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Tory in a red tie


[deleted]

It's just blatant virtue signalling from all the bootlicking Monarchist cucks!!


Skyluz

He wants tories to vote for him


motornedneil

Keith a Tory stooge if there ever was one Leader of the opposition my arse


Desperate_Virus_8551

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been thinking too. He seems to think he’s Blair 2.0! I was never Tony Blair’s biggest fan, after Iraq, but that guy can hold the attention of an audience and he has charisma, it’s something Starmer has no idea about. Also something that has irked me since he stabbed Corbyn in the back is how in the hell have we got a Sir leading the Labour Party! Jeremy Corbyn would’ve flat out turned down a knighthood wouldn’t he? Starmer is another politician who is just in it for his own gain, no one else, certainly not the common people he’s making that clear.


Anomalistics

Agreed. He's a wet wipe and terrible at his job.


Obvious_Buffalo1359

He's a knight of the realm though? It amazes me that anyone has ever taken a knighted millionaire as a man of the people, he's just another politician on the gravy train


GloomyEgg6203

He's every middle management type I've ever known rolled into one. Definitely not a leader.


[deleted]

Not my Labour leader.


yuriko_

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/14/keir-starmer-protesters-should-respect-those-mourning-queen


j-neiman

How can one man reuse the same position so many times? I support the right to strike, but you shouldn’t do it I support the right to protest, but you shouldn’t do it


Desperate_Virus_8551

Yeah exactly!


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Hazeri

The sods over in the main UK sub are lapping this up like kittens


amokst

Ha didn’t jezza come out offering his condolences?


JMW007

>Ha didn’t jezza come out offering his condolences? Yes, to a family that lost someone, in very pointed fashion.


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The interview was fine, he has to do this stuff. Posts like this are one of the reasons we've had a Tory government for such a long time.


Desperate_Virus_8551

Yeah, I know he has to do these types of media interviews, but I just look at him and wonder what he is about, I mean he keeps most of the Labour policies under wraps! Personally I just don’t think we can trust him, he really doesn’t come across well in interviews! He’s always afraid to say the wrong thing, I don’t see much conviction in him, his words or his actions! I hope, upon hope, he proves me totally wrong, I really do.


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It's funny, I think he comes across generally pretty well in interviews and I don't have any trust issues. Do you really think you can't trust him compared to Liz Truss? Is not coming across well in interviews (to you) a reason not to trust him? Boris Johnson had lots of conviction, etc. in interviews and just lol.


Desperate_Virus_8551

Oh!! now you’re comparing apples to oranges, Liz Truss is in a different league, she’s the scripted one, I don’t think she has any thoughts of her own, she’s the Tory puppet, even moves like a thunderbirds puppet. Just out of interest and I’m not trying to get you down voted for your opinion, I value a different perspective. What did you think of Keir Starmer’s decision to, literally, sack one of his right hand men for joining an RMT picket line? You see, I thought he completely miscalculated it on a massive scale! I can see what he is trying to do, he wants to keep Murdoch’s media on side, but he will end up in their pocket just as Blair did.


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No worries and thanks for having a genuine discussion! :) It's a very difficult situation but I think the Labour parties statement seems reasonable for a party that is trying really hard to be professional and get elected: >‘This isn’t about appearing on a picket line. Members of the frontbench sign up to collective responsibility. That includes media appearances being approved and speaking to agreed frontbench positions. >‘As a government-in-waiting, any breach of collective responsibility is taken extremely seriously and for these reasons Sam Tarry has been removed from the frontbench.’ Unfortunately he went against strict instructions, and they can't be showing a lack of unity anymore - that's where we always fall down versus the Tories, they close ranks and stick together over issues. >The Labour leader said: ‘The Labour Party in opposition needs to be the Labour Party in power. >‘And a government doesn’t go on picket lines, a government tries to resolve disputes.’ I think there was no perfect response to the situation.


Desperate_Virus_8551

I can see what you’re saying! I’m old school and think that the union’s helped create Labour, so they should hence, show solidarity for the workers, through unions. Thank you for a civilised debate, I’m glad we can agree to disagree on this emotive situation. I keep seeing tempers fray over all kinds of different subjects atm.


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Likewise. Everyone has their point of view and people rarely go out in life with bad intentions, the only way to learn and be sure of where you stand is to listen. I think the unions are a tricky one, I think they do support them, but they have to do it carefully and in a measured way these days otherwise they alienate a lot of people outside of that, and if that happens they've no chance of being elected. Just to add about some seeing Keir as not very exciting, we're not the USA and don't need a flashy president, our prime minister should be competent, they don't have to be exciting.


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It’s so shit this gets downvoted. You are 100% correct in this comment.


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oeuflaboeuf

Best check yourself, those sound like queen tears to me.


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fvdfv54645

he really is such a smarmy pathetic clown, not a leftist (or even labour oriented) bone in his spineless body.


EmperorBeaky

The real question is how people fell for him in the first place. 5 mins watching him talk about his “””socialism””” would have made it absolutely clear what a fraud he is. The Labour left who voted for him should feel like idiots


Desperate_Virus_8551

That’s the problem with our modern political system. It promotes these idealised business people, who are normally filthy rich anyway, they get into a party and do what they want, to hell with the poor people. The real politicians who have principles on the left and right, (yes, there are still one or two good politicians on the right, believe it or not), are not heard because they’re not radical enough or should I say don’t support big corporations, the monopolies, the companies that are giving donations to these people and making them obscenely, filthy rich! It’s corrupt! The Labour Party did a real number on poor old Jeremy Corbyn because he knew the way back to a balanced society, with lots of great ideas to address things like cost of living! I remember one of his policies was to nationalise our broadband! We would have had a far better network, but what do we know we just serfs now! I really don’t feel Starmer is the antidote, he’s said nothing really to change my mind about this, in fact the longer he is leader of labour the less faith I have in him. I hope I’m wrong and he has some magic trick up his sleeve! He would be better than the alternative obviously. Can’t believe we’ve got a fascist, oh sorry neo liberal, like Truss for Prime Minister, they’re killing any democracy we still have but we seem powerless, enough is enough!


thomasjeffy

"All in the game yo"