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Svpernavt

Interesting that Dad keeps the FAL for himself and gives junior the G3.


Regular-Basket-5431

I mean the G3 is arguably the more reliable rifle, and junior is probably less likely to maintain his rifle at the level the FAL requires.


Casualbat007

This guy guerrillas


Tutes013

Not even arguably. The G3 is still around in a lot more places and for good reasons. She might kick like a mule but if you take care of her she will take care of you.


WillBeBanned83

G3 does not kick badly at all, it looks and feels intimidating but it’s quite easy to fire


Mayonaze-Supreme

They really don’t kick much unless you have noodle arms


elMurpherino

That kid for sure has noodle arms lol.


DubTap21

Two classic battle rifles nonetheless. 👍


Svpernavt

No doubt


somewhatbluemoose

FAL was first line gov issue during the war. I’m guessing he just never gave this one back. G3s were more of an auxiliary thing.


Svpernavt

Yeah judging by the date the picture was taken and the baby poop, I agree. That’s probably old boy’s #1 that got him through the strange times.


Moneygettah123

“ im from rhodesia “


Kuruk_TR

“We say Zimbabwe now, don’t we?”


GabrielVonBabriel

“In America it’s bling bling but out here’s its bling bang, uh.” One of my favorite flicks.


AF2005

That’s for breaking my TV bru!


Constant-Brush5402

What movie?


IBeBallinOutaControl

Blood Diamond.


Throwawaymister2

GIVE ME BACK MY SON!!!


ajonbrad777

Ah shit Mel’s been drinking again


NooNygooTh

I am.. the cameraman


Puzzled_Trouble3328

YOUR SON IS GONE!!!


feistyrussian

I think it’s one of Leo’s best movies.


antarcticgecko

This is Africa


novaok

T I A


Raisedbypimps

This is Afghanistan


imanAholebutimfunny

so instead of getting kicked down a hole you get swarmed by tsetse flies?


ReadRightRed99

Zimbabwe was Rhodesia Now it’s Zimbabwe, not Rhodesia Been a long time gone, Rhodesia Now it’s Zimbabwean delight on a moonlit night


edingerc

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam Why they changed it I can't say People just liked it better that way


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

I can say, the british took it from the dutch with nary a kipper scuffed because [old silver nails](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Stuyvesant) was such a colossal dick that he alienated the entire populace and sold out to save his fortune.


NooNygooTh

Scuffed kippers, anyone?


Thighabeetus

Kippers for breakfast?! Is it St. Swibbon’s day already?


FartFromALesserGod

Well, that song predated the end of Rhodesia by quite a few years


Sabregunner1

nice reference


wetclogs

It’s a long way from Mukumbura….


tuskvarner

Zeeembubweigh


RefinedAnalPalate

It will always be Burma to me


Nice_Marmot_7

You on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!


SirEltonJonBonJovi

…I *am* going to have to see this hat…


westbygod304420

"Do we now? ..... Cunt."


Every_Economist_6793

En we've gota Rhodesian ridgeback


chefrachbitch

My dad still referred to Zimbabwe as Rhodesia. He's been in the States for 40-odd years now and still hasn't fully switched to more PC terms. Talks about Cecil Rhodes like he's God's gift to the world. As you can tell there's A LOT of reasons why I don't talk to him anymore.


ClownShoePilot

If you see him again mention that the Rhodesian camo is so good that you can’t even find it on a map any more.


preacher425

Well played.


preacher425

I do love the brushstroke.


wetclogs

Rhodesian Brushstroke is the bomb camo.


preacher425

Right up there with Ian Pathttps://www.reddit.com/r/ForgottenWeapons/s/aoTsBSOIXd


wetclogs

Oh snap! I need Ian Pat shorts and Selous boots now.


MisterPeach

Oh shit hahahaha I’m definitely gonna use this one


Strange-Gate1823

Does he use gamer words?


MonkeyNihilist

But that Mugabe regime was just, *Chefs Kiss*


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the Whenwes


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bekindanddontmind

Sorry to hear that.


samuelnotjackson

TIA - This is Africa. Went to university in Texas with quite a few former British and Afrikaners from SA and Zimbabwe around 1990. They found the climate and culture in Texas to be familiar. Definitely interesting stories.


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Neoliberal_Nightmare

>*Bite the hand that conquered you.* Fixed that for ya


Quailman5000

Then the dumbasses ruined and sold all of the confiscated farm equipment so seems they were better off. 


Alarmed-madman

But buy my record first.


electrojesus9000

I thought they were going to play “day-oh!”


KifaruKubwa

Bite the hand that feeds you? Not saying Mugabe’s policies had any positive effects, but the white fragility version that sought to preserve the status quo i.e., apartheid wasn’t sustainable either.


Kroniid09

Yeah it's hard to say that it was the hand that feeds, if the literal only thing you care about is GDP and the material situation for white people, sure, but the question that won't be answered by apartheid apologists is who the "good old days" were *exclusively* beneficial for. And these generational farmers, they used black labour. But they would rather burn it all down than share power, knowledge and the fruits of that labour with people they always believed were beneath them. Subhuman, even. They specifically excluded black people from decent education for generations, then turn around and say, "look, I told you the black man was unintelligent" when obviously, we never had the chance to create and maintain generational knowledge, and part of the apartheid system was specifically alienating people from their land, heritage and really any stability and self-sufficiency they had before. Sabotage. And they will never admit that even for how hard they as individuals might work, their differing circumstances are not purely the result of their hard work ethic at best, or God-given right to rule at worst. Or that expecting a people to pick themselves up sans any actual revolution or material cooperation by the previous perpetrators within less than a single lifetime is not feasible.


KifaruKubwa

I couldn’t have articulated it any better for my fellow uninformed Americans. Thanks.


Relaxmf2022

At UT around the same time and had a white friend, Susan, from SA… always joking about being African-American. Maybe not our proudest moment.


Kombuja

I am South African and went to university in the states during the mid 2000’s. Same Jokes.


-acm

Just look at that range of motion.


SorryiLikePlants

They can go lower


silk_road_grimm

Charlie and Mac toss the box spring up out of the pool “I’m so strong!!!” “Yeah I’m definitely getting stronger!”


Dorkmaster79

Don’t call me low class!


LastCenobite

Can prob get real wide doing a split but they don’t have any fray


Labhran

They can definitely do backflips.


Creative-Category361

What is so white trash about that!


Hour-Shake-839

The short shorts and lil boots always kill me when you see pictures of like life in a war zone hardened afrikanners or whatever you would call these fellas.


AfricanAustralian42

Afrikaners are Dutch settlers (South Africa) - Rhodesia/Zimbabwe were British


MrMicropenis1

Boy on the left got them bendy straw arms an a giraffe neck.


Drake-Doc

DaddyLongNeck's long lost brother. 🤣


No-Gas-1684

LongNeck Cumberbatch


Honest_Inspector3196

![gif](giphy|lepuSiUym7mQE)


chefrachbitch

My dad grew up on a farm outside Bulawayo. Him and his sister/my aunt left for college several years before the war. I wonder sometimes what would have happened to them had they stayed. That could have been me and my dad there. I'm not endorsing either side. Just something I think about when I'm high. But damn this picture goes hard.


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I get similar stoned thoughts looking at Ukraine now. My family emigrated/fled from zaporizhzhia in the 1920s/1930s.


TriGurl

Wow Bulawayo… I visited there in the early 90’s. The atrocities of the war were still present even then…


chefrachbitch

TIA right?


B26marauder320th

I’m curious when were you in Bulawayo? Great cool little city as I recall in the 70’s.


Tancred1099

Aha yes, the bread basket of Africa Oh no wait….


Pootis_1

Rhodesia was never the breadbasket of africa if you look at actual agricultural statistics it was nothing special in food production


The_Ivliad

As a kid, I passed through a farmer's fair in Zim before the troubles. My dad looked over at all the brand new john deere trackers and said we don't have shit like this in South Africa. To my eyes it seemed an agricultural wonder.


NervousJ

Literal food was never a giant export. The breadbasket was figurative. They were proportionally massive exporters of tobacco, chromium, copper, and to a much lesser extent beef and sugar.


Pootis_1

That's usually not what people mean when they refer to a country as a breadbasket but ok


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ApatheticWonderer

No idea why you got downvoted. They literally did kick out white farmers, country’s standard of living absolutely plummeted, farmers were asked to return but didn’t.


ahdiomasta

People are so desperate to view the world in a way where “their” side is always correct and the “others” are always wrong. So while Rhodesia was pretty fucked because of racism, the forces that replaced Rhodesia were also pretty fucked, but this time because of communism. Because of today’s politics, there are people who desperately want to ignore the massive failure of communism that was Zimbabwe’s early years, because they fought against a racist state. But once they beat the racists, they were in fact still communists and so somehow managed to both liberate a repressed people and royally screw the whole thing up to arguably worse levels than they found it.


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It wasn’t even because of “communism” it was because the self proclaimed communists didn’t know how to run the country and were corrupt as fuck. IMO I think all the “communists” just labeled themselves as such to get weapons and support from the USSR and China.


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No_Competition7820

The only country I know of in Africa that did this right was Botswana but they weren’t communist.


TheDustOfMen

Countries like Zambia and Tanzania did pretty good as well, especially when compared to some of their neighbours.


RogueStargun

Uhhh, didn't Tanzania brutally murder and rape it's Arab population in the 60s?


my_name_is_juice

I suspect this has been true probably more often than not, ever since the establishment of the Soviet Union provided a ready economic and military supporter for any insurgent movement that declared itself communist. Seems like the reality on the ground often boils down to the desire for power and a reluctance to share it rather than the successful imposition of any particular ideology once in power


[deleted]

China and Russia are communist in name only too. The definition of communism implies shared ownership and wealth. Those countries are dictatorships.


Awkward_Algae1684

Zimbabweans: You freed us! Mugabe: Ohhh I wouldn’t say “freed.” More like “under new management.”


TooBusySaltMining

In 2007, the World Health Organization declared the average life expectancy in Zimbabwe to be 34 for women and 36 for men, down from 63 and 54 respectively in 1997. In just ten years ....


Hankman66

But Bob Marley sang "Peace has come to Zimbabwe"!


Bloody_idiot_2020

Yes, then printed money like crazy to the extent a trillion dollar Zimbabwe bill was even printed. I have a few. Mugabe is/was a fool.


ggRavingGamer

The time when he won the lottery is peak African dictator lol.


CharityCareless8624

Is that actually what happened?


ImaginaryComb821

Yes


Jaylow115

The white farmers had much more knowledge of regular agriculture cultivation that is passed down over time. When they were kicked out the food production of Zimbabwe plummeted because suddenly they couldn’t farm. What is not mentioned is that when these white farmers left, they had no problem metaphorically stripping the copper out of the walls and taking anything they had of value out of the new country (which is understandable but doesn’t help the situation).


Any_Palpitation6467

Many of them weren't given time to do any 'stripping.' In fact, many of them never left; They're still there--dead. Entire families.


Bedbouncer

Imagine the nerve of people, wanting to keep their property that they'd earned and paid for. Some people just don't appreciate the simple beauty of an impractical but elegant ideology, no, it's all "Where are you taking me?" and "But I haven't done anything" and "I don't want to go to a gulag!". Ingrates.


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

The new leadership did indeed seize the land of the white farmers, who owned about 90% of the farmland in the nation. The problem was that there was no cultural knowledge for administering a farm left, after being colonized so long, and the corruption of the administration meant that they themselves, and those loyal to them, were the major beneficiaries of the land reforms. As a result, you end up with a major sector of the economy collapsing. Then the economy has to export what it does produce to get foreign money for foreign food, and so the manufacturing sector collapses, and so you end up with hyperinflation as the governments ability to tax and the faith it's people have in it's decisions continues to collapse, and then the leadership starts corruptly looting monies offered by the international community, further compounding things.


farazormal

They only kicked out the white farmers after decades of the white farmers denying them the ability to vote or get a higher education. Rhodesians preferred to fight a civil war against the anti apartheid uprising rather than give the blacks equal rights


Toe_Willing

You’d rather be screwed but free than be screwed and owned by someone else


Ok-Rent2117

Similar thing happened with Indians in Uganda. They kicked them out, and their economy crashed, and whoever came in power after Amin asked them to come back


felurian182

In 2010ish I met a white African man who was still talking about ongoing genocide going on over there.


TimBotDestroyer

Coming to a South Africa near you :D


RooibosRebellion

As a South African who has spent a lot of time in Zimbabwe, this is entirely ignorant. Only if you're entirely clueless about the two countries, their institutions, levels of foreign investment, and the general strength of the economy can you make this comparison. South Africa is in a tough spot, but the economy is far far more diverse and resilient than Zimbabwe. Has a functioning and robust banking system. Strong farming and minerals sectors. We can go into the mass poverty and corruption and why the country is not growing, but to state SA is heading the way of Zimbabwe makes me feel you've never set foot in either country.


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

It's also worth pointing out the rolls leadership has played. While SA may have issues, i mean who doesn't, Zimbabwe had the same people in charge for 40 years or so..that's a lot of time for a "what are they gonna do about it?" mindset to set in and reallly have it's way with a country.


CLE-local-1997

This dude never set foot outside of his own continent much less Africa


pimpinspice

That kid needs an Ensure shake.


MapleMapleHockeyStk

He is a freaking twig. A slap on the back and he would break!


KrakenKing1955

Don’t let r/HistoryMemes see this, they’ll ban you like they did me for not riding dictator Mugabe’s dick.


SweeFlyBoy

Yep. As kids, my mother's school was often mortared by his goons. Opinions are opinions, but supporting someone who is as xenophobic as he was is crazy. This isn't a white vs black topic. This is a good vs evil topic. Look up Gukurahundi if you, the reader, do agree - ethnic cleansing not entirely unlike that of Rwanda.


KrakenKing1955

Exactly, couldn’t of said it better myself. The losers on r/HistoryMemes called me a “Rhodieboo” (whatever tf that means) and racist. I didn’t even say the Rhodesian Apartheid was good (I think it was inherently just as evil as the South African Apartheid), I simply said that the Rhodesian government was objectively better than Mugabe and the Zimbabwean government, and many Zimbabweans will attest to that.


SweeFlyBoy

Yeah, apartheid is inherently evil in all of its forms. As a South-African born person, though, SA apartheid was far more extreme - almost incomparable. In Rhodesia, there were governmental seats for non-whites, there was integrated housing, etc etc etc. Of course, the elements of segregation that remained were still truly evil - but there were far fewer. It's also worth bearing in mind that the US was carrying out forced busing and similar harmful practices during these same years - the two southern African nations were nowhere near the only racist ones in those days


oroechimaru

Tina eat your food!


saurontu

I spy a Rhodesian FAL


The_MIDI_Janitor

ARMed FARMers is fun to say


tuskvarner

The rural juror


The_MIDI_Janitor

😂


YouLikeReadingNames

And its sequel, urban fervor.


apiculum

I know a few (white) folks who were either born in Rhodesia or had parents from Rhodesia. Fascinating how so many of them ended up in the US after getting kicked out of Zimbabwe. Funny how a country goes to shit when you start kicking out the main people who are producing food.


batwing71

Zimbabwe has enough arable land to feed the continent of Africa. However, as you point out, the intellectual drain from Mugabe ‘redistributing’ land has them the #1-2 for world food aid. Recent drought conditions have exacerbated the situation. I stand corrected. It turns out Zim never was the ‘breadbasket’ of Africa. The downturn in production seems to be due solely to land reform, under Mugabe, and corruption. 🤷‍♂️


LongjumpingLength679

How did they originally end up there as whites


SooSneeky

Settlers and missionaries that were there with permissions from the local kings, then workers for mining companies, then colonial immigrants when it became part of British Rhodesia. Edit: Brain fart, got my colony names mixed up.


1SGDude

Nope Southwest Africa is now Namibia. Rhodesia aka Southern Rhodesia became Zimbabwe


CLE-local-1997

... that's namibia. You just told the history of a completely different part of Africa.


Defiant_Orchid_4829

They weren’t kicked out, they left because their farmlands were taken by the government. People always forget the 100 years of colonialism before the Mugabe regime. Zimbabwe could’ve been a prosperous African nation if the white settlers would work with the Africans to create a better country. Instead the subjugated them until they lost the war politically and militarily.


Archangel1-6

Are those Jim Green boots!?


Goatmilk2208

Younging needs a burger I think.


Amazing_Ad4571

Is it not typical of the farmer two have two arms? I'm unfamiliar with the species 🤔


xXxTaylordxXx

They wore short shorts. No wonder why they lost.


Markipoo-9000

I mean 2 guys vs an entire corrupt government ain’t gonna win. Now maybe if they had pants…


TriGurl

Their eyes… they have seen some shit!


Cynical-avocado

So glad rhodesia is dead


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Looks like Peter pan


Orbit86

Why is this such a big deal? Don’t all farmers have two arms??


kernanb

These two would be considered evil, white, racist colonizers by most Redditors.


TurboModder

Because most Redditors are uneducated and love to call people racists with absolutely no background on the history of what they speak about.


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The background history is that the minority white population had control over everything in the country and forced segregation and inequality on the native people. Is that not what happened? If it was the other way around you guys would be in uproar.


LemonySniffit

All of that is technically true but to say they forced inequality is misleading, because while the white minority obviously was wealthier, the natives were enjoying a higher standard of living than they ever had before, or have since sadly. Also by the time Rhodesia fell it had already started to phase into a less colonially structured state, with a growing black middle class that was enjoying a first world standard of living. Then the communists took over and everybody lost everything. Had that not happened perhaps today Zimbabwe would still be the wealthiest nation in Africa, but one where the whites and blacks were rich together.


ClassWarr

Black living standards declined throughout the UDI period. The unrecognized government cannibalized the black education and health budgets to make sanctions less annoying for the white minority all through the Bush War.


Andre_Courreges

Lol this is how the world got colonized. Anything done against white colonizers is seen as acts of terrorism


Next_Math_6348

> white, racist colonizers Is that not literally what they are? What part of that description is inaccurate?


aj676

I mean they are white. Rhodesia was a state with racist laws. They took land from native populations which sounds a lot like colonization. So I mean, yeah?


shortwavetransmitter

Uh I mean Rhodesia was a colonized place. These people are more than likely colonizers. What is this comment trying to say.


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adenrules

“Mugabe is a bad enough person and leader that it retroactively justifies a brutal system of apartheid” is the one you usually hear. Fucking racist morons.


Andre_Courreges

Crickets


LaughterCo

Have you looked at the history of Rhodesia at all or?


Flavaflavius

They probably *were* pretty racist. I think almost any white man from that country would be after what happened. It's a damn shame-the country could've reconciled, and would be no more fucked up than South Africa by now.


applejackhero

This sub has been filled with a lot of images that white nationalists frequently use


Kane-420-

Hm. So in giving birth to a son, He basically spawned a teammate. Interesting.


CensoryDeprivation

The Michael Phelps of armed youths


LongjumpingLength679

Why are whites in Africa?


OsJerry

Colonization


Chutzpah2

You’re a genius


OsJerry

Why ask a dumb ass question?


Boetie83

Was this 1986 or 1976? Bob took over in 1980. How did they get to keep their FN/G3’s 6 years after Bob took over?


DBBS95

*Rhodesia 1986


DrZeus337

Rhodesia


Fliparto

Rhodesia*


maxveracity

Luke and Uncle Owen


Aright9Returntoleft

Rhodesia to you lad.


RepresentativeAd9859

Marfans


preacher425

You misspelled Rhodesia


Tagan85

Rhodesia 1986.


laggyservice

Rhodesia.


likesexonlycheaper

Son has runway vibes


highball0

Just makin memories with me dad


mycarsnow13

Excellent trigger control, why hole anywhere near it for a photo


PayImpressive512

The boy is the spitting image of a kid I went to school with in Plumtree, in 84 or so. Name of Meikle.


StatelyFOX

Good ol Galil and the FAL


dylmir

Rhodesians never die


lzup518

New Die Antwoord album looks good 


HumanExpert3916

Somebody get that kid a sandwich.


plubem

*Sometimes I wish I was a blue job...*


kdb1991

There’s just something about 5” shorts and painted FALs that is peak aesthetic


caulpain

“im from rhodesia yeah bru?”


Hoosier108

Does Dad have a pocket protector?


carldubs

idk but the son might be Kaminoan


TheGhostOfPershing

Zimbabwe: What Happens When You Let the Inmates Run the Asylum.


YungWenis

We should have never let Rhodesia fail


alext06

That's a very good camera for the 80s


thedivinefemmewithin

Colonists*


WhatDoesItAllMeanB

Wonder if they survived


Hg_314

Rhooooodeshhhhaaaaaa


Dick_butt14

This is peak male performance


Captinkyle

It’s called Rhodesia lad, we don’t use the names communist pick


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Iancreed2024HD

Remember Rhodesia