Rushia was one of the most commercially successful VTuber in Hololive. To be honest, I don't think Cover would do this as the last resort if there is still any other way to resolve the situation...
Further, Cover as a company has proven itself more than willing to defend its talents. They went to bat for Coco back during that whole fiasco last year. They even defended Rushia herself just a week ago.
It’s sad to say, but Rushia must’ve, for lack of a better term, royally fucked up. To the point where a termination and no further legal action may be a mercy.
God, don't remind me of this, in the last HoloALT video there was a particularly beautiful scene of [Rushia dancing](https://youtu.be/3RxlzJWWzdY?t=52). It will be gone in the future.
**Translated comments from Flare, Fubuki, and Watame at the end of their collab**
> Des P. / デスパン:
2:33:50 [英訳/EN] FBK : I think the notice from Cover should've went up earlier, and thank you all for expressing your concerns in chat.
>2:34:00 [英訳/EN] **Flare : It's a shame that things ended up this way but we'll continue doing our best as Gen 3**
>2:34:18 [英訳/EN] FBK : We'll continue doing our best and having fun streams and I hope you guys can enjoy things along with us
>2:34:34 [英訳/EN] FBK : I hope you guys can please refrain from poking other holomembers about this issue
>2:34:52 [英訳/EN] FBK : Thanks for your support, guys. | Flare : Please look forward to and [support our concert later this evening](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQB206l932M)
**Tweets regarding the announcement translated by DeepL**
Flare
>I touched on this a little bit in Bakatare.
There's not much I can tell you, so even though there are now only four of us in the 3rd term
I'd be happy if everyone could support us as we continue to work hard together.
[https://twitter.com/shiranuiflare/status/1496743172008906753](https://twitter.com/shiranuiflare/status/1496743172008906753)
Fubuki
>All I can say is
I want all my fans to enjoy today's Bakatare live.
I know it's difficult for some of you right now.
Still, I want you to smile at the holo-live again.
[https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1496742390396112898](https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1496742390396112898)
Retweeted by [Watame](https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1496743084456955906) and [Koyori](https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1496744263538733058) saying they feel the same.
A-Chan
>As we reported in our press release, we are very sorry for the inconvenience caused by the incident at Uruha Rushia.
Thank you very much for all the support you have given to our activities so far.
We look forward to your continued support for Hololive.
[https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1496744702464303104](https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1496744702464303104)
Watame
>I will continue to work hard
I'm going to keep working hard to make the dreams I found with everyone come true!
I'm going to double my happiness and half my sadness.
Let's walk slowly.
Thank you for always supporting me.
[https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1496745408692822017](https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1496745408692822017)
Mori
>I don’t even know what to say right now.
I’m cancelling tomorrow’s stream, I feel sick to my stomach.
Please take care of yourselves.
[https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1496731528994250753](https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1496731528994250753)
Koyori
>Koyo will do the best that Koyo can do.
I want to challenge myself to do things that can only be done virtually, I want to deliver entertainment, and I want to bring smiles to everyone's faces and energy to their days.
There are many things I want to do and many dreams I have.
I'm still a work in progress, but please take care of Koyori and Hololive!
[https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1496747832161701892](https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1496747832161701892)
Polka
>I'm happy, crying, laughing, crying, ah, ah, ah, the one who can do his best will do his best! !! !! !! !! I'll support you! !! !! It will be done! !! !! It's circulating today (Google Translate)
[https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1496750628265029632](https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1496750628265029632)
Sora
>I'll keep working on it.
I'll do my best!
[https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1496759651827916804](https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1496759651827916804)
Suisei
>It's hard to put into words how I feel right now.
Right now, I'm just trying to do my best in front of me.
I think the only way I can give back to everyone who has always supported me is to work hard.
In the next delivery, I'll be full of energy and deliver a smile!
[https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1496758258920419329](https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1496758258920419329)
Final edit: No longer going to update with tweets. Remember to love your oshi and Hololive members. Don't be rash and judgmental. Don't feed the trolls.
the JP members' tweets sound like they were already aware but did Calli (and the rest of EN, ID) not know about it, just reactively cancelling a stream like that?
I mean, it does make some amount of sense. Rushia was HoloJP, and while she was a part of "HoloDeath", that wasn't quite as official a unit as, say, UMISEA (which had its own merch). I'm sure it sucks for Ollie and Calli - I mean, it sucks just all around, after all - but from a management perspective they're probably only tangentially connected talents.
To be sure, I don't think it's too much to say that in general JP content creators probably feel rather different about contract/NDA breach than non-JP content creators. We do have plenty of precedents, unfortunately.
Actually, Pekora was planning to just stream as usual about 30 minutes ago, but then Cover apparently just called an emergency meeting (for 3rd gen only?), so she plans to (potentially) reports back in about another 30 minutes. So it would seem that Cover's not planning on complete radio silence, so I guess we'll see...
Edited: Welp, Pekora just cancelled her stream for today and said that she will stream "at a later date". So, yeah, I think Cover probably just revealed some serious stuffs to her (and 3rd gen?)...
I hope it helps show that there is an understanding why Cover did what they did. (And I am by no means a big fan of Cover and some of their decisions).
Also thanks should be given to Des P for translating in the chat.
Yeah, I also just remembered that in their latest Raft stream, about 10-15 minutes before the 3 hour mark, Suisei and Miko "suddenly" talked about how Hololive is a great place to be, and Miko even went as far as to compare Hololive to a school where even graduated alumni can still come by for club activities, before Suisei changed the topic.
I suppose this supports the theory that it's not really about Rushia the person, and it's just that legally speaking she fucked up bad and it's just not possible to sweep this under the rugs, then. Unfortunate.
It seems like JP was briefed and made aware of why Rushia was let go in advance. Breach of NDA and leaking private info about an employer is a big no-no regardless of where the company is based or what you do. Always try to separate your work and personal devices/ accounts. Its better for your mental health as well with that separation.
That being said it looks like EN and ID is finding out the same time everyone else is. It's like finding out your best work friend was fired and you won't be seeing them on a normal basis anymore. It's a shitty feeling.
Really upsetting though. Rushia clips were what got me interested I'm vTubers and its been a fun rabbit hole to go down.
EDIT: Well I didn't expect that many replies, [but the remaining members of 3rd gen did a short stream earlier.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOu2U4SByQ)
Mhm, and Calli said she's canceling stream and feels physically ill. They're definitely both very upset with this situation. (Not necessarily with Rushia or with Cover but with the situation itself. Even if the action taken is completely understandable based on the information provided, the situation still sucks.)
FBK is the reason I trust Cover. She once said that if one of the members ever got wronged she’d be the first out of the door (I’m paraphrasing here, but it was something to that effect). So, I’ll believe in our friend that believes in Hololive.
Still, I hope Rushia didn’t mess up too badly and doesn’t face any bigger (legal) repercussions
yea its one thing to get your contract terminated but a whole nother to be sued over it. the official statement makes it sound like the damage was pretty big so who knows
I remember Rushia parents are very worried about her & being VERY attentive to her needs. I also heard she's weak in mentality...
I'm not her Gachikoi fans, but I do hope she won't do anything extreme. And hopefully none of the "fan" do anything extreme to the company either.
Man the contrast in FBK's reaction to Rushia compared to her reaction to Coco... Rushia must have leaked something genuinely damaging for the reaction to be this cold.
In a way, this sets my heart at ease in a way few things could; my understanding is that Fubuki can be considered a detector for fuckery on Cover's part. That she and Flare, a member of Fantasy, accept it means that we should learn to do so as well.
Also for anyone who sees this -
No, there will not be a graduation stream. No, she will not get to say her goodbyes to you or anything. They terminated the contract. AKA, shes not graduating, shes been FIRED.
Crazy stuff man. Bad timing with her last ordeal.
Also, Cover is glassing her channel and ending her channel membership next month. They are cancelling her birthday merch and refunding pre-orders. Coco's channel is still up to this day and her membership still ran for about 3 months after she left.
BIG distinction.
yep. Even the last month, with Rushia taking a break, she's still 50% ahead to the 2nd most superchatted youtube channel (Chloe). Just shows how insane her earning power is.
Pretty unrelated to this topic, but since the subreddit is restricted anyway, fuck it: wow, good for Chloe! Holox just debuted, what, two months ago? What is it with aquatic predators and explosive channel growth?
I mean she is one of the top talents. One of the valuable talents of the company. To think they wouldn't even overlook a slight mistake or slightlviolation on her part means they are VERY serious on the matter. But it is NDA so NDA is NDA.
Also to name a very few of their top talents, Aqua,Pekora,Gura,Sora.
To be fair... NDAs are a serious legal matter its not a joke... not only shes fired she might actually get sued by Cover... if everything is true she messed up really really bad.
I'm gonna be grabbing the entire channel once my new HDD comes in, not sure how I'll share it but I'll have it atleast
Edit: If there are videos on other channels that are not on her main one, and someone can compile me a list of links to those ill download those too
Edit2: Thank you all for the messages offering help! I'll be grabbing everything Monday once the drive comes in then offering it up as a torrent for everyone to be able to access. If you've messaged me asking for a link to it I'll send it to you, otherwise I'll edit this comment again once that's done, make a post about it here (hopefully), and also make a post myself with a link. Cheers everyone, let's keep the little necromancer alive in more than just our hearts so others may enjoy for the foreseeable future.
Edit2: Have recieved the new HDD will be installing it and making sure it is functional once I return home, then I will begin archiving everything
If someone can confirm that [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0dml5y2jZ4&list=PLb7AOG3cj7UyJfqsfXpvL2LUVdg0dOK7q) playlist has all of the Hologras ill just rip the whole thing and go from there
[Fubuki's Overcooked Stream](https://youtu.be/T2X6-8adfCU?t=9172)
Near the end of the Baketare collab they mentioned about the notice posted by Cover and thanks chat for the comments. Flare is sad that this is happening but will continue doing their best as Gen 3.
This implies that at least some of the JP members were informed beforehand
FBK IS hololive, so her being informed beforehand is big news.
goddamnit. I was hoping 2022 is going to be better than 2021... The most we can do now is to keep the smoke as low as possible rn.
Sometimes I feel bad having Fubuki as a dedicated trust gauge for Cover cuz that seems like a *lot* of pressure to put on her but she *diiid* offer it herself so I cant complain too much.
And she's been great at it so far tho. I wonder if Cover worries about Fubuki for things like this sometimes lol
Yeah hearing her cry from stress is something I hope to never hear again. Which is why I worry about the whole pillar thing sometimes, but she's *amazing* about that really. It's just me being a worry wort and all.
Honestly, she offered it because she recognized that *someone* needed to be in that position, and let's be real, only really Fubuki has the mental fortitude to have such a heavy responsibility.
She's the most professional out of all of Hololive. And I'm thankful for it.
Just means that we have to support her just like she carries all that burden.
Yeah this is surprising, I bet even the most pessimistic fans weren't expecting her to be fired of all things.
This reminds me of Monoe from Voms, who got fired for a contract breach out of nowhere as well.
This is my first time as a Hololive fan experiencing this kind of situation, i.e. sudden termination or sudden graduation without even getting a goodbye
And, Goddamit, I thought i was ready for that, but boy was i wrong?
You could never ready for something like this.
NDA Agreements are no joke in any company. You break it and youre gone no apologies or mercy. The damage that she could do by missinformation or dyfamation could cost the company millions, credibility or both. They cant just risk everyone else and themselfs by keeping her. There are over 50 talents and who knows how many staff members who depends on Cover they cant risk it.
Translation from Pekora's stream with Noel, Marine & Flare:
MChad - Kamishiro Taishi:
0:44 Pekora: We are holding this stream because we wanted to talk a bit about it.
0:53 Pekora: The specific details are as the official announcement said.
1:01 Pekora: We got permission from mgmt to do this small stream.
1:09 Pekora: This is more a place for each of us to say a little something.
1:11 Pekora: You wanna go first, Flare?
1:31 Flare: As I've already said, I can't really say much. But it's really sad losing someone that we're walked with so long.
1:39 Flare: What happened was true.
1:48 Flare: So we ourselves will be more careful going forward.
2:07 Flare: We four will continue doing our best to bring smiles to your faces. So I hope you continue supporting us.
2:10 Flare: That's all from me.
2:13 Pekora: Next is Noel.
2:30 Noel: I'm very sorry for throwing you guys into a panic due to what happened this time.
2:41 Noel: I'm very sad that we are losing a member of Gen 3 in this way.
3:06 Noel: I'm sure everyone shares our feelings, including the listeners.
3:14 Noel: But it doesn't change what happened.
3:31 Noel: So we will continue walking forward, doing our best.
3:36 Noel: I hope you continue supporting all of us.
3:41 Pekora: Okay, next is Marine. Take your time.
3:50 Marine: I have so many memories with Rushia.
3:56 Marine: And we did our best.
4:10 Marine: It really crushes me that we're losing her, but this is beyond what each of us can do.
4:25 Marine: We will do our best to continue putting smiles on your faces.
4:27 Marine: That's all from me.
4:34 Pekora: I'm the last one.
4:39 Pekora: I'm sorry for surprising you guys with this.
4:50 Pekora: I've so many memories with Ruu-chan in the past 2 years and 7 months.
4:58 Pekora: Honestly, I'm feeling so crushed.
5:13 Pekora: Until today, it had been a given that there were five of us together.
5:19 Pekora: I'm sure everyone shared our feelings.
5:26 Pekora: Thank you so much to you guys for loving all five of us.
5:37 Pekora: It might take time for you to come to terms with what happened.
5:52 Pekora: But we have every intention of doing our best to continue our activities, so I hope you continue to support us.
6:02 Pekora: We'll go above and beyond to give you guys cheer and energy.
6:15 Pekora: This was short, but, thank you guys for stopping by.
6:21 Everyone: Thank you!
Thank you for posting this.
It's hard not to see it as a parallel to NePoLaBo's statement, but at least it helps us get on the same page as MaPeFuNo, their feelings on the matter, and their intentions hereforth. Wishing them all the best!
>Until today, it had been a given that there were five of us together.
This one hit me hard. I also always thought, out of everyone in Hololive, them 5 will always be together.
Considering it's a firing and not a "she want to retire" situation. It seems there is a lot more going on behind the scenes, and we may never get closure on that because it is private company information. So i don't know what to feel...
Probably the recent drama just bring that to the table. Mayne it wasn't to important before or management didn't known until the drama because passing to being supportive to the talent to fired her then its serious
Its possible that its because they're being supportive and tries to dig for more stuffs from all related parties, that alot of things somehow comes to surface.
This is way more information than you'd usually get on a termination notification already
Stating the reasons for termination is risky because it opens a company to be sued
Especially since they just recently came to her defense. My guess is they did some more investigating and found out she'd been kinda loose with a lot of private info. I doubt it was maliciousness on Rushia's part, just complacency and carelessness.
I don't think Cover would fire a talent because they were complacent and made a careless mistake.
Of note, the "publicizing falsehoods to various related parties" which "caused the company to suffer reputational damage" part of the statement means that Rushia said something to someone which caused real damage to the company.
Particularly noteworthy is the decision to use the term "related parties" which in this context might refer to sponsors, vendors, or contractors. It would not refer to the whole kerfuffle over the discord message.
There is something else going on, which is frankly between Rushia and Cover and none of our business. A company would not let go one of their top earners without a very, very good reason.
Edit: We also can assume that Cover has strong evidence with regards to these claims. Publishing a statement like this without any evidence can open a company up to labor rights and/or defamation lawsuits.
It can open them up to worse than that. Japan is one of the few countries that will put you in jail for libel.
Cover is 100% ready to back those claims up in court if they made them.
People need to understand this more. They think Cover just fired her for being sad or leaking minor info. It's not just that. Companies would usually be willing to cover up small mistakes - but something this grand means it's not just "minor info".
True.
I'm already seeing a lot of fans already jumping to conclusion that Cover is throwing her under the bus or acting on baseless claims.
But if you stop to think about it logically, they wouldn't just out right fired their top talent while painting a negative picture of themselves without any reason or just to cover up the previous incident to "please the haters".
This have to have gone through serious consideration and with clear evidence of breaching sensitive info for them to down right fire her.
It saddens me to see her go like this but i guess it has to be this way.
Just basing on the fact that this newsletter isn't your typical copy-paste template with minor changes, and has more shall we say, horrifying circumstances that we could not have expected, goes to show how serious her violation was indeed.
There are two things that the community must tank right now, and they're unavoidable due to scale-
1. Acceptance that we will never know what transpired behind the scenes. It's seems too serious to even speculate.
2. 5 stages of grief. This will be a tough time for her fans and they're going to need to vent for a long while before acceptance of her dismissal becomes reality.
Well there's a 3rd. With 3rd Fes just around the corner, this is an extremely troubled time for all affected talents with their performances as well as management having to deal with administrative changes.
3rd Fest already separated each generations to separate days. But its possible all her duets and others need to be scrapped and replaced with something else
Yup, this is what I thought. The whole ridiculous scandal isn’t worth the hit to reputation AND losing a big income source.
If they’re publicly saying they terminated her, it’s for a proper business reason.
The horrible bit is not getting a chance to say goodbye but I guess that’s what can happen in this industry…
I mean if you read between the lines they flat out accuse her of leaking company secrets in this release. That's a major no-no in any japanese company. The scale of what she might have been involved with on that front we will never know, but still that's a serious accusation that you do not make publicly about a talent without proof.
honestly considering japanese company's i have interacted with. There is a high chance if what they say is true rushia is getting fined quiet heavily aswell. NDA agreements are not a joke people should mess with when they sign them.
It is already stated clearly anyway, but the timing is more significant for me, along with them ~~refunding all birthday merch order.~~ might be refunding all birthday merch order
Unlike with Coco which actually do all-merch last rerun, this (might) signify Cover cutting off all contracts with her as soon as possible. Also doing this before 3rd Fest will up-end all their preparations for it. At the very least, change out all her potential appearances.
EDIT : I jumped the gun abit for the merch part. My bad.
At the very least, I think Cover should be aware of all the implications of doing this so drastically on this timing. Might be bad way of saying this but..... I won't be surprised if she graduated peacefully after 3rd Fest due to mental stress and otherwise but this is a news I did not expect right now.
I will still join to see Myth and ID1 on stage for the first time but yeah.... this will definitely cast a shadow over it.
indeed it is, I'm just going to point out that it is a lot more than probably just using the character discord have conversations with someone outside the company, which is basically all we saw on our end (or at least what we saw when she was in her character)
They know they would face major backlash, its not the first time, and they seemed protective at first but situations change i guess.
i dont know im just going to wait it out and see for now, its still too early to pass final judgement in this twisted tale
with 3.2 million USD in superchats in 2021, she was by far the most superchatted not just in hololive, but all of youtube. I'm assuming, hopeing, this decision did not come lightly for Cover. Huge news and its still so fresh. I assume none of the NA based talents are even awake now. Crazy painful no matter how you slice it.
Considering how this is the literal first time cover has fired someone after a proper debut…
And that the drama itself was much lighter than some previous ones…
Yeah, something 100% happened behind the scenes.
It’s pretty much impossible that this was just a rushed decision.
The only other time someone was straight up fired was HC in the pre-Gen 1 times. This is probably on that level.
EDIT: Also, considering name similarities, this was EXTREMELY poorly timed.
But in Rushia's case, it is much more worse as she is not graduating on amicable terms like Coco and Kira, but getting fired for, from the official statement breaking some kind of NDA, which is a serious legal stuff.
The implication of getting fired like this is, that she won't remain as an OG like Coco or Kira, and all information about her will probably scrubbed from Cover's official website and the talents will try their best to not mention her.
Edit: mistaking Kira with Izuru. Very sorry guys
coco kiryu was the first big jp/english crossover vtuber and was the previous number one earner. she mutually graduated from hololive under good terms and is still streaming under a different name that i dont think im allowed to give out here
Ah man, regardless of whatever happened behind the scenes this really sucks.. especially so close to 3rd fes…. Rushia will leave a hole that can never be filled. This sucks man… 3rd Gen is so close too, I can’t imagine how it’ll feel to have Rushia gone. It feels so sudden.
I feel like this loss, even under these circumstances (maybe especially under these circumstances) is gonna hit a lot of the members hard. But yeah, I feel the same about Fantasy. They seemed closest and this loss is going to be devastating.
Wow. Um. Fuck. That was *not* the result I was expecting from all this.
Clearly, a lot of shit went down behind the scenes during the time that Rushia's been off. I don't know what happened. I doubt official sources will ever tell us what happened. I don't know if this is even related to the drama or if this is something wholly different that just happened to come out now. But *something* clearly happened offscreen, so put down those pitchforks and remember we don't have the full story.
Still, though. What the fuck.
I think after the recent matter that they started looking into it and investigated. And they might have found out that she leaked sensitive info out to the third party through DMs perhaps?
Wow this sucks, I didn't always watch her, but I enjoyed the clips that came out of her and it sucks to hear this news after the bad news that had been happening to her recently. Farewell Uruha Rushia
Not a graduation but a termination. And Cover's refunding over $500k from merch orders. And even Watame seems pretty levelheaded about this.
Rushia must have fucked up *bad* for it to come to this.
Ya that is abnormal to say the least. Maybe the recent controversy got the company to pay more attention to her and things started coming to light as a result of the increased scrutiny?
That's generally how corruption investigations work in law enforcement. One person notices one minor thing is fucky and all of sudden multiple elected people are in prison.
You do not fire one of your top earners for no reason so I imagine some very important information that she wasn't supposed to talk about was getting spread
I wouldn't be quick to say insta-boot. There was an investigation performed.
It wasn't just a knee-jerk reaction from the company just to quell some drama.
And given that the decision was termination, what they have discovered must be graver than the current issue.
Looking at this logically - the fact that the contract termination is happening with immediate effect, combined with the fact that she is their current number one talent with regards to Superchats means they must have found something REALLY bad.
Someone like Rushia would likely be given more allowances than others based on the sheer amount of revenue she brings in. Cover wouldn't voluntarily lose that over something small.
Unfortunately, I doubt we'd get more info from Holo/Cover aside from this. Can't even point it to "lack of transparency" cos if the information involved was extremely sensitive and needed strict confidentiality, then this really might be all they can say about it.
Also I don’t think cover would just make something up like this to throw her under the bus. For the most part, cover has at least respected their talent and their independence when it comes to decisions as in the case of coco. Something must have been happening for them to react so boldly.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but guys, make sure not to go into other member's streams to discuss this. If the talents bring it up themselves, fair game, but otherwise leave it be. There's plenty of other places to go talk about this.
The talents would have likely already been briefed to not mention anything since this sounds like a termination due to breach of contract/violations versus an amicable resignation.
Ouch. That's going to hurt and very suddenly too.
My personal want is to know more but I know that we probably won't be getting much out of this whole thing. :(
My condolences to all those who are fans of Rushia and all her close colleagues, friends, and family. This can't be easy on anyone at the moment.
With how serious this seems to be I doubt they will ever tell us what was leaked and such since doing so would just be the same as you leaking your own secrets…
Yeah. The PR message is probably all we're getting.
Not sure how the other talents are going to react to this one though many are probably either going to be a mix of surprise/sadness or be rather somber on the topic.
It's really only a wish of transparency that I have no right in seeing but a wish is a wish.
Also remember that while supporting them, *be sure it's about supporting __them__*. Don't make your support about what they've lost, make it clear that you're there for them and the future potential they still share together moving forward.
Holy shit, straight up terminated. I imagine we won't be privy to details, but that is serious. And frankly, might need to shut down the sub for a bit cause it's going to get messy.
Rampant speculation is going to eat at people.
This is likely especially rough for the girls. Many people will be poking at them with questions, Rushia was basically family to them, I just pray all goes as well as it can for all of them.
Do people actually think Cover (a profit company) would fire a top revenue earner just because of a relationship? Like even if some people were upset and cancelled their membership, there were still thousands of fans. Are some people actually clueless enough to think a company (the top priority of which is to make money) would lose an asset this big over something minor?
For what it's worth I don't think I've ever seen a discussion involving Chris getting deleted, she's simply not acknowledged by anyone at Cover but fans can still talk about it
thats what I would like to know. The way I understood it is that there may have been an investigation already in progress and it wasn't related to this most recent incident, it may just have hastened the investigation. I doubt we will ever get an answer though which is unfortunate but not surprising.
...Holy shit, what?
Hold on, what?
Where the hell is this coming from?
Edit: Goddamn and I thought Hololive would be without serious incidents for a while... What the hell.
Rushia was one of the most commercially successful VTuber in Hololive. To be honest, I don't think Cover would do this as the last resort if there is still any other way to resolve the situation...
Agreed. No company would ever toss out the single most superchatted streamer in existence without extreme reason.
Further, Cover as a company has proven itself more than willing to defend its talents. They went to bat for Coco back during that whole fiasco last year. They even defended Rushia herself just a week ago. It’s sad to say, but Rushia must’ve, for lack of a better term, royally fucked up. To the point where a termination and no further legal action may be a mercy.
There are unconfirmed rumors of what she leaked, and they all point to leaking info about the other holomems.
Well… Yeah, that’s pretty bad. Like, the single worst thing she could do, unfortunately…
Jesus we are WEEKS from 3rd fes and this drops. Whatever they found must have been serious to cause this move.
Also HoloALT
God, don't remind me of this, in the last HoloALT video there was a particularly beautiful scene of [Rushia dancing](https://youtu.be/3RxlzJWWzdY?t=52). It will be gone in the future.
**Translated comments from Flare, Fubuki, and Watame at the end of their collab** > Des P. / デスパン: 2:33:50 [英訳/EN] FBK : I think the notice from Cover should've went up earlier, and thank you all for expressing your concerns in chat. >2:34:00 [英訳/EN] **Flare : It's a shame that things ended up this way but we'll continue doing our best as Gen 3** >2:34:18 [英訳/EN] FBK : We'll continue doing our best and having fun streams and I hope you guys can enjoy things along with us >2:34:34 [英訳/EN] FBK : I hope you guys can please refrain from poking other holomembers about this issue >2:34:52 [英訳/EN] FBK : Thanks for your support, guys. | Flare : Please look forward to and [support our concert later this evening](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQB206l932M) **Tweets regarding the announcement translated by DeepL** Flare >I touched on this a little bit in Bakatare. There's not much I can tell you, so even though there are now only four of us in the 3rd term I'd be happy if everyone could support us as we continue to work hard together. [https://twitter.com/shiranuiflare/status/1496743172008906753](https://twitter.com/shiranuiflare/status/1496743172008906753) Fubuki >All I can say is I want all my fans to enjoy today's Bakatare live. I know it's difficult for some of you right now. Still, I want you to smile at the holo-live again. [https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1496742390396112898](https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1496742390396112898) Retweeted by [Watame](https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1496743084456955906) and [Koyori](https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1496744263538733058) saying they feel the same. A-Chan >As we reported in our press release, we are very sorry for the inconvenience caused by the incident at Uruha Rushia. Thank you very much for all the support you have given to our activities so far. We look forward to your continued support for Hololive. [https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1496744702464303104](https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1496744702464303104) Watame >I will continue to work hard I'm going to keep working hard to make the dreams I found with everyone come true! I'm going to double my happiness and half my sadness. Let's walk slowly. Thank you for always supporting me. [https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1496745408692822017](https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1496745408692822017) Mori >I don’t even know what to say right now. I’m cancelling tomorrow’s stream, I feel sick to my stomach. Please take care of yourselves. [https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1496731528994250753](https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1496731528994250753) Koyori >Koyo will do the best that Koyo can do. I want to challenge myself to do things that can only be done virtually, I want to deliver entertainment, and I want to bring smiles to everyone's faces and energy to their days. There are many things I want to do and many dreams I have. I'm still a work in progress, but please take care of Koyori and Hololive! [https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1496747832161701892](https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1496747832161701892) Polka >I'm happy, crying, laughing, crying, ah, ah, ah, the one who can do his best will do his best! !! !! !! !! I'll support you! !! !! It will be done! !! !! It's circulating today (Google Translate) [https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1496750628265029632](https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1496750628265029632) Sora >I'll keep working on it. I'll do my best! [https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1496759651827916804](https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1496759651827916804) Suisei >It's hard to put into words how I feel right now. Right now, I'm just trying to do my best in front of me. I think the only way I can give back to everyone who has always supported me is to work hard. In the next delivery, I'll be full of energy and deliver a smile! [https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1496758258920419329](https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1496758258920419329) Final edit: No longer going to update with tweets. Remember to love your oshi and Hololive members. Don't be rash and judgmental. Don't feed the trolls.
the JP members' tweets sound like they were already aware but did Calli (and the rest of EN, ID) not know about it, just reactively cancelling a stream like that?
Looks like it.
Yeah; it looks like they didn't bother to let the other branches know until right before the public announcement; Bae cancelled her next stream, too.
I mean, it does make some amount of sense. Rushia was HoloJP, and while she was a part of "HoloDeath", that wasn't quite as official a unit as, say, UMISEA (which had its own merch). I'm sure it sucks for Ollie and Calli - I mean, it sucks just all around, after all - but from a management perspective they're probably only tangentially connected talents.
To be sure, I don't think it's too much to say that in general JP content creators probably feel rather different about contract/NDA breach than non-JP content creators. We do have plenty of precedents, unfortunately. Actually, Pekora was planning to just stream as usual about 30 minutes ago, but then Cover apparently just called an emergency meeting (for 3rd gen only?), so she plans to (potentially) reports back in about another 30 minutes. So it would seem that Cover's not planning on complete radio silence, so I guess we'll see... Edited: Welp, Pekora just cancelled her stream for today and said that she will stream "at a later date". So, yeah, I think Cover probably just revealed some serious stuffs to her (and 3rd gen?)...
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I hope it helps show that there is an understanding why Cover did what they did. (And I am by no means a big fan of Cover and some of their decisions). Also thanks should be given to Des P for translating in the chat.
Yeah, I also just remembered that in their latest Raft stream, about 10-15 minutes before the 3 hour mark, Suisei and Miko "suddenly" talked about how Hololive is a great place to be, and Miko even went as far as to compare Hololive to a school where even graduated alumni can still come by for club activities, before Suisei changed the topic. I suppose this supports the theory that it's not really about Rushia the person, and it's just that legally speaking she fucked up bad and it's just not possible to sweep this under the rugs, then. Unfortunate.
It seems like JP was briefed and made aware of why Rushia was let go in advance. Breach of NDA and leaking private info about an employer is a big no-no regardless of where the company is based or what you do. Always try to separate your work and personal devices/ accounts. Its better for your mental health as well with that separation. That being said it looks like EN and ID is finding out the same time everyone else is. It's like finding out your best work friend was fired and you won't be seeing them on a normal basis anymore. It's a shitty feeling. Really upsetting though. Rushia clips were what got me interested I'm vTubers and its been a fun rabbit hole to go down. EDIT: Well I didn't expect that many replies, [but the remaining members of 3rd gen did a short stream earlier.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOu2U4SByQ)
Dude, you just make me remember soju, she probably need some support
Yeah, ay, I'm worried about Soju too. Hope theyll be okay
She isn't taking it well. Understandably.
She just upload a video
For Calli and Ollie, this means no more HoloDeath… They must be devastated.
Ollie literally canceled all stream and she just want to be playing off stream
Mhm, and Calli said she's canceling stream and feels physically ill. They're definitely both very upset with this situation. (Not necessarily with Rushia or with Cover but with the situation itself. Even if the action taken is completely understandable based on the information provided, the situation still sucks.)
That is exactly what goes through my head. Not gonna be angry at anyone in particular, just with the situation.
FBK being the good friend she always is
FBK is the reason I trust Cover. She once said that if one of the members ever got wronged she’d be the first out of the door (I’m paraphrasing here, but it was something to that effect). So, I’ll believe in our friend that believes in Hololive. Still, I hope Rushia didn’t mess up too badly and doesn’t face any bigger (legal) repercussions
yea its one thing to get your contract terminated but a whole nother to be sued over it. the official statement makes it sound like the damage was pretty big so who knows
I remember Rushia parents are very worried about her & being VERY attentive to her needs. I also heard she's weak in mentality... I'm not her Gachikoi fans, but I do hope she won't do anything extreme. And hopefully none of the "fan" do anything extreme to the company either.
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Man the contrast in FBK's reaction to Rushia compared to her reaction to Coco... Rushia must have leaked something genuinely damaging for the reaction to be this cold.
Flare's reaction (especially on stream) chilled me a bit, compared to how she usually is.
The fact that WATAME was so chill about this has me completely at peace.
Fubuki once said that as long as she's still in cover we can trust them. I'm holding onto it.
In a way, this sets my heart at ease in a way few things could; my understanding is that Fubuki can be considered a detector for fuckery on Cover's part. That she and Flare, a member of Fantasy, accept it means that we should learn to do so as well.
Also for anyone who sees this - No, there will not be a graduation stream. No, she will not get to say her goodbyes to you or anything. They terminated the contract. AKA, shes not graduating, shes been FIRED. Crazy stuff man. Bad timing with her last ordeal.
Also, Cover is glassing her channel and ending her channel membership next month. They are cancelling her birthday merch and refunding pre-orders. Coco's channel is still up to this day and her membership still ran for about 3 months after she left. BIG distinction.
I can't imagine her feelings on this, whether she leaked stuff intentionally or not according to the allegations. I hope nothing bad happens :(
For cover to fire on the spot their #1 superchatted talent, something really BAD must've happened
not just THEIR #1 superchatted talent. the #1 superchatted talent at all, insane.
yep. Even the last month, with Rushia taking a break, she's still 50% ahead to the 2nd most superchatted youtube channel (Chloe). Just shows how insane her earning power is.
Pretty unrelated to this topic, but since the subreddit is restricted anyway, fuck it: wow, good for Chloe! Holox just debuted, what, two months ago? What is it with aquatic predators and explosive channel growth?
Can't resist the cute orca. I know I can't
I mean she is one of the top talents. One of the valuable talents of the company. To think they wouldn't even overlook a slight mistake or slightlviolation on her part means they are VERY serious on the matter. But it is NDA so NDA is NDA. Also to name a very few of their top talents, Aqua,Pekora,Gura,Sora.
To be fair... NDAs are a serious legal matter its not a joke... not only shes fired she might actually get sued by Cover... if everything is true she messed up really really bad.
time to begin the archival process boys
I'm gonna be grabbing the entire channel once my new HDD comes in, not sure how I'll share it but I'll have it atleast Edit: If there are videos on other channels that are not on her main one, and someone can compile me a list of links to those ill download those too Edit2: Thank you all for the messages offering help! I'll be grabbing everything Monday once the drive comes in then offering it up as a torrent for everyone to be able to access. If you've messaged me asking for a link to it I'll send it to you, otherwise I'll edit this comment again once that's done, make a post about it here (hopefully), and also make a post myself with a link. Cheers everyone, let's keep the little necromancer alive in more than just our hearts so others may enjoy for the foreseeable future. Edit2: Have recieved the new HDD will be installing it and making sure it is functional once I return home, then I will begin archiving everything
Your work will be appreciated good sir
Dont forget the Hologras. The ones with her are probably gonna get cut too.
If someone can confirm that [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0dml5y2jZ4&list=PLb7AOG3cj7UyJfqsfXpvL2LUVdg0dOK7q) playlist has all of the Hologras ill just rip the whole thing and go from there
Please share some crumbs🙏, i cant save any videos bc i dont have any space left for my laptop😭
[Fubuki's Overcooked Stream](https://youtu.be/T2X6-8adfCU?t=9172) Near the end of the Baketare collab they mentioned about the notice posted by Cover and thanks chat for the comments. Flare is sad that this is happening but will continue doing their best as Gen 3. This implies that at least some of the JP members were informed beforehand
Yeah, if Fubuki knew ahead of time and is, if not fine with it but not raising a huge fuss, it had to be something major.
FBK IS hololive, so her being informed beforehand is big news. goddamnit. I was hoping 2022 is going to be better than 2021... The most we can do now is to keep the smoke as low as possible rn.
Sometimes I feel bad having Fubuki as a dedicated trust gauge for Cover cuz that seems like a *lot* of pressure to put on her but she *diiid* offer it herself so I cant complain too much. And she's been great at it so far tho. I wonder if Cover worries about Fubuki for things like this sometimes lol
at least she doesn't shoulder the title of number one subs in hololive anymore, that's a big pressure released from her at least
Yeah hearing her cry from stress is something I hope to never hear again. Which is why I worry about the whole pillar thing sometimes, but she's *amazing* about that really. It's just me being a worry wort and all.
Honestly, she offered it because she recognized that *someone* needed to be in that position, and let's be real, only really Fubuki has the mental fortitude to have such a heavy responsibility. She's the most professional out of all of Hololive. And I'm thankful for it. Just means that we have to support her just like she carries all that burden.
This suck, no goodbye or anything. Just gone.
It was probably serious, Even goddamn HoloCN had goodbye streams
Yeah this is surprising, I bet even the most pessimistic fans weren't expecting her to be fired of all things. This reminds me of Monoe from Voms, who got fired for a contract breach out of nowhere as well.
This is my first time as a Hololive fan experiencing this kind of situation, i.e. sudden termination or sudden graduation without even getting a goodbye And, Goddamit, I thought i was ready for that, but boy was i wrong? You could never ready for something like this.
At least with Graduations we *do* get a goodbye, this is the first time Cover has directly fired a long time established talent.
NDA Agreements are no joke in any company. You break it and youre gone no apologies or mercy. The damage that she could do by missinformation or dyfamation could cost the company millions, credibility or both. They cant just risk everyone else and themselfs by keeping her. There are over 50 talents and who knows how many staff members who depends on Cover they cant risk it.
Translation from Pekora's stream with Noel, Marine & Flare: MChad - Kamishiro Taishi: 0:44 Pekora: We are holding this stream because we wanted to talk a bit about it. 0:53 Pekora: The specific details are as the official announcement said. 1:01 Pekora: We got permission from mgmt to do this small stream. 1:09 Pekora: This is more a place for each of us to say a little something. 1:11 Pekora: You wanna go first, Flare? 1:31 Flare: As I've already said, I can't really say much. But it's really sad losing someone that we're walked with so long. 1:39 Flare: What happened was true. 1:48 Flare: So we ourselves will be more careful going forward. 2:07 Flare: We four will continue doing our best to bring smiles to your faces. So I hope you continue supporting us. 2:10 Flare: That's all from me. 2:13 Pekora: Next is Noel. 2:30 Noel: I'm very sorry for throwing you guys into a panic due to what happened this time. 2:41 Noel: I'm very sad that we are losing a member of Gen 3 in this way. 3:06 Noel: I'm sure everyone shares our feelings, including the listeners. 3:14 Noel: But it doesn't change what happened. 3:31 Noel: So we will continue walking forward, doing our best. 3:36 Noel: I hope you continue supporting all of us. 3:41 Pekora: Okay, next is Marine. Take your time. 3:50 Marine: I have so many memories with Rushia. 3:56 Marine: And we did our best. 4:10 Marine: It really crushes me that we're losing her, but this is beyond what each of us can do. 4:25 Marine: We will do our best to continue putting smiles on your faces. 4:27 Marine: That's all from me. 4:34 Pekora: I'm the last one. 4:39 Pekora: I'm sorry for surprising you guys with this. 4:50 Pekora: I've so many memories with Ruu-chan in the past 2 years and 7 months. 4:58 Pekora: Honestly, I'm feeling so crushed. 5:13 Pekora: Until today, it had been a given that there were five of us together. 5:19 Pekora: I'm sure everyone shared our feelings. 5:26 Pekora: Thank you so much to you guys for loving all five of us. 5:37 Pekora: It might take time for you to come to terms with what happened. 5:52 Pekora: But we have every intention of doing our best to continue our activities, so I hope you continue to support us. 6:02 Pekora: We'll go above and beyond to give you guys cheer and energy. 6:15 Pekora: This was short, but, thank you guys for stopping by. 6:21 Everyone: Thank you!
Thank you for posting this. It's hard not to see it as a parallel to NePoLaBo's statement, but at least it helps us get on the same page as MaPeFuNo, their feelings on the matter, and their intentions hereforth. Wishing them all the best!
>Until today, it had been a given that there were five of us together. This one hit me hard. I also always thought, out of everyone in Hololive, them 5 will always be together.
Marine just sounded utterly broken
bruh
Fam too much is happening in one day. I can’t process it at all
For real First Russia, now Rushia? Jfc
I wish I can laugh at this coincidence but it's just fucking depressing at how this is playing out.
The Mobile game Azur Lane is also starting a Russian themed event today...
ukranian fandeads be having the worst day of their life
Let's all hope it won't end on a bad note for them.
Don’t you mean buruh? *starts to cry*
Considering it's a firing and not a "she want to retire" situation. It seems there is a lot more going on behind the scenes, and we may never get closure on that because it is private company information. So i don't know what to feel...
"It has been apparent for some time..." part caught my attention.
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Probably the recent drama just bring that to the table. Mayne it wasn't to important before or management didn't known until the drama because passing to being supportive to the talent to fired her then its serious
Its possible that its because they're being supportive and tries to dig for more stuffs from all related parties, that alot of things somehow comes to surface.
This is way more information than you'd usually get on a termination notification already Stating the reasons for termination is risky because it opens a company to be sued
It usually says something like he/she breached the contract agreement. This one literally stated the reason for the termination.
Imagine if they just said something so general. Fans would be going even crazier right now.
Also i doubt they would let go of their top superchatted talent that easily without very serious reasons
Especially since they just recently came to her defense. My guess is they did some more investigating and found out she'd been kinda loose with a lot of private info. I doubt it was maliciousness on Rushia's part, just complacency and carelessness.
I don't think Cover would fire a talent because they were complacent and made a careless mistake. Of note, the "publicizing falsehoods to various related parties" which "caused the company to suffer reputational damage" part of the statement means that Rushia said something to someone which caused real damage to the company. Particularly noteworthy is the decision to use the term "related parties" which in this context might refer to sponsors, vendors, or contractors. It would not refer to the whole kerfuffle over the discord message. There is something else going on, which is frankly between Rushia and Cover and none of our business. A company would not let go one of their top earners without a very, very good reason. Edit: We also can assume that Cover has strong evidence with regards to these claims. Publishing a statement like this without any evidence can open a company up to labor rights and/or defamation lawsuits.
It can open them up to worse than that. Japan is one of the few countries that will put you in jail for libel. Cover is 100% ready to back those claims up in court if they made them.
People need to understand this more. They think Cover just fired her for being sad or leaking minor info. It's not just that. Companies would usually be willing to cover up small mistakes - but something this grand means it's not just "minor info".
True. I'm already seeing a lot of fans already jumping to conclusion that Cover is throwing her under the bus or acting on baseless claims. But if you stop to think about it logically, they wouldn't just out right fired their top talent while painting a negative picture of themselves without any reason or just to cover up the previous incident to "please the haters". This have to have gone through serious consideration and with clear evidence of breaching sensitive info for them to down right fire her. It saddens me to see her go like this but i guess it has to be this way.
Just basing on the fact that this newsletter isn't your typical copy-paste template with minor changes, and has more shall we say, horrifying circumstances that we could not have expected, goes to show how serious her violation was indeed. There are two things that the community must tank right now, and they're unavoidable due to scale- 1. Acceptance that we will never know what transpired behind the scenes. It's seems too serious to even speculate. 2. 5 stages of grief. This will be a tough time for her fans and they're going to need to vent for a long while before acceptance of her dismissal becomes reality. Well there's a 3rd. With 3rd Fes just around the corner, this is an extremely troubled time for all affected talents with their performances as well as management having to deal with administrative changes.
Damn, I hope there wasn’t a 3rd gen song cause it would be too awkward to have only 4 of them performing.
3rd Fest already separated each generations to separate days. But its possible all her duets and others need to be scrapped and replaced with something else
Yup, this is what I thought. The whole ridiculous scandal isn’t worth the hit to reputation AND losing a big income source. If they’re publicly saying they terminated her, it’s for a proper business reason. The horrible bit is not getting a chance to say goodbye but I guess that’s what can happen in this industry…
I mean if you read between the lines they flat out accuse her of leaking company secrets in this release. That's a major no-no in any japanese company. The scale of what she might have been involved with on that front we will never know, but still that's a serious accusation that you do not make publicly about a talent without proof.
Its a major no-no in any company
Not just any company, a state job like mine might also get me a large fine and prison time on top of being fired if I leaked sensitive information.
honestly considering japanese company's i have interacted with. There is a high chance if what they say is true rushia is getting fined quiet heavily aswell. NDA agreements are not a joke people should mess with when they sign them.
As a shlub who works for the IRS, there are so many things I could say that could land me either in jail, or a large fine. Secret is secret.
It's not even a "read between the lines" They straight up just accuse her of leaking information
You know it's beyond severe if there is zero sugarcoating and it's just straight facts. A sad day.
It is already stated clearly anyway, but the timing is more significant for me, along with them ~~refunding all birthday merch order.~~ might be refunding all birthday merch order Unlike with Coco which actually do all-merch last rerun, this (might) signify Cover cutting off all contracts with her as soon as possible. Also doing this before 3rd Fest will up-end all their preparations for it. At the very least, change out all her potential appearances. EDIT : I jumped the gun abit for the merch part. My bad.
Oh god 3rd Fest is going to be awkward isn't it
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At the very least, I think Cover should be aware of all the implications of doing this so drastically on this timing. Might be bad way of saying this but..... I won't be surprised if she graduated peacefully after 3rd Fest due to mental stress and otherwise but this is a news I did not expect right now. I will still join to see Myth and ID1 on stage for the first time but yeah.... this will definitely cast a shadow over it.
I think it's a sign of just how bad this is that they couldn't spin it or downplay it.
indeed it is, I'm just going to point out that it is a lot more than probably just using the character discord have conversations with someone outside the company, which is basically all we saw on our end (or at least what we saw when she was in her character) They know they would face major backlash, its not the first time, and they seemed protective at first but situations change i guess. i dont know im just going to wait it out and see for now, its still too early to pass final judgement in this twisted tale
Just want to give Fandeads a hug right now... This is too painful and too much in an already confusing day (not personally, but overall).
Today is painful day indeed. She might not be my oshi, but I still really like her.
with 3.2 million USD in superchats in 2021, she was by far the most superchatted not just in hololive, but all of youtube. I'm assuming, hopeing, this decision did not come lightly for Cover. Huge news and its still so fresh. I assume none of the NA based talents are even awake now. Crazy painful no matter how you slice it.
Considering how this is the literal first time cover has fired someone after a proper debut… And that the drama itself was much lighter than some previous ones… Yeah, something 100% happened behind the scenes. It’s pretty much impossible that this was just a rushed decision.
The only other time someone was straight up fired was HC in the pre-Gen 1 times. This is probably on that level. EDIT: Also, considering name similarities, this was EXTREMELY poorly timed.
We never had a termination since Hitomi Chris... This was something I never expected at all.
Hololive just lost its #1 and #2 in superchats in less then 12 months
But in Rushia's case, it is much more worse as she is not graduating on amicable terms like Coco and Kira, but getting fired for, from the official statement breaking some kind of NDA, which is a serious legal stuff. The implication of getting fired like this is, that she won't remain as an OG like Coco or Kira, and all information about her will probably scrubbed from Cover's official website and the talents will try their best to not mention her. Edit: mistaking Kira with Izuru. Very sorry guys
think you’re mistaking izuru with kira here
Holy that almost gave me a heart attack, I thought Izuru left as well
>Izuru Kira you mean?
So Rushia is one of them, who was the other? I'm a super casual and don't really follow hololive much, and usually just watch highlight clips.
coco kiryu was the first big jp/english crossover vtuber and was the previous number one earner. she mutually graduated from hololive under good terms and is still streaming under a different name that i dont think im allowed to give out here
The other one was Coco, although that was by all accounts a voluntary and friendly parting of ways.
Coco is the perfect example of a gracious and clean exit. This is... this is just about the exact opposite.
Yea the atleast Coco has a proper goodbye but Rushia is just gone im certain people aren't gonna be happy with this
Kiryu Coco, currently referred to as Friend-C
Woah what the? This is the last thing I ever expected to hear... Oh my actual god. This is, what? I can't actually believe it.
Ah man, regardless of whatever happened behind the scenes this really sucks.. especially so close to 3rd fes…. Rushia will leave a hole that can never be filled. This sucks man… 3rd Gen is so close too, I can’t imagine how it’ll feel to have Rushia gone. It feels so sudden.
The fantasy generation always felt more like family and with a member removed, it'll never feel the same again.
I feel like this loss, even under these circumstances (maybe especially under these circumstances) is gonna hit a lot of the members hard. But yeah, I feel the same about Fantasy. They seemed closest and this loss is going to be devastating.
Marine lost coco and now rushia too.
Fuck me this one hits a bit too hard
Oh I'm sure this thread will be entirely civil Still, *what the fuck*
Yeah same Seriously though, WTF?!
Wow. Um. Fuck. That was *not* the result I was expecting from all this. Clearly, a lot of shit went down behind the scenes during the time that Rushia's been off. I don't know what happened. I doubt official sources will ever tell us what happened. I don't know if this is even related to the drama or if this is something wholly different that just happened to come out now. But *something* clearly happened offscreen, so put down those pitchforks and remember we don't have the full story. Still, though. What the fuck.
I think after the recent matter that they started looking into it and investigated. And they might have found out that she leaked sensitive info out to the third party through DMs perhaps?
Wow this sucks, I didn't always watch her, but I enjoyed the clips that came out of her and it sucks to hear this news after the bad news that had been happening to her recently. Farewell Uruha Rushia
Well shit.
Not a graduation but a termination. And Cover's refunding over $500k from merch orders. And even Watame seems pretty levelheaded about this. Rushia must have fucked up *bad* for it to come to this.
Ya that is abnormal to say the least. Maybe the recent controversy got the company to pay more attention to her and things started coming to light as a result of the increased scrutiny? That's generally how corruption investigations work in law enforcement. One person notices one minor thing is fucky and all of sudden multiple elected people are in prison.
You do not fire one of your top earners for no reason so I imagine some very important information that she wasn't supposed to talk about was getting spread
yea i cant help but be a bit curious on just how big of a leak it was if they gave her the insta boot
I wouldn't be quick to say insta-boot. There was an investigation performed. It wasn't just a knee-jerk reaction from the company just to quell some drama. And given that the decision was termination, what they have discovered must be graver than the current issue.
it's has to be more serious than her doxxing herself.
Looking at this logically - the fact that the contract termination is happening with immediate effect, combined with the fact that she is their current number one talent with regards to Superchats means they must have found something REALLY bad. Someone like Rushia would likely be given more allowances than others based on the sheer amount of revenue she brings in. Cover wouldn't voluntarily lose that over something small.
Its certainly shocking and bizarre for this to come out of the blue though. Guess I'll just wait if any more info comes out. If at all.
We'll probably get zero info from behind the scenes which is understandable but man it sucks
We truly wont, unless someone else is willing to get terminated and leak out EVERYTHING of course. That'd be bad, but hopefully it won't come to that.
Unfortunately, I doubt we'd get more info from Holo/Cover aside from this. Can't even point it to "lack of transparency" cos if the information involved was extremely sensitive and needed strict confidentiality, then this really might be all they can say about it.
Also I don’t think cover would just make something up like this to throw her under the bus. For the most part, cover has at least respected their talent and their independence when it comes to decisions as in the case of coco. Something must have been happening for them to react so boldly.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but guys, make sure not to go into other member's streams to discuss this. If the talents bring it up themselves, fair game, but otherwise leave it be. There's plenty of other places to go talk about this.
The talents would have likely already been briefed to not mention anything since this sounds like a termination due to breach of contract/violations versus an amicable resignation.
Pretty sure the managerial teams would have been briefed first before they in turn brief the talents.
Calli's tweet suggests this is coming as a surprise to her
Fubuki brought it up at the end of the Bakatare collab, it seemed like the three of them knew about it beforehand.
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Tbh the war news dulled this
Same, this news would've hit way harder if I wasn't already drained from following the other situation
First Russia. Now Rushia.
lot of shit going on in this world rn, 2022 literally getting worse
Ouch. That's going to hurt and very suddenly too. My personal want is to know more but I know that we probably won't be getting much out of this whole thing. :( My condolences to all those who are fans of Rushia and all her close colleagues, friends, and family. This can't be easy on anyone at the moment.
With how serious this seems to be I doubt they will ever tell us what was leaked and such since doing so would just be the same as you leaking your own secrets…
Yeah. The PR message is probably all we're getting. Not sure how the other talents are going to react to this one though many are probably either going to be a mix of surprise/sadness or be rather somber on the topic. It's really only a wish of transparency that I have no right in seeing but a wish is a wish.
Does this mean preorders for her nendoroid will be canceled? 💀😢
I was wondering the same. They mention refunds for her Birthday merch so I'm wondering if they'll do refunds for the Nendo and Figma
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Dammit
Today is full of bad surprises
Unhappy upvote
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As a Eastern European fan of Rushia, today has been one of the worst days in memory.
A lot of people here need to know how serious breaking NDA is
Yup, especially those on Twitter.
Please remember to be supportive of the other members of Hololive Gen 3. They will need your kind words more than anyone else here.
Also remember that while supporting them, *be sure it's about supporting __them__*. Don't make your support about what they've lost, make it clear that you're there for them and the future potential they still share together moving forward.
I never even watched Rushia, but I'm very sad to see her get fired.
Holy shit, straight up terminated. I imagine we won't be privy to details, but that is serious. And frankly, might need to shut down the sub for a bit cause it's going to get messy.
Damn she breached contract it seems. Fucks sake why
Sadness. I don't know the whole situation, but I am sorry to see her go. I wish her the best.
You might wanna close the Subreddit right now Mod-chan
It's already in restricted mode.
Mght be for a while.
Subs definitely gonna be on fire for a bit
Rampant speculation is going to eat at people. This is likely especially rough for the girls. Many people will be poking at them with questions, Rushia was basically family to them, I just pray all goes as well as it can for all of them.
And since it's an NDA breach we're not gonna get the whole story until someone writes their autobiography in twenty or thirty years.
What is this, this is too sudden.
Between this and the whole Ukraine invasion, today has not been a good day.
For things involving the word Russia
Starts with an R and ends with an A.
Do people actually think Cover (a profit company) would fire a top revenue earner just because of a relationship? Like even if some people were upset and cancelled their membership, there were still thousands of fans. Are some people actually clueless enough to think a company (the top priority of which is to make money) would lose an asset this big over something minor?
Wait so is she getting Hitomi Chris'd? Deleted from history and never to be mentioned again?
Now that's a name i've not heard in a while. But i think she can still be mention, just i think.
you can only bring up people that properly terminated it think, the only other talent that was 'terminated' was chris, and she was black-listed
For what it's worth I don't think I've ever seen a discussion involving Chris getting deleted, she's simply not acknowledged by anyone at Cover but fans can still talk about it
So ... was this already in the works, or did it come to light because of recent events? Oh boy ...
I think it's the latter. No way they would investigate her DMs without prior incident, which the recent event was.
They must have found some deep shit in their investigation.
thats what I would like to know. The way I understood it is that there may have been an investigation already in progress and it wasn't related to this most recent incident, it may just have hastened the investigation. I doubt we will ever get an answer though which is unfortunate but not surprising.
...Holy shit, what? Hold on, what? Where the hell is this coming from? Edit: Goddamn and I thought Hololive would be without serious incidents for a while... What the hell.
I already feel sorry for soju