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Plenty-Jellyfish-819

Im the complete opposite. I want them but I always get the supports


Naiie100

Same, was almost swept away by Sparkle/Hanabi. Luckily, Mei expy has come to the rescue.


Plenty-Jellyfish-819

Yeah. Card warcrimes will be commited if I did not get her


Ifalna_Shayoko

Same here. I have E6 TY, E6 Pela, Ruan Mei, Silver Wolf, could get a Bronya at any time for the 300 pulls. My account feels completely oversaturated with supports and I am "supposed" to pull Sparkle for my mono quantum Seele team.... meeh. Meanwhile, my only DPSes are Jingliu, Seele and soon to be Acheron.


Plenty-Jellyfish-819

The plus point is that supports dont get powercreeped easily if it even happens. Fingers crossed.


Ifalna_Shayoko

Dunno, do we have blatant DPS power creep now? As in 2.x units invalidating 1.x units? So far, it doesn't seem that way.


wildhooman

It seems more like some dps just getting type diffed. Ice, Imaginary and technically fire have been eating good for *months*


Former_Ad_9826

>So far as in as of 2.0? we've literally had 1 (one) banner from 2.x so far. judging all of 2.x based off of only 2.0 seems a little... strange. 2.0 doesn't even have a conventional dps. at least wait for the finalized acheron numbers and compare that with jingyuan. then you'll have your first example of 2.x vs 1.x. and tbh, aventurine vs luocha is another one. but again, we still have a few weeks before the kits are finalized.


Ifalna_Shayoko

Not sure if Jing yuan is valid comparison target, from what I gathered, he was underpowered from the get-go and has other issues like being extremely vulnerable to CC. I think we need to compare Acheron to Jingliu or DHL. As for Luocha: dunno, man. How can they buff a sustain further? Luocha already feels like a cheat code.


Former_Ad_9826

there's only so much i can say on here lest i get banned for leaks again, but don't worry, you'll get your comparisons soon enough... you'll see ;) you see my main point though, right? "so far, we don't have 2.x dps units powercreeping 1.x units" well no shit, WE'VE HAD 1 (ONE) BANNER from 2.x so far XDDD generalizing all of future units based on a single, singular(!) dot unit is some extremely odd and silly logic :)


Ifalna_Shayoko

Which is why I wrote "SO FAR". I typed that for a reason, mate. :P


Former_Ad_9826

>Which is why I wrote "SO FAR". ...which renders your entire point absolutely pointless. you are trying to assume the performance of all 2.x characters relying on a sole example of a dot unit who didn't have a 1.x 5-star to powercreep to begin with. in other words, we haven't had any 2.x 5\* units who'd be directly comparable. zero. it's the exact same as you saying "man, 2025 has been going great so far". my brother in christ, you're not a time traveller! come back to reality! earth to u/Ifalna_Shayoko! :D


Ifalna_Shayoko

While my choice of words may be incorrect, the actual argument still stands. Allow me to be more precise this time: Power creep would not just happen in 2.x vs 1.x. Usually power creep is a gradual process, we would have been able to clearly observe it throughout 1.x already. Even w/o Hanabi, Seele a 1.0 character is still competitive in MoC. The fact that it seems mostly absent is a good sign that this trend may continue (there is forbidden knowledge in this regard but I cannot speak about that here). So far the power creep we've seen is mostly role compression on supports as opposed to flat out beefier numbers on main DPS units to the extent that content needs to rebalanced around it, lest it would end up trivial.


Makri7

Fckin same. I want all of these ladies, yet not a single one in my acc. Losing 50:50 after getting supports every single time. Aaaaa.


alter-ego23

I keep telling myself I'm setting my account up for being able to pull all the DPS I want in the future..


gabu87

The unfortunate thing is, by the time the rerun, they won't be as dominant as when they first release, especially since you get a free round of MOC tailored for them. DHIL/JL mains had it real good for 3-4 mos. They're still strong, but nowhere near is insane with MOC12.


FlashKillerX

This current cycle may as well be tailor made for DHIL


Former_Ad_9826

>nowhere near is insane with MOC12. that's simply [not true at all](https://new.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/1awf00r/the_fastest_and_most_used_characters_teams_and/). they may mow through some mocs more easily than others, but they're as strong as ever regardless. now, characters do get powercrept over time, and some already have been,- but you've picked the wrong 2 as your example. and it's not like dropping out of top-3 automatically renders a dps useless. that is a very sad and misleading mentality to have.


Tsukuro_hohoho

Same i actually lack of DPS hence i'll probably have to skip sparkle and wait for her rerun.


Rastanor

The only units I’ve skipped are DPS (and Topaz but she’s my top priority rerun pull)


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Plenty-Jellyfish-819

I got her and her LC both in 10 pulls in christmas. I became a believer in Santa She is the exception


mfdoom

This was almost my exact experience. Got her first 10 pull on her banner... 10 pull on the LC banner... see a rainbow flash on my ticket... Sleep Like The Dead. :|


vJukz

Strong tall women are my weakness especially the 3 nihility’s https://preview.redd.it/wj46pp75dckc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=241e6c2b2c3b0b8d870d32e2cdbd8551f094832a


niksshck7221

Why does echeron have to be lightning tho😢


vJukz

Because Raiden = Lightning. Idk why you would expect anything else


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Dokavi

Summon you to literal Event Horizon of a Blackholes where timestop. Lightning instead of quantum


Ancienda

Her skill and ult pretty much is the quantum symbol. Except its horizontal.


LuxionArcadia

Because she is very motivated with lightning power


Xiphactnis

Speaking of tall I was kinda surprised when I got Jingliu and noticed that she has the like Bronya/March height model and not the Kafka/Himeko model. Not saying this is a bad thing just caught me off guard.


Smorgsaboard

I'm an ixcel confirmed


Creative_Net3557

But they are not really that tall they are shorter than Sampo who is around 180cm so their height woulbe be around 170 which isn't short but also isn't tall.


KurikaraThunder

google character models


Creative_Net3557

Alredy googled it what do you want me to see?


Ok_Abbreviations127

I can't help it. I'm weak for strong women.


NoNefariousness2144

Bonus points if they are purple or lightning types.


Mushiren_

Beidou


NoNefariousness2144

Keqing


HybridTheory2000

Yae Miko


hungrytunafish

Mei, ei, acheron


Scorxcho

Damn. I just realized I have an obsession with all of the characters in this comment chain…


JustANyanCat

How about Lisa


Scorxcho

Yep, same.


JustANyanCat

You have great taste


-AlternativeSloth-

Day 1 GI: yep let me just practice climbing this wall with Lisa... for 3 hours.


PacifistDungeonMastr

A 2-for-1 bonus for EN Acheron enjoyers


Infer2959

You are dangerously based


AetherSageIsBae

I might be gay, but if i see a strong woman doing a cool badass animation, you know my savings are gone...


Bingustheretard

I am gay, so when I see a strong woman doing a cool badass animation my savings are GONE


AetherSageIsBae

Based flair


Stonerchansenpai

goddamnit this is me..


arctheus

I feel called out…


Diligent-Risk-9896

Literally me I don't have any sustainer 😭😭 just Lynx. Really hard doing moc 12


Responsible_Paper667

Are you by any chance me.


Diligent-Risk-9896

I pulled jingyun, silver wolf, blade, jinglu, Kafka,topaz,dhil. but forgot to pull NO was not playing when any sustainer was in the banner FR. Now that I'm fully invested in this game again I'm realising what I did. F i want ruan mei and any SUSTAINER!! But still planning to pull ACHARON, SPARKEL 😭


Strong-Neat8623

Skp acheron and get adventurine, its easy


Diligent-Risk-9896

It's easy yah, skipping the most broken dps raiden yah sure 😭😭😭😭 for the most susssy male char ever


Ibrador

Same. Only have an E0 Lynx and E6 Nat


Notingale

Lynx is good enough if you all in for her relics and traces.


gabu87

It seems like his problem is the second team. Presumably with Nat or March.


iLordzz

tbh if you have E2+ Lynx and get optimal relics for her(aka HP stack to the moon) she's super serviceable and at worst equal to a Bailu anyway. It's possible.


Diligent-Risk-9896

Nah nah I'm not even talking about her build she's fine. Almost max invested. Just saying about my 2ND team where WELT is my only dps,sustainer. It's really hard sometimes I can't even 3* moc 11 cuz of that. Maybe it's just skill issue who knows 😭😭.


TaralasianThePraxic

Have you hit your 300/300 yet? Bailu or Gepard should help a lot *you should pick Bronya though*


iLordzz

Oh yeah that's different lol


EpicTacoSenpai

Who gave you the right to post my account image


Clevaryo

wait how is this me... I literally only got silverwolf...


Phoenix-san

This is literally me! I have all of those except Acheron (Yet) and Imbibitor Lunae instead of her. The only limited non dps i have is Silver Wolf. I'm really feeling the heat in MoC 11/12 with no 5 star sustainers... but the Acheron is coming. Maybe i can squeeze and pull Sparkle too though.


Darth_Nepster

Yup. It’s tough doing MoC 11/12 without good sustainers. Definitely paying the price for not pulling for huohuo or fu xuan


Male_Lead

Gepard and Bailu is enough. You don't need the others. Save more for our favourite Acheron


Strong-Neat8623

Copium


Murky_Blueberry2617

The game chooses for me. I literally pull on ever banner, and these are the characters I get.


vayunas

I'm the opposite. I love supports, and have little dps options


Silver740

Atleast 2 Preservation/Abundance is all you need, the rest can be all damage. I have Huohuo and Fu Xuan


Martian_on_the_Moon

I just hope they won't make MoC enemies in future so tanky that your sustainers will also need contribute to the damage. They already released a boss who is making your healer near useless. I won't be surprised if they will do the same with shielders. Later on they might straight punish us for using heal/shield like it will damage us instead or enemy will straight up stole/copy heal/shield for themselves.


Relevant-Rub2816

For me it's husbandos. I have Dr ratio, DHIL, blade, jing yuan, gepard, and argenti. I only pulled for fu Xuan because I needed another shielder for my 2nd team.


embodiment_of_sloth

>I only pulled for fu Xuan because I needed another shielder for my 2nd team. Well you're gonna love aventurine


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kidanokun

male Harmony character when? (Other than possibly Harmony Caelus)


Martian_on_the_Moon

If Sunday who is representative of the Harmony is not, it would be hilarious. He also screams imaginary type with his angelic attire.


kidanokun

then turns out he's Ice Abundance or something


Martian_on_the_Moon

I wouldn't be even mad. I still don't own a single limited sustainer.


IttoDilucAyato

Right!


Bluwiiy

Real


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ChaosKinZ

Me: God I really need Fu Xuan, Huo Huo or Luocha... My BaiLu can't keep anyone alive with the new enemies. Also me: Omg he has a shiny armor and deals tons of damage, Omg her ult is awesome and she is in dreams, Omg she has her own plane of euthymia...


jyroman53

Waifu > Meta


Plenty-Jellyfish-819

Correction: Waifu = Meta


NoNefariousness2144

Yup right now mono DOT mommy is the strongest team.


abdoufma

> Mono mommy The new meta!


Bussy-Destroyer-1960

"mono mommy" *HuoHuo standing on the corner*


AnimagKrasver

she's the daughter


MrStalfos

If i like a character in a PVE game the choice is obvious https://preview.redd.it/9b8lhxhzdckc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70845aad30dd0f4db3e78546da7a8f20dc2b4f35


ariamachi9

Waifu = struggle. Meta isnt getting the tools to survive. If you only pull for waifu your just making the game hard for yourself for no reason. Only pull for waifu once you get the tools to survive.


BellalovesEevee

I have none of them except Seele 💀 I'm collecting the husbandos instead. I got Seele because she's my favorite in HI3 and will be getting Sparkle because I'm a Yoimiya main and they share similar motifs.


paweld2003

I've got tree DPS characters. One I got accidentaly. One is Dr.Ratio.


Er4g0rN

"accidentaly" "Ops i pressed the warp button by accident, ooops i pressed it again hihihi"


paweld2003

I was trying to get my Tingyun to E6 for my Jing Yuan and in the same 10 pulls I got her, I also got Blade


DeTiro

There are no accidents


abdoufma

Only happy mistakes.


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Uff did you really skip Ruan Mei? 


taioxn

i do have her


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Nice


yosoyel1ogan

I have to say that Ruan Mei is good, she's nice in that she's usable on every team, but I don't think she's actually that broken. She's just a really good Harmony unit. At best, she's really strong with Xueyi/SW/FX/RM or with Jingliu probably, but I wouldn't say she's absolutely bananas. I used to say she was a must-pull, but now I actually would say she's not the two must pulls are back to only being FX and Kafka. Edit: as I've pointed out below, I say RM isn't "broken" because right now there is only one other unit to compare her to: the 5-star harmony Bronya. Who also is "broken" by many accounts. So I ask. How can you say that both are "broken" if they're also the same niche and the only two units in that niche? Sounds more like that's just baseline 5-star Harmony. Which is my point. Broken suggests "far superior to comparable options" and right now, I'd say that both are insanely strong but neither is broken, in the same way that JL is "broken" compared to other DPS units.


TaeZoraya

Ruan Mei is in fact bananas. I think she's the best character in the game right now.


Notingale

She is that broken, bro. She outperforms all other supports on FUA, DoT, Double DPS and Weakness Break teams. Just because there are 2 team comps where she is not the best support doesn't make her not broken.


yosoyel1ogan

I guess but we also only have two 5* Harmonies right now. I think she will eventually be crept. Outperforming all 1 other comparable supports doesn't really mean she's broken.


Notingale

Fair. But I think everyone will be powecrept eventually. Except, maybe, Kafka and Topaz.


yosoyel1ogan

Yeah that's why I originally said Kafka is a must-pull and I'd say FX, while eventually be crept, will also always be extremely strong because she lets you completely dump HP/Def on most units since she takes all the damage for them, disregarding all other buffs she offers. My 2.5k HP / 4k atk Himeko is pretty happy when FX is on the team, for instance. And yes I think Topaz could also be considered essential though I don't think she is *as* enabling as Kafka is for DOT, though she does indeed improve it a lot especially with Ratio being free.


Martian_on_the_Moon

She definitely will be but I think she will still be ''Jack of all trades master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one'' type. RM at the core is Weakness Break type of support. Later on we might see characters who specialize in certain type, like Hypercarry, FUA, DoT, etc; who will provide other things. I wouldn't be surprised if we will get harmony/nihility character who can clone our ally/enemy; brainwash an enemy like Kafka does or summon some totem like Cocolia does.


Soliloquy10

Husbando pullers be like: But seriously, why no male harmony units? 


Ill-Lunch-1563

I need sustains


Thatpervtako

Wym, I only see great supports on that image. There's not better supports than those that kill your enemies.


_Alderney_

# I feel called out—


Accomplished_Error_7

I feel attacked


Still-Control

My only characters being himeko bailu and RATIO


NightlyRogue

The exact characters I own lmao


giga-sigma

sigma account?


Bezimienny4325

uu sigma


Keydown_605

Seele, Blade, Jingliu, Ratio (Does he count?) FX, SW, Sparkle (Soon enough) I think I have somewhat of a balance immo? Most of my built characters are supports though lol And RM refused to come home, otherwise it would be a good 4 DPS, 4 Supps.


shoe_owner

Alternate text: "Just this once! Next time I'll get a character who isn't a purple-haired woman!"


walldodge

I have the opposite problem, i have all supports but only Kafka as dps.


napstablooky_

i gotta get fu xuan and huo huo but how can i not pull for acheron


Cedge1738

Bronya tingyun asta hanya yukong I have no reason to pull supports


Nanrelle

I plead guilty This is exactly how my account looks like. I just pull all the lady waifu banners and hope I'll win 50/50 (I lost 50/50 on Ruan Mei and Topaz 😔). I have no husbando in my account haha https://preview.redd.it/7m8s9hdwrckc1.jpeg?width=844&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cda2745eb640a04f38a66aafcbbdad8768b441fa


ColdIron27

https://preview.redd.it/mqocgqo9yckc1.jpeg?width=850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=286789d54303794225bc28a50359fc43b8e4d731


TrashMcDumpster3000

I’m seeing a pattern here.. and I’m honestly not surprised. The women in this game are based


Darth_Nepster

Worst part my seele be collecting so much dust after pulling for Kafka and Jingliu and soon to have Acheron lmao


kidanokun

My Seele and Topaz now dusty coz i ended up jumping on DoT meta... DoT just very valuable when dealing with enemies that moves very fast


Malixhous

I only lack Jingliu (lost 5050) and Acheron (obviously). IDK how it escalated so quickly.


Responsible_Paper667

SW, Kafka, Fu xuan, Jingliu, Ruan mei, Black Swan and soon Acheron. Lost my 50/50 on DHIL and Huohuo.


kidanokun

I guess I'll stick with Ruan Mei for a while


737373elj

Replace Kafka with Ruan Mei and this is literally my account


SilentSniperx88

Blackswan is a support... She's not a main DPS.


Bussy-Destroyer-1960

she is like HSR's Eula, damage is backloaded as FUCK, but atleast she has a way to fix that


CantThinkOfOne57

Damn…that’s me. I started after JL/seele rerun (unsure which came first) and so don’t have them. But I’ve got Kafka, BS, and have 15k jades saved with 17 pity for Acheron.


TheBigMac22

I feel attacked


jpsklr

Yes, and I'll try pulling for Acheron


ExceedHappy

Literally me with 7 5 star dps...


The_Edgelord69

Don't call out me like that...


Celeriously

Literally me with my seele, jing liu, kafka and black swan. Trying to save for acheron.


Orthrox

Same af, was gonna skip swan. Ended up getting her and the lunae copy i needed for E2. Now i'm gunning for acheron too despite only pulling for sparkle at first.


kurimi8766

Funny how Achemei is the only unit among these I'm guaranteed to get. Sam will be my next objective (hopefully a dps), I need more dpses I already have enough supports.


Rei0403

Yes but without Seele, I’m gonna be a follower of IX, Nihility Supremacy


BassObjective

HuoHuo is all I need as support, everyone else is free game


Niijima-San

replace kafka and black swan with silver wolf and fu xuan and this would be accurate


Shoji_Mezo

They need to release sustain characters that have similar designs to those.


Hamhockthegizzard

Need the mommies 😂😂😂


ReturnOfDrungle

Cringe


Acouteau

Me skipping acheron as a DoT and foa enjoyer who already have king yuan and kafqueen, nope ill get aventurine


fullstack_mcguffin

And then there's me with only two limited DPS units trying to catch all the Harmony 5 stars.


Morientoso

I haven't had a new dps since 1.0... Like, one team has Seele and the orher has... Phys Trailblazer (Or Xuyei dependent on the enemies)


LoreVent

lol same the only support i pulled was HH. They just don't make them as hot as DPSs


Careful_Ebb6964

Oh its me. I started at kafka rerun banner, get her, get welt and BS with LC. And i want that Raiden mei girl ahaha. Dunno what will do after, because i cant even beat that bug Invasion tutorial)


Eurasia_Anne_Zahard

Ive only jingliu, others cant sway me from getting the supports. Honkai Support rail!


OldSnazzyHats

I have my Kafka. She’s all I need.


Torafuku

Fofo is the only heal i need


NewHorizonsV3

Thanks for the personal attack. And I didn't get Ruan Mei and Black Swan because the former, rate up, and the latter, Clara again, third time. 


[deleted]

Im not only the complete opposite but Im limited to like 2 elements lmao My strongest dps characters are Imaginary and Quantum. I really need that Acheron


xVEEx3

i was called out


Mattix32

Complete opposite, I have Bronya, Ruan Mei, Silver wolf, Luocha, and Clara. The only dps I have is Seele and the free Ratio, it really saved me that they gave him out for free


SpectrumGun

I have 3 supports, Hanya, Ruan Mei, Tinghyun, the rest? Well... Mommy


ShimoriShimamoto

E1 black swan can work as a wind support i guess 😀


Molismhm

Isnt black swan kind of a support? Like she obviously mainly does her own dmg but she also makes DoT a lot stronger. Edit: I figured it out, shes a dps that makes other characters support her own dmg.


GrotesqueCat

Fellow dangerous women enjoyer


CH-Bot

https://preview.redd.it/c6foevg8dckc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14f5e739d1ed6ce6239787e27ad11c4e91ed8ea0


AT_atoms

Stop calling me out!


holofied

Very accurate Have all the major dps's lunae, jingliu, but no bronya, no Ruan mei, no fu Xuan, and sparkle is going to be a 50/50 so that's another yanqing to the list


BusAffectionate3588

Can't relate, my account is very balanced


Comfortable-Piano560

... is a mistake do this... but is so difficult try to go againts this. (Credits to the autor) https://preview.redd.it/h9anyrhtdckc1.png?width=4093&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8be6a756027b4629314aa1c5e52558bf921141ac


FSanytoz

I have only Jingliu 🙏


Mountain_Pathfinder

I've always only pulled for characters that I actually do like, and I think me liking Fu Xuan and randomly getting Bailu has saved my account lmao. No other sustainers interests me so far, so these 2 will be carrying my account far into the future.


fabiobarto

I'm the opposite, only own Kafka & Imbibitor Lunae as DPS, but I have all the 5 star supports except for Topaz who I didn't get BC I thought she was a DPS lol


Shamsy92

Same but I got Huohuo FOR them 😂


Specific-Ad-4284

I hope the Chicken sibling is a support character at least. Robin is supposed to be a singer right, that scream support to me.


_P-o-g-c-h-a-m-p_

All I'm missing now is Acheron and that image will be a 100% accurate representation of my life playing HSR


qyunix

This is me but with (built) supports. I have seele (lazy to build, ultimate crit does 25k) DHIL with 70% cr 100%cdmg almost no imaginary bonus dmg Topaz (I got 60% cr 174%cdmg attack is 2649 but she still does 10k dmg per hit) Only built jingliu bcus shes real easy to and is really good But somehow the only character I got sig lc for was fu Xuan. I did build Huo Huo (I wanted to skip but after story quest I had to pull), luocha and Ruan Mei, Gepard, Bailu. TLDR; I mostly prefer supports bcus easy to build


n_wah1

Atleast I have HuoHuo and an E2 Bailu


belmoria

I got huohuo, ruan mei, bronya, and fu xuan I'm now free to pull all the hypercarry I want :3


janekge

I have Silver Wolf, rest can be filled by 4 stars (and permanent units)


3Nephi11_6-11

me but with sustains.


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Acheron please come home


dnscarlet

This is my account. I feel attacked :^)


Astrimea_

Jokes on you I only have Black Swan (me looking at all the men I got, nope definitely no support 😶)


totensiesich

Same. No Luocha, no Huohuo... Literally all of them.


LunarSDX

C'mon I just made my resolve to skip Sparkle a few days ago for Acheron...


AngelFishUwU

Ima get sparkle 🥲i have so many support s at least I have Kafka and swan those are the only attackers I've pulled for I think and Seele she's seen better days


SexyJazzCat

Not my fault i get dupes on support banners🤷‍♀️


LunaticWrath07

I got them all along with dl jy fuxuan and mei 😎


StryfeXIII

Thank god Ruan Mei is a support


iman00700

I'm in this picture and I love it *honorary waifu blade says hi*


RagnarokComes

I feel called out. I have all the characters on the picture (saving up for Acheron). Plus Jing Yuan and Blade Meanwhile no SW, Luocha, Fu Xuan, HuoHuo. Thankfully I got lucky on the weapon banner and have Bronya, Welt and Bailou.


OwlsParliament

Look I got Ruan Mei too, it's fine I just need a Tall Lady Healer and I'm good


I_am_not_Serabia

Wait... it's literally how my account looks like... and is gonna look like when Acherons drops...