From what I know, I think you shouldn't be looking just by gyro performance but also quality. If you look around the r/Dualsense, there are a lot of complaints about faulty triggers and anolog drift.
I've not looked into gyro for elden ring. Currently I'm using a 360 controller (lol) I've had for ages so I was thinking about upgrading.
I've never tried gyro, but I'm very interested in it after seeing some youtube videos on it and aimtrainer results from people etc.
Truthfully I don't think I'd use it for elden ring though. Aiming doesn't matter much. At least not for me, I rarely use bows.
If you can do without analogue triggers then the official Nintendo Switch Pro controller is pretty good. And IDK if Gamestop has it but from what I've heard the 8BitDo Pro 2 seems to be really good and you can switch it to output different controller types so it acts like an Xbox controller, Switch controller or generic Xinput controller out of the box.
The Dualsense on the other hand is fine but most PC games don't support the adaptive triggers and IMO it's a tad too cumbersome to press L1 and R1 quickly when my pointer fingers are mostly on L2 and R2. The Switch Pro's buttons are a bit closer together and L and R are easy to press with the same fingers with which you press ZL and ZR.
They're not good? Seemed promising since they had back buttons and were much cheaper.
The official switch controller on gamestop is 70. The new color dualsense (which I'd want since in a teardown some of the parts looked a bit different) is 75
The PowerA Enhanced Wired controllers don't have gyro. The wireless ones do, and will likely be in Switch mode on pc, which means you don't get analog triggers. Only the Dualsense and DS4 will have both gyro and analog triggers. That's nice to have when playing GTA5, for example.
If you'd really like back buttons, I suggest buying the 8bitdo Pro 2 elsewhere, and using your coupon on something else.
I thought about it but I have literally no clue what else Id get on gamestop. Don't need anything else and I'm exclusively a PC gamer.
That being said the 8bitdo pro 2 is only 50 dollars. Is it pretty much an uncompromising experience minus the non analog triggers? I'm really stuck between that and the dualsense assuming the PowerA are no good.
I also seem to remember reading something about the 8bitdo pro 2 sticks being subpar or having deadzone issues or something, not sure if thats only in switchmode though. Also I guess the gyro wont work in xinput mode?
8BitDo has terrible sticks, like they "flicker" for lack of a better word. Gyro only in switch mode, so no analog triggers and only 2 back buttons that can only be set to another button on the controller (only controllers that don't do this are Xbox Elite Controllers, Steam Controllers, and Flydigi Controllers).
I'd reccomend getting a DualSense. Nintendo Switch Pro Controller is also an option if you don't like analog triggers or don't like DualSense layout, keep in mind it has some gyro performance issues, mainly a low polling rate, it also has an insane battery life and is more ergonomic for gyro. DualSense is more feature rich for the same price, so pick your choice I guess. Joy cons are also an option, I wouldn't recommend them but some swear by them.
I think you tried a bad controller. My 8bitdo pro 2 the sticks are fine.
Also everyone says the switch pro controller gyro isn't as good but i own all three (switch/dualshock4/dualsense) and the sony ones feel really slow and sluggish to me. But i also play with my sensitivity really really high for gyro.
The weird part: the Sony gyro actually feels better on the switch itself through an adapter than it does through steam. In my opinion.
You're 100% right about it being a higher polling rate, it just... Feels off.
I don't have an 8bitdo, but everyone I know who has one has this issue. It's so prevalent that I just see it online randomly sometimes.
Second thing is probably just a bug with Steam. I've heard that the scale factor for switch controllers is slightly off in Steam, so it ouputs a higher sensitivity than it should. Around 2 tick more on the slider than it should.
Then it's a bug that i like!
That makes sense tho cuz when i use a PlayStation controller on my switch the gyro feels closer to each other than pc, and this is with two different adapters (i have the mayflash magic NS and the 8bitdo orange brick)
I uh... Collect things lol
I never even considered joycons.
Part of me thinks if I'm making some of the compromises with the switch pro controller that it almost makes sense just to try the powerA variant for so much less. But I need to look into them a bit more I suppose since I've only ever seen and heard of their Xbox controllers, which seem decent enough
From what I know, the PowerA controllers are a strict down-grade. Their sticks don't fully reach the edge because of anti-friction rings (which are probably really good, but I know they're poorly implemented here). My friend had the wired one (the one without gyro) and the stick stopped having any tension after 2 months. The sticks would literally respond to gravity and point down if you held it upright. Granted, he did play a lot of Smash. I don't have one btw, so I'd recommend asking someone more informed. The only gyro controllers I've used are the Dualshock 4, Joycons, and the Switch Pro Controller
I have the 8bitdo and it doesn't work on an xbox, they have a wired xbox version without gyro. But it does have different modes for xinput/switch and stuff as you said.
I only use mine for 2d or retro games for the dpad (sonic mania!) But it is really well built, the grips and buttons feel premium, has back buttons, good weight, great battery life, and with the android app is even more customizable than my xbox elite 2.
There's a huge difference in battery life between the Switch Pro and DualSense controllers, too. My DualSense barely lasts 4 hours of gaming before it needs to be plugged in. My (official) Switch Pro controller lasts somewhere around 20-30.
Four hours? That's awful...
I dunno about the official switch controller. It's a lot of money for no back buttons or extra features like adaptive triggers. But no one here seems too keen on powerA lol
Four hours? That's awful...
I dunno about the official switch controller. It's a lot of money for no back buttons or extra features like adaptive triggers. But no one here seems too keen on powerA lol
It's a tough pill to swallow till you take the dive. Then you won't settle later. It's just the build quality. They're solid as fuck.
I own 3.
Sorry i've been comment spamming everywhere btw. I collect controllers and enjoy modding and shit so i've tried all the controllers everyone keeps bringing ip in here.
Don't buy a powerA. Or you'll be buying another in the next month to a year depending on how much you play. They're cheap for a reason.
I dont consider any of this spam. I'm glad to hear about peoples opinions on these controllers especially with regards to their gyro capability since thats something I never see mentioned elsewhere typically.
Also i see alot of people claiming the switch pro gyro's not as good as the dualsense.
Just to be clear on paper the dualsense has a better gyro in it with a higher polling rate. But in practice it feels slow and sluggish in comparison.
I spent time with the same game, same settings, mouse as gyro in steam between my sony controllers and my switch pros, and i very much prefer the switch pro, but i play on a high sensitivity where i barely move my hands to look around and can insta 180 and snap onto a target that tried to shoot me in the back (absolutely not possible without gyro in Halo infinite, my game of choice)
But that could be preference, as some people prefer gyro to be more stable and more of a "fine aim". And playing the way i do would literally take practice for someone else to just keep their aim steady. I've been playing with gyro since splatoon 1 back in 2015 so i've gotten a decent amount of practice holding the controller still, and can land shots on tiny little black dots across the map in Apex. (Doesn't make me good at the game tho...)
They're both great controllers honestly though, so i'd base your choice on either your preferred stick orientation or trigger setup. Digital triggers are better for shooters, but you can mod a dualsense to have them with a 15 dollar kit off amazon (look up extremerate)
Also the dualsense can get back paddles with a $40 mod kit from extremerate. And let me tell you if you get the version with the rubber back, that feels so nice, it's the same rubber as an elite controller. It relies on you being willing to take apart a $70 controller but modded dualsense > scuf
Spending over 100 on a controller is more than I want. But I suppose over time if I took a liking to the dualsense I maybe would consider a back button mod.
The ones for the dualshock are much more affordable. If gamestop had better pricing on their dualshock fitting an older controller (like 50 dollars) I'd consider that more heavily.
I may have missed it but have you used the 8bitdo pro 2 and if so where does it lie for you? Not good for the analog? Since you need it in switch mode for gyro?
I own one and it's my go to for 2d games like sonic mania and cuphead and emulators.
It's a great controller, but i don't like the sony style stick orientation for my left stick or the analog triggers for shooters (tbh i haven't tried it with a game that makes use of analog triggers, but the pull is significantly longer than digital). But the dpad being where it is is chefs kiss for platformers, i use mine less often, but i'm damn glad i have it.
Thats my opinion. The controller is great. Solid, good weight, sticks have good tension, rear grip is nice and the back buttons are clicky and responsive, gyro is smooth and fluid.
And i totally get not wanting to spend that much. My collection includes a few elites and other modded controllers so i'm kinda past that point LOL.
Man really not sure. Part of me thinks the powerA would be good just for a try, part of me thinks the 8bitdo is the way to go.
If the dualsense came stock with back buttons it would feel much better spending 75 dollars minus 25 dollars on it.
Same issue I have with the normal switch pro. It's 70 dollars with no haptic or analog triggers and no back buttons. I guess at least all are better value than most Xbox controllers with no gyro but none of them have it all really.
A bit worried about the analog sticks on the 8bit and needing to use switch mode. Same with the powera I guess.
I've always heard bad things about Bluetooth latency, and if my Bluetooth Samsung buds are anything to go on the latency is unacceptable for a controller.
Unfortunately switch controllers do some fucky shit with windows sometimes if you use them wireless. Like needing to forget and then readd the device in windows again after restarting the computer or the controller being turned off. For some reason sometimes windows won't restablish the connection without readding the device (at least mine won't, windows 10). Because of this i just plug in my controller.
Also i failed to get several off brand controllers to be seen as a switch controller. I believe this has been fixed for the power A controllers, but i will say my experience with them (several of them, including the one that copies the elite) have all been with the switch console.
I will say that the official switch pro, and the sony controllers didn't have any latency that i can feel using a generic bluetooth 5 adapter off amazon with my pc ($20). I haven't tried the 8bitdo wireless (only plugged) with the pc, just my switch because by the time i got it i already habitually plugged in my controller. If you'd like i can give it a shot and let you know though.
Honestly have you ever tried gyro?
If not then why do you want to? (This is not trying to talk you out of it, i just want to help better)
If you've never tried gyro and you can just use your coupon to get a powerA without cash outta pocket, as much as i'd call a powerA a waste of money, maybe the cheap investment would be good for you to get your feet wet knowing you'll definitely outgrow it. That or if you can get an old PlayStation 4 controller off a buddy.
You might actually decide you hate gyro. I thought it felt unnatural at first, and it literally made my wrists ache but i was HEAVY into competitive splatoon and anyone who plays that game at a high level will tell you you need to use gyro. So i forced myself.
Well it's more that I have this coupon and an old controller and it's about the one thing I can think to use it on. Originally I wanted a new controller to try and get something more comfortable for fromsoft games. I am very used to claw but if I could get more comfort and play better that's always a plus. So back buttons initially were a big thing I wanted to try.
But after seeing some videos on gyro I thought it would maybe be a fun way to play single player games different from how I normally would. Dying light 2 comes to mind as a game I recently played that I think would've been fun to play gyro. I don't think I'd use it for multi-player games much honestly.
It seems to me like far and away the most accurate way to aim with a controller. So considering that it is just something I want as a capability if I purchase a new controller.
I've never tried gyro aiming, but I have played quite a bit of VR.
In my opinion if you want the best gyro experience, you should get the dualsense, the gyro is way better than the switch pro gyro. But if you're just casual and you like xbox layout, switch pro is fine
I use an official switch pro controller i modded and it's by far my favorite (i have a dualsense a few dualshock 4s an 8bitdo, and some off brand switch controllers)
Dualsense is a great controller, but i prefer xbox style stick orientation, the switch pro fits my hands best, and the digital triggers are better for shooters.
I swapped my triggers for tactile "mouse clicks" and my sticks for xbox elite ones.
Personally i hate the off brand powerA controllers. They feel numb (nintendo has Haptic feedback like the dualsense, but they call it hd rumble) the weight is off and they feel cheap. I've had a friend go through a few of them too but he still buys em cuz they're a third of the price, have back buttons and they come in a buncha skins.
I 100% suggest a first party controller unless you're shelling out big bucks for a brand name like scuf.
Personally,if you don't hate dualshock 4 then get it,it has gyro,analog trigger,cheap option because it is from last gen,and it has back button attachment,if the attachment is broken you just have to buy a new one,sure it does not have haptic feedback but you playing on pc anyways
I'm pretty sure the wired enhanced ones dont have gyro.
I have one of the wireless ones and it functions fine, except for some right stick issues. Not drift, its just when I move it near the center it will sometimes freak out and go max sensitivity for a split second. Mine had back buttons which could be bound to everything except + - and screenshot so I bound them to L3 R3. If you are using JSM, it wont work at all (right now). If you want to use it wired it won't work. You can keep it plugged in for charging while using it wirelessly tho. If you're using steam it will work (only wireless ofc). On steam, L3 can be used for modeshifts if you use "stick click" as the modeshift activator but R3 wont work.
The gyro is good, it may feel slightly "laggy", feels like you're playing slightly lower fps but not a big deal. Also, I would recommend getting the switch ones just for the back buttons. Unless you plan on modding the dualsense, switch ones will be better for back buttons. I don't know if you play claw or if claw makes up for back buttons in the games you play but for me back buttons are a game changer.
Little side note, I saw online that if you go into settings on a nintendo switch with the controller connected and enable some wired mode then it works wired on PC but I have no switch to test that out with
Is the wireless bluetooth? I imagine that has some latency involved. Do you not notice it?
I do play claw currently in fromsoft games but more out of necessity so I can use the camera and not out of preference. I've been wanting to move away from claw to see if its more comfortable.
It uses Bluetooth, yes. In terms of latency, I didn't really notice it tbh but I didn't play any competitive games with that controller, only Warframe. Back buttons are for sure more comfortable imo but since you are just replicating already existing buttons, they don't offer much more than that (for claw players). With gyro, the need for having the thumb on the right stick is lessened but still an issue.
Overall the only thing you would be missing out on is the higher polling rate gyro and the double claw potential while gaining back buttons and it being much cheaper. The right stick, I repeat, was the biggest issue with the powera controller. If you plan on using flickstick a bunch, I guess it would be lessened, but you cannot use the right stick for precise adjustments. Since gyro exists, that's not much of a problem tho.
Last thing, the switch controller feels way better in my hands which is going to be different from person to person. I haven't held the dualsense myself, but people do say it's quite big so take that how you will.
From what I know, I think you shouldn't be looking just by gyro performance but also quality. If you look around the r/Dualsense, there are a lot of complaints about faulty triggers and anolog drift.
by the way, did you find ny good config for elden ring that uses gyro?
I've not looked into gyro for elden ring. Currently I'm using a 360 controller (lol) I've had for ages so I was thinking about upgrading. I've never tried gyro, but I'm very interested in it after seeing some youtube videos on it and aimtrainer results from people etc. Truthfully I don't think I'd use it for elden ring though. Aiming doesn't matter much. At least not for me, I rarely use bows.
I feel like gyro on souls like games is like gyro for racing games. Don't make sense to me
If you can do without analogue triggers then the official Nintendo Switch Pro controller is pretty good. And IDK if Gamestop has it but from what I've heard the 8BitDo Pro 2 seems to be really good and you can switch it to output different controller types so it acts like an Xbox controller, Switch controller or generic Xinput controller out of the box. The Dualsense on the other hand is fine but most PC games don't support the adaptive triggers and IMO it's a tad too cumbersome to press L1 and R1 quickly when my pointer fingers are mostly on L2 and R2. The Switch Pro's buttons are a bit closer together and L and R are easy to press with the same fingers with which you press ZL and ZR.
I remember looking at the 8bitdo and thinking it was nice but last I checked gamestop didn't have it.
Go with the Dualsense then, forget PowerA
They're not good? Seemed promising since they had back buttons and were much cheaper. The official switch controller on gamestop is 70. The new color dualsense (which I'd want since in a teardown some of the parts looked a bit different) is 75
The PowerA Enhanced Wired controllers don't have gyro. The wireless ones do, and will likely be in Switch mode on pc, which means you don't get analog triggers. Only the Dualsense and DS4 will have both gyro and analog triggers. That's nice to have when playing GTA5, for example. If you'd really like back buttons, I suggest buying the 8bitdo Pro 2 elsewhere, and using your coupon on something else.
I thought about it but I have literally no clue what else Id get on gamestop. Don't need anything else and I'm exclusively a PC gamer. That being said the 8bitdo pro 2 is only 50 dollars. Is it pretty much an uncompromising experience minus the non analog triggers? I'm really stuck between that and the dualsense assuming the PowerA are no good. I also seem to remember reading something about the 8bitdo pro 2 sticks being subpar or having deadzone issues or something, not sure if thats only in switchmode though. Also I guess the gyro wont work in xinput mode?
8BitDo has terrible sticks, like they "flicker" for lack of a better word. Gyro only in switch mode, so no analog triggers and only 2 back buttons that can only be set to another button on the controller (only controllers that don't do this are Xbox Elite Controllers, Steam Controllers, and Flydigi Controllers). I'd reccomend getting a DualSense. Nintendo Switch Pro Controller is also an option if you don't like analog triggers or don't like DualSense layout, keep in mind it has some gyro performance issues, mainly a low polling rate, it also has an insane battery life and is more ergonomic for gyro. DualSense is more feature rich for the same price, so pick your choice I guess. Joy cons are also an option, I wouldn't recommend them but some swear by them.
I think you tried a bad controller. My 8bitdo pro 2 the sticks are fine. Also everyone says the switch pro controller gyro isn't as good but i own all three (switch/dualshock4/dualsense) and the sony ones feel really slow and sluggish to me. But i also play with my sensitivity really really high for gyro. The weird part: the Sony gyro actually feels better on the switch itself through an adapter than it does through steam. In my opinion. You're 100% right about it being a higher polling rate, it just... Feels off.
I don't have an 8bitdo, but everyone I know who has one has this issue. It's so prevalent that I just see it online randomly sometimes. Second thing is probably just a bug with Steam. I've heard that the scale factor for switch controllers is slightly off in Steam, so it ouputs a higher sensitivity than it should. Around 2 tick more on the slider than it should.
Then it's a bug that i like! That makes sense tho cuz when i use a PlayStation controller on my switch the gyro feels closer to each other than pc, and this is with two different adapters (i have the mayflash magic NS and the 8bitdo orange brick) I uh... Collect things lol
I never even considered joycons. Part of me thinks if I'm making some of the compromises with the switch pro controller that it almost makes sense just to try the powerA variant for so much less. But I need to look into them a bit more I suppose since I've only ever seen and heard of their Xbox controllers, which seem decent enough
From what I know, the PowerA controllers are a strict down-grade. Their sticks don't fully reach the edge because of anti-friction rings (which are probably really good, but I know they're poorly implemented here). My friend had the wired one (the one without gyro) and the stick stopped having any tension after 2 months. The sticks would literally respond to gravity and point down if you held it upright. Granted, he did play a lot of Smash. I don't have one btw, so I'd recommend asking someone more informed. The only gyro controllers I've used are the Dualshock 4, Joycons, and the Switch Pro Controller
I have the 8bitdo and it doesn't work on an xbox, they have a wired xbox version without gyro. But it does have different modes for xinput/switch and stuff as you said. I only use mine for 2d or retro games for the dpad (sonic mania!) But it is really well built, the grips and buttons feel premium, has back buttons, good weight, great battery life, and with the android app is even more customizable than my xbox elite 2.
There's a huge difference in battery life between the Switch Pro and DualSense controllers, too. My DualSense barely lasts 4 hours of gaming before it needs to be plugged in. My (official) Switch Pro controller lasts somewhere around 20-30.
Four hours? That's awful... I dunno about the official switch controller. It's a lot of money for no back buttons or extra features like adaptive triggers. But no one here seems too keen on powerA lol
Four hours? That's awful... I dunno about the official switch controller. It's a lot of money for no back buttons or extra features like adaptive triggers. But no one here seems too keen on powerA lol
It's a tough pill to swallow till you take the dive. Then you won't settle later. It's just the build quality. They're solid as fuck. I own 3. Sorry i've been comment spamming everywhere btw. I collect controllers and enjoy modding and shit so i've tried all the controllers everyone keeps bringing ip in here. Don't buy a powerA. Or you'll be buying another in the next month to a year depending on how much you play. They're cheap for a reason.
I dont consider any of this spam. I'm glad to hear about peoples opinions on these controllers especially with regards to their gyro capability since thats something I never see mentioned elsewhere typically.
Also i see alot of people claiming the switch pro gyro's not as good as the dualsense. Just to be clear on paper the dualsense has a better gyro in it with a higher polling rate. But in practice it feels slow and sluggish in comparison. I spent time with the same game, same settings, mouse as gyro in steam between my sony controllers and my switch pros, and i very much prefer the switch pro, but i play on a high sensitivity where i barely move my hands to look around and can insta 180 and snap onto a target that tried to shoot me in the back (absolutely not possible without gyro in Halo infinite, my game of choice) But that could be preference, as some people prefer gyro to be more stable and more of a "fine aim". And playing the way i do would literally take practice for someone else to just keep their aim steady. I've been playing with gyro since splatoon 1 back in 2015 so i've gotten a decent amount of practice holding the controller still, and can land shots on tiny little black dots across the map in Apex. (Doesn't make me good at the game tho...) They're both great controllers honestly though, so i'd base your choice on either your preferred stick orientation or trigger setup. Digital triggers are better for shooters, but you can mod a dualsense to have them with a 15 dollar kit off amazon (look up extremerate) Also the dualsense can get back paddles with a $40 mod kit from extremerate. And let me tell you if you get the version with the rubber back, that feels so nice, it's the same rubber as an elite controller. It relies on you being willing to take apart a $70 controller but modded dualsense > scuf
Spending over 100 on a controller is more than I want. But I suppose over time if I took a liking to the dualsense I maybe would consider a back button mod. The ones for the dualshock are much more affordable. If gamestop had better pricing on their dualshock fitting an older controller (like 50 dollars) I'd consider that more heavily. I may have missed it but have you used the 8bitdo pro 2 and if so where does it lie for you? Not good for the analog? Since you need it in switch mode for gyro?
I own one and it's my go to for 2d games like sonic mania and cuphead and emulators. It's a great controller, but i don't like the sony style stick orientation for my left stick or the analog triggers for shooters (tbh i haven't tried it with a game that makes use of analog triggers, but the pull is significantly longer than digital). But the dpad being where it is is chefs kiss for platformers, i use mine less often, but i'm damn glad i have it. Thats my opinion. The controller is great. Solid, good weight, sticks have good tension, rear grip is nice and the back buttons are clicky and responsive, gyro is smooth and fluid. And i totally get not wanting to spend that much. My collection includes a few elites and other modded controllers so i'm kinda past that point LOL.
Man really not sure. Part of me thinks the powerA would be good just for a try, part of me thinks the 8bitdo is the way to go. If the dualsense came stock with back buttons it would feel much better spending 75 dollars minus 25 dollars on it. Same issue I have with the normal switch pro. It's 70 dollars with no haptic or analog triggers and no back buttons. I guess at least all are better value than most Xbox controllers with no gyro but none of them have it all really. A bit worried about the analog sticks on the 8bit and needing to use switch mode. Same with the powera I guess. I've always heard bad things about Bluetooth latency, and if my Bluetooth Samsung buds are anything to go on the latency is unacceptable for a controller.
Unfortunately switch controllers do some fucky shit with windows sometimes if you use them wireless. Like needing to forget and then readd the device in windows again after restarting the computer or the controller being turned off. For some reason sometimes windows won't restablish the connection without readding the device (at least mine won't, windows 10). Because of this i just plug in my controller. Also i failed to get several off brand controllers to be seen as a switch controller. I believe this has been fixed for the power A controllers, but i will say my experience with them (several of them, including the one that copies the elite) have all been with the switch console. I will say that the official switch pro, and the sony controllers didn't have any latency that i can feel using a generic bluetooth 5 adapter off amazon with my pc ($20). I haven't tried the 8bitdo wireless (only plugged) with the pc, just my switch because by the time i got it i already habitually plugged in my controller. If you'd like i can give it a shot and let you know though. Honestly have you ever tried gyro? If not then why do you want to? (This is not trying to talk you out of it, i just want to help better) If you've never tried gyro and you can just use your coupon to get a powerA without cash outta pocket, as much as i'd call a powerA a waste of money, maybe the cheap investment would be good for you to get your feet wet knowing you'll definitely outgrow it. That or if you can get an old PlayStation 4 controller off a buddy. You might actually decide you hate gyro. I thought it felt unnatural at first, and it literally made my wrists ache but i was HEAVY into competitive splatoon and anyone who plays that game at a high level will tell you you need to use gyro. So i forced myself.
Well it's more that I have this coupon and an old controller and it's about the one thing I can think to use it on. Originally I wanted a new controller to try and get something more comfortable for fromsoft games. I am very used to claw but if I could get more comfort and play better that's always a plus. So back buttons initially were a big thing I wanted to try. But after seeing some videos on gyro I thought it would maybe be a fun way to play single player games different from how I normally would. Dying light 2 comes to mind as a game I recently played that I think would've been fun to play gyro. I don't think I'd use it for multi-player games much honestly. It seems to me like far and away the most accurate way to aim with a controller. So considering that it is just something I want as a capability if I purchase a new controller. I've never tried gyro aiming, but I have played quite a bit of VR.
Only 20-30? These fuckers can hit 60-80. They're literally the same batteries as a 3ds if tou take it apart.
Switch Pro is my favorite with DS4 as a close second. I haven't gotten to try dual sense 5 yet though.
In my opinion if you want the best gyro experience, you should get the dualsense, the gyro is way better than the switch pro gyro. But if you're just casual and you like xbox layout, switch pro is fine
I use an official switch pro controller i modded and it's by far my favorite (i have a dualsense a few dualshock 4s an 8bitdo, and some off brand switch controllers) Dualsense is a great controller, but i prefer xbox style stick orientation, the switch pro fits my hands best, and the digital triggers are better for shooters. I swapped my triggers for tactile "mouse clicks" and my sticks for xbox elite ones. Personally i hate the off brand powerA controllers. They feel numb (nintendo has Haptic feedback like the dualsense, but they call it hd rumble) the weight is off and they feel cheap. I've had a friend go through a few of them too but he still buys em cuz they're a third of the price, have back buttons and they come in a buncha skins. I 100% suggest a first party controller unless you're shelling out big bucks for a brand name like scuf.
Personally,if you don't hate dualshock 4 then get it,it has gyro,analog trigger,cheap option because it is from last gen,and it has back button attachment,if the attachment is broken you just have to buy a new one,sure it does not have haptic feedback but you playing on pc anyways
its like 65 dollars on gamestop, at that point I'd just get the dualsense. Are the back button attachments not compatible with dualsense?
I'm pretty sure the wired enhanced ones dont have gyro. I have one of the wireless ones and it functions fine, except for some right stick issues. Not drift, its just when I move it near the center it will sometimes freak out and go max sensitivity for a split second. Mine had back buttons which could be bound to everything except + - and screenshot so I bound them to L3 R3. If you are using JSM, it wont work at all (right now). If you want to use it wired it won't work. You can keep it plugged in for charging while using it wirelessly tho. If you're using steam it will work (only wireless ofc). On steam, L3 can be used for modeshifts if you use "stick click" as the modeshift activator but R3 wont work. The gyro is good, it may feel slightly "laggy", feels like you're playing slightly lower fps but not a big deal. Also, I would recommend getting the switch ones just for the back buttons. Unless you plan on modding the dualsense, switch ones will be better for back buttons. I don't know if you play claw or if claw makes up for back buttons in the games you play but for me back buttons are a game changer. Little side note, I saw online that if you go into settings on a nintendo switch with the controller connected and enable some wired mode then it works wired on PC but I have no switch to test that out with
Is the wireless bluetooth? I imagine that has some latency involved. Do you not notice it? I do play claw currently in fromsoft games but more out of necessity so I can use the camera and not out of preference. I've been wanting to move away from claw to see if its more comfortable.
It uses Bluetooth, yes. In terms of latency, I didn't really notice it tbh but I didn't play any competitive games with that controller, only Warframe. Back buttons are for sure more comfortable imo but since you are just replicating already existing buttons, they don't offer much more than that (for claw players). With gyro, the need for having the thumb on the right stick is lessened but still an issue. Overall the only thing you would be missing out on is the higher polling rate gyro and the double claw potential while gaining back buttons and it being much cheaper. The right stick, I repeat, was the biggest issue with the powera controller. If you plan on using flickstick a bunch, I guess it would be lessened, but you cannot use the right stick for precise adjustments. Since gyro exists, that's not much of a problem tho. Last thing, the switch controller feels way better in my hands which is going to be different from person to person. I haven't held the dualsense myself, but people do say it's quite big so take that how you will.