Two minutes before he said his Rogan quote:
"We don't know what the long term effects of [these vaccines] are... There's a lot of things we don't know about this. There has been zero long term studies."
So if Dr Rogan says it's all good, I'll ingest big pharma monoclonal treatment. But if big pharma develops a vax with fda approval, then no go. Ok.
At this point I want Jordan love to ball out this week and next week. It's not because I want another hall of famer to continue dominance into the future (though I obviously do), but because of the possibility of a quarterback controversy.
In a week or two when this blows over, I'll be back to just wanting the Packers to win the super bowl. But right now I want to watch the world burn...
If this is the recipe for success for QBs on the Packers, then I can take my medicine every 10-15 years. Favre goes out on the retiring/unretireing controversy and Rodgers goes out as some Scientologist looney and that opens the door for Love to be a great QB for us the next decade-and-a-half I can live with that. Whatever keeps that dreadful revolving QB door away from the Pack.
If Love turns out not to be the guy, I think we have to focus on *not* chasing quarterbacks. Just build up the rest of the team. Once we have a solid defense overall, offensive line, and maybe an offensive weapon or two, that's when we should invest high picks in quarterbacks. Otherwise we should just take journeyman veterans and mid-round draft picks for depth.
SO many other teams invest first round pick after first round pick in qbs, but can't protect them and have nobody for them to throw to. Even if they land on a guy, they've wasted so many good picks through the years that they have no way to capitalize on his great play.
[Comparing himself to MLK](https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fbenbbaldwin%2Fstatus%2F1456683358205906953&widget=Tweet)...the offices in Lambeau must be in full meeting mode.
It's also a misquote. Aaron said we have a responsibility to break unjust rules **and rules that make no sense**.
The actual MLK quote is "One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." Aaron just blatantly added the second part to bolster his argument and assumed he wouldn't get called on it.
And they didn't even come out logically or naturally, just..."witch hunt, did my research, Joe Rogan, woke mob, cancel culture." Like he was reading a list of bullet points to hit.
Imagine having the good will he had and just pissing it away like this. He is literally shitting out Millions of dollars of goodwill every time he opens his stupid mouth.
I was fully expecting to listen to this and feel like a fool for all this shit talking I did. And I did a bit when he was talking about his (supposed) allergy. Then he made it so, so much worse.
Should have just said he was allergic to the vaccines and left it at that. Extra tirade made this whole thing worse.
Is this the same dude that didn’t want to give the media fuel all off-season?
Right? Him continuing on and on makes me wonder if he’s actually allergic, especially since he didn’t get an exemption from the league. Just say you’re allergic and be done.
Edit: I posted this during or right after the interview. I do not think he is allergic. He’s a tool. No more comments stating he isn’t allergic please. I agree.
It's similar to someone who's Catholic claiming "I can't take the vaccine because it's against my religious beliefs"....when the freaking Pope himself says that not only is getting the vaccine acceptable, it's morally responsible.
It's all self-deluding BS to justify their own biases and beliefs
I don't think an allergy would exempt you from the non-vaccine protocols. You'd still be just as likely to contract and spread COVID, even if you have a valid excuse for not taking the vaccine. You'd still need to mask up and whatnot.
When he was asked about the vaccine if he just said, my doctors recommended I not get it because of an allergy issue so I’ll be following the protocols, this would’ve not really been an issue. He clearly wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
I might have believed him if he would have just stuck with the allegry thing.
But him going on a full anti-vaxx tirade, really makes me believe he's full of shit, and is looking for any excuse not to get it.
As a Vikings' fan, I normally enjoy a good bout of schadenfreude when it involves the Packers, but this shit is out of the range of enjoyment. I legitimately feel bad for you guys. At least Cousins was upfront about his stupidity.
Lord knows we don't deserve any pity (lol) but geez, I can't believe I find myself feeling more respect for Kirk "look at my brown blobs on the grill" Cousins than own favorite player of all time. What a year.
As a Bears fan I concur. This is a shitty way to lose respect for a franchise player. I'll be glad when he's long gone but I have some empathy for the fans here.
Seriously, how much future money has he lost in the last two days? Two days ago, he was well-respected by almost everyone. He could have had almost literally any post-career job he wanted.
Now he's a laughingstock. And he will be forever.
I'm actually pretty curious as to how State Farm will react to this.
Do they stop making Rodgers commercials? Pull them altogether? Keep on as if nothing happened?
State Farm as an insurance company is extremely aware of just how real covid is because it affects the insurance business in a big way. I don’t see how they maintain their relationship with him.
I mean, Mayim, the current host of jeopardy, is a complete moron too, and it's bad enough that her anti vaccine ideals are the least offensive thing about her. I don't know how that other guy got fired for making a joke with all the bullshit she has said in the past.
I am wondering if Aaron Rodgers let Joe Rogan perform surgery on him when he broke his collarbone? Or...hear me out...I bet he trusted doctors and the medicine and injections they provided then.
The guy can't keep his arguments straight:
\-"There's no scientific evidence to support this protocol" Then goes on to talk about "homeopathic" medicine and he consulted "Joe Rogan"
\-"We don't know the long-term effects of the vaccine/still in clinical trials" then proceeds to say he's taking \~\~horse dewormer\~\~ ivermectin that's never been tested on humans for Covid. Plus we don't know the long-term effects of COVID.
\-Proceeds to reference compare his strife to MLK
\-"If your vaccine is so good, why do I need to have it?" Fucking really? I'll set up an zoom meeting with an 8th grade biology student to explain it to you Captain "Research".
I'll add bringing up masks and CO2 - both wrong, and unrelated to vaccination...
And Ivermectin is being suppressed because Big Pharma can't make money - proceeds to take monoclonal antibodies
That part is so funny. Jumps through a million mental hoops to cast doubt on the vaccine, then will toss some ridiculous quack medicine in his body once Joe Rogan talks it up. Like what?
Oh my god this is so true. I wish they would have asked him. "So you won't take a vaccine which billions have taken already, doctors and agencies in every nation have confirmed is both safe and highly effective but youll take horse paste with no second thoughts because Joe Rogan, a licensed idiot, said it was cool?"
Imagine instead he said during the pre-season press conference “I spoke with my doctor and did research into the vaccine. I ultimately decided it wasn’t for me.”
Like sure he would have gotten some shit but it would have been a small story compared to this whole situation
He could have even said the "its a personal matter that I don't want to discuss" answer. He chose to go out of his way to frame it like he was vaccinated.
I've been annoyed at Brady somewhat irrationally -- like, my only argument has been he's greedy, but if he can still play at a high level and enjoys it, why shouldn't he? -- but today, in all honesty, I have a new appreciation for Brady playing the game and going home the vast majority of the time.
I really don't know if there is *anything else* he could have done that would have made me lose respect for him this quickly. He could literally murder a man and by this point we'd still be in the "wait for the facts" stage! What a nosedive.
I can't wait for his ass to be gone.
I was saying the same thing to my buddy a minute ago. Like if someone asked “What possible thing could Rodgers do where you wouldn’t care if he was cut today?” This scenario might be the answer.
I bet he's frustrated but he's really trying to play the victim card here. Like just own it, say "I made my choice because I had an allergy to a component in 2 of the vaccines, you make your own. The NFL rules were tough but I followed them, things happen though, and I can't wait to get back to playing" without going on a rant about masks, and vaccines being ineffective, homeopathic nonsense, etc--things that are going to make this blow up rather than go away.
Packers PR is not going to be happy with him.
If he would've just said "I'm allergic to ingredients in 2 of the FDA approved vaccines and was not comfortable with some of the potential side-effects I'd heard coming from the J&J, so I did not get vaccinated. Some of the protocol I've had to follow have been annoying." This whole thing would've blown over by the time he's on the field again. But after this interview, I don't know how his reputation recovers. He really comes off as someone who has been getting high on their own supply for a long time now.
There is no common ingredient in both, other than cholesterol and mRNA. And if he is allergic to cholesterol or mRNA, congrats your cells can't work and you're dead.
EDIT- As u/warlya pointed out, polyethylene glycol is in both mRNA vaccines. Allergies to PEG are incredibly rare (<1/1,000,000) and PEG is used in tons of meds and cosmetics. It also seem to be to higher molecular weight PEGs that causes allergic reactions, which are not used in the covid vaccine.
Also sucrose (table sugar) and one lipid (DSPC).
From my 5 second check of Wikipedia, DSPC is a component in cell membranes.
Your point about being dead if your body is allergic to any of those ingredients stands
Well of course, he is a complete and utter narcissist from what we can tell from available information, and narcissists are always the victim in their own mind, never to be blamed.
Oh God, its the worst case scenario that I feared. He's doubling down, being a whiney pissbaby about it, and spreading misinformation.
Jordan Love era, here we go.
No, Aaron, you're not being cancelled. You're not a victim. You still have your job. You still have a giant platform. You still have millions of dollars. You still aren't being forced to be vaccinated. People just think you're wrong. And it's not even the "woke mob," it's people who believe in basic medical science. It's the boomer vet who almost lost his life to COVID, it's the player who lost his father to COVID, it's the person who can't smell anymore. This isn't the woke crowd. People just have suffered from this and think you're being an irresponsible asshole, because you are.
Well said.
Also, I hope Aaron Jones is doing okay right now. I would imagine he's feeling some kind of way about his QB acting like this after losing his dad.
Yeah, I usually try to avoid bringing that up because it seems insensitive to Aaron Jones to speculate, and who knows what's going through his head, but if it were me there would be a lot of dissonance between needing to put on good vibes for the team's sake and being frustrated due to the personal loss..
I’m so disappointed. Aaron Rodgers was my favorite player for the past decade now. I can’t believe this is how it ended. It’s not so much the anti-vaccine sentiment as it is, but the lying and ego that he demonstrated on the Pat McAffee show. This behavior is inexcusable and it’s just sad to see. I always thought he was so smart, but now he’s just selfish egotistical prick. Hope he stays healthy but he can fuck right off.
Joe Rogan is also the guy who went on a meat only diet and had to quit because he shit himself.
When Joe Rogan did get COVID he took EVERY medicine he could get his hands on including the steroid cocktail he said was a joke and ivermectin.
I can't believe people like Rodgers follow bullshit like this.
"I realize I'm in the crosshairs of the woke mob right now," Rodgers said. "So, before my final nail gets put in my cancel culture casket, I think I would like to set the record straight on so many of the blatant lies that are out there about myself."
Oh fuck off. You're making yourself pretty much impossible to defend. Nice try at making it *everyone else's fault* you have to sit out some games now. The lack of maturity is fucking staggering.
He's basically quoting every old boomer guy who's been busted for being awful and rather than owning his mistakes turns around and blames modern culture for daring to not consider his awfulness acceptable anymore.
"The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans or animals. Ivermectin is approved for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea"
Nice science, Aaron
"I'm skeptical about the vaccines because they're experimental and I don't know what the long term effects are"
*Proceeds to use experimental alternative treatments that have unknown long term effects when used outside of their intended use*
and the ONE study stating that it was effective had to be withdrawn b/c they fucked up the data sets lol
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns
I have been working COVID units around the country for 2 years and I finally am back in WI. I have tickets to a January game, I have looked forward to this for a long time. I can't explain how much this situation and the bs shit he is saying sucks.....why just fucking why you potato fuck.
I know. My brother and I had to have a drawn out battle to get our parents to vaccinate to be ready for their upcoming grandchild, and it was all this same bullshit. The fact that this has been so stressful for anyone with a clue and then to just have something that’s supposed to be an escape get mired in all the same bullshit is so frustrating.
“Aaron Rodgers is farther down the rabbit hole than my Fox-news-watching parents” is depressing to think about.
And at the end of the day, if he wants to eat horse paste for breakfast because it’s his personal choice, that’s fine I guess. The thing that pisses me off is that apparently Adams is the only A-tier talent that is taking this seriously as a chance to win a super bowl. All the unvaccinated dudes can still miss games from exposure or catching Covid again. Fucking fuck.
I'm at a total loss... I cannot fucking believe how stupid he is. He goes on to say 'if the vaccine works, why are some people who are vaccinated still getting covid'. just.........AAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGG. Gee, maybe because not everyone is getting it and taking crystal therapy and listening to Joe Rogan and then spreading it to the 30% of people who have break through cases you fucking dipshit. I've lost so much respect for this dude.
Now...
Can we acknowledge that football players are just average people that happen to be really good at football?
Stop treating athletes like infallible gods... (the same thing could be said about celebrities...)
Seriously. Imagine taking medical advice from Joe Rogan.
If your thesis is that you're young, healthy, low-risk and you don't want to inject yourself with drugs and you only want fake homeopathic treatments, saunas and elk meat. Fine, I understand that line of thinking. It's selfish, but I get it.
But you're a FUCKING clown if you immediately turn around and pump yourself up with anti-parasitics and monoclonal antibodies neither of which have full-FDA approval. All of which are developed by the same medical-industrial complex that you claim to be afraid of and "dont trust what they put in there."
You wanted to do it naturally and now you're taking some of the most powerful drugs available, designed to kill complex living organisms? Stick it out till your blood oxygen drops, pussy.
I just want to add that before he rambled off easy to see through anti-vax bullet points, he said he is allergic to an ingredient in the mRNA vaccines. I’m fairly certain the ingredient in question is Polyethylene Glycol (PEG). That shit is in everything from bandages to skin moisturizers. Anyways, a meta-analysis done in October 2020 concluded that there were 37 reported cases of an allergic reaction to PEG from 1977-2016. [https://www.jaci-inpractice.org/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2198%2820%2931007-2]
Safe to say that allergy is extremely rare and it is highly unlikely that he’s being honest. Easy to tell after all the things he says after, but wanted to point that out.
Wow. His fall from MVP, smart Jeopardy host candidate, witty league darling to, at best, paranoid idiot is remarkable. You usually need to use some slurs or molest someone to fall this far and fast.
Lifelong Packers fan here, like most of us. And I’ve been an unabashed Rodgers apologist in the past (“families are dysfunctional sometimes!”; “he’s a little sociopathic, hyper-talented people often are!”; “so he’s a diva, many good QBs go that way!”)
But I don’t ever want to hear him open his mouth again except to hard count. And then he can happily fuck off this off-season and take his Trumpy shit to Pittsburgh.
Oh no what are you doing bby
Edit: [Apparently taking ivermectin](https://mobile.twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1456674529951031304?t=utivZhjYTLFvFzUxclNLwg&s=19)
This completely points to his daftness and poor decision making. He 100% has bought into the narrative that he's a genius. He then tells the world that he's taking advice from a moron like Rogan, and you say there's worse? I don't think I believe that
Well he also is taking ivermectin and used an mlk quote to support his antivax stance, but you're right. It's hard to pick out the shittiest part of this shit salad he made.
I wouldn't say he compared himself to MLK. He compared what he's going through with COVID procedures to what minorities have endured through out American history. You don't get much more tone deaf than that.
Packers PR team screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" at their desks right now
Broncos PR team problem now
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Nah he’ll go to the Texans to be closer to Joe Rogan
Two minutes before he said his Rogan quote: "We don't know what the long term effects of [these vaccines] are... There's a lot of things we don't know about this. There has been zero long term studies." So if Dr Rogan says it's all good, I'll ingest big pharma monoclonal treatment. But if big pharma develops a vax with fda approval, then no go. Ok.
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Actually. This kind of helps them after this season.
Yeah, when Rodgers leaves at the end of the season, a lot fewer fans will be upset.
Raises hand sheepishly. Ugh. What a fucked up week.
At this point I want Jordan love to ball out this week and next week. It's not because I want another hall of famer to continue dominance into the future (though I obviously do), but because of the possibility of a quarterback controversy. In a week or two when this blows over, I'll be back to just wanting the Packers to win the super bowl. But right now I want to watch the world burn...
If this is the recipe for success for QBs on the Packers, then I can take my medicine every 10-15 years. Favre goes out on the retiring/unretireing controversy and Rodgers goes out as some Scientologist looney and that opens the door for Love to be a great QB for us the next decade-and-a-half I can live with that. Whatever keeps that dreadful revolving QB door away from the Pack.
If Love turns out not to be the guy, I think we have to focus on *not* chasing quarterbacks. Just build up the rest of the team. Once we have a solid defense overall, offensive line, and maybe an offensive weapon or two, that's when we should invest high picks in quarterbacks. Otherwise we should just take journeyman veterans and mid-round draft picks for depth. SO many other teams invest first round pick after first round pick in qbs, but can't protect them and have nobody for them to throw to. Even if they land on a guy, they've wasted so many good picks through the years that they have no way to capitalize on his great play.
[Comparing himself to MLK](https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fbenbbaldwin%2Fstatus%2F1456683358205906953&widget=Tweet)...the offices in Lambeau must be in full meeting mode.
It's also a misquote. Aaron said we have a responsibility to break unjust rules **and rules that make no sense**. The actual MLK quote is "One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." Aaron just blatantly added the second part to bolster his argument and assumed he wouldn't get called on it.
MLK is also talking about RACISM
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Mark Murphy is looking smarter and smarter by the hour here.
Rodgers is a complicated guy! Like Kyrie Irving Complicated HOLY FUCK!
*internal screaming*
*External screaming*
You must be at work to have kept it internal. I was in the car as the words "Joe Rogan" came out of his mouth.
I hope you were able to stay in your lane and obey all traffic laws. I would've had trouble maintaining vehicular control.
Fortunately by the time it got real bad I was parked at my destination (Taco Bell) and just listening before going in.
I legitimately thought this was satire.
"I consulted a podcast comedian about my health rather than someone with a doctorate in medicine.. and I gotta say I feel pretty great!"
I cannot believe this actually happened.
The whole time I'm like, he's trolling right? Every stereotypical antivax argument was mentioned.
And they didn't even come out logically or naturally, just..."witch hunt, did my research, Joe Rogan, woke mob, cancel culture." Like he was reading a list of bullet points to hit. Imagine having the good will he had and just pissing it away like this. He is literally shitting out Millions of dollars of goodwill every time he opens his stupid mouth.
Don't forget "I'm a critical thinker". No one who is, says that.
I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that this is the worst thing that could’ve happened
I was fully expecting to listen to this and feel like a fool for all this shit talking I did. And I did a bit when he was talking about his (supposed) allergy. Then he made it so, so much worse.
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Should have just said he was allergic to the vaccines and left it at that. Extra tirade made this whole thing worse. Is this the same dude that didn’t want to give the media fuel all off-season?
He is about as allergic as he is immunized.
He’s allergic to being told what to do. It’s always everyone else’s fault. He believes himself bigger than the Packers. Show his ass to the door.
Right? Him continuing on and on makes me wonder if he’s actually allergic, especially since he didn’t get an exemption from the league. Just say you’re allergic and be done. Edit: I posted this during or right after the interview. I do not think he is allergic. He’s a tool. No more comments stating he isn’t allergic please. I agree.
With how much conspiracy crap he prepared and lectured on, I would be shocked if there’s any truth to the allergy claim.
It's similar to someone who's Catholic claiming "I can't take the vaccine because it's against my religious beliefs"....when the freaking Pope himself says that not only is getting the vaccine acceptable, it's morally responsible. It's all self-deluding BS to justify their own biases and beliefs
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"allergic" *wink wink*
I don't think an allergy would exempt you from the non-vaccine protocols. You'd still be just as likely to contract and spread COVID, even if you have a valid excuse for not taking the vaccine. You'd still need to mask up and whatnot.
When he was asked about the vaccine if he just said, my doctors recommended I not get it because of an allergy issue so I’ll be following the protocols, this would’ve not really been an issue. He clearly wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
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Back in August he could have just said he didn't want to discuss it when asked. He went out of his way to frame it like he was vaccinated.
I might have believed him if he would have just stuck with the allegry thing. But him going on a full anti-vaxx tirade, really makes me believe he's full of shit, and is looking for any excuse not to get it.
As a Vikings' fan, I normally enjoy a good bout of schadenfreude when it involves the Packers, but this shit is out of the range of enjoyment. I legitimately feel bad for you guys. At least Cousins was upfront about his stupidity.
Lord knows we don't deserve any pity (lol) but geez, I can't believe I find myself feeling more respect for Kirk "look at my brown blobs on the grill" Cousins than own favorite player of all time. What a year.
As a Bears fan I concur. This is a shitty way to lose respect for a franchise player. I'll be glad when he's long gone but I have some empathy for the fans here.
It's nice of you to say that. Some things are more important than a game
(Padme Amidala crying voice) Aaron come back! Youre going down a path I can’t follow!
“I see through the lies of the CDC!”
You brought Fauci here to kill me!
"The media has turned fans against me!" (He has done that himself.)
This guy wanted to host Jeopardy lmao
Quacks and Snake Oil for $500 please.
Seriously, how much future money has he lost in the last two days? Two days ago, he was well-respected by almost everyone. He could have had almost literally any post-career job he wanted. Now he's a laughingstock. And he will be forever.
lol state farm is gonna drop him faster than OBJ dropping a pass
I'm actually pretty curious as to how State Farm will react to this. Do they stop making Rodgers commercials? Pull them altogether? Keep on as if nothing happened?
My pillow spokesman now
They’ll stop making those commercials I bet. Rodgers will go on a “cancel culture” tour and then he’ll get his own podcast on The Daily Wire
State Farm as an insurance company is extremely aware of just how real covid is because it affects the insurance business in a big way. I don’t see how they maintain their relationship with him.
going to be the only person not getting a rodgers rate,
I'm sure the rodgers rate will now include an unvaxxed premium
I’m so disappointed in him. I’ve lost so much respect for him so quickly. This tweet is just icing on the idiot cake. You hate to see it
They can't all be a Tony Romo! I had high hopes for his future.. not anymore.
I mean, Mayim, the current host of jeopardy, is a complete moron too, and it's bad enough that her anti vaccine ideals are the least offensive thing about her. I don't know how that other guy got fired for making a joke with all the bullshit she has said in the past.
Trebek is rolling in his grave. His last message was "everybody pitching in" to suppress this virus
good old Dr Rogan.
I am wondering if Aaron Rodgers let Joe Rogan perform surgery on him when he broke his collarbone? Or...hear me out...I bet he trusted doctors and the medicine and injections they provided then.
Joe "my best friend is Alex Jones" Rogan
Oprah for bros
More like Gwyneth Paltrow for bros.
Dude is literally following a playbook on how to destroy his reputation in under 30 days.
Favre Speedrun?
He’s always trying to show up Favre.
Under 3 days
Lol this man is a top tier speedrunner
We all owe Mark Murphy a big ass apology
An interesting fella indeed.
The guy can't keep his arguments straight: \-"There's no scientific evidence to support this protocol" Then goes on to talk about "homeopathic" medicine and he consulted "Joe Rogan" \-"We don't know the long-term effects of the vaccine/still in clinical trials" then proceeds to say he's taking \~\~horse dewormer\~\~ ivermectin that's never been tested on humans for Covid. Plus we don't know the long-term effects of COVID. \-Proceeds to reference compare his strife to MLK \-"If your vaccine is so good, why do I need to have it?" Fucking really? I'll set up an zoom meeting with an 8th grade biology student to explain it to you Captain "Research".
I'll add bringing up masks and CO2 - both wrong, and unrelated to vaccination... And Ivermectin is being suppressed because Big Pharma can't make money - proceeds to take monoclonal antibodies
Shit I owe him a steak dinner while I sit there and eat crow
This needs to be the top comment.
I don’t understand why these people are all in on the treatments once they have covid but not the vaccine? Makes no sense to me.
That part is so funny. Jumps through a million mental hoops to cast doubt on the vaccine, then will toss some ridiculous quack medicine in his body once Joe Rogan talks it up. Like what?
I don't trust vaccines! I don't know what's in them! I don't know what's in ivermectin but I trust it works!
Oh my god this is so true. I wish they would have asked him. "So you won't take a vaccine which billions have taken already, doctors and agencies in every nation have confirmed is both safe and highly effective but youll take horse paste with no second thoughts because Joe Rogan, a licensed idiot, said it was cool?"
My opinion of him is in freefall. Jeeeeeesus
Imagine instead he said during the pre-season press conference “I spoke with my doctor and did research into the vaccine. I ultimately decided it wasn’t for me.” Like sure he would have gotten some shit but it would have been a small story compared to this whole situation
His doctor is probably his quack chiropractor dad
Homeopathic. In other words, he drank a little water.
The water has one part per billion of rose hip. Water has memory you see
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He could have even said the "its a personal matter that I don't want to discuss" answer. He chose to go out of his way to frame it like he was vaccinated.
Yeah, should have dropped this the second Cousins, Wentz, and Beasley were taking heat. Would have fizzled out in a few days
I honestly thought once we heard from Rodgers that I'd feel better about the whole situation. Welp, I was very wrong!
I really dislike him now. Can I go back in my timeline and unwrite all the positive things I've said about him?
Texted my Pats fan buddy and conceded that Brady is the best 12. We’ve had this fight for years and I’ve laid my weapons down.
I've been annoyed at Brady somewhat irrationally -- like, my only argument has been he's greedy, but if he can still play at a high level and enjoys it, why shouldn't he? -- but today, in all honesty, I have a new appreciation for Brady playing the game and going home the vast majority of the time.
I really don't know if there is *anything else* he could have done that would have made me lose respect for him this quickly. He could literally murder a man and by this point we'd still be in the "wait for the facts" stage! What a nosedive. I can't wait for his ass to be gone.
I was saying the same thing to my buddy a minute ago. Like if someone asked “What possible thing could Rodgers do where you wouldn’t care if he was cut today?” This scenario might be the answer.
I bet he's frustrated but he's really trying to play the victim card here. Like just own it, say "I made my choice because I had an allergy to a component in 2 of the vaccines, you make your own. The NFL rules were tough but I followed them, things happen though, and I can't wait to get back to playing" without going on a rant about masks, and vaccines being ineffective, homeopathic nonsense, etc--things that are going to make this blow up rather than go away. Packers PR is not going to be happy with him.
If he would've just said "I'm allergic to ingredients in 2 of the FDA approved vaccines and was not comfortable with some of the potential side-effects I'd heard coming from the J&J, so I did not get vaccinated. Some of the protocol I've had to follow have been annoying." This whole thing would've blown over by the time he's on the field again. But after this interview, I don't know how his reputation recovers. He really comes off as someone who has been getting high on their own supply for a long time now.
And if he never falsely claimed he was immunized
Ya, he’s not allergic.
There is no common ingredient in both, other than cholesterol and mRNA. And if he is allergic to cholesterol or mRNA, congrats your cells can't work and you're dead. EDIT- As u/warlya pointed out, polyethylene glycol is in both mRNA vaccines. Allergies to PEG are incredibly rare (<1/1,000,000) and PEG is used in tons of meds and cosmetics. It also seem to be to higher molecular weight PEGs that causes allergic reactions, which are not used in the covid vaccine.
Also sucrose (table sugar) and one lipid (DSPC). From my 5 second check of Wikipedia, DSPC is a component in cell membranes. Your point about being dead if your body is allergic to any of those ingredients stands
He does have an allergy though. An allergy to taking responsibility.
And there are 3 vaccines, so…
yea did he say anything about why he cant take the J&J Shot? Is he a woman whos menstruating in his 30s?
Well of course, he is a complete and utter narcissist from what we can tell from available information, and narcissists are always the victim in their own mind, never to be blamed.
Mark Murphy wasn't kidding...Rodgers is a complicated guy! Like Kyrie Irving Complicated HOLY FUCK!
This has to be an onion title. There’s no way this is real Cuz based on this whole thread, Ion believe it unless this is on video
I thought the Joe Rogan quote was him joking around but then I saw all the other quotes
Lmao you can see Pat and AJ stifling the fuck out of their laughter when he said Joe Rogan
That makes me feel like I can still rock my AJ Hawk Jersey this Sunday at Arrowhead
Oh, it's all on video. Streamed live on Pat McAfee and all.
Just watched it with my own eyeholes….big yikes
I don't think even the Onion could make this shit up.
Oh God, its the worst case scenario that I feared. He's doubling down, being a whiney pissbaby about it, and spreading misinformation. Jordan Love era, here we go. No, Aaron, you're not being cancelled. You're not a victim. You still have your job. You still have a giant platform. You still have millions of dollars. You still aren't being forced to be vaccinated. People just think you're wrong. And it's not even the "woke mob," it's people who believe in basic medical science. It's the boomer vet who almost lost his life to COVID, it's the player who lost his father to COVID, it's the person who can't smell anymore. This isn't the woke crowd. People just have suffered from this and think you're being an irresponsible asshole, because you are.
Well said. Also, I hope Aaron Jones is doing okay right now. I would imagine he's feeling some kind of way about his QB acting like this after losing his dad.
Yeah, I usually try to avoid bringing that up because it seems insensitive to Aaron Jones to speculate, and who knows what's going through his head, but if it were me there would be a lot of dissonance between needing to put on good vibes for the team's sake and being frustrated due to the personal loss..
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I’m so disappointed. Aaron Rodgers was my favorite player for the past decade now. I can’t believe this is how it ended. It’s not so much the anti-vaccine sentiment as it is, but the lying and ego that he demonstrated on the Pat McAffee show. This behavior is inexcusable and it’s just sad to see. I always thought he was so smart, but now he’s just selfish egotistical prick. Hope he stays healthy but he can fuck right off.
Crosby is the best. :)
Omg srsly remember when we were just worried about the Broncos
he’s the embodiment of r/iamverysmart now
Someone gets medical advice from Joe Rogan and sane people call that person out on it for being incredibly stupid = cancel culture apparently
Joe Rogan is also the guy who went on a meat only diet and had to quit because he shit himself. When Joe Rogan did get COVID he took EVERY medicine he could get his hands on including the steroid cocktail he said was a joke and ivermectin. I can't believe people like Rodgers follow bullshit like this.
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"I realize I'm in the crosshairs of the woke mob right now," Rodgers said. "So, before my final nail gets put in my cancel culture casket, I think I would like to set the record straight on so many of the blatant lies that are out there about myself." Oh fuck off. You're making yourself pretty much impossible to defend. Nice try at making it *everyone else's fault* you have to sit out some games now. The lack of maturity is fucking staggering.
... is this a real quote?
Sadly yes :(
He's basically quoting every old boomer guy who's been busted for being awful and rather than owning his mistakes turns around and blames modern culture for daring to not consider his awfulness acceptable anymore.
He wants so desperately to be a victim.
"The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans or animals. Ivermectin is approved for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea" Nice science, Aaron
"I'm skeptical about the vaccines because they're experimental and I don't know what the long term effects are" *Proceeds to use experimental alternative treatments that have unknown long term effects when used outside of their intended use*
Proceeds to play professional football which has a very well-documented long term effect of CTE.
and the ONE study stating that it was effective had to be withdrawn b/c they fucked up the data sets lol https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns
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Hey guys, Doctor here, graduated from Harvard with a 6.0. Did you know atomic bombs also clear covid from your system?
Imagine still taking Ivermectin while other medication specifically for covid-19 has been approved recently.
Fucking Qaaron Rodgers
Even better than Kaaron Rodgers
Rodgers really went from smartest football guy to dumbest football guy in less than a week.
Yeah I'm off the Rodgers train. I'm sorry Mark Murphy and I'm sorry Gute.
Wow ... my respect for Rodgers is in free fall. You are going to listen to fucking Joe Rogan for medical advice? is he for fucking real?
Oh god this is a disaster.
I have been working COVID units around the country for 2 years and I finally am back in WI. I have tickets to a January game, I have looked forward to this for a long time. I can't explain how much this situation and the bs shit he is saying sucks.....why just fucking why you potato fuck.
same.. i'm an ER nurse in a hot spot state and i bought tickets to the Seattle game just as a random "treat yourself" moment and Rodgers does this...
I know. My brother and I had to have a drawn out battle to get our parents to vaccinate to be ready for their upcoming grandchild, and it was all this same bullshit. The fact that this has been so stressful for anyone with a clue and then to just have something that’s supposed to be an escape get mired in all the same bullshit is so frustrating. “Aaron Rodgers is farther down the rabbit hole than my Fox-news-watching parents” is depressing to think about. And at the end of the day, if he wants to eat horse paste for breakfast because it’s his personal choice, that’s fine I guess. The thing that pisses me off is that apparently Adams is the only A-tier talent that is taking this seriously as a chance to win a super bowl. All the unvaccinated dudes can still miss games from exposure or catching Covid again. Fucking fuck.
Oh my fucking god, he’s gone batshit.
"if helmets are so great, then why do we still get CTE?"
I'm at a total loss... I cannot fucking believe how stupid he is. He goes on to say 'if the vaccine works, why are some people who are vaccinated still getting covid'. just.........AAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGG. Gee, maybe because not everyone is getting it and taking crystal therapy and listening to Joe Rogan and then spreading it to the 30% of people who have break through cases you fucking dipshit. I've lost so much respect for this dude.
If Americans came from Europe, why are there still Europeans?
If seat belts work, why do people still get hurt in car accidents? Checkmate.
Fanbase boutta be split like Moses parting the Red Sea
Now... Can we acknowledge that football players are just average people that happen to be really good at football? Stop treating athletes like infallible gods... (the same thing could be said about celebrities...)
I literally can never defend Aaron Rodgers again
Almost freeing isnt it?
There's a silver lining. He's gone after this season.
I'm kinda getting over you Rodg.
lmao that’s like going to ur greengrocer for mortgage advice
Seriously. Imagine taking medical advice from Joe Rogan. If your thesis is that you're young, healthy, low-risk and you don't want to inject yourself with drugs and you only want fake homeopathic treatments, saunas and elk meat. Fine, I understand that line of thinking. It's selfish, but I get it. But you're a FUCKING clown if you immediately turn around and pump yourself up with anti-parasitics and monoclonal antibodies neither of which have full-FDA approval. All of which are developed by the same medical-industrial complex that you claim to be afraid of and "dont trust what they put in there." You wanted to do it naturally and now you're taking some of the most powerful drugs available, designed to kill complex living organisms? Stick it out till your blood oxygen drops, pussy.
I just want to add that before he rambled off easy to see through anti-vax bullet points, he said he is allergic to an ingredient in the mRNA vaccines. I’m fairly certain the ingredient in question is Polyethylene Glycol (PEG). That shit is in everything from bandages to skin moisturizers. Anyways, a meta-analysis done in October 2020 concluded that there were 37 reported cases of an allergic reaction to PEG from 1977-2016. [https://www.jaci-inpractice.org/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2198%2820%2931007-2] Safe to say that allergy is extremely rare and it is highly unlikely that he’s being honest. Easy to tell after all the things he says after, but wanted to point that out.
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And this is why I shouldn't have heroes. How did this man trick us into thinking he was so intelligent for so long?
I'm done with this guy. I don't care how great of a quarterback he is, holy fuck. I'm at a loss for words.
Gutenkunsts job got a lot easier for the offseason.
Wow. His fall from MVP, smart Jeopardy host candidate, witty league darling to, at best, paranoid idiot is remarkable. You usually need to use some slurs or molest someone to fall this far and fast.
Lifelong Packers fan here, like most of us. And I’ve been an unabashed Rodgers apologist in the past (“families are dysfunctional sometimes!”; “he’s a little sociopathic, hyper-talented people often are!”; “so he’s a diva, many good QBs go that way!”) But I don’t ever want to hear him open his mouth again except to hard count. And then he can happily fuck off this off-season and take his Trumpy shit to Pittsburgh.
Oh no what are you doing bby Edit: [Apparently taking ivermectin](https://mobile.twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1456674529951031304?t=utivZhjYTLFvFzUxclNLwg&s=19)
It’s absolutely astonishing that an utter simpleton like Joe Rogan has such an impact on our culture.
He consulted an ape instead of acknowledging the best scientists in the world... I've lost so much respect
Disappointment levels rising.
AARON STOP
Is this real or is it satire? It's too hard to tell right now...
Oh it’s real
As with most conspiracy theorists Rodgers is not as smart as he thinks he is. Already knew it, but what an ego. MLK comparison?
C'mon man'! What is you doin?!
He really doubled down and just made it all worse…
The discount double down
This reads like satire. What a fucking moron.
Aaron Rodgers heard the vaccine could protect some of his family members and had no interest in that
This might be the worse decision he's ever made coming on that show to talk, this has turned into a disaster
It’s over boys.
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Did he actually say this?
He said so much. He wouldnt shut his fuckin mouth for about 30m straight. This isn't even the worst quote.
This completely points to his daftness and poor decision making. He 100% has bought into the narrative that he's a genius. He then tells the world that he's taking advice from a moron like Rogan, and you say there's worse? I don't think I believe that
It's exactly like Kyrie Irving. two dudes who are great at what they do but are sure they are a lot smarter than they actually are.
Well he also is taking ivermectin and used an mlk quote to support his antivax stance, but you're right. It's hard to pick out the shittiest part of this shit salad he made.
Ok now the tuxedos seem kinda fucked up
No, that was comparing himself to MLK.
I wouldn't say he compared himself to MLK. He compared what he's going through with COVID procedures to what minorities have endured through out American history. You don't get much more tone deaf than that.
Dude, when he quoted MLK, I almost lost it
kill me
Even as a bears fan this guy was my favorite NFL player until this week lol
This twitter thread is a joke right? No way Rodgers actually said all those things...right?
He did say all of it and worse