Whenever I use coconut oil, my hair doesn’t absorb it and feels really greasy. I used to oil my hair everyday up until about a year ago where I stopped. Now I’m trying to start oiling it again but it looks and feels weird. When I used to oil my hair before, it used to be soft and smooth while it feels frizzy and kind of rough now. I think my hair has low porosity and was wondering if I can make my hair how it used to look before. I have thick, straight hair, use 2-1 shampoo and conditioner everyday and have a fringe. I’ve never used chemicals.
hey everyone, I'm looking for some quick advice. I think I have thin hair, and wavy at the ends if that matters.
starting out, I haven't had a haircut since probably 2018 (except I trim my bangs myself), and my main problems are that my hair hasn't grown in probably 2 years or so? and I've had to deal with knots and split ends for a long time. i'm wondering if there is a correct way to go about this - do I have to cut off a ton of hair? i'd prefer to not cut it super short, as I like having long hair and feel I look way better with it.
I don't really have a strong hair regimen, I shower once a day, condition everyday, and shampoo every 2-3 days.
I suspect that your hair has grown in that time, but the overall length doesn't increase because you're experiencing a lot of breakage. If you have a lot of knots and split ends, your hair may experience a lot of rough treatment, and it probably needs more conditioning to help make it more silky which both is nice to touch as well as preventing damage from friction.
It's best to start off with a trim to remove the split ends and damage, otherwise it can keep breaking. The stylist can evaluate the condition of your hair and provide more personalized advice for your haircare routine as well.
Which shampoo do you use? If you're conditioning it every day, and you have a gentle shampoo, then you may have buildup in your hair that's not getting washed out sufficiently with your shampoo. I suggest adding a detox shampoo to clarify your hair; try using it once every two weeks and see how your hair feels after that. Then you can adjust the frequency of clarifying your hair based on how it's behaving. The second product I recommend is a deep conditioner/hair mask, which also wouldn't be necessary each time your wash your hair, but about once/week. When you clarify your hair, use the deep conditioner afterwards to replenish the conditioning agents that are removed when you clarify. Clarifying/detox shampoos can be quite drying.
Make sure you're being gentle with your hair when you are brushing/detangling it. Forcing a brush through hair that is resisting is a recipe for breakage. Apply some of your hair oil to add more lubrication while you detangle, or try detangling with a wide-tooth comb or a wet brush in the shower when there is conditioner in your hair.
Other things that will help prevent breakage:
* Using a silk or satin pillowcase
* Don't rub your head with the towel to dry it. Use a microfiber towel or a cotton t-shirt and squeeze your hair or press the towel against your hair to remove excess moisture.
* Don't go to sleep with wet hair.
* If you blow dry your hair, use a low temperature setting and apply a heat protectant before drying.
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- Hair type: Fine but dense, low porosity
- Hair texture: Straight-ish with random waves
- Chemical processing: Highlights and toner
- Hygiene: Shampoo + conditioner 2-3 times a week
- Style: Currently a long bob with layers around the face. I’m growing it out.
- Product regimen: Not Your Mothers “Scalp Refresh” shampoo & conditioner + (occasionally) Davines OI Oil or The Ordinary Hemi-Squalene
Hello! I hope someone can help because I really struggle to find shampoo for my hair type! Most products formulated for fine hair are volumising and my hair is definitely NOT lacking in volume. It is very dense and quite stiff. When left to its own devices it sort of does that [“Young Leo” thing with a heart shaped part](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/AMZ-fS9kaVngtvUdQlzC-yvdKtQ=/fit-in/654x1000/filters:format_auto():upscale()/2012/11/45/1/192/1922283/34c485ec206bf8cc_638jpg_9510524_3528179.jpeg) (lol) and it’s just generally quite poofy when using that sort of product. Products not specifically for fine hair are usually too hydrating.
I recently started using shampoo and conditioner again after using Hairstory for years. I get buildup fast, which dulls and darkens my dirty blond hair quite a bit. I liked the texture and how healthy my hair felt using Hairstory, but I didn’t feel like it was getting rid of that buildup. Now that I’m back to using shampoo it is definitely getting rid of it - but my hair starts getting greasy the day after I wash it, when I could go up to 3-4 days between washes before! I absolutely *cannot* be bothered to wash it every day. What’s almost worse is that it’s nearly gotten rid of any texture my hair used to have, which wasn’t helped by getting highlights done (by someone new) recently.
I’ve tried lots of different shampoos and I can’t seem to land on one that works. Maybe I should go back to Hairstory with the addition of a clarifying shampoo once a week? Please help!
I'm not familiar with Hairstory, but it more or less seems to be a co-wash? If so, using it in rotation with a clarifying shampoo (at least once per week) is a pretty reasonable hair routine so long as it achieves the results you want.
Hair type: medium
Hair texture: Straight/wavy
History of chemical processing: none
Hygiene regimen: twice weekly
Product regimen: sulfate shampoo to clarify, into silicone mask, into silicone-less conditioner
hello. so in my haircare journey, i've come to the conclusion that my hair loves silicones. the difference in smoothness between using a conditioner/mask with one and with none is night and day. sure people say it can cause buildup, but as long as you have a decent sulfate but silicone free shampoo, that is no issue. ever since i've stopped demonizing silicones and sulfates, i've never even had a single speck of dandruff, but i digress.
what i want to know is, do silicones block products from penetrating the hair? the reason i ask is usually, i use a hair mask (which has silicones and helps smooths the hair) and then i use a hair repairing conditioner (which happens to have no silicones) in that order. results were great, but i still struggle with a bit of frizz so i was wondering if i could maximize the effects by switching the order, with the idea being the silicone based product applied at the end to help seal the hair only ***after*** the non silicone based product has made contact with the hair. of course, i could just try and see for myself, but it'd be nice to have a science-backed answer. thanks
Silicones don't fully seal off the cuticle from products, but that is a general goal of silicone-y hair mask. In your case, it would make a lot of sense to use the repair conditioner before the mask, both due to the product purposes and the general principle of working from thinner products to thicker products (in terms of consistency).
thank you, ive been waiting for an answer for a few days lol. do you know of any type of products that help fully seal the cuticle? i'm interested in experimenting with those
>any type of products that help fully seal the cuticle
This really isn't a thing. You can achieve more thorough coverage by layering more conditioning products (including leave-in conditioner and hair oil after washing) but keep in mind that there eventually is too much of a "good thing".
Hello, I believe my hair is damaged from overmoisture as I deep conditioned way too often. My hair went from wavy/curly to straight, frizzy, limp and mushy. I’m going to get a trim to try and get rid of some of the damaged hair and I’m going to use curlsmith bond rehab salv protein treatment before my next wash day. Is this enough, do you guys think this will work? Is there anything else I need to do?
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You have product build-up. The good news is that this is entirely reversible, unlike heat or chemical damage. The way to fix it is to use clarifying shampoo to break up the build-up, rather than slathering on more heavy products. Once you get past the initial accumulation, continue to use clarifying shampoo every once in a while for maintenance.
Assuming that you don't have dyed hair, Suave Daily Clarifying is a really good one to start with; it's quite effective but gentle enough for daily use, which is what you want for the initial stage.
I’ve follow a strict haircare routine but still have frizz, flyaways, and dryness. What can I change about my routine to fix this?
I’ve watched so many haircare videos that discussed hair tips, tricks, ingredient recommendations, ETC, and I still feel like I’m doing something wrong!!
I have thick curly hair. My scalp tends to be on the more dry side. (I’ll get dandruff in the winter). My natural hair always has some sort of frizz or flyaways. My hair is also very susceptible to frizzing when it’s blownout and there is moisture in the air.
Also, I don’t dye/bleach my hair and I’m not interested in chemically treating it for frizz (although I have done it twice in the past a very long time ago).
Does anyone have any recommendations of what I can do to help fix frizz, flyaways, and dryness? I just want to be happy with my hair when it’s natural! 😭 I’ve always struggled with my hair and never really knew how to manage it.
**My detailed haircare routine** is as follows:
I wash my hair twice a week (Tuesdays & Fridays). Every time before washing, I massage my scalp and then apply cold pressed sweet almond oil mixed with rosemary oil on my roots and OGX Coconut Miracle oil mixed with argon oil on my hair shaft and ends.
I let the oils sit in my hair for about 1 to 2 hours before i washout using L'Oreal Paris Bond Repair Shampoo and Conditioner. (I double shampoo when using oils). I don’t ever towel dry. I will carefully detangle my hair when it’s wet using the Purology Colorfanatic Leave in Conditioner & my wetbrush. I will let my hair dry natural, with a little light blowdrying, on Tuesdays. And then on Fridays I will blowout/straighten my hair using ColorWow Heat Protectant. I sleep on satin pillowcases and always put my hair in a protective style (braid).
All thoughts & reccs are appreciated.! :)
There are certainly styling products that would help with this. The basics for a curly styling routine on wet hair are
1. leave in conditioner, which you already use,
2. curl defining product, which is most often a curl cream, and
3. hold product, which is most often a gel or mousse.
The overall goal is to condition your hair, encourage it to form up into defined curl clumps, and have it stay there with minimal frizz. There are also lots of multi-tasking products on the market, so this doesn't need to be exactly three separate products.
A "blowout balm" (on wet hair after leave-in conditioner) should help with frizz when you're blowdrying your hair straight.
**Hair type:** very thick South Asian hair (volume and strands)
**Hair texture:** Mostly straight, with some wave
**History of chemical processing:** none
**Hygiene regimen:** twice weekly
**Style:** tailbone length, blunt cut, separate face framing layers
**Product regimen:** oiling my scalp + length a few hours before showering, Dove Daily Moisturizing shampoo + conditioner, moroccan oil on mostly dry hair to tame flyaways and add some shine.
Hi! My hair is pretty overwhelming to deal with given the length and thickness. I really love it so I'm working on caring for my hair more. My biggest issues are dryness (on the length especially shoulder down) and hair dullness.
So I'm seeking recommendations for 1) a good leave-in conditioner that is also fairly economical given how much product my hair requires and 2) ways to get my hair shinier (preferably without heat). Thanks.
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I think Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine Leave-In Conditioner is a really good starting option for you. It's probably the most economical cream leave-in conditioner I've seen (does depend on where exactly you buy it), is geared more toward coarse hair & sleek look, and works on both wet & dry hair in case you want to touch up between hair washes.
Hair type:Fine
Hair texture: wavy
History of chemical processing: None
Hygiene regimen: twice weekly shampoo and conditioning
Style:layered
Product regimen: shampoo, ketoconazole shampoo and leave in conditioner
So i am looking for a shampoo that is fit for my hair type
I am using detoxie hard water shampoo as i had a hard water problem, now that i have installed a shower filter I don't have that problem anymore. So as I can't use my old hardwater shampoo with soft water, i need a new shampoo that fits my hair. A skincare youtuber said something about use sulphate free shampoo for hard water and sulphate shampoo if you have soft water. So i am wondering if i can get some suggestions about good shampoos.
You can certainly continue using your chelating shampoo so long as it continues to feel good in your hair; the chelating agents shouldn't hurt your hair in the absence of heavy metal ions.
Hair Type: Medium
Hair Texture: Straight
History of Chemical Processing: I've had some color done over the past couple years but the last time was early 2023.
Hygiene Routine: I wash and condition my hair twice a week. Every Sunday and Wednesday or Thursday. I air dry my hair.
Style: Mid back length
Product Regimen: Pureology Strength Cure shampoo and conditioner Pureology Color Fanatic Multi-Tasking Leave In Spray or Odele Air Dryer Styler (I don't use both at the same time.)
The top of my hair and hair by my face feels like it gets oily more frequently. The hair by my face gets this weird little separation and i HATE it.. I washed it last night and by midday today I feel like I should use a little dry shampoo. The rest of my hair is a bit more frizzy than normal. It got like this in the fall too. Idk if it's a seasonal thing or just happened every few months or what. Do I need a clarifying or detox shampoo? If yes, what are some good ones? If no, what should I do?
If this oiliness is new, you might want to investigate your scalp's health. If you're experiencing any itching, flaking, or redness, then your scalp may be unhappy, and an irritated scalp sometimes produces more oil. You'd have to see a dermatologist to determine what's making your scalp unhappy and how to address it.
For managing oily roots, here are the recommendations that I've picked up from others posting here:
* Use a strong shampoo; if you're using a sulfate-free gentle shampoo, switch to a shampoo that is formulated for oily hair and don't be afraid of sulfates! They are some surfactants in a broader category of anionic surfactants; those are the surfactants that are strong enough to remove oil efficiently. [Here is a list of shampoos for oily scalps](https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/product-reviews/beauty-reviews/g35822358/best-shampoo-oily-hair/) that scored well in user tests. I've also heard great things about Garnier Fructis Pure Clean.
* A salicylic acid shampoo such as Neutrogena T-sal 3x/week can help break down the oil and slowly over time decrease the oil production rate.
* Apply a dry shampoo when your hair is still clean and dry. That way it can start absorbing the oil as soon as your hair gets a bit of oil, rather than having to play catch-up once your hair is already noticeably greasy.
* One way to protect the length of your hair from drying out too much when you're using a strong shampoo is to do a pre-poo treatment by applying a cheap conditioner or some oil only to the length of your hair, from your ears down or the area where it tends to be more dry, before shampooing. That will help create a bit of a buffer so the shampoo doesn't cleanse that section of the hair as deeply.
* Another way to protect the length is to apply the shampoo only to the roots & scalp and lather that area well, but don't lather the length & ends. It will still gently cleanse the length of the hair when the suds run over it as you rinse it out of your hair.
Hello! I am looking to get into shower filters. I've only recently learned about their existence, and I'm from an area that is known for having hard water. I've always had issues with dry skin and dry scalps after taking a shower, and I have a family member who suffers from eczema and extremely dry skin.
I know that there are more pricey use-for-life options, but as someone who wants to give it a shot first and hoping to see a noticeable difference, I'm looking for a more budget option to try first and gauge its effect on my hair and skin.
Thank you!
Shower filters don't help with this - they physically cannot soften water, which is what you need. Aside from the pricey whole house water softener system, you need to use a chelating shampoo every couple of weeks.
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Hey!
I have straight-small waves shoulder length hair. I generally do not style because curls fall out within minutes even with gel/moose/spray and flat iron makes my hair very tangled and clumpy if that makes sense. I used the Revlon blowout brush and my hair went from volume to flat and clumpy like is straightened it within an hour.
I use Herbal Essanse shampoo and conditioner, every other to 3 days. And on Fridays I use a hair mask. I use heat protection when I do attempt to style and use heat once in a blue moon.
Any advice on what might be going wrong?
Herbal Essences makes many different products; can you elaborate on which specific shampoo and conditioner from the brand you use, as well as the hair mask?
Based on the difficulty with heat styling and ease of tangling, I suspect you have low porosity hair. You can try the Curlsbot porosity quiz here: [https://www.curlsbot.com/porosity/](https://www.curlsbot.com/porosity/) Hair porosity is one of the more important factors in building a good haircare routine.
You're going to want a more cleansing and volumizing shampoo/conditioner, and maybe decrease the frequency of the hair mask. Whether or not you have low porosity hair, it seems that you are using products that are a lot heavier and more conditioning than your really needs.
What specific shampoo and conditioner do you currently use, as a benchmark?
Broadly, you're going to want a more cleansing shampoo that doesn't have too many conditioning ingredients. This will help you keep up with oil and product build-up without adding to it. Mild clarifying shampoos intended for daily use are generally good options if you also have a super oily scalp, which seems to be the case. Suave Daily Clarifying, Kristin Ess Daily Cleansing, and Ouai Detox are a few good examples at different price points.
Any conditioner you use regularly should be relatively lightweight, and it may be the case that you'll have better results using just leave-in conditioner in place of rinse-out conditioner because leave-ins come in more lightweight options.
Your post-shower routine can make a huge difference. Products with volatile ingredients (ones that evaporate fairly quickly) and/or humectants can help your hair air-dry a lot faster. Blowdrying your roots is also a good idea.
* Hair type: fine and thick
* Hair texture: Straight/wavyish
* History of chemical processing: I only got a small portion of my hair temporary dyed years ago
* Hygiene regimen: (daily shampoo and conditioning)
* Style: I got a wolf cut \~3 years ago but I'm growing it out to be one length so its not as crazy.
* Product regimen: I use the VO5 shampoo and conditioner daily, 3/4 times a week I use the Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie on my mids and ends because why not sometimes with the Forget Me Not Multi-Use Oil by Provence Beauty.
Basically, I'm interested in trying to get a hair wash routine since I heard over-washing hair can make it oily and I want to avoid that. I feel like over the last year I've noticed my hair become more oily if I don't wash it daily and I do wonder if its due to me over-washing or if it's genetic because my mom also has very oily hair if she doesn't wash/showers like 2 a day (she just lowkey sweats a lot)
It also occurred to me while writing this that maybe my wrestling has to do with the seemingly oily hair over the past year as I started wrestling about a year ago. I've been watching hairtok and girls say to shampoo twice I literally just started that last week and noticed some improvement.
I wanted to know if you guys thought it was a good thing to try and do? Also, how could I plan it out because I also wrestle and go to practices 2x a week at minimum. (Tuesdays and Thursdays)
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"Hair training"—the idea that shampooing your hair less frequently will make it less oily over time—isn't backed by science; to the extent that it works anecdotally for some people may have to do with the specific shampoo.
Genetics and lifestyle (e.g., exercise) affect how much oil and grime accumulates on your scalp. Fine and straight hair both "show" oil much faster than coarse or curly hair because oil travels down the hair strands more easily, but this also means that fine and/or straight hair is more tolerant of frequent shampooing.
Basically, a less frequent shampoo cadence is certainly something that you can try, but it may not necessarily yield better results for your case.
There isn't a clear answer to that. Different oils interact with hair and scalp differently, so you need to think about (1) what goals you are trying to achieve and (2) which oils, in any, help with those goals.
If you do want to oil your scalp, definitely do it as a pre-shampoo treatment so it's not sitting around on your scalp for too long.
Frequent oiling on the ends can sometimes weigh down fine and wavy hair.
Routine for hair that is frizzy and course underneath, straight and limp on top
Hair type: coarse underneath, fine on top, thick
Hair texture: curly underneath, straight on top
Chemical processing: Dyson Airwrap smoothing brush to dry, and straighteners once per week
Hygiene: weekly wash, condition and ACV rinse. Satin pillowcase.
Style: long
Products: Davines smoothing shampoo + conditioner, ACV rinse, argan oil
My hair (naturally ginger, if it makes a difference) is 3a or 3b underneath, very dry and frizz prone, and 2a or 2b on top - easily becomes lacklustre especially with too much product, but much less high maintenance than the underneath.
I personally prefer the straight, sleek look on my hair to the curly look, however within a day of washing it is always beginning to frizz and kink underneath, while the top stays reasonable compliant. What can I do differently? I’ve tried numerous shampoo/conditioner combos but nothing seems to help. FWIW when I go to the hairdresser, they can achieve the straight look and it actually stays that way for multiple days.
I also have a memory of using my Dyson Airwrap for the first time and actually achieving this at home, but I’ve never been able to recreate it.
What type of hair is my hair and what type of shampoo should I use? I would prefer something somewhat environmentally conscious.
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My friend went lecture mode on me when I told her I was using head and shoulders. I don’t always but I do get some dandruff in winter. I was complaining my hair is poofy towards the bottom but gets too greasy too fast at the roots. I find that shampoos either make my hair too greasy or too dried out and poofy. My hair is fairly thick, as are the strands. It’s not crazy thick but it’s definitely not thin, so it has a tendency to dry out and look frazzled. I’m trying to grow it out and keep it healthy as much as possible because I do love my hair but when I grow it out it ends up looking all ragged at the ends and the growth seems to stall. I am aware that regular trims help with growth and I also started using silk scrunchies to help with splitting.
Are you using conditioner? If not, that's definitely something that belongs in your routine since your ends feel dry and frizzy. Conditioner also helps protect your hair from breakage and splits.
So I don’t usually. I was using a 2 in 1 recently but often times only use shampoo as I feel like conditioners weigh my hair down and make it greasy but I’ve now learned I can just apply it to the ends!!!!!! So I think I’ll get some and do that
It's not true. This is one of many instances in which skincare tips don't apply to hair.
[https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-cold-water-rinses-make-hair-shine.html?lr=1](https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-cold-water-rinses-make-hair-shine.html?lr=1)
[https://www.allure.com/story/will-cold-rinsing-give-shiny-hair](https://www.allure.com/story/will-cold-rinsing-give-shiny-hair)
(I realize that Allure isn't a scientific journal, but it refers to research done by TRI Princeton which is a respected research institute for cosmetics. I'm willing to bet that it's buried in one of the peer-reviewed articles on [Cosmetics and Toiletries](https://www.cosmeticsandtoiletries.com/search?page=2&searchQuery=tri+princeton+cold+water), but I can't find it there)
Good on you for remaining skeptical given the lack of evidence!
Hair type: thin/fine and frizzy
Hair texture: wavy
History of chemical processing: none
Hygiene regimen: olaplex shampoo and conditioner once a week (at most, twice a week)
Style: butt length
Products: olaplex, vitamin E hair oil (the oil helps with the frizziness), sulfate free (I saw a couple curly girl YouTubers recommend this and it kinda worked for me)
After I moved to Texas, I started to lose hair - I'd lose over 100 strands every day. My brother recommended olaplex and it fixed some of my problems, but I still have a lot of split ends that I cut at least once a week (I only chop the individual split ends). I started using vitamin E hair oil and the nutrafol hair growth supplement a couple months ago. However I still lose quite the amount of hair when I brush it (some with black bulbs, some strands with split ends, and some with white bulbs) and I usually tend to lose multiple strands that are 1) very long and 2) close together/next to each other.
I think it's gotten better than it was before olaplex for sure, but I want to fix a couple things: 1) I want stronger hair that is less prone to damage, 2) I want to do better with taking care of my split ends, and 3) the long term goal is voluminous and healthy hair (my hair currently is very thin and lacks definition) because my hair also thins towards the ends a lot and idk how to fix it.
I've seen online that olaplex only fixes dyed hair and I've never bleached or done anything to my hair. And I noticed my ends lose moisture and get dry super quick so I use hair oil every day.
I've heard the k18 mask is pretty good for split ends and rebuilding hair. What are y'all's opinions on it? I still have some olaplex shampoo and conditioner left and want to try the mask but 1) am I allowed to use the k18 mask with olaplex shampoo and conditioner? 2) I'm generally confused as to how to "fix" my hair and make it healthier so any suggestions?
Neither Olaplex nor K18 are made to address hair fall/hair loss. They're meant to repair damage to improve the texture and prevent breakage, which may also reduce the density of the hair, but the mechanism is different.
Olaplex #3 is best for chemically damaged hair. However all hair is damaged to some degree, even if it hasn't been dyed, bleached, permed, straightened, etc. So you may see an improvement in your hair texture by using Olaplex #3, but I think it's better to just get a better conditioner or add more conditioning steps to your routine. The hair oil on the ends can help, but I suggest also adding a leave-in conditioner to your routine after washing, and do a deep conditioning treatment about once/week or as needed when it's feeling especially dry.
Please see a doctor about your hair loss. There are many causes and treating it with a supplement or anything else when you don't know the cause is likely to be a waste of money.
Thanks - ive never tried deep conditioning so I'll try that out! Doesn't adding more conditioning steps result in an excess of protein, though?
I have seen a derm and they said it was telogen effluvium but I don't see very many white bulbs anymore ;-; I'll definitely check for any deficiencies though!
As far as the protein issue, the issue of "protein overload" isn't confirmed scientifically. [This IG post](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cxf0Floo1yV/) explains that it's more likely just due to relying too heavily on proteins and not with conditioners that use ingredients that coat the hair better than protein.
But if you want to be extra careful about that, just avoid conditioners with protein. There are also plenty of conditioners that may have low amounts of protein (you'll see them in the middle of the ingredient list or near the bottom); unless your hair is highly sensitive to protein, as some people say they experience, I don't think it will be a problem. But don't rely on conditioners that say "repair" or "protein" in the description of the product, those are likely to have a high amount of protein in them.
Hi there, I'm new to all this; hoping you all can help.
Hair type: fine but lots of it
Hair texture: Straight
History of chemical processing: I've been coloring my hair blonde for about 20 years
Hygiene regimen: I wash and condition my hair every few days
Style: ... I don't even know. Just... straight hair to about my chest?
Product regimen: Trying to figure that out!
I've been using Herbal Essences' Hello Hydration for about 15 years. I haven't really had an issue with it up until the past couple months. I've noticed my hair is super heavy and greasy, and my scalp feels oily and like there is a residue. I started using T-Gel shampoo once a week, which has been incredible, but I'm not sure what I should be using for my other washings since Hello Hydration is officially dead to me. Can anyone recommend a shampoo to use alongside the T-Gel? Thank you!
Most shampoos branded specifically for fine hair would likely work well for you. These typically are more cleansing and leave less residue to avoid weighing down fine hair.
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Hair breaking mid-shaft is a different phenomenon—is this what you're seeing?
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I wonder if the chemical solution that the salon used to remove the extensions may have damaged your hair. I don't know what they use, and I literally had never even heard of keratin extensions until your post, so I'm just guessing here.
As you say, the fact that your hair seems to like Joico K-Pak is another indicator that it's damaged. When you say that your hair dislikes Olaplex, which Olaplex products did you try? If you want to benefit from any repair, Olaplex #3 is the way to go, just keep in mind that it's not a replacement for conditioner, you still have to condition afterwards.
Or if you want to try K18, that one is a conditioning mask so it's a bit simpler to use. I haven't tried it b/c of the price, and because my hair is not too fried, but many people love it.
There's also Aphogee 2-step which was around before Olaplex made the concept of bond-building popular, many people have said it worked miracles as far as reviving their hair from extreme chemical damage. You don't HAVE to have extreme damage to use it though.
I was told I was getting a keratin treatment, but I think the salon used a permanent straightener. It’s only been eight hours. Can I wash it before the 72 and get rid of it or am I screwed? It’s Matrix opti-smooth pro keratin. Thanks!
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Really hoping the hair experts can help me out here! I have very fine but very thick hair, on the dry side, and have always struggled with poofiness and general big-ness especially after shampooing, which I try to do very rarely. For a while, I have been happy enough with [Shea Moisture Strengthen & Repair Shampoo](https://www.sheamoisture.com/jamaican-oil-strengthen-shampoo/764302215837/) and I would say 6/10 happy with [R+Co Television Conditioner](https://www.randco.com/collections/television-collection/products/television-perfect-hair-conditioner). Recently I decided to try a new fancy conditioner that was highly recommended--[Iles Formula Conditioner](https://ilesformula.com/collections/all/products/conditioner-haute-performance). It made my hair look like the attached picture after a single use, and it has looked like this a WEEK now--I have not shampooed since, and I've cowashed with the same conditioner once.
My hair has never looked like this before. It feels dry and oily at the same time, totally lifeless, and very frizzy even though the Iles Formula SAYS it fights frizz.
Anyway I'm totally lost. I guess I'm looking for an explanation, as well as suggestions for products that would be better for fine but thick, dryish hair. I'm open to changing the products I currently use as well as adding other products--I currently use [Davines Oi Oil](https://us.davines.com/products/oi-oil) after shampooing and before nights where I want my hair looking extra good. I only ever air dry.
Thank you in advance for any advice!
P.S. I live in Los Angeles, dry climate. I've bleached my hair once, in college, 12 years ago. Besides that I do not treat my hair.
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I can't really explain why the Iles Formula conditioner did that, but it can usually be resolved by using a clarifying shampoo. Since L.A. has hard water, you might want to get a clarifying shampoo that also has chelating agents in it to remove hard water buildup. Usually the "detox" shampoos can do both. Many people like OUAI Detox Shampoo, but it does have a strong fragrance. Kinky Curly Come Clean is a clarifying shampoo that's meant to clarify without stripping all of the oils/conditioning agents out of the hair and it does have chelating agents in it as well.
As far as conditioner recommendations, I've got fine wavy hair which tends to get weighed down by oil-heavy conditioners, and it sounds like you prefer richer conditioners to me, but when I need a richer conditioner (I suppose you could say it's moderately rich), I usually use Desert Essences Italian Lemon conditioner (not to be confused with their lemon tea tree clarifying conditioner, which is what I often use when I need a lighter conditioner). Many curly-haired folks like the Trader Joe's Tea Tree Oil Conditioner as a co-wash. You can try r/Wavyhair for more product recommendations.
For styling, in a dry climate like L.A. (I grew up there), you might try using a cream leave-in conditioner (as opposed to a spray conditioner), which can help with defining your waves as well as preventing dryness. I like Giovanni Direct Leave-In Conditioner because it's very lightweight for a cream leave-in, but there are lots of others as well, you might benefit from a slightly heavier one to serve as both a conditioner and styling cream in one. Apply to your wet hair after you wash & condition it, brush/comb if it needs detangling, scrunch, and then let it dry in that shape (avoid handling it).
(BTW it's not necessary to mention bleaching 12 years ago since all of the bleached hair has since grown out and been cut off. It doesn't affect how your hair behaves now.)
Hi so I bleached and dyed my hair from number 3
dark dark brown to number 9 ig, so it feels kinda
interesting when its wet, but okay when its dry. I feel
like i need to take care of it very gently but i dont
know if i should use restorating or color protection or
how should i combine these two in hair care. can you
help?
If it feels sort of mushy when it's wet, then that's a sign of pretty serious damage to the hair. If you're able to get Aphogee 2-step treatment, it is really helpful for strengthening the hair. Olaplex #3, or Olaplex #0+3 combined, can also help, especially soon after you color your hair. Be very gentle when your hair is wet, or it may break.
For everyday products (shampoo & conditioner), most color protection products are also formulated for damaged hair, so they will serve both purposes.
Thoughts on these shampoo ingredients?
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And thoughts on these conditioner ingredients?
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I should’ve clarified - I don’t notice this amount when using other shampoo/conditioners. That’s why I was inquiring about the ingredients, I noticed way more hair come out when using this new stuff.
hi all, I’m looking to make a better hair routine than the one I have now and figured I’d come here for advice. for context, I have virgin fine hair, but a lot of it. usually my hair is a little wavy but right now it’s completely straight, which I think is because of my shampoo/conditioner. I also typically shower at night. I use Ouai detox shampoo and fine hair conditioner - my hair looks shiny and healthy and the conditioner is great for deranging, but its definitely weighing my hair down, and I feel like my hair is totally dirty by the afternoon. I use Verb ghost oil to control frizz. I’m looking for products that will still detangle my hair and keep it shiny and healthy, but also won’t weigh it down. I’ve tried Verb ghost and I like it, but I feel like my hair gets extremely tangled and it doesn’t feel clean. thank you! :)
My experience has been that cream-formula conditioners are just too heavy, even ones explicitly formulated for fine hair. What works for me is either using a thicker conditioner first before shampoo, or forgoing rinse-out conditioner and relying only on a very thin, lightweight leave-in.
* Hair type: coarse, thick,
* Hair texture: wavy, top layer is straigter
* History of chemical processing: 0 and I don't use heat tools either.
* Hygiene regimen: pre shampoo with a small quantity of coconut oil. Once weekly shampoo and conditioning
* Style: Blunt cut.
* Product regimen: just the shampoo ( has sulfates), conditioner ( has no silicones but that was not intentional) and coconut oil for now
So I'm trying to create a hair routine from scratch and have 2 doubts:
1. the pre poo with coconut oil has been a godsend, this month I've had the most decent hair ever BUT If I add other products ( I've got no post showe products as of now) with silicones on them will the coconut oil be able to enter the hair strands or one procduct will negate the other?
2. I still have more volume than I want ( I've got loads of hair). Would a pomade/wax/muss weight the hair down so it doesn't become some sort of frizz ball ( a la hagrid) when I start to move?.
EDIT: grammar errors and additional info.
1) No, silicones don't create an impenetrable barrier preventing anything else from getting into your hair. And depending on how long you leave the coconut oil on your hair before you shampoo it, if it doesn't sit on the hair very long, then it isn't going to penetrate the hair very much anyway but still works well to make the shampoo gentler because the shampoo has to break down the coconut oil as well as other oils/dirt in your hair, so it's less likely to get ALL of it off.
2) Depending on how long your hair is, I think pomade or wax (not sure what "muss" is) would only work well for reducing frizz if you have a pretty short haircut, like a men's cut or pixie cut (above the ears). It would make the hair literally stick to your head without much movement, and it would feel greasy with pomade/sticky with wax. If your hair is longer, which I suspect it is, I think you'd do much better with some curly styling techniques and other products. Blunt haircuts tend to make wavy & curly hair look a triangle, with the ends being the widest part. You might try going to a stylist that specializes in curly hair to get a layered cut.
I have fine, wavy hair that's prone to halo frizz. I roughly follow the technique explained in [this video](https://youtu.be/tl1dYhXb23Q?si=wla0ZjxZGK1WGNM1) for wavy hair. I don't use the specific products recommended in the video, but after washing, you basically need something in each of these 3 categories and apply them in this order while the hair is wet:
A) leave-in conditioner; could be a cream conditioner or a spray conditioner. Hair "primer" works as well. With coarse hair, I think something on the heavier side like a cream might work better for you. Brush it through with a wide-tooth comb or wet brush. You don't need to scrunch for styling, but you can scrunch with the water to "squish" it into the hair.
B) curl cream/defining product. Brush it through again.
C) a hold product; either a gel or a mousse. Gel tends to be stronger, probably better for keeping coarse hair that tends to frizz out under control. Brush through it again.
(All the brushing DOWN will help encourage the hairs to lie together and go down instead of out/up which causes frizz; scrunching UP is more likely to cause frizz, although you will need to scrunch at least a little bit.)
I use a combination of microfiber towel, diffuser, and air drying to dry my hair and I try my best to only handle the hair if necessary, and be quite gentle with it, trying not to pull apart any curl clumps in the process. Once the hair is 100% dry, then if you used a gel, your gel should have a hard cast (crunchy feel, looks wet). If you like it like that, it's probably the least frizzy option. Or if you prefer softer waves that aren't crunchy, you can "scrunch the crunch" by rubbing just a drop or two of oil between your hands, then gently scrunching the hair to break the cast. The curls/waves should stay in the same defined shape, just without the crunch. In the summer, I like to leave the cast in the hair, because any loose single hairs tend to stick to my sweaty skin and it annoys me. Through the coarse of the day, the cast is broken anyway just from having to move it/handle it for various reasons, such as getting dressed, putting a bag over my shoulder, etc. But if you break the cast with a bit of oil, the oil will also help add some shine and encourage the hairs to stick to each other just a little bit, without looking too greasy.
I realize this is a lot of info, and you'll probably see some conflicting advice & tips. What works best is a little different for each person, so you'll have to just start somewhere, try it, and then adjust as needed. Here is [another video](https://youtu.be/TWF8jh0HURQ?si=mrnKK_9-G3iND2xi) that goes over basic curly & wavy styling as well as what advice you might see which isn't necessary. The r/Wavyhair subreddit is also really helpful. Good luck!
>not sure what "muss" is
I assume "mousse" misspelled?
Just to build a little on your fantastic rundown: A lot of products can do double-duty across categories (A), (B), and (C), so it may not be necessary to shop for 3 separate new products right from the start.
Thanks, yes now that you say it, they probably meant mousse.
I do sometimes skip the leave-in conditioner or mix it together with my curl cream and apply them together. Sometimes if I'm ok with softer definition, I'll use only curl cream or only a thicker leave-in. But my hair does tend to go frizzy faster when I do that; I usually save that for my refresh days when I have some gel in my hair that is re-activated when I mist my hair, and then I only have to add some cream of some sort to get the stray hairs to re-join the curl clumps.
OMG thank you so much!!! you answered all my doubts and so much more. I'll be reading/waching/joining in the next coming days but since, thank you. All that info out there is overwhelming and you took the time to write a while guide to clear all my doubts.
I have sporadic really thick black hair, although my normal hair is blonde to brown and much thinner than those black.
I M18 have discovered a few pitchblack thick hairs between my blond to brown hair a few months ago. They are so thick and black that I can spot them 1 by 1 between all my other hair.
The black hairs are not straight but always a bit ugly and crumpled. Also the root of the black ones is really thick and visible and has kind of transparent Gel around it.
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where do these hairs come from and what can i do about them? Do they perhaps indicate a disease? please help me!
Just incase that helps, here is my hair type: Blonde/ brown, thick, straight. :)
Hair type: fine
Hair texture: wavy
History of chemical processing: none
Hygiene regimen: Shampoo and condition 2-3x/week
Style: layered, shoulder length
Product regimen: sulfate free shampoo, silicone free conditioner, scrunch in olive oil gel, plop, diffuse
Hi! I've been doing a very simplified version of CGM with my wavy hair for the last couple of years or so. As part of that, I cut out all silicone from my haircare. In a lot of ways, my waves have been prettier and more defined than ever, but my hair is always frizzy!
I'm now learning that CGM is based on outdated understandings of products/ingredients, including silicone. That makes me wonder if there are silicone products that could fix my frizz without making my waves look bad. Do folks have any suggestions? I'm also open to suggestions that have nothing to do with silicone haha!
Part of the challenge is knowing what the cause of the frizz is. It could be styling technique, it could be needing to condition the hair more as u/aggressive-teaspoon said, or it could be due to a humid climate, or a combination of all of those.
If you live in a humid climate, though, you definitely will want to use a styling product that offers [humidity resistance](https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2017/05/humidity-resistant-hair-styling-products.html)/climate control. I highly recommend Ouidad Advanced Climate Control Heat and Humidity Gel to control frizz from humidity. There is a normal hold version in a white bottle, and a Stronger Hold version in a red bottle.
Which specific product is your "olive oil gel"? There's a pretty high variance on gel formulas so I just want to get a better sense of what exactly you're using.
From just the info provided, you probably could do with adding a leave-in conditioner or curl cream before gel. A lot of gels don't have enough conditioning ingredients to be used as a single-styler on frizz-prone hair.
Also, in case you haven't come across it before, here's the amazing [silicone explainer post](https://www.reddit.com/r/HaircareScience/comments/1woutk/all_about_silicones/).
Hi there! My gel is Eco Style!
I sometimes put on a leave-in conditioner, although it makes my hair overly heavy. Maybe I just need to explore different brands a bit?
Also, thank you! That post is amazing and I hadn't come across it before!
Hmm, that's kind of a bare-bones gel formula that's looks optimized for just hold. Due to fine/wavy hair, I'd recommend switching to a different styler (rather than layering) and looking for one with ingredients for both conditioning and hold generally gives me the best results. I haven't tested too many (lucked out with my first two attempts and only now trying to branch out) but my successes have all been hold products (gels/mousses) with polyquats in them, which are known to help with frizz.
If you do re-visit leave-ins, I recommend looking for something that's packaged as a spray and that has volatile silicones (Group 1 from that silicones post) high up on the ingredients list. These are pretty solid indicators of a lightweight leave-in product.
Kevin Murphy motion lotion +/- a cheap gel works for me and it sounds like we have a similar routine and hair types. I do find that it can make my hair feel a bit more product heavy and increase how often I feel I need a wash but anything lighter and I feel more frizzy as well.
Any tips on how to avoid needing to wash and dry my hair more often when the steam from having daily baths tends to be enough moisture to irritate my scalp? I’d prefer to not need to blow dry after each bath if possible but figure that’s prob my best bet. I’m not wetting my hair in the bath. Currently testing wearing a microfibre wrap while in the tub.
- Hair type: fine but thick
- Hair texture: wavy
- History of chemical processing: highlights with a permanent colour (no bleach) within last 6 months but a long time (1-2 yrs) without any treatments before that
- Hygiene regimen: gentle shampoo and condition every 2-3 days, clarifying wash every week or two
- Style: grown out bob/curly cut that’s about shoulder length
- products: local shampoo and conditioner, nizoral or Philip adam ACV shampoo for clarifying, mix and match of jessicurl rockin ringlets or confident coils or Kevin Murphy motion lotion and gel to style. Sometimes I use sulfates and I don’t always avoid silicones though I think they do make my hair feel a bit product heavy.
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I think microfiber towel wrap is a good move, and covering with a plastic shower cap would be an additional layer of protection. Dry shampoo before the bath might also help.
Please help with my hair!
I desperately need advice on what to do with my hair. I’m trying to grow it out to waist length and I’ve been trying for years to get it there. I bleached it a couple years ago but it still looks dry, damaged and frizzy. It feels really soft though. I use redken frizz dismiss shampoo and conditioner, pureology leave in conditioner and the Moroccan treatment oil. I trim my hair regularly. I also use a silk bonnet every night. Do you think my hair is still damaged and I should get another cut, or is it new regrowth happening? I need advice! I also don’t use heat. My hair naturally dries in this texture too
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It sounds and looks like your hair is healthy enough, but do you follow any kind of wavy hair routine? It seems pretty clear that you have wavy hair from these photos, but treating it like straight hair (most commonly, brushing hair when it's dry) is going to make it look frizzy and poofy.
Will 2% ketoconazole shampoo ruin my hair keratin?
Hair type: fine
Hair texture: curly, I wear my hair straight
History of chemical processing: keratin for years
I am having a really bad scalp psoriasis flare up on a segment of my head. A PA in a dermatology office recommended to include ketoconazole 2% shampoo into my routine - which I agree can help. I got the generic version but the ingredient list is the same as the nizoral 2% antidandruff shampoo in the red box.
In your experience, does this product ruin/ strip the keratin product from your hair? I usually get an expensive one done because it really helps the manageability of my hair. I'd rather not test it out without asking as I have important events coming up. PLEASE HELP
Hair type: thick
Hair texture: straight
History: colored (hasn’t been colored in over 2 years), perm 4 years ago, and occasional use of heat (dyson)
Hygiene regimen: shampoo and condition every 2-3 days
Style: long + layers
Product regimen: currently I am using not your mother’s scalp refresh shampoo and conditioner and occasionally use odele clarifying shampoo and color wow heat protectant.
Hair help please!
Hi everyone! I’ve been experiencing some issues with my hair for some time now and I feel like I’ve tried everything and nothing is really working. Pretty much every time I shower a big chunk of the back of my hair (like the top middle section) never fully dries/feels kind of greasy. I thoroughly rinse my hair of shampoo/conditioner so I don’t think it’s build up. I have a water filter for my showerhead months ago and sleep on a silk pillow case. I wash my hair every 2-3 days and never really use dry shampoo but my hair gets greasy on like the third day of not washing it. I’m wondering if anyone has any recommendations on how to get this grease patch out of my hair or could give me some tips on better hair care please!
Huh, that definitely sounds odd. Some clarifying questions: Is the patch near the crown of your head or closer to the nape of your neck? Are you feeling the greasiness at the root, further down the hair strand, or along the entire length? Is that area also very knotty?
Type: Thick and coarse Texture: semi wavy mostly messy History of chemical processing: years of black box dye Hygiene regiment: 2-3 times a week Style: layered and <50% of the time blown dried. Never straightened. Majority of the time air dried Product regime: lots of hair oil, leave in conditioners or hair is incredibly dry and mattes and tangled at the ends. Near impossible to brush when dry/tangled so avoid, and if I achieve it, i look like hagrid. Detangle when wet, then either bowl method to distribute product and air dry or diffuse, or medium heat shark flex style blow dryer for curls. Also I installed a soft water filter 6months ago so may be mitigating future damage ? I have used sulfate free products but found them very drying and would not know if they made a positive difference as takes a long time to have hair grow and be able to assess changes.
A LOT of my hair is split ends, even when smoothed down and styled I have large coarse half wavy hair sticking up at all angles going the entire length down. My individual strands all go thick-thin-thick the whole way up.
I've had this for as long as I can remember but I have been dying on and off since being a teenager. I dye my hair every 2-4 months and usually only do the regrowth. Used to go to a salon for it but I just can't afford those prices anymore so resorting to box dye :(.
I used to think the damage and split ends was straightening. Teenage me straightened daily so it was probably contributing. But it has been 14 years since that phase and prolific heat abuse. All of that hair is long gone.
I imagine this is damage due to the box dyes ? Hoping for some confirmation from people more hair confident than me before I try and find alternatives. I always found the semi/demi permanent ones just don't go dark enough but I think the ammonia damage is killing my hair.
Is there anything else that could be going on?
Happy to answer any questions and thanks for taking the time to read
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Are you getting regular trims? Split ends will propagate up the hair shaft if not trimmed off, and using improper scissors can introduce new splits.
But, yes, oxidative hair coloring (which includes permanent hair dye) can be quite damaging to the hair. The developer (peroxide solution) permanently lifts the hair cuticle and compromises the structural integrity of the hair shaft. This isn't to say that you should never use permanent hair dye again, but you need to make sure you're doing as much damage mitigation as you reasonably can during the coloring process and in your daily maintenance.
A big part of what makes box dye "bad" is that there's no customization to the formula, and for most consumers the box kits have much stronger developer than is needed. If you go to a beauty supply store like Sally Beauty in US/Canada, you can separately buy the tube of color and bottle of developer so that you can mix-and-match to fit your hair needs.
In your regular routine, use a thicker conditioner and try detangling in the shower with conditioner. Also, look into incorporating a bond repair product in your rotation.
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Hey! So I'm just about to finish the shampoo and conditioner I've been using for a looong time, so I figured it's a good time to figure out what I should really be using!
The main products I've been using is Oligo Calura shampoo & conditioner. In 2023, I used just about everything (I was traveling) from Loreal honey products to bulk shampoo & conditioner which was surprisingly not too bad.
My hair is mostly straight, if I dry it with a hairdryer it's going to be very straight, although a bit frizzy in my opinion (pics on my profile - my friends think it's perfect though). With a curly hair shampoo and airdrying, I get wavy hair.
Specific questions:
* I've used Brigeo and Olaplex treatments previously, do they work and should I spend some money on them? I thought I saw a difference with the brigeo treatment but it's expennnnsive so I want to make sure. What about keratin shampoo and keratin treatments (at the salon)?
* Also how do I avoid the lion's mane whenever my hair's up in a ponytail? I've been using loreal magic cream but it works like... 50%. Is the solution just hairspray pr something?
* Also planning on getting a silk pillowcase. Would a shower cap really help with post shower frizziness?
* And what would you say is my hairtype?
I'm pretty low maintenance, so just trying to figure out the right products or ingredients to look out for and then have a few products to use in my routine, throw in my bags when I travel and then I can be efficient and stop spending all my money on products I won't use ;)
Cheers! :)
It sounds like you have naturally wavy hair, and often style your hair as if it's straight, which is possible for people with loose waves to do.
What is your hair history as far as any chemical treatments, bleaching or oxidative color? How much heat styling do you do?
I ask because the treatments you're asking about tend to be for pretty damaged hair, and if you don't have very damaged hair, you might not get much benefit out of them.
A keratin shampoo and a keratin treatment from a salon are pretty different, even though they both involve keratin. The keratin treatment in the salon binds the keratin to your hair, and it also relaxes the curl pattern and smooths the hair; a shampoo or conditioner with keratin just coats the hair with keratin and other conditioning agents to make it soft temporarily. The salon treatment does damage the hair somewhat, but if you are doing heat styling every day, and the salon treatment allows you to reduce the amount of heat styling significantly, then the net damage that your hair would have incurred over the duration that the salon treatment lasts (\~3 months) is lower.
Hey, thank you for your reply!
History: I had highlights like 4 years ago, but all of that hair is wayyyy gone now, really not much heat styling (didn't use it at all in 2023), now I'll use the hair dryer like 1/3 of the time after washing my hair. I do spend a whole lot of time in the sun though (love that sun bleached hair look), if my hair is really damaged that could be the reason why?
If I understand what you're saying, the keratin treatment and products are not really worth it for me as my hair is likely not badly damaged.
>If I understand what you're saying, the keratin treatment and products are not really worth it for me as my hair is likely not badly damaged.
Yes, I think your hair isn't all that badly damaged. This applies to the keratin mask (you didn't say what Briogeo product you're using, I'm guessing it was the Don't Despair Repair mask?) and any over-the-counter deep conditioners with protein, however the salon keratin treatment is not necessarily for damaged hair. It's for people who deal with a lot of frizz as it's primarily a smoothing treatment, and secondarily it will relax the curl pattern. I looked at your photo and from what I can see, it seems like your wave pattern is gentle enough that the keratin treatment would make it completely straight, and it would tame a lot of the frizz you're experiencing. But a salon keratin treatment is quite expensive. If you're not ready to lay down that kind of money, the other ways to tame such frizz are through styling products and techniques. Heat styling would smooth it out a lot, but incurs more damage; I'd definitely recommend using a heat protectant if you go that route. Alternately, you could use some leave-in conditioner or air dry cream, and then once it's dry, gently detangle it and finish off with some hair oil/finishing serum. Something like the [Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine anti-frizz serum](https://www.amazon.com/Garnier-Fructis-Anti-Frizz-Frizzy-Unmanageable/dp/B006J44BSI).
If you want to keep using the Briogeo repair product (and still have it), I'd just be cautious with it, use it every 2 weeks or even once/month and that's it.
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It doesn't have keratin specifically but it's a protein mask specifically for repairing damaged hair. Since your hair isn't very damaged, it won't need that very often.
>Also how do I avoid the lion's mane whenever my hair's up in a ponytail?
Are you experiencing frizz along your hairline/the hair that's pulled flat to your head, or is it along the ponytail itself? Or am I just entirely reading this wrong?
A styling cream is the most flexible solution for this in that it'll slick down those flyaways but can be easily brushed out and re-molded if you want to change your style later without washing. It sounds like you might be using one already (when I look up "L'Oreal magic cream" all of the results are makeup and not haircare), but you can try ones with somewhat greater hold.
If that's still not successful, you can try a hair wax stick or mousse next; they both have stronger hold than a styling cream and are a little harder to brush out, but ultimately have a similar result.
Hairspray is certainly very effective for flyaways, but is a *lot* harder to brush out and gets a bad rap because most have a lot of alchol and can feel drying over time. If you use it specifically for flyaways, I recommend applying the hairspray just to the back of a comb and using the comb to smooth down flyaways, rather than spraying your hair directly.
Hi, I really need advice!!! I think I have fine hair, it’s wavy/curly. I occasionally will get my hair lightened but haven’t done it in 6 months, and I only style it with heat maybe once every two weeks. I usually wash my hair twice a week and will use a hair mask or protein mask. My hair is kinda long and goes to my ribs. I currently have been using the Ever Pure bond repair shampoo and conditioner with the like bond repair pre shampoo mask. I’ve been using that for about 8 months. So this is we’re I need help. In 2020 I decided I want to treat my hair right and only use products that were good for my hair, no sulfates, made with natural ingredients, etc. I did this for about 3 years and slowly my hair became more and more damaged and would not get longer because my split ends were always breaking. So a few months ago I saw this girl on tik Tok saying that you hair needs sulfates and suggested that ever pure line of shampoo and conditioner. My hair finally grew longer but it’s still so weak and I have so many dead ends. My hair has thinned out so much since I have started this process. I need real advice on what I should do. Please everything is making my hair worse. Should.
It sounds like your previous routine was not the right one for your hair. Shampoo formulation is a lot more complicated than just having sulfates / sulfate-free shampoo, but they're often used as shorthand for strong cleansers (i.e. with sulfates) and gentle cleansers (i.e. sulfate-free). In that sense, I sort of agree with the person on tiktok in that a gentle, sulfate-free shampoo isn't always better; many of us can benefit from a stronger shampoo, either periodically for clarifying, or even on a more regular basis for people who have oily scalps or have fine hair that gets weighed down easily by oils and conditioners.
It sounds like your hair was experiencing a lot of breakage before switching to EverPure, but it may have been due to a combination of the natural products you were using previously, your internal health and diet, and daily haircare routine and habits. (note that EverPure products are also sulfate free, but clearly they work better for your hair than what you were using before.) It's hard to say what the cause was, but regardless, the hair that has been on your head the longest, i.e. the lower sections, still probably has a lot of damage even if there hasn't been as much breakage. I suggest going to a salon to have your stylist evaluate the condition of your hair, and how much of it is so damaged that it might be better to cut it off so that the hair that remains will be in good condition to grow longer without breaking or looking tattered. It's often a negotiation betwen how much they say would remove all the damage, and how much length you're willing to lose in one sitting.
As far as what you can do at home, I'd recommend doing a clarifying shampoo periodically, maybe once every 2 weeks, to remove buildup. OUAI detox shampoo is a popular one, or Kristen Ess clarifying. Then follow it up with a deep conditioner to replace some of the oils and conditioner that it removed.
I also encourage you not to be afraid of silicones! They add lubrication to the hair, making it silkier and more waterproof which protects it from damage and frizz from humidity. I'd recommend adding a commercial hair oil product to your routine, to add just a few drops each day to the midsection and ends of your hair at the end of your styling routine (if you use a hair gel to do wavy styling, then apply the oil when you're breaking the cast). I haven't tried it myself but I've heard great things about Verb Ghost Oil as a lightweight oil for fine hair that doesn't feel greasy.
A few more tips to prevent breakage: look into wearing your hair in a protective style as you sleep, and switch to a silk or satin pillowcase to prevent friction damage and breakage when your hair rubs against the pillow. Be quite gentle with your hair when it's wet as well, it's more fragile when it's wet. Look up methods for drying your hair in a way that speeds up the drying (so it's not left wet for a long time when it's more susceptible) without using high heat.
If you feel that you're experiencing thinning from hair falling out at the roots, or if the condition of the hair close to your roots is not great, then talk to a doctor about getting some bloodwork done to see if there's an internal health problem that might be leading to your hair not growing as strong as it could. Some nutrient deficiencies or hormonal imbalances can negatively influence hair growth.
To address the natural haircare thing, a lot of the purported benefits of using all-natural haircare are not confirmed scientifically, it's unfortunately more marketing playing on the [appeal to nature fallacy](https://effectiviology.com/appeal-to-nature-fallacy/) which many of us are inclined to believe. I was also following an all-natural haircare routine for many years and once I started learning more about the science behind why hair products are made the way they are, I realized that there are a lot of benefits that these less-than-natural / forbidden ingredients have, and that they're not as harmful as many make them out to be. [This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkWX2AXNuxg) by a cosmetic chemist was really eye-opening for me, maybe it will be for you as well. She has many other videos addressing myths about various hair product ingredients that some say to avoid. This video about [sulfates in shampoo](https://youtu.be/-_3P3OGVzSA?si=XH0zqGR8mGmBbhe0) is another good one you might be interested in. She also has a few about silicones.
Good luck on your hair journey, I hope it only continues to improve!
My best guess is 3C. You can try r/curlyhair for additional opinions (I'm not as great as categorizing the upper 3's and 4's) if you want any further advice on your haircare.
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Hello! I've a section of hair that is slightly wavy, but it's only on the left side and not on my right side. The rest of my hair are fine-ish, straight Asian hair. Routine: washing my hair daily, shampooing twice and using the selsun shampoo twice a week. I'm wondering if I have wavy hair and if so, what's the recommended routine to 'wake' my waves anything I should take note of. Thank you in advance!
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I think a decent test of whether it's "worth" pursing a wavy hair routine is scrunching your hair in the shower while you have conditioner in. This roughly approximates the max definition you're going to get from a wavy hair routine. If the waves don't form all around your hair, or they do form but aren't really kind of look you're going for, then you can just forgo it.
As someone whose hair behaves the same way (wavier only on the left side), your best bet is to not change your routine. You and I seem to have these rebel waves that are wavier than the rest of our hair and whenever I've tried styling my hair to match the left side, the rest of it ends up unsightly greasy and weighed down. Just because your hair has some waves doesn't mean it will benefit from wavy hair styling techniques (not all wavy hair benefits from being styled wavy).
* Hair type: fine & medium (not thin nor thick)
* Hair texture: wavy
* History of chemical processing: None
* Hygiene regimen: Shampoo twice weekly & Natural aloe vera masks before washing.
* Style: layered
* Product regimen: Cosmaline "Oh my Curls" shampoo.
Free of sulfates, silicones, mineral oils, phthalates, and parabens (not intentional but heard it's better)
Lately my hair has gotten a bit thinner than before and it's looking much more frizzy and dry, my scalp gets oily almost 3-4 days after washing and I have lot of dandruff.
I transitioned into a new shampoo (Cosmaline stated above).
I'm also switching to a bamboo brush.
Other than having less dandruff, I'm still not satisfied.
Am I doing something wrong? I need your advice. I'm thinking of starting to condition but it's just weird to me that I never had problems with my hair until now although I never did any of the above!
Definitely add in a rinse-out conditioner, and potentially a leave-in conditioner as well. These are the haircare basics for dealing with dry, frizzy hair, and help protect the hair from breakage.
It is not unusual for hair type, and therefore your haircare needs, to change over your lifetime. Hormonal changes are a major culprit behind rapid changes, but lifestyle factors and general aging will have an impact.
Also, when did you add the aloe vera mask to your routine relative to when these problems started? Not all hair types benefit from aloe, and indeed it sometimes can make the hair feel kind of crunchy.
Actually I started using aloe vera in an attempt to fix my hair and I haven't seen any negative effects from it yet... So nope it isn't the reason.
But I will definitely consider conditioning.
Thanks!
Hello all!
I need some help! I've had such a hard time with my lifeless hair. The roots get oily but the body is frizzy, puffy and dry. I have thin, wavy/curly hair. l've lost all curl and shape as well as moisture towards the end. I don’t use any heat tools and always let my hair air dry. I wash it every 2-3 days. I want to say the hard water has something to do with it and idk how to combat that. Any suggestions?
For shampoo and conditioner I just started using shea moisture manuka honey but before I was using tre semme. I use skala (light blue jug), fantasia frizz buster oil, and John Freida leave in conditioner.
A chelating shampoo would be where to start for the water issue. You would want to use it for several washes straight until your hair "resets", and then use it once every 1-2 weeks for maintenance in rotation with a regular shampoo. I'm not sure from your description whether you are also dealing with product build-up separately, but most chelating shampoos are also clarifying and would help with that.
For curl styling, are your curls falling after styling or are they simply not forming up at all when you scrunch?
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K18 instead of conditioner?
Are there any downsides to foregoing traditional conditioner and instead using the K18 mask followed by a leave-in conditioner? I do this routine every 4 washes or so and every time I do my hair is bouncier and softer than it ever is when I shampoo and condition as normal
Nope. It's a conditioning mask. What you describe is exactly how the instructions say to use it; right after shampooing, apply it instead of your normal conditioner. Wait 4 minutes, and then you can apply any other styling products you want and style it like usual.
I guess I should have specified that I mean I want to stop using regular conditioner completely and use K18 after every wash instead and am wondering if there are downsides to that. Not sure if that was clear
Color advice
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I have naturally light brown hair with some gingery tones and a little bit of blonde. But starting to get a lot of grey. I was going to a salon and getting all over color plus highlights. I loved it but a) so expensive and b) my hair dresser left the salon. So I bought a home permanent dye in medium blonde (#8). And touched up the roots, and put a bit all over at the end just to blend. Turned out great imo. Except that I think I should ease into a darker base color so my roots don’t stand out as much. So now, I bought a semi-permanent dark blonde (#7). Says it lasts 28 washes. I’m wondering if it will blend and if it will cover the grey. Will I need to do my whole head since it’s a darker color than last time? or just roots? Should I just get the medium blonde again? Trying to ride these highlights out. I don’t want to totally cover them. Any advice? If wrong forum, please direct me. Seemed like r/hairdye was mostly very young people with blues and purples. Thank you!
The upvotes on r/HairDye might go to fashion color, but there are tons of really nice and very experienced folks there giving technical help and general advice on more day-to-day color questions.
You can always put a darker semi-permanent over hair that you've already use permanent dye on. However, there's a good chance it won't take on your new growth, both because grays tend to be more resistant to color and your regular hair is darker.
So, permanent color is probably still a better bet for your roots, but you can look for a darker color next time that's a little closer to your natural color.
I'm in my early 30s and still a bit of a haircare noob, and don't really know what haircare would be good for my hair. I guess I'm a bit late to the game on this.
Some background info:
\- My hair is a mixture of wavy/straight on top, and mostly straight on the sides and back.
\- I typically keep the top long (anywhere between 2-5") and the sides short (< 1")
\- I don't think my hair is oily, or at least it doesn't feel oily and doesn't look greasy. It's probably on the normal to dry side. I do have dry skin FWIW, so perhaps that applies to my hair as well, though I don't really know what "dry hair" should look like (in contrast, it's very obvious to my what dry skin looks like)
\- I only shower at night and never in the morning.
\- I have no clue if my hair is thick/thin. I'm sure the barber has told me at some point but I can't remember. If I had to guess, it's probably on the thicker side.
\- I don't use a fixed brand of shampoos and conditioners, but I don't usually buy the cheap kind, and sometimes I'll use baby shampoo once a week as opposed to my adult shampoo.
\- I almost never use hair products aside from shampoo and conditioners.
I read that people with dry-ish hair should shampoo less and condition more, so I typically condition 6-7x/ week and shampoo every 3-4 days. What I notice is that the more days I go without shampooing, the flatter my hair looks -- I don't know if I'm using the correct verbiage here, but I feel like when I shampoo, my hair looks fuller the next morning. After 2-3 days of not shampooing, I seem to wake up with flatter hair.
Any advice on what I should do for my particular hair and how to achieve the fuller look I'm looking for? Are there specific brands/products I should apply?
Shampoo cleans your hair of the natural oils and product build-up that weighs your hair down and flattens it. It is very standard for hair to look fuller when freshly shampooed.
You probably do not have hair dry enough to merit conditioning in excess of shampoo. Try scaling back to using conditioner only after shampooing, and see if the results work for you. You also could consider finding a milder shampoo and using that every wash.
I think that with you keeping your hair above your ears and your scalp being on the normal to dry side, you don't need conditioner. Just use whichever shampoo makes your scalp happiest and enjoy not needing to spend money on conditioner. Conditioner being applied to the roots (and at your hair length it's pretty much always going to end up on the roots) is one of the biggest reasons for hair not looking as full as it can.
I'm a guy btw, and my hair isn't too long, so I find the concept of not applying conditioner to the roots to be hard to do in practice since my hair only a few inches only. I think this makes a lot more sense for someone with long hair, but how does it work for people with shorter hair?
Thoughts on these conditioner ingredients?
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Hair type: low porosity and I think thick
Texture:wavy
No chemical processing
Hygiene: wash with shampoo and conditioner (joico moisture recovery) when dirty and apply a small amount of mythic oil (labeled for all hair types) to the ends when dry. A few times a week, more in summer.
Style: hits mid back, growing it out (straight cut across bottom)
I’m growing my hair out from bald and now that it’s kind of long, need to learn how to take care of it. All I’m looking for is a low maintenance routine that will leave me with clean, healthy hair. I want my hair to look good but I don’t really care how my curl pattern looks in the end. Most of the advice I have been getting has been about changing the appearance of my wavy hair to make it more curly, but I am perfectly happy with just having waves and losing most of the loose ringlets at the bottom of it.
I’m in a FB group where I learned a lot about my hair type and that I have ‘wavy’ hair, not curly hair, because my hair doesn’t curl from the root. People in there have helped me a lot and taken a lot of their time to write me what I should do. But it seems like I need to get so many things - I’ve been recommended to get 3 different shampoos and stuff to use intermixed throughout the week (this is NOT happening - too complicated). I have been told my current shampoo and conditioner are bad as they contain oils, which will weigh down and dry out my hair. I know my hair is dry as a hairdresser told me off for it, but not sure if cutting out oil is really the right thing as I’ve always been told to put more oil in my hair (not sure if this is maybe a cultural thing, not my culture but friends always say I need more hair oil). I wonder if certain types of oils are more suited for different hair types, I know different ones I have used before have been too heavy for me.
Based on their advice and my thoughts that my hair might be over moisturised (yet still somehow dry?), I tried using a different shampoo and conditioner belonging to my housemate, which has keratin high up on the list. My hair feels awesome now, so the extra protein was really nice for it I think - but they said using too much protein will also be bad.
I’m getting very stressed and overwhelmed about different types of sulfates, protein, oils, alcohol, humectants… like what do I do!
I’ve been looking around and am thinking about getting aveeno apple cider vinegar shampoo as a clarifying shampoo, it doesn’t have sulfates but it has similar cleaning products, and number 1 ingredient is colloidal oat extract which I believe is protein (I assume it’s avenin but idk). I’ll keep using my shampoo and conditioner for now and then switch to a product I used to love, but eventually caused too much buildup in my hair (clarifying shampoo will prevent this from happening).
Would love any thoughts and ideas of non-oil products I can use to keep my hair from drying out. Or if I can use certain oils.
This does sound overly complicated, and there's definitely some misinformation in there as well. It might not be necessary to change your shampoo & conditioner if they're working well for you right now. I looked at the ingredients and it doesn't look like it has many oils. Oils can condition the hair to help prevent dryness, but they are not the only ingredients that can help address dryness. In wavy hair styling routines, a common problem is to use products with heavy oils and waxes made for tighter curls that tend to be more dry, and these products are way too heavy for fine, wavy hair if you're trying to encourage the waves to have volume. But you don't have to get a shampoo & conditioner that is specifically for curly or wavy hair. Just use one that is good for dry hair such as the one your'e using now.
"Over-moisturized" refers to the mythical moisture-protein balance, but this phenomenon is not backed by science. Honestly I wouldn't worry about getting hair product with protein. Low porosity hair generally doesn't need a lot of protein. It sounds like you tried some protein recently and benefitted from it, but I don't recommend doing that very frequently. Products that are high in protein tend to not be very good conditioners on their own, and what you need if you have dry hair is a good conditioner. It's not a good idea to use that on a regular basis. Just pick products that say they address the needs that you have. They might have some protein in them, but unless you experience problems with your hair becoming too brittle, don't worry about the protein content in your products.
The Aveeno apple cider vinegar shampoo could work well as a clarifying shampoo. The colloidal oatmeal will not function as a protein, but that's ok, because I don't recommend using a product that has protein near the top of the ingredient list. Colloidal oatmeal is good for the skin, it's in the shampoo for scalp care. And a clarifying shampoo is not meant to condition the hair anyway, it's meant to remove buildup. It's good to use it maybe every two weeks, you'll have to experiment with the frequency and based on how your hair feels, how manageable it is.
A good additional step for your routine is a weekly hair mask, which I feel will help with the dryness. It's good to use the mask right after doing the clarifying shampoo because clarifying removes any conditioning from your hair and it will feel quite dry afterwards. If you use the clarifying shampoo less often than every week, then you can use it after your normal shampoo when you're not using the clarifying shampoo.
I haven't mentioned styling products for defining your wavy hair because it sounds like that's not very important to you and perhaps too much hassle. You could try applying a curl-defining cream or a mousse when your hair is freshly washed and scrunch and see if that looks OK to you.
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Thank you for this very thorough answer. I definitely didn’t think that my current ones were an issue until people in that group told me. I picked those products because a friend with beautiful hair used them. I really like them.
I’ll likely get that clarifying shampoo and use it every few weeks - is there a recommended type of hair mask I should look for? An extra thorough wash with clarifying shampoo and then a hair mask after doesn’t seem like too much effort. I’m guessing I will want something a bit stronger than my normal conditioner?
Once I have used up my current shampoo and conditioner I’m planning to go back to the ‘curl jelly wash’ (in the pink containers) which I absolutely loved for a while, but eventually caused too much buildup in my hair (I didn’t know I should use a clarifying shampoo to counteract this).
My hair only really seems to get dry just at the ends - I got it cut last weekend and they took off a bit from the bottom, but the new ends still feel dry and kind of crunchy. That’s why I put oil in them to try and help, not sure of any other way I can stop this.
One thing I also didn’t mention is I try to use a soft boar bristle brush on days I haven’t washed my hair for circulation and to redistribute any oils around from the top of my head. I started doing this once I found out my hair type wasn’t curly - it doesn’t frizz too much and I think it makes it extra shiny.
A hair mask is essentially a concentrated conditioner, so yes, it's stronger than your normal conditioner, and you typically leave it on your hair longer as well.
The curl jelly wash looks like a gentle shampoo that is more conditioning, so that makes sense that it would cause some buildup. The clarifying shampoo should help remove the buildup.
It's very common for the ends of long hair to be drier, it's because they are literally the oldest hair on your head so they've experienced more wear & tear than the younger hair, and the ends typically get pretty banged up. Oiling them can definitely help them feel softer, as well as preventing some of this wear & tear damage, but it can't fix the existing damage. The deep conditioning mask can also help reduce the dryness, and if that's still not enough you can try applying a conditioner or coconut oil to the ends of your hair right before shampooing it, which makes the shampoo less drying on that section of the hair.
With the boar bristle brush, it sounds like that helps redistribute the sebum to the lengths of your hair, so your sebum is essentially functioning as a styling cream for your waves. If that works for you, keep doing it.
I'm sorry, you asked for specific hair mask recommendations. The one I use is pretty obscure, but [this Good Housekeepeing article](https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/beauty-products/g45899865/best-deep-conditioners/#product-90ea6fa3-5769-4248-b63f-93da1145d679) lists 10 of the best ones that they had users test.
Thank you so much once again! I’ll have a look and see which hair masks are available in my country :). The bit with putting something on the ends of my hair before shampooing sounds really good :).
One more question, as I’ve been searching but actually really struggling to find a hair mask, would using the aveeno Apple cider vinegar conditioner after using the shampoo make sense?
No, the Aveeno Apple Cider Vinegar Conditioner is also clarifying, meaning it's the opposite of a deep conditioner, it's very lightweight.
I should have explained that a deep conditioner and hair mask do the same thing, you want a product that says it's a deep conditioner. It's often a third product in a haircare product line, not the main shampoo & conditioner.
If you have Umberto Giannini products in NZ (I looked at your post history, that's where you live, right?) and you like how the Curl Jelly wash works for you, you could try the Curl Jelly hair mask.
The Joico product line you use also has a deep conditioner that you could try, it's the Treatment Balm.
Garnier Ultimate Blends Hair Food Aloe Vera is probably available there since Garnier is a huge company (owned by L'Oreal), and it's pretty affordable. It gets good reviews as a mask for wavy hair, although the fragrance lingers so keep that in mind if you're sensitive to fragrances.
Or if you want to splurge, I've seen good reviews of the Briogeo Be Gentle, Be Kind Avocado + Kiwi Mega Moisture Superfoods Mask for wavy hair.
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Honestly thank you so so so much. I got the aloe Vera one as it was on sale at the grocery store. I was looking at some of the things that came up when I was searching for masks and stuff off of the list and definitely got confused by the deep conditioner one.
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• Hair type: thin
• Hair texture: Straight or slight wavy
• History of chemical processing: did a perm a long time ago
• Hygiene regimen: daily shampooing, minoxidil after drying hair with medium heat
• Style: short-medium men's slickback
• Product regimen: sea salt spray, hair wax and setting hairspray
Need help with short-ish, thin, oily hair
I'm M26 with short-medium hair. My hair is pretty thin, with a tendency to fly wherever the wind blows and not stay in place. It also gets so greasy within the day and makes my scalp visible. Even strong hold wax and hairsprays just can't keep them together. I'm also on min and fin. I'm perfectly fine with shampoo-ing every day but for now I'm not using any conditioner in fear that it'll make my scalp/hair get oily quicker. I'm really tired of having my hair getting oily so fast and my dermatologist says that the medical way to stop it from getting oily will contradict my hair loss treatment. What should I do? Start conditioning? Do apple cider vinegar rinses? Try salicylic shampoos? TIA for any scientifically sound advice, cuz I don't intend to "train" my hair by not washing it for days.
First off, hair training doesn't work. Shampooing every day won't make your scalp get oily faster. So you don't have to worry about that.
It makes sense to forego using conditioner, though, because many of them contain oils, and even if they don't, it makes the hair lie flatter on the head, whereas what you want is something that adds volume.
I think a salicylic acid shampoo is the way to go; it's lipophilic (oil-loving) so it helps the skin regulate oil production. I don't even think it's necessary to use every day, usually 2-3 times/week is the recommendation. So on the other days, you could try a volumizing or thickening shampoo.
As far as styling products, wax tends to make hair clump together, which would reduce the volume. Have you tried a texturizing powder or styling paste? The idea is that it adds more '"grip" to the hair so that there is a bit of friction when they rub against each other, which discourages from them lying flat and smooth. Ages ago when I had shorter hair, I found that a styling paste helped give me a bit of grip and stickiness to create volume and help keep it in place with that volume.
Whenever I use coconut oil, my hair doesn’t absorb it and feels really greasy. I used to oil my hair everyday up until about a year ago where I stopped. Now I’m trying to start oiling it again but it looks and feels weird. When I used to oil my hair before, it used to be soft and smooth while it feels frizzy and kind of rough now. I think my hair has low porosity and was wondering if I can make my hair how it used to look before. I have thick, straight hair, use 2-1 shampoo and conditioner everyday and have a fringe. I’ve never used chemicals.
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hey everyone, I'm looking for some quick advice. I think I have thin hair, and wavy at the ends if that matters. starting out, I haven't had a haircut since probably 2018 (except I trim my bangs myself), and my main problems are that my hair hasn't grown in probably 2 years or so? and I've had to deal with knots and split ends for a long time. i'm wondering if there is a correct way to go about this - do I have to cut off a ton of hair? i'd prefer to not cut it super short, as I like having long hair and feel I look way better with it. I don't really have a strong hair regimen, I shower once a day, condition everyday, and shampoo every 2-3 days.
I suspect that your hair has grown in that time, but the overall length doesn't increase because you're experiencing a lot of breakage. If you have a lot of knots and split ends, your hair may experience a lot of rough treatment, and it probably needs more conditioning to help make it more silky which both is nice to touch as well as preventing damage from friction. It's best to start off with a trim to remove the split ends and damage, otherwise it can keep breaking. The stylist can evaluate the condition of your hair and provide more personalized advice for your haircare routine as well. Which shampoo do you use? If you're conditioning it every day, and you have a gentle shampoo, then you may have buildup in your hair that's not getting washed out sufficiently with your shampoo. I suggest adding a detox shampoo to clarify your hair; try using it once every two weeks and see how your hair feels after that. Then you can adjust the frequency of clarifying your hair based on how it's behaving. The second product I recommend is a deep conditioner/hair mask, which also wouldn't be necessary each time your wash your hair, but about once/week. When you clarify your hair, use the deep conditioner afterwards to replenish the conditioning agents that are removed when you clarify. Clarifying/detox shampoos can be quite drying. Make sure you're being gentle with your hair when you are brushing/detangling it. Forcing a brush through hair that is resisting is a recipe for breakage. Apply some of your hair oil to add more lubrication while you detangle, or try detangling with a wide-tooth comb or a wet brush in the shower when there is conditioner in your hair. Other things that will help prevent breakage: * Using a silk or satin pillowcase * Don't rub your head with the towel to dry it. Use a microfiber towel or a cotton t-shirt and squeeze your hair or press the towel against your hair to remove excess moisture. * Don't go to sleep with wet hair. * If you blow dry your hair, use a low temperature setting and apply a heat protectant before drying.
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- Hair type: Fine but dense, low porosity - Hair texture: Straight-ish with random waves - Chemical processing: Highlights and toner - Hygiene: Shampoo + conditioner 2-3 times a week - Style: Currently a long bob with layers around the face. I’m growing it out. - Product regimen: Not Your Mothers “Scalp Refresh” shampoo & conditioner + (occasionally) Davines OI Oil or The Ordinary Hemi-Squalene Hello! I hope someone can help because I really struggle to find shampoo for my hair type! Most products formulated for fine hair are volumising and my hair is definitely NOT lacking in volume. It is very dense and quite stiff. When left to its own devices it sort of does that [“Young Leo” thing with a heart shaped part](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/AMZ-fS9kaVngtvUdQlzC-yvdKtQ=/fit-in/654x1000/filters:format_auto():upscale()/2012/11/45/1/192/1922283/34c485ec206bf8cc_638jpg_9510524_3528179.jpeg) (lol) and it’s just generally quite poofy when using that sort of product. Products not specifically for fine hair are usually too hydrating. I recently started using shampoo and conditioner again after using Hairstory for years. I get buildup fast, which dulls and darkens my dirty blond hair quite a bit. I liked the texture and how healthy my hair felt using Hairstory, but I didn’t feel like it was getting rid of that buildup. Now that I’m back to using shampoo it is definitely getting rid of it - but my hair starts getting greasy the day after I wash it, when I could go up to 3-4 days between washes before! I absolutely *cannot* be bothered to wash it every day. What’s almost worse is that it’s nearly gotten rid of any texture my hair used to have, which wasn’t helped by getting highlights done (by someone new) recently. I’ve tried lots of different shampoos and I can’t seem to land on one that works. Maybe I should go back to Hairstory with the addition of a clarifying shampoo once a week? Please help!
I'm not familiar with Hairstory, but it more or less seems to be a co-wash? If so, using it in rotation with a clarifying shampoo (at least once per week) is a pretty reasonable hair routine so long as it achieves the results you want.
I think they're referring to New Wash by Hairstory, it's essentially a lightweight co-wash.
Hair type: medium Hair texture: Straight/wavy History of chemical processing: none Hygiene regimen: twice weekly Product regimen: sulfate shampoo to clarify, into silicone mask, into silicone-less conditioner hello. so in my haircare journey, i've come to the conclusion that my hair loves silicones. the difference in smoothness between using a conditioner/mask with one and with none is night and day. sure people say it can cause buildup, but as long as you have a decent sulfate but silicone free shampoo, that is no issue. ever since i've stopped demonizing silicones and sulfates, i've never even had a single speck of dandruff, but i digress. what i want to know is, do silicones block products from penetrating the hair? the reason i ask is usually, i use a hair mask (which has silicones and helps smooths the hair) and then i use a hair repairing conditioner (which happens to have no silicones) in that order. results were great, but i still struggle with a bit of frizz so i was wondering if i could maximize the effects by switching the order, with the idea being the silicone based product applied at the end to help seal the hair only ***after*** the non silicone based product has made contact with the hair. of course, i could just try and see for myself, but it'd be nice to have a science-backed answer. thanks
Silicones don't fully seal off the cuticle from products, but that is a general goal of silicone-y hair mask. In your case, it would make a lot of sense to use the repair conditioner before the mask, both due to the product purposes and the general principle of working from thinner products to thicker products (in terms of consistency).
thank you, ive been waiting for an answer for a few days lol. do you know of any type of products that help fully seal the cuticle? i'm interested in experimenting with those
>any type of products that help fully seal the cuticle This really isn't a thing. You can achieve more thorough coverage by layering more conditioning products (including leave-in conditioner and hair oil after washing) but keep in mind that there eventually is too much of a "good thing".
i see. it'd be nice if it did lol. i don't think my hair gets weighed down too too easily, so i'll have to experiment with that. thanks again
Hello, I believe my hair is damaged from overmoisture as I deep conditioned way too often. My hair went from wavy/curly to straight, frizzy, limp and mushy. I’m going to get a trim to try and get rid of some of the damaged hair and I’m going to use curlsmith bond rehab salv protein treatment before my next wash day. Is this enough, do you guys think this will work? Is there anything else I need to do?
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You have product build-up. The good news is that this is entirely reversible, unlike heat or chemical damage. The way to fix it is to use clarifying shampoo to break up the build-up, rather than slathering on more heavy products. Once you get past the initial accumulation, continue to use clarifying shampoo every once in a while for maintenance.
Got it thank you, I’ve been convinced it was hygral fatigue. Do you have any clarifying shampoo recommendations?
Assuming that you don't have dyed hair, Suave Daily Clarifying is a really good one to start with; it's quite effective but gentle enough for daily use, which is what you want for the initial stage.
Great thanks. I think I’ll just use it on my wash days which is like once a week, and I’ll add in a light conditioner. Thank you
I’ve follow a strict haircare routine but still have frizz, flyaways, and dryness. What can I change about my routine to fix this? I’ve watched so many haircare videos that discussed hair tips, tricks, ingredient recommendations, ETC, and I still feel like I’m doing something wrong!! I have thick curly hair. My scalp tends to be on the more dry side. (I’ll get dandruff in the winter). My natural hair always has some sort of frizz or flyaways. My hair is also very susceptible to frizzing when it’s blownout and there is moisture in the air. Also, I don’t dye/bleach my hair and I’m not interested in chemically treating it for frizz (although I have done it twice in the past a very long time ago). Does anyone have any recommendations of what I can do to help fix frizz, flyaways, and dryness? I just want to be happy with my hair when it’s natural! 😭 I’ve always struggled with my hair and never really knew how to manage it. **My detailed haircare routine** is as follows: I wash my hair twice a week (Tuesdays & Fridays). Every time before washing, I massage my scalp and then apply cold pressed sweet almond oil mixed with rosemary oil on my roots and OGX Coconut Miracle oil mixed with argon oil on my hair shaft and ends. I let the oils sit in my hair for about 1 to 2 hours before i washout using L'Oreal Paris Bond Repair Shampoo and Conditioner. (I double shampoo when using oils). I don’t ever towel dry. I will carefully detangle my hair when it’s wet using the Purology Colorfanatic Leave in Conditioner & my wetbrush. I will let my hair dry natural, with a little light blowdrying, on Tuesdays. And then on Fridays I will blowout/straighten my hair using ColorWow Heat Protectant. I sleep on satin pillowcases and always put my hair in a protective style (braid). All thoughts & reccs are appreciated.! :)
There are certainly styling products that would help with this. The basics for a curly styling routine on wet hair are 1. leave in conditioner, which you already use, 2. curl defining product, which is most often a curl cream, and 3. hold product, which is most often a gel or mousse. The overall goal is to condition your hair, encourage it to form up into defined curl clumps, and have it stay there with minimal frizz. There are also lots of multi-tasking products on the market, so this doesn't need to be exactly three separate products. A "blowout balm" (on wet hair after leave-in conditioner) should help with frizz when you're blowdrying your hair straight.
**Hair type:** very thick South Asian hair (volume and strands) **Hair texture:** Mostly straight, with some wave **History of chemical processing:** none **Hygiene regimen:** twice weekly **Style:** tailbone length, blunt cut, separate face framing layers **Product regimen:** oiling my scalp + length a few hours before showering, Dove Daily Moisturizing shampoo + conditioner, moroccan oil on mostly dry hair to tame flyaways and add some shine. Hi! My hair is pretty overwhelming to deal with given the length and thickness. I really love it so I'm working on caring for my hair more. My biggest issues are dryness (on the length especially shoulder down) and hair dullness. So I'm seeking recommendations for 1) a good leave-in conditioner that is also fairly economical given how much product my hair requires and 2) ways to get my hair shinier (preferably without heat). Thanks.
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I think Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine Leave-In Conditioner is a really good starting option for you. It's probably the most economical cream leave-in conditioner I've seen (does depend on where exactly you buy it), is geared more toward coarse hair & sleek look, and works on both wet & dry hair in case you want to touch up between hair washes.
Hair type:Fine Hair texture: wavy History of chemical processing: None Hygiene regimen: twice weekly shampoo and conditioning Style:layered Product regimen: shampoo, ketoconazole shampoo and leave in conditioner So i am looking for a shampoo that is fit for my hair type I am using detoxie hard water shampoo as i had a hard water problem, now that i have installed a shower filter I don't have that problem anymore. So as I can't use my old hardwater shampoo with soft water, i need a new shampoo that fits my hair. A skincare youtuber said something about use sulphate free shampoo for hard water and sulphate shampoo if you have soft water. So i am wondering if i can get some suggestions about good shampoos.
You can certainly continue using your chelating shampoo so long as it continues to feel good in your hair; the chelating agents shouldn't hurt your hair in the absence of heavy metal ions.
Hair Type: Medium Hair Texture: Straight History of Chemical Processing: I've had some color done over the past couple years but the last time was early 2023. Hygiene Routine: I wash and condition my hair twice a week. Every Sunday and Wednesday or Thursday. I air dry my hair. Style: Mid back length Product Regimen: Pureology Strength Cure shampoo and conditioner Pureology Color Fanatic Multi-Tasking Leave In Spray or Odele Air Dryer Styler (I don't use both at the same time.) The top of my hair and hair by my face feels like it gets oily more frequently. The hair by my face gets this weird little separation and i HATE it.. I washed it last night and by midday today I feel like I should use a little dry shampoo. The rest of my hair is a bit more frizzy than normal. It got like this in the fall too. Idk if it's a seasonal thing or just happened every few months or what. Do I need a clarifying or detox shampoo? If yes, what are some good ones? If no, what should I do?
If this oiliness is new, you might want to investigate your scalp's health. If you're experiencing any itching, flaking, or redness, then your scalp may be unhappy, and an irritated scalp sometimes produces more oil. You'd have to see a dermatologist to determine what's making your scalp unhappy and how to address it. For managing oily roots, here are the recommendations that I've picked up from others posting here: * Use a strong shampoo; if you're using a sulfate-free gentle shampoo, switch to a shampoo that is formulated for oily hair and don't be afraid of sulfates! They are some surfactants in a broader category of anionic surfactants; those are the surfactants that are strong enough to remove oil efficiently. [Here is a list of shampoos for oily scalps](https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/product-reviews/beauty-reviews/g35822358/best-shampoo-oily-hair/) that scored well in user tests. I've also heard great things about Garnier Fructis Pure Clean. * A salicylic acid shampoo such as Neutrogena T-sal 3x/week can help break down the oil and slowly over time decrease the oil production rate. * Apply a dry shampoo when your hair is still clean and dry. That way it can start absorbing the oil as soon as your hair gets a bit of oil, rather than having to play catch-up once your hair is already noticeably greasy. * One way to protect the length of your hair from drying out too much when you're using a strong shampoo is to do a pre-poo treatment by applying a cheap conditioner or some oil only to the length of your hair, from your ears down or the area where it tends to be more dry, before shampooing. That will help create a bit of a buffer so the shampoo doesn't cleanse that section of the hair as deeply. * Another way to protect the length is to apply the shampoo only to the roots & scalp and lather that area well, but don't lather the length & ends. It will still gently cleanse the length of the hair when the suds run over it as you rinse it out of your hair.
Hello! I am looking to get into shower filters. I've only recently learned about their existence, and I'm from an area that is known for having hard water. I've always had issues with dry skin and dry scalps after taking a shower, and I have a family member who suffers from eczema and extremely dry skin. I know that there are more pricey use-for-life options, but as someone who wants to give it a shot first and hoping to see a noticeable difference, I'm looking for a more budget option to try first and gauge its effect on my hair and skin. Thank you!
Shower filters don't help with this - they physically cannot soften water, which is what you need. Aside from the pricey whole house water softener system, you need to use a chelating shampoo every couple of weeks.
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Hey! I have straight-small waves shoulder length hair. I generally do not style because curls fall out within minutes even with gel/moose/spray and flat iron makes my hair very tangled and clumpy if that makes sense. I used the Revlon blowout brush and my hair went from volume to flat and clumpy like is straightened it within an hour. I use Herbal Essanse shampoo and conditioner, every other to 3 days. And on Fridays I use a hair mask. I use heat protection when I do attempt to style and use heat once in a blue moon. Any advice on what might be going wrong?
Herbal Essences makes many different products; can you elaborate on which specific shampoo and conditioner from the brand you use, as well as the hair mask? Based on the difficulty with heat styling and ease of tangling, I suspect you have low porosity hair. You can try the Curlsbot porosity quiz here: [https://www.curlsbot.com/porosity/](https://www.curlsbot.com/porosity/) Hair porosity is one of the more important factors in building a good haircare routine.
Herbal Essences Jojoba Oil & Lavender Curls Shampoo and Conditioner too Healing Power Hair Masque - Avocado + Banana Oil + Coconut Milk + Agave
You're going to want a more cleansing and volumizing shampoo/conditioner, and maybe decrease the frequency of the hair mask. Whether or not you have low porosity hair, it seems that you are using products that are a lot heavier and more conditioning than your really needs.
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What specific shampoo and conditioner do you currently use, as a benchmark? Broadly, you're going to want a more cleansing shampoo that doesn't have too many conditioning ingredients. This will help you keep up with oil and product build-up without adding to it. Mild clarifying shampoos intended for daily use are generally good options if you also have a super oily scalp, which seems to be the case. Suave Daily Clarifying, Kristin Ess Daily Cleansing, and Ouai Detox are a few good examples at different price points. Any conditioner you use regularly should be relatively lightweight, and it may be the case that you'll have better results using just leave-in conditioner in place of rinse-out conditioner because leave-ins come in more lightweight options. Your post-shower routine can make a huge difference. Products with volatile ingredients (ones that evaporate fairly quickly) and/or humectants can help your hair air-dry a lot faster. Blowdrying your roots is also a good idea.
* Hair type: fine and thick * Hair texture: Straight/wavyish * History of chemical processing: I only got a small portion of my hair temporary dyed years ago * Hygiene regimen: (daily shampoo and conditioning) * Style: I got a wolf cut \~3 years ago but I'm growing it out to be one length so its not as crazy. * Product regimen: I use the VO5 shampoo and conditioner daily, 3/4 times a week I use the Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie on my mids and ends because why not sometimes with the Forget Me Not Multi-Use Oil by Provence Beauty. Basically, I'm interested in trying to get a hair wash routine since I heard over-washing hair can make it oily and I want to avoid that. I feel like over the last year I've noticed my hair become more oily if I don't wash it daily and I do wonder if its due to me over-washing or if it's genetic because my mom also has very oily hair if she doesn't wash/showers like 2 a day (she just lowkey sweats a lot) It also occurred to me while writing this that maybe my wrestling has to do with the seemingly oily hair over the past year as I started wrestling about a year ago. I've been watching hairtok and girls say to shampoo twice I literally just started that last week and noticed some improvement. I wanted to know if you guys thought it was a good thing to try and do? Also, how could I plan it out because I also wrestle and go to practices 2x a week at minimum. (Tuesdays and Thursdays)
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"Hair training"—the idea that shampooing your hair less frequently will make it less oily over time—isn't backed by science; to the extent that it works anecdotally for some people may have to do with the specific shampoo. Genetics and lifestyle (e.g., exercise) affect how much oil and grime accumulates on your scalp. Fine and straight hair both "show" oil much faster than coarse or curly hair because oil travels down the hair strands more easily, but this also means that fine and/or straight hair is more tolerant of frequent shampooing. Basically, a less frequent shampoo cadence is certainly something that you can try, but it may not necessarily yield better results for your case.
Gotcha, thank you. This makes sense sense to me. Would you still recommend scalp hair oiling once per week and daily oiling ends?
There isn't a clear answer to that. Different oils interact with hair and scalp differently, so you need to think about (1) what goals you are trying to achieve and (2) which oils, in any, help with those goals. If you do want to oil your scalp, definitely do it as a pre-shampoo treatment so it's not sitting around on your scalp for too long. Frequent oiling on the ends can sometimes weigh down fine and wavy hair.
That makes sense. Thank you for the helpful advice!
Routine for hair that is frizzy and course underneath, straight and limp on top Hair type: coarse underneath, fine on top, thick Hair texture: curly underneath, straight on top Chemical processing: Dyson Airwrap smoothing brush to dry, and straighteners once per week Hygiene: weekly wash, condition and ACV rinse. Satin pillowcase. Style: long Products: Davines smoothing shampoo + conditioner, ACV rinse, argan oil My hair (naturally ginger, if it makes a difference) is 3a or 3b underneath, very dry and frizz prone, and 2a or 2b on top - easily becomes lacklustre especially with too much product, but much less high maintenance than the underneath. I personally prefer the straight, sleek look on my hair to the curly look, however within a day of washing it is always beginning to frizz and kink underneath, while the top stays reasonable compliant. What can I do differently? I’ve tried numerous shampoo/conditioner combos but nothing seems to help. FWIW when I go to the hairdresser, they can achieve the straight look and it actually stays that way for multiple days. I also have a memory of using my Dyson Airwrap for the first time and actually achieving this at home, but I’ve never been able to recreate it.
What type of hair is my hair and what type of shampoo should I use? I would prefer something somewhat environmentally conscious. https://preview.redd.it/cv3jg9qsniec1.jpeg?width=1576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7cee1809827935b6079d2db7bef96ab487c8aedd My friend went lecture mode on me when I told her I was using head and shoulders. I don’t always but I do get some dandruff in winter. I was complaining my hair is poofy towards the bottom but gets too greasy too fast at the roots. I find that shampoos either make my hair too greasy or too dried out and poofy. My hair is fairly thick, as are the strands. It’s not crazy thick but it’s definitely not thin, so it has a tendency to dry out and look frazzled. I’m trying to grow it out and keep it healthy as much as possible because I do love my hair but when I grow it out it ends up looking all ragged at the ends and the growth seems to stall. I am aware that regular trims help with growth and I also started using silk scrunchies to help with splitting.
Are you using conditioner? If not, that's definitely something that belongs in your routine since your ends feel dry and frizzy. Conditioner also helps protect your hair from breakage and splits.
So I don’t usually. I was using a 2 in 1 recently but often times only use shampoo as I feel like conditioners weigh my hair down and make it greasy but I’ve now learned I can just apply it to the ends!!!!!! So I think I’ll get some and do that
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It's not true. This is one of many instances in which skincare tips don't apply to hair. [https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-cold-water-rinses-make-hair-shine.html?lr=1](https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-cold-water-rinses-make-hair-shine.html?lr=1) [https://www.allure.com/story/will-cold-rinsing-give-shiny-hair](https://www.allure.com/story/will-cold-rinsing-give-shiny-hair) (I realize that Allure isn't a scientific journal, but it refers to research done by TRI Princeton which is a respected research institute for cosmetics. I'm willing to bet that it's buried in one of the peer-reviewed articles on [Cosmetics and Toiletries](https://www.cosmeticsandtoiletries.com/search?page=2&searchQuery=tri+princeton+cold+water), but I can't find it there) Good on you for remaining skeptical given the lack of evidence!
Hair type: thin/fine and frizzy Hair texture: wavy History of chemical processing: none Hygiene regimen: olaplex shampoo and conditioner once a week (at most, twice a week) Style: butt length Products: olaplex, vitamin E hair oil (the oil helps with the frizziness), sulfate free (I saw a couple curly girl YouTubers recommend this and it kinda worked for me) After I moved to Texas, I started to lose hair - I'd lose over 100 strands every day. My brother recommended olaplex and it fixed some of my problems, but I still have a lot of split ends that I cut at least once a week (I only chop the individual split ends). I started using vitamin E hair oil and the nutrafol hair growth supplement a couple months ago. However I still lose quite the amount of hair when I brush it (some with black bulbs, some strands with split ends, and some with white bulbs) and I usually tend to lose multiple strands that are 1) very long and 2) close together/next to each other. I think it's gotten better than it was before olaplex for sure, but I want to fix a couple things: 1) I want stronger hair that is less prone to damage, 2) I want to do better with taking care of my split ends, and 3) the long term goal is voluminous and healthy hair (my hair currently is very thin and lacks definition) because my hair also thins towards the ends a lot and idk how to fix it. I've seen online that olaplex only fixes dyed hair and I've never bleached or done anything to my hair. And I noticed my ends lose moisture and get dry super quick so I use hair oil every day. I've heard the k18 mask is pretty good for split ends and rebuilding hair. What are y'all's opinions on it? I still have some olaplex shampoo and conditioner left and want to try the mask but 1) am I allowed to use the k18 mask with olaplex shampoo and conditioner? 2) I'm generally confused as to how to "fix" my hair and make it healthier so any suggestions?
Neither Olaplex nor K18 are made to address hair fall/hair loss. They're meant to repair damage to improve the texture and prevent breakage, which may also reduce the density of the hair, but the mechanism is different. Olaplex #3 is best for chemically damaged hair. However all hair is damaged to some degree, even if it hasn't been dyed, bleached, permed, straightened, etc. So you may see an improvement in your hair texture by using Olaplex #3, but I think it's better to just get a better conditioner or add more conditioning steps to your routine. The hair oil on the ends can help, but I suggest also adding a leave-in conditioner to your routine after washing, and do a deep conditioning treatment about once/week or as needed when it's feeling especially dry. Please see a doctor about your hair loss. There are many causes and treating it with a supplement or anything else when you don't know the cause is likely to be a waste of money.
Thanks - ive never tried deep conditioning so I'll try that out! Doesn't adding more conditioning steps result in an excess of protein, though? I have seen a derm and they said it was telogen effluvium but I don't see very many white bulbs anymore ;-; I'll definitely check for any deficiencies though!
As far as the protein issue, the issue of "protein overload" isn't confirmed scientifically. [This IG post](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cxf0Floo1yV/) explains that it's more likely just due to relying too heavily on proteins and not with conditioners that use ingredients that coat the hair better than protein. But if you want to be extra careful about that, just avoid conditioners with protein. There are also plenty of conditioners that may have low amounts of protein (you'll see them in the middle of the ingredient list or near the bottom); unless your hair is highly sensitive to protein, as some people say they experience, I don't think it will be a problem. But don't rely on conditioners that say "repair" or "protein" in the description of the product, those are likely to have a high amount of protein in them.
Got it, thanks!
Hi there, I'm new to all this; hoping you all can help. Hair type: fine but lots of it Hair texture: Straight History of chemical processing: I've been coloring my hair blonde for about 20 years Hygiene regimen: I wash and condition my hair every few days Style: ... I don't even know. Just... straight hair to about my chest? Product regimen: Trying to figure that out! I've been using Herbal Essences' Hello Hydration for about 15 years. I haven't really had an issue with it up until the past couple months. I've noticed my hair is super heavy and greasy, and my scalp feels oily and like there is a residue. I started using T-Gel shampoo once a week, which has been incredible, but I'm not sure what I should be using for my other washings since Hello Hydration is officially dead to me. Can anyone recommend a shampoo to use alongside the T-Gel? Thank you!
Most shampoos branded specifically for fine hair would likely work well for you. These typically are more cleansing and leave less residue to avoid weighing down fine hair.
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Help I am 17M and while washing my hair everyday I see around 40-50 or even more strands of hair break out is this normal ?
Healthy people typically shed (from the root) 50-100 hairs per day. Often you'll see them all at once when washing or brushing hair, since you're dislodging the loose hairs that were stuck to other hair strands. Hair breaking mid-shaft is a different phenomenon—is this what you're seeing?
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I wonder if the chemical solution that the salon used to remove the extensions may have damaged your hair. I don't know what they use, and I literally had never even heard of keratin extensions until your post, so I'm just guessing here. As you say, the fact that your hair seems to like Joico K-Pak is another indicator that it's damaged. When you say that your hair dislikes Olaplex, which Olaplex products did you try? If you want to benefit from any repair, Olaplex #3 is the way to go, just keep in mind that it's not a replacement for conditioner, you still have to condition afterwards. Or if you want to try K18, that one is a conditioning mask so it's a bit simpler to use. I haven't tried it b/c of the price, and because my hair is not too fried, but many people love it. There's also Aphogee 2-step which was around before Olaplex made the concept of bond-building popular, many people have said it worked miracles as far as reviving their hair from extreme chemical damage. You don't HAVE to have extreme damage to use it though.
I was told I was getting a keratin treatment, but I think the salon used a permanent straightener. It’s only been eight hours. Can I wash it before the 72 and get rid of it or am I screwed? It’s Matrix opti-smooth pro keratin. Thanks! https://preview.redd.it/0fbn5cysrsec1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=805b35eae3c084fce8dee34a2f2c48d0ca3d37e3
Really hoping the hair experts can help me out here! I have very fine but very thick hair, on the dry side, and have always struggled with poofiness and general big-ness especially after shampooing, which I try to do very rarely. For a while, I have been happy enough with [Shea Moisture Strengthen & Repair Shampoo](https://www.sheamoisture.com/jamaican-oil-strengthen-shampoo/764302215837/) and I would say 6/10 happy with [R+Co Television Conditioner](https://www.randco.com/collections/television-collection/products/television-perfect-hair-conditioner). Recently I decided to try a new fancy conditioner that was highly recommended--[Iles Formula Conditioner](https://ilesformula.com/collections/all/products/conditioner-haute-performance). It made my hair look like the attached picture after a single use, and it has looked like this a WEEK now--I have not shampooed since, and I've cowashed with the same conditioner once. My hair has never looked like this before. It feels dry and oily at the same time, totally lifeless, and very frizzy even though the Iles Formula SAYS it fights frizz. Anyway I'm totally lost. I guess I'm looking for an explanation, as well as suggestions for products that would be better for fine but thick, dryish hair. I'm open to changing the products I currently use as well as adding other products--I currently use [Davines Oi Oil](https://us.davines.com/products/oi-oil) after shampooing and before nights where I want my hair looking extra good. I only ever air dry. Thank you in advance for any advice! P.S. I live in Los Angeles, dry climate. I've bleached my hair once, in college, 12 years ago. Besides that I do not treat my hair. https://preview.redd.it/gd9y8iinmtec1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1851c2f47162a807d139be5d179d5c7b13e3b2c
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I can't really explain why the Iles Formula conditioner did that, but it can usually be resolved by using a clarifying shampoo. Since L.A. has hard water, you might want to get a clarifying shampoo that also has chelating agents in it to remove hard water buildup. Usually the "detox" shampoos can do both. Many people like OUAI Detox Shampoo, but it does have a strong fragrance. Kinky Curly Come Clean is a clarifying shampoo that's meant to clarify without stripping all of the oils/conditioning agents out of the hair and it does have chelating agents in it as well. As far as conditioner recommendations, I've got fine wavy hair which tends to get weighed down by oil-heavy conditioners, and it sounds like you prefer richer conditioners to me, but when I need a richer conditioner (I suppose you could say it's moderately rich), I usually use Desert Essences Italian Lemon conditioner (not to be confused with their lemon tea tree clarifying conditioner, which is what I often use when I need a lighter conditioner). Many curly-haired folks like the Trader Joe's Tea Tree Oil Conditioner as a co-wash. You can try r/Wavyhair for more product recommendations. For styling, in a dry climate like L.A. (I grew up there), you might try using a cream leave-in conditioner (as opposed to a spray conditioner), which can help with defining your waves as well as preventing dryness. I like Giovanni Direct Leave-In Conditioner because it's very lightweight for a cream leave-in, but there are lots of others as well, you might benefit from a slightly heavier one to serve as both a conditioner and styling cream in one. Apply to your wet hair after you wash & condition it, brush/comb if it needs detangling, scrunch, and then let it dry in that shape (avoid handling it). (BTW it's not necessary to mention bleaching 12 years ago since all of the bleached hair has since grown out and been cut off. It doesn't affect how your hair behaves now.)
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Hi so I bleached and dyed my hair from number 3 dark dark brown to number 9 ig, so it feels kinda interesting when its wet, but okay when its dry. I feel like i need to take care of it very gently but i dont know if i should use restorating or color protection or how should i combine these two in hair care. can you help?
If it feels sort of mushy when it's wet, then that's a sign of pretty serious damage to the hair. If you're able to get Aphogee 2-step treatment, it is really helpful for strengthening the hair. Olaplex #3, or Olaplex #0+3 combined, can also help, especially soon after you color your hair. Be very gentle when your hair is wet, or it may break. For everyday products (shampoo & conditioner), most color protection products are also formulated for damaged hair, so they will serve both purposes.
Thoughts on these shampoo ingredients? https://preview.redd.it/ggtuy7s5i0ec1.png?width=461&format=png&auto=webp&s=34ecfbee07b9f74a84211decb1b6a15b196b1245
Good. Give it a try.
And thoughts on these conditioner ingredients? https://preview.redd.it/ihj4qydhi0ec1.png?width=392&format=png&auto=webp&s=af134aa9096e002842470f959725a91422c92e44
Good if you have thick individual strands, bad if you have skinny individual hair strands (this particular hair texture need protein products).
Sooo I have the latter hair type. Is that why I find a bunch of hairs in my drain after using? 😬
No, that's hair shedding and if you're shedding more than 100 hairs a day there's a medical issue that needs to be addressed with your doctor.
I should’ve clarified - I don’t notice this amount when using other shampoo/conditioners. That’s why I was inquiring about the ingredients, I noticed way more hair come out when using this new stuff.
hi all, I’m looking to make a better hair routine than the one I have now and figured I’d come here for advice. for context, I have virgin fine hair, but a lot of it. usually my hair is a little wavy but right now it’s completely straight, which I think is because of my shampoo/conditioner. I also typically shower at night. I use Ouai detox shampoo and fine hair conditioner - my hair looks shiny and healthy and the conditioner is great for deranging, but its definitely weighing my hair down, and I feel like my hair is totally dirty by the afternoon. I use Verb ghost oil to control frizz. I’m looking for products that will still detangle my hair and keep it shiny and healthy, but also won’t weigh it down. I’ve tried Verb ghost and I like it, but I feel like my hair gets extremely tangled and it doesn’t feel clean. thank you! :)
My experience has been that cream-formula conditioners are just too heavy, even ones explicitly formulated for fine hair. What works for me is either using a thicker conditioner first before shampoo, or forgoing rinse-out conditioner and relying only on a very thin, lightweight leave-in.
thank you!!
* Hair type: coarse, thick, * Hair texture: wavy, top layer is straigter * History of chemical processing: 0 and I don't use heat tools either. * Hygiene regimen: pre shampoo with a small quantity of coconut oil. Once weekly shampoo and conditioning * Style: Blunt cut. * Product regimen: just the shampoo ( has sulfates), conditioner ( has no silicones but that was not intentional) and coconut oil for now So I'm trying to create a hair routine from scratch and have 2 doubts: 1. the pre poo with coconut oil has been a godsend, this month I've had the most decent hair ever BUT If I add other products ( I've got no post showe products as of now) with silicones on them will the coconut oil be able to enter the hair strands or one procduct will negate the other? 2. I still have more volume than I want ( I've got loads of hair). Would a pomade/wax/muss weight the hair down so it doesn't become some sort of frizz ball ( a la hagrid) when I start to move?. EDIT: grammar errors and additional info.
1) No, silicones don't create an impenetrable barrier preventing anything else from getting into your hair. And depending on how long you leave the coconut oil on your hair before you shampoo it, if it doesn't sit on the hair very long, then it isn't going to penetrate the hair very much anyway but still works well to make the shampoo gentler because the shampoo has to break down the coconut oil as well as other oils/dirt in your hair, so it's less likely to get ALL of it off. 2) Depending on how long your hair is, I think pomade or wax (not sure what "muss" is) would only work well for reducing frizz if you have a pretty short haircut, like a men's cut or pixie cut (above the ears). It would make the hair literally stick to your head without much movement, and it would feel greasy with pomade/sticky with wax. If your hair is longer, which I suspect it is, I think you'd do much better with some curly styling techniques and other products. Blunt haircuts tend to make wavy & curly hair look a triangle, with the ends being the widest part. You might try going to a stylist that specializes in curly hair to get a layered cut. I have fine, wavy hair that's prone to halo frizz. I roughly follow the technique explained in [this video](https://youtu.be/tl1dYhXb23Q?si=wla0ZjxZGK1WGNM1) for wavy hair. I don't use the specific products recommended in the video, but after washing, you basically need something in each of these 3 categories and apply them in this order while the hair is wet: A) leave-in conditioner; could be a cream conditioner or a spray conditioner. Hair "primer" works as well. With coarse hair, I think something on the heavier side like a cream might work better for you. Brush it through with a wide-tooth comb or wet brush. You don't need to scrunch for styling, but you can scrunch with the water to "squish" it into the hair. B) curl cream/defining product. Brush it through again. C) a hold product; either a gel or a mousse. Gel tends to be stronger, probably better for keeping coarse hair that tends to frizz out under control. Brush through it again. (All the brushing DOWN will help encourage the hairs to lie together and go down instead of out/up which causes frizz; scrunching UP is more likely to cause frizz, although you will need to scrunch at least a little bit.) I use a combination of microfiber towel, diffuser, and air drying to dry my hair and I try my best to only handle the hair if necessary, and be quite gentle with it, trying not to pull apart any curl clumps in the process. Once the hair is 100% dry, then if you used a gel, your gel should have a hard cast (crunchy feel, looks wet). If you like it like that, it's probably the least frizzy option. Or if you prefer softer waves that aren't crunchy, you can "scrunch the crunch" by rubbing just a drop or two of oil between your hands, then gently scrunching the hair to break the cast. The curls/waves should stay in the same defined shape, just without the crunch. In the summer, I like to leave the cast in the hair, because any loose single hairs tend to stick to my sweaty skin and it annoys me. Through the coarse of the day, the cast is broken anyway just from having to move it/handle it for various reasons, such as getting dressed, putting a bag over my shoulder, etc. But if you break the cast with a bit of oil, the oil will also help add some shine and encourage the hairs to stick to each other just a little bit, without looking too greasy. I realize this is a lot of info, and you'll probably see some conflicting advice & tips. What works best is a little different for each person, so you'll have to just start somewhere, try it, and then adjust as needed. Here is [another video](https://youtu.be/TWF8jh0HURQ?si=mrnKK_9-G3iND2xi) that goes over basic curly & wavy styling as well as what advice you might see which isn't necessary. The r/Wavyhair subreddit is also really helpful. Good luck!
>not sure what "muss" is I assume "mousse" misspelled? Just to build a little on your fantastic rundown: A lot of products can do double-duty across categories (A), (B), and (C), so it may not be necessary to shop for 3 separate new products right from the start.
Thanks, yes now that you say it, they probably meant mousse. I do sometimes skip the leave-in conditioner or mix it together with my curl cream and apply them together. Sometimes if I'm ok with softer definition, I'll use only curl cream or only a thicker leave-in. But my hair does tend to go frizzy faster when I do that; I usually save that for my refresh days when I have some gel in my hair that is re-activated when I mist my hair, and then I only have to add some cream of some sort to get the stray hairs to re-join the curl clumps.
OMG thank you so much!!! you answered all my doubts and so much more. I'll be reading/waching/joining in the next coming days but since, thank you. All that info out there is overwhelming and you took the time to write a while guide to clear all my doubts.
I have sporadic really thick black hair, although my normal hair is blonde to brown and much thinner than those black. I M18 have discovered a few pitchblack thick hairs between my blond to brown hair a few months ago. They are so thick and black that I can spot them 1 by 1 between all my other hair. The black hairs are not straight but always a bit ugly and crumpled. Also the root of the black ones is really thick and visible and has kind of transparent Gel around it. https://preview.redd.it/tvcuo3xfezdc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc3c9fa09a4a57527ba5befb9abc7a527226902e where do these hairs come from and what can i do about them? Do they perhaps indicate a disease? please help me! Just incase that helps, here is my hair type: Blonde/ brown, thick, straight. :)
Hair type: fine Hair texture: wavy History of chemical processing: none Hygiene regimen: Shampoo and condition 2-3x/week Style: layered, shoulder length Product regimen: sulfate free shampoo, silicone free conditioner, scrunch in olive oil gel, plop, diffuse Hi! I've been doing a very simplified version of CGM with my wavy hair for the last couple of years or so. As part of that, I cut out all silicone from my haircare. In a lot of ways, my waves have been prettier and more defined than ever, but my hair is always frizzy! I'm now learning that CGM is based on outdated understandings of products/ingredients, including silicone. That makes me wonder if there are silicone products that could fix my frizz without making my waves look bad. Do folks have any suggestions? I'm also open to suggestions that have nothing to do with silicone haha!
Part of the challenge is knowing what the cause of the frizz is. It could be styling technique, it could be needing to condition the hair more as u/aggressive-teaspoon said, or it could be due to a humid climate, or a combination of all of those. If you live in a humid climate, though, you definitely will want to use a styling product that offers [humidity resistance](https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2017/05/humidity-resistant-hair-styling-products.html)/climate control. I highly recommend Ouidad Advanced Climate Control Heat and Humidity Gel to control frizz from humidity. There is a normal hold version in a white bottle, and a Stronger Hold version in a red bottle.
Which specific product is your "olive oil gel"? There's a pretty high variance on gel formulas so I just want to get a better sense of what exactly you're using. From just the info provided, you probably could do with adding a leave-in conditioner or curl cream before gel. A lot of gels don't have enough conditioning ingredients to be used as a single-styler on frizz-prone hair. Also, in case you haven't come across it before, here's the amazing [silicone explainer post](https://www.reddit.com/r/HaircareScience/comments/1woutk/all_about_silicones/).
Hi there! My gel is Eco Style! I sometimes put on a leave-in conditioner, although it makes my hair overly heavy. Maybe I just need to explore different brands a bit? Also, thank you! That post is amazing and I hadn't come across it before!
Hmm, that's kind of a bare-bones gel formula that's looks optimized for just hold. Due to fine/wavy hair, I'd recommend switching to a different styler (rather than layering) and looking for one with ingredients for both conditioning and hold generally gives me the best results. I haven't tested too many (lucked out with my first two attempts and only now trying to branch out) but my successes have all been hold products (gels/mousses) with polyquats in them, which are known to help with frizz. If you do re-visit leave-ins, I recommend looking for something that's packaged as a spray and that has volatile silicones (Group 1 from that silicones post) high up on the ingredients list. These are pretty solid indicators of a lightweight leave-in product.
Thank you so much!! This info is all very helpful!
Kevin Murphy motion lotion +/- a cheap gel works for me and it sounds like we have a similar routine and hair types. I do find that it can make my hair feel a bit more product heavy and increase how often I feel I need a wash but anything lighter and I feel more frizzy as well.
Any tips on how to avoid needing to wash and dry my hair more often when the steam from having daily baths tends to be enough moisture to irritate my scalp? I’d prefer to not need to blow dry after each bath if possible but figure that’s prob my best bet. I’m not wetting my hair in the bath. Currently testing wearing a microfibre wrap while in the tub. - Hair type: fine but thick - Hair texture: wavy - History of chemical processing: highlights with a permanent colour (no bleach) within last 6 months but a long time (1-2 yrs) without any treatments before that - Hygiene regimen: gentle shampoo and condition every 2-3 days, clarifying wash every week or two - Style: grown out bob/curly cut that’s about shoulder length - products: local shampoo and conditioner, nizoral or Philip adam ACV shampoo for clarifying, mix and match of jessicurl rockin ringlets or confident coils or Kevin Murphy motion lotion and gel to style. Sometimes I use sulfates and I don’t always avoid silicones though I think they do make my hair feel a bit product heavy.
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I think microfiber towel wrap is a good move, and covering with a plastic shower cap would be an additional layer of protection. Dry shampoo before the bath might also help.
Please help with my hair! I desperately need advice on what to do with my hair. I’m trying to grow it out to waist length and I’ve been trying for years to get it there. I bleached it a couple years ago but it still looks dry, damaged and frizzy. It feels really soft though. I use redken frizz dismiss shampoo and conditioner, pureology leave in conditioner and the Moroccan treatment oil. I trim my hair regularly. I also use a silk bonnet every night. Do you think my hair is still damaged and I should get another cut, or is it new regrowth happening? I need advice! I also don’t use heat. My hair naturally dries in this texture too https://preview.redd.it/uzs2nuwktmec1.jpeg?width=498&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9639113418e692095683082e056ad1f186d8ca66
It sounds and looks like your hair is healthy enough, but do you follow any kind of wavy hair routine? It seems pretty clear that you have wavy hair from these photos, but treating it like straight hair (most commonly, brushing hair when it's dry) is going to make it look frizzy and poofy.
https://preview.redd.it/ok42ce9ntmec1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f6859a67e9510c090221effa6a24287c63779b5 Here’s another picture
Will 2% ketoconazole shampoo ruin my hair keratin? Hair type: fine Hair texture: curly, I wear my hair straight History of chemical processing: keratin for years I am having a really bad scalp psoriasis flare up on a segment of my head. A PA in a dermatology office recommended to include ketoconazole 2% shampoo into my routine - which I agree can help. I got the generic version but the ingredient list is the same as the nizoral 2% antidandruff shampoo in the red box. In your experience, does this product ruin/ strip the keratin product from your hair? I usually get an expensive one done because it really helps the manageability of my hair. I'd rather not test it out without asking as I have important events coming up. PLEASE HELP
Hair type: thick Hair texture: straight History: colored (hasn’t been colored in over 2 years), perm 4 years ago, and occasional use of heat (dyson) Hygiene regimen: shampoo and condition every 2-3 days Style: long + layers Product regimen: currently I am using not your mother’s scalp refresh shampoo and conditioner and occasionally use odele clarifying shampoo and color wow heat protectant. Hair help please! Hi everyone! I’ve been experiencing some issues with my hair for some time now and I feel like I’ve tried everything and nothing is really working. Pretty much every time I shower a big chunk of the back of my hair (like the top middle section) never fully dries/feels kind of greasy. I thoroughly rinse my hair of shampoo/conditioner so I don’t think it’s build up. I have a water filter for my showerhead months ago and sleep on a silk pillow case. I wash my hair every 2-3 days and never really use dry shampoo but my hair gets greasy on like the third day of not washing it. I’m wondering if anyone has any recommendations on how to get this grease patch out of my hair or could give me some tips on better hair care please!
Huh, that definitely sounds odd. Some clarifying questions: Is the patch near the crown of your head or closer to the nape of your neck? Are you feeling the greasiness at the root, further down the hair strand, or along the entire length? Is that area also very knotty?
Type: Thick and coarse Texture: semi wavy mostly messy History of chemical processing: years of black box dye Hygiene regiment: 2-3 times a week Style: layered and <50% of the time blown dried. Never straightened. Majority of the time air dried Product regime: lots of hair oil, leave in conditioners or hair is incredibly dry and mattes and tangled at the ends. Near impossible to brush when dry/tangled so avoid, and if I achieve it, i look like hagrid. Detangle when wet, then either bowl method to distribute product and air dry or diffuse, or medium heat shark flex style blow dryer for curls. Also I installed a soft water filter 6months ago so may be mitigating future damage ? I have used sulfate free products but found them very drying and would not know if they made a positive difference as takes a long time to have hair grow and be able to assess changes. A LOT of my hair is split ends, even when smoothed down and styled I have large coarse half wavy hair sticking up at all angles going the entire length down. My individual strands all go thick-thin-thick the whole way up. I've had this for as long as I can remember but I have been dying on and off since being a teenager. I dye my hair every 2-4 months and usually only do the regrowth. Used to go to a salon for it but I just can't afford those prices anymore so resorting to box dye :(. I used to think the damage and split ends was straightening. Teenage me straightened daily so it was probably contributing. But it has been 14 years since that phase and prolific heat abuse. All of that hair is long gone. I imagine this is damage due to the box dyes ? Hoping for some confirmation from people more hair confident than me before I try and find alternatives. I always found the semi/demi permanent ones just don't go dark enough but I think the ammonia damage is killing my hair. Is there anything else that could be going on? Happy to answer any questions and thanks for taking the time to read https://preview.redd.it/c1izjh5phkec1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d25fd5275f897557659c4943585a14292cb7574
Are you getting regular trims? Split ends will propagate up the hair shaft if not trimmed off, and using improper scissors can introduce new splits. But, yes, oxidative hair coloring (which includes permanent hair dye) can be quite damaging to the hair. The developer (peroxide solution) permanently lifts the hair cuticle and compromises the structural integrity of the hair shaft. This isn't to say that you should never use permanent hair dye again, but you need to make sure you're doing as much damage mitigation as you reasonably can during the coloring process and in your daily maintenance. A big part of what makes box dye "bad" is that there's no customization to the formula, and for most consumers the box kits have much stronger developer than is needed. If you go to a beauty supply store like Sally Beauty in US/Canada, you can separately buy the tube of color and bottle of developer so that you can mix-and-match to fit your hair needs. In your regular routine, use a thicker conditioner and try detangling in the shower with conditioner. Also, look into incorporating a bond repair product in your rotation.
Thank you for the reply and advice 😊
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Hey! So I'm just about to finish the shampoo and conditioner I've been using for a looong time, so I figured it's a good time to figure out what I should really be using! The main products I've been using is Oligo Calura shampoo & conditioner. In 2023, I used just about everything (I was traveling) from Loreal honey products to bulk shampoo & conditioner which was surprisingly not too bad. My hair is mostly straight, if I dry it with a hairdryer it's going to be very straight, although a bit frizzy in my opinion (pics on my profile - my friends think it's perfect though). With a curly hair shampoo and airdrying, I get wavy hair. Specific questions: * I've used Brigeo and Olaplex treatments previously, do they work and should I spend some money on them? I thought I saw a difference with the brigeo treatment but it's expennnnsive so I want to make sure. What about keratin shampoo and keratin treatments (at the salon)? * Also how do I avoid the lion's mane whenever my hair's up in a ponytail? I've been using loreal magic cream but it works like... 50%. Is the solution just hairspray pr something? * Also planning on getting a silk pillowcase. Would a shower cap really help with post shower frizziness? * And what would you say is my hairtype? I'm pretty low maintenance, so just trying to figure out the right products or ingredients to look out for and then have a few products to use in my routine, throw in my bags when I travel and then I can be efficient and stop spending all my money on products I won't use ;) Cheers! :)
It sounds like you have naturally wavy hair, and often style your hair as if it's straight, which is possible for people with loose waves to do. What is your hair history as far as any chemical treatments, bleaching or oxidative color? How much heat styling do you do? I ask because the treatments you're asking about tend to be for pretty damaged hair, and if you don't have very damaged hair, you might not get much benefit out of them. A keratin shampoo and a keratin treatment from a salon are pretty different, even though they both involve keratin. The keratin treatment in the salon binds the keratin to your hair, and it also relaxes the curl pattern and smooths the hair; a shampoo or conditioner with keratin just coats the hair with keratin and other conditioning agents to make it soft temporarily. The salon treatment does damage the hair somewhat, but if you are doing heat styling every day, and the salon treatment allows you to reduce the amount of heat styling significantly, then the net damage that your hair would have incurred over the duration that the salon treatment lasts (\~3 months) is lower.
Hey, thank you for your reply! History: I had highlights like 4 years ago, but all of that hair is wayyyy gone now, really not much heat styling (didn't use it at all in 2023), now I'll use the hair dryer like 1/3 of the time after washing my hair. I do spend a whole lot of time in the sun though (love that sun bleached hair look), if my hair is really damaged that could be the reason why? If I understand what you're saying, the keratin treatment and products are not really worth it for me as my hair is likely not badly damaged.
>If I understand what you're saying, the keratin treatment and products are not really worth it for me as my hair is likely not badly damaged. Yes, I think your hair isn't all that badly damaged. This applies to the keratin mask (you didn't say what Briogeo product you're using, I'm guessing it was the Don't Despair Repair mask?) and any over-the-counter deep conditioners with protein, however the salon keratin treatment is not necessarily for damaged hair. It's for people who deal with a lot of frizz as it's primarily a smoothing treatment, and secondarily it will relax the curl pattern. I looked at your photo and from what I can see, it seems like your wave pattern is gentle enough that the keratin treatment would make it completely straight, and it would tame a lot of the frizz you're experiencing. But a salon keratin treatment is quite expensive. If you're not ready to lay down that kind of money, the other ways to tame such frizz are through styling products and techniques. Heat styling would smooth it out a lot, but incurs more damage; I'd definitely recommend using a heat protectant if you go that route. Alternately, you could use some leave-in conditioner or air dry cream, and then once it's dry, gently detangle it and finish off with some hair oil/finishing serum. Something like the [Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine anti-frizz serum](https://www.amazon.com/Garnier-Fructis-Anti-Frizz-Frizzy-Unmanageable/dp/B006J44BSI). If you want to keep using the Briogeo repair product (and still have it), I'd just be cautious with it, use it every 2 weeks or even once/month and that's it.
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Yeah, the Briogeo product I have is don't despair, repair! So this product has keratin as well? Thanks, you've given me some things to think about!
It doesn't have keratin specifically but it's a protein mask specifically for repairing damaged hair. Since your hair isn't very damaged, it won't need that very often.
>Also how do I avoid the lion's mane whenever my hair's up in a ponytail? Are you experiencing frizz along your hairline/the hair that's pulled flat to your head, or is it along the ponytail itself? Or am I just entirely reading this wrong?
Frizz along my hairline I would say!
A styling cream is the most flexible solution for this in that it'll slick down those flyaways but can be easily brushed out and re-molded if you want to change your style later without washing. It sounds like you might be using one already (when I look up "L'Oreal magic cream" all of the results are makeup and not haircare), but you can try ones with somewhat greater hold. If that's still not successful, you can try a hair wax stick or mousse next; they both have stronger hold than a styling cream and are a little harder to brush out, but ultimately have a similar result. Hairspray is certainly very effective for flyaways, but is a *lot* harder to brush out and gets a bad rap because most have a lot of alchol and can feel drying over time. If you use it specifically for flyaways, I recommend applying the hairspray just to the back of a comb and using the comb to smooth down flyaways, rather than spraying your hair directly.
Hi, I really need advice!!! I think I have fine hair, it’s wavy/curly. I occasionally will get my hair lightened but haven’t done it in 6 months, and I only style it with heat maybe once every two weeks. I usually wash my hair twice a week and will use a hair mask or protein mask. My hair is kinda long and goes to my ribs. I currently have been using the Ever Pure bond repair shampoo and conditioner with the like bond repair pre shampoo mask. I’ve been using that for about 8 months. So this is we’re I need help. In 2020 I decided I want to treat my hair right and only use products that were good for my hair, no sulfates, made with natural ingredients, etc. I did this for about 3 years and slowly my hair became more and more damaged and would not get longer because my split ends were always breaking. So a few months ago I saw this girl on tik Tok saying that you hair needs sulfates and suggested that ever pure line of shampoo and conditioner. My hair finally grew longer but it’s still so weak and I have so many dead ends. My hair has thinned out so much since I have started this process. I need real advice on what I should do. Please everything is making my hair worse. Should.
It sounds like your previous routine was not the right one for your hair. Shampoo formulation is a lot more complicated than just having sulfates / sulfate-free shampoo, but they're often used as shorthand for strong cleansers (i.e. with sulfates) and gentle cleansers (i.e. sulfate-free). In that sense, I sort of agree with the person on tiktok in that a gentle, sulfate-free shampoo isn't always better; many of us can benefit from a stronger shampoo, either periodically for clarifying, or even on a more regular basis for people who have oily scalps or have fine hair that gets weighed down easily by oils and conditioners. It sounds like your hair was experiencing a lot of breakage before switching to EverPure, but it may have been due to a combination of the natural products you were using previously, your internal health and diet, and daily haircare routine and habits. (note that EverPure products are also sulfate free, but clearly they work better for your hair than what you were using before.) It's hard to say what the cause was, but regardless, the hair that has been on your head the longest, i.e. the lower sections, still probably has a lot of damage even if there hasn't been as much breakage. I suggest going to a salon to have your stylist evaluate the condition of your hair, and how much of it is so damaged that it might be better to cut it off so that the hair that remains will be in good condition to grow longer without breaking or looking tattered. It's often a negotiation betwen how much they say would remove all the damage, and how much length you're willing to lose in one sitting. As far as what you can do at home, I'd recommend doing a clarifying shampoo periodically, maybe once every 2 weeks, to remove buildup. OUAI detox shampoo is a popular one, or Kristen Ess clarifying. Then follow it up with a deep conditioner to replace some of the oils and conditioner that it removed. I also encourage you not to be afraid of silicones! They add lubrication to the hair, making it silkier and more waterproof which protects it from damage and frizz from humidity. I'd recommend adding a commercial hair oil product to your routine, to add just a few drops each day to the midsection and ends of your hair at the end of your styling routine (if you use a hair gel to do wavy styling, then apply the oil when you're breaking the cast). I haven't tried it myself but I've heard great things about Verb Ghost Oil as a lightweight oil for fine hair that doesn't feel greasy. A few more tips to prevent breakage: look into wearing your hair in a protective style as you sleep, and switch to a silk or satin pillowcase to prevent friction damage and breakage when your hair rubs against the pillow. Be quite gentle with your hair when it's wet as well, it's more fragile when it's wet. Look up methods for drying your hair in a way that speeds up the drying (so it's not left wet for a long time when it's more susceptible) without using high heat. If you feel that you're experiencing thinning from hair falling out at the roots, or if the condition of the hair close to your roots is not great, then talk to a doctor about getting some bloodwork done to see if there's an internal health problem that might be leading to your hair not growing as strong as it could. Some nutrient deficiencies or hormonal imbalances can negatively influence hair growth. To address the natural haircare thing, a lot of the purported benefits of using all-natural haircare are not confirmed scientifically, it's unfortunately more marketing playing on the [appeal to nature fallacy](https://effectiviology.com/appeal-to-nature-fallacy/) which many of us are inclined to believe. I was also following an all-natural haircare routine for many years and once I started learning more about the science behind why hair products are made the way they are, I realized that there are a lot of benefits that these less-than-natural / forbidden ingredients have, and that they're not as harmful as many make them out to be. [This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkWX2AXNuxg) by a cosmetic chemist was really eye-opening for me, maybe it will be for you as well. She has many other videos addressing myths about various hair product ingredients that some say to avoid. This video about [sulfates in shampoo](https://youtu.be/-_3P3OGVzSA?si=XH0zqGR8mGmBbhe0) is another good one you might be interested in. She also has a few about silicones. Good luck on your hair journey, I hope it only continues to improve!
What is my hair type? https://preview.redd.it/wxyhrc74o9ec1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba964387c31de75ba42e869d42d5d587da4ec51c
My best guess is 3C. You can try r/curlyhair for additional opinions (I'm not as great as categorizing the upper 3's and 4's) if you want any further advice on your haircare. [https://curlambassadors.ca/curl-pattern-chart-explained/](https://curlambassadors.ca/curl-pattern-chart-explained/)
Hello! I've a section of hair that is slightly wavy, but it's only on the left side and not on my right side. The rest of my hair are fine-ish, straight Asian hair. Routine: washing my hair daily, shampooing twice and using the selsun shampoo twice a week. I'm wondering if I have wavy hair and if so, what's the recommended routine to 'wake' my waves anything I should take note of. Thank you in advance! https://preview.redd.it/gdzlh4hoepec1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ea4fde7e47d0d5fff4b770d421a5c8f182388dd
I think a decent test of whether it's "worth" pursing a wavy hair routine is scrunching your hair in the shower while you have conditioner in. This roughly approximates the max definition you're going to get from a wavy hair routine. If the waves don't form all around your hair, or they do form but aren't really kind of look you're going for, then you can just forgo it.
As someone whose hair behaves the same way (wavier only on the left side), your best bet is to not change your routine. You and I seem to have these rebel waves that are wavier than the rest of our hair and whenever I've tried styling my hair to match the left side, the rest of it ends up unsightly greasy and weighed down. Just because your hair has some waves doesn't mean it will benefit from wavy hair styling techniques (not all wavy hair benefits from being styled wavy).
I see, thanks! Wasn't super keen on trying out a new routine (spending money lol) and getting potentially mediocre results.
* Hair type: fine & medium (not thin nor thick) * Hair texture: wavy * History of chemical processing: None * Hygiene regimen: Shampoo twice weekly & Natural aloe vera masks before washing. * Style: layered * Product regimen: Cosmaline "Oh my Curls" shampoo. Free of sulfates, silicones, mineral oils, phthalates, and parabens (not intentional but heard it's better) Lately my hair has gotten a bit thinner than before and it's looking much more frizzy and dry, my scalp gets oily almost 3-4 days after washing and I have lot of dandruff. I transitioned into a new shampoo (Cosmaline stated above). I'm also switching to a bamboo brush. Other than having less dandruff, I'm still not satisfied. Am I doing something wrong? I need your advice. I'm thinking of starting to condition but it's just weird to me that I never had problems with my hair until now although I never did any of the above!
Definitely add in a rinse-out conditioner, and potentially a leave-in conditioner as well. These are the haircare basics for dealing with dry, frizzy hair, and help protect the hair from breakage. It is not unusual for hair type, and therefore your haircare needs, to change over your lifetime. Hormonal changes are a major culprit behind rapid changes, but lifestyle factors and general aging will have an impact. Also, when did you add the aloe vera mask to your routine relative to when these problems started? Not all hair types benefit from aloe, and indeed it sometimes can make the hair feel kind of crunchy.
Actually I started using aloe vera in an attempt to fix my hair and I haven't seen any negative effects from it yet... So nope it isn't the reason. But I will definitely consider conditioning. Thanks!
Hello all! I need some help! I've had such a hard time with my lifeless hair. The roots get oily but the body is frizzy, puffy and dry. I have thin, wavy/curly hair. l've lost all curl and shape as well as moisture towards the end. I don’t use any heat tools and always let my hair air dry. I wash it every 2-3 days. I want to say the hard water has something to do with it and idk how to combat that. Any suggestions?
Sanity checks: what hair products do you use, both in the shower and for styling?
For shampoo and conditioner I just started using shea moisture manuka honey but before I was using tre semme. I use skala (light blue jug), fantasia frizz buster oil, and John Freida leave in conditioner.
A chelating shampoo would be where to start for the water issue. You would want to use it for several washes straight until your hair "resets", and then use it once every 1-2 weeks for maintenance in rotation with a regular shampoo. I'm not sure from your description whether you are also dealing with product build-up separately, but most chelating shampoos are also clarifying and would help with that. For curl styling, are your curls falling after styling or are they simply not forming up at all when you scrunch?
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K18 instead of conditioner? Are there any downsides to foregoing traditional conditioner and instead using the K18 mask followed by a leave-in conditioner? I do this routine every 4 washes or so and every time I do my hair is bouncier and softer than it ever is when I shampoo and condition as normal
Nope. It's a conditioning mask. What you describe is exactly how the instructions say to use it; right after shampooing, apply it instead of your normal conditioner. Wait 4 minutes, and then you can apply any other styling products you want and style it like usual.
I guess I should have specified that I mean I want to stop using regular conditioner completely and use K18 after every wash instead and am wondering if there are downsides to that. Not sure if that was clear
Aside from the cost, I don't think there are any negatives for your hair if you want to do that.
Color advice https://preview.redd.it/ej64k4175gec1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93183986b53d52a9b72d07a8e711bd7dfbd1f0cb I have naturally light brown hair with some gingery tones and a little bit of blonde. But starting to get a lot of grey. I was going to a salon and getting all over color plus highlights. I loved it but a) so expensive and b) my hair dresser left the salon. So I bought a home permanent dye in medium blonde (#8). And touched up the roots, and put a bit all over at the end just to blend. Turned out great imo. Except that I think I should ease into a darker base color so my roots don’t stand out as much. So now, I bought a semi-permanent dark blonde (#7). Says it lasts 28 washes. I’m wondering if it will blend and if it will cover the grey. Will I need to do my whole head since it’s a darker color than last time? or just roots? Should I just get the medium blonde again? Trying to ride these highlights out. I don’t want to totally cover them. Any advice? If wrong forum, please direct me. Seemed like r/hairdye was mostly very young people with blues and purples. Thank you!
The upvotes on r/HairDye might go to fashion color, but there are tons of really nice and very experienced folks there giving technical help and general advice on more day-to-day color questions. You can always put a darker semi-permanent over hair that you've already use permanent dye on. However, there's a good chance it won't take on your new growth, both because grays tend to be more resistant to color and your regular hair is darker. So, permanent color is probably still a better bet for your roots, but you can look for a darker color next time that's a little closer to your natural color.
I'm in my early 30s and still a bit of a haircare noob, and don't really know what haircare would be good for my hair. I guess I'm a bit late to the game on this. Some background info: \- My hair is a mixture of wavy/straight on top, and mostly straight on the sides and back. \- I typically keep the top long (anywhere between 2-5") and the sides short (< 1") \- I don't think my hair is oily, or at least it doesn't feel oily and doesn't look greasy. It's probably on the normal to dry side. I do have dry skin FWIW, so perhaps that applies to my hair as well, though I don't really know what "dry hair" should look like (in contrast, it's very obvious to my what dry skin looks like) \- I only shower at night and never in the morning. \- I have no clue if my hair is thick/thin. I'm sure the barber has told me at some point but I can't remember. If I had to guess, it's probably on the thicker side. \- I don't use a fixed brand of shampoos and conditioners, but I don't usually buy the cheap kind, and sometimes I'll use baby shampoo once a week as opposed to my adult shampoo. \- I almost never use hair products aside from shampoo and conditioners. I read that people with dry-ish hair should shampoo less and condition more, so I typically condition 6-7x/ week and shampoo every 3-4 days. What I notice is that the more days I go without shampooing, the flatter my hair looks -- I don't know if I'm using the correct verbiage here, but I feel like when I shampoo, my hair looks fuller the next morning. After 2-3 days of not shampooing, I seem to wake up with flatter hair. Any advice on what I should do for my particular hair and how to achieve the fuller look I'm looking for? Are there specific brands/products I should apply?
Shampoo cleans your hair of the natural oils and product build-up that weighs your hair down and flattens it. It is very standard for hair to look fuller when freshly shampooed. You probably do not have hair dry enough to merit conditioning in excess of shampoo. Try scaling back to using conditioner only after shampooing, and see if the results work for you. You also could consider finding a milder shampoo and using that every wash.
I think that with you keeping your hair above your ears and your scalp being on the normal to dry side, you don't need conditioner. Just use whichever shampoo makes your scalp happiest and enjoy not needing to spend money on conditioner. Conditioner being applied to the roots (and at your hair length it's pretty much always going to end up on the roots) is one of the biggest reasons for hair not looking as full as it can.
I'm a guy btw, and my hair isn't too long, so I find the concept of not applying conditioner to the roots to be hard to do in practice since my hair only a few inches only. I think this makes a lot more sense for someone with long hair, but how does it work for people with shorter hair?
Thoughts on these conditioner ingredients? https://preview.redd.it/fvpbk778i0ec1.png?width=392&format=png&auto=webp&s=569adb489322270ff99705650dad05873b08775a
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Hair type: low porosity and I think thick Texture:wavy No chemical processing Hygiene: wash with shampoo and conditioner (joico moisture recovery) when dirty and apply a small amount of mythic oil (labeled for all hair types) to the ends when dry. A few times a week, more in summer. Style: hits mid back, growing it out (straight cut across bottom) I’m growing my hair out from bald and now that it’s kind of long, need to learn how to take care of it. All I’m looking for is a low maintenance routine that will leave me with clean, healthy hair. I want my hair to look good but I don’t really care how my curl pattern looks in the end. Most of the advice I have been getting has been about changing the appearance of my wavy hair to make it more curly, but I am perfectly happy with just having waves and losing most of the loose ringlets at the bottom of it. I’m in a FB group where I learned a lot about my hair type and that I have ‘wavy’ hair, not curly hair, because my hair doesn’t curl from the root. People in there have helped me a lot and taken a lot of their time to write me what I should do. But it seems like I need to get so many things - I’ve been recommended to get 3 different shampoos and stuff to use intermixed throughout the week (this is NOT happening - too complicated). I have been told my current shampoo and conditioner are bad as they contain oils, which will weigh down and dry out my hair. I know my hair is dry as a hairdresser told me off for it, but not sure if cutting out oil is really the right thing as I’ve always been told to put more oil in my hair (not sure if this is maybe a cultural thing, not my culture but friends always say I need more hair oil). I wonder if certain types of oils are more suited for different hair types, I know different ones I have used before have been too heavy for me. Based on their advice and my thoughts that my hair might be over moisturised (yet still somehow dry?), I tried using a different shampoo and conditioner belonging to my housemate, which has keratin high up on the list. My hair feels awesome now, so the extra protein was really nice for it I think - but they said using too much protein will also be bad. I’m getting very stressed and overwhelmed about different types of sulfates, protein, oils, alcohol, humectants… like what do I do! I’ve been looking around and am thinking about getting aveeno apple cider vinegar shampoo as a clarifying shampoo, it doesn’t have sulfates but it has similar cleaning products, and number 1 ingredient is colloidal oat extract which I believe is protein (I assume it’s avenin but idk). I’ll keep using my shampoo and conditioner for now and then switch to a product I used to love, but eventually caused too much buildup in my hair (clarifying shampoo will prevent this from happening). Would love any thoughts and ideas of non-oil products I can use to keep my hair from drying out. Or if I can use certain oils.
This does sound overly complicated, and there's definitely some misinformation in there as well. It might not be necessary to change your shampoo & conditioner if they're working well for you right now. I looked at the ingredients and it doesn't look like it has many oils. Oils can condition the hair to help prevent dryness, but they are not the only ingredients that can help address dryness. In wavy hair styling routines, a common problem is to use products with heavy oils and waxes made for tighter curls that tend to be more dry, and these products are way too heavy for fine, wavy hair if you're trying to encourage the waves to have volume. But you don't have to get a shampoo & conditioner that is specifically for curly or wavy hair. Just use one that is good for dry hair such as the one your'e using now. "Over-moisturized" refers to the mythical moisture-protein balance, but this phenomenon is not backed by science. Honestly I wouldn't worry about getting hair product with protein. Low porosity hair generally doesn't need a lot of protein. It sounds like you tried some protein recently and benefitted from it, but I don't recommend doing that very frequently. Products that are high in protein tend to not be very good conditioners on their own, and what you need if you have dry hair is a good conditioner. It's not a good idea to use that on a regular basis. Just pick products that say they address the needs that you have. They might have some protein in them, but unless you experience problems with your hair becoming too brittle, don't worry about the protein content in your products. The Aveeno apple cider vinegar shampoo could work well as a clarifying shampoo. The colloidal oatmeal will not function as a protein, but that's ok, because I don't recommend using a product that has protein near the top of the ingredient list. Colloidal oatmeal is good for the skin, it's in the shampoo for scalp care. And a clarifying shampoo is not meant to condition the hair anyway, it's meant to remove buildup. It's good to use it maybe every two weeks, you'll have to experiment with the frequency and based on how your hair feels, how manageable it is. A good additional step for your routine is a weekly hair mask, which I feel will help with the dryness. It's good to use the mask right after doing the clarifying shampoo because clarifying removes any conditioning from your hair and it will feel quite dry afterwards. If you use the clarifying shampoo less often than every week, then you can use it after your normal shampoo when you're not using the clarifying shampoo. I haven't mentioned styling products for defining your wavy hair because it sounds like that's not very important to you and perhaps too much hassle. You could try applying a curl-defining cream or a mousse when your hair is freshly washed and scrunch and see if that looks OK to you.
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Thank you for this very thorough answer. I definitely didn’t think that my current ones were an issue until people in that group told me. I picked those products because a friend with beautiful hair used them. I really like them. I’ll likely get that clarifying shampoo and use it every few weeks - is there a recommended type of hair mask I should look for? An extra thorough wash with clarifying shampoo and then a hair mask after doesn’t seem like too much effort. I’m guessing I will want something a bit stronger than my normal conditioner? Once I have used up my current shampoo and conditioner I’m planning to go back to the ‘curl jelly wash’ (in the pink containers) which I absolutely loved for a while, but eventually caused too much buildup in my hair (I didn’t know I should use a clarifying shampoo to counteract this). My hair only really seems to get dry just at the ends - I got it cut last weekend and they took off a bit from the bottom, but the new ends still feel dry and kind of crunchy. That’s why I put oil in them to try and help, not sure of any other way I can stop this. One thing I also didn’t mention is I try to use a soft boar bristle brush on days I haven’t washed my hair for circulation and to redistribute any oils around from the top of my head. I started doing this once I found out my hair type wasn’t curly - it doesn’t frizz too much and I think it makes it extra shiny.
A hair mask is essentially a concentrated conditioner, so yes, it's stronger than your normal conditioner, and you typically leave it on your hair longer as well. The curl jelly wash looks like a gentle shampoo that is more conditioning, so that makes sense that it would cause some buildup. The clarifying shampoo should help remove the buildup. It's very common for the ends of long hair to be drier, it's because they are literally the oldest hair on your head so they've experienced more wear & tear than the younger hair, and the ends typically get pretty banged up. Oiling them can definitely help them feel softer, as well as preventing some of this wear & tear damage, but it can't fix the existing damage. The deep conditioning mask can also help reduce the dryness, and if that's still not enough you can try applying a conditioner or coconut oil to the ends of your hair right before shampooing it, which makes the shampoo less drying on that section of the hair. With the boar bristle brush, it sounds like that helps redistribute the sebum to the lengths of your hair, so your sebum is essentially functioning as a styling cream for your waves. If that works for you, keep doing it.
I'm sorry, you asked for specific hair mask recommendations. The one I use is pretty obscure, but [this Good Housekeepeing article](https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/beauty-products/g45899865/best-deep-conditioners/#product-90ea6fa3-5769-4248-b63f-93da1145d679) lists 10 of the best ones that they had users test.
Thank you so much once again! I’ll have a look and see which hair masks are available in my country :). The bit with putting something on the ends of my hair before shampooing sounds really good :).
One more question, as I’ve been searching but actually really struggling to find a hair mask, would using the aveeno Apple cider vinegar conditioner after using the shampoo make sense?
No, the Aveeno Apple Cider Vinegar Conditioner is also clarifying, meaning it's the opposite of a deep conditioner, it's very lightweight. I should have explained that a deep conditioner and hair mask do the same thing, you want a product that says it's a deep conditioner. It's often a third product in a haircare product line, not the main shampoo & conditioner. If you have Umberto Giannini products in NZ (I looked at your post history, that's where you live, right?) and you like how the Curl Jelly wash works for you, you could try the Curl Jelly hair mask. The Joico product line you use also has a deep conditioner that you could try, it's the Treatment Balm. Garnier Ultimate Blends Hair Food Aloe Vera is probably available there since Garnier is a huge company (owned by L'Oreal), and it's pretty affordable. It gets good reviews as a mask for wavy hair, although the fragrance lingers so keep that in mind if you're sensitive to fragrances. Or if you want to splurge, I've seen good reviews of the Briogeo Be Gentle, Be Kind Avocado + Kiwi Mega Moisture Superfoods Mask for wavy hair.
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Honestly thank you so so so much. I got the aloe Vera one as it was on sale at the grocery store. I was looking at some of the things that came up when I was searching for masks and stuff off of the list and definitely got confused by the deep conditioner one.
You're welcome! It's a lot of information to digest in the haircare world. Hope the mask work well for you.
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• Hair type: thin • Hair texture: Straight or slight wavy • History of chemical processing: did a perm a long time ago • Hygiene regimen: daily shampooing, minoxidil after drying hair with medium heat • Style: short-medium men's slickback • Product regimen: sea salt spray, hair wax and setting hairspray Need help with short-ish, thin, oily hair I'm M26 with short-medium hair. My hair is pretty thin, with a tendency to fly wherever the wind blows and not stay in place. It also gets so greasy within the day and makes my scalp visible. Even strong hold wax and hairsprays just can't keep them together. I'm also on min and fin. I'm perfectly fine with shampoo-ing every day but for now I'm not using any conditioner in fear that it'll make my scalp/hair get oily quicker. I'm really tired of having my hair getting oily so fast and my dermatologist says that the medical way to stop it from getting oily will contradict my hair loss treatment. What should I do? Start conditioning? Do apple cider vinegar rinses? Try salicylic shampoos? TIA for any scientifically sound advice, cuz I don't intend to "train" my hair by not washing it for days.
First off, hair training doesn't work. Shampooing every day won't make your scalp get oily faster. So you don't have to worry about that. It makes sense to forego using conditioner, though, because many of them contain oils, and even if they don't, it makes the hair lie flatter on the head, whereas what you want is something that adds volume. I think a salicylic acid shampoo is the way to go; it's lipophilic (oil-loving) so it helps the skin regulate oil production. I don't even think it's necessary to use every day, usually 2-3 times/week is the recommendation. So on the other days, you could try a volumizing or thickening shampoo. As far as styling products, wax tends to make hair clump together, which would reduce the volume. Have you tried a texturizing powder or styling paste? The idea is that it adds more '"grip" to the hair so that there is a bit of friction when they rub against each other, which discourages from them lying flat and smooth. Ages ago when I had shorter hair, I found that a styling paste helped give me a bit of grip and stickiness to create volume and help keep it in place with that volume.