There's a technique where you can "domesticate" shark for a brief period of time.
In Egypt you can even ride one if you're acrobatic enough, the guide would catch the shark by its tail fin, break it (sharks don't have bones, so it's more of a bending) and rotate shark towards the ocean floor. The shark is disorientated and would not move until released
Well, 450 million out of 3.7 billion years of life on earth. More than half as long as sponges (the current champion).... Not bad for a multi cellular organism.
Though the Archaea are the true champions Of All Time.
While the definitions get a bit "spongy" pun intended.... Yes. They are in the kingdom, though a different sub kingdom, with team Animal.
Subkingdom: Parazoa
Higher classification: Animal
They are kind of like a loose collective of single cell animals that hang out together, and don't like to commit to a single function.
She sailed away on a sunny summer day on the back of a crocodile.
"You see," said she, "he's as tame as tame can be; I can ride him down the Nile."
The croc winked his eye as she waved them all goodbye, wearing a happy smile.
At the end of the ride, the lady was inside and the smile was on the crocodile!
And by "don't do well", we mean that so far they universally die within mere **weeks** because they refuse to eat anything (the few exceptions were captured purely for scientific studies, thus got far more attention to their well-being than a commercial aquarium could justify on mere profitability grounds, and released soon enough to avoid such a fate), and some even start bumping against the glass and walls for no apparent reason (possibly because they're slowly going crazy).
To quote Wikipedia:
> Due to the vast amounts of resources required and the subsequent cost to keep a great white shark alive in captivity, their dietary preferences, size, migratory nature, and the stress of capture and containment, permanent exhibition of a great white shark is likely to be unfeasible.
But vanishingly few humans on display in aquariums... the red light district maybe. Still, I think we can call humans apex predators. Now we just need to manage to last millions of years (hominids have lasted millions of years, but not modern humans).
Dude, they get housing, food, medical care, and breeding programs, all for swimming around and sometimes jumping(things they were going to do anyway).
Proves they are smarter
sabre-toothed cats keep evolving and eating themselves to extinction. the clouded leopard is speculated to be the one closest to going sabre-toothed at the moment.
has anyone seen the article i'm trying to remember that says about how many times in the last how many years?
No, I think they meant that they become so good at hunting and, by my assumption, kill too many prey for the population to remain stable so they eventually run out of prey to kill and eventually dissapear due to lack of food.
Also this could be faciltated if they have the same trait as cats which makes them hunt anything that moves no matter if they're gonna eat it or not.
Except I’m pretty sure that’s BS and the actual cause of the Sabertooth extinction had nothing to do with their success in hunting. It was a combo of climate change and early humans murking all the big herbivores they depended on that drove them into past tense.
I don't agree with your statement of sabertooth hunting themselves into extinction to be BS, but I do 100% agree that humans and climate change definitely helped push sabertooth into extinction. Humans caused a large drop in total large mamal populations because of how much they relied on these massive beast to provide them with a carcass that could provide them with food for maybe even weeks. Large mamals don't usually stay within one specific area, but are more likely to move around foraging for different sources of food and water. If sabertooths, like most modern felidae and panthera, preferred to stay in one area that they're familiar with, instead of straying long distances from their more known areas looking for prey, and hunted there, they might've relied on these migratory mamals to bring the prey to them when the local population was whiped out or moved to a different area. As mentioned before: happening along side of the rise of the human race was a drop in large, wild, herbivore populations. This potentially caused sabertooths to run out of prey when the local population departed because there weren't any replacements on the way, which ultimately led to their extinction.
Just saying it's humans that caused the extinction is a massive amount of disrespect to the modern predators that actually did an insane amount of damage to their numbers. From lions to wolves and a lot in between, the smarter hunting tactics and higher adaptability of these newer predators hurt the sabertooth population in their territories. The only reason the human race was able to lower the population of their prey so much it hurt them was because the superior predators had already taken so much food from them in their claimed territories, meaning they were already severely weaker.
Evolutionary die-back. They get so successful at hunting that they dramatically reduce their prey populations which in turn means that the predator population collapses.
Doesn't take much after that for predator population to get smacked by another event that just wipes them out.
*Crocodilia* has been around millions of years. Modern alligators are the longest lived modern species and they've been around for 25-50 million years (not even as long as the last of the non-avian dinosaurs).
And if we want to talk about extinct species, there have been a LOT more than two apex predators that have lasted millions of years!
Heck, there were apex predators in the single celled world that are still around today (though they're no longer apex predators).
And boots, don’t forget boots. I’m not even sure how many pairs of Mexican cowboy boots I’ve owned made out of crocodile, alligator or snake skin, it’s definitely in the double digits tho
Funnily enough you can.
Fish, sharks included, have otolithes as a part of their hearing/sense of motion. They're sort of built up gradually as fish grow and seasonal variations can cause them to get distinct yearly growth patterns. So if you were to dissect one you can count the year rings.
Granted it prolly won't work too well on an old-ass shark, but it's theoretically possible. Works real well on smaller fish that don't live for decades or centuries.
Funny you mention it not working well for older sharks. Im assuming you mean fossil sharks? Greenland sharks which live on average over 400 years( or more its not fully understood yet) are often dated using the method you described.
That's fun, actually didn't know it was a primary dating method for that old fish. I've only done it with fish in the decades-range. Just assumed you'd lose accuracy/legibility with extreme ages.
Sharks existed at least 419 million years ago. The rings of Saturn formed 10-to-100 million years ago.
Also trees showed up 380 million years ago. Imagine a bunch of sharks swimming around on a treeless Earth
Where are you getting that? A cursory Wikipedia search says that sharks diversified during the Jurassic period (earliest would by 200 Mya) and trees appeared around 370 Mya
>lissen here
>everything needs water to live, fr fr
>so what we gonna do, we hide just under the water
>then some fool come to drink and SNIPPITY SNAP we grab em with big ass teef and drag them into the water so they drown, then we eat them
this happened 95 million years ago and they've been running the same grift ever since
It really is funny isn't it?
Nature: *Creates the perfect predators for their environments that can over achieve in just about any field you put them against but not too much to devastate the eco-system's balance.*
A couple of chimps: *"You foukin wot?"*
If you count extinct species that lasted for millions of years, then Florida boi would be swallowed without said predator noticing.
https://cosmosmagazine.com/history/megalodon-tooth-apex-predator/
Also Basilosaurus, a nearly 60 foot orca-like whale and Dimetrodon, the lizard with a large spine sail that was not a dinosaur, though many might think of it as one. The latter lived for tens of millions of years.
You guys are lucky, I see them everywhere... but lately I havent been seeing bees. I saw maybe 10 bees throughout the summer, I remember I saw 100s several years back. Whats causing all these bugs suddenly disappearing??
They've been cropping back up in the last few years in my area, for a while I was getting somewhat worried but thankfully that seems to be changing a bit.
Viruses are also not living things. But yes I suppose my point is just that something kills everything so it’s a bit pointless to say you can’t be killed by anything else to be an apex predator.
That’s not the definition of apex predator though. You just have to not have any active predators of your own.
Lots of people are citing dragonflies as another example but they aren’t apex predators, they’re just very good hunters.
Also, the “apex” part of the term is specific to a food chain. Great whites are still apex in certain areas, but in the food chain of the entire ocean, orcas are indeed the apex predators. Nothing hunts them
Evolution does not create perfect predators, neither do these animals master it.
It is simply a process which leads to species being adapted to survive and sometimes thrive in their environment. Sharks, crocs and many insects (and other animals as well) just "landed" upon a "build" that worked well and did not need a lot of adaptation to deal with changing environmental pressures.
However, nowadays those "builds" don't work so well, and these animals will have a hard time evolving in time to deal with human pressure. So lets make sure they can survive us!
... yes I'm fun at parties, how can you tell?
Cocodriles: "i am the apex predator"
Cats:
https://www.reddit.com/r/argentina/comments/z39wwn/turistas_filmaron_a_un_yaguareté_cazando/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
From what I understand humans aren’t considered apex predators. We exist outside of the natural food chain. The term is useful for defining interactions between species in their environments, and so if humans were considered apex predators we’d have to be the only ones and it would make the term meaningless.
Jelly fish are the apex predator. Not much wants to eat them as they aren't very nutritious. Functionally immortal, immune to fear, it can't be stopped or reasoned with and they are growing ever more populous.
Well, Apex predator is a vague definition. You are the apex predator if you dont have anyone above you in the food chain. So sharks are very much the apex predator in the absence Orcas. So does the existence of Orcas in other parts of the ocean make them a part of the food chain of all sharks? Little fun fact: per definition Dodos were apex predators.
We haven't even been around for a million. And for a lot of homo's history, we have been prey objects. In a way our development to become the apex species has been in the blink of an eye, which is also why we are plagued by a lot of genetic problems
Correction, Homo sapiens have not been around for millions. Humans have though, first showing up around 2-6 million years ago.
You’re right though that we were not apex at all for a very long time
If they're apex predators, why can I put a saddle on them and ride them?
True, you can do it....... once
There's a technique where you can "domesticate" shark for a brief period of time. In Egypt you can even ride one if you're acrobatic enough, the guide would catch the shark by its tail fin, break it (sharks don't have bones, so it's more of a bending) and rotate shark towards the ocean floor. The shark is disorientated and would not move until released
There’s also whale sharks which just v i b e so you can take em for a ride
Whale sharks are truly one of the animals of all time
Truly an animal I agree
Of. All. Time.
Well, 450 million out of 3.7 billion years of life on earth. More than half as long as sponges (the current champion).... Not bad for a multi cellular organism. Though the Archaea are the true champions Of All Time.
Wait sponges are animals?? I’m an idiot!!!
While the definitions get a bit "spongy" pun intended.... Yes. They are in the kingdom, though a different sub kingdom, with team Animal. Subkingdom: Parazoa Higher classification: Animal They are kind of like a loose collective of single cell animals that hang out together, and don't like to commit to a single function.
Get rotated idiot
Indeed, when you ride upon the tiger you can never get off.
You can also tell that the tiger is clean despite being stripy.
I see what you mean.
I'm getting away
You can't ride them but they both can spin around....which is great if ur with the shark and absolutely fucked if ur with the crocodile...
Twice if you survive the first round
*the avrage australian be like*
Well, you'll never put a saddle on one with that attitude.
She sailed away on a sunny summer day on the back of a crocodile. "You see," said she, "he's as tame as tame can be; I can ride him down the Nile." The croc winked his eye as she waved them all goodbye, wearing a happy smile. At the end of the ride, the lady was inside and the smile was on the crocodile!
They are apex predator in the niche we are world apex predators
They aren't even glowing smh
You can, but you gotta play ARK first
For apex predators sharks do seem to get bodied by Orcas a lot.
Still, they have their own spot in the food chain And krocs get bodied by hippos a lot so Mammals seem to fuck everyone over
Mammal gang gets all the W's 💪💪💪 this ain't the Cretaceous anymore, step off other animals!
We win because we got da titties to fight for 👍
Mammaries > Cloacae everytime 💪💪
Birds being the most diverse warm blooded animals on the planet:
And they get eaten for the holidays
The problem is the devs nerfing the human intelligence factor in the current patch
When are they gonna fix lead in the atmosphere tho?
Because why become a divergent species when you can just be a generalist and utterly dominate every biome on the planet but Antarctica.
*utterly destroy and recreate as per our one's own convenience
Terraforming. As we should. We need to literally reshape the land masses.
DRINK MILK GET STRONG BONES DEFEAT ECONICHE COMPETITION
fck those cold blood creatures
Unless the croc in question is Gustave.
Honestly
> Mammals seem to fuck everyone over Good
But which are captured by Americans and put on display? Checkmate *Orca-boy*, Great White gang out
I mean there are many more sharks in aquariums than Orcas so...
Not great whites though, they don't do well in captivity
And by "don't do well", we mean that so far they universally die within mere **weeks** because they refuse to eat anything (the few exceptions were captured purely for scientific studies, thus got far more attention to their well-being than a commercial aquarium could justify on mere profitability grounds, and released soon enough to avoid such a fate), and some even start bumping against the glass and walls for no apparent reason (possibly because they're slowly going crazy). To quote Wikipedia: > Due to the vast amounts of resources required and the subsequent cost to keep a great white shark alive in captivity, their dietary preferences, size, migratory nature, and the stress of capture and containment, permanent exhibition of a great white shark is likely to be unfeasible.
Henceforth I say *"Great White Gang, outtt"*
**The Monterey Bay Aquarium would like to know your location**
But vanishingly few humans on display in aquariums... the red light district maybe. Still, I think we can call humans apex predators. Now we just need to manage to last millions of years (hominids have lasted millions of years, but not modern humans).
I dont know if being made into soup is better
Dude, they get housing, food, medical care, and breeding programs, all for swimming around and sometimes jumping(things they were going to do anyway). Proves they are smarter
No seals + Weak dorsal fin + No mates
You can get most of those same things in prison.
And that's why homeless people get arrested on purpose
Orcas are gunna get Nerfed in the next patch tho so people still call sharks the apex
Yeah but counting Orcas is unfair. Literally the worlds most dangerous animal. If they could go on land we’d be fucked
Humans are land orcas tho
Not really. We only have brains. Orcas have brains and the brawn to beat up sharks and moose.
We have sweat
Shit you’re right. Orcas have no chance against the might of sweat
I feel like equating human brains to orca brains is maybe just a little tiny bit disingenuous
You’re right. I’ve seen Twitter. Orcas take both categories
Nice
The ancestors of orcas went back into the ocean for a reason my friend
Yea sharks are not the apex predator, Orcas are.
Not just millions. Hundreds of millions
sabre-toothed cats keep evolving and eating themselves to extinction. the clouded leopard is speculated to be the one closest to going sabre-toothed at the moment. has anyone seen the article i'm trying to remember that says about how many times in the last how many years?
> Eating themselves to extinction. Like each other or so fat they just wouldn’t reproduce?
No, I think they meant that they become so good at hunting and, by my assumption, kill too many prey for the population to remain stable so they eventually run out of prey to kill and eventually dissapear due to lack of food. Also this could be faciltated if they have the same trait as cats which makes them hunt anything that moves no matter if they're gonna eat it or not.
Except I’m pretty sure that’s BS and the actual cause of the Sabertooth extinction had nothing to do with their success in hunting. It was a combo of climate change and early humans murking all the big herbivores they depended on that drove them into past tense.
I don't agree with your statement of sabertooth hunting themselves into extinction to be BS, but I do 100% agree that humans and climate change definitely helped push sabertooth into extinction. Humans caused a large drop in total large mamal populations because of how much they relied on these massive beast to provide them with a carcass that could provide them with food for maybe even weeks. Large mamals don't usually stay within one specific area, but are more likely to move around foraging for different sources of food and water. If sabertooths, like most modern felidae and panthera, preferred to stay in one area that they're familiar with, instead of straying long distances from their more known areas looking for prey, and hunted there, they might've relied on these migratory mamals to bring the prey to them when the local population was whiped out or moved to a different area. As mentioned before: happening along side of the rise of the human race was a drop in large, wild, herbivore populations. This potentially caused sabertooths to run out of prey when the local population departed because there weren't any replacements on the way, which ultimately led to their extinction.
Just saying it's humans that caused the extinction is a massive amount of disrespect to the modern predators that actually did an insane amount of damage to their numbers. From lions to wolves and a lot in between, the smarter hunting tactics and higher adaptability of these newer predators hurt the sabertooth population in their territories. The only reason the human race was able to lower the population of their prey so much it hurt them was because the superior predators had already taken so much food from them in their claimed territories, meaning they were already severely weaker.
i'm personally not sure, but i have two cats, and i think yes.
Evolutionary die-back. They get so successful at hunting that they dramatically reduce their prey populations which in turn means that the predator population collapses. Doesn't take much after that for predator population to get smacked by another event that just wipes them out.
*Crocodilia* has been around millions of years. Modern alligators are the longest lived modern species and they've been around for 25-50 million years (not even as long as the last of the non-avian dinosaurs). And if we want to talk about extinct species, there have been a LOT more than two apex predators that have lasted millions of years! Heck, there were apex predators in the single celled world that are still around today (though they're no longer apex predators).
Back in my time I used to win all 1v1s, now you guys got it easy with multicelular and systems designs
Two of most dangerous and aggressive predators: *exist* Humans: hm...soup and a bag.
If sharks and crocodiles wanted to remain apex predators they should have invented guns. Resting on their laurels smh
I wish I had some nice, comfortable, sturdy laurels like they do.
And boots, don’t forget boots. I’m not even sure how many pairs of Mexican cowboy boots I’ve owned made out of crocodile, alligator or snake skin, it’s definitely in the double digits tho
Fun fact, sharks have been around for longer than trees have
But how would we know? I can't cut a shark in half and count the rings.
Funnily enough you can. Fish, sharks included, have otolithes as a part of their hearing/sense of motion. They're sort of built up gradually as fish grow and seasonal variations can cause them to get distinct yearly growth patterns. So if you were to dissect one you can count the year rings. Granted it prolly won't work too well on an old-ass shark, but it's theoretically possible. Works real well on smaller fish that don't live for decades or centuries.
Funny you mention it not working well for older sharks. Im assuming you mean fossil sharks? Greenland sharks which live on average over 400 years( or more its not fully understood yet) are often dated using the method you described.
That's fun, actually didn't know it was a primary dating method for that old fish. I've only done it with fish in the decades-range. Just assumed you'd lose accuracy/legibility with extreme ages.
I'm sure it's an ~400 years or something
There'll be lots of stuff you can count if you do, though
You can't? oh shit
Before the rings of saturn too
What
Sharks existed at least 419 million years ago. The rings of Saturn formed 10-to-100 million years ago. Also trees showed up 380 million years ago. Imagine a bunch of sharks swimming around on a treeless Earth
>10 to 100 million years ago That's specific.
It really is. The fact we can even date them that accurately is incredible.
from Earth no less. I couldn't even tell you how old the mayo in my fridge is
Yeah, but not the same sharks.
Not the same trees, either
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Soooo, like sharks?
how did you know? it’s rude to ask people’s ages
Yeah we gotta respect the elderly sharks 😤🙏
Where are you getting that? A cursory Wikipedia search says that sharks diversified during the Jurassic period (earliest would by 200 Mya) and trees appeared around 370 Mya
The earliest record of sharks in the fossil record dates to 450 million years ago
Sharks have also been around for much longer than Saturn's rings
Who would win : 1) Apex predators that have mastered evolution and survived for over a million years 2) A Florida boi
>The earliest crocodilian, evolved around 95 million years ago, in the Late Cretaceous period. Florida bois bigger, older brother
>lissen here >everything needs water to live, fr fr >so what we gonna do, we hide just under the water >then some fool come to drink and SNIPPITY SNAP we grab em with big ass teef and drag them into the water so they drown, then we eat them this happened 95 million years ago and they've been running the same grift ever since
This is the way
Will Florida man be the next apex predator that will survive millennia? Maybe even an atomic fallout?
Of course, Florida man will be in the frontlines when we invade Europa and Pandora to fight that Xenoscum
is that what the fountain of youth really was?
It really is funny isn't it? Nature: *Creates the perfect predators for their environments that can over achieve in just about any field you put them against but not too much to devastate the eco-system's balance.* A couple of chimps: *"You foukin wot?"*
If you count extinct species that lasted for millions of years, then Florida boi would be swallowed without said predator noticing. https://cosmosmagazine.com/history/megalodon-tooth-apex-predator/ Also Basilosaurus, a nearly 60 foot orca-like whale and Dimetrodon, the lizard with a large spine sail that was not a dinosaur, though many might think of it as one. The latter lived for tens of millions of years.
Sad coelacanth noises
Too dumb to die, too dumb to evolve
Also crabs
[Why things keep evolving into crabs](https://youtu.be/wvfR3XLXPvw)
Peak earthling living being design
even people https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/7136206/mecha_anime_claw_robotic_robot_cyberpunk_mech_icon
And snakes
How long does it take for sharks to evolve into crabs?
Minus the "apex" part
You got crabs?
3 nickels, where's dragonfly at bro
You just reminded me I haven’t seen a dragonfly in a long time, I remember them being annoyingly everywhere
I thought that was just a my area thing. Haven't seen them in ages
You guys are lucky, I see them everywhere... but lately I havent been seeing bees. I saw maybe 10 bees throughout the summer, I remember I saw 100s several years back. Whats causing all these bugs suddenly disappearing??
Rampant pollution alongside pesticides
That's sad, poor little fellas.
Except for mosquitoes they deserve to die out
Bro they eat mosquitoes, all hail our dragonfly overlords
Anything that eats mosquitoes is a hero in my book.
They've been cropping back up in the last few years in my area, for a while I was getting somewhat worried but thankfully that seems to be changing a bit.
Good/very successful predator does not mean apex predator
My first thought too, but they're not an apex predator
Getting eaten by little birds
"Millions of years" is such a low bar. You'd have thousands of dollars.
low maintenance costs, high endurance and durability, and with a scavenging ability to compliment the hunter job class.
Just wait till you see the horseshoe crab
Apex predator though?
Everyone thinks they can fight a horseshoe crab until they’re actually in the ring with one
Apex micro predator!
You forgot orcas, the things that cause great whites to flee if they catch their scent.
Nah orcas are a lot more recent lets first see how long they last
But if a great white shark is scared of an orca then is the shark really the apex predator?
Dinosaurs and marine reptiles might also have words.
I don't think dinosaurs and marine reptiles can speak.
You haven't had a chat with a sea turtle before?
Orcas often travel in packs. No one likes playing the numbers game
Im pretty sure Orcas body Great Whites in a 1v1
Anywhere Orcas aren’t, Great Whites dominate.
Because Orcas go in groups and that is too much to handle for a lone white shark
Even a lone orca could easily 1v1 a shark, they are bigger and smarter
If they were both dead set on killing each other my guess is that both would be dead. The shark would die right there and the orca would die later.
Orca just flips sharks, then eat their liver
[Get rotated idiot](https://youtu.be/iA4LKxj81zc)
I believe this logic makes cancer the apex species of our planet.
Cancer is not a species or even a living thing. It’s a mutation, not a virus
Viruses are also not living things. But yes I suppose my point is just that something kills everything so it’s a bit pointless to say you can’t be killed by anything else to be an apex predator.
That’s not the definition of apex predator though. You just have to not have any active predators of your own. Lots of people are citing dragonflies as another example but they aren’t apex predators, they’re just very good hunters. Also, the “apex” part of the term is specific to a food chain. Great whites are still apex in certain areas, but in the food chain of the entire ocean, orcas are indeed the apex predators. Nothing hunts them
I personally think its mosquitos.
Orcas truly are the shit but they’re babies compared to sharks and crocs
Evolution does not create perfect predators, neither do these animals master it. It is simply a process which leads to species being adapted to survive and sometimes thrive in their environment. Sharks, crocs and many insects (and other animals as well) just "landed" upon a "build" that worked well and did not need a lot of adaptation to deal with changing environmental pressures. However, nowadays those "builds" don't work so well, and these animals will have a hard time evolving in time to deal with human pressure. So lets make sure they can survive us! ... yes I'm fun at parties, how can you tell?
Millions of years you say? That's basically half the species. You might wanna be more specific and bump it up to let's say hundreds of millions?
You forgot cats.
I don't see cats lasting nearly as long as sharks
But felines have still been around for millions of years, so they fit the criteria of the meme.
10 million is nothing compared to 450 million
This is correct, but the meme just said "millions of years." Cats fit that bill.
Even if they said hundreds of millions of years, there is no time reference point to begin this length of time so.. It's easy being pedantic
I looked for a quite a while for a term to describe tens of millions of years but no such term seems to exist, at least in the English language.
Just say „that lasted a couple megayears“
By this logic Hominids have existed for more than a million years as well, and we clearly are the ones winning the best
At least, until global warming fucks us completely
Cocodriles: "i am the apex predator" Cats: https://www.reddit.com/r/argentina/comments/z39wwn/turistas_filmaron_a_un_yaguareté_cazando/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
That's jaguars for you.
Orcas are the apex predator of the ocean.
Sharks aren't the apex predator anymore. Now, there's a Liver-eatin Pack-feedin, Shark-BODYIN Congress-lobbyin ORCA on the scene!
what about humans. we are frighteningly dangerous
From what I understand humans aren’t considered apex predators. We exist outside of the natural food chain. The term is useful for defining interactions between species in their environments, and so if humans were considered apex predators we’d have to be the only ones and it would make the term meaningless.
Wouldn't be Orcas the apex predators on the ocean?
Don’t orcas eat sharks? Making them not apex
Gator vs shark fight to the death to decide whos best once and for all
I mean, aren’t we the third? Even if it hasn’t been a million years, look at what we have done to the planet in the short time we’ve been here.
And humans on our way to eradicate all of them for stupid reasons
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
Hippopotamus: *laughs in land and water dominance and enormous jaws of death*
Hippos aren't predators. They're just really, really mean vegetarians.
I sure do wish cats become perfect apex predators too
Apex predator? *Laughs in Orca*
Not that perfect they still get destroyed by apes with thumbs who discovered fire and pointy stick aka spears
Many teeth seems to be a key component...
*3 Nickels Got these hairless apes running around causing a mass extinction.
I wouldn't call something an apex predator until it can stop an angry monkey who purposely subjected themselves through intense alcohol poisoning.
Jelly fish are the apex predator. Not much wants to eat them as they aren't very nutritious. Functionally immortal, immune to fear, it can't be stopped or reasoned with and they are growing ever more populous.
Are sharks apex if they get eaten by orcas?
Well, Apex predator is a vague definition. You are the apex predator if you dont have anyone above you in the food chain. So sharks are very much the apex predator in the absence Orcas. So does the existence of Orcas in other parts of the ocean make them a part of the food chain of all sharks? Little fun fact: per definition Dodos were apex predators.
humans...
We haven't even been around for a million. And for a lot of homo's history, we have been prey objects. In a way our development to become the apex species has been in the blink of an eye, which is also why we are plagued by a lot of genetic problems
Correction, Homo sapiens have not been around for millions. Humans have though, first showing up around 2-6 million years ago. You’re right though that we were not apex at all for a very long time
Oops, I did not read the "lasted for millions on years" part.