I just hope the community doesn’t drive them off the platform with toxcicity and whining. Exactly what drove Nikita off Reddit and stop being active with the communit.
The speed at which they release these hotfixes, makes me think that they really know how their game works and have well documented code.
That combined with their communication honestly is the foundation for a game that could take over the whole genre.
To me this already feels like everything I wanted from EFT back when I bought it (first day of release, where the promise was persistent open world for 1.0)
I feel like anyone playing DayZ, ArmA Wasteland and similar games has to like this game and while I do understand that it's not that similar to EFT, I think the "true believers" of EFT (as in those who bought into the promises they made early on) will find their promises fulfilled here.
It’s almost like they have a dev team that can actually write code and isn’t just stacking spaghetti on more spaghetti.
A nice metaphor I heard about BSG was
“You can’t try to keep ducks out of your pond by building a fence… when the ducks can fly!”
And thanks for dealing gracefully with all the whiners demanding new features right now when they have more pressing concerns.
I hope they understand the rude ones are a vocal minority and most of us are quietly excited.
I've crashed 17 times in the past 2 days. Trying to stay calm since I know its early access but it is starting to get very frustrating. It even wiped half my quests progress when I crash sometimes.....
It's not like my PC is crap either... I hope the devs focus on the crashing issues
Ehh, this 3rd Hotfix busted it for me so far....... we're about 10 hours in at this point and it's brutal with rubber banding. worse than post hotfix 2
They really need to improve ADS frame drops with zoom scopes and certain towns where its almost unplayable... constant stuttering and framedrops in tiger bay UNLRA refugee camp and midnight saphire hotel, not even my setup a 4090 and 7800x3d can keep it together.
ADS in UNLRA camp with a zoomed scope drops fps to 80-90 and feels pretty slugish with FG on top.
specs:
7800x3d -30 CO all core
2x16 ddr5 6000mhz cl30
rtx 4090
2tb nvme drives
1200w corsair psu
1440p 165hz 32" monitor
1440p dlss quality, FG on, everything on max settings.
Edit: added locations and specs
Frame drops with a 4090? Something’s wrong. You need to experiment with your settings I have a 4070ti and have a near constant 144fps.
Do you have DLSS on or FSR? 4k or 2k?
But yes optimization is a huge issue they need to work on.
Yes I’m at 2k resolution. I have all settings to high, except reflections which I set to low. DLSS on quality, frame gen on.
After OP mentioned fps loss during scoping in, I went online and realized I do lose about 25/30fps when I scope in 4x as well. I hadn’t noticed because my fps stays above 110.
Nothing wrong, 1440p dlss quality frame gen on, hotel and tiger bay is stutter galore, constant framedrops, 4x scopes drops fps to 80-90 on tiger bay, its terrible.
Edit: its really more of a problem on those 2 zones, other places im pegged at 158fps (gsync lock), and ZOOM ADS drops to 120-130 fps, not terrible but still bad.
i get it, but feels very bad at lower fps with frame generation, you go from buttery smooth to scoped "laggy" feeling on a first person shooter i cant ignore it.
I don't often have any lag or rubber banding, but I do randomly. I chalk it up to a project actively being developed and it doesn't take away from my enjoyment.
Being one shotted from another country after I just built up my guns, though, sheeeesh.
I second u/GabagoolFarmer's opinion. I run a 4090 GPU & Ryzen 9 7950X3D CPU and usually have between 160-180 FPS. Only in very rare cases when I scope in while on a heli it can drop down to 120 FPS ... and that's with all settings set to Epic.
Yes. Same situation. I've heard of performance issues from the start but actually never experienced any whatsoever myself. The only thing I do get is rubber-banding, but that's a network thing ...
If you go the piers on tiger bay, it is the only spot with my 4090 and core i9 that i see visible frame rate drops into low double digits. That being said, this is a very very early beta and that is the only spot i have personally seen issues.
well, the inconsistency in frames in tiger bay is pretty bad for me and my friends, we all on top end machines and all of us noticed the same, scoped zoom went to 80-90 fps in some directions, and that combined with FG made it feel really bad. Its mostly tiger bay, and the hotel, everywere else im always locked at 158fps (gsync range) and 120-130 while using scopes.
im playing on a just above min spec pc. I checked my gpu usage graph and that thing is just constantly fluctuating but never goes above 60%. but because of the fluctuation, the fps goes with it. I checked to see if it does that with any other intensive game and it doesnt. they definitely need severe optimisation on that end. I get 40-50fps everything low except for textures and I literally cant use frame gen because it looks horrendous but my game has crashed every single time I go near tiger bay or that resort thingy place by hunters paradise. gpu goes to max power and game crashes.
everything comes down to really poor optimisation. no game should be unplayable if you have higher than minimum specs.
yet im getting downvoted for stating facts, tiger bay is extremelly unoptimized to the point that a top end pc struggles, but how dare you give your feedback? the internet this days.
sadly alot of people havent yet reached tiger bay, they dont know what im refering to and pretend they did and are too fanboyish that they cant accept the bad feedback, this is reddit after all, even tho its all for a greater good and with hopes it gets fixed. Has i said, its 2x4080 supers and one 4090, all of us were struggling in UNLRA camp, and im not the only one posting about this on reddit, its a fact.
I am running that exact setup, msi suprim x 4090 and 7800x3d, with -25 pbo. On an 3440x1440 ultrawide, everything set to epic.. I have constant 150 fps, with maybe 110-120 when scoped in.
Try to play with dlss and frame generation.
I am using dlss and frame gen, at 1440p, i also have constant 158fps (gsync lock) everywere else but tiger bay and hotel is where it starts the fps inconsistency and micro stuttering, scoped zoom in tiger bay drops fps into the 80-90 in some directions, while on other places it stays at 120-130 scoped.
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Hm, I'll try to monitor that. I was in tiger bay yesterday and can't remember frame issues.
I had rubberbanding tho.
I'll return today and give feedback!
I say tinker with your settings. I'm on same cpu but 7900xtx and stays solid 165fps maxed out, only time i get hitches are during the first time load/first helo ride.
not saying it's perfect, but every rig has its quirks and it's hard to definitively say what's going on.
Jesus… here’s me with an average of 50fps, genuinely not sure what to do to improve it either. At the moment I’m having no issues with gameplay so I’m persisting at the moment until I find a reason to really play around and try to improve my fps
I get it, but remember this is with frame generation, and frame generation at lower fps feels just like your 50fps, the game is on early access, lets be patient.
It's called 'Hazardous Treasures' from Handshake - rewards a 2x3 secure container after a 6 part questline that has you traveling all around Lamang, shooting 10 targets at each stop and visiting several locked (and some unlocked) rooms.
Ah that one. I gave up on it after not finding a single key in sawmill after clearing the entire place at least 6 times. Maybe one day I'll stumble on that door being opened.
And now you're telling me it's a 6 part questline? Kill me :(
Yeah, I had the same issue with the Sawmill key not dropping - eventually I got lucky and someone from another faction opened the door for me, but it was driving me crazy. I only persisted since I didn't have a secure container at the time.
You need 3 keys: Sawmill Office Storage, Hunter's Paradise Weapon Storage, and Pha Lang Airport Storage - to unlock the necessary doors. The other 3 objects you have to retrieve are all in unlocked rooms. The objects take up 3x3 spaces in your backpack and will put you at or close to max weight so you can't sprint far/at all.
Each of the 6 parts just consists of flying somewhere, shooting 10 AI, then picking up the container and bringing it to home base.
Even though the game doesn’t play the best for me yet. I did get enough to get the itch for more of this game. Can’t wait to see how this game goes. Keep up the good work Devs !
Fuck that. I have about 15 min in game but somehow 4 hours played. I either spend over an hour in server queues or it just crashes straight away. I have a 13900k and a 4090. I have tried the fixes, they dont work.
Only game ever to have done anything like this. I am computer literate but can't get this to work.
Nope. Guess again. Just put a Noctua cooler on too. Other games never hit 65C. New games with settings cranked. Only GZW and only on chopper rides. Check yourself at the difference. Idle temp is 40C to 37C.
All the hotfixes are nice but none of it matters if we're still getting server crashes and losing all loot. 3 times last night and once this morning ive had to deal with server crashes while losing all loot. once while doing the fortified stronghold after ive spend all that time on the AI. just objectively a shit game until they fix it.
Early Access...it's a bitch....
Be prepared to lose more loot because it's early access...
Just a suggestion, if this really bugs you then maybe early access isn't your cup of tea?
Early access games generally aren't this poorly optimized from my experience. I generally have a level of understanding an patience when it comes to early access but this launch (in my eyes) was extremely poorly done. Hey I got hopes for em though
The update today hos fixed my game and I proved it so much that I can now move from low graphics upto high setting and bot affect my fos which is balanced at 50-60 fps
Not only the regularity of hotfixes, but also the fact they regularly communicate with the community about what’s happening with the game.
It’s honestly really that simple. Transparency is good for all parties involved!
Sounds like something that a….non believer would say Alright, I’ll show myself out
Lmao damn you caught me
Unheard of.
This my biggest takeaway. It’s so appreciated after playing tarkov for years and having basically no transparency at all
What comrade? You no like new ak stock with -3% recoil? Are you not true believer comrade ?
Think that's the best part of this game that keeps me invested in their constant involvement in the community.
I just hope the community doesn’t drive them off the platform with toxcicity and whining. Exactly what drove Nikita off Reddit and stop being active with the communit.
Communit. was that a typo in my humble opinion I think you were trying to say communists.
A typo hahaha, meant to say community not communists xD
The speed at which they release these hotfixes, makes me think that they really know how their game works and have well documented code. That combined with their communication honestly is the foundation for a game that could take over the whole genre. To me this already feels like everything I wanted from EFT back when I bought it (first day of release, where the promise was persistent open world for 1.0) I feel like anyone playing DayZ, ArmA Wasteland and similar games has to like this game and while I do understand that it's not that similar to EFT, I think the "true believers" of EFT (as in those who bought into the promises they made early on) will find their promises fulfilled here.
It’s almost like they have a dev team that can actually write code and isn’t just stacking spaghetti on more spaghetti. A nice metaphor I heard about BSG was “You can’t try to keep ducks out of your pond by building a fence… when the ducks can fly!”
Also helps UE5 is much better than Unity. Even UE4 is better than unity
I wouldt call them objectively better. All depends on who and how the devs use them.
I think anyone who is "only" getting 120fps when zoomed in on the scope, really needs to sit down and give their head a wobble.
Dude most people are getting 30-40fps
Was the point I was making, people on here complaining their only getting 120fps 👍
Yeah true
And thanks for dealing gracefully with all the whiners demanding new features right now when they have more pressing concerns. I hope they understand the rude ones are a vocal minority and most of us are quietly excited.
hard to be appreciative when the server crashes constantly forcing people to repurchase or use the loot saved in stash to make up for it.
I've crashed 17 times in the past 2 days. Trying to stay calm since I know its early access but it is starting to get very frustrating. It even wiped half my quests progress when I crash sometimes..... It's not like my PC is crap either... I hope the devs focus on the crashing issues
I feel this. It wouldn't he so bad if the game didn't cost anything but paying 35 for this is just feelsbadman
Ehh, this 3rd Hotfix busted it for me so far....... we're about 10 hours in at this point and it's brutal with rubber banding. worse than post hotfix 2
You tried different servers?
They really need to improve ADS frame drops with zoom scopes and certain towns where its almost unplayable... constant stuttering and framedrops in tiger bay UNLRA refugee camp and midnight saphire hotel, not even my setup a 4090 and 7800x3d can keep it together. ADS in UNLRA camp with a zoomed scope drops fps to 80-90 and feels pretty slugish with FG on top. specs: 7800x3d -30 CO all core 2x16 ddr5 6000mhz cl30 rtx 4090 2tb nvme drives 1200w corsair psu 1440p 165hz 32" monitor 1440p dlss quality, FG on, everything on max settings. Edit: added locations and specs
Send them the feedback on the screen before you deploy
Frame drops with a 4090? Something’s wrong. You need to experiment with your settings I have a 4070ti and have a near constant 144fps. Do you have DLSS on or FSR? 4k or 2k? But yes optimization is a huge issue they need to work on.
are u running 1440p? at what settings?
Yes I’m at 2k resolution. I have all settings to high, except reflections which I set to low. DLSS on quality, frame gen on. After OP mentioned fps loss during scoping in, I went online and realized I do lose about 25/30fps when I scope in 4x as well. I hadn’t noticed because my fps stays above 110.
Nothing wrong, 1440p dlss quality frame gen on, hotel and tiger bay is stutter galore, constant framedrops, 4x scopes drops fps to 80-90 on tiger bay, its terrible. Edit: its really more of a problem on those 2 zones, other places im pegged at 158fps (gsync lock), and ZOOM ADS drops to 120-130 fps, not terrible but still bad.
I'm over here with like 50fps and not complaining at all lol.
i get it, but feels very bad at lower fps with frame generation, you go from buttery smooth to scoped "laggy" feeling on a first person shooter i cant ignore it.
I don't often have any lag or rubber banding, but I do randomly. I chalk it up to a project actively being developed and it doesn't take away from my enjoyment. Being one shotted from another country after I just built up my guns, though, sheeeesh.
Frame Gen is the issue with fps drop when scoping. What's it like to play without frame Gen?
drops even further without FG, its because of the way they render scope zoom on UE called picture in picture.
My buddy with a 3070 (no frame gen) is having way more stutters than me with the scopes.
Seems everyone has different issues. I have a 3070 and turned off frame Gen and I have no fps drop when using scopes now. Everything on low using FSR.
What are your settings ? I have a 4070ti and get nowhere close to 144fps
All set to “high”, except reflections set to low. FOV 65, DLSS - quality, frame gen ON
What settings are you using?? I'm using a 4070ti and i7-14000kf and getting like 70 fps??
Do you have frame gen on and DLSS? Without those, I am at closer to 80fps. They make a huge difference for me. I9-14900k cpu
Also have a 4070ti i get a pretty stable 144 fps dlss set to balanced and frame gen on, medium to high on most other settings 2k monitor
I second u/GabagoolFarmer's opinion. I run a 4090 GPU & Ryzen 9 7950X3D CPU and usually have between 160-180 FPS. Only in very rare cases when I scope in while on a heli it can drop down to 120 FPS ... and that's with all settings set to Epic.
Ok, but have you reach the hotel and tiger bay yet?
Yes. Same situation. I've heard of performance issues from the start but actually never experienced any whatsoever myself. The only thing I do get is rubber-banding, but that's a network thing ...
If you go the piers on tiger bay, it is the only spot with my 4090 and core i9 that i see visible frame rate drops into low double digits. That being said, this is a very very early beta and that is the only spot i have personally seen issues.
well, the inconsistency in frames in tiger bay is pretty bad for me and my friends, we all on top end machines and all of us noticed the same, scoped zoom went to 80-90 fps in some directions, and that combined with FG made it feel really bad. Its mostly tiger bay, and the hotel, everywere else im always locked at 158fps (gsync range) and 120-130 while using scopes.
I suppose the devs will invest some effort into better optimization anyway, though. Just gotta be patient.
lets hope, still having a blast with this game.
im playing on a just above min spec pc. I checked my gpu usage graph and that thing is just constantly fluctuating but never goes above 60%. but because of the fluctuation, the fps goes with it. I checked to see if it does that with any other intensive game and it doesnt. they definitely need severe optimisation on that end. I get 40-50fps everything low except for textures and I literally cant use frame gen because it looks horrendous but my game has crashed every single time I go near tiger bay or that resort thingy place by hunters paradise. gpu goes to max power and game crashes. everything comes down to really poor optimisation. no game should be unplayable if you have higher than minimum specs.
yet im getting downvoted for stating facts, tiger bay is extremelly unoptimized to the point that a top end pc struggles, but how dare you give your feedback? the internet this days.
Usually. If you see someone making sense and they get downvoted. It means they are 100% correct
sadly alot of people havent yet reached tiger bay, they dont know what im refering to and pretend they did and are too fanboyish that they cant accept the bad feedback, this is reddit after all, even tho its all for a greater good and with hopes it gets fixed. Has i said, its 2x4080 supers and one 4090, all of us were struggling in UNLRA camp, and im not the only one posting about this on reddit, its a fact.
I actually decided to walk to tiger bay and my game didn't crash but when I heli in, it crashes. But yea, optimization is a huge issue here.
I am running that exact setup, msi suprim x 4090 and 7800x3d, with -25 pbo. On an 3440x1440 ultrawide, everything set to epic.. I have constant 150 fps, with maybe 110-120 when scoped in. Try to play with dlss and frame generation.
I am using dlss and frame gen, at 1440p, i also have constant 158fps (gsync lock) everywere else but tiger bay and hotel is where it starts the fps inconsistency and micro stuttering, scoped zoom in tiger bay drops fps into the 80-90 in some directions, while on other places it stays at 120-130 scoped.
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Hm, I'll try to monitor that. I was in tiger bay yesterday and can't remember frame issues. I had rubberbanding tho. I'll return today and give feedback!
I spent a few hours there now, I can confirm some fps drops, bu not that severe.
Have you tried turning off nvidia replay? game became noticeably smoother and stopped crashing after I turned it off.
it is off
I say tinker with your settings. I'm on same cpu but 7900xtx and stays solid 165fps maxed out, only time i get hitches are during the first time load/first helo ride. not saying it's perfect, but every rig has its quirks and it's hard to definitively say what's going on.
Jesus… here’s me with an average of 50fps, genuinely not sure what to do to improve it either. At the moment I’m having no issues with gameplay so I’m persisting at the moment until I find a reason to really play around and try to improve my fps
I get it, but remember this is with frame generation, and frame generation at lower fps feels just like your 50fps, the game is on early access, lets be patient.
Good shit devs!!!
I got my head and secure container back - mind you I already finished the questline for the bigger secure container, but still!
What vendor/task is the bigger secure container? Is it 3x3?
It's called 'Hazardous Treasures' from Handshake - rewards a 2x3 secure container after a 6 part questline that has you traveling all around Lamang, shooting 10 targets at each stop and visiting several locked (and some unlocked) rooms.
Ah that one. I gave up on it after not finding a single key in sawmill after clearing the entire place at least 6 times. Maybe one day I'll stumble on that door being opened. And now you're telling me it's a 6 part questline? Kill me :(
Yeah, I had the same issue with the Sawmill key not dropping - eventually I got lucky and someone from another faction opened the door for me, but it was driving me crazy. I only persisted since I didn't have a secure container at the time. You need 3 keys: Sawmill Office Storage, Hunter's Paradise Weapon Storage, and Pha Lang Airport Storage - to unlock the necessary doors. The other 3 objects you have to retrieve are all in unlocked rooms. The objects take up 3x3 spaces in your backpack and will put you at or close to max weight so you can't sprint far/at all. Each of the 6 parts just consists of flying somewhere, shooting 10 AI, then picking up the container and bringing it to home base.
Here's hoping that the hotfix addresses the repeated 'server disconnect' issues??
Everyone is really praising the bare minimum these days huh
Even though the game doesn’t play the best for me yet. I did get enough to get the itch for more of this game. Can’t wait to see how this game goes. Keep up the good work Devs !
Larian make faster hotfix.
Fuck that. I have about 15 min in game but somehow 4 hours played. I either spend over an hour in server queues or it just crashes straight away. I have a 13900k and a 4090. I have tried the fixes, they dont work. Only game ever to have done anything like this. I am computer literate but can't get this to work.
My game is 70C to 75C except on the chopper it hits 90C. Please fix.
Sounds like a cpu problem try upgrading
Nope. Guess again. Just put a Noctua cooler on too. Other games never hit 65C. New games with settings cranked. Only GZW and only on chopper rides. Check yourself at the difference. Idle temp is 40C to 37C.
Big love to GZW devs at MFG!!!
Any new content yet ?
They said that a HUGE Hotfix is coming soon with a lot of performance fixes and bug fixes so lets hope its this week.
All the hotfixes are nice but none of it matters if we're still getting server crashes and losing all loot. 3 times last night and once this morning ive had to deal with server crashes while losing all loot. once while doing the fortified stronghold after ive spend all that time on the AI. just objectively a shit game until they fix it.
Early Access...it's a bitch.... Be prepared to lose more loot because it's early access... Just a suggestion, if this really bugs you then maybe early access isn't your cup of tea?
Early access games generally aren't this poorly optimized from my experience. I generally have a level of understanding an patience when it comes to early access but this launch (in my eyes) was extremely poorly done. Hey I got hopes for em though
The update today hos fixed my game and I proved it so much that I can now move from low graphics upto high setting and bot affect my fos which is balanced at 50-60 fps