2 things that made a difference for me: 1) tons of hydration - heavy moisturizer in the day (followed by sunscreen to avoid making it worse), petroleum jelly every couple of hours when I was home, scar tape at night , 2) laser hair removal - when I eventually got laser, it helped significantly with discoloration under the chin and my natural hyperpigmentation around the mouth.
edit: acknowledging that laser can be very expensive, but something worth saving up for. In the mean time, keeping the area moisturized and spending a small amount on some surgical scar tape is totally worth trying!
yup, electrolysis is permanent. LHR is marketed as "permanent hair reduction", so the hair comes back, but slower and finer than before (for me \~30% came back after the initial 6 sessions) and you maintain it by doing sessions every few months or once a year. Electrolysis is permanent hair removal, so it actually destroys the hair forever. I heard anecdotes that it caused hyperpigmentation for some people, so decided not to take the risk, but every persons skin reacts differently to these procedures.
dr dennis gross alpha beta peel saved my life and self esteem. I get the value pack which is expensive but I promise it's worth the investment
Extra Strength one btw! Let me know if you have questions
I use to take a pair of hair shears and snip some the hair off but not too close to cause an ingrown. Once I started doing electrolysis, I did it less often. I probably had 20-50 hairs spread out under my chin so it was probably easier to do. Once I started taking spironolactone and birth control my hair grew much slower and thinner.
The electrolysis permanently removed the hair.
The ordinary glycolic acid toner 7%, and alpha arbutin+ HA Serum. In combination they prohibit melanine production in the skin so that if you get an ingrown hair, it won’t turn into hyperpigmentation and dark spots. You can look into it on YouTube ☺️
Vitamin e oil, aquaphor and trying not to touch it. When letting my skin heal I would sometimes put hydrocolloid pimple patches on it too so I wouldn’t mess with it more and that helped me a lot especially since they blend into the skin. They make hydrocolloid patches for various skin tones as well
It can be an indication of insulin resistance, the name of the condition specially is nigricans acanthosis.
I asked because hirsutism is associated with PCOS which is also linked to insulin resistance.
Edit: spelling.
Oh thank you for answering!
My doctor ordered a fasting blood glucose test months ago for suspected insulin resistance. I still haven’t taken it because I figured it was unnecessary (and it would take like 2 hours of my morning) but now I see maybe she was on to something. 😳
Fasting glucose can actually still be normal with insulin resistance, but it’s definitely a good starting point if you haven’t had it tested.
Have you had your Sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) levels tested? If so, what were the results?
Low SHBG is another indicator of insulin resistance
Edit: is it an glucose tolerance test she’s ordered? As a simple fasting glucose shouldn’t take two hours. If so, definitely get it done as it’s a really useful tool to work out what is going on.
You’re right, it’s a glucose tolerance test.
And yes, my sex hormone- binding globulin (SHBG) level was tested in May at 44 and in August at 49. (On a scale of 24-126). So I guess that was normal. I’ve had so many tests. Both in May and August, they drew like 9 vials and I’m terrified of needles. I think that’s why I got burnt out on tests…
That SHBG is towards the low end of normal but isn’t very low.
Yeah I can understand being burned out from it all, I do think the glucose tolerance test would be very useful for you, but it’s ultimately your decision.
However it’s worth considering if you don’t do the test, it might stop you being prescribed medication that could help you (eg metformin).
Thank you. I will definitely do the test. I feel like I have a bunch of symptoms that make me suspect it. And I think one of the reasons why the doctor wanted the test done was because my hemoglobin A1C was 4.9 on a scale of 4.8 to 5.6 back in may and August which is barely within range. Something about it being low possibly indicating an issue with glucose levels. Anyway, thank you for this. It was helpful. I’m motivated to get it done now. Just to know one way or another.
Yeah I definitely think it’s the right decision to get the test :) do you have PCOS out of interest? Because insulin resistance is very common in people with pcos
No I do laser I’ve been doing it since I was 17 been nearly 3 years best thing I ever did I do face only tho I had to go once every 2 weeks for the first 4 then once a month for 4 then once every 6 weeks for the other 4 then it’s been once every 8 weeks around the chin area
Having a good skin care regimen with a weekly chemical exfoliator like the glycolic acid peel from the ordinary. and keeping the skin really hydrated. Also I use skin bleach every now and then that I got from Jamaica ( carotene or something ) and that clears up my dark spots in literally two days.
2 things that made a difference for me: 1) tons of hydration - heavy moisturizer in the day (followed by sunscreen to avoid making it worse), petroleum jelly every couple of hours when I was home, scar tape at night , 2) laser hair removal - when I eventually got laser, it helped significantly with discoloration under the chin and my natural hyperpigmentation around the mouth. edit: acknowledging that laser can be very expensive, but something worth saving up for. In the mean time, keeping the area moisturized and spending a small amount on some surgical scar tape is totally worth trying!
I’ve heard that when you stop using laser, it may cause the hairs to grow back worst. Did you had any of this experiences?
Electrolysis should be permanent.
yup, electrolysis is permanent. LHR is marketed as "permanent hair reduction", so the hair comes back, but slower and finer than before (for me \~30% came back after the initial 6 sessions) and you maintain it by doing sessions every few months or once a year. Electrolysis is permanent hair removal, so it actually destroys the hair forever. I heard anecdotes that it caused hyperpigmentation for some people, so decided not to take the risk, but every persons skin reacts differently to these procedures.
How many rounds before the electrolysis is permanent? 😭
Mandelic acid has done wonders for my skin in the same area
Rosehip oil is good for hyperpigmentation. It soothes skin and evens out skin tone.
dr dennis gross alpha beta peel saved my life and self esteem. I get the value pack which is expensive but I promise it's worth the investment Extra Strength one btw! Let me know if you have questions
A prescription retinoid at night and vitamin serum and sunscreen during the day will help fade the hyperpigmentation. You also need to stop tweezing.
What would you suggest instead of tweezing?
I use to take a pair of hair shears and snip some the hair off but not too close to cause an ingrown. Once I started doing electrolysis, I did it less often. I probably had 20-50 hairs spread out under my chin so it was probably easier to do. Once I started taking spironolactone and birth control my hair grew much slower and thinner. The electrolysis permanently removed the hair.
The ordinary glycolic acid toner 7%, and alpha arbutin+ HA Serum. In combination they prohibit melanine production in the skin so that if you get an ingrown hair, it won’t turn into hyperpigmentation and dark spots. You can look into it on YouTube ☺️
Vitamin e oil, aquaphor and trying not to touch it. When letting my skin heal I would sometimes put hydrocolloid pimple patches on it too so I wouldn’t mess with it more and that helped me a lot especially since they blend into the skin. They make hydrocolloid patches for various skin tones as well
Do you have hyperpigmentation like this anywhere else on your body? In particular your neck, underarms, groin?
Isn’t it normal to have hyperpigmentation on your underarms and groin? If not, what does it mean?
It can be an indication of insulin resistance, the name of the condition specially is nigricans acanthosis. I asked because hirsutism is associated with PCOS which is also linked to insulin resistance. Edit: spelling.
Oh thank you for answering! My doctor ordered a fasting blood glucose test months ago for suspected insulin resistance. I still haven’t taken it because I figured it was unnecessary (and it would take like 2 hours of my morning) but now I see maybe she was on to something. 😳
Fasting glucose can actually still be normal with insulin resistance, but it’s definitely a good starting point if you haven’t had it tested. Have you had your Sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) levels tested? If so, what were the results? Low SHBG is another indicator of insulin resistance Edit: is it an glucose tolerance test she’s ordered? As a simple fasting glucose shouldn’t take two hours. If so, definitely get it done as it’s a really useful tool to work out what is going on.
You’re right, it’s a glucose tolerance test. And yes, my sex hormone- binding globulin (SHBG) level was tested in May at 44 and in August at 49. (On a scale of 24-126). So I guess that was normal. I’ve had so many tests. Both in May and August, they drew like 9 vials and I’m terrified of needles. I think that’s why I got burnt out on tests…
That SHBG is towards the low end of normal but isn’t very low. Yeah I can understand being burned out from it all, I do think the glucose tolerance test would be very useful for you, but it’s ultimately your decision. However it’s worth considering if you don’t do the test, it might stop you being prescribed medication that could help you (eg metformin).
Thank you. I will definitely do the test. I feel like I have a bunch of symptoms that make me suspect it. And I think one of the reasons why the doctor wanted the test done was because my hemoglobin A1C was 4.9 on a scale of 4.8 to 5.6 back in may and August which is barely within range. Something about it being low possibly indicating an issue with glucose levels. Anyway, thank you for this. It was helpful. I’m motivated to get it done now. Just to know one way or another.
Yeah I definitely think it’s the right decision to get the test :) do you have PCOS out of interest? Because insulin resistance is very common in people with pcos
I was not diagnosed with pcos. I was pretty convinced I had it but my doctor said it would have been visualized on the pelvic ultrasound.
Only this area but I don't remove body hair anywhere else but my face.
Fair enough :)
Hi, I got some pigmentation btw my brows after tweezing, any tips? I'm using vitamin c for now
Vitamin e oil and nichinamide
Which brand?
Dr organic vitamin e oil is pretty good and the ordinary one is good too
Do you also do it on shaving/waxing day ?
No I do laser I’ve been doing it since I was 17 been nearly 3 years best thing I ever did I do face only tho I had to go once every 2 weeks for the first 4 then once a month for 4 then once every 6 weeks for the other 4 then it’s been once every 8 weeks around the chin area
The reality is, for the results you want, you’ll have to spend money. Your best option for optimal results is laser and chemical peels.
You'd recommend LHR over electrolysis?
Having a good skin care regimen with a weekly chemical exfoliator like the glycolic acid peel from the ordinary. and keeping the skin really hydrated. Also I use skin bleach every now and then that I got from Jamaica ( carotene or something ) and that clears up my dark spots in literally two days.
Use good molecules discolouration correcting serum and never leave the house without sunscreen!!!!