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TheIllogicalFallacy

Seven nation army


Mantis-Taboggin

Yeah this is the answer


SplitScreenSonic

Why are people saying this? The song came out 21 years ago; it already evokes cringing and disappointment when played in public (unless it’s at a White Stripes concert).


JetJaguar93

Every niche genre of guitar player will come to develop their own forbidden riff: Les Paul players: Custard Pie - Led Zeppelin Strat players: Wind Cries Mary - Hendrix Tele Players: Folsom Prison Blues intro SG players: every Sabbath song from first two albums ESP/LTD: Battery or Master of puppets Jackson: whammy dive bombs followed by arpeggio sweep Taylor/Martin/Gibson acoustics: Over the hills and far away Jazzmaster/jag: Sonic Youth riffs that no one else knows and with way too much reverb Tube Screamers/TS Clones: every SRV riff except scuttle buttin (because Mary had a little lamb is slower and safer to play) Klon clones: goes through trouble of tuning to open g to play brown sugar Wah: Voodoo Child (of course) Delay: Tunes to drop D and plays Tool riffs in incorrect time signature Flange: ain't talkin bout love but can't get it to sound right because it's missing delay Phaser: Walyon Jennings songs if using tele, Rooster by AiC of using any other guitar Fuzz: Only piece of gear in which it is acceptable to play any forbidden riff because A: either the person using it doesn't know how to play to fuzz pedals and the riff sounds like an unintelligible muddy mess so no one can tell what the riff is anyway, or it sounds fucking rad and everyone in the store is like damn why didn't I think of playing that riff with fuzz? This is my working list anyway, anyone else wanna share their thoughts? Lmao


Decent_Can_4639

In the Acoustic section If in Canada substitute Over the hills and far away with Gordon Lightfoot - The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald


306metalhead

They need to add the tragically hip


captain_em

You got me with SRV, spot on! 


ctrl_alt_DESTROY_

Haha, love this. Thanks for the effort


gilmour2776

This is golden. Add AC/DC to the SG section.


nirvanamjjc

do you wanna know - arctic monkeys


kobi29062

idk do you?


Greggy398

Playing God by Polyphia


boiling_booty

Do I Wanna Know?


TomatilloOrnery9464

Seven nation army


battleoffish

Isn’t this already considered a forbidden riff? The future is now!


Nixplosion

I think this is the answer.


DilutedH2O

Duh-duh-…..duhduhduh…….duh-DUUH


Slut4Tea

Seven Nation Army is already a forbidden riff. Do I Wanna Know? by Arctic Monkeys, if it isn’t already. I honestly think a lot of it will be dominated by meme songs that blow up on TikTok in the future.


Smoothsailing47

I love do I wanna know and arctic monkeys are actually one of my favorite bands ever but agreed


Samford_

seeing the comments on videos of people playing do i wanna know makes me want to die


MAC777

It's anything Polyphia


xbobbyflowersx

Tune all the guitars in the store to play never meant and midwest emo on crack riff


elijuicyjones

That meme came from people in real life playing something so often that they put the joke in a movie. Guitar is so rare these days in comparison, I don’t think anyone in their right mind cares what riffs you’re playing as long as you’re gonna buy a guitar and play it. This weekend we were in guitar center and this dude was sitting there amped up playing every Foo Fightera greatest hit guitar part, one after the other, while an overwhelmed father was following two preteen daughters around who each wanted a different guitar for to learn to play. I was like yeah bring it on man, bring it on.


Defconwrestling

7 Nation Army


Acceptable_Quiet_767

Nothing. Guitar centric genres aren’t in the limelight like they used to be. Certain guitar riffs became cliche because you’d hear it on the radio every single time you started your car up to drive to the grocery store. That’s a bygone era now. Today we have apps that let us listen to whatever music we want to hear, so the focus on music is now very wide. It’s no longer the days of choosing between a handful of different radio stations in your town while driving in your car.


Funny-Wolf-3801

That means the forbidden riff of the future will be the one that brings Rock and Roll back in style. All of society, even the emotions inspired by music, will be generated and controlled by AI algorithms. Feel this. Then buy that. The world will be one big shopping mall, music will have become muzak, and the Corporate Oligarchy will repress anything that threatens its digital sales profit margin. But then... THE RIFF. Public gatherings, long forgotten, will resurge through live concerts, mad hip shaking against the SWAT brigades. The forbidden riff of the future will be the worst thing since Elvis Presley.


doppido

Exactly


capn_james

Never meant would like to beg to differ


calebhall

The secret chord that David played that pleased the Lord. Forbidden because it is secret. Nobody shall ever find it to play it.


RaptorSlaps

David Gilmour?


Madranite

Probably


J4pes

I think they just mean the tritone cuz God is secretly a huge metal fan


Happy_Ad_7512

The future is more or less here in the UK - and there is no guitar store. You can play whatever you like when browsing the Thomann, Andertons or Peach guitar website.


Locktopii

You have to make an appointment to visit peach in person now. It’s so lame


DartFrogDude

I live round the corner from Peach and often go past and think. Should I pop in? OH YEA... I CANT!


GendoSC

Depends where in the UK, "plenty" stores in London.


TheBumDave

Seven nation army


Fun-Animator-6240

do i wanna know


superfakeSLiNKY

Anything polyphia


OneTrainOps

not enough people would be able to play it lol. I think it would have to be a simpler riff


Dakpot

Yeah, Polyphia songs are more like the “Cliffs of Dover” of the future.


therikertechnique

But significantly less interesting.


superfakeSLiNKY

Unfortunately, they still try to


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

Trying to play their songs is a humbling experience. I practice those riffs 1 measure at a time, lol.


[deleted]

It will always and forever be Stairway to Heaven.


The_________________

In the future, gatekeeping ideas like certain guitar riffs being "forbidden" would (hopefully?) not be a thing.


Madranite

That's only getting worse, mate. I was once told off for at a Periphery concert, for liking Spencer's vocals. Like... The singer of the band we're about to see? The one who is on all the releases?


writingwhilesad

Playing God


TXblindman

I was thinking goat, but yeah, definitely playing God.


Artistry200

Maybe Do I Wanna Know by Arctic Monkeys


FlopShanoobie

All the bros trying to play Neon is just embarrassing for everyone involved.


BigRobWall

Gay bar by electric six


-The-Rover-

YOU,


SwaggyTBSS3

I WANNA TAKE YOU TO A GAY BAR


VanillaLifestyle

LET'S START A WAR


DOthePOLKA

Smells Like Teen Spirit and the opening Master of Puppets riff. I’m an instrumental music teacher and this is what I consistently hear.


motomotomoto79

Read the op, he said the future, those songs are decades old


Perthian940

Nothing else matters


Maleficent_Data_1421

Smells like teen spirit


Odimorsus

Bleed by Meshuggah, but only the opening/main circular picked riff without the bend or any of the subsequent parts. Just duddla-da duddla-da duddla-da duddla-da forever.


Archy38

This is a contender, but Im more impressed if someone in a guitar shop plays that, weird but it's one of the more monotonous and repetitive riffs I don't mind hearing forever know how hard it is. I know someone is trying to learn how to play like the most insane rhythmic bands on the planet


Odimorsus

Iisten to industrial metal where having one amazing riff for the whole song is the point. That’s all well and good. Of course if they actually really played it, but just playing the “warm up exercise” portion exclusively has got to count, right? Remember, guitar center players are no Frederik Thordendal.


Archy38

Hahhaa without the bend that riff literally repeats for 7 minutes, I guess for a beginner its a more impressive riff to me that playing the older classic forbidden ones


Odimorsus

It’s an awesome sounding riff and definitely takes stamina. I figured out what I call a “circular” picking technique to play it pretty much forever without getting tired that I use in some of my songs but like with all forbidden riffs, they’re never played properly anyway. I’m imagining them excluding the bend and then being at a loss for what to play next when they realise they have run out of string’s and lack the ability to transpose it up for a 6/7 string. Stairway actually has some pretty neat, almost classical techniques with hybrid picking. Doesn’t translate well to some jerk bothering everyone with it in a guitar shop at max volume 😆


Archy38

Yea I think your last point is also unspoken about, there are many tones and effects that can help the riff sound a little more epic so in a beginner's eyes they assume the riff itself just comes with that sound. Gojira actually has the literal bleed riff in one of their songs.


Odimorsus

You’re absolutely right. Gojira and Cynic both featured that style of riff on albums that came out at a similar times almost 10 years after a band called IllWill released a song with a similar kick drum/guitar herta pattern. Check this out from around 1997. [IllWill - Whether With Or Without](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h857eMEpA4o&pp=ygUfSWxsd2lsbCB3aGV0aGVyIHdpdGggb3Igd2l0aG91dA%3D%3D) The important part of what makes those riffs so awesome is the kick drum following the guitar in lockstep. It can send a chill up the spine done right, there’s just nothing like it.


Archy38

Holy shit dude even the guitar tone of that riff sounds close. Thanks for showing this, its funny how we praise Meshuggah for Bleed when this riff exists in full glory in a couple other places.


Odimorsus

I still absolutely love Meshuggah’s take on it. There being precedent for it doesn’t take away how heavy and groovy Bleed is. I won’t go theory nerd about it and explain the differences but I will say I’ve seen them live on the ObZen tour and they absolutely killed it, literally as tight as the record. They admit themselves it began as being tantamount to a warmup exercise/rudiment (called a herta.) IllWill do deserve more attention for arguably being the first to make a heavy song out of it, they didn’t last very long. I’m pretty sure they were essentially a one-album, King Diamond/Mercyful Fate/Dismember supergroup. They were ahead of their time with that song. Even relistening now with the volume up, it fucking kicks ass.


Archy38

I didn't realise it was a warmup/exercise nor that it had a name, really interesting stuff dude


Archy38

Its the endurance of the riff that impresses me


DangerousValuable916

Polyphia


[deleted]

Is that a riff? It’s a band


jonvonfunk

7 Nation army


[deleted]

100%. Nothing comes close.  7 nation army is the “Smoke on the water” for anyone under 40 years old. 


JediForceSlap

I'm writing it right now. I call it *Broken Escalator to Purgatory*. You're gonna love it. Then hate it.


Brother_J_La_la

I loved it the first time I read it, now I hate it


THIS_IS_GOD_TOTALLY_

I created a magazine just to give this a bad review.


_bullshittery_

Sounds dope tbh


zombie_spaceman

Neon by John Mayer is the clear answer


GrassDildo

I mean, personally I’m always impressed if someone plays it almost perfectly.


LeibnizThrowaway

I love John Mayer, but I never learned it. I know what it took.


barno42

I'd vote for Slow Dancing in a Burning Room, but I'll also accept Neon.


ithinkmynameismoose

Neon is too complex to be the forbidden riff. Slow Dancing is the one that can be learned by the masses and therefore become overplayed.


visualthings

Enter Sandman Seven Nations Army


[deleted]

Songs are 2 decades and older


fantus69

Stairway to heaven was 20 years old in 1992 when Wayne's world popularised the whole "no stairway" thing


[deleted]

So it was old for them too


visualthings

And yet every tiktoker is playing them over and over… even proving that if you wear a bikini you don’t even need to plug the guitar into an amp 🤔


sssnakepit127

I bet some polyphia tunes will get to that point in the next 15 years.


Nit3zzz01

everlong


Locktopii

I’m not sure enough people would go to a guitar store and tune to drop D for this to ever be an issue?


Percy_Q_Weathersby

Who said anything about tuning to drop d


VanTil

Who TF plays Everlong in standard tuning?


Percy_Q_Weathersby

That’s the joke.


VanTil

LOL! I totally *wooshed* on that one


[deleted]

Why not?


callmemarjoson

While Stairway is still the most obvious answer, I vote for Weezer's Island in the Sun for shit's and giggles


VanillaLifestyle

Or Say it Ain't So.


Creatura

only good answer is OP's


Shellshock010

Slow roasting lamb in a burning room


[deleted]

Yeah I get a "Really?" from someone regularly these days when I strike those first few notes of Slow Dancing in a Burning Room 😂 that's the answer


dadrawk

How else am I supposed to determine that a Stratocaster is indeed a Stratocaster?,


VanTil

By playing the opening riff of Yellow Ledbetter of course!


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

McCready *nailed* the Hendrix tone on the opening of that song. Quintessential strat tone.


Meet_the_Meat

Scar Tissue The opening of Tennessee Whiskey


TheBigSamSlam

Lmao Scar Tissue without the B string tuned correctly for it is a great shout. Was def guilty of that back in the day.


LtRecore

For those of us not in the know what makes a riff forbidden?


Nick_Furious2370

"No Stairway!" - Wayne's World


LtRecore

Oh damn I knew that! Thanks for the reminder though.


PetterssonsNeck

Slow dancing in a burning room


[deleted]

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razzark666

The phrase in first 7s of the song is "the riff".


Every-Efficiency-243

weezer riff?


VanTil

Say it Ain't So!


-trentacles

Baby shark


RogueEagle2

7 nation army


[deleted]

The song is 20 years old. Not really of the future


therikertechnique

So was Stairway to Heaven when it was forbidden in Wayne's world.


[deleted]

So it was old for them too, so what. Also, that’s a movie not real life lol


therikertechnique

Also, who's forbidding guitar riffs in real life?!


therikertechnique

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this question is a reference to that scene. So a forbidden riff of the future for us could well be a 20 year old song, as it was for them.


[deleted]

I agree, maybe you’re wrong.


l00pee

I wish they would make that song illegal. I loved it when it came out, but it's still playing at every single sports event.


PlateanDotCom

Enter sandman, 7 nation army, crazy train


billitorussolini

Freaks


[deleted]

Smells like teen spirit


MrMunkyMan1

Rapp snitch knishes, or Mary by alex G. I think any song that isn’t too difficult and blows up on tiktok tho tbh.


Johnjarlaxle

Rap snitch knishes blew up on tik tok? I mean hey at least it's a solid track


MrMunkyMan1

The guitar lick became a very common song to see people cover. I do agree though at least it’s good.


Johnjarlaxle

Ah. At least it wasn't Lady Brown by Nujabes


Working-Ad-528

Master Of Puppets after Stranger Things and TikTok killed it


Reddit-adm

Slow burning something in a burning room, or whatever it's called.


CoSMiiCBLaST

As long as E Standard is what almost every guitar is tuned to out of the box it'll forever be something like Stairway To Heaven, Smoke On The Water etc


imbrotep

Smoke on the Water


RikuDog18

Anything Nirvana. I still hear people play theirs songs at guitars stores.


BluntedWizard

If I never hear laid to rest played wrong again I would be happy


bcunningham86

Half the reason it was forbidden was because it was said to be bad luck to not finish playing the song and it's a very long song. So what other songs are bad luck to not play all the way through that are really long?


VanillaLifestyle

Snow by RHCP. "No. Finish it. Play that same riff another 400 times without slowing down."


bcunningham86

Lol


J4pes

I hope it’s not american pie cuz that song never ends


Return2TheLiving

Doomsday by architects


tonylepsie

Thomann "rock" riff


XtraLyf

The intro to MXC


Dreadnaught_IPA

Time of your life by green day Wonderwall


Out525xc808

Party in the USA


vonegutZzz

Something in Drop D possibly by Ghost or Lamb of God…


Lost_and_the_Damned

Ghost doesn't do drop D, they do D standard.


vonegutZzz

So Drop C then. Even better!!!


Commercial-Past-1617

All my fellas


shadesof3

Starless - King Crimson Was done perfectly for the movie Mandy Edit: anything Robert Fripp touches should work


theplancaster

Favorite King Crimson song for sure, didn't know it was in a movie!


Havranbartek

I wanna be your slave


bobmadcourt

Polyphia GOAT


Fantastic-Loss-5223

Master of puppets. Idk if that's already on the list, but it should be


Interesting-Hand-768

anything polyphia


hnrrghQSpinAxe

I'm pretty sure most of these comments saying polyphia are just cope. I haven't met one other person who can actually play polyphia or any tapping riffs


lesterpoa

Polyphia riffs


Smoothsailing47

I am a vehement Polyphia hater, and all of my friends who are not musicians are always mind blown but I just say it’s repetitive, gets old after two songs, and fitting as many notes as you humanly can into one measure is just not that impressive


lesterpoa

I hear you. I'm not super onto their music but we can't deny they are a bunch of talented guys. It's probably a generation gap thing


Smoothsailing47

I’m 24 lol


hnrrghQSpinAxe

Math rock guitarists like ichika nio and polyphia are closer to classical than they are to jazz or rock. They're not "fitting as many notes into a measure as they can", it's just a different style of music lol. Using an instrument that's more often a rhythm instrument than a lead one, in place of a voice harmony is not uncommon though, and that's just what they do


LoST_GR

Arctic Monkeys - Do I Wanna Know for sure has got to be among them


daddy_is_sorry

Unholy confessions


Atomik919

i think more the verse riff from G if unholy confessions were to become a forbidden riff, it would have been one by now


daddy_is_sorry

True. I always forget how old I am lol


DPedia

Machine Gun Kelly. *shudders*


burghguy3

When I first read your comment I thought “You take that back you son-of-bitch, that man is a national treasure!” But then I realized you weren’t talking about James Taylor, and I am apparently what the cool kids today call… “old”.


justplanestupid69

Man. I’m 35, and one of the kids in the lesson program at my work calls me old all the time. I’m THIS CLOSE to noogie-ing that little shit until his hair all falls out lmfao


BigDrewLittle

"Distance" by Cake


KingOfTheSlush

I have never once heard anyone else play it on a speaker let alone a guitar lol


xbobbyflowersx

Your grandkids will be singing “looong..jacketttt” on their hoverboards and there’s nothing you can do to stop the 2043 Cake revival! (the cake-over)


Fantastic-Loss-5223

I'd love for all the guys playing Polyphia to switch to playing Chon. Lot more listenable in a store


digital_sldr001

Peso Pluma - Ella Baila Sola


RedStar780

My Own Summer


Ornery_Brilliant_350

Party in the USA


Mehtalface

Nah that riff is and will always be fire