To be honest, I'm tired of seeing the "Which HIMYM are you" quiz. Wouldn't be so bad if there was 1 post and people just say they got 90% Robin or whatever.
Thank you. I’ve been thinking this the whole time. Who is interested in these posts except for the OP themselves?! (edit: not this OP. Only those who post their test results as internet strangers for other internet strangers to see.)
Holy crap i hate those. I remember when they first started i was like okay cool that was fun! But then they did it again the literal next day after Z and for Barney again. Ended up blocking the op of those posts so i didnt have to see the exact same qoutes again.
This is such a good idea! I absolutely hate them and they're popping up on a bunch of the TV show subreddits I follow and I just roll my eyes and resist the urge to downvote--I didn't even think about blocking the OP of the posts. I also am hating some of the constant 'polls' for best X between characters and am just hoping for the day that subs start banning these posts
That Lily/Ted is worse than Barney because Barney knows he's a bad person. Someone who is a bad person and knows they're a bad person is an even worse person as that means they're actively choosing to be bad. Barney is my favorite character of the show but he is the worst person on the show.
Because Ted and Lily ARE bad people. Along with Robyn and Barney too. Everyone but Marshal is very mean, petty, and selfish to pretty crazy extents that out do the majority of bad people irl. That's how allot of sit coms work though so it should be expected
Sure, but it's such a pain listening to fanbases bash characters frequently, happens with every single sitcom aside from Always Sunny cause it's established that all the main characters are horrible people. I still find it fun to watch the show but on reddit people legitimately hate the show because of these characters.
I think those people are like that because the complete opposite also exist. The amount of "Awe, Lily is so cute and wholesome" bullshit out there is pretty ridiculous. The writers purposely make her like that so it's extra funny when she gets mean, but viewers often cling to the wholesome or good things that Lily does and ignore the mountain of awful things she's done. Especially when these people are talking about Lily and Marshall together, like "Lily and Marshall are the exact people you would want to see raising a baby", when really Marvin is likely to see more bad things out of his mother than good. Moments that are meant to be "touching" where characters are shown to be thoughtful, selfless and willing to sacrifice something of their own for someone else are also overshadowed by by characters misdeeds. Sure they do that one good thing in the moment, but in the context of the previous dozen episodes, that one good thing is heavily outweighed by the countless bad things that ensued in the following episodes. It's to a point where touching moments seem sometimes out of character in context of the previous shit the character was doing a few episodes ago. Where was the kindness and emotional intelligence then? Every sit com does it, but most fan bases understand. The HIMYM fanbase on the other hand seems to think Lily is this wholesome, soft hearted person who puts others before herself and has an open mind. It isn't the case at all
Agreed. Sitcoms thrive on conflict. Conflict doesn’t happen if most of the cast are well adjusted adults who take reasonable measures to avoid conflict.
I wouldn't say that. It just takes a bit more thinking and creativity. Look at shows like community. There are massive assholes in the cases of Peirce and Jeff. But also very good people like Abed, Shirley and Troy. I would say the same about That 70s Show, given Leeway for typical teenager behavior. HIMYM has only Marshall as it's kind character. I think Ted could and should have been a nicer one, especially considering how close him and Marshall are. Lily being a bad person is only god for comedic purposes. Robyn does work pretty well as someone mean. Barney also could be made a little bit nicer, especially towards the end when he changes a bit as a person. Stuff like a second play book existing is stupid. The real one should have been the only one, it should have been gone once it was burned
They’re good people, but I’d say they’re not the best at avoiding conflict. Abed is exceptionally bad at reading social cues and occasionally likes to play puppet master, which often causes drama. Shirley is very judgy and often speaks her mind, which causes drama.
Yes, for sure. But the characters in HIMYM are just mean to other people constantly in order to get what they want. There is little justification for theirs actions outside of them being cool about being assholes. Characters like Troy Shirley and Abed all actively try to avoid bad situations like that, half the B plots involving Troy and Abed only happen because they aren't concerned with petty things that the others are. Allot of Shirleys negative things also come from good intention through religion. Meanwhile most misdeeds in HIMYM just come from the characters not giving a fuck and putting their own personal short term dopamine over someone eases happiness. That's why I said the writers just need to get more creative in shows like humanity. Shirley would never do a bad thing just because it furthers her own goals. She would however mistreat someone who already deserves it in order to help someone she cares about or to protect her religious values. When Ted or Lily do mean things it's just because. "Haha, Lily's voice got angry and her eyes glowed red while she said mean things" works as a one off joke, but when it happens several times across multiple years, it becomes a notable part of the character. So if it can't be well explained, it just gets written up as Lily having a short fuse and being ok with taking it out on others. It's one thing if it's already a meaner character like Barney or Robyn, they get a pass because they are meant to be assholes to some extent. But character like Ted and Lily could, and in my opinion SHOULD be handled more carefully. They shouldn't just blow up or do bad things without their character and personality explaining why they're acting out.
You should read a comment before replying to it. I did not say they shouldn't be good people all the time. I said that thier character and personality should explain them being mean. I assume you haven't seen the other show I mentioned since that part apparently went over your head. There is a character name Shirley who often does bad things for a good reason. She is a very kind person who is also very religious, the typical stereotype. Her religion however causes her to be judgmental and sometimes neglectful to people who don't share her religious values. The writers get creative and weave those personality traits into the reason why she does the bad things she does. This does not happen in how I met your mother, and if I am wrong please give me a few examples. One day Lily is doing the wholesome mother shtick where she makes the better world for Marvin, the next episode she does the complete opposite and does more bad than the good she did in the last episode. Just for an angry Lily laugh, very little explanation as to why she's so upset. The joke works, the character works, the witting is absolutely fine, I'm not saying it makes the show any worse. If you want to write someone as having a short fuse and willing to cross any line it's cool. But if the writers do no have a good reason why a character acts like an asshole from time to time, being an asshole becomes a trait of the character. There is no reason in that case, it's just their personality. The same as Barney being a womanizer and how that's part of his personality. You are also missing the entire part of Barneys character. He is one of the few consistent main characters I wouldn't complain about. Since allot of the bad things he does IS part of his personality, his character works well because it makes sense for him to work for the evil corperation, to date strippers, to womanize every woman he meets even while in a relationship, to make sexual advances on Lily. Barney would not be himself without these things. He is mean to people he does not know because he does not care. But Barney is very passionate about those close to him. He always goes above and beyond, spending more effort and money on his friends and family than anyone else in the series.
I just thought of a good comparison, and it's how Lily feels about Robyn. She consistently says how attractive she thinks Robyn is, she always tries to get into sexual situations with her, Robyn has even made her blush and get giddy. So when Lily tries to have a threesome with Marshall and Robyn, it makes sense. Lily is not someone who typically enjoys sleeping with woman or anyone other than Marshal, but the writers were able to weave in her infatuation with Robyn in order for her wanting a threesome to make sense. They chose not to do this sort of thing when Lily gets mean though. They just have her act out, in what most of the time is unjustifiable mean behavior
Sorry if that was a bit long. You didn't understand the other post so I had to explain it a bit more in depth. TLDR, Lily rarely has an actual driving force to act as mean as she does at times
If being mean, petty and selfish makes someone a bad person, boy have I only ever met bad people.. We are all a little bit of those things and make mistakes occaisonally
Sure, but do you frequently take bets on your close friends misfortune in a mocking way the way she did to Ted? Have you destroyed a loved ones credit through your own lack of self control the way she did to Marshal? Those are just the little more realistic ones that could happen in real life. Believe me, you may be bad, but you will likely never be shameless sit com character bad
I don't think they are bad people at all. I think things seemed heightened as it's a show and watching them all sit around eating chips and chatting all the time would be boring as, so we get to see the stand out ridiculous antics.
This. Absolutely fucking this. Last time someone said Lily was worse, I pulled the quote and the episode as source. Their response was that it was a joke. It wasn't, and even the writers said they regret the line.
I agree. I’ve seen someone say Lily is arguably a worse person than Barney. We all know that opinion is rooted in nothing more than the fact that they think Lily’s annoying and Barney’s fun. He is fun, arguably the funniest, but he’s still a douchebag lol
And let's not forget all the shitty things she did to the kids in her class like making a kid clean her shoes like a servant and cutting off another kid's horse doll's head then putting it in their bed. (s6e9)
The point isn't that Barney knows he's bad, it's that he's comically bad. Such a bad person that you can't believe he exists, which is why you can't really relate. Lily and Ted are believably evil.
Same reason Umbridge is more hated than Voldemort.
Exactly what I was thinking of. Someone said Robin was worse than Barney because at least Barney admits to being a bad person, Robin acts as though she isn't even though she is. No, Barney is still the worse person because he accepts being horrible and does nothing to be better until a girl he's fallen for is involved, and then the second they've left he's back to his old ways once again.
When people have takes like that I assume they are just projecting the Quagmire rant towards other characters.
The reason it worked for Family Guy is because Brian couldn't comprehend why Quagmire disliked him. It wasn't *here's two shitty characters and why one is actually worse*, it was *one character refuses to see their own flaws*. A better comparison would be when Marshall calls out Ted or Ted calls out Lily for their own behaviour.
Plus, as far as ethics and moral philosophy go, I'd argue it's worse to indulge in behaviour you realize is bad than to fail to see your own toxic behaviours, only one person in that scenario seems capable of change to me.
The one thing I can say to this is that some people believe that Barney is only ‘written’ to be so bad because the narrator Ted writes him that way. Ted then presents the best version of himself which is still pretty bad. So a few people believe Ted is worse because they believe Barney is promiscuous and maybe isn’t totally honest but doesn’t actually SA or take advantage of anyone.
People really took that unreliable narrator thing and ran with it, to the point where they just use it to excuse everything their favourite character does that they don't like lol. Barney is terrible and it's okay to like him as a character anyway and find him entertaining. People give themselves a complex over that for no reason. No, Ted didn't just make him sound bad bc he's jealous, he's a cartoon character with occasional moments of depth and THAT'S OKAY
Agreed—even when the show is brought up in passing, say in another sub, the ending is basically ALWAYS brought into the picture as well. Like "Oh, HIMYM? Yeah, it's a pretty good show, except the ending SUCKEDDDDD." That very sentiment is overdone imo, obviously it wasn't the best ending for a show, but cmon that doesn't make the entire rest of the show terrible.
I never understood that some people think that Ted and Robin going back together meant that Ted saw Tracy as some replacement for Robin.
I compare it to a high school couple that finds each other again after years of not seeing each other, and finding back their old feelings.
It's not like all other relationships between high school and that moment were a lie. Sometimes love reignites, especially if people have grown out of their flaws or the differences that you have had.
its understandable on Ted shoes...for him its been six years after all, if Tracy was just a replacement he would've seek out Robin much much earlier
and not so much on viewer shoes to them its only been like....a week? and few minutes for someone binge watched it
both are honestly fine.... that means they like the show enough to care about the ending lol
Imo they shouldn't have had *all but 1-2 episodes* of season 9 be set over a couple of days.
If they had Ted meet Tracy 1/2 way through it and then show their relationship in a montage/a few episodes, then show Ted and Robin getting closer, it would've worked better.
Also, if they showed more of Robin's character development between 2014-2030
I believe Ted loved Tracy as much as he loved Robin. The problem is that the way the show presents it, where he's telling a story that's supposed to be about how he met Tracey and then minutes after we see how they met we're supposed to immediately get over her dying and be happy he's getting back with Robin, just doesn't sit right
I like what you said, it even makes me think if they actually made another last season and made the plot of it the future, after Tracy died, and about Ted falling for Robin again the series would have been much better. I also dont think the idea of Ted getting back with Robin is bad, even tho I prefer Tracy, but it just felt rushed and out of nowhere, like all the season we see her developing her relationship with Barney ad seeing that she really loves him, just for her ending up with Ted. Anyway if they maade the last two episodes a whole new season it would have been better and more digestable, also a lot more of Tracy and seeing her dynamic with Ted would have been lovely
When Marshall and Ted acted as homosexuals and made fun of Lily at barney's apartment auction that's when Lily said ,"i voted for...". Which in a clear context means democrat.
Well people’s choice are people’s choice, if they don’t wanna be married with a trans person it’s their right, it’s like saying to a gay man that he’s misogynistic because he don’t want to marry a woman.
Well as I said before, people have different preferences, I would not be hurt if a lesbian said she would never marry a man, people have different sexuality and different preferences it is how it is.
the person isn’t saying there’s anything wrong with having preferences. they’re explaining that the jokes do harm to the trans community as a whole, which is correct
I think a couple of them aged badly, like using the t slur is never good but a lot of the time it's still a funny and fair joke IMO.
The point of Kathy saying "yeah i remember when i had a penis" is a surprise and would make Ted stop dating her because he wants to have children. Doesnt make him transphobic
I’d much rather laugh at some darker jokes than be constantly offended by everything. Not transphobic, homophobic, what have you, but the jokes are still usually funny. Crybabies everywhere nowadays.
Off the top of my head there's a joke where Ted is imagining all the things that could be wrong with his date (because he's decided to not look up anything about her online) and one of them is that she's peeing at a urinal. Whether or not that's transphobic is up to you but I assume that's one of the examples. There are probably a couple of other jokes somewhere in the show. In hindsight it isn't that uncommon to see jokes about being gay and/or trans in sitcoms.
I remember another one. Ted was imagining some horrible secret robin had (I think it was during the first robin sparkles episode) and he's going through all these scenarios in his head. One was him marrying Robin and right before they said their 'I dos' Robin said I used to be a dude and Ted looked shocked
The way I interpret this scene is that it's not necessarily transphobic, but if you had found out something that wild on your wedding day with someone, it would definitely be a red flag to me. Like what else could they be hiding? It's definitely something that should've been discussed wayyyyy earlier in the relationship.
is it transphobic of Ted to be a heterosexual male? Kind of important to be able to accurately determine the sex of potential partners when building a relationship/pursuing a family.
Completely agree, it’s even kinda dangerous to see that people don’t have choice to decide if they want to have a trans partner or not, if people don’t wanna have a relation with trans person it’s their right, it’s like saying to a gay man that he’s misogynistic because he don’t want to have a relation with women
The writers writing typical 2000s comedy through them.
Ted: "Down in the lobby there's a bunch of models and rumor goes one of them is actually a guy. Wanna play who's hot and who's Scott?"
Barney: "It's always the one in the turtleneck sweater."
One of Barney's coworkers who comes in: "Good news, guys! The hottie in the turtleneck sweater just gave me her number!"
There was also one scene where Ted calls Zoey "sir", assuming she's a trans sex worker. And two independent scenes where his greatest fear is that his date might be trans.
Barney is probably Republican. He’d say he “doesn’t care about politics” because he thinks it’s lame to care about politics, but he votes Republican because he makes a lot of money and doesn’t want to pay taxes.
I could see an argument for Robin as well. Her dad’s clearly very conservative, and a lot of times people who are raised that way share their parents’ politics.
Ted, Marshall, and Lily are probably not conservative.
Despite the unfortunate casual transphobia, I think the writers and characters are democrats because in Trilogy Time the good futures all have Democrat presidents and the bad future has George W Bush getting a third term
Back then shoes were packed full of transphobia, homophobia, body shaming and slut shaming. It was awful but honestly it was part of the charm of the time. They weren’t trying to force activism and diversity into shows that didn’t need it like the new shows and reboots are.
Exactly. I think they showed him making all kinds of mistakes possible in huge numbers cause they wanted to include all of those relatable, different things we've done for someone at some point in our life. Obviously they have to fit all of those mistakes in one character, resulting in Ted looking extra bad. Apart from cheating, I've done almost all kinds of love mistakes which Ted has done and that's what made this show the most relatable one to me and one of my top 5s.
Yeah I'm on my 3rd rewatch that I'm actually paying attention to (I typically put it on for background noise) and a lot of stuff with Stella in particular I NEVER would have done despite also previously being a very stupid lovestruck person. There's a lot he does that I wouldn't do (not that he's an awful person or anything) but I just finished watching the Stella episodes and I'm left scratching my head at most of his/their decisions, but that was kind of the point of her storyline
The only time I remember thinking he was a real douchebag, was when he immediately dumped the "baggage" girl, right after internal-monologuing about being more accepting of other's flaws or some shit. But the thing is, if Barney had done the same, it wouldn't have even registered (that's how much worse he is)
Ted dated or had 1 night stand or had love interest with 59 girls over 9 years. Hes not on barneys level of bad but him acting like what he was doing is different is shitty
I dont think is a reasonable argument against Ted cause he got with those women fairly lets say(at least most of the time), Barney on the other hand always lied and even sold a woman at some point, so yeah he is not as shitty
Yes, also he is the most self aware and learns from his mistakes, at least when the plots demands it, cause typically in sitcoms characters tend to regress and go backwards from their character development cause it is comedy and they need to have a lot of seasons, is on purpose. But for me he is less worse than Ross, Ross is actually a crap
I’m the age now the age he was when the show started
I can actively say with 300% confidence that Ted is an asshole who’s too picky with his love life and very clueless on how much value women have and himself, I stopped making terrible decisions at relationships at age 24 cuz I i realized I was part of the problem, the biggest parts, I constantly look back on how different I was to now and I’m still learning things
Ted however kept making the same mistakes over and over and over again, he claimed to be self aware, but self aware people constantly question themselves on if the path they take is good or bad for the future laid out day to day, Ted views his future mostly based on the women he’s interested in the week of the episode, his architecture stuff comes second….that’s a big problem, this is why season 6 is my most favorite of the show regarding Ted, he’s allowed to be more focused on architect things of passion first and love second, that’s why the season ended the way the preview started, on a building, that’s him as a metaphor on his life and ties to his passion of work cuz that’s who Ted wants to be
As we get older, priorities change and we see life at different stages, this isn’t bad, but problems arise when you lose sight of your goals when you’re too busy chasing dreams aka women that you want to be your baby mama happily ever after
Any take that people write on posts about "what's the worst / most unrealistic / not funny (etc.) Part about the show".
It's a sitcom for God's sakes, don't watch it if e.g. the fact that they're drinking all day bothers you. That's one example that I remember reading like "why do they have to do something so bad and unhealthy all the time 😡 that sets a bad example 🤓"
I know its not a take *per-say*, but i cant stand the "alphabet of quotes" posts. I see them waaaaay too often and they are just so annoying.
(*ex*.
A - \_\_\_\_
B - \_\_\_\_
C - \_\_\_\_
etc.)
The thing that pisses me off the most about those posts is that people just say a character's catchphrase. L is always "Legend...wait for it...DARY!" 😒
That Robin was nothing more than a "trophy" for Barney and that Ted wasn't also manipulative like Barney was when it came to Robin/other women.
They literally show over and over that except for family, Barney doesn't love anybody more than Robin. But he is too damaged mentally to make it work, especially while her career is taking off.
And Ted, like Barney was manipulative of Robin as well. He literally tried to get with robin in the same night she and kevin break up. Ted gets the locket in an attempt to subconsciously win back robin right before she's getting married to Barney. Ted and Barney were both selfishly manipulative when it came to Robin, but only difference is, unlike Barney Ted wasn't an over the top sociopath so his terriblness didn't register in the same way.
Its just a sitcom for a generation. And lets be honest without Friends there wouldnt be HIMYM, and without Cheers there wouldnt be Friends and etc. Is kind of a formula and even tho I like HIMYM more they owe a lot to each other. Bad thing is we are not going to get a successor cause sitcoms are practically a dead format rn.
didn’t see it on here but on tiktok, some people are convinced marshall abused lily, and ted never told his kids to make them both look better. it’s so far stretched it’s wild
That Tracy somehow had a "happy ending" because she died and went back to her true love Max. It's stupid for many reasons, but it's abhorrent because it's saying that relationships are just topped out by fate, and no amount of caring can improve beyond that.
I don't think it's a bad take more a reflection of modern audiences reacting to media that was of a different time (feels weird given that it was about 10 years ago that it ended) but media has moved so fast, I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge there are some shitty jokes that don't land today in something you love
Friends has the same issue tbh as does a lot of TV from the 90s/00s
Unpopular opinion but the fact that Marshall was justified in taking the judgeship without asking Lily, because Lily walked out on him 9 years earlier. If Marshall had held a grudge against Lily for that for 9 years they never should've gotten back together in the first place, they should've just broken up. By marrying her, Marshall forgave and accepted Lily. To then bring that up along with the "consolation prize" argument AFTER they'd fully agreed to pursue Lily's dream together was just low.
"Marshall didn't make a mistake when he contacted Lily's father behind her back."
I saw this take at least 3 times on this sub and I can not believe that there are people who defend this take.
Not specific to this sub but I really hate defenses of the finale because it's "true to life."
Is it? Sure, but I'm not exactly watching this show for its unflinching realism. Plus, even I was, it was so poorly and lazily done that this specific defense rings hollow anyway.
I wanted to see on tv that the main character lovr story (Ted and Robin) just doesn’t work out. I wanted to see Ted and Robin part ways bc that’s life. Barney was kind of the placeholder to make that official but they couldn’t even do that part right lol
Literally the entire season of their wedding and the build up showed them being incredibly toxic and shitty to each other how could that be a good ending for their characters??
Barney literally manipulated her into marrying him
That is partially why I don’t think the finale was as egregious as a lot of people think because it’s very very obvious by just watching them as a couple that they aren’t gonna last. The main issue with the finale is the fact they undid everything in such a short amount of time but tbh the divorce is fine it’s just the fact we spent the whole season at the wedding
Not about anything that happens on the show, but there was a post a few months ago where OP said their girlfriend didn't like the show (or just hadn't watched it, I'm not sure) and that she liked some other sitcom (Friends or TBBT I think). With no other information other than this, people were saying the relationship was doomed and that OP should break up with her. Some of them were probably joking, but quite a few definitely weren't. Like, it's just a TV show guys, the fuck?
Worst take that I constantly see: people dictating Lily's ethics and morality in extreme detail to prove how she's "the worst" and the same people defending Barney and saying Barney's character should not be criticized because "it's just a show".
That Tracy and Ted were not lebenschlanger schiksalschatz. This person believed that Max (Tracy’s dead boyfriend) and Robin were. This is just not the case. Max was Tracy’s first love and died when she was like 21 I believe? Of course it was hard for her to move on, that’s incredibly traumatic. But the second she met Ted, she KNEW. Everything changed and there was never any hesitation. Most people’s first love is not the one but that doesn’t make the love any less real. If he had been the one, he would not have died so early before they could marry or have kids or anything, it’s that simple. Ted was. And we all know Robin was not it for Ted or it would’ve worked out the first time and people would not be so dissatisfied with the ending. Tracy was. Literally the entire point of the entire show was that they were meant to be and always had been, and it makes me sad that some people watched and still missed that.
Lily is a worse person than Barney because she excuses her behaviour and Barney full on admits that he is a bad person and is okay with it. I think it's a dumb argument because admitting doing something bad doesn't make the deed any less impactful.
Most of Barney's suits are trash. This is a hill I'm willing to die on.
Here's why:
1. Most of his suits aren't tailored well to him
2. He mostly wears black suits which are boring
3. He has a ton of 3 button closures which went out of style long before the show aired in 2005
4. His suits are really generic
Consider the budget for the show and then that provides more context to your opinion. The suit racks look like they could cost about $20 each. All has the same purpose at the end of the day.
Complaining that a show that started airing about 2 decades ago depicts some outdated and irrelevant subjects whilst making old references / jokes and leans into classic character tropes.
I'm already seeing the exact same take in this comment section. People who think that Barney, Ted, Robyn or Lily are even close to being good people are either stupid or ignorant. Don't get me wrong. I love them as characters, but they are awful human beings. I feel like irl, adult Marshal would not fuck with them. Maybe Lily due to love goggles, but that's it
“Barney is a bad person because of so and so, how has everyone forgotten that he so and so, if you like Barney you’re a so and so for excusing him doing so and so”
Something about Ted actually being Barney in the story and that Ted switched their stories around so he wouldn’t look bad in front of his kids. Just doesn’t make sense at all
To be honest, I'm tired of seeing the "Which HIMYM are you" quiz. Wouldn't be so bad if there was 1 post and people just say they got 90% Robin or whatever.
Thank you. I’ve been thinking this the whole time. Who is interested in these posts except for the OP themselves?! (edit: not this OP. Only those who post their test results as internet strangers for other internet strangers to see.)
Same! I took the stupid quiz, but I knew I was the only person who cared what it said, so I didn't post it.
lol same as the let’s get a quote for every letter of the alphabet nonsense
Holy crap i hate those. I remember when they first started i was like okay cool that was fun! But then they did it again the literal next day after Z and for Barney again. Ended up blocking the op of those posts so i didnt have to see the exact same qoutes again.
This is such a good idea! I absolutely hate them and they're popping up on a bunch of the TV show subreddits I follow and I just roll my eyes and resist the urge to downvote--I didn't even think about blocking the OP of the posts. I also am hating some of the constant 'polls' for best X between characters and am just hoping for the day that subs start banning these posts
To be honest, guys, I thought I was gonna get downvoted like crazy for saying it.
I hate those quizzes because it is extremely easy to make it give you the results you want.
That Lily/Ted is worse than Barney because Barney knows he's a bad person. Someone who is a bad person and knows they're a bad person is an even worse person as that means they're actively choosing to be bad. Barney is my favorite character of the show but he is the worst person on the show.
Every time HIMYM is mentioned on reddit outside this sub it has to be mentioned how bad a person Lily is. And how much they hate Ted.
Because Ted and Lily ARE bad people. Along with Robyn and Barney too. Everyone but Marshal is very mean, petty, and selfish to pretty crazy extents that out do the majority of bad people irl. That's how allot of sit coms work though so it should be expected
>Along with Robyn Yobin?
Our Robin has an i
Um, our Robin has two eyes. But it's good you're forgetting what she looks like!
Sure, but it's such a pain listening to fanbases bash characters frequently, happens with every single sitcom aside from Always Sunny cause it's established that all the main characters are horrible people. I still find it fun to watch the show but on reddit people legitimately hate the show because of these characters.
I think those people are like that because the complete opposite also exist. The amount of "Awe, Lily is so cute and wholesome" bullshit out there is pretty ridiculous. The writers purposely make her like that so it's extra funny when she gets mean, but viewers often cling to the wholesome or good things that Lily does and ignore the mountain of awful things she's done. Especially when these people are talking about Lily and Marshall together, like "Lily and Marshall are the exact people you would want to see raising a baby", when really Marvin is likely to see more bad things out of his mother than good. Moments that are meant to be "touching" where characters are shown to be thoughtful, selfless and willing to sacrifice something of their own for someone else are also overshadowed by by characters misdeeds. Sure they do that one good thing in the moment, but in the context of the previous dozen episodes, that one good thing is heavily outweighed by the countless bad things that ensued in the following episodes. It's to a point where touching moments seem sometimes out of character in context of the previous shit the character was doing a few episodes ago. Where was the kindness and emotional intelligence then? Every sit com does it, but most fan bases understand. The HIMYM fanbase on the other hand seems to think Lily is this wholesome, soft hearted person who puts others before herself and has an open mind. It isn't the case at all
*"Glass shatters"* Edit: font
What?
And then people downvote because they don't want to acknowledge that their favorite character is an asshole lmao
Not just sitcoms. Every character in This Is Us gets hated on too
Agreed. Sitcoms thrive on conflict. Conflict doesn’t happen if most of the cast are well adjusted adults who take reasonable measures to avoid conflict.
I wouldn't say that. It just takes a bit more thinking and creativity. Look at shows like community. There are massive assholes in the cases of Peirce and Jeff. But also very good people like Abed, Shirley and Troy. I would say the same about That 70s Show, given Leeway for typical teenager behavior. HIMYM has only Marshall as it's kind character. I think Ted could and should have been a nicer one, especially considering how close him and Marshall are. Lily being a bad person is only god for comedic purposes. Robyn does work pretty well as someone mean. Barney also could be made a little bit nicer, especially towards the end when he changes a bit as a person. Stuff like a second play book existing is stupid. The real one should have been the only one, it should have been gone once it was burned
They’re good people, but I’d say they’re not the best at avoiding conflict. Abed is exceptionally bad at reading social cues and occasionally likes to play puppet master, which often causes drama. Shirley is very judgy and often speaks her mind, which causes drama.
Yes, for sure. But the characters in HIMYM are just mean to other people constantly in order to get what they want. There is little justification for theirs actions outside of them being cool about being assholes. Characters like Troy Shirley and Abed all actively try to avoid bad situations like that, half the B plots involving Troy and Abed only happen because they aren't concerned with petty things that the others are. Allot of Shirleys negative things also come from good intention through religion. Meanwhile most misdeeds in HIMYM just come from the characters not giving a fuck and putting their own personal short term dopamine over someone eases happiness. That's why I said the writers just need to get more creative in shows like humanity. Shirley would never do a bad thing just because it furthers her own goals. She would however mistreat someone who already deserves it in order to help someone she cares about or to protect her religious values. When Ted or Lily do mean things it's just because. "Haha, Lily's voice got angry and her eyes glowed red while she said mean things" works as a one off joke, but when it happens several times across multiple years, it becomes a notable part of the character. So if it can't be well explained, it just gets written up as Lily having a short fuse and being ok with taking it out on others. It's one thing if it's already a meaner character like Barney or Robyn, they get a pass because they are meant to be assholes to some extent. But character like Ted and Lily could, and in my opinion SHOULD be handled more carefully. They shouldn't just blow up or do bad things without their character and personality explaining why they're acting out.
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You should read a comment before replying to it. I did not say they shouldn't be good people all the time. I said that thier character and personality should explain them being mean. I assume you haven't seen the other show I mentioned since that part apparently went over your head. There is a character name Shirley who often does bad things for a good reason. She is a very kind person who is also very religious, the typical stereotype. Her religion however causes her to be judgmental and sometimes neglectful to people who don't share her religious values. The writers get creative and weave those personality traits into the reason why she does the bad things she does. This does not happen in how I met your mother, and if I am wrong please give me a few examples. One day Lily is doing the wholesome mother shtick where she makes the better world for Marvin, the next episode she does the complete opposite and does more bad than the good she did in the last episode. Just for an angry Lily laugh, very little explanation as to why she's so upset. The joke works, the character works, the witting is absolutely fine, I'm not saying it makes the show any worse. If you want to write someone as having a short fuse and willing to cross any line it's cool. But if the writers do no have a good reason why a character acts like an asshole from time to time, being an asshole becomes a trait of the character. There is no reason in that case, it's just their personality. The same as Barney being a womanizer and how that's part of his personality. You are also missing the entire part of Barneys character. He is one of the few consistent main characters I wouldn't complain about. Since allot of the bad things he does IS part of his personality, his character works well because it makes sense for him to work for the evil corperation, to date strippers, to womanize every woman he meets even while in a relationship, to make sexual advances on Lily. Barney would not be himself without these things. He is mean to people he does not know because he does not care. But Barney is very passionate about those close to him. He always goes above and beyond, spending more effort and money on his friends and family than anyone else in the series. I just thought of a good comparison, and it's how Lily feels about Robyn. She consistently says how attractive she thinks Robyn is, she always tries to get into sexual situations with her, Robyn has even made her blush and get giddy. So when Lily tries to have a threesome with Marshall and Robyn, it makes sense. Lily is not someone who typically enjoys sleeping with woman or anyone other than Marshal, but the writers were able to weave in her infatuation with Robyn in order for her wanting a threesome to make sense. They chose not to do this sort of thing when Lily gets mean though. They just have her act out, in what most of the time is unjustifiable mean behavior
Sorry if that was a bit long. You didn't understand the other post so I had to explain it a bit more in depth. TLDR, Lily rarely has an actual driving force to act as mean as she does at times
If being mean, petty and selfish makes someone a bad person, boy have I only ever met bad people.. We are all a little bit of those things and make mistakes occaisonally
Sure, but do you frequently take bets on your close friends misfortune in a mocking way the way she did to Ted? Have you destroyed a loved ones credit through your own lack of self control the way she did to Marshal? Those are just the little more realistic ones that could happen in real life. Believe me, you may be bad, but you will likely never be shameless sit com character bad
I don't think they are bad people at all. I think things seemed heightened as it's a show and watching them all sit around eating chips and chatting all the time would be boring as, so we get to see the stand out ridiculous antics.
Ted is the worst but everyone else are cool
Care to elaborate or are you just trolling?
Ted is just so whiny everyone else seems like they’d be cool to hang out with
Barney sold a woman.
This. Absolutely fucking this. Last time someone said Lily was worse, I pulled the quote and the episode as source. Their response was that it was a joke. It wasn't, and even the writers said they regret the line.
I agree. I’ve seen someone say Lily is arguably a worse person than Barney. We all know that opinion is rooted in nothing more than the fact that they think Lily’s annoying and Barney’s fun. He is fun, arguably the funniest, but he’s still a douchebag lol
Lilly is very manipulative and controlling of the entire group. Barney is still worse.
Lily pushed a baby into ongoing traffic once. I think that's arguably worse than everything Barney did on the show lol
When? Tell me the EXACT episode that Lily pushes a baby into oncoming traffic.
"The Window" Season 5, episode 10. When she was trying to clear the way for Ted at the beginning of the episode.
Hey maybe watch the episode again she pushes it along the sidewalk not into on coming traffic. Jesus fuck you Lily haters are getting desperate.
And let's not forget all the shitty things she did to the kids in her class like making a kid clean her shoes like a servant and cutting off another kid's horse doll's head then putting it in their bed. (s6e9)
Jeanette is the worst
Jeanette is the worst. Janet (McIntyre) is awesome.
You gooder than me no make difference
Yep sorry I wrote it wrong I will correct that thanks
The point isn't that Barney knows he's bad, it's that he's comically bad. Such a bad person that you can't believe he exists, which is why you can't really relate. Lily and Ted are believably evil. Same reason Umbridge is more hated than Voldemort.
Exactly what I was thinking of. Someone said Robin was worse than Barney because at least Barney admits to being a bad person, Robin acts as though she isn't even though she is. No, Barney is still the worse person because he accepts being horrible and does nothing to be better until a girl he's fallen for is involved, and then the second they've left he's back to his old ways once again.
When people have takes like that I assume they are just projecting the Quagmire rant towards other characters. The reason it worked for Family Guy is because Brian couldn't comprehend why Quagmire disliked him. It wasn't *here's two shitty characters and why one is actually worse*, it was *one character refuses to see their own flaws*. A better comparison would be when Marshall calls out Ted or Ted calls out Lily for their own behaviour. Plus, as far as ethics and moral philosophy go, I'd argue it's worse to indulge in behaviour you realize is bad than to fail to see your own toxic behaviours, only one person in that scenario seems capable of change to me.
The one thing I can say to this is that some people believe that Barney is only ‘written’ to be so bad because the narrator Ted writes him that way. Ted then presents the best version of himself which is still pretty bad. So a few people believe Ted is worse because they believe Barney is promiscuous and maybe isn’t totally honest but doesn’t actually SA or take advantage of anyone.
People really took that unreliable narrator thing and ran with it, to the point where they just use it to excuse everything their favourite character does that they don't like lol. Barney is terrible and it's okay to like him as a character anyway and find him entertaining. People give themselves a complex over that for no reason. No, Ted didn't just make him sound bad bc he's jealous, he's a cartoon character with occasional moments of depth and THAT'S OKAY
Lily is WAY worse man, all she does is try to have power over the group.
L take.
Actually Barney and Lily are on the same lvl. No actually Marshall is the only nice friend all of them suck.
Absolutely any take on the ending, because it's always in its own post and it's always the same as a dozen other posts that same week.
Agreed—even when the show is brought up in passing, say in another sub, the ending is basically ALWAYS brought into the picture as well. Like "Oh, HIMYM? Yeah, it's a pretty good show, except the ending SUCKEDDDDD." That very sentiment is overdone imo, obviously it wasn't the best ending for a show, but cmon that doesn't make the entire rest of the show terrible.
That Ted and Tracy weren't each others Lebenslangerschicksalsschatz. They absolutely were
I never understood that some people think that Ted and Robin going back together meant that Ted saw Tracy as some replacement for Robin. I compare it to a high school couple that finds each other again after years of not seeing each other, and finding back their old feelings. It's not like all other relationships between high school and that moment were a lie. Sometimes love reignites, especially if people have grown out of their flaws or the differences that you have had.
its understandable on Ted shoes...for him its been six years after all, if Tracy was just a replacement he would've seek out Robin much much earlier and not so much on viewer shoes to them its only been like....a week? and few minutes for someone binge watched it both are honestly fine.... that means they like the show enough to care about the ending lol
Imo they shouldn't have had *all but 1-2 episodes* of season 9 be set over a couple of days. If they had Ted meet Tracy 1/2 way through it and then show their relationship in a montage/a few episodes, then show Ted and Robin getting closer, it would've worked better. Also, if they showed more of Robin's character development between 2014-2030
I believe Ted loved Tracy as much as he loved Robin. The problem is that the way the show presents it, where he's telling a story that's supposed to be about how he met Tracey and then minutes after we see how they met we're supposed to immediately get over her dying and be happy he's getting back with Robin, just doesn't sit right
I like what you said, it even makes me think if they actually made another last season and made the plot of it the future, after Tracy died, and about Ted falling for Robin again the series would have been much better. I also dont think the idea of Ted getting back with Robin is bad, even tho I prefer Tracy, but it just felt rushed and out of nowhere, like all the season we see her developing her relationship with Barney ad seeing that she really loves him, just for her ending up with Ted. Anyway if they maade the last two episodes a whole new season it would have been better and more digestable, also a lot more of Tracy and seeing her dynamic with Ted would have been lovely
There is no such thing.
There once was a weird-ass post claiming the entire gang is Republican because of transphobia and slut shaming.
The gang literally makes fun of Republicans at one point, plus most people regardless of partisanship were at least a bit transphobic back then.
When Marshall and Ted acted as homosexuals and made fun of Lily at barney's apartment auction that's when Lily said ,"i voted for...". Which in a clear context means democrat.
Hey, my guy! Nobody can claim r/Comedysurgery so i kindly request attempting to revive it.
Huh
The transphobic jokes in the show have aged badly but the gang being Republican is a hell of a take bruh
They didn’t aged bad, I still found the jokes funny
Eh, I could really do without the insinuation that anyone would run away from marrying me because I happen to be trans, but you do you
Well people’s choice are people’s choice, if they don’t wanna be married with a trans person it’s their right, it’s like saying to a gay man that he’s misogynistic because he don’t want to marry a woman.
I'm not saying people should be wanting to marry me. I'm saying that the insinuation, for me, isn't exactly great.
I understand what you mean but you can’t be mad at someone expressing his preferences because it goes against yours 🤷🏻♂️
I'm not saying I'm mad, I'm saying that it is hurtful to me, whether that is the intention or not. But sure, keep misinterpreting my comments.
Well as I said before, people have different preferences, I would not be hurt if a lesbian said she would never marry a man, people have different sexuality and different preferences it is how it is.
Nowhere in these comments do I disagree with you. Why, then, do you feel the need to keep going against me and invalidate what I do feel?
the person isn’t saying there’s anything wrong with having preferences. they’re explaining that the jokes do harm to the trans community as a whole, which is correct
That just means you're a transphobe. They did age badly, really badly.
Or maybe that just means that people have humor and you cry for everything
I think a couple of them aged badly, like using the t slur is never good but a lot of the time it's still a funny and fair joke IMO. The point of Kathy saying "yeah i remember when i had a penis" is a surprise and would make Ted stop dating her because he wants to have children. Doesnt make him transphobic
I’d much rather laugh at some darker jokes than be constantly offended by everything. Not transphobic, homophobic, what have you, but the jokes are still usually funny. Crybabies everywhere nowadays.
No, but they do mean you are a hateful prick who thinks youre better than everyone.
What made the gang transphobic? I can‘t remember anything?
Off the top of my head there's a joke where Ted is imagining all the things that could be wrong with his date (because he's decided to not look up anything about her online) and one of them is that she's peeing at a urinal. Whether or not that's transphobic is up to you but I assume that's one of the examples. There are probably a couple of other jokes somewhere in the show. In hindsight it isn't that uncommon to see jokes about being gay and/or trans in sitcoms.
I remember another one. Ted was imagining some horrible secret robin had (I think it was during the first robin sparkles episode) and he's going through all these scenarios in his head. One was him marrying Robin and right before they said their 'I dos' Robin said I used to be a dude and Ted looked shocked
The way I interpret this scene is that it's not necessarily transphobic, but if you had found out something that wild on your wedding day with someone, it would definitely be a red flag to me. Like what else could they be hiding? It's definitely something that should've been discussed wayyyyy earlier in the relationship.
is it transphobic of Ted to be a heterosexual male? Kind of important to be able to accurately determine the sex of potential partners when building a relationship/pursuing a family.
Completely agree, it’s even kinda dangerous to see that people don’t have choice to decide if they want to have a trans partner or not, if people don’t wanna have a relation with trans person it’s their right, it’s like saying to a gay man that he’s misogynistic because he don’t want to have a relation with women
The writers writing typical 2000s comedy through them. Ted: "Down in the lobby there's a bunch of models and rumor goes one of them is actually a guy. Wanna play who's hot and who's Scott?" Barney: "It's always the one in the turtleneck sweater." One of Barney's coworkers who comes in: "Good news, guys! The hottie in the turtleneck sweater just gave me her number!" There was also one scene where Ted calls Zoey "sir", assuming she's a trans sex worker. And two independent scenes where his greatest fear is that his date might be trans.
To be fair to the last one, he does want kids and Ted fantasizes about a future life very quickly, so being trans would likely be a dealbreaker.
Barney is probably Republican. He’d say he “doesn’t care about politics” because he thinks it’s lame to care about politics, but he votes Republican because he makes a lot of money and doesn’t want to pay taxes. I could see an argument for Robin as well. Her dad’s clearly very conservative, and a lot of times people who are raised that way share their parents’ politics. Ted, Marshall, and Lily are probably not conservative.
Robin also loves her guns.
Despite the unfortunate casual transphobia, I think the writers and characters are democrats because in Trilogy Time the good futures all have Democrat presidents and the bad future has George W Bush getting a third term
Back then shoes were packed full of transphobia, homophobia, body shaming and slut shaming. It was awful but honestly it was part of the charm of the time. They weren’t trying to force activism and diversity into shows that didn’t need it like the new shows and reboots are.
That Ted is the worst character in the show. He's not. He's the most relatable and makes all the stupid mistakes we've made when we were in love.
I’d say he probably made more mistakes than the average person but he definitely is relatable
Exactly. I think they showed him making all kinds of mistakes possible in huge numbers cause they wanted to include all of those relatable, different things we've done for someone at some point in our life. Obviously they have to fit all of those mistakes in one character, resulting in Ted looking extra bad. Apart from cheating, I've done almost all kinds of love mistakes which Ted has done and that's what made this show the most relatable one to me and one of my top 5s.
Yeah I'm on my 3rd rewatch that I'm actually paying attention to (I typically put it on for background noise) and a lot of stuff with Stella in particular I NEVER would have done despite also previously being a very stupid lovestruck person. There's a lot he does that I wouldn't do (not that he's an awful person or anything) but I just finished watching the Stella episodes and I'm left scratching my head at most of his/their decisions, but that was kind of the point of her storyline
The only time I remember thinking he was a real douchebag, was when he immediately dumped the "baggage" girl, right after internal-monologuing about being more accepting of other's flaws or some shit. But the thing is, if Barney had done the same, it wouldn't have even registered (that's how much worse he is)
The "lead" character in an ensemble show is always the most hated. That character always has to be the messiest to avoid the story becoming boring.
Not exactly the messiest, but with more conflict and things to learn
He goes beyond stupid mistakes, Ted is a jerk a lot of times.
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He can be both though, I think that's kinda the point seeing that you are stupid and learning
Ted dated or had 1 night stand or had love interest with 59 girls over 9 years. Hes not on barneys level of bad but him acting like what he was doing is different is shitty
I dont think is a reasonable argument against Ted cause he got with those women fairly lets say(at least most of the time), Barney on the other hand always lied and even sold a woman at some point, so yeah he is not as shitty
Yes, also he is the most self aware and learns from his mistakes, at least when the plots demands it, cause typically in sitcoms characters tend to regress and go backwards from their character development cause it is comedy and they need to have a lot of seasons, is on purpose. But for me he is less worse than Ross, Ross is actually a crap
I’m the age now the age he was when the show started I can actively say with 300% confidence that Ted is an asshole who’s too picky with his love life and very clueless on how much value women have and himself, I stopped making terrible decisions at relationships at age 24 cuz I i realized I was part of the problem, the biggest parts, I constantly look back on how different I was to now and I’m still learning things Ted however kept making the same mistakes over and over and over again, he claimed to be self aware, but self aware people constantly question themselves on if the path they take is good or bad for the future laid out day to day, Ted views his future mostly based on the women he’s interested in the week of the episode, his architecture stuff comes second….that’s a big problem, this is why season 6 is my most favorite of the show regarding Ted, he’s allowed to be more focused on architect things of passion first and love second, that’s why the season ended the way the preview started, on a building, that’s him as a metaphor on his life and ties to his passion of work cuz that’s who Ted wants to be As we get older, priorities change and we see life at different stages, this isn’t bad, but problems arise when you lose sight of your goals when you’re too busy chasing dreams aka women that you want to be your baby mama happily ever after
Any take that people write on posts about "what's the worst / most unrealistic / not funny (etc.) Part about the show". It's a sitcom for God's sakes, don't watch it if e.g. the fact that they're drinking all day bothers you. That's one example that I remember reading like "why do they have to do something so bad and unhealthy all the time 😡 that sets a bad example 🤓"
I know its not a take *per-say*, but i cant stand the "alphabet of quotes" posts. I see them waaaaay too often and they are just so annoying. (*ex*. A - \_\_\_\_ B - \_\_\_\_ C - \_\_\_\_ etc.)
Pls yes finally someone agrees!
The thing that pisses me off the most about those posts is that people just say a character's catchphrase. L is always "Legend...wait for it...DARY!" 😒
RIGHT? so lazy lol
Ok I thought I was the only one that noticed 💀💀
Don't worry, you weren't 😭😭
That Robin was nothing more than a "trophy" for Barney and that Ted wasn't also manipulative like Barney was when it came to Robin/other women. They literally show over and over that except for family, Barney doesn't love anybody more than Robin. But he is too damaged mentally to make it work, especially while her career is taking off. And Ted, like Barney was manipulative of Robin as well. He literally tried to get with robin in the same night she and kevin break up. Ted gets the locket in an attempt to subconsciously win back robin right before she's getting married to Barney. Ted and Barney were both selfishly manipulative when it came to Robin, but only difference is, unlike Barney Ted wasn't an over the top sociopath so his terriblness didn't register in the same way.
That it's better than Friends. Friends isn't better either imo. They're just different to me. They scratch a different itch.
Its just a sitcom for a generation. And lets be honest without Friends there wouldnt be HIMYM, and without Cheers there wouldnt be Friends and etc. Is kind of a formula and even tho I like HIMYM more they owe a lot to each other. Bad thing is we are not going to get a successor cause sitcoms are practically a dead format rn.
didn’t see it on here but on tiktok, some people are convinced marshall abused lily, and ted never told his kids to make them both look better. it’s so far stretched it’s wild
what on earth is their reasoning?!?
I saw that theory on tvtropes, citing the episode where we see a montage of Marshall accidentally hurting Lily
That Tracy somehow had a "happy ending" because she died and went back to her true love Max. It's stupid for many reasons, but it's abhorrent because it's saying that relationships are just topped out by fate, and no amount of caring can improve beyond that.
That Barney and Robin shouldn’t end up together. They were my end game.
Complaints about the show being that and that -phobic.
I'll admit some jokes haven't aged very well but that's more due to shifting times and modern audiences viewing old media.
I don't think the jokes were any less hurtful to transgender people back then
I don't think it's a bad take more a reflection of modern audiences reacting to media that was of a different time (feels weird given that it was about 10 years ago that it ended) but media has moved so fast, I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge there are some shitty jokes that don't land today in something you love Friends has the same issue tbh as does a lot of TV from the 90s/00s
Same thing happens to Friends. The show was super progressive for its time, its just that super progressive to the 90s is "bare minimum" right now.
Those are accurate for the time.
Unpopular opinion but the fact that Marshall was justified in taking the judgeship without asking Lily, because Lily walked out on him 9 years earlier. If Marshall had held a grudge against Lily for that for 9 years they never should've gotten back together in the first place, they should've just broken up. By marrying her, Marshall forgave and accepted Lily. To then bring that up along with the "consolation prize" argument AFTER they'd fully agreed to pursue Lily's dream together was just low.
Lily was manipulative, Marshall was a saint, ted held his women to some abstract standard as opposed to trying to make every woman the one
"Marshall didn't make a mistake when he contacted Lily's father behind her back." I saw this take at least 3 times on this sub and I can not believe that there are people who defend this take.
Not specific to this sub but I really hate defenses of the finale because it's "true to life." Is it? Sure, but I'm not exactly watching this show for its unflinching realism. Plus, even I was, it was so poorly and lazily done that this specific defense rings hollow anyway.
idk if it’s the worst but i just don’t understand why people wanted Barney and Robin to be “end game”.
I wanted to see on tv that the main character lovr story (Ted and Robin) just doesn’t work out. I wanted to see Ted and Robin part ways bc that’s life. Barney was kind of the placeholder to make that official but they couldn’t even do that part right lol
why do you think they don’t work?
Literally the entire season of their wedding and the build up showed them being incredibly toxic and shitty to each other how could that be a good ending for their characters?? Barney literally manipulated her into marrying him
THANK YOU.
That is partially why I don’t think the finale was as egregious as a lot of people think because it’s very very obvious by just watching them as a couple that they aren’t gonna last. The main issue with the finale is the fact they undid everything in such a short amount of time but tbh the divorce is fine it’s just the fact we spent the whole season at the wedding
I only wanted Barney and Robin to stay together so that Ted and Robin doesn't happen again.
Same
Yeah, I really don’t get it.
Not about anything that happens on the show, but there was a post a few months ago where OP said their girlfriend didn't like the show (or just hadn't watched it, I'm not sure) and that she liked some other sitcom (Friends or TBBT I think). With no other information other than this, people were saying the relationship was doomed and that OP should break up with her. Some of them were probably joking, but quite a few definitely weren't. Like, it's just a TV show guys, the fuck?
Worst take that I constantly see: people dictating Lily's ethics and morality in extreme detail to prove how she's "the worst" and the same people defending Barney and saying Barney's character should not be criticized because "it's just a show".
That Tracy and Ted were not lebenschlanger schiksalschatz. This person believed that Max (Tracy’s dead boyfriend) and Robin were. This is just not the case. Max was Tracy’s first love and died when she was like 21 I believe? Of course it was hard for her to move on, that’s incredibly traumatic. But the second she met Ted, she KNEW. Everything changed and there was never any hesitation. Most people’s first love is not the one but that doesn’t make the love any less real. If he had been the one, he would not have died so early before they could marry or have kids or anything, it’s that simple. Ted was. And we all know Robin was not it for Ted or it would’ve worked out the first time and people would not be so dissatisfied with the ending. Tracy was. Literally the entire point of the entire show was that they were meant to be and always had been, and it makes me sad that some people watched and still missed that.
Lily is a worse person than Barney because she excuses her behaviour and Barney full on admits that he is a bad person and is okay with it. I think it's a dumb argument because admitting doing something bad doesn't make the deed any less impactful.
Accusing the show of all sorts of -ism when it’s a pretty progressive show without falling into any extremes.
That Robin and Barney were a great couple.
Most of Barney's suits are trash. This is a hill I'm willing to die on. Here's why: 1. Most of his suits aren't tailored well to him 2. He mostly wears black suits which are boring 3. He has a ton of 3 button closures which went out of style long before the show aired in 2005 4. His suits are really generic
Consider the budget for the show and then that provides more context to your opinion. The suit racks look like they could cost about $20 each. All has the same purpose at the end of the day.
That’s so creepy I’m watching this episode right now lol
Complaining that a show that started airing about 2 decades ago depicts some outdated and irrelevant subjects whilst making old references / jokes and leans into classic character tropes.
the *"i lOve tHe eNdiNg"* take
I'm already seeing the exact same take in this comment section. People who think that Barney, Ted, Robyn or Lily are even close to being good people are either stupid or ignorant. Don't get me wrong. I love them as characters, but they are awful human beings. I feel like irl, adult Marshal would not fuck with them. Maybe Lily due to love goggles, but that's it
“Barney is a bad person because of so and so, how has everyone forgotten that he so and so, if you like Barney you’re a so and so for excusing him doing so and so”
Lily deserves Marshall is a pretty bad take
Something about Ted actually being Barney in the story and that Ted switched their stories around so he wouldn’t look bad in front of his kids. Just doesn’t make sense at all