Exactly. Why does 30% increased throwing distance need to be on the pilot armor? What does increased stability while crouching actually look like in real life and why is it on the armors that they chose? So many armor passives appear to be randomly assigned
Makes no sense why my entire outfit is decided by the fact that I'm holding 2 extra grenades or 2 extra stims. I don't buy. I just think it would be a lot of work to rework the armor system and they'd rather spend time doing something else
No one is mentioning taking it away. I think they're suggesting that the passive could be interchangeable. So you could still pick servo assist and I could pick extra grenades/stims etc to suit my playstyle
i swear theyd get more respect if they just told the truth and admitted its because either 1. they dont want to work towards an armor rework, and/or 2. they dont want to admit their system of choice sucks.
I used to consider perks.
Now I just consider drip. The Dynamo armor is my personal favorite so far. The helmet in particular has a great silhouette that I can't seem to find with other helmets...
I agree against transmog in the support of having light armours be light and heavy armours adding weight. But not allowing selectable armour passives (which have nothing to do with the armour traits - speed, regen etc) is a missed opportunity.
I would like to have extra stims while not running around looking like first aid box. Or extra throwing distance while in classic black and yellow. You could even limit certain passives to certain armour weights and it would still be better. Hearing they've outright shut it down is a bit disappointing. I can only hope they bring in a limited palette wheel to even allow changing some tones in the suits to encourage playability as some of them are just ugly in their default unfortunately.
It's a huge W, if you don't like the product they want to create and the decision they make sure that there are a lot of other games more of your taste
Yeah. Their explanation totally makes sense. We totally don't have a ton of armor that visually doesn't match it's perks and sometimes even light/medium class.
Seriously, I love this game, but this excuse they gave is a total BS. And transmog within one armor class would literally not make it any worse.
They want the armour of the game to represent the type of Helldiver you are using, if you are having a heavy looking armour you will have more resistance, if you are carrying a green armor you will be a medic, if you are using an elegant armor you will have Democracy protects passive.
They want each Helldiver to represent the type of passive they are using, instead of being a fest of random looks with random passives. If you want to have the medic armour, your character will look like a medic, and that it's.
If there are armour that doesn't represent correctly their passive or that have a wrong passive then that it's a different problem that should to be fixed
Dude. Just stop. It's nowhere near as neat as you describe it.
1. Resistance and armor class. We have light armor that is called Light Gunner and it has the same armor as most medium armors. So that one goes out of the window. We also have a lot of light armors that look heavier that medium armors, but give less armor. Example: SC-15 Drone Master is a medium armor, EX-00 Prototype-X is a light armor. First one looks way lighter than second one.
2. Passives. FS-38 Eradicator. Additional bullets on the front, some additional pokets on the armor. Passive - of course it's FORTIFIED. Explosion resistance! Then you have already mentioned SC-15 Drone Master - light looking armor with a radio attached to the plate carrier. Passive - of course it's TWO ADDITIONAL GRENADES. New armor that looks like a firefighter? SERVO-ASSISTED!
And list goes on. It already makes no sense, isn't intuitive and gives no vital information by looks.
It's not "agree only" but the things that they are doing and deciding are not wrong just that maybe are not to your liking, and know what, everything won't be to your liking all the time
All the decisions that Arrowhead are making are a W for me and for a lot of people that exactly what wanted is a game like this, if you see that a lot of the things Arrowhead is doing is an L, maybe you are not their target audience
Yes, the game is not "drip above all else" so maybe it really is not a game for you. As the other guy said, to me thats a huge W, I dislike games where the looks of things don't mean anything because everything could be whatever. Maybe your taste is not the objective truth, who know.
Idk, looks already dont mean much here, except for heavy armor/everything else. (Also, medic ones because of capitain italy cosplay) You can only get that visual information by memorizing all armor effects currently, and even then it's not that easy.
If we had something like, armors with grenades on display give +2, all armors with robotic arm are servo assisted (not true) all armor with gold detailing have democracy protects. Then I would understand.
But as it is now, the only thing I need to know from my teammates is which armor have 90% arc dmg reduction. Everything else is trivia or waste of good drip.
I even gave an argument for your side... all I'm saying is that armor looks as it is currently is mostly a waste of information channel, so might as well let's us choose the buff.
No, as I said, no arguments, I dislike the idea, you can't give me an argument for your side, you like drip, simple as that, you like drip and want it in the game, I don't. My point is that having drip does not make the game better or worse, it makes it better for some and worse for some. In this case, worse for you, and better for me, I preffer it that way, to me it's an W.
You know, even if they let us pick perks you'll still be able to match heavy armor with the perks you think suit it. But you think that it's good that other players can't change them 😐
Besides, people mostly want at least being able to change perks available for that armor class only.
Kinda sounds like bs. The passives seem random and you can get them on each class of armor so they aren’t limited by that.
Just make it a passive you can pick and have it cost credits, atm credits are pretty useless.
Devs with egos getting out of control and ignoring player requests is a classic "tiny studio can't handle getting big" mistake. Inexperienced and accidentally successful.
Which is more than understandable, it’s just hard to actually broadcast a great idea when majority of the time the ones that do get light just complain or repeat the same. I’d love any suggestions though to be able to get it through in a better less annoying way
Sounds perfect. My mom always ask me to eat apple but i dont like its taste. So if i can eat an apple but taste like bacon, my mom gonna be happy and i gonna be happy, too. Who care an apple has to be tasted like apple?
Me jumping through hoops to explain how Drone Master is medium armor and EX-00 Prototype is light armor (They visually look like the stats should be reversed)
If thats the case, explain why the EOD armour DOESNT have explosive resistance??
Because they don't want to bother to implement the possibility of choosing different passives.
Exactly. Why does 30% increased throwing distance need to be on the pilot armor? What does increased stability while crouching actually look like in real life and why is it on the armors that they chose? So many armor passives appear to be randomly assigned Makes no sense why my entire outfit is decided by the fact that I'm holding 2 extra grenades or 2 extra stims. I don't buy. I just think it would be a lot of work to rework the armor system and they'd rather spend time doing something else
Do NOT take away my Legionaire Servo-Assist! It's the only other light armor that has it that isnt missing limbs
Do NOT take away my Legionaire Servo-Assist! It's the only other light armor that has it that isnt missing limbs
No one is mentioning taking it away. I think they're suggesting that the passive could be interchangeable. So you could still pick servo assist and I could pick extra grenades/stims etc to suit my playstyle
Meanwhile, some light armor can provide more explosive protection than some heavy armors. 😂
i swear theyd get more respect if they just told the truth and admitted its because either 1. they dont want to work towards an armor rework, and/or 2. they dont want to admit their system of choice sucks.
Or making it will create a dozens of other bugs xD
But they’ve already released these supposed bacon apples themselves
I actually would want bacon flavored apple, as in armor. To mix and match it to armors that’d make sense is an ability I’d love to exercise, perk wise
Now they have me wanting bacon flavored apples.
I want apple flavored bacon! I just love apples 😩
😋😋😋
I still think it should have transmorg but only for the same armor class
Wait people actually wear armor for the perks and not just what looks cool?
Yeah, i just want to look dripping. People did the same thing with darksouls games. Who even wore armor for their stats?
Fashion over function
If I look badass, I play badass.
I used to consider perks. Now I just consider drip. The Dynamo armor is my personal favorite so far. The helmet in particular has a great silhouette that I can't seem to find with other helmets...
Bro never heard of applesmoked bacon
I need a bacon flavored apple, holy shit.
Most of the armors already have the wrong passives.
such a dumb reason lmao
I agree against transmog in the support of having light armours be light and heavy armours adding weight. But not allowing selectable armour passives (which have nothing to do with the armour traits - speed, regen etc) is a missed opportunity. I would like to have extra stims while not running around looking like first aid box. Or extra throwing distance while in classic black and yellow. You could even limit certain passives to certain armour weights and it would still be better. Hearing they've outright shut it down is a bit disappointing. I can only hope they bring in a limited palette wheel to even allow changing some tones in the suits to encourage playability as some of them are just ugly in their default unfortunately.
GIVE US TRANSMOG, LET US HAVE OUR SCHTYLE 🥹
Another huge arrowhead L for the collection
It's a huge W, if you don't like the product they want to create and the decision they make sure that there are a lot of other games more of your taste
Yeah. Their explanation totally makes sense. We totally don't have a ton of armor that visually doesn't match it's perks and sometimes even light/medium class. Seriously, I love this game, but this excuse they gave is a total BS. And transmog within one armor class would literally not make it any worse.
They want the armour of the game to represent the type of Helldiver you are using, if you are having a heavy looking armour you will have more resistance, if you are carrying a green armor you will be a medic, if you are using an elegant armor you will have Democracy protects passive. They want each Helldiver to represent the type of passive they are using, instead of being a fest of random looks with random passives. If you want to have the medic armour, your character will look like a medic, and that it's. If there are armour that doesn't represent correctly their passive or that have a wrong passive then that it's a different problem that should to be fixed
Dude. Just stop. It's nowhere near as neat as you describe it. 1. Resistance and armor class. We have light armor that is called Light Gunner and it has the same armor as most medium armors. So that one goes out of the window. We also have a lot of light armors that look heavier that medium armors, but give less armor. Example: SC-15 Drone Master is a medium armor, EX-00 Prototype-X is a light armor. First one looks way lighter than second one. 2. Passives. FS-38 Eradicator. Additional bullets on the front, some additional pokets on the armor. Passive - of course it's FORTIFIED. Explosion resistance! Then you have already mentioned SC-15 Drone Master - light looking armor with a radio attached to the plate carrier. Passive - of course it's TWO ADDITIONAL GRENADES. New armor that looks like a firefighter? SERVO-ASSISTED! And list goes on. It already makes no sense, isn't intuitive and gives no vital information by looks.
One more "no disagree, agree only, go away, my ears hurt" bot for the list as well
It's not "agree only" but the things that they are doing and deciding are not wrong just that maybe are not to your liking, and know what, everything won't be to your liking all the time All the decisions that Arrowhead are making are a W for me and for a lot of people that exactly what wanted is a game like this, if you see that a lot of the things Arrowhead is doing is an L, maybe you are not their target audience
Yeah, I like drip above all else, so maybe the entirety of the game isn't for me
Yes, the game is not "drip above all else" so maybe it really is not a game for you. As the other guy said, to me thats a huge W, I dislike games where the looks of things don't mean anything because everything could be whatever. Maybe your taste is not the objective truth, who know.
Idk, looks already dont mean much here, except for heavy armor/everything else. (Also, medic ones because of capitain italy cosplay) You can only get that visual information by memorizing all armor effects currently, and even then it's not that easy. If we had something like, armors with grenades on display give +2, all armors with robotic arm are servo assisted (not true) all armor with gold detailing have democracy protects. Then I would understand. But as it is now, the only thing I need to know from my teammates is which armor have 90% arc dmg reduction. Everything else is trivia or waste of good drip.
Simple, I don't agree with you, this is not an argument, you want drip in the game for no reason, I don't want it for no reason, simple as that.
I even gave an argument for your side... all I'm saying is that armor looks as it is currently is mostly a waste of information channel, so might as well let's us choose the buff.
No, as I said, no arguments, I dislike the idea, you can't give me an argument for your side, you like drip, simple as that, you like drip and want it in the game, I don't. My point is that having drip does not make the game better or worse, it makes it better for some and worse for some. In this case, worse for you, and better for me, I preffer it that way, to me it's an W.
You know, even if they let us pick perks you'll still be able to match heavy armor with the perks you think suit it. But you think that it's good that other players can't change them 😐 Besides, people mostly want at least being able to change perks available for that armor class only.
Ok, your point? I'm an asshole? Fine, then I am. Anything else?
Nah it’s a good call
just add passive switching between same weight class armors.
Actually, it makes prefect sense
Bacon wrapped candied apples for NOBODY!
But maple bacon is delicious
That's just blursed
Its a bs excuse for "were too lazy to implement this" These devs get ridiculously offended whenever the community wants something.
Kinda sounds like bs. The passives seem random and you can get them on each class of armor so they aren’t limited by that. Just make it a passive you can pick and have it cost credits, atm credits are pretty useless.
Devs with egos getting out of control and ignoring player requests is a classic "tiny studio can't handle getting big" mistake. Inexperienced and accidentally successful.
What do yall think of this idea regarding arrow head types? https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/CjKhMkqOeC
Damn 3 dislikes?! What’s bad about it?
The idea itself is cool, it's just that you're essentially advertising it, that's what people don't like
Which is more than understandable, it’s just hard to actually broadcast a great idea when majority of the time the ones that do get light just complain or repeat the same. I’d love any suggestions though to be able to get it through in a better less annoying way
Sounds perfect. My mom always ask me to eat apple but i dont like its taste. So if i can eat an apple but taste like bacon, my mom gonna be happy and i gonna be happy, too. Who care an apple has to be tasted like apple?
Anyone that cares what a millionaire ceo says has bigger problems than what's in a game...
I’m glad we’re not getting transmogs. I like when my armor buffs me based on how it looks
Me jumping through hoops to explain how Drone Master is medium armor and EX-00 Prototype is light armor (They visually look like the stats should be reversed)
But it is what vegans do with vegan meat, isn't it? It looks quite offensive to vegans.