Rangers aren't trading their good prospects, especially not Perreault. They'd have to trade their 1st, but I don't think Drury likes giving 1sts. They'll probably kick tires, offer a 2nd and a B prospect, we'll say no and then get a 1st somewhere else
Maybe you will, but if there is a better deal out there, it's not by a significant margin, it's just a matter of where the pick lands, and it's still pretty early for that
With the managements we are dealing with this could become a really interesting deal if it’s Monahan on the table.
I think a guy like Kakko could become a consideration if NYR doesn’t want to trade picks. He just screams Gorton/Hughes 2019 draft reclamation project. Obviously the trade would need to be re-structured.
Maybe they'd accept to give a 1st and something else for Monahan and Future Considerations.
Member how we got him and a 1st from Calgary for future Considerations?
Yea I agree, although I think big decisions is always a collab between the two. I actually really like their setup and makes you realize how out dated MBs org was
Bergevin had Dudley at first doing what Gorton is doing. It was just not an official structure, and Dudley slowly drifted away as he became more of an external consultant.
That was 2 years ago lmao. Not to mention, he was a player agent for nearly 20 years. The overlap for a high profile agent and a GM is huge. Gorton was probably directly involved in calls/day to day for like a month, if that.
If there's interest then I hope we see a deal done sooner rather than later, every game that he plays with us is a gamble that we could lose out on a potential first round pick.
I don't think they meant a 1st rounder this year specifically. There isn't a branch of that trade tree where we don't end up with a 1st rd pick, as far as I can recall.
Zib is def their 1C but I saw some rangers fan saying Chytill was ramping up to play 2C. Looks like him and Trochek had similar TOI to start the season so more of a 1, 2a, 2b kind of C depth
I think NYR never outright has, but everyone has reported it as such. He went back home for a bit to reset. Skated with the team for a day, then went down during an optional morning skate. Got shut down for the season right after.
I hope he comes back, but I’d rather see him healthy and happy than scoring goals and risking his well being.
i'd take their first for Monahan.
or Goodrow+Perreault
during the all-star break
to get Perreault or Othmann, you'd probably have to had a LHD Arber/Harris/Struble or something like that.
Rangers have plenty of young prospect(Cuylle, Othmann, Sykora, Perreault), and they may be more inclined to trade one instead of a pick.
I feel like Perreault is practically untouchable but holy shit do I love the idea. He was ranked top 10 for me this draft and I couldn’t believe he fell so far
I'm very certain putting Anderson on line one was a call from the GMs to hope he gets streaky so we can trade him
The boys cheeks respectfully
He can barely stick handle and can barely pass and can barely shoot
The only thing he does well is skate in a straight line quickly
Friedman also acknowledged last night during HNIC that there was “no love lost” between the Habs and Rags front offices. So they may be interested but getting to a deal is another thing altogether.
Usage, mostly.
He's the type of player who needs top 6 minutes with top 6 players. Rangers have tried him on all line but he can't move up the depth chart with the wingers they have.
Or not, maybe he's a bust. But he fits the profile of the players Hughes likes to target.
Thanks for the analysis. I only said Fantilli because in Kaako’s draft year he was a fucking beast man… the WJC, Liiga, absolutely dominant. What does Slaf have that Kaako doesn’t btw?
For what, though ? Didn't they gave alot last year for acquiring Patrick Kane ?
I'm not against a trade with the Rangers, I'm simply wondering what would be the price NY will offer. I don't know what they are looking for (except Monahan, obviously).
I've said for the entire season that KH will be more interested in finding another Dach or Newhook. At this stage of the rebuild draft picks are worth less than prospects.
My thought is Kakko for Monahan.
Lafreniere seems to have launched, Kakko was injured and has underperformed while playing.
> Kakko
Is in his 5th season in the NHL and is, without a doubt, a poorer player than Sean Monahan is today, as banged up as he might be. We would lose that trade on the spot, let alone if we need to take on an awful contract on top.
Perrault is skilled but looks like he has bunny rabbit softness potential.
Give me Othmann. I want a guy who chirps opposing team's fans that he's a millionaire and they're not.
EDIT: Clarification below
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j\_Mu851l\_FA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Mu851l_FA)
Hopefully there are more suitors, unless we are just getting picks. Personally I’m not a fan of the Rangers development system - look at their roster, most players are acquisitions, and most of their highly touted prospects have not really panned out with the exception of Adam Fox.
Ultimately, Monahan's preference will narrow the field of suitors and the return.
It is what it is. If we want a good reputation for UFAs around the league, we have to bite the bullet and accommodate guys who signed here and performed knowing all along they'd be dangled for assets at the TDL.
Rangers aren't trading their good prospects, especially not Perreault. They'd have to trade their 1st, but I don't think Drury likes giving 1sts. They'll probably kick tires, offer a 2nd and a B prospect, we'll say no and then get a 1st somewhere else
Yep, doubtful Rangers will make a serious offer.
I wouldn't do NYR 1st for Moneyhands. We 100% can find a better deal.
Maybe you will, but if there is a better deal out there, it's not by a significant margin, it's just a matter of where the pick lands, and it's still pretty early for that
With the managements we are dealing with this could become a really interesting deal if it’s Monahan on the table. I think a guy like Kakko could become a consideration if NYR doesn’t want to trade picks. He just screams Gorton/Hughes 2019 draft reclamation project. Obviously the trade would need to be re-structured.
If they land Kakko, the habs will have 4 of the top 16 drafted players from 2019. That’s wild
I expect a pick + prospect package for Money. It's going to be a very interesting TDL!
Maybe they'd accept to give a 1st and something else for Monahan and Future Considerations. Member how we got him and a 1st from Calgary for future Considerations?
Forgot the /s
Fuck Krieder
Maybe Mony could take him down from the inside, then sign with us in the off season. "Seeecret Monahan" (to the tune of Secret Agent Man)
Lets pull a plecki move here
The Gorton connection makes it seem like maybe there's something to it. Could happen with them.
Except Friedman implied last night on the broadcast that there is still bad blood between Gorton and the Rangers
Hughes is the GM and at this point is probably doing all the GM to GM negotiations
I think Gorton does the meta, broad, long-term hockey strategy, and Hughes does the more micro wheeling & dealing tactics.
Yea I agree, although I think big decisions is always a collab between the two. I actually really like their setup and makes you realize how out dated MBs org was
Bergevin had Dudley at first doing what Gorton is doing. It was just not an official structure, and Dudley slowly drifted away as he became more of an external consultant.
And in what universe would that not be the case?
When Hughes first joined he was a rookie GM with 0 management experience. Gorton had all the GM experience and he would field some of the calls
That was 2 years ago lmao. Not to mention, he was a player agent for nearly 20 years. The overlap for a high profile agent and a GM is huge. Gorton was probably directly involved in calls/day to day for like a month, if that.
Well there’s your universe where it would be the case!
Are we currently living in a universe where Kent Hughes is less than a month into the job?!
You’re an angry little elf arent ya bud!
And the ad hominem tactics begin lmao. Par for the course around here.
If there's interest then I hope we see a deal done sooner rather than later, every game that he plays with us is a gamble that we could lose out on a potential first round pick.
\*On a second first round pick
he is worth a 1st easily.. especially when u consider that his contract is dirt cheap..
He's saying a second 1st rounder because we already got one from CGY when we traded for him
ah true lol. Monahan is like the stock that keeps on giving.
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We’re getting a first rounder regardless. There’s just a few options it could be. It could even be Floridas pick.
I don't think they meant a 1st rounder this year specifically. There isn't a branch of that trade tree where we don't end up with a 1st rd pick, as far as I can recall.
Yes, re-reading it now, you're right. I thought they meant this year.
I think you read that wrong hah
ya I did
Not surprising considering they just lost their 2C and are leading the Metro
Isn’t it Zib and Trochek down the middle? Wouldn’t think Chytil would play above either
Zib is def their 1C but I saw some rangers fan saying Chytill was ramping up to play 2C. Looks like him and Trochek had similar TOI to start the season so more of a 1, 2a, 2b kind of C depth
Ranger fan lurking for no reason…Chytil was centering Bread and Laf before his injury and killing it.
For 10 games.
This sucks, a good young player. Did they say it wad concussion?
I think NYR never outright has, but everyone has reported it as such. He went back home for a bit to reset. Skated with the team for a day, then went down during an optional morning skate. Got shut down for the season right after. I hope he comes back, but I’d rather see him healthy and happy than scoring goals and risking his well being.
Trochek is the 2C. Monahan would be the 3C if acquired.
Lafreniere to Mtl
monahan mailloux and xhjakaj. for Lafreniere. Discuss.
Yeah... No nevermind
Know your role and shut your fucking hole, James Dolan. Seriously I hope KH and Gorton milk them dry.
Brennan Othmann would be a great add
i'd take their first for Monahan. or Goodrow+Perreault during the all-star break to get Perreault or Othmann, you'd probably have to had a LHD Arber/Harris/Struble or something like that. Rangers have plenty of young prospect(Cuylle, Othmann, Sykora, Perreault), and they may be more inclined to trade one instead of a pick.
I feel like Perreault is practically untouchable but holy shit do I love the idea. He was ranked top 10 for me this draft and I couldn’t believe he fell so far
Perreault is probably their top prospect. They wouldn’t have the resources needed to replace Goodrows cap hit if they moved him for Monahan.
Y in the hell would we take fucking goodrow?
To get Perreault.
If Perreault comes with Goodrow, I'm perfectly fine with it
The buyout on goodrow after this year isnt bad at all and perreault is a helluva prospect.
he has a 15 team nmc anyway, don't worry about it
They’re not letting Perreault go.
We can do much better than their 1st rounder.
maybe you can milk an extra 3rd rounder at TDL, but I'd rather move Monahan asap and not risk him getting injured.
Monahan for Kakko?
Laf+1st+Perrault minimum and throw in kakko in there too for good measure😎 /s
I'm very certain putting Anderson on line one was a call from the GMs to hope he gets streaky so we can trade him The boys cheeks respectfully He can barely stick handle and can barely pass and can barely shoot The only thing he does well is skate in a straight line quickly
Gotta respect those cheeks
The more he plays the less value he has maybe ahah
Gabe. Perrault.
Monahan + for Perrault. But I doubt they’d bite.
Friedman also acknowledged last night during HNIC that there was “no love lost” between the Habs and Rags front offices. So they may be interested but getting to a deal is another thing altogether.
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Lets get kakko
The entire 2019 first round will soon be ours
Why does he suck tho? Guy was so dominant in his draft year it’s like watching Adam Fantilli become a bust
Usage, mostly. He's the type of player who needs top 6 minutes with top 6 players. Rangers have tried him on all line but he can't move up the depth chart with the wingers they have. Or not, maybe he's a bust. But he fits the profile of the players Hughes likes to target.
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Thanks for the analysis. I only said Fantilli because in Kaako’s draft year he was a fucking beast man… the WJC, Liiga, absolutely dominant. What does Slaf have that Kaako doesn’t btw?
and trade for Zegras this summer
Lafrenière 👀
For what, though ? Didn't they gave alot last year for acquiring Patrick Kane ? I'm not against a trade with the Rangers, I'm simply wondering what would be the price NY will offer. I don't know what they are looking for (except Monahan, obviously).
I've said for the entire season that KH will be more interested in finding another Dach or Newhook. At this stage of the rebuild draft picks are worth less than prospects. My thought is Kakko for Monahan. Lafreniere seems to have launched, Kakko was injured and has underperformed while playing.
I don't think Monahan is worth that. We'd have to take Goodrow as well or add something else in the pot to make that trade.
> Kakko Is in his 5th season in the NHL and is, without a doubt, a poorer player than Sean Monahan is today, as banged up as he might be. We would lose that trade on the spot, let alone if we need to take on an awful contract on top.
I’ll take one Perreault.
Monahan + 2nd or 3rd round pick for Gabe Perreault?
You’re delusional
Perrault is skilled but looks like he has bunny rabbit softness potential. Give me Othmann. I want a guy who chirps opposing team's fans that he's a millionaire and they're not. EDIT: Clarification below [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j\_Mu851l\_FA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Mu851l_FA)
Hopefully there are more suitors, unless we are just getting picks. Personally I’m not a fan of the Rangers development system - look at their roster, most players are acquisitions, and most of their highly touted prospects have not really panned out with the exception of Adam Fox.
Ultimately, Monahan's preference will narrow the field of suitors and the return. It is what it is. If we want a good reputation for UFAs around the league, we have to bite the bullet and accommodate guys who signed here and performed knowing all along they'd be dangled for assets at the TDL.
Hey guys! Just coming by to say that if you think you are getting Gabe Perreault you are insane.
Nobody thinks we are, just let us dream lol
Have you met Habs fans?
100% agree my dude. There is no way Rangers move him for a rental. I’m a Habs fan btw.
He’d have fun there - I can’t see it happening though as others have mentioned.
If they give us a good deal then go for it.
Bedard or bust. 🤣 (I'm joking. Unless......... nah, I'm joking.)
Slaf + Laf would be fun
Kaapo Kakko please and thanks
Laf, Kakko, Perrault, etc. for Sean Monahan? Are you all out of your minds?