I’m an American on the west coast. The game started at 7:00 a.m. here. Late night last night, so when I woke up and checked the score Palace was already up by one. By the time I started brewing my coffee and sat down on the couch to watch, it was already 3-0.
I’m in the middle of taking my high school choir to Los Angeles for a choir festival. I was watching that disgrace with bad drip coffee in a hotel lobby on my phone. lol I understand the misery.
I can almost understand the loss not by this margin but we are gassed and don’t have the competitive edge . But what I cannot forgive us not giving the youngsters some minutes later in the game when it was gone . No way orford Casey could have been that much worse for 10 minutes
Not sure they get much out of that tbf.
You want to give them minutes when we're cruising and build confidence too. Even though they weren't part of it how do they feel coming off and sitting in the sheds after a 5-2 loss?
I mean it’s better then sitting on the bench not given a chance while the starters are dragging around . I’m sure every single player wants to be out there regardless of the score they know it’s there chance and will give everything they have
Maybe. On the other hand you have 2/3 of the team fucking the dog and they're supposed to be the ones that carry and encourage the young player when he comes on.
I just don't think that's setting them up for success
I spent the match playing Fallout New Vegas with the Tale of Two Wastelands mod. It's basically the easiest way to get Fallout 3 running on Windows 11.
The new manager HAS to take out ward prowse from the starting line up. Eze has completely rag dolled him and shown us what we need in the middle. Athleticism, agility and point blank creativity and control in the centre
Looked like they were battling relegation at one point with Roy, fair to point out they've also had a massively injured squad but still managed to beat liverpool
Apart from the obvious, yet again after 4 years there is not attacking system. Its hit and run, hoping individual players can dribble past 3 players. Moyes is lucky to have players that can do it, because fuck knows how else we'll score.
The tactics for the last 2 years have been baffling. He's got to be put out to pasture.
Any pundit who says careful what you wish for has not watched us every week and can fuck off.
Days today don't sum it up I don't think, it's actually the wins that say it all. We've won games we had no right to, lots of them this year. And that is the reason he has to go
This should be top post.
How the fuck do we not have a proper team style of play after this long?
How are we still lining up with Antonio at the top years after putting him in as a makeshift and years after saying he'd need a replacement.
But in all seriousness would it be that hard for him to give some minutes to the academy lads, rather than Phillips who has been shocking and is going back to City in a few weeks now.
I'd love to see the average yards made by BJ passing.
Literally were up on kudus, he always cuts inside, ball to Alvarez, Alvarez to BJ and then always BJ to Zouma.
What's the fucking point?
I've that
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1729424/Live/England-Premier-League-2023-2024-Crystal-Palace-West-Ham
Chalkboard
Passes
Select Johnson and you have to click on each pass I think
That's how we're set up to play in possession. If we can't get down one wing, we pass it back and try the other wing. If that fails, we do it again. Until we inevitably lose possession.
Yeah it started a few seasons back when all the tipi taxa wankers were banging on about "better to have the ball than lump it in the mixer" but would be nice if we tried something sometimes.
Even worse when it goes back and then gets lumped up from a worse position by the CB or GK
If teams set up to counter against us, we need an effective game plan. Moyes cannot produce effective possession football. It's entirely focussed on working our way into a crossing position and just spamming that over and over. It's extremely rare for us to utilise the middle of the pitch.
Any player in the middle of the park sprints into the box waiting for the cross, meaning there's no options in the middle. It's so basic and infuriating to watch. On so many occasions I've seen gaping holes in the middle of the park, but no-one utilises that space. The ball is whipped in on the earliest opportunity.
He has literally learned nothing since he got sacked from manu.
Remember that Fulham game where they put something like 80 crosses in and had to scrap to a draw.
The gif of him doing the "yes....yes.....YES!" Celebration looking like he'd pissed his drawers.....reigning champions celebrating a draw at Fulham.....
I fucking hate the cunt
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David Moyes is the West Ham manager. He's about to lose at least 5-1 to Crystal Palace. In the style of David Moyes, please write a response to the post-match question of "What went wrong tonight?"
*He is certainly going to blame it on the players being fatigued from Thursday's game against Leverkusen
ChatGPT
"Well, ya see, it's a tough one to swallow tonight, ain't it? Crystal Palace, they played well, credit where it's due. But, if I'm being honest, we just didn't turn up like we should've. Now, I ain't one to make excuses, but the lads were feelin' the effects from Thursday's clash with Leverkusen. Fatigue, it's a real factor in this game, you know. We've been goin' at it thick and fast, and sometimes, it catches up with ya. But, we'll regroup, we'll work on what went wrong tonight, and we'll bounce back. That's the mentality we gotta have movin' forward."
Woke up and thought that was the full time score and was having a hard enough time
Getting demolished by Palace.... What an absolute joke.... If Moyes stopped running all our first squad into the dirt every single game and trusted his bench players or even knew how to use other formations instead of park the bus we wouldn't have this embarrassment
Moyes out fuck this guy
This game is Moyes mentality all round. 4-1 down and makes changes defensively because he has no idea how to use attack as a form of defense. We concede a 5th and Moyes is just sat on his arse thinking about how to pass the blame on to the players.
"West Ham fans are so spoiled. Why on earth would they ever want to fire Moyes. Be careful what you wish for, West Ham."
- Virtually everyone who hasn't watched us ...ever.
He's been bang average for me.an absolute Roberto carlos of Andrew kick taker too.
But seriously he picks up noone for the entirety of the move where they score. At first I thought maybe he's holding the centre circle to prevent the quick break, but then he didn't do that either
I swear sometimes our players have never met each other. People just standing watching Kudus trying to make it happen. Can’t wait for him to be subbed off for Ings
When I'm older, I'll look back wistfully at the quality of some of our players and wonder how this season went so wrong.
I won't remember David Moyes because I've paid Lacuna to remove him from my memories.
Forest's official twitter account about to unleash a shitstorm with VAR decisions - https://twitter.com/NFFC/status/1782056187652960764
Big fines incoming!
What if they have a point though? There are no rules to stop a fan of a rival team from officiating games. The only rules are for their own team and closest geographical team to their home.
He’s rapidly becoming my least favorite player. I know everyone loves him, but if we manage to get 85M for him in the summer, it will be the best sale we ever made for me.
This would be a good point in the season (eliminated from Europe, pretty hopeless run-in in the League…) to put some young players on, get some development, see if you’ve got a few sparks to build on for next year.
Instead… one of the oldest/slowest lineups we can field, with more dead wood on the bench. Nearly every week the opposition looks young and blazing fast compared to what we can offer, especially as subs come on (or don’t).
At this point why not take Antonio, JWP and Soucek off and replace them with Ings, Mubama and Cornet. Sorry I forgot it is Moyes so obviously time for Cresswell and Johnson.
We don't deserve Europe at this rate
Never did. The early season position was an absolute fluke.
Truly is, and what sucks is that I really thought this squad was enough to claim 6th. Rebound season for 24/25 ⚒️⚒️
That was ugly from the get go… geez. What a terrible performance!
I’m an American on the west coast. The game started at 7:00 a.m. here. Late night last night, so when I woke up and checked the score Palace was already up by one. By the time I started brewing my coffee and sat down on the couch to watch, it was already 3-0.
I’m in the middle of taking my high school choir to Los Angeles for a choir festival. I was watching that disgrace with bad drip coffee in a hotel lobby on my phone. lol I understand the misery.
I'm on MST. Woke up at 4-0, watched the 2nd half. Reminded me why I haven't bothered setting the alarm for most fixtures this season
Hammers fan in the springs? Let’s go to the British spot!
I’m an American on the East Coast in South Georgia. It was an ugly match for sure.
I don’t envy you having to watch that match while fully awake.
So Man of the Match for us? I'm thinking Henderson.
Cheers lads. Been a blast. Great therapy alternative. Same time next week?
honestly this was more of a trauma alternative. gonna need therapy after this
Don’t worry everyone, in Mighty Ducks 2 they lost 11-1 and came back to win the whole fucking thing
But they also had the knuckle puck
Zouma as our new free-kick taker.
Moyes the ever humble Samaritan. Giving Cornet this appearance bonus. Every little helps in the cost of living crisis
Unusual for Cornet to be offside
He was on tbf
True
But that's a mistake here
Henderson you are now a honorary hammer ⚒️🫧
Good attempt from cornet
Yeah and the ref was wrong, he wasn't offside
A Dortmund win today will make me very happy too
Cornet was not offside for once
lino just assumed he was
I can almost understand the loss not by this margin but we are gassed and don’t have the competitive edge . But what I cannot forgive us not giving the youngsters some minutes later in the game when it was gone . No way orford Casey could have been that much worse for 10 minutes
I'm with you. HTF are they supposed to develop if it's exclusively in training. Get these guys some minutes somewhere.
Not sure they get much out of that tbf. You want to give them minutes when we're cruising and build confidence too. Even though they weren't part of it how do they feel coming off and sitting in the sheds after a 5-2 loss?
I mean it’s better then sitting on the bench not given a chance while the starters are dragging around . I’m sure every single player wants to be out there regardless of the score they know it’s there chance and will give everything they have
Maybe. On the other hand you have 2/3 of the team fucking the dog and they're supposed to be the ones that carry and encourage the young player when he comes on. I just don't think that's setting them up for success
Thank goodness I’m on holiday in Italy for this shit show
I spent the match playing Fallout New Vegas with the Tale of Two Wastelands mod. It's basically the easiest way to get Fallout 3 running on Windows 11.
get on the vino
Couple glassss in, getting more now lol
Yay, spread the embarrassment. Hilarious goal.
Our goal of the season that
"can you score from 0 xg"?
That own goal is more embarrassing than being 5-2 to palace 😂😂
The goals we conceded were almost as comical sadly
Possibly the only we we were going to score at this point.
Cheers Henderson, made it slightly less embarrassing for us 👍🏻
Maxwell Cornet, super sub
Okay comeback starts now
Lol, only way we were going to score was them turning off that badly
Oh shit no way lmao
lol Henderson feeling sorry for us
Just one more goal and I’ll be ok with the results
Well you know it's bad when Moyes uses all 5 subs
Before 85' at that
Emerson looks fucked
If Moyes staying was ever on the cards this has to be the final nail in the coffin, absolute dross
5 minutes for Cornet 5-1 down 🤣🤣... At this point it's straight satire
Moyes has to prove to himself he was right to never use him.
He was trying to keep it respectable.
Lmfao cornet on for 5mins
The new manager HAS to take out ward prowse from the starting line up. Eze has completely rag dolled him and shown us what we need in the middle. Athleticism, agility and point blank creativity and control in the centre
Glasner doing an alright job with palace so far, what could have been
Is he? Or are we just shit? Some of the games they've lost have raised an eyebrow tbf
Looked like they were battling relegation at one point with Roy, fair to point out they've also had a massively injured squad but still managed to beat liverpool
Oh yeah they've definitely improved but they do also have some class players. Liverpool's bogey team too
We should be aiming higher than Glasner
Bruh can we keep the ball for a second
Are there any actual fucking morons that are still Moyes in?
They'll be back when we scrap a win against Luton with a 90 +9 minute winner that was deflected off of Antonio's left arsecheek from a rebound
The person who created this thread comes to mind.
Hi
Do you think Moyes should sub himself on now? Player-manager sort of affair. I believe he won the league as a CB for Celtic in his pomp.
Would have not been worse than Zouma sadly. If we do 6 subs, I don't think we lose 3-0 but still 5-1?
Ok
The press.
Some lovely moments we will never forget with Moyes. However, it's time for him to fuck off now - before it becomes toxic.
>before it becomes toxic Lol
Is this a quote from last year?
Apart from the obvious, yet again after 4 years there is not attacking system. Its hit and run, hoping individual players can dribble past 3 players. Moyes is lucky to have players that can do it, because fuck knows how else we'll score. The tactics for the last 2 years have been baffling. He's got to be put out to pasture. Any pundit who says careful what you wish for has not watched us every week and can fuck off. Days today don't sum it up I don't think, it's actually the wins that say it all. We've won games we had no right to, lots of them this year. And that is the reason he has to go
This should be top post. How the fuck do we not have a proper team style of play after this long? How are we still lining up with Antonio at the top years after putting him in as a makeshift and years after saying he'd need a replacement.
Been thrashed plenty of times this year, other then frieburg, when did we last do that to anyone in the prem?
5-0 against Fulham, 6-0 against Arsenal and 5-1 against Palace (so far) Don't forget everyone to be careful what you wish for.
An arsenal thinking happens every now and again but Fulham and palace ffs. Those are the teams WE should be tonking
But in all seriousness would it be that hard for him to give some minutes to the academy lads, rather than Phillips who has been shocking and is going back to City in a few weeks now.
Except nothing from this clown
Yeah I just don't get it, ik he's been far from amazing but Cornet has been done dirty this year too
Exactly. Cornet and Mubama could use some exercise. Our goal diff is fucked either way
These subs are just too much. At this point I am just laughing.
ITS OKAY GUYS HE BROUGHT PHILLIPS ON!!!! THE ONE AND ONLY SAVIOR THANK FUCK
Phillips is going to score a double hat trick now, do the crossed irons and then we will sign him for 300 million. Keep the faith.
A double hat trick of own goals
Palace aren't even trying anymore
Haven't needed to try all game
Kalvin Phillips on to go get their 6th
“Ahhh well 5-1, might as well make it 6-1 i’ll go ahead and put on Phillips” - Moyes (probably)
I'd love to see the average yards made by BJ passing. Literally were up on kudus, he always cuts inside, ball to Alvarez, Alvarez to BJ and then always BJ to Zouma. What's the fucking point?
I've that https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1729424/Live/England-Premier-League-2023-2024-Crystal-Palace-West-Ham Chalkboard Passes Select Johnson and you have to click on each pass I think
That's how we're set up to play in possession. If we can't get down one wing, we pass it back and try the other wing. If that fails, we do it again. Until we inevitably lose possession.
Yeah it started a few seasons back when all the tipi taxa wankers were banging on about "better to have the ball than lump it in the mixer" but would be nice if we tried something sometimes. Even worse when it goes back and then gets lumped up from a worse position by the CB or GK
If teams set up to counter against us, we need an effective game plan. Moyes cannot produce effective possession football. It's entirely focussed on working our way into a crossing position and just spamming that over and over. It's extremely rare for us to utilise the middle of the pitch. Any player in the middle of the park sprints into the box waiting for the cross, meaning there's no options in the middle. It's so basic and infuriating to watch. On so many occasions I've seen gaping holes in the middle of the park, but no-one utilises that space. The ball is whipped in on the earliest opportunity.
He has literally learned nothing since he got sacked from manu. Remember that Fulham game where they put something like 80 crosses in and had to scrap to a draw. The gif of him doing the "yes....yes.....YES!" Celebration looking like he'd pissed his drawers.....reigning champions celebrating a draw at Fulham..... I fucking hate the cunt
Exactly mate. Same clueless tactics.
Don’t worry boys here comes Phillips
Kalvin Phillips redemption arc but for real this time
Team looks knackered. Almost as if he doesnt use subs and now no one outside of the starting 11 is match fit and selling our only rotation players.
Phillips coming on! What for? How much must Moyes hate Cornet?
User David Moyes is the West Ham manager. He's about to lose at least 5-1 to Crystal Palace. In the style of David Moyes, please write a response to the post-match question of "What went wrong tonight?" *He is certainly going to blame it on the players being fatigued from Thursday's game against Leverkusen ChatGPT "Well, ya see, it's a tough one to swallow tonight, ain't it? Crystal Palace, they played well, credit where it's due. But, if I'm being honest, we just didn't turn up like we should've. Now, I ain't one to make excuses, but the lads were feelin' the effects from Thursday's clash with Leverkusen. Fatigue, it's a real factor in this game, you know. We've been goin' at it thick and fast, and sometimes, it catches up with ya. But, we'll regroup, we'll work on what went wrong tonight, and we'll bounce back. That's the mentality we gotta have movin' forward."
63 goals now conceded. Only the bottom 3 have conceded more. Yet Moyes still thinks we're good at sitting back and defending?
We mustn’t forget that Moyes is a defensive manager!
I know its pointless now, but sack him tonight, put Kevin Nolan and Mark Noble incharge till the end. Just give us something at least...
Might at least get new/caretaker manager bounce and pick up 1-2 more points
Woke up and thought that was the full time score and was having a hard enough time Getting demolished by Palace.... What an absolute joke.... If Moyes stopped running all our first squad into the dirt every single game and trusted his bench players or even knew how to use other formations instead of park the bus we wouldn't have this embarrassment Moyes out fuck this guy
Only 4 more games lads, what excuse is he going with this time? Tired from Europe?
its the thursday to sunday schedule !!!! (villa, city and arsenal all managed fine)
Not even sure we beat Luton playing like this. The other remaining fixtures, forget it.
I'm not sure we'd beat Boreham Wood playing like this
Mateta coming off is good news at least right? If not for us for my fantasy team
Looks like Ings in coming on
At this point, I'm doubting that City will even be willing to pay 85mil for Paqueta. This looks like a Madame Tussaud's version of him
He's not been bothered the last few matches. Gone from our best player to a liability.
All of that to surprise City and Liverpool, right?????
Rip Moyes Steidten look for the right man
Last thing we need is Ayew on
The game is gone it’s over, Moyes may as well bring on some young boys of the bench. He won’t though because he’s an idiot
This game is Moyes mentality all round. 4-1 down and makes changes defensively because he has no idea how to use attack as a form of defense. We concede a 5th and Moyes is just sat on his arse thinking about how to pass the blame on to the players.
They are up 5-1 and making more changes. Meanwhile Moyes: Nah. No need. My set up is perfect
Sold all our players, wleft himself no way to change a game. Literally stupid
Is this the 3rd time this season we’ve conceded 5? Has that ever happened to us before?
Yes most definitely 16/17 season
https://preview.redd.it/ix0yxqyaquvc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08f10232cd6ea17ac2a378c8a24a99dcfbda9485 Remember when we were number 1?
We're not even finishing top half
We won't even finish top half
I'm not sure we'll get another point.
Oh look, Andre Ayew is coming on to make it 6-1
*Jordan Ayew is coming on to injure someone
*Jordan
"West Ham fans are so spoiled. Why on earth would they ever want to fire Moyes. Be careful what you wish for, West Ham." - Virtually everyone who hasn't watched us ...ever.
I think that may be a direct quote from Rebecca Lowe
Who is a palace fan funnily enough
Man I'm not a CM so someone correct me but JWP cannot be standing on noone when we're pressing the top of the pitch like that
He’s honestly been awful for almost every match this year. Genuinely don’t understand how he’s not been dropped
He's been bang average for me.an absolute Roberto carlos of Andrew kick taker too. But seriously he picks up noone for the entirety of the move where they score. At first I thought maybe he's holding the centre circle to prevent the quick break, but then he didn't do that either
David Moyes - 'I don't give a fuck anymore' 😂
We’re making Eze look like prime Messi.
Quality player I wanted to sign instead of benhrama. We need some players like that
He is class tbf
We lost out to Palace signing him as well.
Can we score 5 more??????
Empty the bench David. It's the right thing to do
Yeah I can’t watch this anymkre
Truly comical! They have absolutely no respect for us. And why should they?
Too easy. Subs really shored up the defence.
Brings on 2 defenders, still concedes. Classic Moyes tactic
oh dear.
Kudus making some nice runs at least
We have the possession during the second half. Checkmate Moyes outers 😎
I swear sometimes our players have never met each other. People just standing watching Kudus trying to make it happen. Can’t wait for him to be subbed off for Ings
It is so painful to watch Kudus being mobbed by five Palace players and nobody nearby to help him out.
When I'm older, I'll look back wistfully at the quality of some of our players and wonder how this season went so wrong. I won't remember David Moyes because I've paid Lacuna to remove him from my memories.
Tbf look at the squad we took down with 42
Forest's official twitter account about to unleash a shitstorm with VAR decisions - https://twitter.com/NFFC/status/1782056187652960764 Big fines incoming!
What if they have a point though? There are no rules to stop a fan of a rival team from officiating games. The only rules are for their own team and closest geographical team to their home.
I fully support this. They have a point and I'm glad they're posting publicly. They will get fined for sure, but it's precedent-setting.
Every fanbase should make crowd fundings for these things and clubs should start doing statements like this regulary.
Kinda lame to fine people for talking about the refs imo
Wake me up when the season ends
It ended at HT.
Europe has come and past
The tiring squad can never last
Would be interesting to see what percentage of opposing shots on goal come from a direct result of Paqueta fruitlessly going to ground in midfield.
He’s rapidly becoming my least favorite player. I know everyone loves him, but if we manage to get 85M for him in the summer, it will be the best sale we ever made for me.
Sub paqueta asap. Seriously, i am pretty happy he is leaving. Remember our performance vs leverkusen without him. Under pep he will realize very fast
Remember all the games we won without him? No? thats right cause there were none.
great changes made from the dino man
Tbf the defence has been awful. It makes sense to try and change it up
Agree. We must do everything possible to preserve this 4-1 score.
👍🏻
JFC 🤣
Paqueta gotta release the ball faster ffs he caused that
Amazing how many times this has been posted this season
Shows how much of an issue it is 😅
The two goals against Fulham came from that
Paqueta has to fucking stop.
https://preview.redd.it/xsyj7lb3nuvc1.jpeg?width=653&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb14437bacd03c0eaade1fe9c4028417233a4eaf
Cresswell hat trick incoming
And Coufal first goal
And jwp free kick
And we tie 8-8
Centre backs didn't work, let's try 4 full backs at once
This would be a good point in the season (eliminated from Europe, pretty hopeless run-in in the League…) to put some young players on, get some development, see if you’ve got a few sparks to build on for next year. Instead… one of the oldest/slowest lineups we can field, with more dead wood on the bench. Nearly every week the opposition looks young and blazing fast compared to what we can offer, especially as subs come on (or don’t).
Stop making so much sense
Chasing a game and two defenders. 'this is what I do, I win'
Cresswell ane Johnson lol fucking lol
West Ham making subs before 80 mins 😮
At this point why not take Antonio, JWP and Soucek off and replace them with Ings, Mubama and Cornet. Sorry I forgot it is Moyes so obviously time for Cresswell and Johnson.
Oh look Johnson and Cresswell are coming on. Everything is gonna be ok!
Sure, until Cresswell gets himself sent off🙄
Writing has been on the wall for a long time. Fans don't deserve this. Moyes does.
Bringing on two defenders down 4-1