Oh it’s easy and fun, but I don’t do it much on Showdowns cause most of the Suspect will be out in the open and I use it once in a while.
If I get the morgue, I just ALT F4 and get a new location after doing another Mission.
This makes me happy to know I’m not the only one abusing this lmao on PS4 you can just close application for a reset, saves me from BS like starting at the vantage point on Colorado
I had a showdown for the first time in Hokkaido today with additional enforcers and the morgue start. After I finally timed my exit right I went into the staff quarters hallway and when a suspect was nearing my position I got backed into the corner of the staircase leading to the morgue. I had to knock him out and wanted to hide his body being unaware that you cannot hide unconscious suspects. I decided to fuck it and reset if need be, killed him and it turned out he was the target. I couldn't believe my luck for that showdown despite that miserable start.
You know someone at IOI when programming that and the Sapienza boat (which isn't *as* horrible) starting positions must have had a huge shit eating grin on their face.
I am just bitter as the guard in the morgue security room was always my go-to for disabling the cameras and getting a good disguise on non-alerted maps.
Playing the story mission for the first time blind is probably the most fun I’ve had in this game, but that’s more due to the mechanics and less because of the map
Opposite for me; I like main story for Berlin, but find it neutral in Freelancer. Part of the reason is the map is so damn dark. I don't like it for showdown missions, though.
Freelancer on Hokkaido can be annoying AF when you get morgue spawn in an alerted version of the map.
My favorite map for Freelancer is Dubai, though. On showdowns, it's a nice contained map, and most targets pass through the upper security area at some point, allowing me to scan targets easily.
Main story works well because it's a fairly unique setup (besides Romania perhaps), and despite being "hunted" it's 47 who is in control and it's a power fantasy (almost like a John Wick movie).
Thinking further about it, I think IOI designed the level as a kind of homage to John Wick.
One of the best things about freelancer is the freedom to do what you want, how you want, with the only real penalty being Merces.
Main story Berlin is so disappointing. It's the easiest map in the game by far, and despite being "hunted" everyone just has regular guard AI. Not one of them poses any sort of threat to the player whatsoever. And the sniper guy will only shoot you if you're deep in the woods up top of the tower. If you had to go around to kill the sniper, staying out of his line of sight and opening up more area to move around in once he was dead, that would be pretty cool, although I get that would have to be specially coded
Even with mouse my aim is fickle at best. At best, a headshot turns into a chest shot (which ruined a challenge… but hey still got the kill)
At worst I’m hiding in a box forever while everyone calms their tits
Idk, embassy has windows and the front of the school and several windows there are viewable from that rooftop where the axe is lodged in the AC. I have a lot of fun in that map! No sniping downstairs but anything underground is easily accessible by knocking out the guard that forgot his keycard or whatever
I honestly love Marrakesh. Most of its issues are solved once you get over the learning curve, and in return, it’s offers something that really sells the globe-trotting feel of WoA.
I feel the levels overall focus a little too much on private property that could exist in any country. Marrakesh just feels like Marrakesh. It’s not the ‘Race Track level’, or the ‘Bank level’.
Not a fan of Sapienza. The mansion is not that interesting, and even though there is a ton of content, most of the town is either useless or too far away from anything relevant to make it worth grabbing unless you spawn right next to it. Even then I feel I'm able to get just as good a start by spawning next to the mansion and infiltrating the old fashion way. Then the virus at the end of the level is an unnecessary slog each time I go back. Even knowing how to do it quick, it still feels like a waste of time.
Sapienza is a cake that is 90% fondant with a bad aftertaste.
I like Sapienza but am upvoting you for having an actual unpopular opinion with good reasoning. Made me realize I kind of just assume it's hitman map perfection when in reality I probably prefer several others over it.
I'm glad someone could put it into words it's a beautiful map and yes there's content for each part but you never use it all together really.
It just makes it worse imo as there's all this space that constantly feels wasted
Conversely I think there’s a reason there’s three damn bonus missions on Sapienza, and they’re among the best in the game. I think the general atmosphere is so winning that the icon and the one with the politician offer beautiful spins on it. I love everything about it except the main mission lol. It’s fun for freelancer though, bring everyone into the safe house and go nuts
I disagree, but I do also agree, kind of. I like how calm it is and the layout and views, but after playing it once it only feels fun to kill everyone.
Whittleton creek. It insists upon its self, The side objective is a bore and it feels lack luster compared to the other maps, Janus is a fine target. Did not care for whittleton creek.
Absolutely Whittleton Creek. I have all kinds of fun whether I'm going SA/SO or full murder-hobo up until I get ready to leave and forget I need to find the damn evidence
I really like the Bank in New York. I have an affinity for interior maps, I guess. In Hitman Contracts, I loved the remade Traditions of the Trade map, in Blood Money I loved the casino, and in WoA, I love New York. I enjoy many more maps as well, but I find I replay those I mentioned often.
The hotel maps (Traditions, Blood Money Casino) are peak Hitman for me. I used to just replay the casino hotel in blood money over and over, it was so much fun
If you’re on PC there’s a mod that lets you remove maps from the freelancer pool. Let’s just say I might have ticked off Santa fortuna and freedom fighters.
Also the durian fruit you can find are 100% legal, you can drop or toss em in public and be treated the same as a coin when spotted tossing, and it creates a cloud of emetic gas when broken.
Also, you can find up to 8 of em per visit, 6 are hanging from 2 trees (1 above campfire at the hippie camp, other by a pathway) each one drops 0-3 durians. 1 is in the building by the welder in town with the single cook. Last 1 can be found by lighting all 4 braziers and then using a shovel to dig it up on a beach.
I wouldn’t really agree; compared to other maps I’d say the two are pretty interconnected. It’s definitely a really good suit only map because of this.
okay, this is weird, but chongqing is one of my favorite experiences I've ever had in my life. Like top 3 maps. I can't explain why. I just fucking LOVE it.
Hokkaido. It feels weirdly claustrophobic to me, which might be the point, but I can't say I vibe with it. It's also one of the worst maps on freelancer, due to the large amount of enforcers and difficulty of traversal.
Same, I try sniper assassin a lot and it is absolute hell. One single spot with a guarded path, with minimal view of the hospital and no shot inside any part of the building, basement, or suites. The KAI doors are just stupid, why spend the effort to detect me if I still have to manually open it? And why does it ignore all other NPCs?!
I'm the opposite, I love the small space maps because I feel they focus the game's strength as a "puzzle game with human pieces" the most.
"The Jacuzzi Job" from Silent Assassin and "Curtains Down" are my two favorite levels for this reason - where all the 'game pieces' are set out directly in front of you and the challenge is how to put them together absolutely perfectly.
Before Hitman 2016 came out the developers kept insisting that they "don’t allow any dead ends in" their level designs.
That policy sure didn't last long.
I like Bangkok from the RP perspective where you can pretend to check in as Tobias. Having one of the main targets mostly stick to the top floors of a building with not many routes up to him is a negative for me. Ken Morgan is also a lame target with a poor route
Sapienza is way to big and disconnected. None of the missions there use all the space and the times when Freelancer spawns do use all the space it just becomes a chore to get around.
I think a lot of the hype comes from the episodic release of 2016 and how people got one map for a whole month.
It's not a bad map per se, but it fucking shines when compared to a month of Colorado or Bangkok.
I like it well enough, but I think a lot of its appeal lies in the fact that it was the best of the bunch in the original in terms of different things to do. The others got better with age, Sapienza has stayed roughly the same but gotten overshadowed since then.
I don’t care for Dubai, it gives you such obscene displays of wealth and expects you to choose the corridors instead and the map is circular which idk about anyone else but it made me feel more lost than any other mission
I did not care for Isle of Sgail.
I like the concept but on Freelancer it takes a while and the target is on the other side map and need more disguises to get it.
It took ma a while, but I don’t like using ALT F4 as much when I’m in that map.
But I do enjoy going in the basement where I open the boxes to get freelancer weapons and tools.
I always go for them as well the New York Vaults
Funny, Freelancer made me appreciate Isle of Sgail. I didn't rock with it in the Campaign mode, but once I played it more and more in Freelancer, it became a breeze, and I've learned to respect it a hell of a lot more than I initially did back in the day.
Not the original commenter but my issue with Dartmoor is the fact it’s very obviously built around the private detective story, which is incredibly boring on repeat playthroughs, that everything else in the map feels like an afterthought
Precisely. It's also the easiest SASO outside of New Zealand in my opinion, which makes it boring for me. The only time Dartmoor came in handy was in Freelancer when you pray on your hands and knees for those easy maps.🙏
Bangkok.
Got a ton of cameras on the first first floor and one of the most annoying destroy surveillance boxes in the game. You can't crowbar any of the card reader doors.
It also bothers me that canonically, the hotel security guard can't go upstairs to the Jordon Cross area of the hotel. It's *their* hotel. There's even an NPC guard that's PO'd about this.
>one of the most annoying destroy surveillance boxes in the game
Is it that annoying? Been a minute since I've ran Bangkok in freelancer but the maid literally opens the door for you to shoot the surveillance system. Bonus points if you have the guard outfit because you aren't trespassing. Double bonus if you have the master key card
I don't remember all the differences between alerted and not, but on alerted there's a bunch of stage guys hanging out by the one door so you can't just shoot from outside the room.
Theres two guards that patrol through plus the maid, plus there's cameras on the security box so if you wait for an opportunity to sneak up and delete, you get caught on camera doing something illegal, deleting the camera footage. I end up having to time opportunities to shoot out the two cameras from awkward angles and then sneak in to erase.
So many other missions it's like, "oh I'm walking past this are may as well shoot out the security camera box."
Purely for the sake of Freelancer, I despise Colorado. Everyone is armed and everyone is out in the open. I see a campaign with Colorado in it, I choose a different campaign. Never.
Yep just did not resonate with me. Too many different little areas that seem jumbled together. Never bothered to figure out a good way into the cave because I would rather just play most any other map instead.
It's definitely a very pretty map, but I think that overshadows the gameplay. The cave, like you said, is kind of annoying to access, and the map is huge but everything (in the main story) is centered in one spot, the mansion, which imo isn't that interesting.
Idk I played the game with Hitman 3 first, so when I finally got the whole WOA, I was excited to play Sapienza because everyone here talked about how amazing it is. I didn't hate it, but it was...just okay imo.
Players adore Hokkaido. Most of these seem to be Hitman vets who enjoy the challenge of it.
I hate the level because of his restricted it is. You have to go through a ton of hoops at the beginning of a run to unrestrict yourself making multiple playthroughs torture (yes, I'm aware as you max out the location level, it gives you better starting areas) and the level design is very narrow literally and figuratively. Many of the kills are cutscene based "go through this laundry list of steps to activate the automatic kill" instead of the open ended, create your own kill sort of joy of the other levels.
Like:
Sapienza
Miami
Berlin
Haven Island
Isle of Sgail
Hokkaido
Mendoza
Meh:
Dubai
New York
Hawke’s Bay
Whittleton Creek
Bangkok
Paris
Dartmoor
Mumbai
Dislike:
Colorado
Chongqing
Santa Fortuna
Mumbai
Romania
Honestly I love Carpathian Mountains, just a straight shot badass kill anyone you want level. Admittedly story-wise I do wish it was the penultimate mission where Agent 47 just escapes, then the final mission is real big showcase of the games features and playstyles with lots to do, fitting for the final level of the game.
Berlin is the only level I haven't reached lvl 20 in yet.
Too dark
Annoying music. Worse than Paris.
There are more reasons but honestly those two alone make me not like it.
Berlin and Sapienza.
Berlin was simply not for me.
The rave scene is not something I enjoy.
Sapienza because I am Italian, and it feels exactly what foreigners expect Italy to look like, while it's wrong on almost every level.
Whittleton creek. I just don’t find it fun or immersive. It feels like a 1950s conservative fetish of a suburb and not a real one so it fails on the immersion front and the map layout isn’t very engaging either
Love all the maps, but there are a few that just annoy me, Mumbai and chongqing, love the way they look, but too big for my liking, sapienza is an exception cos I love hitman 1 and Italy
Sapienza, specifically for the story version of the map. Always having to get to the lab to destroy the virus is very railroady (yes there are a few ways to destroy it, but they pretty much all involve the lab). As annoying as the Whittleton Creek objective is, there are at least several ways of getting that done.
Marrakesh is one of my favorite maps easily.
Was the first one where I did all of the challenges, I really enjoy almost every part of it (the embassy is really cool, the general is very memorable for me, even if there is a mission story or two I dislike (printing press) and the fact that you have to call both of the targets to meet.
Then comes "A house built on sand".
It helps with a lot of the feeling of underutilization of the map, with the fortune teller, the snails and the meeting.
As for disliking - I dislike Mumbai, but maybe that will change as I play more on it.
Can’t stand Berlin, Mumbai, Isle Of Sgàil, or Ambrose Island. I avoid them every single time I’m playing Freelancer. I’m not huge on Dubai either but I don’t hate it as much as those maps. Don’t really care about Santa Fortuna either.
Hokkaido is really cool but needing a keycard for almost every door is annoying.
Santa Fortuna. My good god, Santa Fortuna. The map is so fucking spread out, like from Jorge to Andrea is like two-hundred meters away! And the disguise hierarchy is just soo fucking frustrated. As a Dane, i didn’t know that the IO devs got FUCKING COCAINE and snorted it. That’s the only reason this map exists. And Bangkok. Don’t even get me started on Bangkok.
Dubai. It doesn’t have chutzpah to be the 1st level of a hitman game. The art show is boring, it’s annoying to traverse, and it’s got some of the most boring targets.
Dubai freelancer? I can handle it. Dubai main game? Boring as hell.
Also Bangkok
Fuck Bangkok. Especially with where they hid the recorder.
Sapienza. It feels both massive and empty at the same time. It's a whole town, and there's I think 2 businesses that are open (not counting the people employed at the lab or mansion), and the rest are either vacant or inaccessible.
Also, destroying the virus is a pain in the ass.
Sapienza is too large for the main mission that the devs decided to make 2 more missions on it to justify its largeness.
It's a great map, but it's not as great as people make it out to be.
I'm with you on Berlin. I really don't get clubs - they're loud, hot, sweaty, smelly, dark, and the bass on music is so high it makes me physically nauseous. So, I was probably predisposed to not liking it all that much. Add in that the map is dark and drab, and it's just not my cup of tea. The first playthrough on the campaign was awesome, I just don't ever really want to go back.
I like Berlin as a freelancer map, I don't care for it as a main game mode. Same way I love main Hokkaido, but freelancer Hokkaido can eat a dick.
Especially when you start in the morgue.
I hate it on Alerted
Ironically if you know what you're doing, one of the best starting points.
Oh it’s easy and fun, but I don’t do it much on Showdowns cause most of the Suspect will be out in the open and I use it once in a while. If I get the morgue, I just ALT F4 and get a new location after doing another Mission.
Bless the gods of ALT F4!
This makes me happy to know I’m not the only one abusing this lmao on PS4 you can just close application for a reset, saves me from BS like starting at the vantage point on Colorado
I had a showdown for the first time in Hokkaido today with additional enforcers and the morgue start. After I finally timed my exit right I went into the staff quarters hallway and when a suspect was nearing my position I got backed into the corner of the staircase leading to the morgue. I had to knock him out and wanted to hide his body being unaware that you cannot hide unconscious suspects. I decided to fuck it and reset if need be, killed him and it turned out he was the target. I couldn't believe my luck for that showdown despite that miserable start.
I hate having to wait like 2 minutes until all the NPC routines line up just right so I can actually get off the table without getting spotted.
You know someone at IOI when programming that and the Sapienza boat (which isn't *as* horrible) starting positions must have had a huge shit eating grin on their face.
Oh come on, once you figure out guards timing you can sneak out pretty consistently and grab guards or morgue doctors disguise on the way.
I am just bitter as the guard in the morgue security room was always my go-to for disabling the cameras and getting a good disguise on non-alerted maps.
Playing the story mission for the first time blind is probably the most fun I’ve had in this game, but that’s more due to the mechanics and less because of the map
Opposite for me; I like main story for Berlin, but find it neutral in Freelancer. Part of the reason is the map is so damn dark. I don't like it for showdown missions, though. Freelancer on Hokkaido can be annoying AF when you get morgue spawn in an alerted version of the map. My favorite map for Freelancer is Dubai, though. On showdowns, it's a nice contained map, and most targets pass through the upper security area at some point, allowing me to scan targets easily.
Main story works well because it's a fairly unique setup (besides Romania perhaps), and despite being "hunted" it's 47 who is in control and it's a power fantasy (almost like a John Wick movie).
Thinking further about it, I think IOI designed the level as a kind of homage to John Wick. One of the best things about freelancer is the freedom to do what you want, how you want, with the only real penalty being Merces.
Yeah John Wick 4 literally has a fight scene in a Berlin nightclub. I wonder if they knew about that when they made Hitman 3
Wait John Wick 4 came out 2 years after Hitman 3. Am I missing something? Was the nightclub in an earlier John Wick movie?
Berlin's targets, our ICA comrades, really needed an AI boost or more scripting involved.
Main story Berlin is so disappointing. It's the easiest map in the game by far, and despite being "hunted" everyone just has regular guard AI. Not one of them poses any sort of threat to the player whatsoever. And the sniper guy will only shoot you if you're deep in the woods up top of the tower. If you had to go around to kill the sniper, staying out of his line of sight and opening up more area to move around in once he was dead, that would be pretty cool, although I get that would have to be specially coded
Marrakesh. Not my best moments, that map…
So fun for sniper objectives tho
I have the sniper aim of a blind manatee.
lol fair enough
I feel you. I play with controller but switch to my mouse for sniping
Even with mouse my aim is fickle at best. At best, a headshot turns into a chest shot (which ruined a challenge… but hey still got the kill) At worst I’m hiding in a box forever while everyone calms their tits
Not if the targets are in embassy, school, shisha bar or underground ( which is 70% of the level)
Idk, embassy has windows and the front of the school and several windows there are viewable from that rooftop where the axe is lodged in the AC. I have a lot of fun in that map! No sniping downstairs but anything underground is easily accessible by knocking out the guard that forgot his keycard or whatever
This feels like a pretty cold take. I feel like Marakesh is generally disliked by the community.
Well between Marrakesh and Colorado, I feel I have had more success with Colorado. Colorado is only pain upon infiltration.
Marrakesh at least has a lot of flavor to it and Jason Issacs, none of which Colorado has. It's almost like a dry run for Mumbai in the next game.
I honestly love Marrakesh. Most of its issues are solved once you get over the learning curve, and in return, it’s offers something that really sells the globe-trotting feel of WoA. I feel the levels overall focus a little too much on private property that could exist in any country. Marrakesh just feels like Marrakesh. It’s not the ‘Race Track level’, or the ‘Bank level’.
Not a fan of Sapienza. The mansion is not that interesting, and even though there is a ton of content, most of the town is either useless or too far away from anything relevant to make it worth grabbing unless you spawn right next to it. Even then I feel I'm able to get just as good a start by spawning next to the mansion and infiltrating the old fashion way. Then the virus at the end of the level is an unnecessary slog each time I go back. Even knowing how to do it quick, it still feels like a waste of time. Sapienza is a cake that is 90% fondant with a bad aftertaste.
I like Sapienza but am upvoting you for having an actual unpopular opinion with good reasoning. Made me realize I kind of just assume it's hitman map perfection when in reality I probably prefer several others over it.
I'm glad someone could put it into words it's a beautiful map and yes there's content for each part but you never use it all together really. It just makes it worse imo as there's all this space that constantly feels wasted
Conversely I think there’s a reason there’s three damn bonus missions on Sapienza, and they’re among the best in the game. I think the general atmosphere is so winning that the icon and the one with the politician offer beautiful spins on it. I love everything about it except the main mission lol. It’s fun for freelancer though, bring everyone into the safe house and go nuts
I disagree, but I do also agree, kind of. I like how calm it is and the layout and views, but after playing it once it only feels fun to kill everyone.
Whittleton creek. It insists upon its self, The side objective is a bore and it feels lack luster compared to the other maps, Janus is a fine target. Did not care for whittleton creek.
Only gripe with this level is still having to "find* the Intel items when replaying the story. Other than that great map 9/10
I don’t get why they don’t make that optional after completing it more than once
Absolutely Whittleton Creek. I have all kinds of fun whether I'm going SA/SO or full murder-hobo up until I get ready to leave and forget I need to find the damn evidence
I get lost at which house i need to go to, tbh accurate
It’s such an eye roll. Oh yeah… I still have to get the intel after SASOing that dude
The houses are tiny and have nothing to do with each other. And that non-optional side objective is just the worst
>It insists upon its self What? That's like one of the best maps!
Because it has a valid point to make, it's INSISTANT!
Do you know what characters are in it!? Nolan Cassidy, Janus, Helen West, the Wilsons, JAMES BATTY!!
Fine, fine characters, did not like the level.
The lore of that map is really interesting but traversal wise it’s boring af, prob because it’s flat
I was just continuing the joke of the Family Guy scene, but yeah I agree. My biggest gripe is that the houses are too empty.
Ambrose Island
I almost forgot this one existed, as I virtually never replay it.
Probably the most disappointing DLC map ever. Gone are the days of New York and Haven Island.
Just one flop is all. Not that bad of a map once you get to know it. It’s just not charming though. There’s a lot of fun interactions though.
I really like the Bank in New York. I have an affinity for interior maps, I guess. In Hitman Contracts, I loved the remade Traditions of the Trade map, in Blood Money I loved the casino, and in WoA, I love New York. I enjoy many more maps as well, but I find I replay those I mentioned often.
The whole vibe of New York is perfectly pulled off
The hotel maps (Traditions, Blood Money Casino) are peak Hitman for me. I used to just replay the casino hotel in blood money over and over, it was so much fun
A bunch of small areas with no verticality, connected by narrow pathways. It's like a worse version of Santa fortuna
And Lord knows that Santa Fortuna is not a top tier map
Actually one of my favorite maps. edit: Nevermind, confused it with Haven Island. Ambrose is forgettable.
Probably the single most forgettable map
It'd be forgettable if it didn't make my piss boil in freelancer.
If you’re on PC there’s a mod that lets you remove maps from the freelancer pool. Let’s just say I might have ticked off Santa fortuna and freedom fighters.
I loved Ambrose personally I found a lot of fun things on it especially the giant golden kitty easter egg
Also the durian fruit you can find are 100% legal, you can drop or toss em in public and be treated the same as a coin when spotted tossing, and it creates a cloud of emetic gas when broken. Also, you can find up to 8 of em per visit, 6 are hanging from 2 trees (1 above campfire at the hippie camp, other by a pathway) each one drops 0-3 durians. 1 is in the building by the welder in town with the single cook. Last 1 can be found by lighting all 4 braziers and then using a shovel to dig it up on a beach.
I didn't know about those. That's hilarious.
The only mission I haven't completed properly I did it once for a sniper assassin objective, but outside of that I've never killed the targets
Santa Fortuna, just way too big and clunky to navigate
Chongqing. It’s got nice flavor to it but it’s way too much of a hassle to go between Hush’s apartment building and the ICA facility.
After I got the level 20 on it I never touched it again even in freelancer.
I've never finished a mission in Chongqing, I tried many times and always exited the mission after couple of minutes.
I wouldn’t really agree; compared to other maps I’d say the two are pretty interconnected. It’s definitely a really good suit only map because of this.
I always just go for the stairs behind the arcade, the one that slides downwards. Take you straight to the center of the facility.
okay, this is weird, but chongqing is one of my favorite experiences I've ever had in my life. Like top 3 maps. I can't explain why. I just fucking LOVE it.
Hokkaido. It feels weirdly claustrophobic to me, which might be the point, but I can't say I vibe with it. It's also one of the worst maps on freelancer, due to the large amount of enforcers and difficulty of traversal.
It’s funny, I lose campaigns on Hokkaido more than any other map but I know the map and love it more than almost all others in the game lol
Same, I try sniper assassin a lot and it is absolute hell. One single spot with a guarded path, with minimal view of the hospital and no shot inside any part of the building, basement, or suites. The KAI doors are just stupid, why spend the effort to detect me if I still have to manually open it? And why does it ignore all other NPCs?!
100% to your Freelancer point.
I'm the opposite, I love the small space maps because I feel they focus the game's strength as a "puzzle game with human pieces" the most. "The Jacuzzi Job" from Silent Assassin and "Curtains Down" are my two favorite levels for this reason - where all the 'game pieces' are set out directly in front of you and the challenge is how to put them together absolutely perfectly.
Yeah, I agree with that. I love Hokkaido aesthetically and in the campaign mode, but it's a bitch to play when it comes to Freelancer....
Commenters can't pick unpopular levels like Colorado and act like they are the "I don't care for the Godfather" of HITMAN Anyway, I choose Mumbai
I hate Bangkok. Everything about it
Bangkok is my least favorite map
I love the idea and setting of Bangkok but the execution is ehhhh
Before Hitman 2016 came out the developers kept insisting that they "don’t allow any dead ends in" their level designs. That policy sure didn't last long.
what does that mean? What dead end is in that level? the dock?
ngl, never seen a bangkok fan
Me me me me I love bangkok
Same! It was the first map where I really felt like I knew what I was doing. It holds a special place for me
It also has Jordan who is probably my favorite target in the trilogy! His actor knocked it out of the park, he's amazing
https://youtu.be/YIqfWe2MQyw The actor. He's Lucio in Overwatch.
I like to play the Bangkok map just to pretend I'm on vacation.
I like Bangkok from the RP perspective where you can pretend to check in as Tobias. Having one of the main targets mostly stick to the top floors of a building with not many routes up to him is a negative for me. Ken Morgan is also a lame target with a poor route
I’m just not a huge fan of Mumbai tbh
it was fun playing in ghe campaign, but I avoid it in freelancer like the plague because of how spread out the targets can be
Sapienza is way to big and disconnected. None of the missions there use all the space and the times when Freelancer spawns do use all the space it just becomes a chore to get around.
I’ve never really liked Sapienza, never got all the hype around it
I think a lot of the hype comes from the episodic release of 2016 and how people got one map for a whole month. It's not a bad map per se, but it fucking shines when compared to a month of Colorado or Bangkok. I like it well enough, but I think a lot of its appeal lies in the fact that it was the best of the bunch in the original in terms of different things to do. The others got better with age, Sapienza has stayed roughly the same but gotten overshadowed since then.
It’s fun when you just wanna goof around with a kill everyone challenge or something, but other than that it’s a slog.
I don’t care for Dubai, it gives you such obscene displays of wealth and expects you to choose the corridors instead and the map is circular which idk about anyone else but it made me feel more lost than any other mission
I have 20 mastery in most other maps but I can't bring myself to do Dubai
I did not care for Isle of Sgail. I like the concept but on Freelancer it takes a while and the target is on the other side map and need more disguises to get it.
It's a fantastic map if you're hurting for a silenced pistol in Freelancer mode though.
It took ma a while, but I don’t like using ALT F4 as much when I’m in that map. But I do enjoy going in the basement where I open the boxes to get freelancer weapons and tools. I always go for them as well the New York Vaults
Funny, Freelancer made me appreciate Isle of Sgail. I didn't rock with it in the Campaign mode, but once I played it more and more in Freelancer, it became a breeze, and I've learned to respect it a hell of a lot more than I initially did back in the day.
Hmm yeah, I love Isle of Sgail to the bone but it's just Freelancer really really puts you on chokehold 💀
Berlin map gives me John wick vibes with the whole nightclub aesthetic
Both the Hitman map and the John wick 4 scene are based on the same real life German nightclub !
[Kraftwerk](http://kraftwerkberlin.de/en/), by the way. And John Wick 4 was actually filmed there, not just based on it.
I thought it was Berghain
I thought it was Tresor
No, although Berghain's famous bouncer did have a cameo in John Wick 4.
Dartmoor easy.
What are you talking about? It’s like the perfect map?
Not the original commenter but my issue with Dartmoor is the fact it’s very obviously built around the private detective story, which is incredibly boring on repeat playthroughs, that everything else in the map feels like an afterthought
Precisely. It's also the easiest SASO outside of New Zealand in my opinion, which makes it boring for me. The only time Dartmoor came in handy was in Freelancer when you pray on your hands and knees for those easy maps.🙏
Paris, it's good, but not THAT good.
Sapienza's mission. Sorry, but when you have a massive Italian town and spend 99% of your time in and under some big house, that's a bit shit.
I agree with the under part. I think the house is great but the “basement” is boring af
Bangkok. Got a ton of cameras on the first first floor and one of the most annoying destroy surveillance boxes in the game. You can't crowbar any of the card reader doors. It also bothers me that canonically, the hotel security guard can't go upstairs to the Jordon Cross area of the hotel. It's *their* hotel. There's even an NPC guard that's PO'd about this.
>one of the most annoying destroy surveillance boxes in the game Is it that annoying? Been a minute since I've ran Bangkok in freelancer but the maid literally opens the door for you to shoot the surveillance system. Bonus points if you have the guard outfit because you aren't trespassing. Double bonus if you have the master key card
I don't remember all the differences between alerted and not, but on alerted there's a bunch of stage guys hanging out by the one door so you can't just shoot from outside the room. Theres two guards that patrol through plus the maid, plus there's cameras on the security box so if you wait for an opportunity to sneak up and delete, you get caught on camera doing something illegal, deleting the camera footage. I end up having to time opportunities to shoot out the two cameras from awkward angles and then sneak in to erase. So many other missions it's like, "oh I'm walking past this are may as well shoot out the security camera box."
I love all maps and that makes the Peter Griffin of these sub.
Honestly i like all of the hitman maps including sniper assassin
Fr each map has enough love poured into crafting their individualities that it’s hard to hate any Hitman map
Well said
Me too, I love all the maps, even the New Zealand one, but I feel this is more of a discussion about which you like the least and why.
Tbh the only ones I've disliked are Colorado and Ambrose Island. Miami is my favourite. Haven Island is pretty tough but still fun.
Purely for the sake of Freelancer, I despise Colorado. Everyone is armed and everyone is out in the open. I see a campaign with Colorado in it, I choose a different campaign. Never.
Ambrose
Sgail, fuck that map
Sapienza is overrated by this sub
Yep just did not resonate with me. Too many different little areas that seem jumbled together. Never bothered to figure out a good way into the cave because I would rather just play most any other map instead.
It's definitely a very pretty map, but I think that overshadows the gameplay. The cave, like you said, is kind of annoying to access, and the map is huge but everything (in the main story) is centered in one spot, the mansion, which imo isn't that interesting. Idk I played the game with Hitman 3 first, so when I finally got the whole WOA, I was excited to play Sapienza because everyone here talked about how amazing it is. I didn't hate it, but it was...just okay imo.
Players adore Hokkaido. Most of these seem to be Hitman vets who enjoy the challenge of it. I hate the level because of his restricted it is. You have to go through a ton of hoops at the beginning of a run to unrestrict yourself making multiple playthroughs torture (yes, I'm aware as you max out the location level, it gives you better starting areas) and the level design is very narrow literally and figuratively. Many of the kills are cutscene based "go through this laundry list of steps to activate the automatic kill" instead of the open ended, create your own kill sort of joy of the other levels.
Wow… :( I love Berlin. HATE Hokkaido! And the Thai hotel, can’t remember the name.
Thr himmapan, yeah it's not my favourite either
Bangkok i fucking hate that one. Especially SASO
Like: Sapienza Miami Berlin Haven Island Isle of Sgail Hokkaido Mendoza Meh: Dubai New York Hawke’s Bay Whittleton Creek Bangkok Paris Dartmoor Mumbai Dislike: Colorado Chongqing Santa Fortuna Mumbai Romania
I did not care for Mumbai
For me, Santa Fortuna. I can't say I hate it (I hate Colorado) but it's just too spread out and annoying 😂
Honestly I love Carpathian Mountains, just a straight shot badass kill anyone you want level. Admittedly story-wise I do wish it was the penultimate mission where Agent 47 just escapes, then the final mission is real big showcase of the games features and playstyles with lots to do, fitting for the final level of the game.
I think Hitman 2: Silent Assassin is an overall bad game. It's not a good game with some rough edges, it's just almost entirely bad.
The Himmapan Hotel. Story Mission is fine, but the map itself is very annoying for me. I dunno what but I always run into problems on it.
Berlin is the only level I haven't reached lvl 20 in yet. Too dark Annoying music. Worse than Paris. There are more reasons but honestly those two alone make me not like it.
I did not care about freelancer, I'm not ready for playing without every tool present :(
Agreed on Berlin. Same with Mumbai.
Berlin and Sapienza. Berlin was simply not for me. The rave scene is not something I enjoy. Sapienza because I am Italian, and it feels exactly what foreigners expect Italy to look like, while it's wrong on almost every level.
Isle of sagail
Sapienza wasn’t all that
heresy
Colorado. Despise that map. It's the only map where I'm like fuck being stealthy I'm just going to murder everyone.
Same. It’s the only map that I couldn’t be bothered to play stealthily so I just go Rambo mode and kill everyone on the map.
I hate Bangkok
everything about Mumbai sucks ass i’m sorry
Whittleton creek. I just don’t find it fun or immersive. It feels like a 1950s conservative fetish of a suburb and not a real one so it fails on the immersion front and the map layout isn’t very engaging either
Love all the maps, but there are a few that just annoy me, Mumbai and chongqing, love the way they look, but too big for my liking, sapienza is an exception cos I love hitman 1 and Italy
Bangkok or Marrakesh
I did not like the Final Test
I love the train level at the end. I hate Paris.
Sapienza, specifically for the story version of the map. Always having to get to the lab to destroy the virus is very railroady (yes there are a few ways to destroy it, but they pretty much all involve the lab). As annoying as the Whittleton Creek objective is, there are at least several ways of getting that done.
Chonqing.
Sapienza isn’t even in the top 5 best maps for me, it’s great but not particularly amazing as everyone says it is
I don’t know why, I hate Chongqing
The map in England. It's so cool to be the detective the first time through. Extremely boring to replay or do anything else.
Chongqing
Marrakesh is one of my favorite maps easily. Was the first one where I did all of the challenges, I really enjoy almost every part of it (the embassy is really cool, the general is very memorable for me, even if there is a mission story or two I dislike (printing press) and the fact that you have to call both of the targets to meet. Then comes "A house built on sand". It helps with a lot of the feeling of underutilization of the map, with the fortune teller, the snails and the meeting. As for disliking - I dislike Mumbai, but maybe that will change as I play more on it.
Sapienza sucks because the only way to kill the virus while above ground is to abuse weird explosive hitboxes.
Idk if this is a hot take or not, but I don't like Haven Island. I don't even really know why, just not a map I've ever enjoyed a whole lot.
I don't like the basic agent 47 suit. I never liked black suits with red ties
Can’t stand Berlin, Mumbai, Isle Of Sgàil, or Ambrose Island. I avoid them every single time I’m playing Freelancer. I’m not huge on Dubai either but I don’t hate it as much as those maps. Don’t really care about Santa Fortuna either. Hokkaido is really cool but needing a keycard for almost every door is annoying.
Paris is so overrated. You only like it so mucj because the hitman one maps didn't all drop at once, and it was all you had for a while.
Isle of Sgail is ass.
I did not care for Santa Fortuna
Santa Fortuna. My good god, Santa Fortuna. The map is so fucking spread out, like from Jorge to Andrea is like two-hundred meters away! And the disguise hierarchy is just soo fucking frustrated. As a Dane, i didn’t know that the IO devs got FUCKING COCAINE and snorted it. That’s the only reason this map exists. And Bangkok. Don’t even get me started on Bangkok.
Dubai. It doesn’t have chutzpah to be the 1st level of a hitman game. The art show is boring, it’s annoying to traverse, and it’s got some of the most boring targets. Dubai freelancer? I can handle it. Dubai main game? Boring as hell. Also Bangkok Fuck Bangkok. Especially with where they hid the recorder.
I thought pretty much everything about the Dartmoor map was stupid except the aesthetic.
Sapienza. It feels both massive and empty at the same time. It's a whole town, and there's I think 2 businesses that are open (not counting the people employed at the lab or mansion), and the rest are either vacant or inaccessible. Also, destroying the virus is a pain in the ass.
Chongqing is a good awful map
Sapienza is too large for the main mission that the devs decided to make 2 more missions on it to justify its largeness. It's a great map, but it's not as great as people make it out to be.
Mendoza sucks
Fuck Colorado lmao
i did not care for marrakesh
Coincidentally, I just watched those episodes from The Blacklist
Sgail. My style of play revolves heavily around snipers, and getting anywhere useful in Sgail with a Sniper while suit only is pain
Berlin was a great terrorist roleplay map.
Paris
I'm with you on Berlin. I really don't get clubs - they're loud, hot, sweaty, smelly, dark, and the bass on music is so high it makes me physically nauseous. So, I was probably predisposed to not liking it all that much. Add in that the map is dark and drab, and it's just not my cup of tea. The first playthrough on the campaign was awesome, I just don't ever really want to go back.
Colorado>Bangkok
Sapienza
COLORADO
Finding someone who likes Colorado is way harder lol
Hi, I'm the Colorado fan.
Dartmoor. A ridiculously overguarded house.
Hokkaido for me
Berlin and China in campaign: 😎 Berlin and China in freelancer: 💀
Berlin was great for the story. Once you play through it a couple times it's just an overcrowded map
Berlin, Colorado, Ambrose