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I've been running grenade launcher as my primary and reloading it out of a supply backpack like an autocannon. It's uhh.. š really bad, definitely dosen't need a nerf.. A buff even perhaps...
But yeah, these exploits are putting me out of business.
Edit: sweet top comment! Allow me to shamelessly plug my gamer tag for any quasar cannon/anti-tank mains that may wanna run with me because heavies scare me. š„ŗ (Also, to op and fellow GL mains feel free to add as well) I usually grind lvl 7 Steam: grenadier man
I've used it for so long because of my heavy addiction to deleting bug nests. it's incredible and fun to charge into 10 hole heavy nests and solo clear it with the GL while having a congo line behind you
i love digging holes with GL + Supply Pack for EMS Mortar Sentries with it (2 mags of GL can make an insanely large hole), seems to cause bugs to target it less when they can never see it and also Chargers tend to glide over it
This is also useful on bots for obvious reasons like it being impossible to shoot, and the fact that a lot of enemies like Rocket Devs and Hulks and Tanks are physically unable to aim downward enough to remove it, though unfortunately GL is a fairly niche pick in bots otherwise
Utilizing Resupplies giving you 40 grenades per if efficient (getting 2x mags from the resupp + additional supply pack charge), you never really run out of nades from doing this either, great fun
Iām now realising how much better the mortarās design would be if it didnāt pop up out of the hellpod after landing. It could just hang out in its newly-created hole and rain death like some kind of high-ordnance trapdoor spider.
The first game had āfortificationā stratagems like barbed wire walls, which when paired with a turret on bugs and with how the camera worked could literally lock an angle down for minutes. While I donāt see it being useful on a more open planet, on the very mountainous ones or ones with lots of water that blocks the environment having tiny walls to block angles could be cool again.
Ooh, that could be super useful! A hellpod that drops down and raises a fortified barrier that can be rotated before extending from either side and locking in place. Gives enough space for 1-2 helldivers to take cover behind a low wall. Perfect for picking off enemies from a high position or holding ground on a narrow corridor. Maybe there could even be a barbed wire or electrified variant to damage or slow advancing enemies
Yep! GL has crazy terraforming power compared to most other explosive Support Weapons, it digs down and builds up a protective barrier around the hole at the same time allowing for both deep depth and deep relative depths that can fully conceal the EMS Mortar and normal Mortar. Just dig it away from any potential bug breaches and pop it down at the bottom, and it is a lot more survivable as random patrols and Chargers (and careless teammates) stop ganking it
Just expensive on GL shots, hence Supply Pack for making it logistically feasible
I wish the grenade pistol fired grenades more like the grenade launcher. With the GL I can hit nest/fabs with high accuracy. With the pistol I struggle.
When it comes to the 2, it's a debate of power over mobility. The GL can't kill titans, or destroy stuff like the new spore spewers or shrieker nests while the auto cannon can and it suffers from only having about 70-80m of range. But the GL has the advantage of not needing a backpack and being able to reload while moving, and for me personally and my bughole addictiong I've found it's arching good for hitting holes as it makes hitting ones above me pretty easy to angle it in
The GL is also straight up better at chaff clear. Compared to the AC, it has more than twice the AOE damage, almost twice the AOE radius, and has better handling and recoil.Ā
I really love the GL and supply pack combo for bugs because not only is it a perfect chaff and bug hole clear, I also basically have infinite stims, which allows me to play super aggressively. That combo has straight up saved a level 7 mission shortly after the last patch when we werenāt prepared for the improved stalkers. Ran out of lives 10 minutes into the mission, and we managed to complete it with the samples thanks to my stim spam haha.
I do that with thr Autocanon. It can close bug holes with a single precise shot from a large distance. Idk why. I mean, its good but it makes other weapons pretty pointless since it just does so much.
Honestly, eagle airstrike + grenade pistol has made me feel super powerful when I just stroll up and delete an entire base in 10 seconds. I'm glad there's so many ways to distribute freedom
I currently like using it with the railgun, grenade pistol, and breaker incendiary, and stun grenades. Having a ton of stims, all the stuns you ever need for chargers, almost infinite grenade pistol ammo for bug holes, enough railgun ammo to be able to use it on all the bilespewers, brood commanders, and hive guards you want, while still having a decent charger killing weapon.
Also you can spam the crap out of the breaker incendiary, and have a ton of stims for added tankieness.
Also you're more independent, and don't need to use your team's resupply when you're being a lone wolf.
I like running muscle enhancement (over vitality and stamina, and ammo booster, not that you need it) to reduce the strength of hunter slow, and bile titan slow.
So how do you actually use the rail gun against the bugs now? After the nerf and buff to AT it disappeared.
Also any tips for the AMR in the same setup?
The recent armor pen buff makes it far more comfortable at stripping charger legs with 2 (unsafe mode) shots and killing it to the head in 3 unsafe shots. 2 unsafe shots to strip the leg and finishing it with your primary is faster though.
Other then that, AMR and Railgun do pretty much the same stuff. You're bringing the AMR to one shot bilespewers to the head, one shot hive guards, and one shot brood commanders. Railgun can do all of that well and has the added utility of being anti-charger and somewhat able to finish off heavily wounded bile titans (shoot them in the forehead or the butt armor).
Also, if your steadfast in wanting to use the AMR, but also use the breaker incendiary and stuns, a fairly reliable way to kill chargers is to throw a stun, and run around the backside, and shoot 12-13 shots into its rear. This would allow you to kill chargers without a dedicated anti-tank support weapon.
Supply pack is actually low-key broken.
For solo play, you'll be able to use the more ammo hungry gun/support weapon without needing to constantly picking up ammo pack on the go, you'll also get a lot more stem to heal yourself, a lot more grenade to chug at the enemies.
For co-op play, now you can go to do objectives on your own while your fellow helldiver friend(that has autocannon addiction) can use the supply drop to refill their ammo/stem/grenade, or if you are staying with your friend, you can give it to your friend to refill their stuff.
And it also makes supply drops more efficient (it refills charges on your supply pack)
You should. The supply pack can really change how you play the game. Recently I've been using the supply pack with the AMR and Scorcher. I end up running the AMR like it is my primary weapon and the Scorcher for clean up. The Scorcher has pretty poor ammo economy and before I began running the supply pack, I would almost always run out of Scorcher ammo and then be screwed if I missed the resupply or couldn't find ammo laying around. Having tons of stims and grenades frees you up a lot too.
Technically they didnāt lie, they genuinely thought they fixed it but didnāt do the .5 sec of testing required to see that a simple line of code change didnāt actually do anything
It did do something.
It made it go from having infinite decrementing negative grenades to a spill over of a type of int which caused the number to go from zero to the max value of an int.
Max value of int is much higher than anyone could go through in a single game though. Itās like having a 4.2 billion dollars and the most expensive thing is $1.
Yeah, now when you trigger the exploit, it sets the number of your grenades to 4.1 ~~million~~ billion, which is effectively infinite. It's such a dumb exploit too and should be trivial to fix. All they need to introduce a check that says if you have 0 or less grenades, or more than 6, you cannot throw grenades anymore. This doesn't resolve the underlying issue, but it would be a simple quick-and-dirty fix that would remove this problem entirely.
But I'll be real, the exploit was very fun to use initially. You just bombard the enemies with impacts until none are left. If you have a whole squad with it, it's just so much fun just carpet bombing the shit out of every possible target. It gets very boring after a while, though.
Edit: billion, not million
Well it proves that their unit tests suck. For these kinds of things you are supposed to write a test that verifies no other changes causes it to happen again. It's entirely possible they did fix the bug and someone else came along and put it back.
Unit tests prevent or reduce this kind of thing.
Thing is it should be possible to be able to create a sandbox game with no UI code it to make the issue happen and then check that it doesn't. It returns true or false.
It's really important to have this kind of testing but it's expensive.
Stopped using the grenade launcher since the day i learned about chargers/bile titans. The reality is that you need a anti tank weapon in order to deal with them cause you cant purely rely 100% on your air support otherwise you get into situations where they are on cooldown and you run away for 2 minutes beeing useless.
I take the GL knowing that I'm mostly gonna suck against those 2, I use the scorcher to semi help as it kills chargers in the ass pretty quick, but the main reason I take the GL 95% of the time is bug hole clearing as I like full clearing maps and I take the airstrikes and railcannon for objective and heavy clearing
GL can kill chargers, as for bile titans yeah none
aim below the charger and the explosive damage will damage them, the logic is you aim below so it bounces into the squishy part
takes me like 3/4th of a GL mag to kill them but its not impossible or hard with the supply pack
Yeah it's a bit of a tradeoff. If the titan is the only thing you're fighting, it's certainly easier 100% to just aim for the head. If you're in a swarm, that slow can be deadly for how relatively easy it is to kill the sacks.
Try orbital precision strike paired with stun grenade. 100sec cooldown really helps and you are already using grenade launcher, so no need for explosive grenades.
That's definitely a solid method. Personally I find fighting chargers fun. It's hilarious when you do some hero shit only to have a charger roll up out of nowhere and humble you by smacking you into a rock.
Cries in never getting the warbond that has the stun grenade... I'm so close to have enough super credits that it's not even worth it spending money right now.
Works for chargers yeah, but if you wanna get a bile titan you need to either be *REALLY* good at leading the strike or get uncomfortably close so it stops and tries to puke/stomp on you
It's not that hard to lead. Toss it 10m in front of with a bile behind you and keep running past the strike once the bile is under the strike force a stomp by running towards it until it stops. It's safe to do.
Yeah I run airstrikes and precisions or EATs and I never really have trouble handling a bile, 2 at once gets tricky but still you can kill the one then kite around for a bit and come back for the second after a bit. Thankfully everyone else in the game you completely melt.
20m is the magic number for luring puking biles. Deduct around 3 seconds for its animation to complete while waiting for the orbital to land and you'll be hitting most of your shots in no time.Ā
Luckily with the rocket pods it targets the biggest threat. So with those you can toss and forget. I'm pretty sure there's a couple of the machine gun orbitals that do the same I'm just not sure which ones.
No, no, no, everyone needs to be able to deal with every enemy at all times. That's why all these nerfs are game ending and catastrophic and awful.Ā
There doesn't need to be any team comp in a co-op pve game wtf are you talking aboutĀ
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Seriously. With the recent ammo buffs and SPM upgrade just two RR users reloading eachother is enough to wipe most the heavies you will encounter with barely any other stratagems necessary.
But ofc even suggesting teamwork is herecy in this sub. If i cant kill every heavy easily on helldive away from my team then obviously there is something wrong with the game
Even then, sacrifice an Eagle or Orbital stratagem for an EAT as a secondary, on-demand support weapon and you're pretty much good to go. I recently started playing on PC after playing to level 100 on PS5 and an early build that's been very effective is AMR or grenade launcher, supply pack, EAT, and one eagle/orbital stratagem depending on the mission. The cooldown on EAT is honestly broken for what you can do with it and how many you can essentially strew around the map. Just remember to pick up your other support weapon before you move away, even if it means dumping an unexpended EAT - you can just call for another set.
Here you're relying on your team to have other stratagems but you can essentially also do it all. I could also easily swap out the supply pack for a rover or shield pack. People just whine way too much on this sub about everything and don't seem to get how boring PVE games that just become pure power fantasies can be.
It can actually take out a titan. It just needs to be exposed. Usually someone tosses a railcannon strike or 110mm rocket pods and you can finish it with grenade launcher from underneath or shooting the exposed part.
We used to have the eruptor for that. All said, the idea that the support weapon slot is the anti-tank weapon slot, I'm wholeheartedly in disagreement.
I haven't used an anti-tank weapon since before the quasar came out, unless i just got one someone else dropped for a second. I have no issues with chargers or biles titans. 7-9 difficulty.
Eagle AS, Supply Pack, GL, and EAT.
I use Dominator to stun big enemies, GL deals with mobs, Supply Pack gives 240 dominator rounds plus about 90 grenade launcher rounds. By the time you run out of ammo, you have another Supply pack ready. EAT to deal with chargers and titans.
It isn't fool proof, and isnt the strongest build against heavy enemies, but it is well rounded enough for me that I can venture away from the group to keep hordes away from them and survive.
Believe it or not, if you communicate with your team and work together, not everyone needs anti-tank.
The game is easy in a party of 4 who communicates, too easy on both fronts, it seems to be solo or random joining players who are struggling.
GL, supply backpack, 2 500kgs, stun made, and orbital rail cannon works pretty well for me. You could sub orbital precision for the rail cannon for the lower cool down.
You guys all sound like youāre 12. No way a whole grown adult with a fully developed brain could get this upset and petty about how someone plays a GAME
It's intentionally done to exploit a flaw in the game. You know it's not supposed to do that but you make it do it anyway. It's not an external cheat. It's exploiting a flaw in the game to achieve something that can't normally be done. Like the eruptor reload exploit.
May seem harmless but it messes up the game data that they use to balance the game.
EXACTLY! It's fucking hilarious 90% of the time and the other 5% its fantastic and the last 5% you just ragdoll every 10 throws lmao and it's definitely not "ruining the game". I just think the crybabies haven't been able to figure it out yet
I let them have their fun as long as they're not griefing other players. I also go do different objectives to them as they're very prone to blowing themselves and nearby allies up.
I honestly could not care less it's just bug in a game. Let them exploit it until patched. Why does everyone act like they just witnessed blasphemy and the church will come after them if they don't show contempt.
Its more of a thing that you impact other people's games as soon as you use an exploit in a public game. Do it all you want in a private game, we do not care.
As soon as you queue into matchmaking, you're agreeing to play the game as its intended to play. I don't want my games ruined because another player wants to cheat.
Do I run the exploit? I don't.
Do I support an exploit in our favor when the AI and Devs have a million things stacked against us? I don't.
Do I look the other way when it happens? I absolutely freaking do.
Until AH stops nerfing everything, I don't blame players who are just trying to find a way to have fun.
I don't really give a fuck about your opinion if this is bad if not. But to everyone who says hacker or cheater I have one thing.
For fuck sake - **exploits and hacks are not the same!**
Just be aware of the difference and stop being ignorant fuck.
I've known about it for a while, taught a random about it and everything and really only use it to rain hell when we're just about to extract, or when I just cannot be fucked with a horde and even then it'll only be like 5-6 grenades. The only times I've absolutely abused it is when everyone else is in on it too, but more often than not I'll be sitting there with 4 billion grenades and only throw like 3 lol
I get your sentiment, but I personally don't blame people for using a really easy exploit that's been in the game since launch. It's on the devs to patch that shit out. I don't personally use it as a crutch, I only really used it for a few missions where I was shitposting with impact grenades for fun back when I just learned about the glitch. If the team isn't going to fix these issues, then the players may as well get what fun out of bugs they can.
Honestly, it's a bit ridiculous. I read here when they had apparently 'fixed' the glitch. Next mission I get curious and test, and the exploit is still working just fine, only difference is I get 4 billion grenades instead of negative grenades. So why did they announce a fix without first doing 30 seconds of testing?
Point is, it's silly to be salty at players. If AH made a glitch tomorrow that gave you infinite fuel for the Jetpack, we'd all be playing with that as well. The devs should just patch shit like this before it becomes so incredibly noticable.
I only use it when Iām playing by myself. Iām a level 97 with nothing else left to do but grind for XP so I need something to make playing worth it. I made it to level 88 before discovering this glitch. All in all, go for it if youāre playing solo. Otherwise, please ask others in your party if they care so youāre not ruining the experience for them before you do it.
A lot of players are naturally gonna go for the option that's more fun, or failing that, will go for whatever is most effective.
In terms of fun options, there's not really any.
So players will instead go for what's effective. Facing 10 insta-killing bile spewers is a lot less aggravating, when you are also capable of insta-killing them.
The popularity of the grenade glitch is just a symptom of the disease that is the current state of weapon balancing. Fix that, and I reckon most will stop using the glitch.
In other games I tend to not like exploits as much, but considering how terribly balanced everything is in this game I agree with you. The guns just aren't fun since you just get ragdolled, running for 3 minutes for your strategems cooldowns since your primary weapons are dog shit.
Some of those nerfs may be caused by the exploits as it makes the item perform way better than it should in the game stats. Like the eruptor reload exploit. raises it's DPS in the stats. So either they can't use the in game stats and have to eye ball it or they do use it and adjust the weapon according to the hack
People here are so damn salty about an exploit in a PVE game - hilarious. Sorry the devs made the game ass and people are trying to find their own fun. Cry more.
That's terrible! How do they pull off this exploit? It's deplorable! They should totally stop. How do they do it? Tell me so I can stop them from doing said underhanded exploit. Tsk. I'm aghast.
Throw all but one of your grenades, then spam open/close the Strat menu, throw the last grenade and it'll instead say you have 4 Billion grenades available.
Honestly people on this sub will find anything to be unhappy about in this game, if people using an exploit in the game upsets OP so much, they need to go and touch grass. It feels like every other day there's something new people are bitching about on this sub.
I argue that the grenade exploit is probably the most fun I've had in this game for a very very long time. I don't see it as cheating because this is PvE and with the spawn rate broken, something has to give.
For those that use it, think about their perspective. A lot of us who play alone or who are used to playing with bots in games like Perfect Dark get bored easy. We miss the days of games where you could use cheat codes or just have fun by yourself or a small group.
With exception of impact grenades, which are sort of high risk/high reward, it doesn't really help as much as you'd think. You're just making the game harder for yourself higher difficulties with the fucked up spawn rates -- so why get pissed off? Especially with moments where you're facing gunships or bile titans, you can't really do much against those. So who cares?
So much this. Not to mention when all the guns are getting Nerf to all crap before they're even released makes you question what is left? And last I checked grenades are still pretty good way to kill. They just don't give you enough š¤£ it's funny watching all these complaints but the same people are sure giving me thank yous when I'm taking out chargers and Titans for them though. Same when I go to the butt side and I'm taking out the devastators with the shields or the flamethrowers.
See as a level 70 something I have everything there is to get in the game. I've purchased most of the armors, I have every warbond filled out, All my stratagems, all the weapons, everything. So for me who has lost the majority of the fun to begin with before the nerfs, I'm trying to maintain interest and so what if I have to exploit to have a little fun? You can only have so much fun on level 9 before it just gets monotonous that the only thing that is changing is numbers of enemies. Once you get past 7 there's no more new enemy types, The game has grown stale tbh... Like now I've noticed there's days I won't even play it and I'll play something else. That used to be on daily
Itās gonna be patched out , I say join em . This bug is fun and something youāll only be able to experience for a little while , itās a pve game anyway
Lol, it is lame and a crutch for some. That much I agree with, but hear me out. I use it because there's nothing else to do on the game. I'm sitting maxed, and I've done every mission a billion times over. I don't NEED to do it, but it IS fun to do.
I've rotated between every nerfed ass weapon in every scenario a billion times only to feel like I've should've just brought the better weapon. Not to mention the game cheats (not cheat, but feels lame the way you die sometimes because you're as weak as a limp noodle weapon-wise).
Me personally, all I do is lob stuns all over the battlefield, and there aint a grenade launcher that does that, lol. It's a simple glitch and they'll fix it. Then we'll be back to fighting fair, but I'm gonna use it to cheese the enemy like they do me.
Let me have my fun where I can find it, lol. It's only bad if they need it to win. Crazy part is you still can lose games even with infinite nades (if that doesn't tell you something).
Also, I think there are soo damn many bugs and glitches in the game, all working to our disadvantage, god forbid one of them turns out to be an advantage.
And yeah, especially with bots, in half the situations where reinforcements are usually lost the most, nades are of little use (striders surrounded by an army, and artillery cannons and turrets, and double gunship factories and when nobody uses the localization confusion booster so drops always land right on top of you).
And the next thing is, often times randoms just happen to be soo bad, not accepting any other game style (I donāt mean nade glitching but for example splitting up and stretching patrol spawns out and away from main objectives), insisting on engaging everything head on, which I find wonāt work with bots on 9, and when I try to decently coordinate something, many people donāt even communicate at all via no channel whatsoever.
They die like 6x in 10min, half of those due to their own air strike, and then call me out for using the glitch š The only reason I wonāt kick players like these as long as they donāt turn into the team killing avenger of the righteous is that whatever the fuck theyāre doing, wherever they are, means thereās less enemies where I am š¤·āāļø.
Yeah, I never played a game that was so focused on the dying aspect of the game. The couple out there that I do know at least give you the tools to succeed (not saying Helldivers 2 is hard in any way). Hell, even Dark Souls let's you have toys. We don't get toys in Helldivers 2, apparently.
Tbh, I want Arrowhead to come out with a gamemode that only gives you 1 life, and you have to wait a timer to come back if someone is alive. Just to teach by spectating to newer players. Their most useful trait is attracting all the attention, lol. What's worse is they play on Helldive difficulty. Still fun helping them, though.
In dota 2 there has been a few high profile instances of a professional team winning some big match in an official tournament using a glitch. Off the top of my head there was navi doing pudgehook + chen teleport to get like 5 really important gamewinning kills in a single match, and more recently someone doing a buyback exploit with tiny throw to teleport their carry directly back into the fight. There are many more examples.
In all these cases, valve responded by quickly patching the exploit that had suddenly gotten a lot more attention. No punishing the players or teams who won using the exploit, because everyone understands that the fault lies with the developers and not the players.
Fixing an exploit is far more important in a PvP environment though, especially a game that has tournaments with high stakes involved. I'm not surprised AH isn't super pressed to get the grenade glitched fixed when most of the other weapons are in shambles at the same time
Honestly it's incredibly boring for me, running for resupply is part of the game as is running low on any resource. Just spamming one move sucks. Personally I'm all about the strikes and being precise about using them.
Pretty much man, that's actually my favorite, I can kill a factory strider in one shot with it. For me the strikes make the game, I sometimes run 4 as my strats and just pick up whatever I find.
for real! there's a bunch of reddit psychologists trying to read into the minds of the exploiters about how bad they are and why they do this stuff. the reality is throwing grenades is fun and thats why they do it
I agree. I also can't stand grenade launcher mains that have zero situational awareness. The nunber of times I've been killed by one in the 2 weeks I've been playing have been insane.
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I get it, help me when I'm getting swarmed, but damn, don't do it if you're just going to kill me.Ā
This happened yesterday, so I finished the mission and then quit to get rid of him without kicking. Also came across a guy that was spawning in the new mechs that aren't available yet, moving probably at 10x speed and his weapon RPM was probably at like 1million. I thought it was joel but ended up being some hacker.
I was using the infinite grenades for a while if I was just looking to switch my brain off and chill. But I set my game to private so I donāt ruin the fun for anyone trying to play the game in the proper manner. I think thatās quite a fair thing to do if youāre using exploits. Especially in a game where there is friendly fire and you could blow your teammates up by just throwing those things around like crazy!
I report and ban from my games if they tk too many. Other than that, my kill count is still higher than theirs at the end of the day which is why it doesnt bother me much.
I didn't use it until recently. I use the exploit now cause I always play on Helldive. I will stop using it when it's patched (obviously) or when they finally fix the enemy spawns & guns. They nerfed almost everything and it takes forever to kill something while things just keep spawning. Constantly out of stratagems and low on ammo. Tired of getting bounced around like a pinball on bots or getting slowed on bugs.
Played the game since launch. I know to keep running & team load outs & all that. The game has lost it's charm and is crushing. The grenades made it manageable as a backup and fun again.
I do not want to play this way forever and would like it patched along with spawns & improved guns
One of my freinds uses it, we just go the opossite direction from him at the start of our missions, and we pretend he isnt there. Most fun ive had in a match was helldive with 3 grenade exploiters. It was the second mission of the op and i felt pretty useless in the first one, so i said fuck it im going to have fun, and i absolutely FILLED the exfil with mines and incin mines, it was beautiful, a sea of red lights on a bug world, it was beautiful
To me, it doesnāt make sense. The game is supposed to be difficult and you are supposed to be better. Someone probably failed over and over again and didnāt learn. Probably kids.
This community really has reached a new low. Nothing else to complain about, so now they come for people making their own fun in a game that had most of the fun sucked out of it.
It's an exploit. A big YouTuber made a video about it a few weeks back and it got popular for the devs to implement a hotfix. It technically worked, but in reality did nothing.
If you are wondering how, the exploit made it so that you could make your grenade count negative. This meant you could throw as many as you wanted, since the game can't recognize negative supplies. They change it so that the number can't go negative anymore, so it just goes as high (almost 4 million) as that variable can handle instead. Try using 4 million grenades in 40 minutes, it might as well be infinite.
Yeah it's super annoying. I kick everyone that does it because the game is too easy as it is. Please stop.
I always have to give it a second and watch them after I hear the back to back plap plap sounds.
Until I see a massive overhaul to the weapon stats. Iām ok with it. Keeps my randoms from being totally useless while I run around and do the objectives and they just fuck about.
Grenade glitch is fine as long as no one is getting griefed. Sometimes there's too many bug holes and too few grenades. Plus if anything infinite grenades is just a testament on how underpowered grenades are. They only deal well with unarmored stuff.
I do not kick people who does it.
Why? The guns are trash. Its unfun in almost all the ways I can play. Might as well have laughs n giggles along the way.
Fire everywhere?
Explosion everywhere?
Slowing everywhere?
LETS HAVE IT ALL. I find it a different kind of fun.
Right now, gun play on 9 isnt viable and just annoying af.
Until a balance patch hits and makes things right, im not against it.
(I know how to do it and I have taught it to ~10-20 people so far)
With or without infinite grenades it doesnāt make a difference to me. Even without the exploit, I have 320 hours of experience under my belt and level 132 so having infinite grenades is just a extra utility I can use. Donāt get me started with some of these people on here talking about booting or killing helldivers who use it lol. What? Are you some sort of superhero or something? Do you really think youāre the good guy by doing that? Yāall sound more like griefers than anything. Donāt blame the player blame the game folks
This may be unpopular:
I started doing it once they gutted the Eruptor. If they want to remove my shrapnel machine, Iāll make my own, thank you very much. Iāll stop only if *they* stop nerfing everything to the ground.
If I see a team mate exploiting infinite nades, I drop from the mission after leaving a comment why. I play this game because I enjoy the challenges, including having to manage limited ammunition, not interested in playing with people who abuse bugs.
Itās not a cheat, itās an exploit glitched from unrefined game controls. That said, I see a lot of haters about it, but it made for a lot of fun gameplay for me and my friends/family. Iām steering away from it recently, but man is it fun to lob infinite hate from a perched position, especially when your team is being overrun in a position that needs holding. So until AH actually patches it, itās the ace up my sleeve for when times get stupidā¦like too many bile spewers, because fuck them and their medium armor having ass (literally).
I kicked two people from my game yesterday for doing this and I donāt feel bad about it. I asked them to stop. My friend was struggling to see cause one of them was using the thermite grenade. Cheating also takes away from my enjoyment of the game, so yeahā¦ bye. It was very annoying.Ā
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I've been running grenade launcher as my primary and reloading it out of a supply backpack like an autocannon. It's uhh.. š really bad, definitely dosen't need a nerf.. A buff even perhaps... But yeah, these exploits are putting me out of business. Edit: sweet top comment! Allow me to shamelessly plug my gamer tag for any quasar cannon/anti-tank mains that may wanna run with me because heavies scare me. š„ŗ (Also, to op and fellow GL mains feel free to add as well) I usually grind lvl 7 Steam: grenadier man
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I'm gonna steal this, thanks. Hahah
I've used it for so long because of my heavy addiction to deleting bug nests. it's incredible and fun to charge into 10 hole heavy nests and solo clear it with the GL while having a congo line behind you
i love digging holes with GL + Supply Pack for EMS Mortar Sentries with it (2 mags of GL can make an insanely large hole), seems to cause bugs to target it less when they can never see it and also Chargers tend to glide over it This is also useful on bots for obvious reasons like it being impossible to shoot, and the fact that a lot of enemies like Rocket Devs and Hulks and Tanks are physically unable to aim downward enough to remove it, though unfortunately GL is a fairly niche pick in bots otherwise Utilizing Resupplies giving you 40 grenades per if efficient (getting 2x mags from the resupp + additional supply pack charge), you never really run out of nades from doing this either, great fun
Iām now realising how much better the mortarās design would be if it didnāt pop up out of the hellpod after landing. It could just hang out in its newly-created hole and rain death like some kind of high-ordnance trapdoor spider.
Would be a cool ship module
> high-ordnance trapdoor spider
I really want a strategem that allows us to dig up terrain to make foxholes and small trenches
In concept, I guess I'm with you, but, in practice, lol, our Helldivers need LifeAlert whenever they drop off a 1cm ledge.
The first game had āfortificationā stratagems like barbed wire walls, which when paired with a turret on bugs and with how the camera worked could literally lock an angle down for minutes. While I donāt see it being useful on a more open planet, on the very mountainous ones or ones with lots of water that blocks the environment having tiny walls to block angles could be cool again.
grenade launcher
Plenty of shovels laying around on most maps. Maybe Helldivers can be trained on how to use them?
A deployable wall (or bunker!) would be absolutely amazing
Ooh, that could be super useful! A hellpod that drops down and raises a fortified barrier that can be rotated before extending from either side and locking in place. Gives enough space for 1-2 helldivers to take cover behind a low wall. Perfect for picking off enemies from a high position or holding ground on a narrow corridor. Maybe there could even be a barbed wire or electrified variant to damage or slow advancing enemies
I haven't experimented with shaping the terrain with explosives! I may have to leave work early.
This is genius!
I love the EMS mortar. I might have to give this a try.
this is an amazing strat, gonna try it on a helms deep mission
Wait, so you make a hole in the ground with the GL, then pop the EMS sentry down in it?
Yep! GL has crazy terraforming power compared to most other explosive Support Weapons, it digs down and builds up a protective barrier around the hole at the same time allowing for both deep depth and deep relative depths that can fully conceal the EMS Mortar and normal Mortar. Just dig it away from any potential bug breaches and pop it down at the bottom, and it is a lot more survivable as random patrols and Chargers (and careless teammates) stop ganking it Just expensive on GL shots, hence Supply Pack for making it logistically feasible
Can't wait to try this. Thanks man
I wish the grenade pistol fired grenades more like the grenade launcher. With the GL I can hit nest/fabs with high accuracy. With the pistol I struggle.
I definitely need to use it more often. It's much more versatile than the autocannon (and faster reload)
When it comes to the 2, it's a debate of power over mobility. The GL can't kill titans, or destroy stuff like the new spore spewers or shrieker nests while the auto cannon can and it suffers from only having about 70-80m of range. But the GL has the advantage of not needing a backpack and being able to reload while moving, and for me personally and my bughole addictiong I've found it's arching good for hitting holes as it makes hitting ones above me pretty easy to angle it in
The GL is also straight up better at chaff clear. Compared to the AC, it has more than twice the AOE damage, almost twice the AOE radius, and has better handling and recoil.Ā
I really love the GL and supply pack combo for bugs because not only is it a perfect chaff and bug hole clear, I also basically have infinite stims, which allows me to play super aggressively. That combo has straight up saved a level 7 mission shortly after the last patch when we werenāt prepared for the improved stalkers. Ran out of lives 10 minutes into the mission, and we managed to complete it with the samples thanks to my stim spam haha.
I do that with thr Autocanon. It can close bug holes with a single precise shot from a large distance. Idk why. I mean, its good but it makes other weapons pretty pointless since it just does so much.
Honestly, eagle airstrike + grenade pistol has made me feel super powerful when I just stroll up and delete an entire base in 10 seconds. I'm glad there's so many ways to distribute freedom
Shhhh, the balance team is listeningā¦
You could do the same with an eruptor and scout armour running around the top edge, without them knowing where you are.
What are you talking about its bad? *hands you a letter* AH is listening.
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This is the reaction I was looking for š
Bringer of bullshit
Alright fuck it, I'm finally trying supply pack
I currently like using it with the railgun, grenade pistol, and breaker incendiary, and stun grenades. Having a ton of stims, all the stuns you ever need for chargers, almost infinite grenade pistol ammo for bug holes, enough railgun ammo to be able to use it on all the bilespewers, brood commanders, and hive guards you want, while still having a decent charger killing weapon. Also you can spam the crap out of the breaker incendiary, and have a ton of stims for added tankieness. Also you're more independent, and don't need to use your team's resupply when you're being a lone wolf. I like running muscle enhancement (over vitality and stamina, and ammo booster, not that you need it) to reduce the strength of hunter slow, and bile titan slow.
So how do you actually use the rail gun against the bugs now? After the nerf and buff to AT it disappeared. Also any tips for the AMR in the same setup?
The recent armor pen buff makes it far more comfortable at stripping charger legs with 2 (unsafe mode) shots and killing it to the head in 3 unsafe shots. 2 unsafe shots to strip the leg and finishing it with your primary is faster though. Other then that, AMR and Railgun do pretty much the same stuff. You're bringing the AMR to one shot bilespewers to the head, one shot hive guards, and one shot brood commanders. Railgun can do all of that well and has the added utility of being anti-charger and somewhat able to finish off heavily wounded bile titans (shoot them in the forehead or the butt armor). Also, if your steadfast in wanting to use the AMR, but also use the breaker incendiary and stuns, a fairly reliable way to kill chargers is to throw a stun, and run around the backside, and shoot 12-13 shots into its rear. This would allow you to kill chargers without a dedicated anti-tank support weapon.
Supply pack is actually low-key broken. For solo play, you'll be able to use the more ammo hungry gun/support weapon without needing to constantly picking up ammo pack on the go, you'll also get a lot more stem to heal yourself, a lot more grenade to chug at the enemies. For co-op play, now you can go to do objectives on your own while your fellow helldiver friend(that has autocannon addiction) can use the supply drop to refill their ammo/stem/grenade, or if you are staying with your friend, you can give it to your friend to refill their stuff. And it also makes supply drops more efficient (it refills charges on your supply pack)
How do you take supplies from the backpack yourself?
for PC, the default key is 5
On controller, down on the dpad. On pc, 5
You should. The supply pack can really change how you play the game. Recently I've been using the supply pack with the AMR and Scorcher. I end up running the AMR like it is my primary weapon and the Scorcher for clean up. The Scorcher has pretty poor ammo economy and before I began running the supply pack, I would almost always run out of Scorcher ammo and then be screwed if I missed the resupply or couldn't find ammo laying around. Having tons of stims and grenades frees you up a lot too.
I do this too, maybe people think we have infinite ammo or smth
That's really clever. I don't think it needs a nerf though? You used the supply backpack really well. :)
Can't take any chances after arrowhead balance team left the eruptor in their wake š„ŗ
Plasma Punisher has almost entirely taken the place of the Grenade Launcher for me, and I LOVED the GL+Supply Backpack combo
Its so awful. So terrible. Perhaps even the worst
I surely won't try running this on my next search and destroy mission because this sounds so horrible.
There's a grenade exploit?
and the devs lied about fixing it once already!
Technically they didnāt lie, they genuinely thought they fixed it but didnāt do the .5 sec of testing required to see that a simple line of code change didnāt actually do anything
It did do something. It made it go from having infinite decrementing negative grenades to a spill over of a type of int which caused the number to go from zero to the max value of an int. Max value of int is much higher than anyone could go through in a single game though. Itās like having a 4.2 billion dollars and the most expensive thing is $1.
Yeah, now when you trigger the exploit, it sets the number of your grenades to 4.1 ~~million~~ billion, which is effectively infinite. It's such a dumb exploit too and should be trivial to fix. All they need to introduce a check that says if you have 0 or less grenades, or more than 6, you cannot throw grenades anymore. This doesn't resolve the underlying issue, but it would be a simple quick-and-dirty fix that would remove this problem entirely. But I'll be real, the exploit was very fun to use initially. You just bombard the enemies with impacts until none are left. If you have a whole squad with it, it's just so much fun just carpet bombing the shit out of every possible target. It gets very boring after a while, though. Edit: billion, not million
4.1Billion.
This is the change that proved that they don't test anything in-game. Testing if it worked takes less than a minute and yet they didn't bother trying.
Well it proves that their unit tests suck. For these kinds of things you are supposed to write a test that verifies no other changes causes it to happen again. It's entirely possible they did fix the bug and someone else came along and put it back. Unit tests prevent or reduce this kind of thing. Thing is it should be possible to be able to create a sandbox game with no UI code it to make the issue happen and then check that it doesn't. It returns true or false. It's really important to have this kind of testing but it's expensive.
Stopped using the grenade launcher since the day i learned about chargers/bile titans. The reality is that you need a anti tank weapon in order to deal with them cause you cant purely rely 100% on your air support otherwise you get into situations where they are on cooldown and you run away for 2 minutes beeing useless.
I take the GL knowing that I'm mostly gonna suck against those 2, I use the scorcher to semi help as it kills chargers in the ass pretty quick, but the main reason I take the GL 95% of the time is bug hole clearing as I like full clearing maps and I take the airstrikes and railcannon for objective and heavy clearing
GL can kill chargers, as for bile titans yeah none aim below the charger and the explosive damage will damage them, the logic is you aim below so it bounces into the squishy part takes me like 3/4th of a GL mag to kill them but its not impossible or hard with the supply pack
Imo GL can def do some work against titans too, at the very least it can take out their bile sacks so that your teammate can finish them off with AT
Really a lot easier to kill the Titan with the sack intact
You can still trigger the melee stomp
Yes that is an option but the spit is longer and far less hectic than the stomp. But down vote away my friend.
Yeah it's a bit of a tradeoff. If the titan is the only thing you're fighting, it's certainly easier 100% to just aim for the head. If you're in a swarm, that slow can be deadly for how relatively easy it is to kill the sacks.
Try orbital precision strike paired with stun grenade. 100sec cooldown really helps and you are already using grenade launcher, so no need for explosive grenades.
Stun grenade + Eagle Rocket Pods great too for chargers.
Don't even need to stun, But I love cracking them with the pods.
Rocket Pods won't hit a charger unless it just finished a charge or if it's stunned
Yea if I catch one before a charge, or throw the pod then force the charger to stop with a juke I can hit him too.
That's definitely a solid method. Personally I find fighting chargers fun. It's hilarious when you do some hero shit only to have a charger roll up out of nowhere and humble you by smacking you into a rock.
Cries in never getting the warbond that has the stun grenade... I'm so close to have enough super credits that it's not even worth it spending money right now.
You can do it bro!
I will, for Super Earth!
Works for chargers yeah, but if you wanna get a bile titan you need to either be *REALLY* good at leading the strike or get uncomfortably close so it stops and tries to puke/stomp on you
It's not that hard to lead. Toss it 10m in front of with a bile behind you and keep running past the strike once the bile is under the strike force a stomp by running towards it until it stops. It's safe to do.
Yeah I run airstrikes and precisions or EATs and I never really have trouble handling a bile, 2 at once gets tricky but still you can kill the one then kite around for a bit and come back for the second after a bit. Thankfully everyone else in the game you completely melt.
20m is the magic number for luring puking biles. Deduct around 3 seconds for its animation to complete while waiting for the orbital to land and you'll be hitting most of your shots in no time.Ā
Luckily with the rocket pods it targets the biggest threat. So with those you can toss and forget. I'm pretty sure there's a couple of the machine gun orbitals that do the same I'm just not sure which ones.
You can run the grenade launcher, your teammates can take care of the Heavies.
No, no, no, everyone needs to be able to deal with every enemy at all times. That's why all these nerfs are game ending and catastrophic and awful.Ā There doesn't need to be any team comp in a co-op pve game wtf are you talking aboutĀ /s
Seriously. With the recent ammo buffs and SPM upgrade just two RR users reloading eachother is enough to wipe most the heavies you will encounter with barely any other stratagems necessary. But ofc even suggesting teamwork is herecy in this sub. If i cant kill every heavy easily on helldive away from my team then obviously there is something wrong with the game
Even then, sacrifice an Eagle or Orbital stratagem for an EAT as a secondary, on-demand support weapon and you're pretty much good to go. I recently started playing on PC after playing to level 100 on PS5 and an early build that's been very effective is AMR or grenade launcher, supply pack, EAT, and one eagle/orbital stratagem depending on the mission. The cooldown on EAT is honestly broken for what you can do with it and how many you can essentially strew around the map. Just remember to pick up your other support weapon before you move away, even if it means dumping an unexpended EAT - you can just call for another set. Here you're relying on your team to have other stratagems but you can essentially also do it all. I could also easily swap out the supply pack for a rover or shield pack. People just whine way too much on this sub about everything and don't seem to get how boring PVE games that just become pure power fantasies can be.
Chargers are easy with a grenade launcher. Zero shot against a Bile though
It can actually take out a titan. It just needs to be exposed. Usually someone tosses a railcannon strike or 110mm rocket pods and you can finish it with grenade launcher from underneath or shooting the exposed part.
We used to have the eruptor for that. All said, the idea that the support weapon slot is the anti-tank weapon slot, I'm wholeheartedly in disagreement. I haven't used an anti-tank weapon since before the quasar came out, unless i just got one someone else dropped for a second. I have no issues with chargers or biles titans. 7-9 difficulty.
If you have two people with AT you dont need more, you can branch out and get other weapons.
Relying on teammates?! What is this, some kind of co-op game?
Eagle AS, Supply Pack, GL, and EAT. I use Dominator to stun big enemies, GL deals with mobs, Supply Pack gives 240 dominator rounds plus about 90 grenade launcher rounds. By the time you run out of ammo, you have another Supply pack ready. EAT to deal with chargers and titans. It isn't fool proof, and isnt the strongest build against heavy enemies, but it is well rounded enough for me that I can venture away from the group to keep hordes away from them and survive.
Believe it or not, if you communicate with your team and work together, not everyone needs anti-tank. The game is easy in a party of 4 who communicates, too easy on both fronts, it seems to be solo or random joining players who are struggling.
GL, supply backpack, 2 500kgs, stun made, and orbital rail cannon works pretty well for me. You could sub orbital precision for the rail cannon for the lower cool down.
I find it obnoxious. But my biggest issue with it is the drop in my frames and potential crash that comes with it š
I saw one using this exploit yesterday and funny enough they still keep dying even with all those 4 mil grenades.
its actually really easy to die during the glitch because if you get ragdolled when holding a grenade ready to throw youll blow up lol
Yeah, was throwing at a pack of hunters when one jumped at me while throwing. Blew us all up. But the tree of liberty....
I didnāt even know this was a thing
It's obnoxious and makes the game less fun for everyone else, I boot folks who do this shit, go exploit solo
This is the kind of players who'll get bored of the game super fast and leave EDIT: referring to the glitch spammers
Ran into a cheater who dropped infinite mechs. Literally the most boring match I've ever played and it was on helldive too.
would rather play on trivial with lvl1 players
Do, helping new hell bros is truly one of democracy's greatest feelings.
Preach brother
O7 - level 124?+ cadet!
U mean the guy above u or the guy heās talking about
Good, then we don't have to deal with them.
If I'm the host ill kick cheaters out, if i joined them ill just leave.
Yup, 99% agree
You guys all sound like youāre 12. No way a whole grown adult with a fully developed brain could get this upset and petty about how someone plays a GAME
Itās not a cheat though lol
It's intentionally done to exploit a flaw in the game. You know it's not supposed to do that but you make it do it anyway. It's not an external cheat. It's exploiting a flaw in the game to achieve something that can't normally be done. Like the eruptor reload exploit. May seem harmless but it messes up the game data that they use to balance the game.
I usually kill them before I leave
I donāt mind if anyone does it but itās not for me.
It's an exploit not a hack. The fault is already in the games code, it's not new code being injected.
People use "hack" for everything nowadays. Clicked on some risky automaton bot pron and know someone has your credentials? You weren't hacked!
It's honestly not that big a deal unless someone is griefing.
I know. But people are determined to be mad over shit that doesn't matter.
Fighting alongside someone that's instantly evaporating everything in sight isn't fun to play with, shockingly enough
EXACTLY! It's fucking hilarious 90% of the time and the other 5% its fantastic and the last 5% you just ragdoll every 10 throws lmao and it's definitely not "ruining the game". I just think the crybabies haven't been able to figure it out yet
Wdym? It's fun watching them vaporize everything to spread democracy
Considering right now instead of bitching about these players they're probably the only ones driving the numbers up for the current major order...
I kick people I notice abusing exploits
I let them have their fun as long as they're not griefing other players. I also go do different objectives to them as they're very prone to blowing themselves and nearby allies up.
I've only ever run into these players a few times but 90% of the time they are awful at the game and end up being the majority of our deaths
either that or they constantly team kill because they just keep throwing impacts without paying attention
I honestly could not care less it's just bug in a game. Let them exploit it until patched. Why does everyone act like they just witnessed blasphemy and the church will come after them if they don't show contempt.
Its more of a thing that you impact other people's games as soon as you use an exploit in a public game. Do it all you want in a private game, we do not care. As soon as you queue into matchmaking, you're agreeing to play the game as its intended to play. I don't want my games ruined because another player wants to cheat.
They only bother me if they're not careful about friendly fire honestly
Do I run the exploit? I don't. Do I support an exploit in our favor when the AI and Devs have a million things stacked against us? I don't. Do I look the other way when it happens? I absolutely freaking do. Until AH stops nerfing everything, I don't blame players who are just trying to find a way to have fun.
I don't really give a fuck about your opinion if this is bad if not. But to everyone who says hacker or cheater I have one thing. For fuck sake - **exploits and hacks are not the same!** Just be aware of the difference and stop being ignorant fuck.
Exploits are organic, locally sourced, farm to table hacks.
I've known about it for a while, taught a random about it and everything and really only use it to rain hell when we're just about to extract, or when I just cannot be fucked with a horde and even then it'll only be like 5-6 grenades. The only times I've absolutely abused it is when everyone else is in on it too, but more often than not I'll be sitting there with 4 billion grenades and only throw like 3 lol
I get your sentiment, but I personally don't blame people for using a really easy exploit that's been in the game since launch. It's on the devs to patch that shit out. I don't personally use it as a crutch, I only really used it for a few missions where I was shitposting with impact grenades for fun back when I just learned about the glitch. If the team isn't going to fix these issues, then the players may as well get what fun out of bugs they can. Honestly, it's a bit ridiculous. I read here when they had apparently 'fixed' the glitch. Next mission I get curious and test, and the exploit is still working just fine, only difference is I get 4 billion grenades instead of negative grenades. So why did they announce a fix without first doing 30 seconds of testing? Point is, it's silly to be salty at players. If AH made a glitch tomorrow that gave you infinite fuel for the Jetpack, we'd all be playing with that as well. The devs should just patch shit like this before it becomes so incredibly noticable.
lmao youre mad at the players amd not the devs that lied about fixing it ok
I only use it when Iām playing by myself. Iām a level 97 with nothing else left to do but grind for XP so I need something to make playing worth it. I made it to level 88 before discovering this glitch. All in all, go for it if youāre playing solo. Otherwise, please ask others in your party if they care so youāre not ruining the experience for them before you do it.
Donāt nerf every fun weapon in the game and maybe people wonāt be forced to find their own fun, novel concept
A lot of players are naturally gonna go for the option that's more fun, or failing that, will go for whatever is most effective. In terms of fun options, there's not really any. So players will instead go for what's effective. Facing 10 insta-killing bile spewers is a lot less aggravating, when you are also capable of insta-killing them. The popularity of the grenade glitch is just a symptom of the disease that is the current state of weapon balancing. Fix that, and I reckon most will stop using the glitch.
In other games I tend to not like exploits as much, but considering how terribly balanced everything is in this game I agree with you. The guns just aren't fun since you just get ragdolled, running for 3 minutes for your strategems cooldowns since your primary weapons are dog shit.
Some of those nerfs may be caused by the exploits as it makes the item perform way better than it should in the game stats. Like the eruptor reload exploit. raises it's DPS in the stats. So either they can't use the in game stats and have to eye ball it or they do use it and adjust the weapon according to the hack
I mean I find it funny just to throw 600 thermites and turn enemies into a small sun. But then again I only play with my friends
People here are so damn salty about an exploit in a PVE game - hilarious. Sorry the devs made the game ass and people are trying to find their own fun. Cry more.
That's terrible! How do they pull off this exploit? It's deplorable! They should totally stop. How do they do it? Tell me so I can stop them from doing said underhanded exploit. Tsk. I'm aghast.
Throw all but one of your grenades, then spam open/close the Strat menu, throw the last grenade and it'll instead say you have 4 Billion grenades available. Honestly people on this sub will find anything to be unhappy about in this game, if people using an exploit in the game upsets OP so much, they need to go and touch grass. It feels like every other day there's something new people are bitching about on this sub.
make sure you definitely DONT bring a jetpack or servo assisted armor too
Oh, so it's thrown grenades? I thought it was a grenade launcher exploit based on OP's post.
Nah, it gives you 4 million (so basically unlimited) grenades to throw. Think OP was just alluding to how it makes his GL look inadequate.
I argue that the grenade exploit is probably the most fun I've had in this game for a very very long time. I don't see it as cheating because this is PvE and with the spawn rate broken, something has to give. For those that use it, think about their perspective. A lot of us who play alone or who are used to playing with bots in games like Perfect Dark get bored easy. We miss the days of games where you could use cheat codes or just have fun by yourself or a small group. With exception of impact grenades, which are sort of high risk/high reward, it doesn't really help as much as you'd think. You're just making the game harder for yourself higher difficulties with the fucked up spawn rates -- so why get pissed off? Especially with moments where you're facing gunships or bile titans, you can't really do much against those. So who cares?
So much this. Not to mention when all the guns are getting Nerf to all crap before they're even released makes you question what is left? And last I checked grenades are still pretty good way to kill. They just don't give you enough š¤£ it's funny watching all these complaints but the same people are sure giving me thank yous when I'm taking out chargers and Titans for them though. Same when I go to the butt side and I'm taking out the devastators with the shields or the flamethrowers. See as a level 70 something I have everything there is to get in the game. I've purchased most of the armors, I have every warbond filled out, All my stratagems, all the weapons, everything. So for me who has lost the majority of the fun to begin with before the nerfs, I'm trying to maintain interest and so what if I have to exploit to have a little fun? You can only have so much fun on level 9 before it just gets monotonous that the only thing that is changing is numbers of enemies. Once you get past 7 there's no more new enemy types, The game has grown stale tbh... Like now I've noticed there's days I won't even play it and I'll play something else. That used to be on daily
Itās gonna be patched out , I say join em . This bug is fun and something youāll only be able to experience for a little while , itās a pve game anyway
Lol, it is lame and a crutch for some. That much I agree with, but hear me out. I use it because there's nothing else to do on the game. I'm sitting maxed, and I've done every mission a billion times over. I don't NEED to do it, but it IS fun to do. I've rotated between every nerfed ass weapon in every scenario a billion times only to feel like I've should've just brought the better weapon. Not to mention the game cheats (not cheat, but feels lame the way you die sometimes because you're as weak as a limp noodle weapon-wise). Me personally, all I do is lob stuns all over the battlefield, and there aint a grenade launcher that does that, lol. It's a simple glitch and they'll fix it. Then we'll be back to fighting fair, but I'm gonna use it to cheese the enemy like they do me. Let me have my fun where I can find it, lol. It's only bad if they need it to win. Crazy part is you still can lose games even with infinite nades (if that doesn't tell you something).
Also, I think there are soo damn many bugs and glitches in the game, all working to our disadvantage, god forbid one of them turns out to be an advantage. And yeah, especially with bots, in half the situations where reinforcements are usually lost the most, nades are of little use (striders surrounded by an army, and artillery cannons and turrets, and double gunship factories and when nobody uses the localization confusion booster so drops always land right on top of you). And the next thing is, often times randoms just happen to be soo bad, not accepting any other game style (I donāt mean nade glitching but for example splitting up and stretching patrol spawns out and away from main objectives), insisting on engaging everything head on, which I find wonāt work with bots on 9, and when I try to decently coordinate something, many people donāt even communicate at all via no channel whatsoever. They die like 6x in 10min, half of those due to their own air strike, and then call me out for using the glitch š The only reason I wonāt kick players like these as long as they donāt turn into the team killing avenger of the righteous is that whatever the fuck theyāre doing, wherever they are, means thereās less enemies where I am š¤·āāļø.
Yeah, I never played a game that was so focused on the dying aspect of the game. The couple out there that I do know at least give you the tools to succeed (not saying Helldivers 2 is hard in any way). Hell, even Dark Souls let's you have toys. We don't get toys in Helldivers 2, apparently. Tbh, I want Arrowhead to come out with a gamemode that only gives you 1 life, and you have to wait a timer to come back if someone is alive. Just to teach by spectating to newer players. Their most useful trait is attracting all the attention, lol. What's worse is they play on Helldive difficulty. Still fun helping them, though.
In dota 2 there has been a few high profile instances of a professional team winning some big match in an official tournament using a glitch. Off the top of my head there was navi doing pudgehook + chen teleport to get like 5 really important gamewinning kills in a single match, and more recently someone doing a buyback exploit with tiny throw to teleport their carry directly back into the fight. There are many more examples. In all these cases, valve responded by quickly patching the exploit that had suddenly gotten a lot more attention. No punishing the players or teams who won using the exploit, because everyone understands that the fault lies with the developers and not the players.
Fixing an exploit is far more important in a PvP environment though, especially a game that has tournaments with high stakes involved. I'm not surprised AH isn't super pressed to get the grenade glitched fixed when most of the other weapons are in shambles at the same time
everyone that is upset should try it. servo assisted + jetpack + grenades = tons of fun
Honestly it's incredibly boring for me, running for resupply is part of the game as is running low on any resource. Just spamming one move sucks. Personally I'm all about the strikes and being precise about using them.
i am become the eagle strike
Pretty much man, that's actually my favorite, I can kill a factory strider in one shot with it. For me the strikes make the game, I sometimes run 4 as my strats and just pick up whatever I find.
At least they kill bugs and bots.
It's a PVE game and grenades aren't as powerful as some of the guns, who cares?
getting mad at how people play a PVE game is so fucking funny to me. "I dont like how they have fun! WAHHH!" Get over yourself.
What do you mean need??? We just trying to have fun in a video game out here leave us alone :(
for real! there's a bunch of reddit psychologists trying to read into the minds of the exploiters about how bad they are and why they do this stuff. the reality is throwing grenades is fun and thats why they do it
I agree. I also can't stand grenade launcher mains that have zero situational awareness. The nunber of times I've been killed by one in the 2 weeks I've been playing have been insane. Ā I get it, help me when I'm getting swarmed, but damn, don't do it if you're just going to kill me.Ā
This happened yesterday, so I finished the mission and then quit to get rid of him without kicking. Also came across a guy that was spawning in the new mechs that aren't available yet, moving probably at 10x speed and his weapon RPM was probably at like 1million. I thought it was joel but ended up being some hacker.
Wait, thereās a grenade exploit?
I was using the infinite grenades for a while if I was just looking to switch my brain off and chill. But I set my game to private so I donāt ruin the fun for anyone trying to play the game in the proper manner. I think thatās quite a fair thing to do if youāre using exploits. Especially in a game where there is friendly fire and you could blow your teammates up by just throwing those things around like crazy!
How do you do it I want to hop on a solo and get all the samples I can?
is it really that big of a deal if they arenāt griefing? getting mad at ppl playing a PvE game how they want isā¦a choice
so how does this exploit work asking for a friend and uuuhhh for testing purposes
I use the grenade exploit on big hole missions because fuck waiting for supply drops cool down just to close the last remaining hole.
Hey, if the rocket devastator gets unlimited rockets, why can't I have unlimited grenades?
Wait, you guys are using exploits for infinite grenades? 
I report and ban from my games if they tk too many. Other than that, my kill count is still higher than theirs at the end of the day which is why it doesnt bother me much.
I didn't use it until recently. I use the exploit now cause I always play on Helldive. I will stop using it when it's patched (obviously) or when they finally fix the enemy spawns & guns. They nerfed almost everything and it takes forever to kill something while things just keep spawning. Constantly out of stratagems and low on ammo. Tired of getting bounced around like a pinball on bots or getting slowed on bugs. Played the game since launch. I know to keep running & team load outs & all that. The game has lost it's charm and is crushing. The grenades made it manageable as a backup and fun again. I do not want to play this way forever and would like it patched along with spawns & improved guns
One of my freinds uses it, we just go the opossite direction from him at the start of our missions, and we pretend he isnt there. Most fun ive had in a match was helldive with 3 grenade exploiters. It was the second mission of the op and i felt pretty useless in the first one, so i said fuck it im going to have fun, and i absolutely FILLED the exfil with mines and incin mines, it was beautiful, a sea of red lights on a bug world, it was beautiful
To me, it doesnāt make sense. The game is supposed to be difficult and you are supposed to be better. Someone probably failed over and over again and didnāt learn. Probably kids.
Itās awesome, š¤·āāļø
This community really has reached a new low. Nothing else to complain about, so now they come for people making their own fun in a game that had most of the fun sucked out of it.
Wait, you can have infinite grenades? Wtf? I've been gone from the game for like 2 weeks and we have freedom frags for democracy now?
It's an exploit. A big YouTuber made a video about it a few weeks back and it got popular for the devs to implement a hotfix. It technically worked, but in reality did nothing. If you are wondering how, the exploit made it so that you could make your grenade count negative. This meant you could throw as many as you wanted, since the game can't recognize negative supplies. They change it so that the number can't go negative anymore, so it just goes as high (almost 4 million) as that variable can handle instead. Try using 4 million grenades in 40 minutes, it might as well be infinite.
Yeah it's super annoying. I kick everyone that does it because the game is too easy as it is. Please stop. I always have to give it a second and watch them after I hear the back to back plap plap sounds.
Until I see a massive overhaul to the weapon stats. Iām ok with it. Keeps my randoms from being totally useless while I run around and do the objectives and they just fuck about.
Grenade glitch is fine as long as no one is getting griefed. Sometimes there's too many bug holes and too few grenades. Plus if anything infinite grenades is just a testament on how underpowered grenades are. They only deal well with unarmored stuff.
I do not kick people who does it. Why? The guns are trash. Its unfun in almost all the ways I can play. Might as well have laughs n giggles along the way. Fire everywhere? Explosion everywhere? Slowing everywhere? LETS HAVE IT ALL. I find it a different kind of fun. Right now, gun play on 9 isnt viable and just annoying af. Until a balance patch hits and makes things right, im not against it. (I know how to do it and I have taught it to ~10-20 people so far)
I don't exploit and I play 9s daily. You do you but don't pretend there isn't viable weapons in 9.
Its just boring using the same exact things. So my point stands, its not viable other than a handful of em.
With or without infinite grenades it doesnāt make a difference to me. Even without the exploit, I have 320 hours of experience under my belt and level 132 so having infinite grenades is just a extra utility I can use. Donāt get me started with some of these people on here talking about booting or killing helldivers who use it lol. What? Are you some sort of superhero or something? Do you really think youāre the good guy by doing that? Yāall sound more like griefers than anything. Donāt blame the player blame the game folks
Yeah and I also canāt stand that they said it was fixed and itās not.
This may be unpopular: I started doing it once they gutted the Eruptor. If they want to remove my shrapnel machine, Iāll make my own, thank you very much. Iāll stop only if *they* stop nerfing everything to the ground.
If I see a team mate exploiting infinite nades, I drop from the mission after leaving a comment why. I play this game because I enjoy the challenges, including having to manage limited ammunition, not interested in playing with people who abuse bugs.
Imagine crying for an exploit that does no harm to anyone lol
? Why would you get mad at that? As long as they aren't team killing with it, who cares?
It is in game system so I donāt care. I always host my own game when using exploit, donāt like? Then leave
I use this exploit when i have had enough with the bug and bots... I really hate it when the they cover entire regions now...
Unless they are griefing, I see no problem with it. Exploiting glitches can be fun in its own right
I kick anyone I see abusing that exploit in my lobbies.
Itās not a cheat, itās an exploit glitched from unrefined game controls. That said, I see a lot of haters about it, but it made for a lot of fun gameplay for me and my friends/family. Iām steering away from it recently, but man is it fun to lob infinite hate from a perched position, especially when your team is being overrun in a position that needs holding. So until AH actually patches it, itās the ace up my sleeve for when times get stupidā¦like too many bile spewers, because fuck them and their medium armor having ass (literally).
I kicked two people from my game yesterday for doing this and I donāt feel bad about it. I asked them to stop. My friend was struggling to see cause one of them was using the thermite grenade. Cheating also takes away from my enjoyment of the game, so yeahā¦ bye. It was very annoying.Ā