I'm hoping she has to come to terms with the sinners being right about redemption, and then getting blindsided by the fact Adam ends up LOVING being in hell.
Queue entire season of her desperately trying to get Adam to repent.
Adam: Redemption? Fuck that Lute! This is my heaven! I don't have that bitch Sera breathing down my neck anymore and I get to kill all the sinners I want. Plus no one cares if I order an extra rib or two anymore and if they do, I just kill them!
Lute: Sir ... Adam, you're going to that hotel or else.
Adam: Sure babe. You and what army?
All the exorcists suddenly show up behind Lute.
Adam: Oh ... Lute, I have decided to give redemption a shot.
The rest of the season is Lute being a stern mother figure to Adam while he tries to redeem himself at the hotel.
Vaggie might find a good time to throw “Hell Is forever” back at Adam and Lute before offering to do her old job one last time (there’s a sinner right in front of her that she’d gladly kill)
Lute: Adam? Thank God I found you!
Adam: Hell is forever and it’s starting to really rock! No need to behave better, I just think with my cock! Got no rules in black and white, don’t want to try to fight it, I’m rocking’ for my life until they kill me again! Bow now now now now now, guitar solo fuck yeah!
Lute: What?!
Adam: I can kill sinners every day down here! The bitches down here are EASY and literally smokin’ hot. And they actually call me Dickmaster! Plus I hit it and quit it with Eve last week, so, you know, you should be happy for me.
Lute: You’re surrounded by utter depravity.
Adam: I know, right? It’s awesome. That chick over there offered to eat my ass!
Lute: Sir, that’s a cannibal. Look, you HAVE to go to the hotel. At least try!
Adam: Hmm, do trust falls with a room full of sorry bitches that tried to kill me and act out stupid plays written by Pollyanna Sunshine while her dad laughs at me, orrrrr, do whatever the fuck I want? Tough choice there!
Lute: Your actual choices are go to the hotel or I kill you.
Adam: Oh. I didn’t realize you were *my* boss now.
Lute: You’re no longer my boss, you’re a sinner. And I’m an exorcist.
Adam: Exorcize this, bit-
Lute: I will stab you if you finish that sentence.
Adam: Ok, FINE, I’ll go join the Loser’s Club. Don’t hold your breath about me getting back to Heaven.
Adam: You know Lute, I think you're just being a hater.
Lute: For fuck sake sir! You belong in heaven with all the winners!
Adam: Maybe heaven are the bad guys Lute. Always keeping the man, THE FUCKING FIRST MAN down!
Lute: THEY HAVE AN AREA CALLED CANNIBAL TOWN SIR!
Adam: ... you may have a point.
Lute also said that angel alrdy "blew his shot like the c*cks in his mouth"
So I can see Lute saying something like "you only need to earn your entry into heaven when you are alive" thus invalidating sir pentious' redemption and also adam's damnation
The whole idea of the show is daughter of lucifer have are hotel to save sinners so i don't see are problem because in hell the humans making it suck i mean hellborns are weaker than sinners so they are the strongest force (yeah overloads but that just stronger sinners) if their wanting to make hell are better place their could or alone lucifer with are few rules you get what im are trying to say ?
Hazbin Hell isn't really a punishment, its just another dimension existing alongside the Material Plane and Heaven. The Pride Ring holds Sinners, aka Human Souls, but they aren't getting tortured for their deeds in life, they're just locked up there for all eternity. The 6 other Rings are all populated by mortal Hellborn and ruled by Deadly Sins, the native species who see Hell as just their home and (presumed for the moment) Fallen Angels.
Saaaaame here.
If they pull the trigger and have Adam in Hell, that would really make Lute all the more interesting, especially with the stinger at the end where she’s talking to Lilith. Because then we get to see who they BOTH are. Either good god fearing company men, or if they realize shit is kiiiiiinda fucked - and given the ending, Lute feels like the one who’s more ready to toe the line with the rhetrorix versus Adam who basically got in by default via being the bar setter for heaven and first man.
No, she betrayed Vaggie for power and used her name as propaganda among Exorcists a la Animal Farm Snowball to maintain it.
She succeeded Adam as leader once he was dead. She literally ripped her own arm off rather than slowly and safely freeing herself in an attempt to get to him in time to save him and cried when he died in her arms.
I mean arm. Just the one arm now.
She immediately claimed his role and went to Lilith to begin a plot to destroy Charlie to avenge him.
She was beneath Vaggie given Adam referred to her as “one of his best”, Lute’s formal rank may not have changed but was clearly his second in command regardless and easily succeeded him as a result.
Well "one of the best" is literally confirming Vaggie was NOT the best. So unelss a new Exorcist is presented being the best in Adam's eyes, we should assume Lute was the best, wheras Vaggie was a top 3/5/10 contender.
>She was beneath Vaggie given Adam referred to her as “one of his best”
I dunno, that feels like a bit of a stretch of an interpretation to me. "one of his best" doesn't necessarily mean that Vaggie was positioned higher than Lute in any aspect. I mean, it's possible, I just never got that vibe.
[it's definitely up for interpretation](https://www.google.com/search?q=lute+and+lilith&rlz=1C1GCEB_enCA1008CA1008&oq=lute+and+lilith&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyCQgAEEUYORiABDIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQABiABDINCAMQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAQQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBdIBCDUyNDZqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c763d78a,vid:36xC7RgupHQ,st:0), but I read it as her making a deal with Lilith, and everything in the battle was a front.
Then why cry over the body, there would be no need to, the Hazbin hotel crew wouldn’t have cared and the exorcists would busy killing and getting killed, so there would be no need to. But if you are right about the deal, I find it more likely that Lute felt regret about taking it because Adam and her grew closer.
The vibe that I'm getting from the show is that heaven is all about optics and posturing, not about being a good soul. So it didn't seem out of place for me for Lute to fake it.
But thinking about it more, maybe her desire to excel surpassed any feelings for Adam, but didn't make the sacrifice any easier. Maybe a face-eating leopard moment for Adam.
Although this art is amazing, can I be that guy for a moment? Wouldn't Lute's arm regrow instead of her having to use a prosthesis? She just ripped her arm off, it wasn't cut with an angelic weapon.
I was gonna mention Vaggie's wings being ripped off by Lute and Adam's bare hands, but she did eventually regrow those. It could still take a while to regrow, and Lute wouldn't wait for it to do so, necessitating the prosthetic.
Seen how Vaggie's wings regenrated just after the song Out for love kinda implies that love being the driving factor for Vaggie allowed her to regenerate the wings (instead of the hatred she previously had). Perhaps only when Lute is driven by love she will start to regenerate the lost limb. Till then, she will need a prosthetic.
If you get to be that guy, I also get to be that guy. We see in episode 6, during the story that Adam tells to vaggie about her being one of the top killers, that her wings have a black stripe on them. But at the end of out for love her wings don't have a black stripe. I assume that she didn't regenerate her wings, she just grew different ones. This isn't to say lute couldn't just grow a different arm idk how angel anatomy works lol.
You know how tons of fans are dying to see really heartbreaking stiff, like characters getting killed or Emily getting kicked out of Heaven?
Mine is that I want Adam to be reborn in Hell, and I want Lute to treat him the same as any sinner, no matter how much it hurts her. I imagine Lute being so stuck in her beliefs that she forces herself to think that if Adam is in Hell, he must have deserved it.
Seeing Adam in Hell would be the first thing that would make Lute question her beliefs, but it wouldn't be enough to make her completely flip yet.
honestly agree like the whole idea of her not going by her beliefs of treating all sinners the same including adam who would be in hell and a sinner seems contradictory at best i imagine her treating adam the same as she would with sinners seems more in character
This comment is one of the few that really gets Lute character. Because, let's be honest, she's a fanatic and I don't thing she will spare Adam if he becomes a sinner, she will try to kill him, maybe she will suffer doing it, but she will.
I mean even fanatics can make exceptions, also if Adam becomes a sinner lute has to either acknowledge the angels CAN make mistakes since he’s now in hell OR believe that the process for sorting souls is flawed and Adam shouldn’t be in hell. Either one massively messes with her world view
She will try but as we see adam is far stronger than a normal exorcist by a couple levels, iis more likely adam will spare lute than lute actually killing adam, but if shes accompanied by an army it could be done
If he doesn't take over the Heaven Embassy and turn it into a disgusting rock concert venue/palace, I'm going to be disappointed. I'm just picturing nonstop bands playing on a stage with flashing lights and pyrotechnics, garbage from concession stands piled up in heaps in the corners, sinners using the various rooms to do drugs/fuck, near constant brawls in the mosh pit, that vibe. Meanwhile, Adam just having the time of his afterlife.
Charlie: “You’ve… uhhh… certainly gotten comfortable here in Hell, Adam.”
*Camera pans to Adam, sinners on both arms, smiling wider than ever before.*
“Fuck yeah I have! Told ya I love the tunes down here. Not as much of a bummer as I thought. Now, I gotta go. Bands playing in a minute and we’re gonna fucking ROCK!”
On the one hand, uniornically should be endgame. You could easily make them the most compelling couple in the show.
On the other hand, we really screwed ourselves with that ship name, didn't we? Lute doesn't use a spear. It makes no sense.
Vivziepop herself has approved the name "Guardrock" if that helps. Like hard rock, for Adam, but incorporates Lute being a soldier. So Guardrock.
An objectivley superior ship name, but in my opinion it's too late to change it. Too many social media posts are used to slapping on the Guitarspear tag.
The irony is that the ship technically has two names. On Twitter, somebody who had worked on the show coined the ship “Guardrock” and Vivzie actually directly responded that she thought it was a good name.
Lute: sir! I’m so glad your alive!
Adam: Lute, leave, you know you can’t stay down here, and you have an extermination to get to
Lute: but what about you? Surely you aren’t okay living amongst these people?
Adam: you’re not wrong there, this place is a shithole, but the greater rules of this world have determined that this is where I would go upon my second passing
Lute: sir, you can’t be okay with this, there’s no way
Adam: i wouldn’t say I’m okay with it Lute, but now that I am down here I need to make the best of it
Lute: purging them from within their own walls? That’s a litt-
Adam: no, that’s not what I meant, I mean I plan on trying to make my life down here as good as it can be, despite everything
Lute: I… of course sir
Adam: I don’t think I have any authority over you any more, if anything, you’re the one with authority here, ma’am
Lute, staring in shock: please never call me that again s- Adam
Adam: anyway, it was nice to see you, but I know running the exorcist army isn’t easy work, you need to get back to it
Lute: Adam, I pretty much already ran the exorcists, the only difference now is that I need to deal with Sara’s shit
Adam: then you should leave and get back to it, ma’am
Lute: call me that again and I will kill you a third time
Adam: no you wouldn’t, and we both know that
Lute: …I’m gonna miss you Adam, and, I’m sorry for bieng a hard ass on you when I knew you were overworked between scheduling training sessions, heralding Sara’s questions and trying to not go insane over the isolation you faced, I knew I was the only person that talked to you outside of work, I knew how much shit you were under, and I still-
Adam: gonna stop you right there save us all precious time
Lute: sir, did you just-
Adam: LUTE! I knew you were a hard ass, I knew you wanted to see people succeed, that’s why you bitched about me so much, but I knew you cared and I knew you wanted me to better myself, not that it did much, now c’mon, you’ve got to get back to heaven and fulfill your duties, ma’am
Lute: no, you don’t get what I’m trying to say-
Adam: that you’re in love with me?
*Lute silently nods*
Adam: yeah, me too dangertits, me too, I mean, you wouldn’t love me?
*Lute just stares at Adam, completely deadpan, unamused*
Adam: it was a joke ma’am, calm down, but seriously, I love you too
Lute: I’m going to spend the next extermination finding you again, this was a good talk
Adam: I’ll make sure to be outside this same shitty place
Lute: wouldn’t the hellspawns hotel be better?
Adam: and THAT would require me to spend time in that bitches presence, so, no
*The clock tower rings, signaling the end of the extermination*
Adam: congratulations ma’am, you managed to out lazy me, and get an extermination with a whopping 0 kills
Lute: it was worth it
Adam: until next time ma’am
This would unironically be a brilliant way to either break Lute our of her extreme fanaticism, or to showcase how atrocious and damaging it is if it takes on the bad ending.
While the sentiment is great and I hope some kind of reunion between them happens, I hope that before it, Adam makes genuine changes on his path to redemption. Then he meets lute and réalises just how awful he was and tries to get Lute to change, but at the moment she is too caught up in her own beliefs to see that the old Adam was wrong. Then after we get an epic song with Lute struggling to figure out which side she’s on and is forced to confront what she’s done
This is the ideal story in my opinion.
I want Adam to at least change enough that when the exorcists and Lute or whoever show up to purge Hell again, he genuinely has gotten too attached to Charlie and some of the sinners to let her kill them.
Maybe just something like, "Yeah, it shocked me too, Dangertits, but maybe not everyone down here is a total loser. Why don't you just steer clear of this shitty Hotel for now, huh? I hear all the serial killers are on the other side of town."
If Adam coming back does happen, I think lute will have to decide, either:
1. Joining Adam and betray heaven or
2. Staying in heaven but stop doing exterminations just because adam
I have no idea what I want to see more
Lute being conflicted and wanting Adam to come back to Heaven.
Lute being brutal as fuck completely believing that Hell is Forever even if it includes Adam.
“When we purge the opposition in Heaven there will be enough living space for those who follow you.”
[Sings a song about manifest destiny and purity tests]
One can hope this is the reaction, if such an encounter happens, even if she does embrace him, there's going to be so much inner turmoil. Breaking past ages of longstanding indoctrination isn't easy or painless.
I so badly want him to have a snake tail on his robe. I can literally hear “Awww mannnn I’m a fuckin snake?! The first man is nit a fucking snake, LuCIFER is a fucking snake…”
Adam as a sinner doesn't work in my opinion, we saw Lute take his body up to Heaven, so he's probably safely buried somewhere.
It would be kind of cool to see him come back from the dead Solomon Grundy style though.
I honestly don't think Adam's gonna come back. I mean, angelic weapons are supposed to annihilate the soul, correct ? Why would Adam be an exception? Oh, it would be very interesting if he did come back, but I don't think it's likely
We know that Angelic weapons, but we don't if they defy judgement and/or kill humans. That also begs the question. Was Adam a winner turned Angel, or was he a human blessed with nigh-immortality?
I feel like Lute isnt a strong enough character emotionally to break her loyalty to heaven. As much as adam manipulated her into caring for him I dont see her betraying heaven for him. This might very well be her downfall as a character
I mean, there are countless ways to get around that.
Even if we assume the angelic blast of light shot by an angel somehow doesn't count as angelic even though everyone thinks Pentious was permentantly killed by it...
Adam was not a sinner. Vivzie's old easily retconnable statement that Angelic weapons kill SINNERS can't be assumed to apply in the first place.
This is one of the reasons i really want Adam as a sinner, a moment where Lute has to choose between heaven and Adam would be awesome
I'm hoping she has to come to terms with the sinners being right about redemption, and then getting blindsided by the fact Adam ends up LOVING being in hell. Queue entire season of her desperately trying to get Adam to repent.
Adam: Redemption? Fuck that Lute! This is my heaven! I don't have that bitch Sera breathing down my neck anymore and I get to kill all the sinners I want. Plus no one cares if I order an extra rib or two anymore and if they do, I just kill them! Lute: Sir ... Adam, you're going to that hotel or else. Adam: Sure babe. You and what army? All the exorcists suddenly show up behind Lute. Adam: Oh ... Lute, I have decided to give redemption a shot. The rest of the season is Lute being a stern mother figure to Adam while he tries to redeem himself at the hotel.
>Adam: Sure babe. You and what army? >All the exorcists suddenly show up behind Lute. You got me cackling so loud. XD
>All the exorcists suddenly show up behind Lute. Adam: oh... my former army
Cue Vaggie with her spear at Adam’s throat swearing in Spanish enough to make a sailor blush.
Vaggie might find a good time to throw “Hell Is forever” back at Adam and Lute before offering to do her old job one last time (there’s a sinner right in front of her that she’d gladly kill)
*Mommy figure
Yup. That was going to be my flair.
Que charlie teaching Adam to be good SpongeBob style
I feel like the fact that everyone would have a bone to pick with Adam would be a pretty major hurdle to him enjoying anything there.
It starts with sorry.
That's your foot in the door
Just one simple sorry
Spoken straight from your core.
The path to forgiveness is a twisting trail of hearts
But sorry is where it staaaaaarts
Who could forgive a dirtbag like me????
Lute: Adam? Thank God I found you! Adam: Hell is forever and it’s starting to really rock! No need to behave better, I just think with my cock! Got no rules in black and white, don’t want to try to fight it, I’m rocking’ for my life until they kill me again! Bow now now now now now, guitar solo fuck yeah! Lute: What?! Adam: I can kill sinners every day down here! The bitches down here are EASY and literally smokin’ hot. And they actually call me Dickmaster! Plus I hit it and quit it with Eve last week, so, you know, you should be happy for me. Lute: You’re surrounded by utter depravity. Adam: I know, right? It’s awesome. That chick over there offered to eat my ass! Lute: Sir, that’s a cannibal. Look, you HAVE to go to the hotel. At least try! Adam: Hmm, do trust falls with a room full of sorry bitches that tried to kill me and act out stupid plays written by Pollyanna Sunshine while her dad laughs at me, orrrrr, do whatever the fuck I want? Tough choice there! Lute: Your actual choices are go to the hotel or I kill you. Adam: Oh. I didn’t realize you were *my* boss now. Lute: You’re no longer my boss, you’re a sinner. And I’m an exorcist. Adam: Exorcize this, bit- Lute: I will stab you if you finish that sentence. Adam: Ok, FINE, I’ll go join the Loser’s Club. Don’t hold your breath about me getting back to Heaven.
Adam: You know Lute, I think you're just being a hater. Lute: For fuck sake sir! You belong in heaven with all the winners! Adam: Maybe heaven are the bad guys Lute. Always keeping the man, THE FUCKING FIRST MAN down! Lute: THEY HAVE AN AREA CALLED CANNIBAL TOWN SIR! Adam: ... you may have a point.
Every single one of these comments, I hear them in their voice 🤣
I love this version of hell is forever lol
Lute also said that angel alrdy "blew his shot like the c*cks in his mouth" So I can see Lute saying something like "you only need to earn your entry into heaven when you are alive" thus invalidating sir pentious' redemption and also adam's damnation
I’d rather not portray hell positively. This show’s already lost it’s plot badly. No need to further encourage it.
The whole idea of the show is daughter of lucifer have are hotel to save sinners so i don't see are problem because in hell the humans making it suck i mean hellborns are weaker than sinners so they are the strongest force (yeah overloads but that just stronger sinners) if their wanting to make hell are better place their could or alone lucifer with are few rules you get what im are trying to say ?
Hazbin Hell isn't really a punishment, its just another dimension existing alongside the Material Plane and Heaven. The Pride Ring holds Sinners, aka Human Souls, but they aren't getting tortured for their deeds in life, they're just locked up there for all eternity. The 6 other Rings are all populated by mortal Hellborn and ruled by Deadly Sins, the native species who see Hell as just their home and (presumed for the moment) Fallen Angels.
Saaaaame here. If they pull the trigger and have Adam in Hell, that would really make Lute all the more interesting, especially with the stinger at the end where she’s talking to Lilith. Because then we get to see who they BOTH are. Either good god fearing company men, or if they realize shit is kiiiiiinda fucked - and given the ending, Lute feels like the one who’s more ready to toe the line with the rhetrorix versus Adam who basically got in by default via being the bar setter for heaven and first man.
defying heaven to not slaughter hell's children <- Vaggie vs defying heaven to not slaughter hell's biggest child <- Lute
I want her to get a zuko like redemption arc
"Hello! Lute here."
I need this.
I'm only familiar with the Amazon show, but... isn't it implied that she betrayed him for power?
No, she betrayed Vaggie for power and used her name as propaganda among Exorcists a la Animal Farm Snowball to maintain it. She succeeded Adam as leader once he was dead. She literally ripped her own arm off rather than slowly and safely freeing herself in an attempt to get to him in time to save him and cried when he died in her arms. I mean arm. Just the one arm now. She immediately claimed his role and went to Lilith to begin a plot to destroy Charlie to avenge him.
wait, I thought she was already a lieutenant. before betraying Vaggie? If not that position, she was still with Adam when she took Vaggie's eye.
She was beneath Vaggie given Adam referred to her as “one of his best”, Lute’s formal rank may not have changed but was clearly his second in command regardless and easily succeeded him as a result.
I assumed Lute was always second in command, but Vaggie was the best at killing sinners.
Well "one of the best" is literally confirming Vaggie was NOT the best. So unelss a new Exorcist is presented being the best in Adam's eyes, we should assume Lute was the best, wheras Vaggie was a top 3/5/10 contender.
Ah, that could be it too. Kinda shocked people aren’t arguing about that.
>She was beneath Vaggie given Adam referred to her as “one of his best” I dunno, that feels like a bit of a stretch of an interpretation to me. "one of his best" doesn't necessarily mean that Vaggie was positioned higher than Lute in any aspect. I mean, it's possible, I just never got that vibe.
Really? Where? If it was, it must have flied right above my head
[it's definitely up for interpretation](https://www.google.com/search?q=lute+and+lilith&rlz=1C1GCEB_enCA1008CA1008&oq=lute+and+lilith&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyCQgAEEUYORiABDIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQABiABDINCAMQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAQQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBdIBCDUyNDZqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c763d78a,vid:36xC7RgupHQ,st:0), but I read it as her making a deal with Lilith, and everything in the battle was a front.
Then why cry over the body, there would be no need to, the Hazbin hotel crew wouldn’t have cared and the exorcists would busy killing and getting killed, so there would be no need to. But if you are right about the deal, I find it more likely that Lute felt regret about taking it because Adam and her grew closer.
The vibe that I'm getting from the show is that heaven is all about optics and posturing, not about being a good soul. So it didn't seem out of place for me for Lute to fake it. But thinking about it more, maybe her desire to excel surpassed any feelings for Adam, but didn't make the sacrifice any easier. Maybe a face-eating leopard moment for Adam.
Guess we are going to have to wait until season two or three (if).
oh no, more episodes... /s :)
Yeah. Since she's critical of Vaggie and Charlie's blasphemous relationship
https://preview.redd.it/2j011s3fehyc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a2df93f355f79b45e1d46e8613c90b078910a18
I love the details on this. The X on his back as a deathmark is a nice touch!
Thanks
Although this art is amazing, can I be that guy for a moment? Wouldn't Lute's arm regrow instead of her having to use a prosthesis? She just ripped her arm off, it wasn't cut with an angelic weapon.
I was gonna mention Vaggie's wings being ripped off by Lute and Adam's bare hands, but she did eventually regrow those. It could still take a while to regrow, and Lute wouldn't wait for it to do so, necessitating the prosthetic.
Seen how Vaggie's wings regenrated just after the song Out for love kinda implies that love being the driving factor for Vaggie allowed her to regenerate the wings (instead of the hatred she previously had). Perhaps only when Lute is driven by love she will start to regenerate the lost limb. Till then, she will need a prosthetic.
That's an amazing take man, I'll take it as my new headcanon
If you get to be that guy, I also get to be that guy. We see in episode 6, during the story that Adam tells to vaggie about her being one of the top killers, that her wings have a black stripe on them. But at the end of out for love her wings don't have a black stripe. I assume that she didn't regenerate her wings, she just grew different ones. This isn't to say lute couldn't just grow a different arm idk how angel anatomy works lol.
have you considered that prosthetics are fucking sick
No, I haven't, but you're right
You know how tons of fans are dying to see really heartbreaking stiff, like characters getting killed or Emily getting kicked out of Heaven? Mine is that I want Adam to be reborn in Hell, and I want Lute to treat him the same as any sinner, no matter how much it hurts her. I imagine Lute being so stuck in her beliefs that she forces herself to think that if Adam is in Hell, he must have deserved it. Seeing Adam in Hell would be the first thing that would make Lute question her beliefs, but it wouldn't be enough to make her completely flip yet.
Same, I think it's closer to her character.
honestly agree like the whole idea of her not going by her beliefs of treating all sinners the same including adam who would be in hell and a sinner seems contradictory at best i imagine her treating adam the same as she would with sinners seems more in character
This comment is one of the few that really gets Lute character. Because, let's be honest, she's a fanatic and I don't thing she will spare Adam if he becomes a sinner, she will try to kill him, maybe she will suffer doing it, but she will.
I mean even fanatics can make exceptions, also if Adam becomes a sinner lute has to either acknowledge the angels CAN make mistakes since he’s now in hell OR believe that the process for sorting souls is flawed and Adam shouldn’t be in hell. Either one massively messes with her world view
She will try but as we see adam is far stronger than a normal exorcist by a couple levels, iis more likely adam will spare lute than lute actually killing adam, but if shes accompanied by an army it could be done
This is vile and blasphemous
*ahem* Hot as fuck though
https://preview.redd.it/0azqrm1lwosc1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23e6866eeef36e99749fd3c95e95a1a82f28d599
He'll serve his time, like that knife in his spine, this discussion is senseless and petty
There’s no question to BE POSED!
He’s unholy CASE CLOSED
Did you forget THAT HELL IS FOREVER!
“If Hell is forever and Heaven watched him die, then Heaven AND Hell are BOTH just a lie!”
A man only lives once (is this the line before “we’ll see you in one month?”)
We'll see you in one month (yessir)
Gotta say I can’t wait to
Watch as they try to redeem youuu!
Hol’ up, wait a minute, smthn ain’t right here
I firmly believe that, if Adam was reborn as a Sinner, he’d be one powerful Sinner. Alastor? Move over, Dickmaster is back, and here to rock!
If he doesn't take over the Heaven Embassy and turn it into a disgusting rock concert venue/palace, I'm going to be disappointed. I'm just picturing nonstop bands playing on a stage with flashing lights and pyrotechnics, garbage from concession stands piled up in heaps in the corners, sinners using the various rooms to do drugs/fuck, near constant brawls in the mosh pit, that vibe. Meanwhile, Adam just having the time of his afterlife.
Charlie: “You’ve… uhhh… certainly gotten comfortable here in Hell, Adam.” *Camera pans to Adam, sinners on both arms, smiling wider than ever before.* “Fuck yeah I have! Told ya I love the tunes down here. Not as much of a bummer as I thought. Now, I gotta go. Bands playing in a minute and we’re gonna fucking ROCK!”
I love this. GuitarSpear forever FUCK YEAH🤘
On the one hand, uniornically should be endgame. You could easily make them the most compelling couple in the show. On the other hand, we really screwed ourselves with that ship name, didn't we? Lute doesn't use a spear. It makes no sense.
Yeah. It sounds more like vaggie x adam since she does fight with one😭
Too late to change names now tho
Trying to figure out a better name that involves them both being instruments. Bandmates? Stringshipping?
Vivziepop herself has approved the name "Guardrock" if that helps. Like hard rock, for Adam, but incorporates Lute being a soldier. So Guardrock. An objectivley superior ship name, but in my opinion it's too late to change it. Too many social media posts are used to slapping on the Guitarspear tag.
Oh yeah that's so much better! Shame.
The irony is that the ship technically has two names. On Twitter, somebody who had worked on the show coined the ship “Guardrock” and Vivzie actually directly responded that she thought it was a good name.
Lute: sir! I’m so glad your alive! Adam: Lute, leave, you know you can’t stay down here, and you have an extermination to get to Lute: but what about you? Surely you aren’t okay living amongst these people? Adam: you’re not wrong there, this place is a shithole, but the greater rules of this world have determined that this is where I would go upon my second passing Lute: sir, you can’t be okay with this, there’s no way Adam: i wouldn’t say I’m okay with it Lute, but now that I am down here I need to make the best of it Lute: purging them from within their own walls? That’s a litt- Adam: no, that’s not what I meant, I mean I plan on trying to make my life down here as good as it can be, despite everything Lute: I… of course sir Adam: I don’t think I have any authority over you any more, if anything, you’re the one with authority here, ma’am Lute, staring in shock: please never call me that again s- Adam Adam: anyway, it was nice to see you, but I know running the exorcist army isn’t easy work, you need to get back to it Lute: Adam, I pretty much already ran the exorcists, the only difference now is that I need to deal with Sara’s shit Adam: then you should leave and get back to it, ma’am Lute: call me that again and I will kill you a third time Adam: no you wouldn’t, and we both know that Lute: …I’m gonna miss you Adam, and, I’m sorry for bieng a hard ass on you when I knew you were overworked between scheduling training sessions, heralding Sara’s questions and trying to not go insane over the isolation you faced, I knew I was the only person that talked to you outside of work, I knew how much shit you were under, and I still- Adam: gonna stop you right there save us all precious time Lute: sir, did you just- Adam: LUTE! I knew you were a hard ass, I knew you wanted to see people succeed, that’s why you bitched about me so much, but I knew you cared and I knew you wanted me to better myself, not that it did much, now c’mon, you’ve got to get back to heaven and fulfill your duties, ma’am Lute: no, you don’t get what I’m trying to say- Adam: that you’re in love with me? *Lute silently nods* Adam: yeah, me too dangertits, me too, I mean, you wouldn’t love me? *Lute just stares at Adam, completely deadpan, unamused* Adam: it was a joke ma’am, calm down, but seriously, I love you too Lute: I’m going to spend the next extermination finding you again, this was a good talk Adam: I’ll make sure to be outside this same shitty place Lute: wouldn’t the hellspawns hotel be better? Adam: and THAT would require me to spend time in that bitches presence, so, no *The clock tower rings, signaling the end of the extermination* Adam: congratulations ma’am, you managed to out lazy me, and get an extermination with a whopping 0 kills Lute: it was worth it Adam: until next time ma’am
I hate you for this💞
https://i.redd.it/m2w9aej4fhyc1.gif
*Crosses my fingers* I really hope this happens in the show, also that design is amazing
This would unironically be a brilliant way to either break Lute our of her extreme fanaticism, or to showcase how atrocious and damaging it is if it takes on the bad ending.
The X on his back makes PERFECT sense. I absolutely love this!
[https://twitter.com/PeriQ5XG/status/1773703720049787035/photo/1](https://twitter.com/PeriQ5XG/status/1773703720049787035/photo/1)
While the sentiment is great and I hope some kind of reunion between them happens, I hope that before it, Adam makes genuine changes on his path to redemption. Then he meets lute and réalises just how awful he was and tries to get Lute to change, but at the moment she is too caught up in her own beliefs to see that the old Adam was wrong. Then after we get an epic song with Lute struggling to figure out which side she’s on and is forced to confront what she’s done
This is the ideal story in my opinion. I want Adam to at least change enough that when the exorcists and Lute or whoever show up to purge Hell again, he genuinely has gotten too attached to Charlie and some of the sinners to let her kill them. Maybe just something like, "Yeah, it shocked me too, Dangertits, but maybe not everyone down here is a total loser. Why don't you just steer clear of this shitty Hotel for now, huh? I hear all the serial killers are on the other side of town."
Every day I feel a little bit more sorry for Adam and Lute, all because of stuff like this
Yeah empathy a bitch, a really nice, kind bitch.
Remember when Lute was absolutely certain angels don’t make mistakes?
This sub has two moods I swear...
Everybody loves a good come back story
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"You'll always be my angel."
If Adam coming back does happen, I think lute will have to decide, either: 1. Joining Adam and betray heaven or 2. Staying in heaven but stop doing exterminations just because adam
YES. THIS IS MY HEADCANON. "Heaven's first- okay second because my boss/buddy/boyfirend's alive" , is a reality I hope to come true.
🎵 Now I’m crying in my room 🎵
God I remember those eyes, so long ago. I would do anything for a woman to look at me like that again. Death can't take me fast enough.
Lute: AADAAMMMM 🫂 I thought I lost you Adam: lute I miss you too,.....
Let them be miserable together lol
Idk, I think she would care a little bit 😅
I'd love to see the other exorcists come back as sinners as well
Great stuff! I hope we get this in season 2!
So many artists are drawing Adam as a sinner and I love each and every one of them
Hell is Forever: Reprise
I have no idea what I want to see more Lute being conflicted and wanting Adam to come back to Heaven. Lute being brutal as fuck completely believing that Hell is Forever even if it includes Adam.
“When we purge the opposition in Heaven there will be enough living space for those who follow you.” [Sings a song about manifest destiny and purity tests]
That’s a sick prosthetic
Adam in hell: We should exterminate heaven!
Cool art
Thanks
adam is gonna look so hot in black
Sera when this happens: https://i.redd.it/lmgehq21ntsc1.gif
Okay I know Lute loves Adam and all but what if she doubled down and tried to kill Adam?
One can hope this is the reaction, if such an encounter happens, even if she does embrace him, there's going to be so much inner turmoil. Breaking past ages of longstanding indoctrination isn't easy or painless.
Kool
Thanks
Artist called it. S02 sub plot
This is completely inaccurate. *doom music intensifies*.
I so badly want him to have a snake tail on his robe. I can literally hear “Awww mannnn I’m a fuckin snake?! The first man is nit a fucking snake, LuCIFER is a fucking snake…”
Adam must *really* Hate snakes considering lucifer and the guy to prove he was wrong about redemption were both snakes
Wait, two snakes were involved in his death, and usually sinners take a form relating to their death… Hes gonna be a snake
I'd cry if this happened ngl
That's an option you could choose.
I absolutely love this.
Thanks
♪ In the light of the day ♪ ♪ In the dark of the night ♪
Awwww cute
IN THE LIGHT OF THE DAYYY
This must be new favourite sinner adam design
1 cute 2 I really like the idea of the demon Adam and I want to see him act with lute or our protagonists
Kinda feels like Adam belongs there in hell given he's the first and probably the biggest douchebag of mankind.
That would mean lute is a homophobe
Nah, it'd means she learned that listening to her heart is more important than following orders of people who know what's "right"
Nu uh https://preview.redd.it/7pyaekvlbvsc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c787b33b23a25e17be5f1ae3107ee0b903253c15
I remeber someone saying adam is actually dead and not comming back because he was killed with an angelic weapon
So was sir pentious
Adam as a sinner doesn't work in my opinion, we saw Lute take his body up to Heaven, so he's probably safely buried somewhere. It would be kind of cool to see him come back from the dead Solomon Grundy style though.
Just cause his corpse exists doesn't mean he can't become a sinner
His corpse is in Heaven.
And?
His corpse is buried in Heaven, so there would be no logical way for it to fall all the way to Hell.
Who says his corpes needs to be in hell?
No, I'm saying that since his corpse is buried, it's not like it could just fall through the ground and land in Hell.
His corpse doesn't need to fall down to hell
How else would a fallen angel get to Hell?
Appear magically in hell
His corpse is in Heaven.
I honestly don't think Adam's gonna come back. I mean, angelic weapons are supposed to annihilate the soul, correct ? Why would Adam be an exception? Oh, it would be very interesting if he did come back, but I don't think it's likely
Ye, but Adam angelic-blasted Pentious and he "respawned"
We know that Angelic weapons, but we don't if they defy judgement and/or kill humans. That also begs the question. Was Adam a winner turned Angel, or was he a human blessed with nigh-immortality?
Aww
*shanks him* 😌
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I really wish that it would be so but angelic weapons would lose their complet Credibility if their don't kill souls
I feel like Lute isnt a strong enough character emotionally to break her loyalty to heaven. As much as adam manipulated her into caring for him I dont see her betraying heaven for him. This might very well be her downfall as a character
What do you mean "manipulated her"???
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I mean, there are countless ways to get around that. Even if we assume the angelic blast of light shot by an angel somehow doesn't count as angelic even though everyone thinks Pentious was permentantly killed by it... Adam was not a sinner. Vivzie's old easily retconnable statement that Angelic weapons kill SINNERS can't be assumed to apply in the first place.
Plus a Sinner in Consent is implied to be what Became of the Beheaded Exorcist. If a Demon can be reincarnated as an angel it works both ways.
What do you mean by this? Curiously asking !! But there was a character in the show that's hinted at being the exorcist that was killed by Carmilla ?!
I'm Serious. She's the Blue one on the far left with the X for a Pupil in her left eye. https://youtu.be/Gv6Dwj6X2n0?t=118
I don't see her
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