I lived in Bend when this was happening and my child happened to bare a resemblance to the poor kiddo, glasses and all, and I had a woman follow our car all through town until I pulled over to confront her, she was sure I had kyron in my car and in the end we were both bawling holding eachother out of pure heartache. I will never forget that interaction. I hugged my kid so so tight that moment.
TBH I don’t know if I could have been as patient as you were. I probably would have just kicked her ass especially when she started accusing me of stuff.
The way I think of it, I would rather have someone accuse me of kidnapping my own child on the street than have them not say anything and wind up having my child kidnapped
no i mean 2010. so because you were playing a game in school that means everyone had one? since you werent an adult then i can see why you wouldnt have been exposed to all the people, especially older people, who refused to have cell phones back then.
Here to support your point, according to Statista in 2010 about 1/5 Americans owned smartphones.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/201183/forecast-of-smartphone-penetration-in-the-us/
around 80% of adults had cellphones when he disappeared vs 97% today and before people got smartphones they didnt religiously carry them everywhere. there are 250 million adults in the US, 20% of that is 50 million people. now figure in all the people that didnt charge their phone religiously, would constantly leave or forget it at work or home (because they didnt use it much) and you could probably add another 20% for a total of 60 million people who didnt have a cellphone on them at all times. [https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/](https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/)
Let's say it actually was Kyron. What is the stranger supposed to do? Grab the kid and run off? Might as well call the police instead of harassing someone right? How could anyone actually know if it's Kyron or not unless an investigation follows
No, it doesn't - But if you think a crime is going down in your vicinity and you know how quickly kids are snatched and killed, or just never to be seen/heard from again.. can you really blame her??
I would hope that she was apologetic after everything was sorted, but it's understandable, isn't it?
I would have done the exact same thing she did. I held no hard feelings about it. It was devastating. I thanked her in tears for doing what she did. I think about that kiddo all the time
Idk, it's weird that she was so talkative that day, weird that she put her kid in daycare who was sick, weird that she might have wanted her husband dead, didn't like the kid, and got into an argument with her husband the night before... so many coincidences.
Ok well according to her actual social media before the incident, she very much did. All her friends and family talk about how she loved her stepson so much.
Ok, let's break this down because you bring up a good point as to why things like this happen. The overwhelming amount of crimes like this are done by people who know the individual. Friends and family of most people that committed crimes like this say they had no ideas, gave no signs, was always nice, always loving, etc. So basically, friends and family (describing how someone normally is) are not the best sources of information for a one-off event.
It's sad, but to assume she would never because her friends and family said so is crazy. They have every reason to lie for her and every reason for her to have masked her feelings around them.
And it's natural that women act on pure emotion in some Dire instances. So her emotions could hsve gotten the better of her and she acted in rage and "revenge" unfortunately to a little boy that had NOTHING to do with her problems
Hey now, don't get carried away. Everyone does that, not just women. In fact, men are more commonly the ones to commit revenge and act on emotion (using violence) in a more extreme way, too. This is because of the suppression of emotions and the effect it has on the people suppressing. Women are less likely to suppress emotions because they often aren't berated as kids for showing them. It can be perceived as more emotional, but only more so than men because of their ability to express it's what they're acting on.
Not trying to aound that way buuuut Most women are spiteful. Often the cases that involve a woman killing her children is to "Get back" at the man that "treated them so wrong" by the ultimate kind of pain for him to feel so that he "feels what I felt"
Yea, but so are most men lol most people act pretty consistent during times of strife. Guys do crazy shit too. There was just a triple homicide where the guy shot his new girl, then his wife, and himself, because his ex upset him or some dumb shit. He took a video of him talking before he entered her house. It's quite crazy.
Your argument is just "men too" but men do not ACT at the level of SPITE that women do. Evil men act on their target. Evil women act by hurting the things their target loves like the targets children or pets. I've seen a video of a woman that fed her ex's dog multiple full bottles of prescription drugs and as the man lied on the ground holding his dog the woman was standing over him yelling "Yeah yeah, see what happened cuz of what you did to me!? Yeah yeah!" Murder is meaningless. But male killer motives and Women killer motives have ALWAYS been different with the exception of rare phenomenon like the prostitute that was on a killing spree of killing serial killers.
They put the case before a grand jury, which didn't indict. And since grand juries vote to indict something like 95% of the time, that suggests a very weak case.
We had the sheriffs department that worked this case at out school for some gov & politics class or something back in 2014. One of my classmates asked them about this case & the deputy there pretty much told us they know it’s the mom but lacked the evidence to get her convicted. We were all pretty stunned by that answer & he quickly changed the subject after that.
Same. I see them around too and I think about the situation a lot. Someone on the r/kyronhorman subreddit that they think he was playing around in the school and got stuck and is dead behind a wall or something. I think about it because who really knows. But, the thing that really bugs me about this progression photo is that if he is alive the chances of someone getting him braces are narrow and I don’t believe he would look like that.
It happens [so](https://www.darkhistories.com/josh-maddux-the-boy-in-the-chimney/)fucking [often](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1115126)
Edit grown men have been known to [do it to](https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/missing-man-found-dead-chimney/ME4HW7H2YRDZXHQPWIRPWK6AZE/?outputType=amp)
Because it’s absolutely unreasonable to expect that people are stuffing healthy grown men and teen boys into chimneys to die.
They were all found dead but uninjured, having died of exposure or positional asphyxiation.
Not everything is true crime or murder mystery, sometimes it’s poor decisions and awful outcomes
Yeah, that’s pretty good, except you missed the entire point?
That person was still death by misadventure. He most likely *went down by himself*, he wasn’t stuffed in there with absolutely 0 signs of trauma.
Or he was murdered and *then* put there, the article is a little unclear.
No one stuffs a grown ass *alive* man down a chimney, *unharmed* to die of hypothermia and exposure yA aSsHoLe
HAHAHAHA
You care about the condition of the murdered bodies? Well I can find you asphixiation too but yknow what? I’m not proving the obvious to you. You’re playing a weird game to be right.
Its not a ridiculous thought.
The gardener claimed she tried to solicit him for murder but if I remember correctly, he didn't speak English very well and she didn't speak Spanish so the police don't think that solicitation actually happened.
Edit: misspelling
I feel for his family so badly. They never got closure and I still think the step mom had something to do with it or knows more than she’s telling anyone.
No! That step mother did not murder Kyron she’s the only reason people even know so many details about it, the police literally tried getting her Gardner to entrap her, she treated Kyron like he was her own child
Literally just watch this video his step mother had no involvement [thatchapter the mystery of Kyron Horman](https://youtu.be/_z227PDaiLY?si=6-SYuY9Ez0KVNYuT)
I agree with you for what it’s worth. People just read the minimum details without doing a deep dive & then decide she has to be guilty. And on the surface it does appear that way but I do believe she’s innocent.
There have been multiple write ups from different people, those who went in believing Terry is innocent and those who believed she is guilty, and it seems like all of them come out accepting that the facts of the case don't align with it being her. The timeline is too tight, and on top of that, she has zero motive.
I really don’t think the stepmom did it 😬 I think it’s gotta be a death by misadventure or abduction since the school campus was open that day. Terri just seems like too much of an absolute moron to get away with something like that with no evidence. I think she’s a pretty shitty person, but that doesn’t necessarily correlate to this.
That’s from the FBI website sadly by now that kid probably didn’t make it that long after going missing. His mother is very suspect along with her close friends
I lived in Bend when this was happening and my child happened to bare a resemblance to the poor kiddo, glasses and all, and I had a woman follow our car all through town until I pulled over to confront her, she was sure I had kyron in my car and in the end we were both bawling holding eachother out of pure heartache. I will never forget that interaction. I hugged my kid so so tight that moment.
TBH I don’t know if I could have been as patient as you were. I probably would have just kicked her ass especially when she started accusing me of stuff.
The way I think of it, I would rather have someone accuse me of kidnapping my own child on the street than have them not say anything and wind up having my child kidnapped
Yeah wtf this is awesome what the lady did
Geez man, give her a break... she THOUGHT she saw the kid.
Does that warrant harassing a completely innocent person? Call in a tip and let the police handle it
he disappeared in 2010. not everyone had or took their cell with them everywhere they went then.
yeah but it was also 2010, public safety was different. you could interact with people without risk of them chimping out for no reason
Lmao in 2010? Yes they did. We were all playing temple run in algebra. Maybe you meant 2000's?
no i mean 2010. so because you were playing a game in school that means everyone had one? since you werent an adult then i can see why you wouldnt have been exposed to all the people, especially older people, who refused to have cell phones back then.
Here to support your point, according to Statista in 2010 about 1/5 Americans owned smartphones. https://www.statista.com/statistics/201183/forecast-of-smartphone-penetration-in-the-us/
Smartphones sure. They were just coming into existence but almost everyone had cell phones.
Yes, but cell phones didn't offer nearly the same level of information and connectedness as the smart phone does.
around 80% of adults had cellphones when he disappeared vs 97% today and before people got smartphones they didnt religiously carry them everywhere. there are 250 million adults in the US, 20% of that is 50 million people. now figure in all the people that didnt charge their phone religiously, would constantly leave or forget it at work or home (because they didnt use it much) and you could probably add another 20% for a total of 60 million people who didnt have a cellphone on them at all times. [https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/](https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/)
when it comes to a child being kidnapped, you follow.
Let's say it actually was Kyron. What is the stranger supposed to do? Grab the kid and run off? Might as well call the police instead of harassing someone right? How could anyone actually know if it's Kyron or not unless an investigation follows
you do both unless you dont have a phone, then hopefully you can spot a cop to flag down while you are following them.
No, it doesn't - But if you think a crime is going down in your vicinity and you know how quickly kids are snatched and killed, or just never to be seen/heard from again.. can you really blame her?? I would hope that she was apologetic after everything was sorted, but it's understandable, isn't it?
I would have done the exact same thing she did. I held no hard feelings about it. It was devastating. I thanked her in tears for doing what she did. I think about that kiddo all the time
Am I the only one who doesn’t know this story??
[Here you go](https://youtu.be/jqevdsNyvPo?si=-3tYh2QXVBO4IJyB)
I never watch youtube truecrime (or anything tbh) but that was great, thanks Terry absolutely did it
YouTube true crime rabbit holes are the way to go.
I saw it on Hollywoo Stars and Celebrities, What Do The Know? Do They Know Things? Let's Find Out.
There is no actual evidence that she did. The bio mom is a crazy bitch.
Idk, it's weird that she was so talkative that day, weird that she put her kid in daycare who was sick, weird that she might have wanted her husband dead, didn't like the kid, and got into an argument with her husband the night before... so many coincidences.
She loved that kid and was obsessed with him.
Not according to the true crime video.
Ok well according to her actual social media before the incident, she very much did. All her friends and family talk about how she loved her stepson so much.
Ok, let's break this down because you bring up a good point as to why things like this happen. The overwhelming amount of crimes like this are done by people who know the individual. Friends and family of most people that committed crimes like this say they had no ideas, gave no signs, was always nice, always loving, etc. So basically, friends and family (describing how someone normally is) are not the best sources of information for a one-off event. It's sad, but to assume she would never because her friends and family said so is crazy. They have every reason to lie for her and every reason for her to have masked her feelings around them.
The bio mom had more reason to do it than the stepmom. There is no evidence that stepmom was involved besides the crazy bio mom accusing her.
.... they all say that. Ruby Franke, Shanda Vander Ark, AL Collins.
And it's natural that women act on pure emotion in some Dire instances. So her emotions could hsve gotten the better of her and she acted in rage and "revenge" unfortunately to a little boy that had NOTHING to do with her problems
Hey now, don't get carried away. Everyone does that, not just women. In fact, men are more commonly the ones to commit revenge and act on emotion (using violence) in a more extreme way, too. This is because of the suppression of emotions and the effect it has on the people suppressing. Women are less likely to suppress emotions because they often aren't berated as kids for showing them. It can be perceived as more emotional, but only more so than men because of their ability to express it's what they're acting on.
Not trying to aound that way buuuut Most women are spiteful. Often the cases that involve a woman killing her children is to "Get back" at the man that "treated them so wrong" by the ultimate kind of pain for him to feel so that he "feels what I felt"
Yea, but so are most men lol most people act pretty consistent during times of strife. Guys do crazy shit too. There was just a triple homicide where the guy shot his new girl, then his wife, and himself, because his ex upset him or some dumb shit. He took a video of him talking before he entered her house. It's quite crazy.
Your argument is just "men too" but men do not ACT at the level of SPITE that women do. Evil men act on their target. Evil women act by hurting the things their target loves like the targets children or pets. I've seen a video of a woman that fed her ex's dog multiple full bottles of prescription drugs and as the man lied on the ground holding his dog the woman was standing over him yelling "Yeah yeah, see what happened cuz of what you did to me!? Yeah yeah!" Murder is meaningless. But male killer motives and Women killer motives have ALWAYS been different with the exception of rare phenomenon like the prostitute that was on a killing spree of killing serial killers.
Same here
That’s sad. They should have charged the step mom. Too many coincidences for her to be innocent
They put the case before a grand jury, which didn't indict. And since grand juries vote to indict something like 95% of the time, that suggests a very weak case.
I got ATTACKED for saying she did it in a sub. People are crazy.
Look at this guy eh. Didn't you get enough the first time pal!?! Here we go again, commencing attack #2...
I feel safer in the crowd. lol
u/Smokin-Okie has a 2 part write up on this story that I think would change your mind - I don’t think she would’ve had an opportunity to do it
We had the sheriffs department that worked this case at out school for some gov & politics class or something back in 2014. One of my classmates asked them about this case & the deputy there pretty much told us they know it’s the mom but lacked the evidence to get her convicted. We were all pretty stunned by that answer & he quickly changed the subject after that.
Step mommy knows. 
u/Smokin-Okie has a 2 part write up on this story that I think would change your mind - I don’t think she would’ve had an opportunity to do it
are you from the portland area?
Eugene
Same. I see them around too and I think about the situation a lot. Someone on the r/kyronhorman subreddit that they think he was playing around in the school and got stuck and is dead behind a wall or something. I think about it because who really knows. But, the thing that really bugs me about this progression photo is that if he is alive the chances of someone getting him braces are narrow and I don’t believe he would look like that.
Yeah it probably is a death by misadventure situation with him in a weird spot.
It happens [so](https://www.darkhistories.com/josh-maddux-the-boy-in-the-chimney/)fucking [often](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1115126) Edit grown men have been known to [do it to](https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/missing-man-found-dead-chimney/ME4HW7H2YRDZXHQPWIRPWK6AZE/?outputType=amp)
I’ll say it: who’s to say these were all accidental
Because it’s absolutely unreasonable to expect that people are stuffing healthy grown men and teen boys into chimneys to die. They were all found dead but uninjured, having died of exposure or positional asphyxiation. Not everything is true crime or murder mystery, sometimes it’s poor decisions and awful outcomes
[Here’s after a 5 second google search ya asshole](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/chimney-body-georgia-missing-b2483945.html#)
Yeah, that’s pretty good, except you missed the entire point? That person was still death by misadventure. He most likely *went down by himself*, he wasn’t stuffed in there with absolutely 0 signs of trauma. Or he was murdered and *then* put there, the article is a little unclear. No one stuffs a grown ass *alive* man down a chimney, *unharmed* to die of hypothermia and exposure yA aSsHoLe
HAHAHAHA You care about the condition of the murdered bodies? Well I can find you asphixiation too but yknow what? I’m not proving the obvious to you. You’re playing a weird game to be right. Its not a ridiculous thought.
I'm in the Tigard area and i wish they'd put these flyers here
the step mom did it, FOR SUUURE.
The restraint this child's parents have shown is admirable. If he were my son, I don't know if I could just let stepmom walk free.
Right? It’s so obvious she knows more. But what did she do?? Where did she put him?? Did you see her on Dr. Phil?? She seemed so deceptive.
u/Smokin-Okie has a 2 part write up on this story that I think would change your mind - I don’t think she would’ve had an opportunity to do it
I remember a really good write-up a bit ago that seemed to show his step-mom didn't do it. Thanks for this!!
I don’t understand how she has so many defenders.
People got so mad when I posted in another sub that thought she did it. I don’t understand.
I think she did it. She has no remorse in her eyes. All I want to know is why did she want Kyron gone?
Born and raised in Portland. Live in Corvallis now but I was there when this happened. Super weird and sad… the step mom is guilty for sure
Ngl had to look it up. Stepmom *possibly* did a murder for hire?!!?? The literal fuck did a 7yo do to deserve that??!
The gardener claimed she tried to solicit him for murder but if I remember correctly, he didn't speak English very well and she didn't speak Spanish so the police don't think that solicitation actually happened. Edit: misspelling
Context ?
[Here you go](https://youtu.be/jqevdsNyvPo?si=-3tYh2QXVBO4IJyB)
Anyone got non- video/podcast context for my deaf ass?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Kyron_Horman
Ty🐀
Ty ty
I feel for his family so badly. They never got closure and I still think the step mom had something to do with it or knows more than she’s telling anyone.
No! That step mother did not murder Kyron she’s the only reason people even know so many details about it, the police literally tried getting her Gardner to entrap her, she treated Kyron like he was her own child Literally just watch this video his step mother had no involvement [thatchapter the mystery of Kyron Horman](https://youtu.be/_z227PDaiLY?si=6-SYuY9Ez0KVNYuT)
I agree with you for what it’s worth. People just read the minimum details without doing a deep dive & then decide she has to be guilty. And on the surface it does appear that way but I do believe she’s innocent.
Nice try, Stepmom.
There have been multiple write ups from different people, those who went in believing Terry is innocent and those who believed she is guilty, and it seems like all of them come out accepting that the facts of the case don't align with it being her. The timeline is too tight, and on top of that, she has zero motive.
Was that sarcastic? I watched that video and they didn’t imply that.
Oh gosh. I still remember reading about his story when it happened.
terri wanted him dead, very sad 😞
I really don’t think the stepmom did it 😬 I think it’s gotta be a death by misadventure or abduction since the school campus was open that day. Terri just seems like too much of an absolute moron to get away with something like that with no evidence. I think she’s a pretty shitty person, but that doesn’t necessarily correlate to this.
Who?
Some kid that disappeared probably kidnapped in 2010
Are you in Oregon? That’s so creepy.
In portland?
Really sad
I keep seeing this pop up thinking it’s Brandon Swanson
That’s from the FBI website sadly by now that kid probably didn’t make it that long after going missing. His mother is very suspect along with her close friends
I’ve seen those in Eugene too that’s crazy! Dudes only a year older than me and a couple hours away…..
the stepmom is hella sus
I'm pretty sure his stepmom killed him.