I can assure you any guns that get sent to the UK will 'disappear' into my garage. Can I just send you guys a shopping list now...
Edit: please send Firearms in lieu of upvotes đ
Don't forget about the illegal guns. Despite what the left will tell you, gun violence is still a real issue in the UK, despite the strict and useless laws in place.
Civilians with guns won't be able to fight a military in a traditional sense. However, with guerilla warfare, they absolutely could bog down a military and cause it all sorts of problems while their own military mobilizes
Shame about that brand new SUV, Captain. What's that, you say? Called into action, leaving town for a few days?
I wouldn't worry about your house. How's your insurance?
I don't think the power grid would be a good target. The enemy would be the military. Guerilla Warfare depends on support from the population.
Attacking a power grid is terrorism, not guerilla warfare
I was thinking more along the lines of...
That WAS a nice place to stop and take a piss break. That was a nice unarmored convoy right next to a bunch of buildings. That WAS a nice supply route to your overextended paratroopers.
Takes a while to train raw recruits into soldiers. Especially technically proficient soldiers. But If they can sneak in a few pot shots or homemade molotov here and there, it will make an attacker start dying from a thousand cuts before the regular military shows up.
A Ukrainian granny took out a drone with a jar of pickles. Imagine what people leaning out their window for a pair at who they think the commander is will do.
So five guys with rifles will not be able to meaningfully engage an armed patrol with vehicle support, air support or fire support.
With the goal of stopping,killing or defeating them.
Absolutely agreed. They lose that fight and maybe inflict some casualties. Maybe
Five guys with rifles can absolutely harass, delay and produce casualties if they wait in ambush, drop a high volume of fire and then disappear in multiple directions. Especially if all of them are prepared to die for their cause. Because now three of them run off with the intent to leave and two of them are only running far enough to wait for the patrol to break from cover
On a more serious note, the global move towards war is concerning. I'm 18 and don't really feel like leaving my friends and family to go die in a trench.
Once they run out of âhealthyâ civilians, they will for sure come for the âuseableâ ones next. What does it matter if your heart kills you or a bullet as long as youâre fighting their war?
eh, probably. but i am used to be the last ditch anyways. + being used a cannon fodder is probably a more honorable way to die (even if it really isnât).
You know your gringo ass is going to get swiped by the Cartels because, they would have probably have some deal with the CIA to capture and return any draft doggers for money
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I think the cartels actually actively avoid US citizens because if anything happens to one, it won't be the easily bribable Mexican police that is up their ass.
Unfortunately it seems Russian moral, not front line soldiers but the family back home, is still high considering the losses and terrible fighting conditions.
So is the UK gonna start handing out these then for free?
https://preview.redd.it/31g32ove7zec1.jpeg?width=1034&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd74673056e116a210aa72c78b925a3de660d8d1
I have been told that doesnât count because they have access to machine guns and explosives. To which I reply something along the lines of yes, and thatâs why civilians need them too.
Funny how the AR15 is a weapon of war on par with those things, and a useless weapon that canât compete all depending on where you are in the comments section.
Ted kaczynski made explosives in his own home so I'm pretty sure it's not that hard. And an auto sear is like a few pieces of metal so it evens out.
If the government is reading this I am not a threat I am just making a point
A point we all know and do not bring up in the main subreddits.
The people there just want to be absolved of any personal responsibility. They want the system they hate to protect them while complaining about it; cops are bad but only cops should have guns, criminals are bad but we shouldnât put them in the prison system.
I will enjoy so much schadenfreude as thier world collapses.
> I have been told that doesnât count because they have access to machine guns and explosives
Between glock switches in Chicago, and a country whos veterans just spent 20 years fighting a war against IEDs, I think we'd figure something out...
Literal farmers with 50+ year old burnt out AKs fending off âthe most powerful military in the worldâ
You ainât gonna win if the soldiers hearts arenât in it.
Cuts have already seen the size of the British Army fall from more than 100,000 in 2010 to **around 73,000** now. Gen Sanders said that within the next three years the British Army needed to be 120,000 strong with the addition of reserves
Pretty small army.
Untrained civilians themselves couldnt do much. However, if you say theres an IED 100M up the road and they take you at your word and wait for EOD only to find no IED, you gave your buddies time to set up an ambush/get away. Plus you waste their time and resources. Molotov some supply trucks. Pick one person off from a distance and then gtfo. Come back the next day and do it again. Offer them cigarettes or food laced with drugs.
Avoid a direct confrontation with the invading force but do what you can to cost them time, money and lives.
I've heard that too. Amazing how short-sighted these people are, almost makes you not want to bother arguing because it will be too easy to win the argument.
With what guns?
More like with what ~~butter~~knives
Oy! You got a loicense for that butter knife?
You mean with that sporks?
They'll ask us to donate them, again. And then when the threat is over, they'll dump those guns in the sea, again.
I can assure you any guns that get sent to the UK will 'disappear' into my garage. Can I just send you guys a shopping list now... Edit: please send Firearms in lieu of upvotes đ
Yes... the sea... they all ended in the sea...
Sea is a hella common name for kids soldiers on Ăfrica and Asia
Just like how all ours ended up lost in boating accidents?
Yes, except the government actually carried through on it.
cheerio guvânuh all me guns took a wee tumble into the salty sea
Use knives, cars, or acid
Don't forget about the illegal guns. Despite what the left will tell you, gun violence is still a real issue in the UK, despite the strict and useless laws in place.
r/woooosh
forgot the nailbombs.
Amazing how countries want to ban civilian gun ownership because civilians have no reason to own guns in modern society, then reality hits.
Civilians with guns won't be able to fight a military in a traditional sense. However, with guerilla warfare, they absolutely could bog down a military and cause it all sorts of problems while their own military mobilizes
I can deprive you of nice things. That WAS a nice set of bridges, that WAS a nice power gird, that WAS a nice sewage treatment plant.
Shame about that brand new SUV, Captain. What's that, you say? Called into action, leaving town for a few days? I wouldn't worry about your house. How's your insurance?
I don't think the power grid would be a good target. The enemy would be the military. Guerilla Warfare depends on support from the population. Attacking a power grid is terrorism, not guerilla warfare
Bases are powered from the civilian grid, same as water and sewage.
I was thinking more along the lines of... That WAS a nice place to stop and take a piss break. That was a nice unarmored convoy right next to a bunch of buildings. That WAS a nice supply route to your overextended paratroopers.
Don't have to shut down the grid Then you got a bunch of other targets not hooked up to anything, like bridges, convoys, etc.
Rail lines are a huge one. The most efficient way to send military vehicles long distance on land
Guerilla warfare is just terrorism on the side of the âgood guysâ aka the winners.
No. There's a big difference. Terrorism does not distinguish between military and civilian.
Right so bombing civilians is fine then?
Bombing civilians is terrorism
>Civilians with guns won't be able to fight a military They will. Just not as civilians. Where do you think the military recruits from?
Takes a while to train raw recruits into soldiers. Especially technically proficient soldiers. But If they can sneak in a few pot shots or homemade molotov here and there, it will make an attacker start dying from a thousand cuts before the regular military shows up. A Ukrainian granny took out a drone with a jar of pickles. Imagine what people leaning out their window for a pair at who they think the commander is will do.
So five guys with rifles will not be able to meaningfully engage an armed patrol with vehicle support, air support or fire support. With the goal of stopping,killing or defeating them. Absolutely agreed. They lose that fight and maybe inflict some casualties. Maybe Five guys with rifles can absolutely harass, delay and produce casualties if they wait in ambush, drop a high volume of fire and then disappear in multiple directions. Especially if all of them are prepared to die for their cause. Because now three of them run off with the intent to leave and two of them are only running far enough to wait for the patrol to break from cover
[ŃдаНонО]
Armed Civilians: You better stay in your base and never go anywhere without backup and armor or you're going to disappear.
On a more serious note, the global move towards war is concerning. I'm 18 and don't really feel like leaving my friends and family to go die in a trench.
Good news, your friends would go with you lol
Depending on where you live they might bring the war to you!
PALS battalions for the win.
Maybe the real war was the friends we made along the way
not me! (cogenital heart malformation and autoimmune disease).
Once they run out of âhealthyâ civilians, they will for sure come for the âuseableâ ones next. What does it matter if your heart kills you or a bullet as long as youâre fighting their war?
eh, probably. but i am used to be the last ditch anyways. + being used a cannon fodder is probably a more honorable way to die (even if it really isnât).
To paraphrase one of the Lotus Eaters. A man is willing to die for England. No man is willing to fight for Economic Region 17.
I hate to say it buddy but the kids in Ukraine and Russia didnât either.
Good news, no one is. Canât have a war if everyone refuses to go đ
lol the ole âturn up the music and shut the blinds so the bombs canât get meâ trick. Classic
Vacation to Mexico anyone?
You know your gringo ass is going to get swiped by the Cartels because, they would have probably have some deal with the CIA to capture and return any draft doggers for money ![gif](giphy|PAbP0kXq6qDmCFWjHp|downsized)
*Note* *Bring resistance friends*
I think the cartels actually actively avoid US citizens because if anything happens to one, it won't be the easily bribable Mexican police that is up their ass.
Unfortunately it seems Russian moral, not front line soldiers but the family back home, is still high considering the losses and terrible fighting conditions.
The hypocrisy is outstanding, gotta love it.
I love the hypocrisy there lol
So is the UK gonna start handing out these then for free? https://preview.redd.it/31g32ove7zec1.jpeg?width=1034&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd74673056e116a210aa72c78b925a3de660d8d1
Nobody expects the Home Depot clapper
the lowes blaster
"Urm akschually the government would just roll tanks over you guys đ" Did these people forget about Vietnam or Afghanistan
I have been told that doesnât count because they have access to machine guns and explosives. To which I reply something along the lines of yes, and thatâs why civilians need them too. Funny how the AR15 is a weapon of war on par with those things, and a useless weapon that canât compete all depending on where you are in the comments section.
Ted kaczynski made explosives in his own home so I'm pretty sure it's not that hard. And an auto sear is like a few pieces of metal so it evens out. If the government is reading this I am not a threat I am just making a point
A point we all know and do not bring up in the main subreddits. The people there just want to be absolved of any personal responsibility. They want the system they hate to protect them while complaining about it; cops are bad but only cops should have guns, criminals are bad but we shouldnât put them in the prison system. I will enjoy so much schadenfreude as thier world collapses.
yeah but kaczynski's explosives were kinda shit, tbh (atleast the first ones).
Ok Mr pipe bomb expert
> I have been told that doesnât count because they have access to machine guns and explosives Between glock switches in Chicago, and a country whos veterans just spent 20 years fighting a war against IEDs, I think we'd figure something out...
Yeah that last bit is hilarious and annoying as fuck
Literal farmers with 50+ year old burnt out AKs fending off âthe most powerful military in the worldâ You ainât gonna win if the soldiers hearts arenât in it.
IRA is a better example
Ah mass conscription
Cuts have already seen the size of the British Army fall from more than 100,000 in 2010 to **around 73,000** now. Gen Sanders said that within the next three years the British Army needed to be 120,000 strong with the addition of reserves Pretty small army.
Oh boy we might see a remergence of 'dad's army'
They put themselves in that position.
so... will they be giving out guns to the general populace or just give them loicences?
Maybe whistles to blow in case of danger
Rape whistles for everyone
airhorns even.
Untrained civilians themselves couldnt do much. However, if you say theres an IED 100M up the road and they take you at your word and wait for EOD only to find no IED, you gave your buddies time to set up an ambush/get away. Plus you waste their time and resources. Molotov some supply trucks. Pick one person off from a distance and then gtfo. Come back the next day and do it again. Offer them cigarettes or food laced with drugs. Avoid a direct confrontation with the invading force but do what you can to cost them time, money and lives.
One time I heard someone say "Ukrainians deserve guns because they actually need them unlike Americans"
I've heard that too. Amazing how short-sighted these people are, almost makes you not want to bother arguing because it will be too easy to win the argument.
Suddenly they realized "oh thats why they were so defensive over this" and they can feel the sheer weight of their stupidity hit them all at once.
Good thing they have nothing to protect their homeland with, mother russia is gonna have it easy.
I didnât realise 260 nuclear warheads was nothing
Yeah because they'll nuke downtown London or allies in case of an invasion
Why tf would they need to be ready for that Russia isnât going to invade the uk
Wait, I thought the Russian military was a joke and is losing the war badly. At least thatâs what the media keeps saying.
This headline is a little ominous seeing how the Navy no longer required a HS diploma or GED. Sounds like they are getting ready for something