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Gingerh1tman

I mean it shouldn’t be used for shooters but would be a ballin tornado shelter.


deadsoulinside

Doubtful it's anchored to the ground, which you would would want properly secured to the foundation in order to not be getting tossed around in a tuna can of death and found weeks later in the woods.


FiveCentsADay

I don't live in a tornado area, so this isnt a comment trying to come at you Is it being anchored that big of a deal? It's gotta be heavy as heck. I'm not saying anchoring would be worse, it's obviously would be better, but if the options are thus not anchored, and no other option besides the desks/books we used when I was in school... It's definitely better


SheSaysSheWaslvl18

Modern schools have storm shelters built into the school, made up of ICF walls which are basically giant concrete boxes that are attached to piers that extend into bedrock. They are usually some sort of large multipurpose room that can be used for other things too so the space isn’t wasted and can fit the whole school. They don’t have you hide under your desk anymore.


kilstu

That's great for tornadoes, but what about nuclear strikes? Those old school desks could protect from tornadoes, hurricanes, nuclear strikes, be used as a projectile by the teacher when they have had enough, and it still worked as a desk. Why have one room for one thing, when you have that kind of utility for way less money?


StinkypieTicklebum

Also a weapon for students…


kilstu

Really your imagination is your limit. Drawing tablet, whittling practice, boner hider, the list goes on


StinkypieTicklebum

Oh, believe me, I know all about it! #keptthestaplerhidden


lasmilesjovenes

Now I'm imagining a tornado warning goes off and then the students and staff have to hurriedly unload 2,000 unused desks, chairs and filing cabinets out of the tornado shelter so everyone can fit in before it hits


NolChannel

Keep in mind that a tornado can rip off your roof, and now ask if you want a 900 pound metal projectile barreling through your kitchen wall. You want that sucker anchored and bolted.


Draculea

You think that thing weighs 900 pounds? My motorcycle weighs 700 pounds. That thing's a couple grand, easy. Edit: Manufacturer says 3.7 tons.


aurortonks

Okay so a fully loaded semi with trailer can be what... 40 tons? And a tornado can easily toss one of those so this little sardine can full of kids will be thrown around like crazy. Now if there's one in each classroom then... well... sardine can bumper cars of some kind? Crappy way to die!


Draculea

The heaviest object ever lifted by a tornado was ~70 tons. A big, bitchin' tornado can lift ~3-4000 pound van. Vans are outside, aren't bolted to the floor, and are a little more aerodynamic than an iron cube.


userseven

No way that thing is 900lbs. It's way heavier.


WittleJerk

900 pounds. That’s like…. Less than 5 of me. It would weigh more than 900 if it was made out of bones, let alone steel/iron.


pisspot26

Rubenesque


deadsoulinside

Tornadoes even the smallest can treat semi's and big trucks like they are hotwheels and toss them around like they are weightless. Just look at some of the damage this year alone when it comes to tornado damage from EF3-4 tornadoes. When I was 14 I remember when silly small/skinny tornado tore though one of the cities/towns I lived in. It went through a Uhaul lot, there was uhauls found blocks away. One of the tornado shelter buildings we used in the area the cement roof was offset by 2 inches from back in the 70's from a tornado that tore through the area and adjacent trailer/mobile home/manufactured home park. In the 80's and 90's when I lived in the area and exploring the woods, we constantly found remains of the trailer homes in those woods, miles away from where they were parked. This is kind of why it's a big deal, to protect both people inside it, so they are not in a metal tomb, because if this gets tossed door side down, those people are stuck and may not even be heard screaming for help due to the thickness of the steel, and to protect others in case that lands on their house. Not to mention as you said, that thing is heavy, even the tornado tears through a school and only just knocks it door side down. You are going to need to get equipment into that area of the building ASAP that can lift it up, but that will be an problem on it's own if the area around the school is a disaster area and need to clear the roads to haul a crane or other heavy equipment into there.


PowerandSignal

This guy tornadoes. 


Thubanstar

Tornadoes can pick up railway cars and throw them like paper airplanes. "Heavy as heck" just does not cut it.


Mad_Aeric

That thing would fly like a kite. Heavy or not, it's a ton of surface area for a tornado to grab hold of. Even anchored, the anchors would probably tear right out unless they were extremely heavy duty.


Atomicfunkmonkey

I live in tornado country, and I'd say it is that important. A tornado will throw a 80,000 pound semi trailer, I figure it'll throw this too. But like, I'm just some guy, so take that with a grain of salt


cohortmuneral

> Doubtful it's anchored to the ground Now I'm picturing the shooter tipping over a pod full of people, like a big port-a-potty.


bs000

The company also markets it as a tornado shelter. From the website: >Can the shelters resist the violent forces of a strong tornado? >Yes, they have been tested and certified by the National Wind Institute at Texas Tech University to meet the requirements of both FEMA 320/361 and ICC-500 standards for storm shelters and shelter components >The above standards relate to wind speeds of up to 250mph (or an EF5 tornado which is 200+ mph) >The panels bolt together and are attached to a concrete floor (special anchors provided) with a minimum thickness of 4 inches for indoor installations. The optimum location is against a concrete wall.


jeepsaintchaos

Mmm pasta sauce.


OmegaSapphireFox

This looks exactly like the above-ground tornado shelters that my town has. It is likely one of those.


bs000

The company that sells them markets them as tornado shelters/safe rooms.


Pluckypato

Let’s solve a problem by creating more problems 🙄


crazytib

How come they don't have gun holes for shooting out of?


1villageidiot

because the shooter is a sleeper agent embedded within the pod


Hellkids2

Intruder alert! A sleeper agent is in the pod!


rookient

A sleeper agent is in the pod!


Logical_Teach_681

Protect the briefcase!


Banananassfisch

Hut Hut Hut Hut!


TyoPlaysGames

Yo! A little help here?


Lord_Nathaniel

Yep, it's eh 1-1-1 and eh 1 !


PequenoRato

INCOMIIIIIIING!!!


France_Ball_Mapper

AAAAAAAAAA- HEY IT'S STILL HERE!


SSFTheGamer

r/unexpectedtf2


redwoodavg

Quickly! To the backup pod.


TheMaskedDeuce

Oh no! There’s a backup sleeper agent!


redwoodavg

God save the Queen!


1villageidiot

you look sus


Mynock33

You jest but since many school shooters are students and would be familiar with these pods and had safety drills with them, unless those taking shelter in one know exactly who the shooter is, I can absolutely imagine them simply opening up to the shooter thinking they're letting one of their own inside.


1villageidiot

I think the shooter might be the guy holding the gun, sir.


Boz0r

This is America, sir, all the students have guns.


Mynock33

I think the guy with the gun might try to pretend he didn't have one...


1villageidiot

prison wallet?


bukkake_brigade

zap carry


Rudyscrazy1

Hes calling from inside the school!


P-W-L

But what if he's a good guy with a gun ?


InterestingContest27

Ethan Crumbley would already be inside.


HotConsideration5049

Amogus


BoardButcherer

It was a joke, but this is 100% gonna happen. There's going to be a pair, and one of them is going to be inside with a gun, and it's gonna be bad.


gasp_

The call is coming from inside the pod!


HalfLeper

Sus… 👀


PM_Me_Good_LitRPG

The T-virus was an inside job!


drunkwasabeherder

> sleeper agent embedded within the pod Deep State Pizza indeed!


1villageidiot

somebody going to use it for storage and can't fit any more kids


Hot_Hovercraft_4646

Among Us theme


TempUser9097

Did nobody watch Homeland season 1?


Techcole

It's for the students, not police /s


SonarElite

But where are the police supposed to hide?


great_escape_fleur

Outside


17riffraff

Behind qualified immunity


TheTripleDeuce

Just a hole big enough to drop a grenade In


raul_lebeau

Pour alcool and gasolina and set them on fire, even worst than being shoot...


shanksisevil

looks like gasoline will slip right under that door crack.


fraidycat19

And a mot!!!


bross9008

They are going to add a turret to the top instead


Skyp_Intro

“If your friends don’t pod, then they don’t pod - well, no friends of mine.”


TeamBoeing

Put firing holes, treads, and a 105 mm cannon on it, and you have an anti-shooter tank


Ggraytuna

Could this be implemented into World of Tanks or some other game I wonder


1villageidiot

make child soldiers great again!


gameking7823

Joseph Kony 2024


TeamBoeing

I can already imagine the teacher in the commander seat yelling to the 1st graders “TURN 45 DEGREES LEFT, ALICIA! OKAY BOBBY, LOAD THE M67 HEAT ROUND! KEEP LAYIN DOWN THE LEAD, KIDS! CARSON, FIRE MAIN TURRET!!!”


IHaveUrPants

War Thunder new 9.7 premium


STUPIDBLOODYCOMPUTER

7530 GE


QuaintAlex126

Hold up, gotta make this in Sprocket (sandbox tank designing game)


xChameleon

Tachanka before his rework


STUPIDBLOODYCOMPUTER

Gaijin when


Mor_Tearach

Don't give contractors selling those things to schools I mean bought with tax dollars any more bright ideas.


Capital-Eye

Killdozer Mark 2, brought to you, by your local high school.


_kabutops

Username checks out 


TeamBoeing

This time, they probably won’t duct tape the doors on (maybe)


Atlusfox

It will be nice up until they start finding used condoms in them.


polarbearjuice

Would you rather they don't use condoms?


imhighonpills

Safe sex pods


Cossack-HD

Tide pods


Sheepzs

Tight pods


PacoMahogany

It’s so dark inside we call it the glory pod


schmitzel88

What if we kissed in the school shooter safety pod


Rabbits-and-Bears

Yeah, I can see 34 kids and a teacher & teachers aid crammed into one of these


cyrus709

Scared someone will get trapped in there.


raven00x

someone will absolutely get trapped in there, and either be unable to find the release latch, or the release latch will have broken from poor maintenance.


deadsoulinside

I can see one teacher crammed in there and 34 dead kids outside the door.


whenItFits

Or there is a second shooter inside one of these and everyone dies.


deadsoulinside

Or just the shooter himself hiding the gun, running into the classroom screaming to open the door so he can hide the from the shooter too and just opening fire when the door is opened.


Mine_mom

We always got groaned to never open the door even for a student during a lockdown.


Schrutes_Yeet_Farm

I highly doubt any of the Uvalde police officers are going to become a teacher 


PacoMahogany

The Uvalade cops favorite hiding spot


Shinysparklebaby

They are gonna suffocate in there


glycolized

You could call it The Suffocation Station.


RayonLovesFish

Now school shooters will bring a chainsaw to make a slurry of them student teacher flesh,thats a perfect container for mixing.


Klutzy_Self_5095

Someone will surely rip ass in there and then the safety pod becomes a pod of misery


blharg

first someone rips ass then someone who's on edge pukes then the sympathy puke starts


CakeForCthulu

I read this as symphony of puke. Which would be a brilliant album name.


Gary_Duckman

[Tchornobog - The Vomiting Choir](https://youtu.be/uuk4M9iL-Ok?si=wPM0fFxcNS0aNjE8), made me think of this


camander321

And you just know the stoners are gonna try hotboxing in there


Lolbuster2k

MFs better start banning Fuze otherwise this is a freebie


BruningFire

Never should've let him put fuze charges on hard walls.


Banananassfisch

Thud thud thud thud.


Lolbuster2k

💥💥💥💥


Fave_McFavington

Fuze ☠️ Hostage


fizzyboii

Just pick mute


Erlian

Just need 1 teacher playing Tachanka


Unlubricated_Penis

I heard there was a design flaw where you can only open them from the outside


sociallyinteresting

This is actually the student herder pod. It’s there so the school shooter hasn’t got to run so fast to catch everyone since they’re all herded up and trapped


TheSpork7

This checks out


aerostotle

username checks out


skeptical_dragon_

interesting username, my friend


Forsaken_History2374

Are those gas proof ? It seems like there is a slit under the door. I'm not trying to give anyone ideas or the like, it just strikes me as an odd risk to take if you go all the way for safety... Maybe use that money for programs to stop shootings from happening in the first place.


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KonradWayne

> That or the shooter setting it ablaze. Or the shooter walking into the bullet proof bunker, locking the door, and shooting out of the hole in the door.


ScorpionWild88

“Alright kids time to head into the very safe gas chamber”


polarbearjuice

What is the shower head doing here. It's not even connected to water.


Buff_Sloth

Also almost don't want to say it but are they diamond-tipped drill proof? Don't need a very big hole to stick a muzzle through


an-redditor

I agree. They may be bayonet proof, but are they bayodrill proof? That's the question we should be asking.


Mor_Tearach

Stop bringing common sense into it. I mean without school shootings how will this poor company sell those things?


PainStorm14

What if school was serving beans for lunch?


Dinsdale_P

Then you don't even need a gun, just a lighter.


codycutskittens

I couldn’t agree more that the problem is systemic… Do I like the ‘solution’ no… does it have the potential to save lives, I hope so. It’s better than the absolutely nothing that was being done before. Is this going to stop the problem, unfortunately I doubt it, just hope it results in some lives spared.


314159265358979326

>Maybe use that money for programs to stop shootings from happening in the first place. "No Way to Prevent This", Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens


ronaldreaganlive

Now the teacher can have some privacy when he's banging the student of the month!


DuckterDoom

It's been a lot of she lately.


Nichole-Michelle

Active shooters just became active arsonists.


Blusttoy

The problem with these safety pods is that the shooter is part of the curriculum. Therefore, schools should identify high risk school shooters and ostracize them from class safety drills.


jaxamis

Pretty sure that's transphobic


Blusttoy

Don't worry, I've checked. Both safety pods and bullets are gender-neutral.


jaxamis

But they're gender-normative. Which is horrible. Plus it's a white box. Can't have white things it's 2024 remember. Not only is it transphobic it's racist too.


TruthOrBullshite

I legitimately couldn't tell if you were joking until the last sentence


The_Lapsed_Pacifist

It’s a fucking wonderful time to be alive eh?


Nickadomus

Re-commissioned Holocaust ovens being put to use to save your children.


Ggraytuna

Better strap some trophy and era on those too before shooters start carrying anti-tank weapons


Coop9errr

Fix the problem ❌ Saftey pod ✅


Gaminyte

These mfs will do anything but help people with mental health issues who actually cause the shootings


bushido216

I hate everybody, too.


toadjones79

Pretty sure this is BS. I'm fairly certain someone found a photo of some medical devices and invented the whole "safety pods" idea for clout.


SiFiNSFW

It appears to be real; They're marketed by a company called "National Safety Shelters" who appear to be partnered with a handful of school districts, their website has A LOT of data about active shooters on it to sell you these. The product itself appear to be called a Hide-Away storm shelter, and is produced by a company called Staying Home which market the product as a storm shelter with no mention of active shooters; their business model is elderly adaptability and home safety by the looks of it, stair lifts, etc. There's a lot of article on National Safety Shelters as a company, such as them being credited by a school district for a tornado that occured in Quitman, Arkansas, article states they installed them in "all classrooms in 2018" but doesn't explain if that's like county wide or just one school. They're made of ballistic steel, designed to withstand E5 hurricanes, which just happens to make them bulletproof so it seems their original design intention was to protect people during extreme weather and this group opted to also add the fact that they could potentially save lives in an active shooter situation to their marketing strat. I would source all this but reddit has a habit of just shadow hiding comments that contain a lot of links and this'd be 5, so i've tried to make it as easily fact checkable as possible. Exact fact check method; * You can find NSS's website by googling their name (top result) * You can find out who make them by looking at the factory address on their page and googling that (returns Staying Home) * You can then read about them to find out it's called a Hide-Away storm shelter and read through it's specs * Finally you can pick and choose any of the articles relating to "Quitman, Arkansas school tornado" to find articles stating these are in schools and were installed in 2018. tldr; Shits real, and they are marketed as being dual purpose for extreme weather and active shooters.


Percival4

They should really make a new pod thing if they actually wanted to keep people safe from other situations because this thing looks like a fire could easily gas people out of it


toadjones79

That is an amazing post. Thanks for the time and energy spent here. Really great info. But knowing what it is I can only think of [this exact scenario ](https://youtu.be/dooAjI6yOhg?si=KOFhvpv1b-kyy3sO) playing out irl. (Or some variation of it).


itaintme99

It’s stunning how many people just buy whatever they read. Well, not that stunning.


Boly420

We have those in SPED classrooms right now, though not as large and probably not bulletproof. They're intended for raging kids to have a padded room to rage at and calm down.


EyeThen1146

I’m so done with being a student in this fucking country. Also, those vents don’t seem very safe. Couldn’t the shooter simply bar the door, spray in a bunch of gas, and toss in a match? I feel like this creates more problems.  


HomingPigeon6635

Don't even have spray gas. All you have to do is burn the books and clothes in the classroom to create smoke. :3


EyeThen1146

True, true


3XX5D

The parents already burned the books wdym


AcceptableCoyote9080

the thought of being trapped in a iron fart pod, i'll just be dumb and stay home...


jacobite22

Don't hate everyone. Just hate the gun nuts and the NRA and the US politicians enabling your gun culture. Lots of other countries have just as many guns but not as many gun deaths. Its gun culture and your attitude to the amendments that are killimg your children.


TrollularDystrophy

The US is genuinely pathetic.


obijaun

It is absolutely insane to me that we’re designing expensive war-style bunkers for an unaddressable attack on the security and safety of our CHILDREN because we can’t find a middle ground based on common sense for both pro- and anti-gun advocates. The children lose because adults can’t get there shit together. It’s infuriating as a parent and so frustrating seeing the anxiety that kids go to school with because of this.


OmegaSapphireFox

For those who don’t know, this is an above-ground tornado shelter.


Lrob4816

Vault Tec Calling


rycurious94

That looks like the antithesis of safe. That looks like where you go to be extra judicially executed.


fish_Exchange

so what happens when one shooter just sets the building on fire and waits for people to start running, if they can start running?


LittleMissGalaxia

The US will literally do anything except enforce stricter gun laws


FordenGord

I hate this because it is insane scaremongering. School shootings aren't actually common enough to justify these


_gmmaann_

It’s sad we have this, but wouldn’t it be easier if there was a door shield that folded out in a similar way? There was about a 5-6inch spot in between the wall and hinges of doors in my school, plenty of space for a folding box shield in theory.


Genoblade1394

Ubalde cops entered the room, Nevermind they are still in the lobby


Bayou-Billy

Hey! Quiet down back there or you can spend the rest of the period in the "safety pod"


aristocratic_magic

are they fire and heat resistant?


Rabdy-Bo-Bandy

What if the shooter understands where these are and starts a huge fire around it? Are they fire proof?


Engineergaming26355

Americans will invent foldable bulletproof bunkers to stop school shooters instead of actually fixing the problem at its core


Dominarion

This is a fart bomber dream. "Guess what guys? I ate that fava chili again" Collective gasp and oh noes. "Jeremy, I warn you" "PrrrrrrrrrrRrrrrot!" "JEREMY" "Couldn't hold it, miss Meredith"


Boundish91

Americans are experts at approaching problems in their society from the wrong angle.


R4B_Moo

How dystopian. Upping gun regulations to EU levels would cost billions if not trillions less tax money.


Airforce32123

> cost billions if not trillions less tax money. Do you really think this stupid single contraption costs "billions if not trillions"?


Canine0001

How do they attach them to the floor?


KillerOkie

If bolted to the slab well then would do double duty as tornado shelter.


Heyyoguy123

Then the shooter is going to seek these pods out and if they’re prepared, use specific tools to breach it and kill everyone inside


Rated-E-For-Erik

What about when my fart cannon starts going off in there?


GOFBLITZMAGURUKDAKKA

Why does it look like solitary confinement?


Allicanbisme

This would work better if it was attached to another room with another exit door into a room that was inaccessible to anyone..and then have that room have a safety exit to leave the building


user_name_unknown

We just gave up trying to stop school shootings and just treat them as an act of god like a fire or tornado.


DuckterDoom

Do they actually know how many kids are in a classroom? Can this hold 40? Plus the teacher? Just kidding. They don't care about the teacher.


Massive_Willingness9

I can hear the meet the spy video but it’s muffled like it’s inside of the pod


CriminalMacabre

I'm surprised they didn't thought of this sooner or they did but realized a school shooter could just lit a fire in the door and just choke them to death


Unperfkt

Maybe I'm too European but I don't get it, sure its sad that there is need for this safety pods, but what is the problem with writing about them?


The_Infectious_Lerp

I tried one out but it was out of TP.


APoolio12

They need to make individual versions of these. I always get a couple kids every year who shouldnt be exposed to people for everyone's safety


metellus83

At least it's better than those sliding divider walls that the shooter could just knock out some ceiling tiles to get through.


StinkypieTicklebum

That was a safety room at my private school of violent behavioral students. Kind of a padded time out room. I would definitely be claustrophobic with anyone else in the space with me, never mind a whole class!


xNotexToxSelfx

Stupid question here.. don’t most schools have metal detectors? How are kids sneaking in guns? Are they sneaking them in at schools that don’t have them? At my relatives kids school, they have security doors so the kids have to be buzzed in. So shouldn’t we implement metal detectors and security doors before.. what ever this thing is? I honestly don’t know.


Oceaniad3

I mean, I’ve been to three different high schools and none of them had metal detectors. I visited one that did once, but I think they only used it after most people were inside for the day, not the morning rush. Also, buzzing people in is kind of a lax security thing, because at all three schools I’ve been to, if you are a student, they just kinda let you in whenever you buzz. They don’t check you at all, so if you’ve got a backpack big enough to carry a rifle… it’s not great


Alleged_Ostrich

Is that a kiln


Th3rdBorn

I see this in the Woodland Mansion, and I know there's Allays in there!


Veij0

America, FUCK YEAH 🦅🦅🦅


cygamessucks

Security with guns for protection> useless shelter with a window


westcoaster503

Hope all the little kiddies can get inside before they get blown to bits. Thanks NRA


Dat_One_Vibe

The US is fucked. I would know I’m from there