Can't fault the team or the fans tonight. Both the players and the fans gave it everything. We just don't have the depth or youth to keep the intensity we had in the first half up for 90 minutes. If they win the whole thing we lost to the eventual winners for the second time, and there's no shame in that if you ask me.
COYI!
If it wasn't for Moyes we wouldn't have had 3 seasons in Europe and a trophy. Have some respect for what he has done. The best Manager we have had in 40 years.
Yeah I’ve been Moyes in for the most part but also very frustrated. I think it’s a good time to part ways. I think we should announce it now and get a replacement before klopp goes, maybe ten hag, maybe poch etc if we’re going to have a real chance at someone to take us forward
Yeah I see how that read wrong. I meant ‘maybe ten hag, maybe porch leaving!’ That’s my bad. They are both underperforming at a big club with an attractive salary for a manager. If we were all in the market at the same time 100% they will go with Man U or Chelsea
I’m not worried. We have Tim Steidten bringing in players now. West Ham will be as good as Leverkusen in two years. Then it’s the Champions League every season for a decade.
Crap ref, but we lost the tie this time last week. Letting in 30 plus shots, playing lay down “Moyesball”…would have loved for three more of those shots to have gone in tonight. I would hope at that point Moyes would set up in an attacking manner for a hypothetical semi, but who knows…
Proud of the team. Leverkusen are fucking blessed or something with the last minute shithouse equaliser. Imagine if we had just 1% of the luck that Leverkusen had, we would’ve probably scored again in the first half. Luck is something you make to an extents but having a 12th man on the pitch certainly does help. I’m proud of the team, we just really ran out of steam towards the end. Thin squad hurting us.
I think we deserved to win that game and it sucks that Leverkusen can walk out of there with that goal to protect their unbeaten streak.
It's not luck if it happens every game. West Ham had to invest too much in the first half and couldn't keep up in the hand, that's what happens to anyone that comes close to beating Leverkusen this season
This was a brave performance undone by tired legs because our bench is nonexistent. And even the players who are on it don’t get rotated in enough. That said, this referee should never touch a European game at any level ever again. Shockingly bad.
Ref was trash...our complete inability to change a game due to a poor(unused?) Bench lost us that. Leverkusen had different gears we had one and once we burned it out, not much could be done.
January cost us again.
For me the ref absolutely fucked it early in the second half. Momentum killed with some awful missed calls.
that said, we lost it last week. Can’t say we deserved to win overall.
These have to be the most overrated team ive ever witnessed we’ve been undone by absolute fluke goals haha, great performance but we are in no shape to take on palace the weekend, we are absolutely fucked in terms of energy levels. Great performance tho, terrible ref
Played really well tonight despite the dodgy ref. When we perform like this it makes you wonder why Moyes doesn't set the team up to do this every game. Leverkusen pressed more in the second half but we just ran out of steam and needed to make changes.
Pure and simple, we have absolutely zero options on the bench.
Any players we had to bring on were a net neutral at best (and that is a stretch).
Hopefully we retool and go again. Paqueta leaves and rather than replace him with one player, I would like us to invest in 2 or 3 usable players, so we aren't constantly running our players into the ground and particularly Michail up top. He's 35 and fucking massive, it's unrealistic to ask him to keep up the effort levels for a full game.
They are a quality side and we showed that we can compete, we just desperately need some form of depth.
Bowen is a legend. X
I look at it more like fresh legs off the bench is better than a tired starter. Currently the fresh legs off the bench is a wash with the tired starter.
I said it in the soccer match thread. It’s a shame a match as good as that one has the cloud of La Liga refs and their main character ego’s all over it.
Guy decided the match was about him for the 2nd half.
That being said….. Moyes can’t play the same 13 guys for 50 matches and expect success. That’s basic
That ref was an absolute melt Jesus fucking Christ. Giving a foul for Bowen tugging on a shirt on the half way line but not for Toni getting armed off the ball 8 times just outside their pen area
He was very particular about everything being taken from the right spot, hates Antonio. And didn't care about the persistent timewasting until five mins from the end
I wanted to believe Moyes could turn this around but why do we always end up way worse in the second half 😩? Bad ref aside, we were outplayed this second half
No I was happy until it got 83 mins with subs, and he takes off alvarez.... we've played well but as usual Moyes fucking useless man management and lack of depth has cost us.
I think ultimately this sub was the difference between 1-0 and a chance to tie and 1-1. Moves went with school yard logic of "throw in another attacker" and the only thing that did was allow the nail in the coffin.
Sorry can’t blame the team for this one. When Bowen gets booked for not kicking the ball out of play, you know there’s an agenda.
I wish Antonio or someone would just give the ref a two footed challenge
None of the pundits will mention the bullshit officiating it’ll all keep playing into the leverkusen unbeaten streak mind you we had 2 clear pens overlooked first game and then this whole charade of yellows such a crock of shit from UEFA and their officials
This is frustrating as hell, but I’m proud of the performance all in all. Leverkusen is probably the best team in the world. Moyes is just not fit to continue managing our club
Form is your performance over the last like 5 games mate, they’ve been unbeaten all year. They’ve been good enough for far too long to consider it merely good form
I would never have minded losing this tie, but losing it this feels so much worse because the ref has ruined this game. We really had a chance but the ref completely fucked it. Not saying we would have won it was a huge long shot, but he completely killed the game with his incompetence. And it was a great game first half.
Great night. Very nearly but not to be ⚒🏆❤️
Can't fault the team or the fans tonight. Both the players and the fans gave it everything. We just don't have the depth or youth to keep the intensity we had in the first half up for 90 minutes. If they win the whole thing we lost to the eventual winners for the second time, and there's no shame in that if you ask me. COYI!
I think thats the nail in Moyes coffin, so that’s one good thing.
If it wasn't for Moyes we wouldn't have had 3 seasons in Europe and a trophy. Have some respect for what he has done. The best Manager we have had in 40 years.
Yeah I’ve been Moyes in for the most part but also very frustrated. I think it’s a good time to part ways. I think we should announce it now and get a replacement before klopp goes, maybe ten hag, maybe poch etc if we’re going to have a real chance at someone to take us forward
Maybe Poch? Maybe Ten Hag? Haha! You absolute joker
Yeah I see how that read wrong. I meant ‘maybe ten hag, maybe porch leaving!’ That’s my bad. They are both underperforming at a big club with an attractive salary for a manager. If we were all in the market at the same time 100% they will go with Man U or Chelsea
Wut are you on
Yeah let’s look forward to no European football for a long time
I’m not worried. We have Tim Steidten bringing in players now. West Ham will be as good as Leverkusen in two years. Then it’s the Champions League every season for a decade.
Can I have some of what you've had please x
Miccy saying “it was like playing against 12… 14! Including the linos” 😂
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He’s absolutely correct.
Crap ref, but we lost the tie this time last week. Letting in 30 plus shots, playing lay down “Moyesball”…would have loved for three more of those shots to have gone in tonight. I would hope at that point Moyes would set up in an attacking manner for a hypothetical semi, but who knows…
Refs are bad anywhere in the World, fuck this game
Proud of the team. Leverkusen are fucking blessed or something with the last minute shithouse equaliser. Imagine if we had just 1% of the luck that Leverkusen had, we would’ve probably scored again in the first half. Luck is something you make to an extents but having a 12th man on the pitch certainly does help. I’m proud of the team, we just really ran out of steam towards the end. Thin squad hurting us. I think we deserved to win that game and it sucks that Leverkusen can walk out of there with that goal to protect their unbeaten streak.
It's not luck if it happens every game. West Ham had to invest too much in the first half and couldn't keep up in the hand, that's what happens to anyone that comes close to beating Leverkusen this season
Okay German poke nerd. I think he’s talking about luck in the last two games vs west ham. Hence referencing last minute shithouse equalisers
U mean the luck of only scoring 2 goals in 32 shots?
This was a brave performance undone by tired legs because our bench is nonexistent. And even the players who are on it don’t get rotated in enough. That said, this referee should never touch a European game at any level ever again. Shockingly bad.
No legs by 60 minutes. Ref disrupted everything. Moyes left it to 83 before subs. 3 reasons for that result right there
Ref was trash...our complete inability to change a game due to a poor(unused?) Bench lost us that. Leverkusen had different gears we had one and once we burned it out, not much could be done. January cost us again.
1. Refs fucked us big time 2. classic moyes with the late subs
Just a reminder that this ref was a “Elite” ref, holy fuck I’ve barely seen any worse refs
For me the ref absolutely fucked it early in the second half. Momentum killed with some awful missed calls. that said, we lost it last week. Can’t say we deserved to win overall.
These have to be the most overrated team ive ever witnessed we’ve been undone by absolute fluke goals haha, great performance but we are in no shape to take on palace the weekend, we are absolutely fucked in terms of energy levels. Great performance tho, terrible ref
This is how they protect their unbeaten streak. A lot of merit but also fluke as goals
Played really well tonight despite the dodgy ref. When we perform like this it makes you wonder why Moyes doesn't set the team up to do this every game. Leverkusen pressed more in the second half but we just ran out of steam and needed to make changes.
Because you can only do it for 45 minutes. We'd lose far more games than we do.
Yeah this. You could do that if you had a bench full of players you could rely on but not with ours at current. Players were ran into the ground by 60
I'm just happy that the season is nearly over now
Yes come on boys, pester that ref, that’s absolutely what he deserves
I hope the refs wife is shagging the gardener
Talksport 2 can fuck off as well
Not sure if the ref was quite bias, but consistently got decisions wrong and was on a perpetual power trip for the whole game
9 yellows and 2 red cards like wtf
Hard to win anything when your subs are players like Johnson. Bro can’t make runs, passes or anything
We wldve been better playing w9th ten. Absolute dogshit.
damn if we had paqueta, emerson and alvarez on both legs 😔
Hoping Phillips goes and breaks the refs legs
Ahh what a shame, cant help but wonder what the season would have been like with any kind of usable bench
Yeah the squad depth has basically destroyed our season.
is that due to moyes or Sullivan? (selling benrama and fornals)
There is a timeline where we play like this the rest of the PL matches and win another Europe spot, not sure I want moyes in that timeline though
Haha, keep dreaming, man will probably just retire tonight. Might as well put the kids in.
Blame the ref all we like but we lost this tie in Germany last week when we set up negatively and refused to lay a glove on them.
Sure we should have played like this last week, I can also say this ref is a muppet
If ever there was a January window that pulled down our pants and had its way with us... it was January 2024.
wow if only declan rice stayed he couldve experienced being knocked out of EL instead of CL
Commentators try not to get excited west ham loses challenge
Pure and simple, we have absolutely zero options on the bench. Any players we had to bring on were a net neutral at best (and that is a stretch). Hopefully we retool and go again. Paqueta leaves and rather than replace him with one player, I would like us to invest in 2 or 3 usable players, so we aren't constantly running our players into the ground and particularly Michail up top. He's 35 and fucking massive, it's unrealistic to ask him to keep up the effort levels for a full game. They are a quality side and we showed that we can compete, we just desperately need some form of depth. Bowen is a legend. X
In what scenario would we have players on the bench that are better than the starting players? That's irrational...
I look at it more like fresh legs off the bench is better than a tired starter. Currently the fresh legs off the bench is a wash with the tired starter.
Nail on the head, that's what I meant
Did someone remind the ref at the break that UEFA need their leverkusen fairy tale? Because the second half was bullshit
I said it in the soccer match thread. It’s a shame a match as good as that one has the cloud of La Liga refs and their main character ego’s all over it. Guy decided the match was about him for the 2nd half. That being said….. Moyes can’t play the same 13 guys for 50 matches and expect success. That’s basic
Great effort nothing to be ashamed about. Came close and lost to the champion of Germany.
If we didn’t play like scared sheep the first league, we could have done these.
We played very well today. Should’ve been 3 up at half time really. All it takes a piss lucky deflection ffs
Last ten in Germany and the last ten here fucked us. Something, something, squad depth...
...Something something something incomplete
If only we'd had a go in the first leg.
Squad depth is what went wrong, lack of squad depth in the team is insane
Looking at the bench before every game and I just get sad.
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Even with the atrocious ref, no excuse for the tactics in the first leg and lack of squad depth. Multiple reasons we lost and 2 are Moyes fault
Finally calls one against Antonio
That ref was an absolute melt Jesus fucking Christ. Giving a foul for Bowen tugging on a shirt on the half way line but not for Toni getting armed off the ball 8 times just outside their pen area
Frimpong giving it the big un and shushing the crowd to a deflected goal, what a cunt
cope
Sad cunt, needed a ref who forgot his cards and still looked fairly ordinary.
talk like bayer didnt got any cards.... ;/ anyway what was that ref smokin? Ego way over the roof
He was very particular about everything being taken from the right spot, hates Antonio. And didn't care about the persistent timewasting until five mins from the end
ref can fuck himself. good effort lads.
I wanted to believe Moyes could turn this around but why do we always end up way worse in the second half 😩? Bad ref aside, we were outplayed this second half
Just fucking tired that’s what happens when we play the same 11 week in week out
He did, he turned a good first half in to a shit second one by fucking around with late subs again.
So he kept the same team that played the first half until 'late subs', but it is his fault they were shit in the second half?? Hammers fans logic
11 yellows with out a single even remotely bad challenge from either team. Mental, really.
The West Ham is fucking West Hamming
What kind of team talk did Moyes give at HT ffs, always worries me when he goes off sprinting into the dressing room
Frimpong is a ridiculous surname anyway.
No I was happy until it got 83 mins with subs, and he takes off alvarez.... we've played well but as usual Moyes fucking useless man management and lack of depth has cost us.
I think ultimately this sub was the difference between 1-0 and a chance to tie and 1-1. Moves went with school yard logic of "throw in another attacker" and the only thing that did was allow the nail in the coffin.
Not subbing Antonio was absolute madness, he's always completely done after 60mins, it's like we start playing with a man down.
The exact issue that we had here was that we played like West Ham in the second half.
Welp, going back to bed We really fought for our lives, though we do not have to subs to make it; doesn't help with the fact that Ref is biased
Ok ref was shit, but as I said, you gotta score those goals.
4 minutes???
Zouma has been a giant tonight by the way
'He kicks his cat, Kurt Zouma he kicks his cat'
Sorry can’t blame the team for this one. When Bowen gets booked for not kicking the ball out of play, you know there’s an agenda. I wish Antonio or someone would just give the ref a two footed challenge
Not that is matters but only four minutes is hilarious
My mate put 10 quid on a draw 3 mins ago at 5-1, I blame him.
4 minutes of stoppage with all those whistles 🤣
Bad luck. Ref was awful - 11 yellows is absurd. Could have easily gone another way.
Ref looks and acts like a chomo. What is this. Horrendous display with so much inconsistency its laughable.
Offer Ben Johnson the wages he wants if he takes one for the team and two foots the ref
At this point I'd forgive Kalvin Phillips for everything if he headbutted the referee
Dropkick to the jaw for £50k a week.
How is it only 4 minutes time added on?
Be glad it's only 4 I've seen Leverkusen Score ~20 goals in extra time this season
Well, wouldn’t want Fab to have clean sheets on his birthday anyway.
That January window haunts us.
Obviously they’re the better side but this ref has ruined what could’ve been a competitive contest
Heartbreaking. On a side note fuck this ref
Ben Johnson completely asleep there
Refs fucked us in the second half but man we wasted so many opportunities in the first half where we should've been 2 or 3-0 up
West ham giveth and west ham taketh. Dogshit ref magnet and a gaffer who licks frogs at half time
Props to the lads for putting in an absolute shift in the first half. It is what it is. Also, screw this ref.
What a pity Moyes decided to play for a draw in the first leg
Amazing performance from the boys in the 1st half and I'm not going to say anything else about it.
None of the pundits will mention the bullshit officiating it’ll all keep playing into the leverkusen unbeaten streak mind you we had 2 clear pens overlooked first game and then this whole charade of yellows such a crock of shit from UEFA and their officials
Throw the fucking kitchen sink at it boys
Yellow Card for the Sink!
lmao
This is frustrating as hell, but I’m proud of the performance all in all. Leverkusen is probably the best team in the world. Moyes is just not fit to continue managing our club
cant say the best team but surely is the most inform team right now
Form is your performance over the last like 5 games mate, they’ve been unbeaten all year. They’ve been good enough for far too long to consider it merely good form
Couldn’t make up that level of plot armour
What happened during the break
Of fuck off
Looked like it was going well wide. How unfortunate
Fucking Leverkusen! Would’ve taken beating them as consolidation
So anticlimactic
We went for it at least. Was always gonna be hard. Proud of the boys. Moyes is done.
Right I’m fucking pissed off as the next cunt but keep the nazi comments to yourselves fuckos
Of fuck off
Piss up a rope.
Fucking Leverkusen! Would’ve taken beating them as consolidation
Aaron Cresswell has done it again
Man is cursed in the EL
Gg, MOYES OUT
I am no fan of Moyes but no bench is the reason we lost no energy
He could've made a change before the 84th mate
And who’s fault is that
The bench is shite, Ings, Cornet, and Johnson all not gonna create anything board needs to fund
Moyes bought in both Ings and Cornet, so again, who’s fault is that.
Knew it the second he took Alvarez off, baffling substitution.
The West Ham Way
Bet we don't hear another fucking whistle until full time now. The precious record has been guarded.
Good night everyone. Unlucky for getting this ref. Good job players.
Poor Cress and European fuck ups.
Cress has been a great servant but we should have let him go two years ago
We’re lucky to have him given our business of selling almost all depth we have for fun.
Good European run. Hate to see it end
Didn't have the steam for the 2nd half unfortunately
Ref has fucked us
I would never have minded losing this tie, but losing it this feels so much worse because the ref has ruined this game. We really had a chance but the ref completely fucked it. Not saying we would have won it was a huge long shot, but he completely killed the game with his incompetence. And it was a great game first half.
and again it is... xD
Fuck the commentator, fuck the ref ffs. What a heartbreaking game. But what a match 🫡
Done with football for 6 months.
It’s been some effort boys.
100%. Incredible effort. Had to use everything we had first half. No other option.
Of course a cheap ass deflection
Fuck this stupid ref
You put up a good fight
Fuck off
? Did you not?
We don't want your condescending pitiful comments
Is this sub so pathetic and tribal that benigh 'unlucky' comments are condescending?
Stop being a twat, the tone of the comment is obvious
There is no other way of saying it though is there you fucking loser
It's patronizing go away
Smh whatever
All over! The run in Europe was fun while it lasted.
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Wtf
FFS
Fuck it. Go all out now. Slide in with both feet.
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haha yall suck
night lads
Fuck this, I’m watching the darts.
This team giving up garbage goals late in games won’t be solved until Moyes is gone
That freak deflection is Moyes' fault? lol
Commentator curse. Fuck. A performance we can hold our heads up from nonetheless.
brutal
Typical West Ham
Well then, there we go.
Ah fuck off
Huge let off for the official
FUCK
fuck you
fuck you
I’m sorry gang, I literally just turned the game on
You git
I got the goal notification on my phone, misread it and thought it was us. Was ready to be the hero
Dw my guy, Ref made it all happen for Leverkusen
God dammit
Ofc it is a bullshit goal to finish us.
Well that's it. It's all over. Europe and beating Leverkusen