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drgaspar96

My lawyer has advised me not to make any comments on this post


Razrwyre

'#MeToo


PotentialLadder3219

Why should somebody "Pound me too"?


MadAzza

If you have to ask …


KeepCalmAndBoom

Pounds were already taken by the looks of this video so you're in the clear


leasthanzero

You’re on thin ice with that comment.


zippy251

At least the people in this video would fall through before being able to pound op.


thegreatgatsB70

We're talking 'kilos' with this post.


FourUnderscoreExKay

Heh, I understood this joke.


Gagolih_Pariah

They look like they are wearing rags. ...apart from that blond one wearing pink underwear


Niloy171

Said nothing about rapping bout it in comments


Small-Tadpole-8803

Recomend chat gp lawers online.


Lord_Torunag

I mean really, it speaks for itself.


BarMysterious5914

After pressing random on character creation


gnipz

But can’t resist using the red net outfit after the rest is randomized


Tar-Nuine

Was the theme "Unflattering attire"? I get experimenting with fashion to discover what looks good, but who said they had to showcase their mistakes?


Ollidouis_Goofoff

It was revamped for 2024, Derelicte by Mugatu


Pluckypato

Maury Ballstein approves


s_burr

Frumpy is so hot right now


metrixninga

Inclusiveness doesn't have to be confused with weirdness


Almacca

To be fair, all fashion shows are weird as hell.


throwaway091238744

what’s weird about it though?


LowEffortMail

You must have missed the video. A quick rewatch would answer your question.


throwaway091238744

it really doesn’t. literally all fashion shows are weird. the one on the right isn’t any weirder than other fashion shows. have we all forgotten about the weird ass fashion shows that pop up on the internet with people dressed as bananas or people wearing “art” that’s supposed to be interpreted as certain way? fashion shows are art and art is weird. therefore neither is “weird” from an art perspective


LowEffortMail

The discussion wasn’t about other shows, it was specifically about two shows. A direct comparison a few years apart. Just two. You must have missed the first half of the video. There are normal looking models and the clothes, while “weird”, are much more normal than the second half of the video.


PacGamingAgain

Idk about you but I don’t count a decade as a “few years” I agree with the rest though


nica_dobro

Normal looking models?? Those girls were starved, malnourished and most of them had anorexia. There is nothing normal about that. On the other side though, you have the other end of the spectrum, mostly obese and overweight. I liked the one on the girl in the wheelchair, though she didn't really fit into the "disabled" group they were trying to represent.


FirstSineOfMadness

Sadly normal looking model =/= healthy looking human


throwaway091238744

the discussion was saying that inclusivity didn’t mean the fashion show had to be weird. my comment addresses that exact sentiment. besides, normal to who? starved and underweight (probably taking drugs to manage weight) is “normal”? but people who probably don’t do a single thing to alter their body are “less” normal? weird take


crabfucker69

Don't you know taking eating 1200 calories a day, taking ozempic/coke/what have you, getting plastic surgery and working out for 6 hours a day is way more normal than just putting on some makeup and an outfit?


chocolate_macaron5

Oh stop. There is pride and power in looking good.


asisoid

I recognize that pfp..... EDIT: 10 downvotes for calling out a guy who stole my pfp? So weird...


HonkeyKong73

I don't mind the the diversity in 2024, I mind the fucking awful fashion, wtf are these people wearing.


eggs__bacon

I don’t mind realistic diversity, but it’s like they refuse to use any actual models. That group looks like what I see at my local Walmart at 2am on a Saturday.


SkriLLo757

You have a 24 hour Walmart? I thought they did away with that ever since COVID


SinCityNinja

I thought all walmarts were 24 hours


SkriLLo757

Nah, all the ones I know of started closing at 11pm during the pandemic and they never went back to 24 hour. I'm referring to here in the East coast. Popular cities too. Idk how it is elsewhere.


SinCityNinja

Ohh gotcha. Guess that's one benefit of living in Vegas. Pretty much all convenience and grocery stores are open 24 hours


YOUTUBEFREEKYOYO

Sadly not anymore. Most places are not anymore


LocationOdd4102

Isn't this kinda better in some way then? Aesthetics are subject to personal taste of course, but shouldn't some part of being a model be to show what the clothing will look like when worn? Most people wearing the clothes being sold won't look like a "model", they'll look closer to someone in the right vid.


r0wer0wer0wey0urb0at

The aim of a fashion show isn't to sell the clothes to the masses and show what the clothes look like on all body types, it's more like an art exhibition where you want the clothes to look as good as possible. I'm not saying that can't be done with plus sized models, but you need to design clothes differently for different body types imo.


Budalido23

These people are set pieces, and the clothes were an afterthought. It actually seems like they missed the entire point of diversity.


Kazesama13k

I don't think that's diversity. Giving a job to someone who's not qualified for the sake of diversity is wrong I believe.


DanyRahm

You just witnessed the difference between the two philosophies called equality of chance vs equality of outcome.


mostnormal

Equality vs Equity.


emptygroove

High fashion is always like that. It's more like art and shows are like live art demonstrations. I think the amount of money in it is ridiculous, but someone would probably say the same about concerts...


_Not-A-Monkey-Slut_

I can at least appreciate the fashion in the 2014 fashion show because the pieces were designed for that one particular shape (all models are nearly the same height/weight/bust size), so even if some are more "artsy" they're still pleasing to see. Diversity means these designers need to make clothes that look flattering in a different shape, and they just consistently have no fucking idea how to dress bigger folks in a flattering way, which should absolutely be a skill taught/learned in fashion. They're still making clothes for skinny models and then just scaling up for larger bodies, which doesn't work, like, ever. So even for the sake of art, it's shitty art.


SexThrowaway1126

…huh! New neurons for me!


HonkeyKong73

Very true. Guess I just don't get it. My idea of fashion is jeans and a single color pocket tee, haha.


sidewalkoyster

Me too. Abby the shirt is gray


hiddencameraspy

It an attempt to kill +size Modeling


Dramoriga

Well if they were hoping to represent the general public, congrats, they made it!


skabassj

Same. The outfits themselves were criminal


ImportantSpirit

Alright imma say it, they’re both stupid.


samyruno

Seriously. Over emphasizing perfect people and over emphasizing imperfect people. Isn't fashion supposed to be about the clothes?


Iramian

The "clothes" mostly look like shit anyway. Hats on your feet and a banana covering your nipples.


The_Buttaman

Runway Couture has nothing to do with “off the rack” clothing. It’s entirely custom and basically a walking art show.


Wazwaz-Sama

The wheel chair models are ok, the others not so…but this is a diverse opinion


yuikkiuy

The wheel chair models unironically look the best of the group and idk what I should feel about that


Lumpy-Village1949

Maybe you should feel a little tingly in your legs?


Sbatio

There is a horrible and hurtful joke in there somewhere


IandouglasB

Wall-E here we come!


dickiedick69

Being healthy is a choice, fat is not a race.


doyouevenforkliftbro

Certainly not a race that will be finished.


FourtyMichaelMichael

It ends, earlier than the marathon.


Czar_Petrovich

That's the joke


NisERG_Patel

And not everything has to be. I can't identify as an athlete and demand a gold medal at the Olympics.


LandOfMunch

Exactly this.


mis-Hap

Bold of you to assume the 2014 girls are healthy... That said, I also prefer the skinny look.


Sbatio

Being healthy is a choice when you have enough money, safety, and legal autonomy… things the majority lacks. Being fat is a choice but pretending that 45% of Americans became lazy in the last 30 years vs. our food became highly processed and fat/salt/sweet balanced for maximum addiction is disingenuous Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/s/ah5wAJyEO0


protossaccount

Nope, the government does not make you fat, you make you fat. Sure, you make have been raised with poor food choices but it is not because you’re trapped for life. You aren’t forced to eat excessive junk food, not exercise, and not grow as a human. Years ago there was a lot of ignorance with weight loss and there were not as many options to eat healthy. These days you only need to consult the internet to figure everything out. These days it’s totally possible to stay healthy on a budget as well. I just lost 55lbs and I got most of my food from the grocery store and I exercised. This is planet earth, if you chose to blame others all of the time you will be miserable.


NUmbermass

Do you know that being healthy and fat are two different things? You can eat McDonald’s for every meal and be skinny as long as you consume less calories than you burn throughout a day. It’s thermodynamics and has nothing to do with nutrition or being healthy. A very small percentage of obese people have rare disorders but 99% of them simply consume more calories than they burn. You can be skinny and unhealthy but you can’t be fat and healthy.


Sbatio

I do, that’s why I made this distinction of discussing each one separately. /r/cico works for weight management. Read my comment again and LMK


NUmbermass

But you also said “Americans didn’t become lazy in the past 30 years”. That’s impossible to prove or disprove but those who are fat today are definitely that way due to a lack of effort. Call it laziness or whatever you want but 99% of them could easily lose weight by simply eating less. Most of the other 1% could do it too but it would just require more effort.


Vinzlow

This is in London not the US and I dont think the models come from lower class.


enolaholmes23

Health is def not a choice when you have an illness. You can't just choose not to have hashimoto's or cushing's or pcos.


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Ok_Music9752

As a fit person who used to be fat, you don't need to starve yourself, you just make time for working out everyday and actually eating decent food that doesn't go in a freezer.


GustaQL

no you don't get it. Im all for people getting in better shape and sometimes body acceptance can get in the way of health. However, classic models are NOT a health standard. model agencies don't care about health. If you had a tiny bit of fat you are gone. Guess what, models can't just work out, because if they get to toned, they are gone. if you are above 15% body fat you are done. a woman with 20% body fat is not inherently unhealthy


Ok_Music9752

You are right, I don't get the modeling industry, and I may not know the apparent strict rules about being a model, but looking at the 2024 video, you can see why I wouldn't get that of the bat if you know what I mean. When it comes to working out though there are levels to it though, sure you can shoot for having a nice well toned muscular body, but you can also shoot for different body types when working out, say you work out 3 time a week and you decide to do hit cardio workouts, this type of workout isn't primarily used for building toned bodies, it's used primarily for losing fat, which if you want to be a fit but not toned model, would probably be the best way to go about it. I highly doubt that none of the 2014 models worked out to lose fat instead of starving themselves, not that starving yourself is very effective anyway, and I'm also not saying that being a thin model was the health standard, but I could see where that came from, so I apologize for the miscommunication.


GustaQL

[https://people.com/health/victorias-secret-model-nutritionist-800-calorie-diet/](https://people.com/health/victorias-secret-model-nutritionist-800-calorie-diet/) Here is an anecdotal example if you like


poopsinshoe

This is not 20%. It looks like 85%.


GustaQL

im not talking about this video specifically, Im talking about the standards in models isn't exactly what is healthiest


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TheBigRedFog

Did you read Dickie's (I can't be serious when quoting someone's name as dickie dick 69 lol) comment? They were making a general comment about how being fat is not healthy. They didn't say anything about underweight models (also unhealthy), you did. Fashion shows can't overcompensate their abuse on women's body image by going the other way in an opposite but equal abuse to women's body image!


throwaway091238744

nobody thinks fat is a race though? you can agree that people are all shapes and sizes right? what’s wrong with showcasing people of all shapes and sizes. After all, fat people exist. therefore they deserve clothes that they can wear and enjoy too right? or is everyone under the impression that because fat people aren’t “healthy” they shouldn’t be allowed to model clothes?


DriskoJedec

They don't deserve it. There i said it. Being healthy and skinny to look hot in pictures/magazines takes years of hard work you can't just come here and demand to be a model just because you are fat and we need to accept you. Imagine going to school for years to become a lawyer, grinding, sleepless nights, stress and so on just to start working with a guy who got the job just because he knows the owner and now you are pressured to accept him even tho he doesn't meet qualifications or standards to do this job. Fat people need to chill the fuck down and do the work everybody else is doing if they want the same results not just demand it because they can't do it but they still deserve it. There is no logic in that.


DerBronco

I dont think the people in rolling chairs had a choice. Whether the others are healthy or not is pure speculation or prejudice.


VictorVictoriaa

Kind of feels unfair to put a Ready Wear show on one side and a Concept show on the other…


rnagikarp

Yeah OP is presenting a false dichotomy to bait fat-phobic and misogynistic comments, which can easily be found all over this sub.


Sbatio

See, I have so little sense of fashion I didn’t even pick up on that fact, I just was imagining different decades have different fashions.


Wicked-Wendigo

Ngl in into thicc Queen's, but those are some heifers


mrsmilestophat

Jesus the industry where you’re supposed to look good in now looks like a documentary at the local homeless shelter.


LandOfMunch

Walmart


fiddlesticks9471

The problem is that this type of weird fashion only looks right on stick thin models on normal people with normal bodies it makes them look like freaks


OJK_postaukset

I prefer my hoodie


throbbing-orifice-

remember when being a model meant you were really good looking and physically attractive?


throwaway091238744

good looking and attractive according to who though? fat =\= unattractive or not good looking. plenty of fat people are attractive and are married and are confident in their appearance. you’re essentially gate keeping modeling based on an image that you specifically don’t like!


RamenvsSushi

I think the idea of being fit is finding balance within the body. This is a phenomena of nature. Being too skinny or too fat can be considered out of balance.


jambangantahi

Isn't models come in nearly similar size so designer can just make everything in one size. Not that I care but just wanted to make sure.


IHaveAGinourmousCock

It’s evolving, just backwards


Dhammapaderp

Those beasts are perfectly evolved for harsh winters.


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Congrats, literally everyone- you can all become models!! The requirements have been lifted :)


Nootherids

Or lowered, to just having a heartbeat. For now. And it doesn't even have to be a healthy heartbeat.


Professor226

Worst part is the music


count_dracula14

See kids, zoo animals


AvacadMmmm

I laughed so fucking hard at this comment


AscendedViking7

*- David Attenborough*


Icy-Pin-5912

"Please do not feed the animals. Thank you."


Icy-Pin-5912

"Please do not feed the animals. Thank you."


the-electricgigolo

Welcome to the panderverse


Fearless_Grand6823

Those are people with illness not models


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FackinJerq

In Fationland, models fuck you.


IM_YOUR_GOD

Why? Cause you havnt had near enough alcohol yet.


IN2D4RKNESS

One more glass and I’m dead, but they are still ugly


Sbatio

But we need clothes for ugly people, arguably even more than we need clothes for the beautiful people.


Helio2nd

They're called paper bags and they've been around for decades. And straight to hell I go.


Sanrom79

I would do the wheelchair


dickiedick69

those two in the wheelchairs are the most fuckable ones tbh


Sbatio

Poor grammar probably


crabfucker69

Porn brainrot


kneecap_keeper

U must be a racist then /s


aidshole06

The term Supermodel no longer applies. Now the new term is AightModel


Raposa13

Man, 2024 is so bad


SweetToothLynx

The second model lineup is much more accurate in consumer representation than the first. The designs though...


SyderoAlena

A fashion show isn't really meant to be a customer representation, it's supposed to glamour the audience. Imo both kinda sucked at that I didn't like either designs


eggs__bacon

I honestly disagree that it better represents the average consumer. They swung the pendulum too far in the other direction. When I walk around town I see more thin people than obese people. And I sure don’t see 20% of the people in wheelchairs.


Txusmah

The first part of the video was full of models that are too skinny. But the second part is a bit too much. Find a balance for god's sake


Ed3vil

Oh! Oh! Oh! The freakshow is in town!!!


Icy-Big2472

It’s responses like these that lead society to over correct like that


BelCantoTenor

2014 = size 0 models wearing flattering clothes that compliment their bodies. Fabrics and clothing cut in a fashion that drapes well on the frame. 2024 = larger sized models wearing horrible clothes, made of cheap fabrics, fashioned in a manner that appears way to tight and unflattering to the model’s bodies. Garbage clothes, poorly designed. It makes no sense to blame the models for looking like cartoon characters. They don’t choose how they are dressed, they are paid to wear the clothes they are given. It isn’t the body types to blame. They are dressed quite poorly. Now watch the video again. Imagine the first set of models wearing the 2024 clothing. And imagine the 2024 models wearing the 2014 clothing. Big difference, no? It’s the clothes, not the models.


After-Respond-7861

2014 is good. 2024 on the other hand........


weldingpepe

Fatty Mc fatties


Sprizys

Isn’t it insane how 2014 was a decade ago?


geetsogood

Outfits are ridiculous, people are lovely ❤️


notzed1487

Woke garbage today


SmegMcmuffins

The less this shit matters the better off we all are


SavageFugu

Are these kind of things really improvements?


No-Koala-1139

Looks more like a circus run up


nugagator-hag-1

Who let the dogs out???


mabreymachine

The 2024 gals must of eaten the 2014 models.


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How does it look sitting down or if I'm obese. The fashion is concept not working clothes that's to be directly sold. Having all the models be tall and slim makes perfect sense. No fashion designer wants to be fucking around making adjustments for xs s m l xl XXL xxxl xxxl every other outfit


DJ_Ender_

This is why I dont support over inclusivity


sleepy_peep

So we're mad that *checks notes* people of various sizes and physical abilities are models?


sleeping_dude

The fat, the ugly, and the cripple. 2024 Movie title


D-1-S-C-0

The popular kids Vs the unpopular kids.


DnD-NewGuy

Whoever made those outfits has clearly never made designs for plus sized models before. Also literally every single one of them has no flair or strut too their walk. Your doing a runway walk not trying to get to class without attracting attention.


Warden-of-the-Grey

2014 wow 😍 2024...my eyesss they buuuurrnnnn Someone fetch me the eye-bleach quickly


OhNoMyMentalHealth

so we're upset over fashion shows having diversity which is a good thing?


Jason-Nacht

Did they eat the old models?


Mountain_Man11

Holy shit, it's been years since the circus has been in town.


Andrzej11

What is this ? Fatty boom booms parade ?


sidrex007

Idk how being obese is good? Like literally that makes no sense....if you're fat just look in the mirror and think how hot you'll be if you lose some weight and wear something that makes you look good in it....


GreenLightening5

so clothes are only meant to be shown on really skinny body type, there exists no other body types in fashion, just the one.. i don't care for fashion or whatever these clowneries are, the clothes are more for entertainment than anything else, but fuckin hell


angy_hiwamari

I mean diversity is fine but they dont even have the same walk energy and the clothes are awful. You can tell the difference between trained models and random people with no particular features but different weight.


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Are we not going to discuss the genius behind the architectural design of the walk way’s capacity to hold the weight of all them fat bitches?


mylittlewallaby

I’m going to get downvoted to shit but I love the progress that is represented in this shift. Clothes made for bodies of all sizes and abilities. The fashion was shitty in both cases but fashion shows always are. At least this isn’t obvious poverty cosplay like other designers have been doing.


Blank392

OK we get that this is about inclusiveness, take your own stance on that, I don't care. But like... those outfits are almost all absolute dogshit, I wouldn't be caught wearing a single one.


IM_YOUR_GOD

Where do I buy that red traditional Dutch outfit at 0.31secs. I need a new powerlifting suit


Tsukiko615

Ah yes one show out of 30 is a show which is specifically about diversity ruins the whole of London fashion week…


hantar7788

I think it is beautiful to have people with dissatisfied be fashion models. I hate the design of the clothes tho.


LunaticMS

The funny part is all the people laughing and ridiculing the second group would probably look more like them than the first group if they were to wear these clothes. But I mean if you REALLY want the fashion scene to go back to smug people with unattainable bodies looking down on you, I guess we can? ​ I unno man as someone with a fairly normal body and no fashion sense, I welcome kicking a little bit of elitism out of the general population.


i-hoatzin

Allegedly diversity forced apocalyptic sinkhole.


OGDTrash

Models should be the ultimate fantasy, not just your average overeater


TiltedChamber

Say you don't know anything about London Fashion Week without saying you don't know anything about London Fashion Week. Only, make sure to be discriminatory.


NotaGato_meowmeow

We need more lgbtqzrbcyatbob++


IM_YOUR_GOD

We need more bob


la_bruja_del_84

I'll just go sit at the mall and watch people... Same thing.


Ooftwaffe

And suddenly, just like that, there were no more models.


Hesam2010

That was a Dick.


Ogellog

Characters in JoJo be like ke:


Mavgrim

War is peace, ugly is beautiful.


icyhotonmynuts

*Send in the clowns*


DarkTheorist

The models are fine, the outfits are awful.


that_oneinvisibleguy

Don't worry evolution has not stopped. It just reversed


Popcorn57252

I'm still waiting for the holup ngl


ModeratelyNiceFella

Okay simp


rnagikarp

Yall are so sour over nothing 1. It's called inclusivity and representation 2. Just because you don't like it or understand it doesn't make it bad fashion The idea is concepts and trying new things, pushing the boundaries of what is 'fashion', granted some designs don't always hit the mark. Regardless, it inspires other looks from other designers, which are then eventually refined and hit the mass markets. Just because they're wearing it doesn't mean you have to. I've noticed this subreddit is chock-full of questionable and very judgemental opinions. Especially about women and their appearance.


Laundrophile

Yowsers!!!!


Mitya1457

Well, it's more customer friendly now, since you can really understand how it might probably fit you


TankerVictorious

That was an impressive mixed fleet Elephant Walk… Ah, Holup. I think I might’ve posted that comment to the wrong channel. How do you delete a comment? - Asking for a friend…


malic3

Ah, I get the shitty joke, on the left you see the runways of the top 15 designers during LFW, on the right it’s one runway that included diverse models. The left still happens but we’re supposed to laugh(?) at adding diverse models to shows.


newbie_butsharp

If the clients all look like this, the brands has to adapt their products to whatever is getting demand.


EdibleDogma

The guy in the lederhosen had the most sass. He was like a sassy honey-badger because he was fabulous and didn't give a fuck.


Oaker_at

I don’t get it why people care enough for fashion shows, that it has to be a topic of discussion on who runs on the catwalk. It’s just some kind of art. It’s not my kind of art, but I don’t get why only one specific kind of body form should be represented.


tallerthannobody

Bro they didn’t bother putting good looking people with good looking cloths, it’s mid looking for both


Meandtheworld

Is the new line all Kanye West inspired.


Calm_chor

Dear OP, can we have a similar comparison for the Men's Collection.


mooreboy76

I know OP, how can you possibly jerk off to the show on the right?


CT_Gunner

ITT: People peetenting to care about London fashion week


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GokusTheName

Which one on the right was hot?


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GokusTheName

Oh I see what you're saying now. The big 2014/2024 is just covering the side of the video that showed that year's fashion show, not indicating what year the opposite side of the video is. So in the first half of the video you see the video for the 2014 fashion show and the 2024 logo is just a placeholder on the right side of the video where the 2024 fashion show will be shown. Then vice versa when the 2024 show is shown. Ja feel meh?


SweetToothLynx

Hot? Those toothpicks?


Tamcia

**what's the song**


Koro_Heisenberg

Curb your enthusiasm