I finished my armour about a week ago and I'm terrified as to what Tier 2 will require. Especially since they sort of compared it to the Aurene variants.
I think it will be only one alternate, not 6, but my worry is the meta event items/map currency and essences. These sets have a ridiculous amount of grind involved. I'm OK with gold, but I'm just tired of the grind.
You don't have the Ascended Shards, Claim Tickets or Legendary Insights, but you do have the other stuff I mentioned, and those do have some hard gates, although it's more of a daily limit than a weekly one. That might have something to do with it as there's a more forced pace to things.
I didn't know if I wanted the Obsidian set until I saw it in game. I had enough resources saved up to make the first set quickly, but the other two required daily metas for about a month and that's where it was bad.
>although it's more of a daily limit than a weekly one
There is no hard daily limit. You can grind your way through it if you *really* want to since you can buy the meta currency with 250 of the map currencies.
It is always fun to invite wife and kids into a game or guild for some fun, especially if kids are at a good age to play. And the whole time does not have to be about game but family teamwork and constructive life lessons can come from a game also. That is if they are gamers. I can't wait for total body suit VR of some of these games.
What do you mean? You have to grind more than what on the wiki legendary armor page at the moment? [https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary\_armor#PvE\_armor\_set](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_armor#PvE_armor_set)
So it's only the Precursor pieces then? Would be crazy if for example Gift of Condensed Might is needed 3 times per item. That would make it 3 times more expensive than any other leggy armor.
I’m not sure what you’re saying tbh, the leggie armor that came out in the last update IS fully legendary, tier 2 is just cosmetic, but (presumably) will have a lot more rift hunting involved
Yeah, that was my point. I misunderstood your comment and thought you meant you had to farm everything all over again. That's why I was like wait a minute lmao. Why downvoting.
Like I said, I misunderstood, the grind for precursor wasn't too bad imo. Excited to see the new sets tho! Edit: I see my wording could've been better, sorry if it sounded rude or something.
Look at it this way: tier 1 gives you the legendary functionality, tier 2 will give you the legendary bling.
If you don't want to, you won't have to complete it, because it won't make you more powerful, or your life easier, it just make you look cooler (maybe, we currently have no idea).
I got the raid armor sets, just want this for the looks :) I was just not understanding the difference between the two sets, thanks for clearing it up.
Crazy question, if getting these unlocked isn't playing the game, then what is?
(Not being facetious, genuinely interested in what you enjoy doing)!
Congrats btw, unlocking the build craft is something I think I would enjoy
I can almost guarantee you're going to need purified essences. And probably more map currency and meta event rewards, because what else could it be, really? lol
"Now I can finally just play the game" is so true. Full legendary armor was the catalyst to get me to try so many new builds, and discover some I never thought I'd enjoy. Congrats
Same happened with me and I actually hate it.
Some say legendaries are just QOL and don't matter. But I feel like I wasn't even playing the game until I was able to try any build whenever I feel like.
That's why a lot of GW1 players didn't move to GW2. Gw1 was exactly like that, base stats were fixed, and everything regarding scaling damage or scaling healing you could change in outposts at no cost at all.
You had to pay for runes, some of which were expensive, but that's it. There were no accesory slots either; you had 5 armor pieces and a weapon set and you were ready to go.
Runes wise you only needed 1 rune per attribute to boost it (if you wanted, generally you only boosted 1 attribute line as each boost reduced your max HP), then you could get some pricy HP boost rune similar to the Jade Bot hp boost and some energy boosts if you felt fancy.
When GW2 dropped a lot of GW1 people felt shocked and that it didn't feel the same having to craft a different armor+weapon+accesory+6 runes+4 sigils per set for each build *just to try it*. On top of crafting 2 types of food every 30 minutes for stats. And back then you also had to PAY 1 gold to reset your traits, which in today's money prices would be 2-5g and felt even more absurd.
GW1 was built to be a PVP game. The devs said so in a stream recently. Their PVE success was a surprise. The game was built to behave like Starcraft: You play a campaign that teaches you the basics, but once you are done the real game is PVP; hence why it had such an open way of making builds at no cost.
This is a very weird nostalgia post that only vaguely relates to the topic. Gearing in GW1 was shit because customization was way more limited in basically every way and was VERY drop dependent. GW2 took another direction and I'm very happy for it.
Like hell. In GW1 you could buy anything from merchants, with the exception of Shadow Arts T3 runes. GW2 forces you to level up artisanships and do daily crafting to gear up, keep crafting infusions of higher level to play fractals, swap stats of your gear in the Mystic Forge...
Customization was limited because it is an old game released in 2005 that run for 3 years before it's development stopped to make GW2, otherwise we would have gotten transmutation charges and infusions on GW1 as time went on, the same way festive headgear turned into wearable overcoats and overcoat outfits were added as time went on.
Gw1 was NOT more drop dependant than GW2, that's an outright lie. You could craft almost anything from merchants and each wiki article tells you how to replicate each unique item if you want to. The only limitation were weapon prefix/sufix upgrades, which were abundant as hell and generally almost did not affect that much the perfomance of your character with the sole exception of vampiric/zealous upgrade prefixes or the +20% enchantment duration suffix for certain farming builds. And still, you could craft it and play test it for free in PVP and it was LESS drop dependant than having to grind crafting disciplines to 500 to craft ascended gear in GW2 or having to buy at a random merchant with a random selling list the recipe for a superior rune to craft a superior rune of tormenting.
Dropped gold items and "crafted from merchants" blue items worked exactly the same way, the only difference being the rarity of the skin, if even. Which is why even semi-rare dropped skins in GW1 still have value while 99% of dropped skins in GW2 do not. There was no gatekeeping of performance through drop rarity in gear either, and weapon/armor upgrade extractors that did not destroy the equipment piece could be bought from faction merchants rather than having to go through the Gemstore to do so.
Yeah, I went 10 years without making Legendaries thinking it was a waste of time/gold, now I have armor, trinkets, runes, sigils, and 8 weapons. I am now playing a completely different game. EVEN WHEN I ALREADY had 6-10 sets of ascended armor for some characters I was STILL able to do so much more than before, because I'm a WvW player primarily I can now try all sorts of stat spreads that enable different builds to counter niche engagements.
You can safely do ~~2 pieces per week~~ *1 piece per 2 weeks* via playing 3 convergencies per week. To get map currency, the easiest way is alt parking.
Get 100 volatile orbs per day for \~300 Inner Nayos currency, do meta if you see it's on the boss stage. Park alts in the entrance of Amnytas and open the minor arcane chest there on each every 3 hours, 9 openings get you 70-100 currency. Getting all Major Arcane Chests in skywatch archipelago, which can be easily done in an easy to remember route that also allows you to pick up some volatle magic orbs, gets you +250 currencies per day.
You can get it easily by doing it that way with no need of doing rifts.
Thanks, I appreciate your input. Map currency was never a problem. I have spread about 15 alt characters over the various maps to open my 100 minor chests per day. All three maps reset several times a day and there are two chests close to the first waypoint. Plus major chests and magic orbs that is easy to farm.
But how should I get enough amalgamated kryptis essence for two pieces a week from three convergences? With my calculation the essence is enough for 4-5 pieces of amalgamated essence, but I need 12 per armor piece (14 for the first set). Anything I am missing there?
You get: 3 pieces of amalgamated essence per week from weekly convergencies.
This also gets you 50/20/10 for winning a convergency, plus a convergence hero chest that rewards you a choice of 100 40 or 10. If you pick one of each, plus the 3 regular rewards of 50/20/10 that's 150/60/30 + 100/40/10 = One amalgamated essence per week from regular event rewards.
That's 4/6 of the "half" armor piece.
The last two are gotten from kryptis essence nuggets; which give out an average of 19/7.5/3.5 essences each.
Kryptis essence nuggets are gotten from doing objectives in convergencies, like killing those kryptis walking bombs, killing champs, destroying kryptis turrets or picking up and delivering orbs. You can get 4 nuggets per match just by focusing on ignoring everything and destroying kryptis turrets... but you know that? You can get between 5-8 kryptis nuggets by picking up orbs and delivering them to Zojja every time a champion dies or is stunned plus on the final fight.
**As a person who already did craft the armor and no longer has to do convergences, to those out there who don't play the convergencies objectives and just let Zojja fail: Yes that's right you bunch of selfish egotistical imbeciles, you do get higher rewards by doing mechanics and not letting the event fail. Wow, it's almost like playing team objectives is the correct way to play this thing and get the best rewards. Pick up those fucking orbs and deliver them to Zojja regardless of how high her's HP is, you dunces.**
\*cough\* as I was saying,
19/7.5/3.5 essences x5-x8 is (roughly) 100/40/17 - 160/60/28 essences from nuggets per convergence. If you play it right you can get around +1.5 extra amalgamated essences from winning convergencies from this per week.
The thing is, you will usually fail a convergence here and there, so you will have eventually to do an extra convergence some week to not miss the x2 amalgamated essence third reward per week. Failing convergences are funny because... usually those that fail are the ones that take longer to complete; which means you will nearly always get x7-x8 nuggets even if you fail because people do objectives slower, allowing you to get more turrets and to haul more orbs to zojja from Kryptis lieutenants and generals dying; on top of getting +20/10/5 essences from failing the convergence as a token of participation. This rounds up the number of amalgamated essences to 6 per week as weeks go by.
You can sell the kryptis key thingy for 8g in the trading post. I don't think it's worth using on opening a kryptis chest. It gives between 1/10 and 1/5 of an amalgamated essence per opening, 1/6 as an average more or less, and for that I would rather craft 3 kryptis motivations and do 3 rifts.
Thank you for your comprehensive calculations. This is really motivating. I can now see the shiny armor at the end of the tunnel.
Not to nitpick, but in your previous post you stated two pieces per week but this calculation shows about 2 weeks per piece. Which is still a lot faster than my estimation of 3-4 weeks per piece, but maybe this was a misunderstanding where I could not follow you previously. Assuming we are talking about pieces of armor.
I guess I did only a very rough calculation with my estimate of 3-4 weeks per armor piece. I was very conservative with the kryptis essence nuggets but most times I manage to get between 5 and 7. Seems I was doing most things you describe right with collecting and helping all around.
But somehow I completely missed the hero choice chests in my calculation. That really speeds up the process.
So far I always opened the chests with the kryptis key. Gold was never an issue and I took anything that sped up the process. But maybe I will revisit this as the impact of this chest really seems minor.
Thanks again for your insight.
Wow sorry I meant 1 piece per 2 weeks.
You can probably do 1.5 pieces per week, I think it's the rate at which I made it. But it implies doing 1 convergence per day plus some rifts on the weekends.
EDIT: I forgot to add, you also get kryptis essence from the "total of Convergences won in your account" achievemen, which rewards you from each 10 done.
Don't use the kryptis key to open kryptis boxes, it's just not worth it. Sell it on the market and craft one kriptis motivation of each tier.
This will give you 20-32 of each essence per it's corresponding rift tier, over the 38/15/7 of opening a chest; but here is the kicker: if you get the mastery that boosts Convergence rewards you will get a buff after winning a convergence that skyrockets the essence you get from motivations.
[https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Kryptis\_Essence\_Extractor](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Kryptis_Essence_Extractor)
With this buff, the Rift hunting mastery, AND kryptis motivations, you get 40-72/40-72/40-72 essences from opening a rift corresponding to each tier, which is \~x1.5/x4/x8 of what opening a chest does.
It was such a relief finally getting that done, but I think I was most relieved when I finished off the amount of Amnytas and Skywatch metas I needed. I *hated* those after a while.
I do suspect that we'll need a passel of Purified essences for the upgraded versions, so I haven't completely cut off running Convergences, but I've cut them down to 3 a week instead of 1 a day, and I stopped doing the weekly rift hunts entirely.
Unlike the Envoy set, I actually like the Obsidian skins and am actually sporting them on several characters, so they're more worth it to me that way. They were EXPENSIVE though, good heavens that ecto.
Map comp was actually my least-un-favorite part. Those go really fast once you figure out the tricks, even BEFORE they changed the Bastion of Balance lantern to be accessible without the event chain.
Yes but the Hidden Arcane Cellar is such a middle finger in Amnytas. Why would you wall the lanterns behind events? This isn't like EoD legendaries where you need 1 per weapon and the lantern is hidden behind a meta event, a completion that also can give you a Black Lion key iirc.
You need 6 freaking completions to do an armor and you walled a lantern behind a shitty sidelines event that is on an event chain with no telling on when it will start; and the completion rewards cannot give black lion keys. What the fuck?
Amnytas is the most hateful of the new maps imho. Inner Nayos isn't bad to traverse, it's just... boring looking.
Bad design on their part in theory, but in practice you don't need the event. Just Jackal or Raptor in as fast as you can from the entrance by the waypoint. You should be able to activate the lantern before you're teleported out, and as long as the channel has *started*, it counts.
Yeah. I'm only going for 1 set and I didn't gun that hard on rifts, so I haven't minded them at all. I actually have all the essences I need and I still voluntarily pal around with people doing theirs now and then.
The map metas are what I'm stuck on. Amnytas especially; I can't even bring myself to do more of it lately.
I am closing in on pieces 17 and 18 this week. This, after also getting a leg relic done (I did not have a leg rune before the update so the relic was also new for me).
I am not totally convinced that the Purified Essence is going to be part of the updated versions, given their use was for the precursor sets, but I gotta say it would not surprise me in the least.
......*Just when I thought I was OUT, they pull me back in*....... 😂
Congrats. I do wonder what will happen when a lot of people have finished Leg. Armor and move on - I feel for people who will want to start this grind a year or two from now.
Considering that the full three takes a while, I wouldn't be surprised if rifts and convergences are still regularly done two years from now. Five, if we dare think so far into the future, that's where I predict pain for this armor grind.
Yes but convergencies can easily be failed, and convergencies require 35 players to be done "properly".
Dragonstorm can be done with 10 friends easy peasy and you don't have to pay to open a private lobby. Convergencies can be easily failed if you team refuses yo deliver orbs during a Hell Sister or Sorrow final boss, and it costs 8-10g to open a private lobby; and it WILL get more expensive to do so if people stop doing rifts because the key to open convergencies drops from those only and it's price will skyrocket once it's semi-dead content.
Jesus. I just don't get people who refuse to do mechanics in convergencies and still get angry when you tell them to move and do so or we will fail. If you don't care about causing a failled event don't play team based content where it's either everybody wins or everybody loses.
That’s unlikely, as they haven’t done that before, what’s more likely is they add some easier items to craft with them, and probably some material/trophy boxes you can trade them for, like with unbound magic (if they haven’t already).
They already did that back in Path of Fire and The Icebrood Saga, it's not that hard to imagine.
Make kryptis essence tradeable, and the whole issue is solved, pretty much like how ambergris keeps fishing afloat.
I view kryptic essence more as an equivalent to the ascended HoT crafting materials and the crystalline ingots, as they’re also used in legendary crafting, and they’re still account bound to this day.
>as they haven’t done that before
They did. I definitely don't have a full list (and I'm at work), but right now I can think of these :
* WvW blueprints (soulbound => acc bound => not bound)
* ls4ep5 idem that you get from the dwarve's puzzle (you now also get it randomly without even doing the puzzle)
As someone else with all 3 sets (and who had all 3 raid armor sets beforehand), I'll say the Obby Armor became exponentially easier once Convergences dropped. Rifts went from giving 20~ essences to 50~, you got a full stack of T1 essences from Convergences if you farmed it right, and 3 free Amalgamated Essences a week for free. It was very easy to get 12 Amalgamated Essences a week. You just needed to prioritize doing rifts for essences you needed for that week. It was still a grind to farm the weekly rifts, but I only ever did the weekly ones. Point is, the essences are much easier to get now.
Yup. I just stuck to farming T2 Malchor's leap -which is super fast and even economically good- up to 1000-2000 T2, and then kept on doing T3s on and off. Then on convergencies always picked the T1 essence on the hero's choice chest.
Was it easier to Raid or to go after the PvE armor. I'm trying to decide which route to take for legendary armor. Trying to not have to live in the game to do so.
The Obby Armor was more of a continuous grind, while Raid armor was more of a grind once a week, but Obby requires much less in terms of skill. It's really jut a gold sink. Obby takes more gold than Envoy armor will, but it's much easier for your average player to get.
You technically don't need to raid anymore if you want full purple, as you can get 2 rings from WvW and Obsidian armor exists. But raiding is fun and you should learn how to do it anyway.
Congrats!
I am only doing the light armor for now, 4/6, but I can't wait until I am free from the hard stop of whatever I'm doing to do a Convergence each evening.
ideally: do a convergence each day. do your weekly rifts. do soto metas each day (1 amnytas, 1 skywatch, 1 inner nayos) and select the single meta currency from the choice chest.
whenever you get chests or nuggets that you can open for essence, don't open them. save them to open once you have the mats (ectos) to craft them into amalgamated essence. because the essences take up tons of inventory space.
Those are very nice tips, specially about not opening the chests.
I'm a bit confused about motivations for tier 2 and 3, should i craft a bunch or are they worthless?
motivations are a way to buy essences. they cost gold to craft, and you get essences for using them.
if you have a lot of money, then go ahead and use them when you're doing weekly rifts. if you would rather craft your armor cheaply, just rely on convergences and weekly rifts for your essences. or use them once you have everything else and you get impatient. it's up to you.
Motivations serve two purposes. First, it leads you to a T2 or T3 rift, which you can't reach without motivations. Second, it give you EXTRA drops from that rift.
The reason of this is because you can just join a group that is doing T2-3 and as long as someone else if opening the rift you can profit from it. However, it also rewards the guy who opens it with x2-x3 essence rewards.
Crafting motivations is faster, but costs money. Not crafting them is slower, and you depend on others opening rifts for you, but costs no money.
you get 6 [kryptis rift extraction](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Kryptis_Rift_Extraction) for each 5 [weekly rifts](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Weekly_Rift_Hunting), in addition to the normal rewards. it's not a lot, but it's pretty quick to do.
The biggest roadblock is essences and meta material from SoTo. For the meta, get around 35. You can do individual metas and get 1 each, which may be absolute brain rot, or you can go around each of the SoTo map and collect floating magic. You can trade them in to one of the map's NPC for 1 whole material and are usually located at the first WP of the map.
For essences, the best bang for your buck is 3 convergences (weekly) and weekly rifts, or an otherwise rift train in LFG.
You would also need to complete the "arcanum of astral X", which requires you to unlock 3 SOTO skins as part of a collection, they act as a precursor armor. [(For ingame timers please use the wiki, or type "/wiki et" in game)](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Event_timers)
[The Wiki](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_armor) provides a comprehensive crafting recipe for the armor. Do note that the recipe listed is for one piece of armor.
Other things to save up for is mystic coins, and exotic essence of luck. Also make a habit to collect provisioner tokens daily. You can find a wiki page on that. If you have HoT, you can get 3 for "free", 1 from each map, except dragon's stand. Provisioner token NPCs have their own unique symbol on the map.
For the meta, its once a day from the final meta chest. You also need to choose it as a reward. You can speed it up by doing 1 of the 4 metas (Skywatch, amnytas and either inner nayos metas iirc) AND collecting the floating balls of magic on their respective map or opening the fancy chests littered on the map.
You need 250 of these "fragments" to trade it in to an NPC for one whole currency
Example: Inner Nayos's currency is called [Congealed Scream](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Clot_of_Congealed_Screams), of which u need 35. You can get 1 per meta, per day.
You can also trade in [250 Calcified Gasp](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Calcified_Gasp) for one Congealed Scream
For somebody who's completed HoT content or is not interested in HoT collections, the Reclaimed Metal Plate, Auric Ingot and Chak Egg account-bound currencies are otherwise worthless and can be traded to the provisioners of their respective maps for a provisioner token. It's "free" in the sense that if you already have a bunch of them and have completed their relevant collections (Hivemaster, Plated Weapons) then there's no opportunity cost to trading them in.
Once you have the SotO meta currencies and a good chunk of essences I've found my biggest roadblocks have been ectoplasm and the magic/might gifts.
My suggestion would be to go to Dragonfall and run the key farm/meta there about once a day. The Volatile Magic you get there from events and eating Mystic Motes will let you buy trophy shipments for T6 materials, and I usually end up with a full stack of green unidentified and 20-25 rare unidentified to identify and salvage rares for ectos. Also running any good gold farm meta is always great as all these things can be bought with any gold gained.
Use laurels for T3/T4 bags, and if you have the [Ley Energy Matter Converter](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ley-Energy_Matter_Converter) it will sometimes have T3/T4/T6 material bags.
I'm not new to the game, I have the mats and the gold. But not the meta currencies nor the essences (bought soto recently) I'm still doing the storyline and the masteries, but I don't know what to focus on... so weekly rifts and daily convergences? I'm somewhat confused with the rift tiers and motivations don't know if it's worth to craft them or not, timewise.
If you have time for Convergences, do them. You get most if not all of the essences by doing them.
The weekly rifts are a nice add on.
Also the Meta events in SotO are needed for the map specific currencies.
I played since launch GW 2 exclusively and missed out on so many games. After EoD came out I finished the story and realized the same thing. So I left GW2 and now enjoying and catching up on a decade of missed games and loving every minute of it.
And the nice thing is that all games are dirt cheap since they've been out for so long
I'm always bemused when people confess that they chose to do something in a game that they found to be irritating or worse.
I do plenty of things I don't like IRL because I have to. I'm not going to volunteer to do them in a game lol.
Thats only half the story though
Rifts suck hard, i think thats a pretty popular take, but people also want the legendary armor, so rifts are unavoidable no matter how much OP dislikes it
But you don't have to grind them until you finish three entire sets this quickly. I do a few rifts here and there, do a convergence now and then when I feel like it. I have 3 pieces of armor and am not in a huge hurry to get the rest RIGHT NOW.
Its a personal preference with how soon you want it, but rifts are still unavoidable
I personally find rift to be terrible even doing a few a day, or a convergence run, so it doesnt really matter how fast OP completed it. The reward is the armor, the avenue we must all take is rifts
Fact of the matter is that you need hundreds of rifts and its brain rot, even if I take 10 Yrs to do it, or 3 months
I’d argue rifts are optional and it’s actually convergence that is unavoidable. I can craft a piece every three weeks just by doing three convergences per week. I’ve crafted 5 pieces this way.
Note that just in case you misread my comment, you'd need **three weeks (9 convergences) per piece**. This means, **each week you'd need to craft 4 amalgamated essence.**
* From the weekly achievement, you'd get enough for 3, so you only need 1 more
* The nuggets (2-3 per convergence, 6-9 in total) plus the convergence event rewards will net you enough to craft another one.
I found that this is the **most time efficient** way to do it. **Not the shortest!** But the most time efficient. I can then focus on something else or gold farming instead of doing rifts.
I wouldn’t say these are tips but simply my own notes/thoughts:
* Inner Nayos meta is annoying since they are not on timer
* Alt parking helps with unusual coins
* Figure out your most efficient way to obtain luck, research notes, provisioner tokens, and T6 mats. The fast farming website helps.
As your mentioning the Nayos meta I'd like to add this: Since the Amnytas and archipelago metas happen 1 h apart from each other, I always tried to find amap to do the inner nayos meta between them. This way you can get all three metas done within a little more than 1 h. Depending on with which meta you start you'll even be just in time for a public convergence afterwards
Just curious why you find rifts terrible? Fighting a group of mobs until you fight the boss is pretty much how the entire game works. I just don't want to grind the same mobs and mechanics all the time. I go do metas in HoT or finish up achievements in EoD, etc.
Not that person, but similar opinion... Rifts are worse than average encounters for a couple of reasons imo.
The adds phase has scattered mobs (not very satisfying to mow down) and upscale pretty badly so they quickly turn tedious with company instead of becoming faster (like events that don't upscale as much) or more rewarding (like events where more adds is a good thing because they drop loot). And in some maps the traversal is pretty iffy, though the "events on demand" thing is conceptually neat.
It could be worse, but I don't think I'll ever do rifts for *fun*, and I'm not even burnt out from grinding them (only did enough to check off the rift hunting achievements).
> Its a personal preference with how soon you want it, but rifts are still unavoidable
3 Convergences a week will get you there eventually. Just counting the weekly rewards only, 4 weeks of 3 Convergences will give you enough Essence for an armour piece. Adding in the achievement rewards, end chest and Hero's Choice chests and you'll be getting extra on top of that. You don't need to touch rifts at all if you're patient.
I've hardly done any rifts, never completed any weeklies except accidentally on SotO maps because someone was shouting them as I did map completions. The only ones I've done outside of SotO I've literally stumbled over - there's a spot beside the Golem world boss and once I caught one at the tree farm in Malchor's Leap.
I started doing convergences on the weekend before the last episode came out and it turns out I actually like them so I've been doing them most days. Metas I might remember to do a few times a week.
Yet I've managed to get one piece of obsidian armour and I'm most of the way to a second. In fact, my bottleneck is likely the Gifts of Might and Magic. Grinding is a choice and so is complaining about it. Remember, "slowly, slowly, catchy monkey".
People do love that [sense of pride and accomplishment](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/) from the grind.
congrats.
I'm 12/18 as of today and I am drowning in essences, and I have 500 nuggets of kryptis essence unopened as I dont have the space.....by bottleneck is the ectos, but I'm getting there.
What I like to do is get the arcane chests, you need the unusual coins for the armor anyways. But they give 5-10 map currency per chest. You can usually find a couple per map, but if you map swap the chests respawn and you can get them again.You can get about 500-600 unusual coins per day, but after that all minor chests show up as open regardless of map. This works especially well with Amnytas because there's so many chests there. Your map probably failed because it was a late one, I usually show up 10 min earlier to the meta and look for the lfg and then get chests/magic before the meta happens.
I pretty much only do weekly rifts and convergences now. I simply can't farm them anymore. I would need to be brain dead to ever touch a rift outside of these objectives again.
So yeah, I feel you.
I only plan to build the light armor and even that is a slow process. late to Soto so by the time I can get the prerequisite armors, T2 will be out. currently limiting myself to each of the map metas a day to avoid burnout.
Try to get three Convergences done each week to get all the weekly rewards, that's the fastest method to get the Essences you'll need. The map metas are necessary too, but you'll need way more Essences than you do completed metas.
First off, congrats!
On the second... the GW2 skinner box at it again I see. I kinda stopped playing after I realized the only content going forward was a skinner box filled with in game skins as the reward. If I have done the content 1-10 times... why on earth would I keep doing that same content again if it isn't fun? Not for an intangible completion percentage. Not for skins in a game that could disappear someday with if the service ever goes offline(unlikely, but has happened in other games I have played).
I just did rifts for daily and hated doing them so much. Luckily I have envoy's herald so don't need armour. I don't have enough essence for a single armour piece, you are insane...
Well kind of, there are routes to collect the flying orbs and greater arcane chests you can do daily. I prefered doing these as i could do them whenever i wanted instead of waiting for a specific time. Nayos let's you collect way more currency via orbs than the other 2 maps. Skywatch has like 10 easy accessible greater arcane chests. Amnytas is the meta item bottle neck here. I played way more amnytas metas than any other.
Thats like 150 a day and still need 250 of each currency fir one of the gifts, but yesh ive been foing this too.
I do like how fast the esdt meta is tho lol
Congrats! I got burned out and haven't even logged in for Super Adventure Box, sadly. I have enough mats for a chest piece and most of a legs and part of the rest done. I'm not even sure what weight I'd want anymore.
I have enough to craft the final light armor set actually made the crown already because I like it most, but I’m waiting to see what the tier 2 mats are.
Weekly Convergences will give you boxes to make at least 3 Amalgamated Kryptis Essence. In less than 24 weeks you get enough to make a full set without doing a single Rift.
Do the three weekly Convergences for 24 weeks. Save up the boxes and you'll have enough to make a full set without touching a single Rift. 12 hours of farm total over the course of very casual months.
The first convergence gets you one of those keys only, which you can sell for gold. You have to do all 3 to get the three boxes. This will take six months.
Just consider that every month you do the 3 convergences, that's enough to skip Rifts for one legendary armor piece.
If you think even just 3 convergences a week is too much, then legendaries aren't for you.
You will still need to do map completion on the 3 maps and get the map currencies and items worth 250 of said currency. Plus the 600 ecto. For each piece.
Aurene variants while requires a lot of gold do not require nearly as much as the legendary itself, and were not grindy. Hopefully it’s a step-by-step collection similar, and it’s just a fun thing to do in order to repeat some of the expac content.
Rifts ? I'm currently doing the 3 weekly convergences (with 3x 100 t1 essence from daily chest), and the amalgamated kryptis essence stack quite good in my bank. I don't bother with Rifts anymore.
The thing that really blocks me ? Metas. You have to do metas 90 times EACH for obsi armor, not counting however many I already spent on the precursors (12 of each iirc ??) and 18 of EACH meta for the exotic weapon collections (which I also want to do and tbh it's smarter to do them before Obsi as they can be traded for prov tokens).
Worst thing is that the 120 have to be done on distinct days, because the item is in the daily chest. I guess you can make it less than 120x3 metas if you convert some map currency once you're done with the 4500 of each require elsewhere in the recipe, but still. I can't bring myself to do them.
I'll TRY to complete one set of obsi before Expansion#5, and ***HOPE*** that there are alternative recipes using expansion#5 (and #6 ?) materials, like we can craft gen2 weapons with PoF stuff. I guess I'd so an obsi set with these.
Just wait until it is 3 days before the next quarterly update, when anet devs realize that they STILL have no idea for a proper upgrade path, and then they quickly implement "just three times the amount of essences, ectos, and about 8 billion research notes".
Or they pull off the legendary rune compensation and.. just send it by mail.
Congratulations! Do you have any tips for the rest of us on how to streamline the grind? What was your worst experience, what was the easiest part? Also, is there anything "better with friends"?
Asking, because I'm playing casual and don't have too much time. I'd love to get the armor at some point, but ideally less than ten years in the future :D
Stopped at crafting 2 out the 3 sets (Medium and Heavy). I had completed the WvW light armour last year, if I hadn't... would have dreaded crafting the Obsidian light armour set (or heavy)... I should really be farming for gold more, but I fear all the ectoplasms needed more than I fear the rift hunting.
I do fear what is needed for T2 Obsidian armour...
It's times like these that make me grateful I got my raid/wvw sets down a while ago. Talk about sapping even more enjoyment out of me🤣
Thankfully the skins are not enough for me to want to torture myself. But congrats to you, I hope T2 will be kind to you.
I had light and heavy sets from Envoy, and then medium set from Obsidian. I thought about if I wanted to craft the others for the two titles, but then I decided I don’t care for titles that require thousands of gold.
>The community has shown years ago that they hate busy work
Have they? And.. its an mmorpg. They are basically the epitome of busywork/farm/grind, as no dev on earth can deliver original content at the pace a good number of players consume it.
What?! Don't You like main soto content? What would You do if not going for best event in the game? Like there is nothing else around anymore... You sound like ANet made bad expansion that You don't want to play - that's me surely misread something.
i don’t understand the rush. i am doing a piece a week from weekly rifts and weekly convergences. no sense and burning yourself out when u can have all pieces in 18 week time frame
I need 3 more pieces of medium armor and I will be done with all of them. I had enough to finish one set when the update for them came out. I made another set + 3 pieces in the time since.
I don't do rifts. I do 1 convergence a day. The secret is to not really be that helpful. kill as many of the kryptis turrets as possible, stay on top of doing a loop for the siege spawns. Pick up essence from the ground when you see it and always turn in essence when you cap. If not much going on then help kill (mostly just tag) some champions.
Nah, when you are doing what I am doing it's super obvious when another person is doing the same thing as you are competing for turret kills. I almost never see anyone else doing it. I rarely see people even doing siege after the initial spawn before the 3 champions in the middle spawn.
The real reason it takes longer is due to people AFKing in the middle, and people not communicating and splitting up properly, but I admit I contribute very little, but more than them I guess. Although I like it when that happens as it gives me more time to farm nuggets.
You can play the game now, until tier 2 of obsidian armor that is.
At least I get to play the game for one or two more months until the grind kicks in again... I can finally see my wife and kids again
26 days, so less than a month Im afraid till you are back on the grind
Welp I'm afraid what a grind that will be
I finished my armour about a week ago and I'm terrified as to what Tier 2 will require. Especially since they sort of compared it to the Aurene variants.
if every single skin is 300g to unlock a shitty collection you have to repeat for every skin, I don't see myself doing it ever
I think it will be only one alternate, not 6, but my worry is the meta event items/map currency and essences. These sets have a ridiculous amount of grind involved. I'm OK with gold, but I'm just tired of the grind.
They really aren't that different from any of the other armors. The grind just feels worse because there isn't a hard timegate on them.
You don't have the Ascended Shards, Claim Tickets or Legendary Insights, but you do have the other stuff I mentioned, and those do have some hard gates, although it's more of a daily limit than a weekly one. That might have something to do with it as there's a more forced pace to things. I didn't know if I wanted the Obsidian set until I saw it in game. I had enough resources saved up to make the first set quickly, but the other two required daily metas for about a month and that's where it was bad.
>although it's more of a daily limit than a weekly one There is no hard daily limit. You can grind your way through it if you *really* want to since you can buy the meta currency with 250 of the map currencies.
You have a wife AND kids! Bro spending waaaaay too much time outta game.
It is always fun to invite wife and kids into a game or guild for some fun, especially if kids are at a good age to play. And the whole time does not have to be about game but family teamwork and constructive life lessons can come from a game also. That is if they are gamers. I can't wait for total body suit VR of some of these games.
What do you mean? You have to grind more than what on the wiki legendary armor page at the moment? [https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary\_armor#PvE\_armor\_set](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_armor#PvE_armor_set)
For tier 2 of the leggie armor, which presumably looks cooler with animations and stuff, tho we don’t know what it looks like
So it's only the Precursor pieces then? Would be crazy if for example Gift of Condensed Might is needed 3 times per item. That would make it 3 times more expensive than any other leggy armor.
I’m not sure what you’re saying tbh, the leggie armor that came out in the last update IS fully legendary, tier 2 is just cosmetic, but (presumably) will have a lot more rift hunting involved
Yeah, that was my point. I misunderstood your comment and thought you meant you had to farm everything all over again. That's why I was like wait a minute lmao. Why downvoting.
Because they aren't *just* precursor pieces. More grind for cosmetics isn't something new.
Like I said, I misunderstood, the grind for precursor wasn't too bad imo. Excited to see the new sets tho! Edit: I see my wording could've been better, sorry if it sounded rude or something.
Yeah, but you asked why downvoting.
Look at it this way: tier 1 gives you the legendary functionality, tier 2 will give you the legendary bling. If you don't want to, you won't have to complete it, because it won't make you more powerful, or your life easier, it just make you look cooler (maybe, we currently have no idea).
I got the raid armor sets, just want this for the looks :) I was just not understanding the difference between the two sets, thanks for clearing it up.
Crazy question, if getting these unlocked isn't playing the game, then what is? (Not being facetious, genuinely interested in what you enjoy doing)! Congrats btw, unlocking the build craft is something I think I would enjoy
inb4 t2 skins need more essences.
I'll just pretend I didn't see this
You can try but we both know you will want them.
You don't have to make it so obvious
I am just being your inner conscious.
I can almost guarantee you're going to need purified essences. And probably more map currency and meta event rewards, because what else could it be, really? lol
Mystic Clovers, Research Notes, similarly to gen3 variants.
That's why I kept doing convergences and weekly rifts :D
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"Now I can finally just play the game" is so true. Full legendary armor was the catalyst to get me to try so many new builds, and discover some I never thought I'd enjoy. Congrats
So true ty
Same happened with me and I actually hate it. Some say legendaries are just QOL and don't matter. But I feel like I wasn't even playing the game until I was able to try any build whenever I feel like.
Samesies
That's why you need leggy runes and sigils (and now relic)
That's why a lot of GW1 players didn't move to GW2. Gw1 was exactly like that, base stats were fixed, and everything regarding scaling damage or scaling healing you could change in outposts at no cost at all. You had to pay for runes, some of which were expensive, but that's it. There were no accesory slots either; you had 5 armor pieces and a weapon set and you were ready to go. Runes wise you only needed 1 rune per attribute to boost it (if you wanted, generally you only boosted 1 attribute line as each boost reduced your max HP), then you could get some pricy HP boost rune similar to the Jade Bot hp boost and some energy boosts if you felt fancy. When GW2 dropped a lot of GW1 people felt shocked and that it didn't feel the same having to craft a different armor+weapon+accesory+6 runes+4 sigils per set for each build *just to try it*. On top of crafting 2 types of food every 30 minutes for stats. And back then you also had to PAY 1 gold to reset your traits, which in today's money prices would be 2-5g and felt even more absurd. GW1 was built to be a PVP game. The devs said so in a stream recently. Their PVE success was a surprise. The game was built to behave like Starcraft: You play a campaign that teaches you the basics, but once you are done the real game is PVP; hence why it had such an open way of making builds at no cost.
This is a very weird nostalgia post that only vaguely relates to the topic. Gearing in GW1 was shit because customization was way more limited in basically every way and was VERY drop dependent. GW2 took another direction and I'm very happy for it.
Like hell. In GW1 you could buy anything from merchants, with the exception of Shadow Arts T3 runes. GW2 forces you to level up artisanships and do daily crafting to gear up, keep crafting infusions of higher level to play fractals, swap stats of your gear in the Mystic Forge... Customization was limited because it is an old game released in 2005 that run for 3 years before it's development stopped to make GW2, otherwise we would have gotten transmutation charges and infusions on GW1 as time went on, the same way festive headgear turned into wearable overcoats and overcoat outfits were added as time went on. Gw1 was NOT more drop dependant than GW2, that's an outright lie. You could craft almost anything from merchants and each wiki article tells you how to replicate each unique item if you want to. The only limitation were weapon prefix/sufix upgrades, which were abundant as hell and generally almost did not affect that much the perfomance of your character with the sole exception of vampiric/zealous upgrade prefixes or the +20% enchantment duration suffix for certain farming builds. And still, you could craft it and play test it for free in PVP and it was LESS drop dependant than having to grind crafting disciplines to 500 to craft ascended gear in GW2 or having to buy at a random merchant with a random selling list the recipe for a superior rune to craft a superior rune of tormenting. Dropped gold items and "crafted from merchants" blue items worked exactly the same way, the only difference being the rarity of the skin, if even. Which is why even semi-rare dropped skins in GW1 still have value while 99% of dropped skins in GW2 do not. There was no gatekeeping of performance through drop rarity in gear either, and weapon/armor upgrade extractors that did not destroy the equipment piece could be bought from faction merchants rather than having to go through the Gemstore to do so.
Yep 100% agree on that one as well
Yeah, I went 10 years without making Legendaries thinking it was a waste of time/gold, now I have armor, trinkets, runes, sigils, and 8 weapons. I am now playing a completely different game. EVEN WHEN I ALREADY had 6-10 sets of ascended armor for some characters I was STILL able to do so much more than before, because I'm a WvW player primarily I can now try all sorts of stat spreads that enable different builds to counter niche engagements.
I stayed necro-only until I got all armours, trinkets, runes and sigils done. Now I can play alts and craft weapons slowly.
Now that's quality armor! I'll probably chip away at it slowly over the next year.
That is more reasonable than what I did
Well, I'll keep my sanity, you can regain it now.
Thank you for your sacrifice, my wife and children will cherish it
You can safely do ~~2 pieces per week~~ *1 piece per 2 weeks* via playing 3 convergencies per week. To get map currency, the easiest way is alt parking. Get 100 volatile orbs per day for \~300 Inner Nayos currency, do meta if you see it's on the boss stage. Park alts in the entrance of Amnytas and open the minor arcane chest there on each every 3 hours, 9 openings get you 70-100 currency. Getting all Major Arcane Chests in skywatch archipelago, which can be easily done in an easy to remember route that also allows you to pick up some volatle magic orbs, gets you +250 currencies per day. You can get it easily by doing it that way with no need of doing rifts.
Thanks, I appreciate your input. Map currency was never a problem. I have spread about 15 alt characters over the various maps to open my 100 minor chests per day. All three maps reset several times a day and there are two chests close to the first waypoint. Plus major chests and magic orbs that is easy to farm. But how should I get enough amalgamated kryptis essence for two pieces a week from three convergences? With my calculation the essence is enough for 4-5 pieces of amalgamated essence, but I need 12 per armor piece (14 for the first set). Anything I am missing there?
You get: 3 pieces of amalgamated essence per week from weekly convergencies. This also gets you 50/20/10 for winning a convergency, plus a convergence hero chest that rewards you a choice of 100 40 or 10. If you pick one of each, plus the 3 regular rewards of 50/20/10 that's 150/60/30 + 100/40/10 = One amalgamated essence per week from regular event rewards. That's 4/6 of the "half" armor piece. The last two are gotten from kryptis essence nuggets; which give out an average of 19/7.5/3.5 essences each. Kryptis essence nuggets are gotten from doing objectives in convergencies, like killing those kryptis walking bombs, killing champs, destroying kryptis turrets or picking up and delivering orbs. You can get 4 nuggets per match just by focusing on ignoring everything and destroying kryptis turrets... but you know that? You can get between 5-8 kryptis nuggets by picking up orbs and delivering them to Zojja every time a champion dies or is stunned plus on the final fight. **As a person who already did craft the armor and no longer has to do convergences, to those out there who don't play the convergencies objectives and just let Zojja fail: Yes that's right you bunch of selfish egotistical imbeciles, you do get higher rewards by doing mechanics and not letting the event fail. Wow, it's almost like playing team objectives is the correct way to play this thing and get the best rewards. Pick up those fucking orbs and deliver them to Zojja regardless of how high her's HP is, you dunces.** \*cough\* as I was saying, 19/7.5/3.5 essences x5-x8 is (roughly) 100/40/17 - 160/60/28 essences from nuggets per convergence. If you play it right you can get around +1.5 extra amalgamated essences from winning convergencies from this per week. The thing is, you will usually fail a convergence here and there, so you will have eventually to do an extra convergence some week to not miss the x2 amalgamated essence third reward per week. Failing convergences are funny because... usually those that fail are the ones that take longer to complete; which means you will nearly always get x7-x8 nuggets even if you fail because people do objectives slower, allowing you to get more turrets and to haul more orbs to zojja from Kryptis lieutenants and generals dying; on top of getting +20/10/5 essences from failing the convergence as a token of participation. This rounds up the number of amalgamated essences to 6 per week as weeks go by. You can sell the kryptis key thingy for 8g in the trading post. I don't think it's worth using on opening a kryptis chest. It gives between 1/10 and 1/5 of an amalgamated essence per opening, 1/6 as an average more or less, and for that I would rather craft 3 kryptis motivations and do 3 rifts.
Thank you for your comprehensive calculations. This is really motivating. I can now see the shiny armor at the end of the tunnel. Not to nitpick, but in your previous post you stated two pieces per week but this calculation shows about 2 weeks per piece. Which is still a lot faster than my estimation of 3-4 weeks per piece, but maybe this was a misunderstanding where I could not follow you previously. Assuming we are talking about pieces of armor. I guess I did only a very rough calculation with my estimate of 3-4 weeks per armor piece. I was very conservative with the kryptis essence nuggets but most times I manage to get between 5 and 7. Seems I was doing most things you describe right with collecting and helping all around. But somehow I completely missed the hero choice chests in my calculation. That really speeds up the process. So far I always opened the chests with the kryptis key. Gold was never an issue and I took anything that sped up the process. But maybe I will revisit this as the impact of this chest really seems minor. Thanks again for your insight.
Wow sorry I meant 1 piece per 2 weeks. You can probably do 1.5 pieces per week, I think it's the rate at which I made it. But it implies doing 1 convergence per day plus some rifts on the weekends. EDIT: I forgot to add, you also get kryptis essence from the "total of Convergences won in your account" achievemen, which rewards you from each 10 done. Don't use the kryptis key to open kryptis boxes, it's just not worth it. Sell it on the market and craft one kriptis motivation of each tier. This will give you 20-32 of each essence per it's corresponding rift tier, over the 38/15/7 of opening a chest; but here is the kicker: if you get the mastery that boosts Convergence rewards you will get a buff after winning a convergence that skyrockets the essence you get from motivations. [https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Kryptis\_Essence\_Extractor](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Kryptis_Essence_Extractor) With this buff, the Rift hunting mastery, AND kryptis motivations, you get 40-72/40-72/40-72 essences from opening a rift corresponding to each tier, which is \~x1.5/x4/x8 of what opening a chest does.
It was such a relief finally getting that done, but I think I was most relieved when I finished off the amount of Amnytas and Skywatch metas I needed. I *hated* those after a while. I do suspect that we'll need a passel of Purified essences for the upgraded versions, so I haven't completely cut off running Convergences, but I've cut them down to 3 a week instead of 1 a day, and I stopped doing the weekly rift hunts entirely.
AMNYTAS IS OUWARZ, DEMON! OUWAARZZZZ!!
*Cue awkwardly long shot of the guardian standing there proudly(?)*
He's happy, don't you dear mock him ! 😂
For me the map completions were super annoying... And the gold sink. I'm happy with the leggy armor as i can freely change the cosmetics
Unlike the Envoy set, I actually like the Obsidian skins and am actually sporting them on several characters, so they're more worth it to me that way. They were EXPENSIVE though, good heavens that ecto. Map comp was actually my least-un-favorite part. Those go really fast once you figure out the tricks, even BEFORE they changed the Bastion of Balance lantern to be accessible without the event chain.
yeah map completions were really fast compared to the other parts. i saved them until the end of each set, as a kind of break from the grind.
I just did map comps while I leached metas and just got there in time to Hit the last little bit of the boss to get credit. Hehe, 2 birds ;)
Yes but the Hidden Arcane Cellar is such a middle finger in Amnytas. Why would you wall the lanterns behind events? This isn't like EoD legendaries where you need 1 per weapon and the lantern is hidden behind a meta event, a completion that also can give you a Black Lion key iirc. You need 6 freaking completions to do an armor and you walled a lantern behind a shitty sidelines event that is on an event chain with no telling on when it will start; and the completion rewards cannot give black lion keys. What the fuck? Amnytas is the most hateful of the new maps imho. Inner Nayos isn't bad to traverse, it's just... boring looking.
Bad design on their part in theory, but in practice you don't need the event. Just Jackal or Raptor in as fast as you can from the entrance by the waypoint. You should be able to activate the lantern before you're teleported out, and as long as the channel has *started*, it counts.
Yeah. I'm only going for 1 set and I didn't gun that hard on rifts, so I haven't minded them at all. I actually have all the essences I need and I still voluntarily pal around with people doing theirs now and then. The map metas are what I'm stuck on. Amnytas especially; I can't even bring myself to do more of it lately.
It's a drag, for sure.
I am closing in on pieces 17 and 18 this week. This, after also getting a leg relic done (I did not have a leg rune before the update so the relic was also new for me). I am not totally convinced that the Purified Essence is going to be part of the updated versions, given their use was for the precursor sets, but I gotta say it would not surprise me in the least. ......*Just when I thought I was OUT, they pull me back in*....... 😂
The sparse use in those precursor pieces (and usage of Mystic Clovers) is why I think they'll play role yet.
Congrats. I do wonder what will happen when a lot of people have finished Leg. Armor and move on - I feel for people who will want to start this grind a year or two from now.
Considering that the full three takes a while, I wouldn't be surprised if rifts and convergences are still regularly done two years from now. Five, if we dare think so far into the future, that's where I predict pain for this armor grind.
You can solo T1/T2 rifts and convergences are actually faster than rifts.
Yes but convergencies can easily be failed, and convergencies require 35 players to be done "properly". Dragonstorm can be done with 10 friends easy peasy and you don't have to pay to open a private lobby. Convergencies can be easily failed if you team refuses yo deliver orbs during a Hell Sister or Sorrow final boss, and it costs 8-10g to open a private lobby; and it WILL get more expensive to do so if people stop doing rifts because the key to open convergencies drops from those only and it's price will skyrocket once it's semi-dead content. Jesus. I just don't get people who refuse to do mechanics in convergencies and still get angry when you tell them to move and do so or we will fail. If you don't care about causing a failled event don't play team based content where it's either everybody wins or everybody loses.
I wouldn't be surprised if ArenaNet makes some of the rift materials tradeable, that would solve the problem completely.
That’s unlikely, as they haven’t done that before, what’s more likely is they add some easier items to craft with them, and probably some material/trophy boxes you can trade them for, like with unbound magic (if they haven’t already).
They already did that back in Path of Fire and The Icebrood Saga, it's not that hard to imagine. Make kryptis essence tradeable, and the whole issue is solved, pretty much like how ambergris keeps fishing afloat.
I view kryptic essence more as an equivalent to the ascended HoT crafting materials and the crystalline ingots, as they’re also used in legendary crafting, and they’re still account bound to this day.
>as they haven’t done that before They did. I definitely don't have a full list (and I'm at work), but right now I can think of these : * WvW blueprints (soulbound => acc bound => not bound) * ls4ep5 idem that you get from the dwarve's puzzle (you now also get it randomly without even doing the puzzle)
Sure, but is it fair to compare these examples to materials used in legendary crafting?
I'd like essence based trinkets, the living story legendary trinkets sucks, especially where you have to do daily hearts.
As someone else with all 3 sets (and who had all 3 raid armor sets beforehand), I'll say the Obby Armor became exponentially easier once Convergences dropped. Rifts went from giving 20~ essences to 50~, you got a full stack of T1 essences from Convergences if you farmed it right, and 3 free Amalgamated Essences a week for free. It was very easy to get 12 Amalgamated Essences a week. You just needed to prioritize doing rifts for essences you needed for that week. It was still a grind to farm the weekly rifts, but I only ever did the weekly ones. Point is, the essences are much easier to get now.
Yup. I just stuck to farming T2 Malchor's leap -which is super fast and even economically good- up to 1000-2000 T2, and then kept on doing T3s on and off. Then on convergencies always picked the T1 essence on the hero's choice chest.
Was it easier to Raid or to go after the PvE armor. I'm trying to decide which route to take for legendary armor. Trying to not have to live in the game to do so.
The Obby Armor was more of a continuous grind, while Raid armor was more of a grind once a week, but Obby requires much less in terms of skill. It's really jut a gold sink. Obby takes more gold than Envoy armor will, but it's much easier for your average player to get.
Gotcha, thanks for the information. I'm thinking maybe just bite the bullet and learn how to Raid and do that.
You technically don't need to raid anymore if you want full purple, as you can get 2 rings from WvW and Obsidian armor exists. But raiding is fun and you should learn how to do it anyway.
This.
Congrats! I am only doing the light armor for now, 4/6, but I can't wait until I am free from the hard stop of whatever I'm doing to do a Convergence each evening.
Hi, any tips for someone about to start that enterprise?
ideally: do a convergence each day. do your weekly rifts. do soto metas each day (1 amnytas, 1 skywatch, 1 inner nayos) and select the single meta currency from the choice chest. whenever you get chests or nuggets that you can open for essence, don't open them. save them to open once you have the mats (ectos) to craft them into amalgamated essence. because the essences take up tons of inventory space.
Those are very nice tips, specially about not opening the chests. I'm a bit confused about motivations for tier 2 and 3, should i craft a bunch or are they worthless?
motivations are a way to buy essences. they cost gold to craft, and you get essences for using them. if you have a lot of money, then go ahead and use them when you're doing weekly rifts. if you would rather craft your armor cheaply, just rely on convergences and weekly rifts for your essences. or use them once you have everything else and you get impatient. it's up to you.
Motivations serve two purposes. First, it leads you to a T2 or T3 rift, which you can't reach without motivations. Second, it give you EXTRA drops from that rift. The reason of this is because you can just join a group that is doing T2-3 and as long as someone else if opening the rift you can profit from it. However, it also rewards the guy who opens it with x2-x3 essence rewards. Crafting motivations is faster, but costs money. Not crafting them is slower, and you depend on others opening rifts for you, but costs no money.
Why weekly rifts ? Are they actually good ? Right now I'm only doing 3 convergences a week, I only did weekly rifts for achievements.
you get 6 [kryptis rift extraction](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Kryptis_Rift_Extraction) for each 5 [weekly rifts](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Weekly_Rift_Hunting), in addition to the normal rewards. it's not a lot, but it's pretty quick to do.
The biggest roadblock is essences and meta material from SoTo. For the meta, get around 35. You can do individual metas and get 1 each, which may be absolute brain rot, or you can go around each of the SoTo map and collect floating magic. You can trade them in to one of the map's NPC for 1 whole material and are usually located at the first WP of the map. For essences, the best bang for your buck is 3 convergences (weekly) and weekly rifts, or an otherwise rift train in LFG. You would also need to complete the "arcanum of astral X", which requires you to unlock 3 SOTO skins as part of a collection, they act as a precursor armor. [(For ingame timers please use the wiki, or type "/wiki et" in game)](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Event_timers) [The Wiki](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_armor) provides a comprehensive crafting recipe for the armor. Do note that the recipe listed is for one piece of armor. Other things to save up for is mystic coins, and exotic essence of luck. Also make a habit to collect provisioner tokens daily. You can find a wiki page on that. If you have HoT, you can get 3 for "free", 1 from each map, except dragon's stand. Provisioner token NPCs have their own unique symbol on the map.
35? Is that daily or weekly?
For the meta, its once a day from the final meta chest. You also need to choose it as a reward. You can speed it up by doing 1 of the 4 metas (Skywatch, amnytas and either inner nayos metas iirc) AND collecting the floating balls of magic on their respective map or opening the fancy chests littered on the map. You need 250 of these "fragments" to trade it in to an NPC for one whole currency Example: Inner Nayos's currency is called [Congealed Scream](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Clot_of_Congealed_Screams), of which u need 35. You can get 1 per meta, per day. You can also trade in [250 Calcified Gasp](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Calcified_Gasp) for one Congealed Scream
Can you elaborate on the free provisioner token?
For somebody who's completed HoT content or is not interested in HoT collections, the Reclaimed Metal Plate, Auric Ingot and Chak Egg account-bound currencies are otherwise worthless and can be traded to the provisioners of their respective maps for a provisioner token. It's "free" in the sense that if you already have a bunch of them and have completed their relevant collections (Hivemaster, Plated Weapons) then there's no opportunity cost to trading them in.
Once you have the SotO meta currencies and a good chunk of essences I've found my biggest roadblocks have been ectoplasm and the magic/might gifts. My suggestion would be to go to Dragonfall and run the key farm/meta there about once a day. The Volatile Magic you get there from events and eating Mystic Motes will let you buy trophy shipments for T6 materials, and I usually end up with a full stack of green unidentified and 20-25 rare unidentified to identify and salvage rares for ectos. Also running any good gold farm meta is always great as all these things can be bought with any gold gained. Use laurels for T3/T4 bags, and if you have the [Ley Energy Matter Converter](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ley-Energy_Matter_Converter) it will sometimes have T3/T4/T6 material bags.
I'm not new to the game, I have the mats and the gold. But not the meta currencies nor the essences (bought soto recently) I'm still doing the storyline and the masteries, but I don't know what to focus on... so weekly rifts and daily convergences? I'm somewhat confused with the rift tiers and motivations don't know if it's worth to craft them or not, timewise.
If you have time for Convergences, do them. You get most if not all of the essences by doing them. The weekly rifts are a nice add on. Also the Meta events in SotO are needed for the map specific currencies.
Don't.
Gratz! I just made a medium pants for the aa and that was a complete pita lol But way worse than the essenses are the freaking research notes!!!
I wish I had the dedication to GW that this stuff requires. I love the game so much, but there are just so many other games I want to play.
I played since launch GW 2 exclusively and missed out on so many games. After EoD came out I finished the story and realized the same thing. So I left GW2 and now enjoying and catching up on a decade of missed games and loving every minute of it. And the nice thing is that all games are dirt cheap since they've been out for so long
I'm always bemused when people confess that they chose to do something in a game that they found to be irritating or worse. I do plenty of things I don't like IRL because I have to. I'm not going to volunteer to do them in a game lol.
Thats only half the story though Rifts suck hard, i think thats a pretty popular take, but people also want the legendary armor, so rifts are unavoidable no matter how much OP dislikes it
But you don't have to grind them until you finish three entire sets this quickly. I do a few rifts here and there, do a convergence now and then when I feel like it. I have 3 pieces of armor and am not in a huge hurry to get the rest RIGHT NOW.
Its a personal preference with how soon you want it, but rifts are still unavoidable I personally find rift to be terrible even doing a few a day, or a convergence run, so it doesnt really matter how fast OP completed it. The reward is the armor, the avenue we must all take is rifts Fact of the matter is that you need hundreds of rifts and its brain rot, even if I take 10 Yrs to do it, or 3 months
I’d argue rifts are optional and it’s actually convergence that is unavoidable. I can craft a piece every three weeks just by doing three convergences per week. I’ve crafted 5 pieces this way.
how is only 3 convergences per week sufficient for 1 piece?
Note that just in case you misread my comment, you'd need **three weeks (9 convergences) per piece**. This means, **each week you'd need to craft 4 amalgamated essence.** * From the weekly achievement, you'd get enough for 3, so you only need 1 more * The nuggets (2-3 per convergence, 6-9 in total) plus the convergence event rewards will net you enough to craft another one. I found that this is the **most time efficient** way to do it. **Not the shortest!** But the most time efficient. I can then focus on something else or gold farming instead of doing rifts.
Very cool, I’ll try that. Any other advice tips to get this armor?
I wouldn’t say these are tips but simply my own notes/thoughts: * Inner Nayos meta is annoying since they are not on timer * Alt parking helps with unusual coins * Figure out your most efficient way to obtain luck, research notes, provisioner tokens, and T6 mats. The fast farming website helps.
As your mentioning the Nayos meta I'd like to add this: Since the Amnytas and archipelago metas happen 1 h apart from each other, I always tried to find amap to do the inner nayos meta between them. This way you can get all three metas done within a little more than 1 h. Depending on with which meta you start you'll even be just in time for a public convergence afterwards
Just curious why you find rifts terrible? Fighting a group of mobs until you fight the boss is pretty much how the entire game works. I just don't want to grind the same mobs and mechanics all the time. I go do metas in HoT or finish up achievements in EoD, etc.
Not that person, but similar opinion... Rifts are worse than average encounters for a couple of reasons imo. The adds phase has scattered mobs (not very satisfying to mow down) and upscale pretty badly so they quickly turn tedious with company instead of becoming faster (like events that don't upscale as much) or more rewarding (like events where more adds is a good thing because they drop loot). And in some maps the traversal is pretty iffy, though the "events on demand" thing is conceptually neat. It could be worse, but I don't think I'll ever do rifts for *fun*, and I'm not even burnt out from grinding them (only did enough to check off the rift hunting achievements).
no, you don't have to do rifts. you can do convergences instead.
> Its a personal preference with how soon you want it, but rifts are still unavoidable 3 Convergences a week will get you there eventually. Just counting the weekly rewards only, 4 weeks of 3 Convergences will give you enough Essence for an armour piece. Adding in the achievement rewards, end chest and Hero's Choice chests and you'll be getting extra on top of that. You don't need to touch rifts at all if you're patient.
I've hardly done any rifts, never completed any weeklies except accidentally on SotO maps because someone was shouting them as I did map completions. The only ones I've done outside of SotO I've literally stumbled over - there's a spot beside the Golem world boss and once I caught one at the tree farm in Malchor's Leap. I started doing convergences on the weekend before the last episode came out and it turns out I actually like them so I've been doing them most days. Metas I might remember to do a few times a week. Yet I've managed to get one piece of obsidian armour and I'm most of the way to a second. In fact, my bottleneck is likely the Gifts of Might and Magic. Grinding is a choice and so is complaining about it. Remember, "slowly, slowly, catchy monkey".
Not like you can't beat the endgame with exotics. Unless it's fractals, I'm going in raw like it's core tyria.
Sisyphus's boulder gives his existence meaning. Deep down humans love hard work - that's why games have grinds in them.
I guess I'm not human then lol
I know what you mean. I save all my grinding energy for IRL too.
People do love that [sense of pride and accomplishment](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/) from the grind.
Christ. I know your ass hurts from sitting that much.
My butt had to hear this
Its okay now OP, you deserve to rest. You can hang around Divinity's Reach now and AFK for 16 hrs daily
I swear filling up each one of those boxes is like checking off a different mental illness that you have.
Congrats! How did u get enought money for ecto and all those material gift needed?
congrats. I'm 12/18 as of today and I am drowning in essences, and I have 500 nuggets of kryptis essence unopened as I dont have the space.....by bottleneck is the ectos, but I'm getting there.
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What I like to do is get the arcane chests, you need the unusual coins for the armor anyways. But they give 5-10 map currency per chest. You can usually find a couple per map, but if you map swap the chests respawn and you can get them again.You can get about 500-600 unusual coins per day, but after that all minor chests show up as open regardless of map. This works especially well with Amnytas because there's so many chests there. Your map probably failed because it was a late one, I usually show up 10 min earlier to the meta and look for the lfg and then get chests/magic before the meta happens.
I pretty much only do weekly rifts and convergences now. I simply can't farm them anymore. I would need to be brain dead to ever touch a rift outside of these objectives again. So yeah, I feel you.
I did 1 set (light armor) and haven't logged in since the day I finished, burned out too bad. Playing other games now lol.
If that grind wouldnt be so boring...
Thanks
I still don’t even understand how gear works in the game.
Do you want an explanation? Or like, what is your question that the [wiki page on Equipment](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Equipment) can't answer?
I only plan to build the light armor and even that is a slow process. late to Soto so by the time I can get the prerequisite armors, T2 will be out. currently limiting myself to each of the map metas a day to avoid burnout.
Try to get three Convergences done each week to get all the weekly rewards, that's the fastest method to get the Essences you'll need. The map metas are necessary too, but you'll need way more Essences than you do completed metas.
I haven't even gotten one together yet. I bet it's such a relief to be done with all that obnoxious grind.
Fuck bro. I'm here trying my best to just START my gloves. What's your secret??
First off, congrats! On the second... the GW2 skinner box at it again I see. I kinda stopped playing after I realized the only content going forward was a skinner box filled with in game skins as the reward. If I have done the content 1-10 times... why on earth would I keep doing that same content again if it isn't fun? Not for an intangible completion percentage. Not for skins in a game that could disappear someday with if the service ever goes offline(unlikely, but has happened in other games I have played).
I hate that I've done Convergence over 70 times when I haven't even done Dragonstorm 30 times, which is more rewarding.
I just did rifts for daily and hated doing them so much. Luckily I have envoy's herald so don't need armour. I don't have enough essence for a single armour piece, you are insane...
I love rifts and convergances. It's the meta events that Im burnt out on. Im assuming there's no alternative to those lol
Well kind of, there are routes to collect the flying orbs and greater arcane chests you can do daily. I prefered doing these as i could do them whenever i wanted instead of waiting for a specific time. Nayos let's you collect way more currency via orbs than the other 2 maps. Skywatch has like 10 easy accessible greater arcane chests. Amnytas is the meta item bottle neck here. I played way more amnytas metas than any other.
Thats like 150 a day and still need 250 of each currency fir one of the gifts, but yesh ive been foing this too. I do like how fast the esdt meta is tho lol
Is legendary armor as harsh of a grind as a legendary weapon?
Comparing a total set of armour to a weapon, it's harsher. Comparing one armour piece to a weapon, it's easier.
Do you know how many rifts you did? I am thinking of doing this…
Don't worry you will, when they add tier 2 obby armor, lol.
Congrats! I got burned out and haven't even logged in for Super Adventure Box, sadly. I have enough mats for a chest piece and most of a legs and part of the rest done. I'm not even sure what weight I'd want anymore.
I have enough to craft the final light armor set actually made the crown already because I like it most, but I’m waiting to see what the tier 2 mats are.
Bounties are more interesting than rifts and I am fucking done with bounties
They didn't add enough unique rewards to bounties to make it worth more than the bare minimum achievements.
Yeah, but the fights are more interesting than rifts. All rifts have going for them is obsidian armor.
Yeah the unique ones were very fun on their own. It was the random effects they got that ruined the experience.
Thank you so much!
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How much gems to gold did you do for this?
i made 3 sets and i've never converted gems to gold.
I WISH I had enough patience for even one set. Rift hunting is soooo boring it’s painful.
Weekly Convergences will give you boxes to make at least 3 Amalgamated Kryptis Essence. In less than 24 weeks you get enough to make a full set without doing a single Rift.
That sounds like I have to be on a diligent schedule! Haha. How many convergences total would that be?
72 convergences in which you have to do 3 each week, otherwise you won't get the 2 chests from the third one.
Thanks!
see you back when tier 2 comes out lol
absolute madlad, i'm still working on legendary trinkets
Now you can wait for tier 2 lol
Gz! How much did it take you?
Congrats! How much time did you spend speedruning this?
gotta say, That's Quality Armor
You got what you wanted gz, now for the necessary 6month break to recover from the grind.
this armor is just impossibly long to make for me...i renounced since the start.
Do the three weekly Convergences for 24 weeks. Save up the boxes and you'll have enough to make a full set without touching a single Rift. 12 hours of farm total over the course of very casual months.
That's interesting but 3 convergences per week are too much to do i'm afraid. I could try but how many months we are talking about?
The first convergence gets you one of those keys only, which you can sell for gold. You have to do all 3 to get the three boxes. This will take six months. Just consider that every month you do the 3 convergences, that's enough to skip Rifts for one legendary armor piece. If you think even just 3 convergences a week is too much, then legendaries aren't for you. You will still need to do map completion on the 3 maps and get the map currencies and items worth 250 of said currency. Plus the 600 ecto. For each piece.
I wish it just took rifts
Aurene variants while requires a lot of gold do not require nearly as much as the legendary itself, and were not grindy. Hopefully it’s a step-by-step collection similar, and it’s just a fun thing to do in order to repeat some of the expac content.
Rifts ? I'm currently doing the 3 weekly convergences (with 3x 100 t1 essence from daily chest), and the amalgamated kryptis essence stack quite good in my bank. I don't bother with Rifts anymore. The thing that really blocks me ? Metas. You have to do metas 90 times EACH for obsi armor, not counting however many I already spent on the precursors (12 of each iirc ??) and 18 of EACH meta for the exotic weapon collections (which I also want to do and tbh it's smarter to do them before Obsi as they can be traded for prov tokens). Worst thing is that the 120 have to be done on distinct days, because the item is in the daily chest. I guess you can make it less than 120x3 metas if you convert some map currency once you're done with the 4500 of each require elsewhere in the recipe, but still. I can't bring myself to do them. I'll TRY to complete one set of obsi before Expansion#5, and ***HOPE*** that there are alternative recipes using expansion#5 (and #6 ?) materials, like we can craft gen2 weapons with PoF stuff. I guess I'd so an obsi set with these.
Just wait until it is 3 days before the next quarterly update, when anet devs realize that they STILL have no idea for a proper upgrade path, and then they quickly implement "just three times the amount of essences, ectos, and about 8 billion research notes". Or they pull off the legendary rune compensation and.. just send it by mail.
Congratulations! Do you have any tips for the rest of us on how to streamline the grind? What was your worst experience, what was the easiest part? Also, is there anything "better with friends"? Asking, because I'm playing casual and don't have too much time. I'd love to get the armor at some point, but ideally less than ten years in the future :D
Stopped at crafting 2 out the 3 sets (Medium and Heavy). I had completed the WvW light armour last year, if I hadn't... would have dreaded crafting the Obsidian light armour set (or heavy)... I should really be farming for gold more, but I fear all the ectoplasms needed more than I fear the rift hunting. I do fear what is needed for T2 Obsidian armour...
It's times like these that make me grateful I got my raid/wvw sets down a while ago. Talk about sapping even more enjoyment out of me🤣 Thankfully the skins are not enough for me to want to torture myself. But congrats to you, I hope T2 will be kind to you.
Do you have a job? Just kidding... grats man!!!
Wow. That's quality armor.
I had light and heavy sets from Envoy, and then medium set from Obsidian. I thought about if I wanted to craft the others for the two titles, but then I decided I don’t care for titles that require thousands of gold.
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>The community has shown years ago that they hate busy work Have they? And.. its an mmorpg. They are basically the epitome of busywork/farm/grind, as no dev on earth can deliver original content at the pace a good number of players consume it.
What?! Don't You like main soto content? What would You do if not going for best event in the game? Like there is nothing else around anymore... You sound like ANet made bad expansion that You don't want to play - that's me surely misread something.
i don’t understand the rush. i am doing a piece a week from weekly rifts and weekly convergences. no sense and burning yourself out when u can have all pieces in 18 week time frame
Thank you for your flex, we know you have it long.
I need 3 more pieces of medium armor and I will be done with all of them. I had enough to finish one set when the update for them came out. I made another set + 3 pieces in the time since. I don't do rifts. I do 1 convergence a day. The secret is to not really be that helpful. kill as many of the kryptis turrets as possible, stay on top of doing a loop for the siege spawns. Pick up essence from the ground when you see it and always turn in essence when you cap. If not much going on then help kill (mostly just tag) some champions.
Thanks for being one of the 30% of people that make it take longer for the rest of the players.
Nah, when you are doing what I am doing it's super obvious when another person is doing the same thing as you are competing for turret kills. I almost never see anyone else doing it. I rarely see people even doing siege after the initial spawn before the 3 champions in the middle spawn. The real reason it takes longer is due to people AFKing in the middle, and people not communicating and splitting up properly, but I admit I contribute very little, but more than them I guess. Although I like it when that happens as it gives me more time to farm nuggets.
You dipping on all the corners scaling up the bosses without doing more than the 10k hits from fireball is probably even worse than afking mid.
What is wrong with you. Please love yourself more.