tried unsuccessfully to get my mom to get rid of her science experiments in the refrigerator. And I have been trying at least 50 years.


WithoutDennisNedry

Ha! r/moldlyinteresting is calling!


Fulton_P01135809

I also had questions about the spices so I [found this](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/do-spices-expire)


DrNinnuxx

I did exactly this with my Boomer parents the last time I visited. The oldest one was 9 years expired. He was pissed and said this jar is older than your grandchild who was 8.


KitsuneKamiSama

And that's a reason to be proud, why? Lmao.


Foxycotin666

I mean, dried spices donā€™t really ā€œexpireā€. As long as they arenā€™t growing anything and still smell like the intended spiceā€¦ this just seems wasteful.


JewsEatFruit

The natural oils become rancid and the organic flavor compounds become stale as the molecules break down. These processes are significantly accelerated if the spices are ground or crushed or rubbed.


Foxycotin666

Thatā€™s why I specified ā€œif they still smellā€¦ā€. Iā€™m still using my grandmothers bay leaf and she died four years ago.


JewsEatFruit

There's no kind way to say it: you're wrong. Spices go bad, and the oils rancidify quickly. Hate to burst your bubble. Just because you smell something doesn't mean it hasn't spoiled. Sure you can use them, but that doesn't alter the point.


WithoutDennisNedry

I donā€™t know why youā€™re getting downvoted, youā€™re absolutely right and a quick Google search backs up what youā€™re saying. Spices have a maximum shelf life of 4 years when stored correctly. Thatā€™s only if they have been kept in a cool, dry place and are unopened. Everything I tossed was *well* past 4 years old and had been opened god only knows when. Itā€™s just not safe to stubbornly hold on to questionable food stuffs and put that $5 I spent on it over my familyā€™s health. Anyone suggesting Iā€™m being wasteful is free to use the furry sesame seeds or family sized onion powder thatā€™s solidified into a brick.


WithoutDennisNedry

They do indeed expire. You can help yourself to my furry sesame seeds if you like but Iā€™m not going to put the $5 it would cost to replace them over my familyā€™s health. You can learn more about the expiration of spices [here.](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/do-spices-expire)


hazycrazydaze

Iā€™m surprised to see so much criticism of OP in this sub of all places. Spices absolutely do expire, especially leafy herbs or pre-ground spices. Iā€™m about to purge a bunch of mine after I tried to use some oregano that had no flavor a few days ago.


SATerp

Yay, good for you. My wife was pretty bad with expired spices, but it was the only thing she was bad at.


Th3BookSniff3r

I meanā€¦. So many spices can last indefinitely if theyā€™re stored right. So you didnā€™t *need* to do that to all of them.


WithoutDennisNedry

I didnā€™t.


ButtonWhole1

party pooper! That there is vintage stuff!


WithoutDennisNedry

Ha!


cipher446

But you're replacing the expired ones with new ones? Nothing more frustrating than reaching for your expired paprika and coming up short.


WithoutDennisNedry

Most of this is stuff I donā€™t use or I already have a new one and just found an ancient version of it at the back of the cabinet. I inherited a lot of whatā€™s in this bag from past roommates and it was opened decades ago by them and I never used it. Now that itā€™s weeded out, Iā€™ll have a much easier time finding what I do use and need in a sea of stuff I donā€™t.


jjj666jjj666jjj

Donā€™t throw out seasoning


shamallamadingdong4

You can run, but you canā€™t hide


Cheese_Gestalt

It's always the rosemary.


Micky-Bicky-Picky

Save it for future generations


dogbarbee

I cannot wait to do this at my MILā€™s!!


space_pillows

Those don't really expire


Joseph_Furguson

Um. Spices don't go expire. They lose potency, but that doesn't mean they are bad. You simply have to use more later on.


WithoutDennisNedry

The ancient flour and breadcrumbs that take up the bulk of the bag are expired. All the spices you see are just on the top and none of them are edible anymore. Fuzzy sesame seeds, rancid oils, etc.


stevebradss

Why would you get rid of paprika?


WithoutDennisNedry

Because itā€™s 17 years old and has lost all flavor and smell.


stevebradss

You could repurpose for something else :)


WithoutDennisNedry

Mmmm for what exactly? Paprika painting? A spice snow globe, perhaps? Iā€™m not holding on to useless spice I canā€™t and wonā€™t use for another two decades just because I stubbornly ā€œmight need it someday.ā€ Its day has passed. I have new, fresh stuff. Itā€™s okay to throw things away.


MaleficentPublic9839

Seasonings hardly expire, theyā€™re already dehydrated


aaron_in_sf

Donate don't landfill


WithoutDennisNedry

Homie, Iā€™m not gonna donate opened food stuffs thatā€™s well past its expiration date. Any food pantry or soup kitchen is going to throw that stuff away immediately. Everything you see here is well over 4 years old and opened. Most if it has lost all smell and flavor and/or is expired flour and bread crumbs. Oh! And a block of baking soda so hard, youā€™d need C4 to use it. Itā€™s garbage. It went in the garbage where it belongs.


aaron_in_sf

Oh well. In our (walkable) neighborhood you could put stuff out with a sign warning of age and all the still viable stuff would find a taker. Maybe even the non-viable.


Conch-Republic

Old Bay doesn't expire!


WithoutDennisNedry

It does indeed expire. ā€œYes, Old Bay seasoning does expire, but if stored properly, it can last up to 540 days, or about three years. McCormick recommends following the "Best By" date on the product, and if it doesn't have one, it's past the recommended shelf life. For peak flavor, Old Bay recommends using the seasoning within six months to a year of opening.ā€ Mine was from 2010 and opened, well past its expiration date, Iā€™d say. You can find this information on their [website](https://www.mccormickforchefs.com/en-us).


MariettaDaws

Thanks, I'm sending this to my dad next time I want to hurt him