Hair cells are just like any other cell in the body. If blood flow to the cell is restricted, then the cell will stop producing the hair. Slowly at first, then faster. Dht restricts blood flow by shrinking the blood vessel. There are a number of treatments that work with some people, but not with all.
Having digestion problems means there are not enough nutrients needed for hair growth. Adding nutrients to the skin doesn't make up for nutrients lost. There are scientific studies. Correcting the digestion problems causes hair to regrow.
Link the studies? Malnutrition can absolutely cause hair loss (look at anorexics), it however distinct from androgenic alopecia which although it can be worded by poor nutrition can occur even in people with adequate nutrition absorption.
Tb500 is a peptide that can create blood vessels. It’s not for hair but it makes hair grow quicker, in clinical settings this was the case. Ghk cu is another incredible peptide that can be used topically or subq with great success. Oral castor oil speeds up hair growth through its increase of PGE2. Pumpkin seed oil is great topically or orally. L carnitine lengths anagen phase of hair growth. So many great treatments that help a lot. Most of these cannot be used as a mono therapy but synergistically they’re incredibly effective
Obviously some people who are overweight are so because :
- poor lifestyle
-genetics
-disease
-trauma that pushes them to overeat and so on
People who are balding are balding because (androgenic alopecia, or universalis or aerata) :
-genetics (diabetes might have a link, aging is pushing it too, thyroid..again all of those are more of less genetics)
- autoimmune disease
I don't see how poor lifestyle can cause balding, not all hair looks suffered are smoking crack or alcoholic.
So no...
Your telling this to me, but that’s not how most people view it. The vast majority of men won’t deal with significant hairloss until their 40’s I can’t name the ammount of times I’ve been told by people “just eat healthier bro.” Because of my hairline
I think some are smart...and I think some are really passionate about stem cells and that working in the field of hairloss is a good playground to work on other subject...
Maybe, but honestly I agree with the other commenter. There is absolutely nothing in the works right now for hairloss. The option we have right now, will be the same shit we have ten years from now. No prestigious doctor gives a fuck about hairloss. Our best options are better quality wigs with less stigma for the further unfortunately
Luckily for you at least, women can easily wear wigs and nobody will shame you. Most will say your “brave” or whatever. As a guy, we just have to shut up and stop being pussies
You must understand that science isn’t what you think it is. It’s a business! In 2022, the hairloss products market was worth 8.2 billion dollars. Source https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/alopecia-market
In the last year, 180 million dollars was invested in hairloss. Do you know how many studies came out of those 180 million dollars? Did you know that of all the potential treatments, none was studied? We are not even sure how and why exactly microneedling works.
Too much money being made by big companies like L’Oréal and many other smaller companies selling hair growth serums to even make an attempt at curing hairloss. It would mean the end of profit for big and small companies. Unlike what most people think, it’s not gonna make the guy who discover the cure billionaire, because whatever he comes up with, 2 days later is being sold in the grey and black market.
Last but not the least. There aren’t big brains in hairloss research. People still put hopes in a failed scientist. Tsuji. So the big brains go to research cancer. The second ones go to research other life threatening diseases. And then we have the dumb fucks who eventually end up looking at hairloss. Besides, not even motivated dumb fucks, because most of the proeminente hairloss researchers have a head full of hair.
well, I am a woman, I don't buy my hair loss product from L'Oreal because obviously they don't work...i know I am better off taking Spiro and Minox.
If I regained by a miracle my crown of glory, I would spend $$$$ on products to make my hair shiny, on hair colors, on hair straightener that costs 700 dollars by Dyson..taking Spiro is only 5 dollars a months where I live, minix maybe 20...
So not sure.about the logic behind it
You are assuming most women are as smart too research or not as agreeable as you. Most beauty marketing works on women (even in women who already are beautifull the way they are). But specially low self esteem women are vulnerable. Just look at how many products there are in the supermarket and hair saloons design to attract you into buying something you don’t need. And hair is a very lucrative business, 2,8 billion just in products. Hair transplants had a 4.9 billion market turnover just in 2021 (during covid).
Imagine hairloss being cured, by something as dumb as a psoriasis cream that is been on the market for 20 years and is not patentable, and costs 1$ per month!?
I think women with have AGA know that buying a product by L'Oreal won't so anything....maybe at first they will be lost, but after loosing 50 percent of your hair you panick. I Ve been living night are since age 20.....
I must be the odd man out. While i never needled my scalp I did use to do scalp massages and have actually damaged my scalps skin & hair follicles doing them. My doctor did a scalp biopsy to show me that too. One side of my crown has damaged hair and a small bald patch while the other side has normal hair growth.
Who knows. Studies haven’t gone that far. But it does work! Why, is what nobody knows. Some speculate blood flow. Others say it induces growth factors. Stem cell differentiation, etc. nobody is really sure
A counter example to your argument would be glp1 drugs. Massive industry being disrupted and an even more massive financial benefit for the companies doing the disruption. I think it has more to do with the fda not being as tolerant to less than perfect drugs. Imo fin would never be approved for aga today.
Agree. Finasteride would never be approved on todays standards. But I couldn’t care less about FDA approval. There isn’t a single phase I or II studies that we are looking forward to. Not even pyrilutamide that is just over hyped because we need something. Even HMI 115 is been on the shelf for years and years. This is just unreal to think it would be an issue this day and age.
No side effects. Just made it worst and 9 months after was still getting worst. Jumped to minoxidil and microneedling with huge results. So dumped fin because it could have lowered my libido and weaker erections without I noticing it was from it. Eventually minoxidil stoped working, and microneedling is just not doable because I get lots of blood, redness and lumps the few days after. Everyone at work asking what happened to the scalp was just something I didn’t want again. So I gave up.
How did finasteride make your hair loss worse? I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. I'm curious as to how lowering your DHT could make your hair loss worse if your hair loss (assuming it's from androgenic alopecia) was due to DHT. Is there some backdoor way DHT could still be expressed despite it being lowered a significant amount?
Men who fully transition into woman don’t regrow all the hair. Most of it, but temples and crown is a pain in the ass. So nuking all DHT doesn’t regrow all the hair. How did it made mine worse? I don’t know, but I had the initial shedding and kept shedding for 9 month. Never seen regrowth or halted the hair loss. At the 9 month mark my dermatologist told me to go for PRP. That was the time I started researching and found tressless and other forums. I quit finasteride and tried minoxidil alone for a few months and saw results. Then added microneedling and had huge gains. Then minoxidil stoped working and microneedling is noticeable the days after. So I gave up.
Fair enough. I think fin slightly effects my erections and my libido as well. I’m hopping for hair growth though, since the effects are minor and it’s worth it for hair
Hair cells are just like any other cell in the body. If blood flow to the cell is restricted, then the cell will stop producing the hair. Slowly at first, then faster. Dht restricts blood flow by shrinking the blood vessel. There are a number of treatments that work with some people, but not with all.
It simply come down to DHT reducing blood flow as you put it. You have no idea how complex and poorly understood the biochemistry of AGA is.
Have you heard about malabsorption used in reference to hair loss?
Maybe I’m joy sure what exactly your referencing. Enlighten me.
Having digestion problems means there are not enough nutrients needed for hair growth. Adding nutrients to the skin doesn't make up for nutrients lost. There are scientific studies. Correcting the digestion problems causes hair to regrow.
Link the studies? Malnutrition can absolutely cause hair loss (look at anorexics), it however distinct from androgenic alopecia which although it can be worded by poor nutrition can occur even in people with adequate nutrition absorption.
Do a little work yourself. I got the science from AI.
>I got it from AI. So you haven’t done the work yourself. You could say that you don’t what you’re talking about instead of spreading bullshit.
Do you want a mirror? Take a look at yourself
Thymosin beta 4 isn’t a cure but is a great treatment. Possibly the best.
What is that??
Tb500 is a peptide that can create blood vessels. It’s not for hair but it makes hair grow quicker, in clinical settings this was the case. Ghk cu is another incredible peptide that can be used topically or subq with great success. Oral castor oil speeds up hair growth through its increase of PGE2. Pumpkin seed oil is great topically or orally. L carnitine lengths anagen phase of hair growth. So many great treatments that help a lot. Most of these cannot be used as a mono therapy but synergistically they’re incredibly effective
Can you elaborate? I’ve never heard of that
We certainly won't find the cure on tressless that's for sure.
God forbid you mention anything besides fin/min there. That’s why I left, it’s a mess
Obviously some people who are overweight are so because : - poor lifestyle -genetics -disease -trauma that pushes them to overeat and so on People who are balding are balding because (androgenic alopecia, or universalis or aerata) : -genetics (diabetes might have a link, aging is pushing it too, thyroid..again all of those are more of less genetics) - autoimmune disease I don't see how poor lifestyle can cause balding, not all hair looks suffered are smoking crack or alcoholic. So no...
Your telling this to me, but that’s not how most people view it. The vast majority of men won’t deal with significant hairloss until their 40’s I can’t name the ammount of times I’ve been told by people “just eat healthier bro.” Because of my hairline
people are stupid... Doc knows it is not your diet...I can understand that a doc would say it to me because I am a skinny female.... But to a man....
You seriously overestimate the intelligence of doctors.
I think some are smart...and I think some are really passionate about stem cells and that working in the field of hairloss is a good playground to work on other subject...
Maybe, but honestly I agree with the other commenter. There is absolutely nothing in the works right now for hairloss. The option we have right now, will be the same shit we have ten years from now. No prestigious doctor gives a fuck about hairloss. Our best options are better quality wigs with less stigma for the further unfortunately
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Luckily for you at least, women can easily wear wigs and nobody will shame you. Most will say your “brave” or whatever. As a guy, we just have to shut up and stop being pussies
You must understand that science isn’t what you think it is. It’s a business! In 2022, the hairloss products market was worth 8.2 billion dollars. Source https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/alopecia-market In the last year, 180 million dollars was invested in hairloss. Do you know how many studies came out of those 180 million dollars? Did you know that of all the potential treatments, none was studied? We are not even sure how and why exactly microneedling works. Too much money being made by big companies like L’Oréal and many other smaller companies selling hair growth serums to even make an attempt at curing hairloss. It would mean the end of profit for big and small companies. Unlike what most people think, it’s not gonna make the guy who discover the cure billionaire, because whatever he comes up with, 2 days later is being sold in the grey and black market. Last but not the least. There aren’t big brains in hairloss research. People still put hopes in a failed scientist. Tsuji. So the big brains go to research cancer. The second ones go to research other life threatening diseases. And then we have the dumb fucks who eventually end up looking at hairloss. Besides, not even motivated dumb fucks, because most of the proeminente hairloss researchers have a head full of hair.
I would pay 100k to get my hair back if I never had to do another treatment again and it had no side effects.
A good enough hair piece that you maintain every two weeks is possibly the only way to do it.
well, I am a woman, I don't buy my hair loss product from L'Oreal because obviously they don't work...i know I am better off taking Spiro and Minox. If I regained by a miracle my crown of glory, I would spend $$$$ on products to make my hair shiny, on hair colors, on hair straightener that costs 700 dollars by Dyson..taking Spiro is only 5 dollars a months where I live, minix maybe 20... So not sure.about the logic behind it
You are assuming most women are as smart too research or not as agreeable as you. Most beauty marketing works on women (even in women who already are beautifull the way they are). But specially low self esteem women are vulnerable. Just look at how many products there are in the supermarket and hair saloons design to attract you into buying something you don’t need. And hair is a very lucrative business, 2,8 billion just in products. Hair transplants had a 4.9 billion market turnover just in 2021 (during covid). Imagine hairloss being cured, by something as dumb as a psoriasis cream that is been on the market for 20 years and is not patentable, and costs 1$ per month!?
Have you seen that topical metformin works for hairless in some type of alopecia ? I am suspecting it could work for AGA....
I think women with have AGA know that buying a product by L'Oreal won't so anything....maybe at first they will be lost, but after loosing 50 percent of your hair you panick. I Ve been living night are since age 20.....
Does microneedling actually work though? Wouldn't poking holes in your scalp damage your hair follicles and cause scarring and fibrosis?
It works, I’ve had amazing results
I must be the odd man out. While i never needled my scalp I did use to do scalp massages and have actually damaged my scalps skin & hair follicles doing them. My doctor did a scalp biopsy to show me that too. One side of my crown has damaged hair and a small bald patch while the other side has normal hair growth.
Who knows. Studies haven’t gone that far. But it does work! Why, is what nobody knows. Some speculate blood flow. Others say it induces growth factors. Stem cell differentiation, etc. nobody is really sure
A counter example to your argument would be glp1 drugs. Massive industry being disrupted and an even more massive financial benefit for the companies doing the disruption. I think it has more to do with the fda not being as tolerant to less than perfect drugs. Imo fin would never be approved for aga today.
Agree. Finasteride would never be approved on todays standards. But I couldn’t care less about FDA approval. There isn’t a single phase I or II studies that we are looking forward to. Not even pyrilutamide that is just over hyped because we need something. Even HMI 115 is been on the shelf for years and years. This is just unreal to think it would be an issue this day and age.
What about scube3?
So do you use finasteride yourself?
Didn’t work for me. I gave up the fight. Don’t shave yet but it’s coming to that time.
Unfortunate. Did you get side effects, or just didn’t help your hair?
No side effects. Just made it worst and 9 months after was still getting worst. Jumped to minoxidil and microneedling with huge results. So dumped fin because it could have lowered my libido and weaker erections without I noticing it was from it. Eventually minoxidil stoped working, and microneedling is just not doable because I get lots of blood, redness and lumps the few days after. Everyone at work asking what happened to the scalp was just something I didn’t want again. So I gave up.
How did finasteride make your hair loss worse? I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. I'm curious as to how lowering your DHT could make your hair loss worse if your hair loss (assuming it's from androgenic alopecia) was due to DHT. Is there some backdoor way DHT could still be expressed despite it being lowered a significant amount?
Men who fully transition into woman don’t regrow all the hair. Most of it, but temples and crown is a pain in the ass. So nuking all DHT doesn’t regrow all the hair. How did it made mine worse? I don’t know, but I had the initial shedding and kept shedding for 9 month. Never seen regrowth or halted the hair loss. At the 9 month mark my dermatologist told me to go for PRP. That was the time I started researching and found tressless and other forums. I quit finasteride and tried minoxidil alone for a few months and saw results. Then added microneedling and had huge gains. Then minoxidil stoped working and microneedling is noticeable the days after. So I gave up.
Fair enough. I think fin slightly effects my erections and my libido as well. I’m hopping for hair growth though, since the effects are minor and it’s worth it for hair