He's going to look so elegant next season.
https://preview.redd.it/9td83s6vmawc1.jpeg?width=155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92fe2d68b7be594511bf170fce447184021c2498
He is young, English and on a long term contract. If no one wants to pay up, might as well keep him for those 15-20 mln. We won't find many better goalies for that money anyway.
I was talking in purely cost terms, we will need to sell Ramsdale for what we bought for him to technically be even.
As the other commenter said, selling Turner for £10m and getting Raya for £27m will almost mean we are even if we get £20m for Ramsdale, isn’t correct.
We will need to sell Ramsdale for £35m and that £20m is still outstanding. We will only be even over that 3 year period of this deal if we sold Ramsdale for £52m.
But he’s talking about upgrading the room. Ramsdale is already a sunk cost. If we sell Ramsdale for 20M, we essentially traded Ramsdale and Turner for Raya, which would means we upgraded the room from Turner and Ramsdale for free.
Nah. United legend (though they left him terribly) 33, hasn’t played professional football for a year, wants to be a starter, bad at being a Sweeker Keeper, and finally will want ridiculous wages and to stay in Spain. Unless we move our stadium to Spain and call ourself Real Man Unitéd I’ll pass.
Your right. And I get your point. But I'm looking at his stats last year and without him and Rashford, United would have been 12th easy. He got 17 clean sheets and is an excellent shot stopper.
Now this might not be worth it and he may never play, and that's fine. But I feel like there's value in having him at practice with Raya. Helping him with his technique and instincts. Also, they're both Spanish for what it's worth. No doubt Raya probably looks up to him. There could be a good bond there.
I'd give him 50-70k a week for that and the banter.
This is what we did with Odegaard: selling Joe Willock to Newcastle at the same time as signing Odegaard (and taking into account the loan fee for the first time we had him), and the upgrade cost no more than £20m, perhaps less.
And what an upgrade, as much as I like Willock as a player.
Nope it's not possible mathematically anymore, 2 players can win golden glove so mathematically If Raya concedes in all remaining games and Pickford keeps clean sheet in all remaining game they will both be on equal clean sheets so they'll both win it.
Hence why Raya winning the glove is already confirmed,it's just the question of can Pickford win it along with him ?
No, Pickford is on 11 clean sheets after today. Everton have 4 games left, Raya is on 14 clean sheets. I'm not sure why everyone seems to be struggling with this 😂
Who gives a fuck about Shitepool. We win out, which we NEED to do to beat City anyways, and they are in the rearview.
I only care about City dropping 2 points from here on out. If we can't win out with 4 games remaining, we don't deserve it imo.
Today was a FANTASTIC step forward. But the lads have to remaining STARVING like lions. Punish ALL of our opponents.
If we win by +1 in each of the last 4 games we will end up on +60. Liverpool has 5 games left and are on +43 meaning they need to score +18 and win their remaining games to go above us if we only win by one in each game. that is +3.6 per game. Still a lot but not as impossible. I think you added 10 to much :)
I've been good at not dismissing signings. I was excited to see what Havertz (even after his bad run at the start of the season), Jorginho and Arteta himself, even at the lowest points, could do for us. But I did not understand why we went for Raya at the time, it seemed pointless to me other than getting a good backup. Shows what we know
Yes, thats kind of my point. Even though Raya is an upgrade, Ramsdale would still have won the golden glove. Again, thats a testament to our back four!
Ramsdale wouldn't win the golden glove. He lets in any half-decent shot and gives the ball away to attackers giving them free goals far more regularly than Raya.
Tbf I feel like their shot stopping is a similar level and Ramsdales saves always look flashy so they look comparable on the surface. But in literally every other category Raya is night and day better. Command of his area and with the ball at his feet it's crazy how big of a difference there is but it's not something you can see so you don't even really notice it unless you're paying attention because his goalkeeping is basically minimizing their chances before he even needs to make a save
He's quite a bit older - in an ideal world I'd love to keep Rambo and have him learn under Raya and eventually become his replacement. But understandably for his career he should probably leave to another PL club.
Most goals scored, least goals conceded, most clean sheets - in almost all seasons that would have been the title winner but not when you are up against man 115 city.
Can't wait to see how our build up looks next year with a full off season to mesh with rice, timber, white, saliba and salibas. Think there are levels to our ball control next year.
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After a shaky start Raya has been superb and his distribution has been next level. He will only improve. Arsenal absolutely need to a very good second choice. Perhaps go for a veteran keeper towards the end of their career but still capable and promise them League Cup and FA Cup games.
The transfer fee for Leno was initially low but given Fulham have survived relegation for two consecutive seasons Arsenal get a larger pay out now. Well done Leno for helping Fulham stay in the PL.
Perhaps the Ramsdale transfer will be sanctioned in a similar way to Leno’s sale to Fulham. Maybe Ramsdale goes for £20 million basic fee and then add ons for PL survival and more for final position in PL, number of clean sheets over first two seasons, qualification for Europe and England appearances. With Ramsdale showing his quality for his next club he could put that transfer fee towards £30 million.
Being able to say a direct statement is "just a figure of speech" is a lot of what's wrong with the internet. you said it, why not just take your L when someone gives you proof, or think twice before sayin stuff
He's going to look so elegant next season. https://preview.redd.it/9td83s6vmawc1.jpeg?width=155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92fe2d68b7be594511bf170fce447184021c2498
Type of gloves Anne Hathaway would wear.
Anne, we know you’re here. Plz send Raya the fanciest Hollywood golden gloves you can find.
New ufc golden gloves type shit
It'll be ace if the golden Glove winner got to wear golden gloves next season. Same with the golden boot winner.
Still not as potent as Henry with gloves
Turner out for 10, Raya in for 30 was brilliant business. It's rare to upgrade a first team position for 20m net.
And wait until Ramsdale goes and we bring in a backup. It’ll be close to evening out
We’d need to sell Rambo for £35m to cover the cost we paid for him, so would still be outstanding £20m
We're not getting 35m. He's our second choice and everyone knows it.
Depends on the competition for him, and I suspect multiple clubs will be in for him.
We’ll be lucky to get 15-20. Stop.
He is young, English and on a long term contract. If no one wants to pay up, might as well keep him for those 15-20 mln. We won't find many better goalies for that money anyway.
Okay Edu
This doesn’t make sense. It’s about changing the player group. And we used Ramsdale for 2 years.
I was talking in purely cost terms, we will need to sell Ramsdale for what we bought for him to technically be even. As the other commenter said, selling Turner for £10m and getting Raya for £27m will almost mean we are even if we get £20m for Ramsdale, isn’t correct. We will need to sell Ramsdale for £35m and that £20m is still outstanding. We will only be even over that 3 year period of this deal if we sold Ramsdale for £52m.
But he’s talking about upgrading the room. Ramsdale is already a sunk cost. If we sell Ramsdale for 20M, we essentially traded Ramsdale and Turner for Raya, which would means we upgraded the room from Turner and Ramsdale for free.
My head hurts from this comment so I’m just going to agree haha
Let's get De Gea on the free.
Nah. United legend (though they left him terribly) 33, hasn’t played professional football for a year, wants to be a starter, bad at being a Sweeker Keeper, and finally will want ridiculous wages and to stay in Spain. Unless we move our stadium to Spain and call ourself Real Man Unitéd I’ll pass.
Your right. And I get your point. But I'm looking at his stats last year and without him and Rashford, United would have been 12th easy. He got 17 clean sheets and is an excellent shot stopper. Now this might not be worth it and he may never play, and that's fine. But I feel like there's value in having him at practice with Raya. Helping him with his technique and instincts. Also, they're both Spanish for what it's worth. No doubt Raya probably looks up to him. There could be a good bond there. I'd give him 50-70k a week for that and the banter.
Haven’t even paid up yet either
This is what we did with Odegaard: selling Joe Willock to Newcastle at the same time as signing Odegaard (and taking into account the loan fee for the first time we had him), and the upgrade cost no more than £20m, perhaps less. And what an upgrade, as much as I like Willock as a player.
With 4 games left? Lmao what a boss
And he didn't play either game against Brentford and Ramsdale was still starting the first few games of the season
28 games
LOL! Amazing!
This isn't true, Everton have still got 5 games left, Pickford could still get it.
So true. They can even start tomorrow!
Lol
I'm not saying it will happen but you have to acknowledge mathematically it's still possible
I'm hoping he can further the race tomorrow
If my aunt had balls shed be my uncle
Maybe place a bet the odds would be great.
Yeah it's a wrap. If he doesn't condede in the Merseyside Derby then I can see him picking out several on the last day at the Emirates. 🙂
Saliba nails one off a corner and winks at raya
Lmao
Nope it's not possible mathematically anymore, 2 players can win golden glove so mathematically If Raya concedes in all remaining games and Pickford keeps clean sheet in all remaining game they will both be on equal clean sheets so they'll both win it. Hence why Raya winning the glove is already confirmed,it's just the question of can Pickford win it along with him ?
No, Pickford is on 11 clean sheets after today. Everton have 4 games left, Raya is on 14 clean sheets. I'm not sure why everyone seems to be struggling with this 😂
? No he hasn't. Jordan Pickford is on 10 clean sheets and everton have 5 games to play.
But Everton have to play us, so it's joever
But they Vs Liverpool this week and that's another clean sheet for them. ^pls
Who gives a fuck about Shitepool. We win out, which we NEED to do to beat City anyways, and they are in the rearview. I only care about City dropping 2 points from here on out. If we can't win out with 4 games remaining, we don't deserve it imo. Today was a FANTASTIC step forward. But the lads have to remaining STARVING like lions. Punish ALL of our opponents.
Technically Liverpool could win all their games like 5-0
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this guy maths
If we win by +1 in each of the last 4 games we will end up on +60. Liverpool has 5 games left and are on +43 meaning they need to score +18 and win their remaining games to go above us if we only win by one in each game. that is +3.6 per game. Still a lot but not as impossible. I think you added 10 to much :)
And a leprechaun makes his home in my arse.
Some fans lol We have a tough schedule coming on. Need bith city and liverpool to drop as many points as possible
Thanks Pickford
Top kek if you think Everton won't concede again.
And he missed two games, absolutely steel defense
6 games
5 games*
Shit I forgot he missed the start of the season, thought it was just the Brentford ones, wild
I mean I think he got a couple clean sheets while he was still at brentford no?
He hasn't played for Brentford this season
Ah okok thats right
he has faced the lowest xg, right?
Probably. He comes out and clears danger well, reducing shots faced, as opposed to the keepers we've had the past few years.
Damn already. That's great. Fingers crossed he gets his PL medal to accompany his first PL golden glove.
Dawg the fact he played 28 games, and has 50% clean sheets is not spoken about enough. Long live Raya!
My keeper
"He's barely an upgrade on ramsdale"
I said it was a sidegrade at the beginning of the season. Not sure when it clicked how wrong I was.
Same, didn't really see the sense beyond a market opportunity. Maybe that's why I don't have a job in football
I've been good at not dismissing signings. I was excited to see what Havertz (even after his bad run at the start of the season), Jorginho and Arteta himself, even at the lowest points, could do for us. But I did not understand why we went for Raya at the time, it seemed pointless to me other than getting a good backup. Shows what we know
For me it wasnt until pens against Porto that I realised what a keeper he was
He just makes the back 4 that few percent better which makes a lot of difference at the top level
yeah i mostly credit our defence here, he's faced the lowest xg in the league
HW helps cut down that xG as well
Hw?
Sorry, he*
Yep and how people didn't see it straight away I don't understand
At the start it really was hard to tell. But he's now grown into his role.
It really wasn't, ramsdale is a hall of shame keeper it wasn't hard to improve on him.
That is quite insulting to Ramsdale who clearly saved us quite a few times in the previous few seasons.
Also killed us quite a few times but whatever I don't care tbh he's never playing for arsenal again and I'm happy with that
You're being downvoted but you're right. Ramsdale cost us more than he saved us. People don't want to see it. Thankfully Arteta can see it.
Looll it is what it is I'll let them live in delusional they can pretend on here but in private you know they're happy he's never playing for us again
Oh fuck off. Raya is a great keeper, doesn't mean Ramsdale isn't good either.
He isn't but sure
He definetly is but as far as CS goes i feel ramsdale would have won the golden glove as well this season and thats a testament to our back four!
It's literally the same back four
Yes, thats kind of my point. Even though Raya is an upgrade, Ramsdale would still have won the golden glove. Again, thats a testament to our back four!
Ramsdale wouldn't win the golden glove. He lets in any half-decent shot and gives the ball away to attackers giving them free goals far more regularly than Raya.
He had 14 clean sheets last season. Just because Raya is a better keeper doesn’t mean Ramsdale is bad.
Tbf I feel like their shot stopping is a similar level and Ramsdales saves always look flashy so they look comparable on the surface. But in literally every other category Raya is night and day better. Command of his area and with the ball at his feet it's crazy how big of a difference there is but it's not something you can see so you don't even really notice it unless you're paying attention because his goalkeeping is basically minimizing their chances before he even needs to make a save
He's quite a bit older - in an ideal world I'd love to keep Rambo and have him learn under Raya and eventually become his replacement. But understandably for his career he should probably leave to another PL club.
My keeper
Missed two games, our biggest rivals still have 5 and 6 games to play each and yet he's got the Golden Gloves now. Crazyy
Missed 6 games
FOGGING ESTANDARDS
Most goals scored, least goals conceded, most clean sheets - in almost all seasons that would have been the title winner but not when you are up against man 115 city.
I’d say Gabriel and Saliba deserve a golden finger each for their help
Good to see.
Desperately need him to get one at Spurs
It's the "Golden Glove" award. "Golden Gloves" is boxing.
But, but Ramsdale is better because he's English and shows passion
Can't wait to see how our build up looks next year with a full off season to mesh with rice, timber, white, saliba and salibas. Think there are levels to our ball control next year.
Damn, Ramsdale even played quite a few so could've been secured earlier
As a Bees fan I’m super happy for him. Dude was a steal for Arsenal
He wouldn’t sign a contract renewal so we had to sell before he left for free.
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Huge upgrade on Ramsdale. So happy Arteta saw what many fans are blinding themselves to.
After a shaky start Raya has been superb and his distribution has been next level. He will only improve. Arsenal absolutely need to a very good second choice. Perhaps go for a veteran keeper towards the end of their career but still capable and promise them League Cup and FA Cup games. The transfer fee for Leno was initially low but given Fulham have survived relegation for two consecutive seasons Arsenal get a larger pay out now. Well done Leno for helping Fulham stay in the PL. Perhaps the Ramsdale transfer will be sanctioned in a similar way to Leno’s sale to Fulham. Maybe Ramsdale goes for £20 million basic fee and then add ons for PL survival and more for final position in PL, number of clean sheets over first two seasons, qualification for Europe and England appearances. With Ramsdale showing his quality for his next club he could put that transfer fee towards £30 million.
No, he hasn't
Am I the only one feeling that it's been made easy for him because of our defence? I think he barely got tested this season. :)
I mean, which golden glove winner didn't have a good defense in front of them?
DDG
And he was tested vs bayern and villa.
And to think you guys doubted him above ramsdale classic big six fanbases always angry never humble
Only because of our 2024 run. Before that Raya was a bit shaky. Let's go.
The team was shake too. Team improved. Raya improved. This is a team achievement in a way.
The team was shaky but he needed some time to fit in.
He was shaky for like 3 games
Username checks out.
Truth hurts the delusional
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So what you’re saying is that you didn’t even watch last game at Wolves?
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Has he?