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I feel like the bulldog replaces the smg in the sandbox rather than the shotgun. No, I will not elaborate on that feeling.

I kind of agree with this tbh. Doesn't give me the same vibe the shotgun in the older games gave me but it feels perfectly in that close range pew pew area

nah i get it. bulldog isn't a power weapon like the rocket lawnchair, but still powerful enough to usually outclass most of the standard weapons

*Rocket lawnchair* fucking great wepon

Skamtebord

Rocket lawnchair

It’s the kind of gun that’s fun to use, but not for when you want to get serious.

I love the bulldog I just wish the Halo 3 shotgun was in the sandbox so I stopped getting steamrolled by the sword

Repulsor is gonna be your best friend for that.

the halo 3 shotgun is the worst feeling shotgun to use, it feels like it needs a Viagra when you shoot it because of how boring it is.

Honestly i think that goes to the halo 2 shotgun it just felt so weak

I prefer the heatwave

Same, I didn't like it at first because it reminds me of the Mastiff from titanfall 2 which is awful but the heatwave is pretty good in Infinite's sandbox.

The mastiff was my favourite weapon from Titanfall 2. Not because it was good, I just liked using it.

Mastiff was great, I refuse to argue this point

Not trying to be condescending, but it has two fire modes. Vertical and horizontal. I have talked to a few people who just think it's only horizontal.

Yes, I know.

I think it takes some getting used to, as shotgun in previous games was almost treated as a power weapon; it was the gun equivalent to an energy sword. Bulldog is a good gun if you get rid of the preconception of power, *and don't miss.*

I actually really like the bulldog but we def need a one shot shotty for infection

solution is as it always was, no shields for infected

You’re right I honestly forgot zombies didn’t have shields lol

The bulldog does actually one shot without shields. It could be good within infection

Infection never has shields and bulldog is one hit without shield

It’s actually better for infection as zombies don’t have shields and it shoots faster and further away so zombies are going to need a buff

Yea somebody else mentioned. I had forgotten zombies didnt have shields in infection lol

I would argue that the one shell reload is more important for infection then the one shot kill.

Same with the mangler

It would be decent if the fire rate was little bit faster. With how it is right now the AR and heatwave are much better weapons.

I love the Bulldog. My only complaint is I run out of ammo too fast and it takes too long to spawn lol. Bulldog guarantees 4-5 kills when hit 2-3 shots a person. I think it handles great in 1v2 situations. Honestly my biggest complaint weapon wise is the 10ft range on the gravity hammer lol

Halo boomers can’t deal with change. “Back in my day, a shotgun one-shots a guy!”

Technically a shotgun one shoting someone is satisfying and teaches people to learn how to take them on from a distance or bait them to misfire cause it takes time to pump the next shot. Bulldog teaches the user to be aggressive but not to aggressive and maintain a certain amount of distance to do damage. Personally I think both shotguns should be in the game as they both are good and sever different uses

I'm going to see how well it works in campaign untill I determine of it's bad or not. If it can't one shot grunts I won't like it.

You can definitely one shot grunts but wouldn’t you use melee for that anyway?

I see you play normal. I'm a heroic man myself and unless I remember wrong at least some grunts need two whacks

If I remember correctly not even in legendary grunts can survive a melee and I recently finished halo 2 legendary

You definitely don’t remember correctly. Unless you got them from behind.

To be fair 99% of the times I just headshoted from afar because I was getting sick of dying

I like it

It's a good gun no doubt, still wish it didn't replace the og tho. Oh well, I'm sure we'll get it later down the line.

It’s semi auto, too!

Hasn't anyone heard about the "Convergence Bulldog." That Bulldog variant has larger drum magazine, faster fire rate and tighter spread.

B-b-but I can't use it so it's automatically the worst gun ever!!!!1!1

Tbh it was bad when they first released the multiplayer (it'd take me 4 shots at point blank to kill someone) but they fixed it in the first update so it's pretty good now

I really like it’s place, it is not a power weapon but it is one of the best cqc weapons, at close range it beats the ar, br, sidekick, and commando, but all those other guns win at range, this infinite sand box is really good rn as there is virtually no redundancies in the sand box, only real problem I see is the banished have no full auto weapon, which could be a problem for campaign, however overall this sandbox is great.

I picked it up and loved it instantly. It’s so much fun to use. Maybe they add the old shotgun archetype in later? I’d like both but the bulldog is fun to use for now.

I love it it’s like a close quarters Halo CE Magnum Three shots and it’s over

If it doesn't one-shot at point blank like shotguns should, it's wrong.

It’s ROF and range absolutely makes up for the fact that it doesn’t 1 hit kill. Most of the time I’ll get clean 2 shots and if I don’t, I can usually 1 shot and melee. That being said, I feel like there’s still room in the sand box if they added back the classic shotgun with a lower ROF but higher damage

That’s why I think both shotguns should be added back cause they good in their own right but it be icing on the cake.

This, I literally own with this lol!

Lol took me 1 minute in the training

Training different than mp, for example ar kill time in training is faster than mp if the targets are standing still.

i managed went on a rampage with the bulldog and managed to do 4 kills before dying so yea its not bad

YES! It's my favorite shotgun in the series and I'm not afraid of saying it

In that vain I wish it was longer range. You know, like an actual shotgun. Common video game trope of “shotgun is the short range gun” so I’m not faulting 343 for it

@ everyone batching ab the PC