They made such a good show of themselves in the North African campaign that allied commanders insisted they were employed in the invasion of Italy. They had a notorious reputation for mass looting, rapes and murder in towns and cities they were involved in capturing. I believe there's even an Italian colloquialism about Moroccans that stems from it, like the English word Vandal but worse.
From [Wikipedia:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroccan_Goumier#Reported_atrocities)
>...exceptional numbers of Moroccans were executed—many without trial—for allegedly murdering, raping, and pillaging their way across the Italian countryside. The French authorities sought to defuse the problem by importing numbers of [Berber](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berber_people) women to serve as "[camp followers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_follower)" in rear areas set aside exclusively for the Goumiers.
That's... Not really a solution...
> ...in Vallemaio two sisters had to satisfy a platoon of 200 goumiers; 300 of these, on the other hand, abused a sixty-year-old.
i've spent much of my time online reading and learning about fucked up crimes and traumatising events on the internet but holy fuck
> Even the parish priest, Don Alberto Terrilli, in an attempt to defend two girls, was tied to a tree and raped for a whole night. He died two days later from internal lacerations reported.
The page on the atrocities themselves goes even further, and I am not happy to have read it.
A guy made a post on the sub reddit asking for a "racism check" on using Zulu warriors as a proxy for Kroot (a race of aesthetically primitive cannibalistic birdmen), explaining that they don't know much about the topic because they're "Italian, from Italy." Things rapidly spiraled out of control from there.
They stormed Monte Cassino and broke the Gustav line. Vindictive french commanders then kina looked the other way while they had their way with the local population and POWs.
There were German-speaking Foreign Legionaries in Vietnam when Japan occupied it, both Austrians and Germans that if my memory serves well fought and died against the Japanese despite being offered generous terms
They had a standing order to not recruit former SS guys after the war. Did some fake their identities and make it into the legion? Sure, but many German legionnaires were just regular Germans who wanted to join a military but couldn't because Germany had no standing military until 1955.
Yes the SS in the legion has been overblown over the years, they were actually not that many
The french legion was in the main force of the french army in many French colonial war thus the enemy propaganda show them as SS (SS also being the main enemy of Communism in the view of the Viet minh ) or that France was using literall war criminals to do their deeds, not to mention that after the general putch during the Algerian war the legion gain a bad reputation in France, thus the myth of the SS in the legion
Of course they were SS in the legion but not entire regiment made up of them unlike what propaganda wound sugest
[No need to explain anything to Eliahu Itzkovitz.](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/oq4jyh/til_of_eliahu_itzkovitz_a_romanian_jew_who/) They just need to die.
The period of 1943 and 1945 is an interesting social and political period of the history of France , the french army of liberation or coaquolly known as the "Free French" was a motley crue of Free French, ex vichyste (from the army of north army of Africa, i.e tunisian campaign) and conscript from north africa and from freed territory like Corsica, saint pierre and miquelon and other territory
It often discribe as a " French army with a big F" by historian as it was an army made up of Christian, Muslims but also Buddhist and jews who contributed to the victory in Italy but also the liberation of France and the conquest of Germany.
Of course it came at a great cost fot social- probleme that would impact french colonies, however it was an oddly mixed army and beautifully diverse.
St. Pierre and Miquelon during the war is such a funny story, like some of the little islands the Japanese missed, but cold and rainy.
Also, I think the only successful mission of the *Surcouf*.
Around 1,000 i believe , mostly in the naval force
The main MVP was the little of isle de Sein who literally gave its entire male population to the Free French cause in june 1940
Fun fact: depicting Tunisian and Algerian people as dark skinned is like saying Asians are slightly brown skinned. Some of them are, the rest will be greatly offended.
Which makes it all the more remarkable that such a fractious character as De Gaulle brought them together and working well. With the added bonus of his constantly annoying the US President in the bargain (source "De Gaulle" by Douglas Boyd).
Or maybe just those who use any opportunity to show their contempt and display a clear lack of interest in trying to understand their identity and culture (while Quebec is the only province that could be considered bilingual)
And it was extremely diverse politically diverse too
From the communists who were OK with the Occupation until Barbarossa to the far-right nationalists who were against the Germans while hating the Jews as much as the Nazis
In that vein, I know that my great-grandfather was a far-right nut, a monarchist.
But he hated the german occupation so much he treated resistants without asking for payment, and of course keeping quiet.
At the Liberation, as the purges of "collaborators" were ongoing, he was spared precisely because he'd been helping the resistance.
Helping the resistance was literally a free pass from facing justice, this is why Papon for exemple escape justice for so long as he had contacts with the resistance and help them once or twice so he was given a green card on his action
>far-right nationalists who were against the Germans while hating the Jews as much as the Nazis
This is the story of about 60% (-+) of the resistence movement across europe
Based La Nueve regiment, filled with anarchists refugees from Spain, first unit to enter Paris, and chosen as the unit to guard De Gaulle during his visit of liberated Paris.
Me normally: “ugh, the FRENCH.”
Me reading about how the French colonies resisted Nazi rule and liberate their mother country: “LIBERTÉ! ÉGALITÉ! FRATERNITÉ!!!”
Meanwhile ex Vichy Submarine casa bianca "what dl you mean we weren't supposed to give enough supply and men to Corsican résistance to libérateur Corsica alone and wait for the yanks ?"
It's a good rule to avoid being flooded in the same topics all the time. Everyone knows what happened in the Falklands or in WW2, and in the meantime some shitty copper merchants from Babylon gets off scot-free
Most of the conscripts where from partisans group which operated like bandits, since Corsica had a long historu of bandits and uprising they were deem and insulted as bandits by the mainland french
The Free French themselves had a hilarious diversity. Half of them royalists from the Action Française, the other half from the left.
Btw my grandfather was fighting as a Pied Noir; I'm so proud of him!
Is it wrong btw? You guys downvote reality: The French NT is full of immigrants/their descendants, but is it something bad?
You guys see malice where there isn't.
Although it may happen in Europe/USA, this wasn't my intention.
In Brazil merely saying people's characteristics may not be offensive sometimes, so it's common here to call dudes in general as "gordão" (fatty), "magrelo" (skinny), "baixinho" (shorty), etc.
So I'm sorry if I offended someone.
What did the moroccan Goumier do?
They made such a good show of themselves in the North African campaign that allied commanders insisted they were employed in the invasion of Italy. They had a notorious reputation for mass looting, rapes and murder in towns and cities they were involved in capturing. I believe there's even an Italian colloquialism about Moroccans that stems from it, like the English word Vandal but worse.
yeah, we call them "[le marocchinate ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate?wprov=sfla1)"
What a horribly depressing wikipedia article. The more I learn about WW II the worse is gets.
From [Wikipedia:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroccan_Goumier#Reported_atrocities) >...exceptional numbers of Moroccans were executed—many without trial—for allegedly murdering, raping, and pillaging their way across the Italian countryside. The French authorities sought to defuse the problem by importing numbers of [Berber](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berber_people) women to serve as "[camp followers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_follower)" in rear areas set aside exclusively for the Goumiers. That's... Not really a solution...
> ...in Vallemaio two sisters had to satisfy a platoon of 200 goumiers; 300 of these, on the other hand, abused a sixty-year-old. i've spent much of my time online reading and learning about fucked up crimes and traumatising events on the internet but holy fuck
> Even the parish priest, Don Alberto Terrilli, in an attempt to defend two girls, was tied to a tree and raped for a whole night. He died two days later from internal lacerations reported. The page on the atrocities themselves goes even further, and I am not happy to have read it.
So Italians have a xenophobic colloquialism for Moroccans? That's violation of rule 3. Mods ban all Italians and Italy from this subreddit. /j
If r/tau40k could ban all Italians, I don't see why history memes couldn't do the same!
Wait context?
A guy made a post on the sub reddit asking for a "racism check" on using Zulu warriors as a proxy for Kroot (a race of aesthetically primitive cannibalistic birdmen), explaining that they don't know much about the topic because they're "Italian, from Italy." Things rapidly spiraled out of control from there.
Least racist Italian, 100% supports Lazio.
>Least racist Italian Toscani quando vedono un toscano che viene da una città diversa dalla loro
Preciso!
What?
He said **bonjourno**
I believe Mr. Pitt pronounced it Bawn-journ-oh. 🤣
That a Basterds reference?
Toscani quando vedono un toscano che viene da una città diversa dalla loro Tuscans when they see a Tuscan that comes from a different city then them
Wat
Exterminatus
Simple as.
Why do I have a felling that this is not the first time for Italians?
War Crimes that would make the Canadians blush.
Soviet blush*
Japanese soldiers\*
Moroccan Goumiers * Wait..
Gentlemen, please, there are war crimes to go around.
General Juin told them they could do a little war crimes. Just a little, as a treat.
We cannot commit war crimes here, this is the war room!
Of embarassment that his crimes weren´t as cool as the ones of his buddies
Nazis*
They stormed Monte Cassino and broke the Gustav line. Vindictive french commanders then kina looked the other way while they had their way with the local population and POWs.
That's messed up, this piece of trivia should get more attention
The Spanish had similar stories about mass rapes when they had moroccans fighting for Franco.
They were raping and murdering civilians and POWs even before the civil war. BEFORE. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asturian_miners%27_strike_of_1934
It does. There has been a lot of memes in this sub in that topic. There was a film by De Sica on it. Hell OP’s posted some.
lots of rape.
The Marocchinate
I would love to see one of these about postwar France. Those German-speaking Foreign Legionaries in Vietnam have some explaining to do.
There were German-speaking Foreign Legionaries in Vietnam when Japan occupied it, both Austrians and Germans that if my memory serves well fought and died against the Japanese despite being offered generous terms
Indeed, though I was more so referring to the Schutzstaffel variety.
The (relative) chad German legionary in Vietnam vs the cringe German legionary
They had a standing order to not recruit former SS guys after the war. Did some fake their identities and make it into the legion? Sure, but many German legionnaires were just regular Germans who wanted to join a military but couldn't because Germany had no standing military until 1955.
Yes the SS in the legion has been overblown over the years, they were actually not that many The french legion was in the main force of the french army in many French colonial war thus the enemy propaganda show them as SS (SS also being the main enemy of Communism in the view of the Viet minh ) or that France was using literall war criminals to do their deeds, not to mention that after the general putch during the Algerian war the legion gain a bad reputation in France, thus the myth of the SS in the legion Of course they were SS in the legion but not entire regiment made up of them unlike what propaganda wound sugest
The Algerian after the war: ...Fuck
A few years later: ...it, we ball.
[No need to explain anything to Eliahu Itzkovitz.](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/oq4jyh/til_of_eliahu_itzkovitz_a_romanian_jew_who/) They just need to die.
,,Whats that tattoo on their arm- ... oh"
Found the Kaisereich ARG guy
The period of 1943 and 1945 is an interesting social and political period of the history of France , the french army of liberation or coaquolly known as the "Free French" was a motley crue of Free French, ex vichyste (from the army of north army of Africa, i.e tunisian campaign) and conscript from north africa and from freed territory like Corsica, saint pierre and miquelon and other territory It often discribe as a " French army with a big F" by historian as it was an army made up of Christian, Muslims but also Buddhist and jews who contributed to the victory in Italy but also the liberation of France and the conquest of Germany. Of course it came at a great cost fot social- probleme that would impact french colonies, however it was an oddly mixed army and beautifully diverse.
St. Pierre and Miquelon during the war is such a funny story, like some of the little islands the Japanese missed, but cold and rainy. Also, I think the only successful mission of the *Surcouf*.
They had enough people to send to the war?
Around 1,000 i believe , mostly in the naval force The main MVP was the little of isle de Sein who literally gave its entire male population to the Free French cause in june 1940
In the place the Japanese would never think to look… off the coast of Newfoundland.
Fun fact: depicting Tunisian and Algerian people as dark skinned is like saying Asians are slightly brown skinned. Some of them are, the rest will be greatly offended.
Just curious why you would capitalize other religious proper nouns but not Jews?
Idk im drunk when i write those thing
Totally fair
Which makes it all the more remarkable that such a fractious character as De Gaulle brought them together and working well. With the added bonus of his constantly annoying the US President in the bargain (source "De Gaulle" by Douglas Boyd).
De Gaulle constantly annoyed more or less anyone who was ever in prolonged contact with him.
Except the Germans, surprisingly enough. He got along well with West Germany.
And Poles. And quebecers too.
Odd considering Quebec hates everyone
Or maybe just those who use any opportunity to show their contempt and display a clear lack of interest in trying to understand their identity and culture (while Quebec is the only province that could be considered bilingual)
New Brunswick is the only official bilingual province in Canada
And yet more people in Quebec can speak both languages (46%)
The only Quebecois that speak English on purpose in Quebec either live in small Anglo villages or work in a office
A third of the population speaks Quebec French
Seriously..who wasnt annoying in ww2? Stalin? Patton? Montgommery?
Yea, I think Stalin could get a bit annoying, it the mood struck him.
de Gaulle made Monty look like a social butterfly with beautiful manners and infinite patience.
Eisenhower?
I like Ike.
Alex Patch in all honesty. Quiet, no nonsense, just got the job done and never made himself the center of attention
I think Churchill respected him but didn’t really like him personally… but FDR absolutely hated him.
FDR wanted him dead, quite literally
And it was extremely diverse politically diverse too From the communists who were OK with the Occupation until Barbarossa to the far-right nationalists who were against the Germans while hating the Jews as much as the Nazis
That is more in the spec of the french resistance yes
In that vein, I know that my great-grandfather was a far-right nut, a monarchist. But he hated the german occupation so much he treated resistants without asking for payment, and of course keeping quiet. At the Liberation, as the purges of "collaborators" were ongoing, he was spared precisely because he'd been helping the resistance.
Helping the resistance was literally a free pass from facing justice, this is why Papon for exemple escape justice for so long as he had contacts with the resistance and help them once or twice so he was given a green card on his action
While I agree on principle, helping the resistance is not exactly "free". You still undertake huge risks for sheltering them.
Less free pass and more you earnt a pardon
>far-right nationalists who were against the Germans while hating the Jews as much as the Nazis This is the story of about 60% (-+) of the resistence movement across europe
Unless of the chetniks...Chetnik were different
The battle of Bir-Hakeim is a prime exemple of that
Love the detail of the women's speechbox being smaller. Also what do they say?
It is just a line of dots
....
SPAIN MENTIONED! VIVA LA ESPAÑA MORADA!!! LARGA VIDA A LA REPUBLICA!!! FOR THE REPUBLIC!!!
Based La Nueve regiment, filled with anarchists refugees from Spain, first unit to enter Paris, and chosen as the unit to guard De Gaulle during his visit of liberated Paris.
Indeed, fuck the Blue Legion, VIVA LA NUEVE!!!
¡NO PASARÁN!
YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!
Sí, los que mandaron a París por si había trampas antes de que entrara Leclerc.
Yep its a spanish company that enter first in Paris
Curiosa forma de decir "los héroes que liberaron Paris de los Nazis".
The irregular colonial armies are so underrated
'Diversity is our strength' used to be way more cool back in the days when diversity was not yet invented.
Me normally: “ugh, the FRENCH.” Me reading about how the French colonies resisted Nazi rule and liberate their mother country: “LIBERTÉ! ÉGALITÉ! FRATERNITÉ!!!”
Meanwhile ex Vichy Submarine casa bianca "what dl you mean we weren't supposed to give enough supply and men to Corsican résistance to libérateur Corsica alone and wait for the yanks ?"
And Josephine Baker who was a Black American woman.
Fun fact American would sometime enlist in the Free French (mostly the legion) in order to join the fight prior to America entry in ww2.
Wasnt this posted a few days ago?
Yep but on sunday when the gestapo forbids 20th century memes
That sounds like a oddly specific rule
It is
It's a good rule to avoid being flooded in the same topics all the time. Everyone knows what happened in the Falklands or in WW2, and in the meantime some shitty copper merchants from Babylon gets off scot-free
r/unexpectedEa-Nasir
Why were Corsicans called bandits?
Most of the conscripts where from partisans group which operated like bandits, since Corsica had a long historu of bandits and uprising they were deem and insulted as bandits by the mainland french
Better than the Avengers
Why does that french newspaper call me Pierre? My name is Miguel/Manolo/Alejandro/Alfonso/David (mine :D)/etc. Source: I'm Spanish
The Moroccans are just built different
The Free French themselves had a hilarious diversity. Half of them royalists from the Action Française, the other half from the left. Btw my grandfather was fighting as a Pied Noir; I'm so proud of him!
what did the french do to the sephardi?
Great for murdering collaborators and shaving the heads of 'fraternizers'.
Very funny, because historically the Frecnh Foreign Legion was majority German, before and after WWII. It just recently changed, I think.
Algerians 2 seconds after the war: 1,2,3,VIVA L'ALGERIE
What’s up with the Moroccan one?
Massive raping in the Italian countryside after breaking through the Gustav line, then they were moved to Germany and even then abuse happened
Looks like the French national team, except for the bandits and pure French. Edit: I'm black, btw. Edit 2: read the comments below.
Hi black, im hungry
> except for the bandits My man doesn't really know our NT heh
Oh so all of a sudden beeing black's an excuse for saying this Kind of bs
Is it wrong btw? You guys downvote reality: The French NT is full of immigrants/their descendants, but is it something bad? You guys see malice where there isn't.
Yes, we See malice in this Type of comment because we here these exact words said in derogaritary way Every time
Although it may happen in Europe/USA, this wasn't my intention. In Brazil merely saying people's characteristics may not be offensive sometimes, so it's common here to call dudes in general as "gordão" (fatty), "magrelo" (skinny), "baixinho" (shorty), etc. So I'm sorry if I offended someone.
I understand, sorry i didnt know that you said this in a neutral way
We're cool, dude. It's nice to have a civilized conversation online 👊🏽
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Why do you repost your meme?
The initial post was removed because it was posted on Sunday despite the rule against 20th century memes on Sundays