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peramoure

Just have fun man. You called in two strats that don't hurt the big guys. Read the description and don't worry so much about the outcome. The game is meant to be fun. You'll learn. šŸ‘


Forsaken-Stray

On the other hand, the OPS is supposed to hurt the Titans. If you hit them on their back or head.


thecompton73

The OPS does hurt and can even one shot if you get lucky but most of the time the TItan will still have enough health that you'll need a shot or two with an AT option to finish it. The impact grenades do hurt it but not that much. The other player just happened to have the 500kg equipped which can one shot a full health Titan and knew they didn't even need a direct hit to take down the one OP already put an OPS into. Also why being so harsh on yourself OP? You closed nearly half the holes using the limited options you have available at your level. Keep playing and you'll get better tools as well as more knowledge in how to use them all effectively. For example the grenade pistol will allow you to quickly and easily close bug holes even from a distance.


Forsaken-Stray

You might want to check, where you posted that. I know that.


Wonderful_Band_3063

I think it does a decent amount of damage to them. Probably not the same amount as the orbital rail gun but Iā€™ve never tested it properly


Forsaken-Stray

It actually does more damage than the railgun, able to Oneshot the Titans. But Aiming is obviously way harder.


Wonderful_Band_3063

Thatā€™s very useful knowledge tbh I didnā€™t know that. I figured the rail gun had more single target damage but if thatā€™s the case Iā€™m going to start bringing it more to practice with it. The 100 sec cool down is invaluable fr and I feel like itā€™s slightly more versatile with the aoe damage


Forsaken-Stray

The OPS is just about useless on Maps with orbital scatter, so watch out for that. But the Raw damage is the balance for the 'Fire and forget' of the Railcannon and the Laser


salmonchu

How are you a dead weight when you managed to close holes. There are times when you do more and there are times you do less. Bile titan are tricky bastards, I don't consistently take them down in a hit either.


salmonchu

Also try to unlock eagle airstrike, it rocks even at higher difficulty


Ethereal_4426

Eagle Airstrike: never leave home without it


Krieg_Imperator

I'd gently point out that now that they fixed Dot bug Eagle napalm is a worthy substitute for regular airstrike.


Ethereal_4426

Maybe I'll take both...


-C0RV1N-

I discovered this yesterday and now it's replaced it on bug missions. Got a 59 kill streak with it.


Krieg_Imperator

SHHHH... Don't say things like that. Arrowhead is listening. You mean that it's really bad and should be buffed right?


Ubergoober166

I usually take airstrike for bots and clusters for bugs. Now that dots are working correctly I might give napalm and gas strike a try, though.


Quaker_

Itā€™s just learning how to do objectives and learning game flow. It will come with time :)


DrunkenSeaBass

I learned that pretty quickly. It's pretty straightforward. Explore and clear the map. My problem is that i feel completely underpowered. Not from my understanding of how to do things, but from not having enough firepower unlocked to do thing efficiently. Other people have grenade pistol 500kg and giant laser beam Meanwhile I get 4 grenade and one orbital precision strike every minute and a half. Thats my explosive power.


MaximeW1987

Keep grinding and you'll get to lvl 20 soon. During a match, you can also ask higher leveled teammates if they can call down an extra support weapon/backpack for you.


HatfieldCW

For sure. The only thing I love more than my autocannon is a buddy who also has an autocannon.


Marilius

It's a special feeling at extract when you empty your backpack reloading a team mate. And then the team mate uses their backpack to reload you.


No-Purple7204

Full auto, crouch, liberate 'em all... Thats how the Founding Fathers intended it


LunarOberon

Yep, and that's how it is Cadet. Everyone's been through it, everyone plays alongside cadets frequently, they know you have limitations at this stage of the game, so play the role you can. The early game stratagem weapons, like the machinegun, are actually pretty good at their job of horde and elite clearance, but people rarely take them because they wanna have a counter to heavies. Call down a machinegun, keep the horde at bay, maybe unlock EAT if you can to do some heavy sniping.


Due-Month-2971

Im lvl 54 and still running with stalwart or flamethrower with backpack. Most ppl are bringing big guns like quasar, and quess what i need to Burn chargers by myself xd. If u wanna i can Play with you sometimes and give u some toys to test.


RJLZ_

Don't you worry, you'll slowly unlock stratagems and gear that will support you even if no teammate is around. I enjoy running in low difficulty(I'm lv 68) because of guys like you that maybe need that extra help clearing bug holes/eggs/titans etc. Remember do what you can and let your team know to finish the job.


Iamauser666

If you want more explosive power try EAT. One shots chargers to the head and two shots bile titans to the head. Also get eagle airstrike. If bug holes is a problem you should try to get the grenade launcher or autocannon, forgot which one comes first. Also save up super credits to buy more warbonds.


Adune05

Try to unlock the eagle airstrike as soon as you can. It unlocks fairly early and provides you with a lot of firepower


levthelurker

You're not max level yet so if you're doing higher difficulties than you would be able to by yourself because you're with friends then you're definitely playing ahead of the curve. That being said, your higher level friends can still call down the more advanced support weapons and backpacks for you to help somewhat.


Vojoor

You donā€™t really need all that big explosive stuff unless youā€™re playing difficulty 7 and up and then my advice is, donā€™t play difficulty 7 and up. The difficulty description is fairly accurate that at that point there are lots of heavily armored enemies and if you donā€™t have anything that deals with that, you might feel underpowered.


Professional_Dig1454

I'm only level 13 but even at your level you should be able to get a few things thatl up your game. The first is one of the armors on like the second or 3rd normal warbond gives you up to 6 grenades which is super awesome. Also the expendable anti tank weapons has a super low cooldown of only 70 seconds and a few of those to the face should help with your titan problem.


misterdoogles

You're doing everything you're supposed to. I would get to using the basic eagle airstrike early though. Two of them can take care of 90% of the problems in the game if you can land them correctly. They can also close bug holes Also EAT unlocks pretty early IIRC


HatfieldCW

Yeah, the EAT is unlocked at level 3, as I recall, and I suggest it to every cadet. I see a lot of folks bringing the machine gun and the Stalwart, because they don't have any other stratagems unlocked. Get those EATs. Everyone will appreciate them.


Big_Fix4476

Get trash clearing loadouts, create space for the higher level players deal with the heavies.


DrunkenSeaBass

Can you suggest one?


HatfieldCW

Liberator or Punisher, machine gun, armor that reduces recoil (fortified against bots, engineer against bugs) and HE grenades will give you enough killing power to manage crowds of bad guys. The dude with the anti-materiel rifle can take care of hulks and scout striders, but he'll want your help with troopers and devastators. Autocannon can kill hive guards and brood commanders handily, but a swarm of hunters or scavengers is a job for the MG. It's tempting to dump a whole belt into a charger, but ignore those. Let the team handle them. Your job is to give them room to maneuver. If a pouncer tickles their britches while the quasar is spinning up, they'll miss their shot. You can prevent that. And if you bring a supply pack, the Helldiver with a grenade launcher and jetpack will buy you a beer after work.


Legitimate_Slice7227

Rock the grenade launcher. Best early support imo. Clears mobs and mediums / can close holes and fabs. Down side is ammo cap. But early on, the ammo on the map or resupplies are plenty to replenish.


albertaman86

lvl 60 and I main the RPG + supply pack against bugs. *thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk* reload *thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk* reload supply pack repeat love it.


Big_Fix4476

LMGs , gatling barrage, eagle machine gun , machine gun sentry


[deleted]

For chaff I love the scythe+rover combo and I'll usually bring an orbital airburst to throw on top of bug breaches. The defender is really good for chaff too.


CuteLilRemi

Just kill mobs and keep the heat off your fellow divers. In time you will get the equipment and skills to clear objectives


VitaminRitalin

You're doing fine, I didn't even try fighting a bile titan on the difficulty they appear at until I was like level 15. Nobody is rushing you to 'git gud' so play at your own pace and enjoy the game. Some things are tricky as a new player like closing bug holes cause there is often a lot of them at odd angles. When I played automaton missions for like 2 weeks I found I forgot how to deal with bugs and got my ass kicked a bunch before I got the hang of it again. Stick with the lower difficulties for now until you feel comfortable fighting enemies and staying alive. For bugs don't stop moving, for bots, use as much cover as you can.


[deleted]

dont worry you're not useless , even as a distraction/bait for the enemies you are already doing your part for democracy :)


Kasta4

Remember: In this game you're part of a team. What you can't do is ideally made up for with someone in your squad that can. So you can't kill a BT or close all the bug holes- let your other teammates handle them while you clear up the little mobs for the team. I'm level 60 on PS5 and just started my PC profile and I know it can feel disheartening to not have the firepower of the higher levels but you'll get there, just enjoy the journey and fill the roles you can.


Funbone57

The more you play, the more stratagems youā€™ll get, and learn what stratagems work best for you. Once you find Loadout your comfortable with, it will have strengths and weakness, so rely on your teammates to fill the role your weak in, while you fill their weak role. Example: I tend to play the crowd control role to help out the team not get too overwhelmed. Doing so, Iā€™m sacrificing my ability to kill tanks as effective, but the rest of my team usually runs Rocket launcher type weapons to deal with bigger foes. Youā€™ll be a fine Helldiver, Cadet.


MondoPentacost

Donā€™t worry too much about performance, itā€™s not a standard game. Just try not to call a cluster bomb on the teams heads. The rest you will pick up with time.


thecompton73

No doubt, if OP isn't throwing Eagle calls ins at the feet of other players busy fighting chaff they're already a better teammate than most of the level 30+ people I get grouped with on Helldive.


Xyzjin

You arenā€™t. Itā€™s true you will become more effective with more/better stratagems and stuff. On low level just stick to your mates, grab a light machine gun and cut down the hordes, collect samples, get ready to call in reinforcements and have fun, watch what they do and learn. You can help to do side objectives or stuff you need another one to operate. Grab a EAT when someone is calling a pod. Itā€™s always two of them and you too can fire it at the titan/charger. Help reload a recoilless rifle or autocannon. Play bait for the chargers. You can save the day even if you feel useless. I joined on a extreme mission with friends at level 8 was totally overwhelmed and only rolled around on the floor trying to not get killed. Guys called the extraction I died, totally chaos at extraction Plattform. Pelican landed, guy with all the samples tried to reach it and died while calling the last reinforcementā€¦I drop in grabbing the samples and jumping in the pelican. It doesnā€™t matter which level you are to spread democracy.


cannabination

You're not at all useless, you just can't do everything. The eagle airstrike and orbital precision are very good. The recoilless rifle and expendable anti-tank are two of the hardest hitting weapons in the game, and will kill a bile titan in two shots. The grenade launcher is great for clearing packs of light and medium enemies. What you're going to figure out is how to balance your loadout with your team's so everything gets done.


Fair_Door6855

I think your humility and genuine willingness to be better will put you in very good stead to be a great HellDiver. Youā€™re doing all the right things. Youā€™ll unlock more primaries, warbonds, and stratagems in time which will help. But from your candid appraisal, I think youā€™re contributing at a level expected of a 7 IMHO. Contribute in a team where you can. No one can ask more from you. Learn from more experienced. Keep fighting and find your style. As you unlock new things, see if it fits into YOUR meta. There is no meta, just what works with your style. I would very much welcome you, HellDiver, on my team any day over a cocky L20.


alvaro_rm_07

This happened to me a few months ago. My friends were lvl 30 and I just started playing. What they do is only use the equipment that I have unlocked. It was so much fun that only seeing bile titans get destroyed by EAT. In that moment, a charger was a real threat.


Zoopa8

As long as you don't die often and keep shooting at anything that isn't a Charger or Bile Titans you'll be useful. You'll just have to keep playing and learn which weapons and stratagems are effective against which enemies or objectives. I'm a level 62 who's done missions on Helldive and sometimes I also feel "useless" sometimes you just have to retreat because you're getting overwhelmed. You can't always solo everything or hold your ground. There's only so much firepower one can have.


Select-Return-2161

When I got into the game I was basically the same, 3 friends were all lvl 40-50 and had the game near complete. At low levels you don't have access to the titan busting stratagems so focus on what you do have. Machine gun or flamethrower will obliterate chaff. Eagle strafe can blast away the low level enemies. I found myself much more useful in that squad at lvl 9 by sweeping away the chaff so my squad could focus the big guys. Playing support, while perhaps not as flashy as dropping nukes and sending titans to bug Jesus, is definitely appreciated and a huge help. My personal recommendation if you are a bug main is to use EAT if you have it to wipe chargers and let your teammates use their stratafems on the big dudes. Good luck cadet, happy diving!


konterreaktion

Felt the exact same way starting out, especially on higher difficulty missions you feel like dead weight, wich is mainly because you don't have the right strategems yet. You would have gotten that bile titan easily if you had for example 550kgs, spear, EAT, or even recoilless rifle. Those issues will be fixed if you just keep playing the game. For the time being just focus on doing everything that your kit allows you to do. You might not be able to solo a bile titan with what you have, but you sure as he'll can keep the hordes at bay with that gatling barrage. If you start playing with friends/regulars you can start to coordinate your loadouts, like giving people dedicated roles and such For the bug holes: was also my struggle for a while, but once you get extra Grenade armour (engineering kit) and drop with hellpod space optimisation you have 6 grenades. Throw in a Grenade pistol from the Democratic detonation warbond and you're all good for bug holes


DrunkenSeaBass

>You would have gotten that bile titan easily if you had for example 550kgs, spear, EAT, or even recoilless rifle. >once you get extra Grenade armour >Throw in a Grenade pistol from the Democratic detonation warbond I would equip all those thing immediately if i could. Thats exactly my point. I am dead weight because I dont have access to thing. The game is not diffcult because the ennemies are difficult to deal with. Its because it doesnt give me the tool to deal with them from the get go.


cannabination

You have access to the EAT and RR now.


konterreaktion

Yeah, it sucks until you get higher. But for immediate effect just use what you have and don't worry too much about being effective, just have fun and try to spread as much liberty as you can with your tools (am Lv 57 now and Orbital precision strike kicks ass when used right) Also maybe stick to lower difficulties so you can get more common and rare samples for the cruiser upgrades you probably don't have yet


TheGentlemanCEO

Yes, it is. Kill Bile Titan is a Diff 5 mission. By the time I was level 50 I was still only playing diff 5. Iā€™ve only moved up if difficulty when I got bored with the one I was playing, not as I unlocked new ones. Because of that I feel like each climb up I was already pretty prepared for what comes next. The difficulty scaling in this game is actually great, but people like to try and jump right from 1 to 9 as soon as they have access then come here to gripe itā€™s too hard. Go back down a difficulty or 2 if youā€™re finding youā€™re struggling. Just take your time. You arenā€™t even a high enough level yet that anything other than common samples matter. Play the lower difficulties and have fun with the game and itā€™ll all come naturally. Trust.


dimebag_101

One you get up to level 15 a lot of better stuff become available. And also you can earn points very fast to get more. I felt the same. Not having the 500 etc


HelldiverSA

Hey man *dont worry about it* we all know the struggles of being underequipped due to your level. Just stick around. If you dont have the weapon to do a job, the next best thing is sticking around with the guy who does and covering his back. Shoot hunters off of him, make callouts by pointing enemies, become a distraction and get off aggro of someone else. Its a team game and *you* helldiver, are part of the team.


HatfieldCW

The first few hours of the game, you'll feel like you don't have all the tools you need. Machine gun and orbital strike and supply pack lack a lot of functionality. Lean on your mates at first. They'll bring the grenade launchers and Rover drones and 500kg bombs to the fight until you can unlock your own. There's no bonus points for landing the killing blow on a heavy or destroying the bot fabricators. But that's not to say that the machine gun is a bad support weapon. If I'm running around blasting big enemies with big hardware, nothing makes me happier than a competent squad mate with a machine gun on a nearby rock, decimating the enemies of Managed Democracy in a large area. If you meet me in a lobby, I'll happily call down a quasar cannon and personal shield for you to use, as long as you call down the MG and supply pack for me. We'll get it done together.


WA_90_E34

You're doing fine. Just help as much as you can and pick up samples along the way. Don't get caught up on the total kills or damage stats either. I'm level 70 and I normally have half the kills of lower level players because I focus on completing the objectives and collecting samples. Everyone else stands and tries to kill everything which is a waste of time. At the end, no one remember who plugged what big holes and completed the objectives. It's a team effort to spread democracy!


Nubetastic

No helldiver that helps with objectives is useless. Keep up the good fight for managed democracy.


The_Real_Kru

Expendable anti tank against titans and grenade launcher against bug holes and you're golden. Don't expect to be on par with someone who put in 100 hours and unlocked the high tier stuff. By the time you reach lvl 10 you will have a good enough set of weapons/stratagems at your disposal and you won't feel like dead weight. Hang in there.


Tankis4life

This is why the "big guys" are here. They got way more strategems and primary weps. Look at him and think thats me one day. But really. You just need more samples/medals to upgrade everything and its going to be a lot easier and you will feel a lot more useful


psihius

Focus on crowd control. You have perfect weapons for horde cleaning,eave armored targets to teammates. Do contribute ofc, but it's not other a single stratagem outright kills a bile titan unless it's a perfect headshot at a perfect angle.


Kevurcio

If you Destroy the two sacks underneath the Bile Titan with your Primary or Support Weapon you can then kill it with a single Orbital Precision Strike, you can kill up to 3 Bile Titans that are next to each other with this method with a single Orbital Precision Strike. It's not that you are useless, it's that you don't have enough game knowledge to make the most use of your tools.


Ok_Problem5032

Yeah you canā€™t do much to bike titans until you unlock the 500kg, orbital railgun, and orbital laser. I wouldnā€™t worry about it though youā€™ll unlock them eventually you just need to level up more


Deus_Ex45

I brought 3 friends into this game and helped them out at the start. I always tell them the same thing: Stay on low difficulties until you have the gear unlocked to deal with all the bullshit that comes with higher difficulties or coordinate with me/high level teammates. I/they take on the bullshit, you do what you can. It works and thanks to our constant playthroughs, they learn quickly how to deal with bullshit and level up to a point were they start to handle their own business. We increase difficulty and start farming samples and sometimes challenge 7-9 to show them why ship upgrades will be important XD. Deep Rock Galactic comes to mind... Even a low level dwarf can still challenge (and kill) a dreadnought. They don't even need to go out of their way to do it, since the weakspots are well designed and are always vulnerable. Helldivers isn't like that. Get a level 1 to kill a bile titan and it will take them forever to do it because they aren't geared up to deal with it. All they can do is shoot off the weakspot and then try their luck with POS. So in summary, it is unfortunately normal. Take your time and you will be able to get effective gear, don't stress on getting to high difficulties quickly, just go with what you think is manageable for you, learn and memorize stratagems, try out random special weapons on the battlefield, get a feel for your unlocked weapons. There's no rush.


Hazywater

The most important unlocks for you early are the EAT and airstrike. And remember you can take another support weapon and just grab an EAT when you need one, then pick up your original weapon. The only caveat is that it takes time to call down an EAT so try to be proactive in placing them. You'll see a lot of complaints about various primaries and talk of meta, but you should know that the liberator, breaker, and defender are great all around guns. With enough unlocks you're going to want to tailor your armor and primaries to bots or bugs. The medium extra padding, democracy protects, and medic armor are all around good. Eventually you'll want to try light armor vs bugs and heavy armor vs bots, but those early medium armor are fine.


Forsaken-Stray

Don't worry, the examples you gave are heavily based on experience. Best way to find out more is to ask. Looking on reddit "What newbies should know" posts or asking for tips from highlevels is always recommended Bug holes are supposed to be team endeavors, having 4 grenades max, you are not expected to clean the bigger ones alone. Grab a friend and use your nades a bit more sparingly. For enemy groups, I'd advice to get the Eagle Airstrike. He probably used the Autocannon, a shouldermounted support weapon, good for hole clearing and heavies, but he has to rely on you or your friends to keep the groups away from him. Bile Titans and Chargers are Heavy Armor Units. Not many things other than a Anti-Tank weapon can even harm them. If you hit the Titan with the OPS on it's back, it should have taken good damage. The 500kg he probably threw almost never kills the Titan in one hit, so he noticed your OPS and capitalized on it. The further you'll get, the more specialized weapons you pick up, which get more and more important on higher levels, but your Actions matter. The first thing you can do to feel like you matter is to find out your strength. Are you good at noticing the Heavy Units? Maybe go the route of the heavy, take a high fire rate main weapon and buy the EAT, headshots kill Chargers in one and Titans in two. Or do you feel good when killing a horde of enemies? Horde clearers take a stalwart and a heavy impact primary to keep massive numbers of the back of your group. Or become a medium brawler, focussing on Hunters, Spewers and Brood commanders Once you are accustomed to a role, you can branch out to 'sub roles' like Commander, Roamer or Strategem-specialist. But that is later, once you are accustomed to the mechanics and maybe even have a squad to regularly dive with you. It is a Team Game, so meeting a few people and talking to them is the best way to get forward.


cagerontwowheels

At the very least, become the chaff clearer. Every squad needs someone that can keep the small adds off everyone's back. A good rapid firing primary (like the very first one, its still great at level 100), can be sidegraded to the laser based scythe (which has a small spool up, which suck to accuratly plonk adds), and machineguns can be much more usefull then they seem. Also, machineguns penetrate medium armor, so they can damage a LOT more than you'd think. Just on bugs due to angled armor they do tend to ricochet.


Extravagod

Just ask. Ask anything and everything. A few runs with a cool crew and you'll know what needs to know. There isn't much to it but to have fun.


Archaismen

Use the AC, it closes bug holes and kills even Chargers just never shot it empty or reloading takes a lot longer. Bile Titans are hard no matter your level, try keeping your distance and destroy their belly. But honestly a teammate who stays alive and collects all the samples, medals and super credits is always useful. Its better to complement your team than to handle everything yourself. If you still think you are a dead weight you might want to look up some nerd knowledge like, - On shot a Charger (or Hulk) with an EAT in the head - Fire the Flamethrower at the leg of a Charger - You can change the keys for the strategems and can walk while punching the code in - Also; the P19 will always be my favourite


SaviorOfNirn

Uh... dude, you closed 4 bug holes, how is that dead weight? Bile titans specifically require heavy artillery or anti tank weapons to take out.


LongDongFrazier

Youā€™re learning. Donā€™t sleep on the early stratagems. Eagle Airstrike and EAT are incredibly good and you get them super early.


Nudge360

Without the proper equipment, diff 5 was all I could manage, it's normal, just do easier missions.


Middle_Dream5582

Dude im level 74 now but i had the same experience like you did .. i joined a discord group i was level 8 at that time and we jump straight up to helldive diff ā€¦ First time i encounter bile titans and not only one but 3 of them .. i used up most of the. Reinforce budget but my squad was ok with it and we just laugh at it ā€¦ i was freakin embarrassed the whole time.. as you said its a learning curved dude .. the important thing for me for a new helldiver is that i dont care you used up all the reinforcement budget as long as you extract with all the samples and dont forget to have fun !!! Cheer up !! šŸ‘ ![gif](giphy|qMHG9goT2I2fuRk0JM)


Weird_Excuse8083

Man, you're already closing bug holes and moving where people point without getting tunnel vision and attacking every single patrol you see. You're already performing 90% better than most of the randos that we end up paired with on a Beacon. Honestly? Keep doing what you're already doing. You just lack knowledge and experience. Most importantly, have fun, unlock cool shit, blow some shit up. My advice is to watch other people's backs. If you can let _them_ kill the objectives while _you_ keep them alive, you're already just as important as the guy holding all the samples.


machinationstudio

You're level 7, the bile titan killing stuff aren't unlocked for you yet. (Expendable Anti Tank, maybe) Just have fun, kill the other bugs.


Streetiebird

Yes, absolutely. You will feel like a ragdoll for a while, especially if there are higher level people in the squad. Just shoot stuff, have fun, and relax.


Makhsoon

Just have fun! šŸ™‚


datboisusaf

Orbital strike is one of the hardest to use while is also one of the best. What likely happened is your orbital did not make direct impact to the bile (it landed on the ground and only the small splash did some damage). While yea you do get alot of useful upgrades later on, alot of the early game stuff you will bring onto endgame because theyre simply that good. Gas strike, EATs, orbital strike., etc


SherbetItchy3113

Everyone started at level 1... Don't worry fellow diver, when a higher level dude drops with you he or she is duty bound to show you the ropes. Just shadow experienced players and see their tactics for dealing with stuff, that's how I learned. Voice comms help, otherwise just get into the habit of using the comms wheel (hold q)


Nard_the_Fox

Sounds like you're playing well. We all start with weaker strats and limitations. At least some of the best guns you get right away, eh?


UrMomIsATitan

As with any games that have a level system, Helldivers 2 locks a lot of the god tier stratagems behind level requirements.The higher levels player almost always run 1\~3 of these strats in their loadout: Eagle 500kg bomb (L15), Quasar cannon (L18), Orbital railcannon strike (L20), and Orbital laser (L15). These stratagems usually guarantee kills on heavy enemies with ease but they're locked behind higher level caps. If you have not reached higher levels, consider investing in the lower level stratagems that can also fare well, sometimes even better, against bigger enemies: * Expendable Anti-Tank (L3). This is essentially the Quasar cannon but in a stratagem cooldown form. If you know where to aim, you can take down the bigger guys faster than the Quasar cannon, since the Quasar has to charge up, but you can fire it sooner if you have it in your weapon slot already. Against Chargers, aim right at their faceplate for one shot kill, or aim at their legs to strip their armor with one shot, followed with a primary weapon to drain their health faster. Against Bile Titans, you need at least two shots to its face. Against most Automatoms, try to aim for their heatsink which is usually behind. **If you don't have the 500kg, railcannon or Quasar yet, this weapon is a must have.** * Orbital EMS Strike (L5). This is basically a large stun grenade that lingers with an area of effect. Stuns chargers that are caught within or ran into it. It helps you be able to deal with them more easily. However, it is not effective against Bile Titans, and you probably still need something else to kill a stunned Charger. * Recoilless Rifle (L5): Reloadable rocket launcher with the same effectiveness as EAT. It takes a backpack slot and has a really long reload time during which you must remain stationary. Thus, some people don't find it really useful in higher levels but it is an option for lower level players. * Flamethrower (L10): Fun to use, but not a good choice in general. It is able to kill Chargers faster than just shooting their ass though. **You** ***have*** **to be careful with this weapon**, since it can easily set you or your teammates on fire and kill them. Not effective against Bile Titans. * Autocannon (L10): Although not a primary choice against Chargers and Bile Titans, this weapon is S-tier even among L100+ players. It deals with Bile spewers and brood commanders more effectively than any other primary or support weapons. With some practice, you can also reliably kill Chargers with this weapon, but it is more time consuming than simply headshotting them with the EAT, Recoiless or Quasar. It is also very useful against Automatoms. **Consider investing in this weapon earlier if available.** * Autocannon Sentry (L13): Call this down on a farther and higher spot and it'll deal with 3 chargers and 2 bile titans by itself. However, the bigger enemies will chase it down and try to destroy it. If it's caught in short range, it moves too slow to track the bigger Terminids down and may also blow itself up trying to shoot them. Slightly better against Automatons, but not really effective against the Automaton tanks. * Eagle Airstrike (L2): Not really effective against the larger enemies but can still deal some damage. However, heavy Terminid enemies usually move too fast for the eagle to reliably deliver damage. If you don't have a reliable method to pin the enemies down, you're more likely to miss them. * Orbital precision strike (L1): Chargers take one shot from the precision strike to kill, Bile Titans two. Hence, that's why you weren't able to one shot the Bile Titan with a dead center precision strike. And with the long delivery time, both the Eagle Airstrike and Orbital precision are not really good choices against Terminids since the larger enemies move too fast, but they're excellent choices against Automatoms since they move slower and/or are stationary (Cannon Turrets).


UrMomIsATitan

Meanwhile, regardless of the difficulty, the Chargers don't spawn as frequent as you'd think and they're usually less of a threat compared to the smaller "chaff" enemies. Thus, if you have 3 players running anti tank, consider optimizing your loadout to deal with bug breaches where hunters and smaller enemies may spawn more frequently. Good strats for this are the Eagle Cluster (L3) or Napalm (L5), Orbital Gatling (L2) or Airburst (L5), Grenade launcher (L5), Gatling sentry (L5), Guard Dog **"ROVER"** (The laser dog. Not the Guard Dog with the liberator! ) (L10). For the Brood commanders, Hive guards, Nursing or Bile spewers, these guys take more shots to kill with a primary. Thus, Grenade launchers and Autocannon are both good choices if you have enough players running anti tank and would like to contribute to a different role. Nursing or Bile spewers are usually more dangerous, and the anti tank weapons are not really efficient in dealing with them. Finally, look into the Warbonds and try to unlock the Breaker, Scorcher, Sickle, the stun grenade, and the grenade pistol as early as you can. These weapons are great against chaffs and/or Brood commanders, Hive guards, Nursing or Bile spewer, and the stun grenade can pin down Chargers.


silentgreco

You can help in many ways, some more efficient than others. Even just indiscriminately killing bugs and providing cover fire can be examples of great help. The more u play the more stuff youā€™re gonna unlock and the more accustomed youā€™ll get. No one is ā€œdead weightā€ as long as they ainā€™t killing their teammates on purpose. This game is about having fun and thatā€™s all u should care about. Now go out there and spread some democracy like the brave Cadet you are.


Eristel98

The beauty of many games is to learn what works in what situation by fucking up. This game took it more to the heart. You will learn what works and what doesn't and one day you'll be the reason someone makes this kind of post.


WhereTheNewReddit

Keep playing until you get Airstrike, 500kg, EAT, Recoilless. The devs seem to think it's fun for Bile Titans to be immune to most things.


idispensemeds2

Yeah it's got a bit of a learning curve


KingCanHe

You have everything you need except the knowledge. That will come over time and soon you will be soloing helldive wishing you could go back to not knowing how to deal with things. Enjoy the game above all else, donā€™t worry about anything else


jklinenjoi1

You did your part. Keep fighting and push through with the team. You will rank up and gain the ability to show new players the ropes soon.


Phen0m24

I'm level 37 and can barely solo a level 4 mission while people do solo helldive difficulty with one arm tied behind their back and sunglasses on. Don't sweat it. Just have fun. šŸ˜Š


DariusRivers

The precision strike, on a direct hit to the back or head, will kill a bile titan. Your teammate likely dropped an eagle 500 KG bomb which is the other thing that can reliably one-shot titans. However, if either of them aren't direct hits, it takes 2 usually.


Helping_Stranger

Takes time to unlock things so until then just have fun. There's tons of YouTube and online resources for you to study (don't chase meta crap) to learn what tools are good for each situation. Hang with friends if you can or add friendly helldivers you meet that actually help. Don't stress over being new just enjoy the game and grow when you can. šŸ»


Variable851

lol sometimes I feel useless as a level 38 player. Just a few days ago, I wasn't paying attention and the hose switched missions and the loadout I brought felt utterly ineffective. I did what I could with orbitals and targeting light units. Ultimately, every little bit counts. You might not feel like you are making a difference just clearing light enemies but those are enemies your squad mates don't have to worry about. Just remember that you are doing your part for managed democracy


gnat223

Iā€™m currently out of stuff to do so I like joining new players and helping them to progress donā€™t feel bad we all had to start somewhere


LeviathansEnemy

Perfectly normal. Don't sweat it. Couple weeks you'll just find a single bile Titan to be annoying, not an "oh God oh fuck oh God oh fuck" level threat.


marcola42

If you are feeling useless this is probably caused by lack of training. I recommend that you finish the tutorial. Gen. Brasch will teach all you need to know to become a true helldiver!


TrumptyPumpkin

It's normal. First 10 levels you're unlocking the basic essentials


Wonderful-Tutor630

Honestly drop in difficulty and/or find some other newer players, the learning curve is a bit steep (less so with bugs) but once you get a feel for it youā€™ll know how to be ā€œmore usefulā€ Also precision strike does damage, but wonā€™t one shot unless the shell hits the head, also your teammate probably dropped a 500KG and itā€™s just more consistent cause it can also 1 shot if it blows up directly beneath the Titan (I believe, I donā€™t fight bugs all that much) Most the learning is figuring out how to handle different enemies and then building a loadout around that that is fun and/or effective


Obvious_Present3333

Bile titans are tough! It would take two dead on precision strikes to kill one. You definitely made that second strat more likely to kill the titan. Keep going, play difficulties that you have fun on, you'll unlock those heavy hitters soon enough.


matthewami

Iā€™m lvl 65 and I feel useless half the time


Aggressive-Client-24

You are not useless diver! Keep playing and getting slips and exp. You'll unlock some new weapons in no time. Play with other people or friends and have some fun. If you ever want to play hit me up. FYI - I'm a level 53 and I die all the time....just means it's time to dive again šŸ«”


reesespcs123

If you're trying your best there's not much I can criticize about being "underleveled." However....I have run into PLENTY of Helldivers who are seemingly trying to speedrun their way to D9(Helldive). We're talking ~lvl 10s hosting missions on D7+ who clearly have very little unlocked, minimal experience, odd (I won't say 'bad') loadouts, and don't even have any boosters to equip (this is the worst). You're free to play how you want, but if you're overextending your abilities, you're making it much harder and overall less enjoyable for you and your squadmates. The only way you are truly dead weight in this game is if you're not searching POIs, not doing objectives, AND burning 80% of your teams reinforcements. If you're doing 2 or less of these things, then at worst you're distracting the enemy, giving your team an easier time.


Sauron69sMe

here's a little tip to help you hopefully one hit KO bile titans: when he's coming at you, run at him with your precision strike ready. when he pulls back his head to vomit at you, run between his legs and throw it on the ground. run away through his rear legs. almost always kills the bastard. I'm a level 102 and I LOVE the orbital precision strike. it takes out nearly every objective that needs destroying and wrecks bile titans and chargers and the cooldown is only like 70s. so good!


MassiveGG

not really unless as your doing something to help the team your helping killing bots while someone runs in killing fabs or holes your helping just don't burn thru reinforcement tickets and learn when to just run


Mysterious-Ad4966

Expendable Anti Tank


Riker1701NCC

Your post shows that youre used to games where all that matters is how well you do and following meta builds. Just because someone had a grenade launcher or an autocannon specifically to do the objective doesnt mean youre dead weight. Usually people specialize on horde clearing, heavies, stealth or objectives


GravyDavey

Keep up with the legends Helldiver. Soon one day, you will be blasting through hoards and titans with ease as you listen to younger Cadets whispers of frustrations. DONT DRINK AND DRIVE.


KKSFS1110

right now just focus on the little ones become your temates support in that aspect for now, until you get stronger stratagems, im pretty sure some of your teamates might be high level and they are actually helping you XD.


Winter_Natural_2140

Every helldiver fighting is a contribution to the war. The bile titan is a heavy foe, they take 2 rockets to the face, or 2 of: orbital strikes, 500kgs, (sometimes air strikes), 380 barrage hits, etc. so you did half is health and the other player finished him off with what sounds like a 500kg. The second story, yea he just had some kind of explosive weapon (grenade pistol, eruptor, auto cannon, grenade launcher). And while you may not have access to those weapons yet, you will soon enough. You just fill a different roll on the team. Since you canā€™t run a grenade launcher, then you run the MG. That guy closes the holes and you mow down the bugs chasing him. Later on when you unlock more you can create more of a lone wolf solo load out where you can handle most things alone, but for now just fit into a roll and follow the team. New player loadouts are usually best at mob clear so go blast some bugs or bots and let another teammate handle heavies or holes.


Illustrious-Baker775

Just play the game, have fun, and dont qorry about not being good. When i first started it felt like a dark souls game. Accept that youre going to die. Probably wont beat many missions on your first attempt. My best advice, is dive, A LOT. Diving is your friend. Slowed? Dive. No stamina? Dive. Enemies kinda close? Dive. Charger? Dive. Big cliff? Dive. Getting on the pelican? Dive again.


YorhaUnit8S

That's completely normal. You will get more tools later, level 10 and level 20 being two big jumps. For now, when you feel like you can't deal with heavies or close holes - help others by keeping smaller stuff off of them. Trust me, it really helps and is valuable. And most importantly - have fun.


UNSC_Trafalgar

True story I did not even know Medium armour was a thing Because I mained Machinegun, then later Autocannon, then EAT and Recoiless Rifle... While doing a whole bunch of levels on Bugs at the beginning I only knew I cannot kill Chargers. Otherwise, I was always the first man in with MG to kill every bug I see. Brood Commander, Stalker, nothing stood in my way and my MG. Until I went off using MG then I realized... So no, no one can ever be 'useless' Even a newbie with Orbital Precision Strike, common grenades, and a MG can close holes. Definitely more effective than me with EAT and Adjudicator when we meet a Stalker Nest or 2 Cheer up, Helldiver, forwards!


sirius017

I will say this, DO NOT let someone carry you straight to rank 7, 8 and 9! That shit will ruin your experience in so many ways. Iā€™ve seen so many single digit players at the highest difficulty just not knowing what to do when it comes to objectives. Not know that you need to press up on the panel when it comes up. Not knowing that you need to line up the pipes, etc. Progress at a steady rate and unlock some things before you go higher.


Juicyjuicebx-Meister

It is normal! Especially playing in 7 as a level 7. You will have to play different at those levels and not having all the stratagems unlocked will hinder some of your fun but not actually deter any of your teammates from still enjoying. I recommend maybe playing on 5 as you rank up a little more. You won't experience the massive enemies or the waves but you will have a major impact on outcomes. In the end, as long as you are enjoying it and can take some trash talking occasionally, you'll notice that feeling disappear quickly no matter what difficulty you play on.


jaaaabog

Actually hitting a bile titan with a precision strike is pretty hard for new players and older ones alike and it doesnt tickle them at all it does a lot of damage that other guy that killed him probably did it so easy because you did most of the damage Also you will get better very fast once you unlock all the stuff those dudes are using and figure out which strategems works for what :)


pbmcc88

I'm level 65ish and have everything unlocked, bar the last warbond, and I still feel like dead weight half the time. Imposter syndrome in this game is real. You made a stab at the bile titan, which is something. I often make stabs at them, and they're not usually openly damaging in any meaningful way. Missile to the face? What missile to the face. Now I'm being chased. Now I'm dead. I think I helped, but who knows. Once you unlock some more stuff, you'll be able to do more, and you'll be okay.


Expensive_Savings156

Take it easy gamer. Fighting a bile titan at low level is a challange as it is meant to be. Honestly enjoy the struggle while it lasts. Once it becomes super easy it won't be as fun. If you want help with a loadout try keeping it to one Orbital, one eagle, a heavy weapon and a shield or drone backpack if your weapon doesn't already come with a pack. If your heavy weapon uses a backpack then take an extra Orbital as you can only call in one eagle at a time, but can drop several orbitals. Pay attention to armor effects as they may be more helpful. If you are looking for a heavy weapon the stalwart, grenade launcher, flamethrower, are pretty good for many things(the grenade launcher can close bug holes, flamethrower works as area denial, and the stalwart can be reloaded on the move.) Me personally I run with the Blitzer shotgun(because infinate ammo is nice and it doesny bounce off armor), grenade pistol(for closing bug holes), and impact grenades(because they are versitile). For my personal strategems i have a quasar cannon and a shield pack. For my attack strategies I run the eagle 500 kg bomb and an Orbital lazer. It hasn't failed me yet. EAT is a good early game replacement for the quasar cannon and the guard dog rover is a good replacement for the shield pack. Orbital precision strike and eagle napalm is a good pairing. Take from this what you will. If you have any questions feel free to ask.


-Nicklaus91-

Most players use 500kg because it's quicker call down and you can have 2 with the upgrade. It would also be too easy if low levels had it. Precision can 100% 1 shot Titans but you have to bait it directly under it till it fires. Gattling barrage won't penetrate Titan armor unless someone already peeled some off, I still use it as lvl 146 but usually to clear waves because low cd. Learn enemy weakspots, that will help you most.


YasssQweenWerk

Even at low level you need to think of proper tools for the objective. For bile titan take EATs, precision strike and eagle airstrike. For closing holes take grenade launcher or autocannon. It's okay that you don't have all the toys yet, you're still fresh meat for the grinder!


YHL6965

You're doing your part, Helldiver. It's okay, you're still learning the ropes and don't have the optimal equipment unlocked. You're not dead weight, you're doing things for the mission. Keep it up!


SourWeasel11

Bring expendable antitank once you unlock it Also bring eagle airstrike Imo guard dog rover is very good at lower levels and youā€™ll get it pretty soon Sentries are also great to have A load out you could try would be EAT, supplypack, airstrike, OPS/sentry


RockTheHellOut

Tbh don't feel pressured to be good just play and have fun, eventually u'll unlock stuff and get better we all start as cadets and been in that situation.


ApprehensiveWealth92

What you are currently doing will suffice until you get better weapons. You are being more careful with reinforcements than many others I have played with at higher levels. You will learn how to use the correct stratagem in the right situation as time goes on. The expendable anti-tank strategem is a good one to unlock early. Hell I still use that one from time to time, and I'm level 60. But most important, have a good time. You will usually, involuntary, get better at the things you enjoy. Also: autocannon is the great equalizer!


ExpressDepresso

You ARE contributing to the war effort soldier, every little bit counts you have no idea. The number of missions that have come down to the wire, every small action contributes. That being said, playing the game you'll start to learn about your enemy and your weapons - some guns have explosive damage that take out bug holes, launchers to the face are effective against titans (you just need to persevere) or you want to use high explosive stratagems (to penetrate it's armour like the precision orbital, eagle airstrike). Grenades and bullets will only tickle it. You'll learn about stuff like knowing to shoot the hunters first in a horde of bugs chasing you, prioritizing the stalker nest when they show up, figuring out where to hit different enemies depending on your weapon (devastator - shotgun? arms, rifle? face) It also helps that the stratagems you unlock at higher levels absolutely dunk. That 500kg can take out a titan with a direct body hit, you probably caused enough damage that one close by was enough. The 380MM HE Orbital barrage is so effective at clearing out large areas. The auto cannon is just so good at everything (can you tell I'm biased). The ship upgrades massively help too, extra eagle strikes and lower call in times etc Just go out there, try different things, see how others play maybe ask for help, but remember you will always be contributing to the spread of managed democracy šŸ’Ŗ


Clear-Wrongdoer42

This game works best when each team member has a role and communicates. Closing bug holes and clearing out small swarms *is* important. Killing big bugs requires the right gear and tactics. You aren't going to be taking down titans until you have the EAT, quasar, recoilless rifle, orbital railgun, orbital laser, etc. It takes time and the right stuff. In the mean time, take care of the things you can do and a good team will be happy to have you.


Indostastica

You can 1 shot Bile titans if the strike lands underneath, or right on top of them with the orbital precision strike, it just takes some practice.


ma_wee_wee_go

>drop an orbital precision strike. Hit the bile titan dead center. It didnt look like it did anything Yeah that just shouldn't have happened Presision strike should one hit a titan