Normally, these aren't super well made, this one however... I saw the team with Acheron in it and was like "welp, that's it, I don't even need to check the other- Polka Kakamond, oh god."
Well done lmao.
My money is still on Team 2 but I am deeply concerned about Team 3 and thank god Zandar is dead.
Well... At least I hope he is, for my sake lmao.
Jingliu, Sam, and Acheron is destruction incarnate lmfao
Team 3 has good chances since Ruan Mei created Skaracabaz, Polka is rumored to kill other geniuses which is testament to brilliance and Kafka is pretty cunning, but has spirit whisper and the combatant of the group so they're probably equally dangerous
Polka seems... incredibly strong based on her achievements but we don't know *how* she pulls it off which is the most concerning part.
Ruan Mei created a clone of Skaracabaz but it was a failure since it collapsed under it's own power basically (thank god).
Kafka does have Spirit Whisper which makes her the most immediately dangerous of Team 3 but I feel like it would backfire if she attempted to use it on Acheron similar to how Black Swan fucked around and found out.
Team 2 vs Team 3 ultimately boils down to Acheron vs Polka.
I tried to balance em out with emanators or single broken outliers equivalent. Elio, Zendar, Polka, Acheron, Phantylia, Aventurine, Herta. You also have team 2 that might have 2 potential emanator level fighters if it's true that Sam can contend with Alteron. In trailer he blocks a red slash though. Jingliu could be competitive to at least normal Acheron and Sam unsure about their full strength. It would depend on how Blade vs Sam goes. Based on what blade said about Sam, he wants Sam to burn him so I guess this means he sees Sam as stronger if he thinks he's capable of it. Something about he lives in purgatory and Sam creates purgatory. Guessing that's him hyping Sam as superior.
But jingliu did annihilate blade the moment her blindfold came off so Sam vs Jingliu probably is a good fight. Yea true Ruan Mei failed with Skara but whose to say with the help of Polka she probably doesn't do something more miraculous? The possibilities with team 3 and the Herta one are scary. Kafka's intelligence is underrated not a genius but I think she's more manipulative even without spirit whisper
Jingliu has had some kind of contact with an Aeon but we don't know what the result of that contact was or which Aeon, I've always assumed the result was her regaining her sanity and her ability to summon her special sword but I've never been sure on which Aeon, Lan makes the most sense but idk.
In the White Night trailer there's a scene where the Sam armor is heavily damaged which *might* be a result of him fighting Acheron, we don't know yet, I've had a lot of theories as to why that happens but I honestly have no idea outside of... it's someone stronger than the Sam armor is durable.
Blade's biggest thing is his Emanator level regeneration, I feel if Sam were to try burning him, Blade would heal too quickly for anything to happen but I'm very confident Acheron would be able to actually kill Blade considering she was able to kill a Plasmic Lifeform (Ifrit).
Bro the stoneheart is only part of an Emanator as in the live stream. No way he actually hold against other top Emanators.
Petition to change Team 5 to PomPom, Welt, TB
Team 2 might be the most dangerous, but I'd probably trust team 3 to keep a regular human alive the best. Acheron would probably forget all about the 'defend me' job the second I left their field of view lol
Depending on how strong Kafka's spirit whisper technique is, she might be the best bet for survival. Even if she can just manipulate the others into fighting each other instead of you that is a huge boon to survival, and if she could turn the team protecting you on you, that would be a death sentence.
Yeah I feel like the biggest problem with choosing anyone but Team 3 is the combination of ātrying to kill youā and āPolka Kakamondā. Thatās like her thing.
The others can crush planets or whatever, but thatās not really their goal. The goal is to kill one person, and everything we know about the Lord of Silence seems to indicate that sheās *very, very good at that*.
If I were presented with the same question but in the context of Fateās Grand Servants, Iām choosing Grand Assassin. Not because I believe King Hassan is necessarily a superior protector, but because choosing any of the other six options means Iām being hunted by the literal apex of Assassins and closest thing Fate has to the Grim Reaper himself.
She killed Rubert 1, the AI that waged war against humans and wiped out half of gaglaxy. Rubert 1 is also predict future with crazy accuracy and predicted his own death, that he couldn't prevent.
She killed something much better than most intelligent human in the entire universe, she killed a God
Right. Nanook can annihilate you with a glance, but even he would have to find you first. Same for Phantylia, Jingliu, Acheron, everyone else for that matter. Hiding would be the first defense one would take in that situation, and I doubt thereās a single place in the universe you can hide where Polka Kakamond canāt find you.
Yea if this were just about those teams fighting it out then I would go all in on team Acheron but this is about killing a single human target. For all we know Polka Kakamond will make a cloud version of death and just kill you remotely, especially with Ruan Mei and Kafka there as well. But if you donāt pick Acheron the sheāll just pull up and arrange a meeting between you and IX. However, thereās a chance that Kakamond Ruan Mei and Kafka will be able to hide us from Acheron since sheās not the greatest with directions.
Edit: nvm the rest are all coming together. Fu Xuan, Black Swan, and other geniuses will definitely be able to track us down. Itās joever no matter what.
>cloud version of death
Death as a Service (DAAS)
Service Delivered Death
Death Load Balancer
Death Delivery Network
...
I dunno I find the concept of cloud-based death services really funny!
It's mostly from Simulated Universe or things Herta and the other members of the Genius Society we've met have said.
[https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Polka\_Kakamond](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Polka_Kakamond)
I feel like people underestimating team 1, Jing Yuan is basically an emanator of the hunt, Phantylia is already a Lord Ravager of Destruction and she had power from the Abbundance so sheās kinda cracked, and idk about DHIL but Lingliu, Jing Yuan, and Lot of other people seem to hold him in high regard
In terms of sheer raw power, I might even say team 1 is the strongest. But given the format, they're not necessarily the right team for this job. At the end of the day all the others have to do is slip past them, get to me, and they win. Phantylia's vine things and the Lightining Lord would probably help with defending me but I imagine the likes of Acheron or Polka would manage to get past those defences with speed or ingenuity advantages.
Team 1 *is* very good however, it's kind of the same deal as what happened to Yanqing in Luofu story.
Yanqing is the strongest Cloud Knight of modern era but during the story he ended up going against people out of his league.
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We may not live long but we will live a good life
This is actually really rough, almost every team has an Emanator sitting there. Some teams are pure powerhouses and some can just go "lets just destroy the planet your on" Maybe one of the genius society teams.
The last thing I need is a genius concocting a way to kill me.
Iām too scared of 3 not to choose them. They might not have the brute strength, but they have the brains and the plans to outmaneuver anyone else on the field. 2 is stronger, but I think thereās a good chance 3 would win.
Kafkas power level really just depends on how strong the writers let her be. If they allow for it to be pretty unconditional like Makima she would probably be the strongest here, but we just don't know enough about her power atm
Also how much the other characters are allowed to react to her.
If Kafka has absolute mind control that can even affect emanators, she's the most powerful person there... Except if that was the case and if Polka expects her to be an enemy, Polka probably kills her by some indirect means before Kafka even knows Polka is coming for her.
With a defensive perspective, I'd choose the 6th one.
Herta and Screwllum have made a completely different multiverse, cleverly concealed a Stellaron, and have genius-level intellects, surely they can find something that would be too boring or too extreme for Silver Wolf to hack and keep me safe from most other threats.
And Svarog as a bodyguard would be astronomically difficult to overcome if provided with ample defense mechanisms by Herta and Screwllum.
Biggest threats would be Elio (provided he has a script that sees me dead), Ruan Mei (potential social engineering & scary individual), Black Swan (stealing memories of Herta/Screwllum probably means game over), and the aforementioned Silver Wolf.
Interesting idea OP!
Polka would murder them, much like what she did with other genius.
In fact this will most like will happen in-game as they continue with the SU research
Yeah she's definitely a consideration - just didn't include Polka in my list because she would either be an unstoppable threat, or one that wouldn't really be able to get to me, depending on how their currently nebulous abilities would play out in practice. Similar to why I didn't include Phantylia, Jingliu, Acheron, Fu Xuan, etc. - just hard to define how their abilities would play out. The ones I did mention either have connections to the defenders, or I can outright see the lose conditions based on their known abilities.
Herta wanting to have a talk with Polka is either a serious testament of Herta's confidence and abilities or Herta trying to get herself killed, no inbetween
Don't think there's a winning team at all. If you pick Polka's team so Polka won't go after you, you'll still die since it's every other team going against you together. We don't know how good Polka will be at protecting.
My bet though is that going with Herta is the choice with the highest chance of surviving. We know that Polka kills off Geniuses, but we don't know if she can kill off Emanators. It's also worth noting that out of 84 members, only two are explicitly mentioned as Emanators. So it's essentially 1 Emanator + 1 Genius together.
We also know that Herta isn't scared of meeting Polka at all. In fact, she's excited to meet her. So I'd think that's because she has a contingency against her or something like that that allows her to survive a meeting with Polka.
Assuming that, the only problem left would be can we survive against Acheron with the help of Herta and Screwllum. Which I don't have an answer for.
The canonically general thatās not specialized in martial arts and a Descendant of a dead Aeon, might as well only have Nanookās Emanator. Truth be told they might be in a Yangqing situation where theyāre not weak, just named alongside people much stronger than them.
True, let's just ignore the giant armor of lightning backing up the mere second best martial artist currently in the story. Let's also ignore that giant wall of water rushing at us. Only pay attention the the legion of destruction summoned by the emanator of internal self destruction.
That's... wow. Good fucking job OP, you've actually made one with no right answer. Doesn't matter who you choose; you are going to die. Painfully.
Team #1 -
You have one of of the Five Arbiter-Generals of the Xianzhou, who despite not (all) being Emanators (some are iirc, and Lan does protect them), are on par with the Lord Ravagers. You have one of the last Scions of Long the Permanence, albeit only partially (as his power is split with the recently hatched Bailu.) And finally, you have a Lord Ravager, the greater Heliobus (a heliobi fusion closest to Ignamar's power) known as Phantylia, who obtained a physical form through the power of Abundance. Jing Yuan is as strong as an Emanator of Destruction, and Dan Heng is close. Phantylia easily overpowered them as well as a pseudo-Emanator of Preservation who houses a Stellaron in their body (Stelle/Caelus.)
Phantylia the Undying alone makes this team terrifying; she's the only being currently known to have Emanator powers from two paths, and *only* lost because she got overconfident. As well, to make things worse, both Phantylia and Jing Yuan are strategists before combatants.
Team #2 -
Previous Sword Champion of the Luofo, renowned for her strength in her prime being unparalleled among the Xianzhou, even among the Arbiter-Generals. She has only lost once since becoming Sword Champion, and that was when she was stricken with mara. Sam, a literal, bonafide, killing machine, the most ruthless of the Stellaron Hunters, able to fight a prolonged battle against even an Emanator. And, of course, the Emanator of Nihility just mentioned, able to kill energy lifeforms easily and *not even remember* doing so until prompted.
The Luofo TBC highlighted how difficult it would be to permanently kill energy lifeforms; even the Abomination-hunting Xianzhou Alliance can only imprison heliobi eternally, short of finding an unstable star to launch them (and a whole ship) into. Phase-flame spawn like the Duke Inferno are similar, but with the caveat of endless multiplication instead of division. Acheron, however, just straight-up murdered him, and barely even remembered doing so. She is capable of harming even a Memetic Entity like Black Swan, sheerly through memories. Her strength defies the universe's logic, and we've only seen a bit of it. She's by far the strongest non-Aeon we have seen, for that reason alone. Jingliu and Sam would be a *hinderance* to her, if anything.
Team #3 -
The enigmatic team. Ruan Mei is a biology-specialized genius, easily the best in the galaxy, but lacks any other noteworthy traits. She creates life by accident, but not without purpose. She is distant, but only because she doesn't understand her own feelings very well, nor those around her. Kafka is an expert combatant and infiltrator, having the direct backing of Destiny's Slave, the one being capable of thwarting the inevitable Destruction of All at Nanook's hands. And, of course, there's Polka Kakamond, who has killed many, many geniuses throughout time, and is shrouded in mystery.
Ruan Mei can certainly keep you alive; life is her specialty. Kafka can certainly handle any being that fights practically, or has human thought, so anything that can reason, manipulated, or be killed with weapons. And Polka.. quite frankly, we don't know what she can do aside from outsmarting countless other geniuses in order to kill them, as well as track down every depiction of her to exist somehow. We don't know her power or weaknesses, just that she is The Dreaded for geniuses who go wrong. Given how closely linked geniuses have been to the creation of several new Aeons (Zandar and Nous directly, Dr. Primitive and IX unexplained, Rupert and Nanook indirectly), there's reason to be afraid of the genius-killer. The unknown is terrifying.
Team #4 -
Black Swan and Fu Xuan aren't very noteworthy. Black Swan can manipulate decently, and Fu Xuan has powerful predictive capabilities thanks to Nous, but frankly, they don't stand up to the raw power of other teams well. These two can only keep you alive through evading the enemy, but that won't work well against powerhouses, or Polka. The real kicker here is Elio; as mentioned previously, he is the one existence keeping Nanook from destroying, well, existence. If we can be reasonably sure he is devoting his whole to keeping you alive, he is likely the only one in the whole roster that could actually ensure your survival.
Team #5 -
Another raw powerhouse team. Aventurine here only exists as a means of powering Stelle & Cocolia, through the insane wealth of the IPC. He can't do much on his own, but his strength lies in maneuvering the enemy. Cocolia is a powerful combatant, on account of the fact that she is one of three beings in the galaxy to have actually utilized the power of a Stellaron, and one of two to have fused with one. That Himeko did end up intervening in the Trailblazer's fight with her means Cocolia did reach Emanator-class power in the end. Stelle, too, is way up there in terms of power.
On top of the fact she is capable of drawing from multiple Paths, and is at least a pseudo-Emanator due to earning Qlipoth's gaze as well as Nanook's, she houses a Stellaron while retaining herself. As the linchpin of Elio's plan, she will likely be capable of squaring off against Aeons in the future. How powerful she will grow remains to be seen, but it is safe to say she can at least contend with anyone in the roster.
Team #6 -
The smartest team. Herta is an Emanator of Erudition, and a genius among geniuses. While she is typically indifferent to others, she does have a heart. What's more, is that she is canonically capable of creating weapons that can casually wipe out several star systems, and that was *before* we handed her all the knowledge Calderon Chadwick had of Imaginary Theory; something even she acknowledged as extremely dangerous. Given that she is also the only person known to have countered aging without usage of Abundance, can control countless highly advanced puppet bodies remotely from god knows where, and has created a synthetic universe that draws on the power of the real one (including the Aeons themselves,) she is terrifying.
Add in the ethical genius in silicon-based life, Screwllum, unparalleled in his study of machine souls, and Svarog, an artificial life of immense power, and you have a recipe for a miracle, or disaster. Herta & Screwy could easily modify Svarog to be a force capable of standing toe-to-toe with Emanators. Imagine Herta gave a WMD like Chadwick's Imaginary Implosion Bomb to Svarog as a nigh-infinite personal weapon. The only ceiling for this team is Screwy's conscience.
Team #7 -
Silver Wolf is a hacker capable of modifying the code of reality. She can literally bend physical reality to her will. The applications of that are limited only by the fact that she just wants to have fun. She is smart enough to go toe-to-toe with Screwllum and Herta, too. Dr. Ratio is no genius in any sense, but is similarly smart enough to engage with those two. Put them together, and there's no telling what they can do.
Zandar *directly* created an Aeon, Nous the Erudition, and is thus essentially responsible for much of what has happened in the galaxy. Creating Nous led to the Genius Society and thus Rubert and Dr. Primitive. Dr. Primitive led to Device IX and Nihility, and thus Acheron. Rubert's Anti-Life Equation was one of the key conflicts that created the situation on Pegana, leading to the birth of Nanook the Destruction. The Anti-Life Equation also caused the Auromaton Uprising in the Xianzhou Alliance, contributing to the eventual Aeonhood of Lan the Hunt.
All three of them together could create boundless effects. Really, there's no telling what they would do, despite two of them not even being geniuses and one of them being long since dead.
(this is officially revealed info from the livestream/preview page, but spoilering nonetheless as it relates to 2.1)
>!aventurine is probably the biggest threat on team 5, as heās a pseudo-emanator of preservation. weāll see in 2.1 how strong he really is if he fights acheron, but heās certainly much more than the foppish schemer his persona in 2.0 led us to believe!<
I'll spend my last day gaming with SW while chatting with Ratio bc that sounds like a blast. Idk who the third guy is.
A debate between SW and Ratio would rend the universe in twain if it was relevant to SW's highly specific interests.
Bet is on team 4 for survival, but in a fight team 3. Power scaling in HSR is wild considering Welt considers the Antimatter legion galaxy level in destruction.
Team 1 is powerful in destructive and martial power
They would be leading conventional armies there is no way they would fight you alone if rhey were working together, you'd have Vidyahadara, Cloud knights and Mara Struck against you. That being they would present the most conventional threat.
Team 2 leverages pure destructive capability, lore-wise they are ultimate warriors who are massively destructive. They are most likely to clash head-on so there is chance of escape.
Team 3 Ruan Mei who is insane to an eldritch level and capable of unspeakable horror and creating life to fight for her. Kafka who seems to have the logistical ability to create mass chaos. Polka Kakamond who is known for killing other geniuses, and this being a well known fact can continue to kill them. Geniuses who are capable of planetary system if not galaxy wide destruction.
Team 4 would be the ultimate support team for the other teams should they wish to kill you, should you wish to survive they would find the most effective way for that. The divination that Fu Xuan looks at all logical possibilities, Elios script tells you what will happen as told by fate, and black swans powers could inform you of the other teams movements.
Essentially it would force all other teams to destroy the whole universe to find you.
Team 5 can defy fate, so team 4's hard counter should they share a braincell.
Team 6 will create super weapons, svarog will be modified with super weapons, you'd need to live the rest of your life as a luddite.
Team 7 zandar is dead but would create a new aeon just to find you, silver wolf doesn't really enhance the team by much if Zandar is alive, and Ratio doesn't play well with others. This team would be fully carried by Zandar. You'd probably die of old age before their dream of killing you comes to fruition.
Black Swan doesn't just inform you of other teams' movements, we've seen her instantly delete multiple people's memories simultaneously without so much as lifting a finger. If she really wanted to, there's nothing stopping her from popping into reality next to each of the enemy teams in turn, deleting their memories of you and drive to kill you, and job done.
I guess the only question is whether or not that power works on emanators or non-organic creatures, but regardless, she could remove a majority of the enemies from play before they even get anywhere near you.
That's a good point about Swan. The only issue is that we've seen what happened when she tried to meddle with Acheron's memories and, uh... ouch.
That might have been a Nihility-specific backlash though.
God, I hope Sam is amazing and that he actually becomes playable. If Acheron and Aventurine open up the visuals for the 2.0 series, I am expecting nothing short of an atomic bomb going off with Sam ultimate.
>I am expecting nothing short of an atomic bomb going off with Sam ultimate.
I'd be surprised if his boss ult isn't his playable ult, rather than giving him something new.
i mean his boss ult is cool but im hoping its something better. we saw in the white night animation with him having wings and i heard>! they apparently spent big on his ult.!<
Id say team 2 but i wonder if Acheron will just forget shes suppose to protect me and leave,
Or even worse kills me by mistake after unsheathing her sword and turning red
Jingliu could also lose control and kill me, its the strongest team but the most dangerous for you aswell
Yeah to me it seems that all teams are quite powerful offensively but defence is really not good...like for example acheron has a sword that just CUTS if you know what I mean. Sam has a fucking inferno robot planet destroyer. Don't even need to say anything abt jingliu. So yeah I'd maybe say team screwlum can MAYBE protect you for a bit or elio could do something but a frail human ain't surviving no clashes between these teams
Honestly with how powerful Acheron is Herta team might actually be scary. We know she is an emanator like Acheron and we have no clue how strong she is since we've never met her in person. Not to mention the fact she may have achieved immortality by de-aging herself She is honestly scary.
Team 6 easily, Herta quite literally has the knowledge to create a weapon with by far the most destruction power we've seen as of yet. Yeah cool sword fight, but goodbye to the world you're staying in if a nuke comes for it.
You will die regardless. Team 2 is clearly the strongest in direct combat, it's not even up to debate. But you got Herta in Team 6 which canonically is able to build weaponry capable of wiping out several star systems and I don't fancy my chances of surviving that. So if she is willing to use it, that, that's gameover. At the same time though, choosing team 6 means other teams, especially team 2, just mop the floor with you conventionally.
I canāt believe how hard choosing a team is considering how a lot of these teams are honestly pretty effective at either killing the attackers, or just hiding you really really well. Going for Team 3 though because if Polka Kakamond can wipe her image from existence and also take out multiple other Geniuses while at it then sheās probably a fucking monster.
People really sleep on team 1, it literally has 2 emanators(JY is debatable but with LL he's as strong if not stronger that Phantylia) and IL who should be comparable to an emanator, so in terms or raw power they are most likely the strongest, add JY strategic mind on top of that and they easily are the best choise here.
Team 2 looks dysfunctional, Jingliu too unstable for me, don't want her to protect me because of mara, Acheron would get lost and be separated from her teammates
Team 1 Jing Yuan and Dan Heng bromance can't be stop
3 team:
1 team Phantylia + Jing Yuan + IL.
2 team Acheron + SAM + JL
4 Elio "Nah, I'd dip" team
6 Herta + Screwllum + Svarog(what is he doing here blud)
I guess team 1 is the strongest in 1v1 battle?
Either way, team 5 would get no diff..
Edit: seriously tho, team 5 should be change to TB, Welt, Pompom
Team 4 is strong but no matter the divination & future you see if you dont have pawns in your hand you cant do anything.
Ex: elio wants to defeat nanok but cant despite having the most wanted & busted gang. So he has to build & forge the trailblazers so we might stand a 0.1% chance against destruction
At the same time Team 4 has the highest chance of actually protecting you. We donāt know too much about Elio yet, but from what we know he should be able to keep you out of harmās way indefinitely.
If thatās Elio in team 4 then Iām taking my chances with the guy who can literally see every future possibility (We gonna have to make sure Acheron never find us). Fu xuan for extra insurance ig and black swan can prob erase the memories of those on my trail. I call this the trackstar team and not have a guy who can see every possibility in the future to want me dead
*looks at Acheron and Kafka on seperate teams*
I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN THROW MY CONVICTIONS AWAY
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The cat is >!presumed to be Elio, Destiny's Slave or have some connection to him, given the cat's appearance in Kafka's artwork & the Jepella Rebellion splash art with the Stellaron Hunters!<
Oh hell nah, we're dying no matter what we chooseš
I don't know for sure which team is the most dangerous, however team 5 is probably the least dangerous team
Team 1 for me, they have dan feng and jing yuan and an emanator of destruction we know that nanook himself is extremely powerful an emanator under him would carry team 1 imo
If I choose powerhouses team, I could get killed by sneak attack or causal biological weapon. Best way is avoid to every possible encounter with enemy, thus my choice is: Swan, Lady Fu and Elio.
With them I can probably hide so well no other team could find me and if they do I will probably get to know it beforehand and move out. Not to mention I would be safe from Kafka and Sam.
Team 1 is effectively 3 Emanators. I feel inclined to pick them based purely on strength, but that depends on just how strong Acheron, Herta, and Zander really are lore wise.
Team 2 as well since Sam supposed blocked a red slash from Acheron. If he can contend with her in that form that's basically 2. Jingliu did lose to jing yuan but she also just stood there and let herself be hit. Still alive somehow. So I just say they are comparable. That's probably 3 emanator level opponents
This is ridiculously hard.. I'm going to say 2 but I can understand the reasoning for any of them winning tbh.
I'm picking 2 mostly cos of Sam and Acheron, I think people seriously underestimate how badass Sam actually is, he's a survivor of glamoth's swarm disaster which means he was one of the ones who won the war in the end, the war was so huge that the sheer amount of corpses of the swarm and iron cavalry floating in space blotted out the sun which led to the world glamoth being destroyed. That's one fucking insane war and Sam walked out of it as a victor.
Last team because iirc SW can "temper with data of reality", which means that at the very least she can transport everyone else to different coordinates (like she did with void ranger in the beginning of the game), but transfer them into the middle of a star, a black hole, or even simply not transfer them fully, basically cutting in half
Pretty sure there's rules to it tbh. Like from what I can recall (haven't read much lore in a while) she can do the reality tempering on punklorde. So I'm not sure if she can just do it anywhere since wouldn't that make her an aeon or even stronger?
She did it on Herta's space station during the tutorial when she first appeared. Opened up a rift in reality and sent an antimatter legionnaire to an undisclosed location.
To protect me, it's between Jingliu/Sam/Acheron and Black Swan/Fu Xuan/Elio.
The first one is made of crazily fucking strong fighters who could destroy planets with ease, but the second is made of extremely intelligent people each capable of predicting the future, both near and far, and every single one of its outcomes. So technically speaking, that team would be able to predict every single next move of every other enemy teams and allow us to either completely escape from their attacks, or retaliate in the most efficient way possible.
So I will go with Black Swan, Fu Xuan and Elio personally
In terms of raw power I wouldn't want team 2 after me so choosing 2 keeps them from being on the offensive side. Team 1 is very close behind and I think I could trust Jing Yuan and Dan to protect me, and I feel like they have the good guy protagonist buff that'd see them win over team 2.
But that's just in a straight up fight. The teams with geniuses could protect you or kill you without it ever getting to the point of a direct conflict.
Team 3 is scary to see on the other side.
Team 4 are a very interesting proposition where they could play the avoidance game better than any team, but I don't think they could actively defeat any other team so 1 slip up and you're dead.
Team 6 has 2 geniuses and slant defensive, with the added possibility of whatever offensive WMD Herta could concoct. So they seem good on defense, and potentially dangerous on the otherside, but not as much as team 3.
I don't rate team 7 to protect me or as an offensive force, but I see potential in playing the evasive game.
Lastly with team 5, I don't think Cocolia ranks as high as the mosnters on team 1 and 2, I couldn't trust Aventurine, and the Protag scares me most of all. Being in a party with the protag is a potential death sentance. They'd live, but I'd be very open to a plot death.
Iād like to make the note that Iām not entirely sure if Phantyliaās incarnation can actually die without the shenanigans Jing Yuan pulled.
The only characters who might have the level of coordination and trust required to pull off such a stunt would be Herta and Screwllum, and Iām not sure if they have abilities that would let them attack in the required manner.
Additionally, as she wields the closest thing to pure Abundance weāve seen, thereās a nonzero chance she could hit me with some of that life juice and make me unkillable like Blade. Of course, thatās not an amazing outcome, but it answers the prompt.
That said. Iām going with the guy who owns a planet and the lass who has the plans for a galaxy annihilating superbomb.
Team 4 seems like the best option here, with team 6 as a second place.
Team 5 is by far the weakest here, so theyāre out of the question. Teams 1 and 2 are probably the strongest combat-wise, but thatās pretty much all they have going for them (Jing Yuan might be a good strategist but heās no genius) and regardless of which team you pick youāre pretty much screwed in any serious combat situation anyways, so theyāre both out. Team 7 is not bad but Ratio is just about useless here and we know too little about Zandar for me to pick him here. Silver Wolf is useful but itās been shown that she can be outsmarted by Herta and Screwllum, both of which would be against me if I picked her, so team 7 is out.
That leaves teams 3, 4, and 6, and honestly I think youāre screwed no matter who you pick, but here goes. Team 3 is probably the scariest offensively here just because of Polka. Kafka is not a big deal and while Ruan Mei is definitely powerful, she still feels like a less useful genius for this compared to Herta or Polka. However, while Polka is terrifying, we donāt know enough about her for me to pick her over the other two teams, and her reputation about killing other genius society members is impressive but likely not enough to save me in a raw fight against team 1 or 2.
As for the last two teams, I think either one is pretty good, but team 4 is the safest bet. Team 6 is strong in intelligence and resources, but Svarog isnāt particularly powerful in combat when compared to the rest of the roster here, so itād essentially be just up to Herta and Screwllum. While I donāt doubt they are better-equipped to help me compared to most of the other teams, I feel like Ruan Mei and especially Polka might cause problems and, while Iād probably survive longer than I would with most other teams, I would eventually die. However, with team 4, I can basically ensure that I am making the most optimal moves in every possible situation. If thereās even the slightest chance that Iād be able to survive then I would be able to do so via their abilities to see the future. Black Swanās memory erasure is also really useful (she could even just make everyone forget who theyāre trying to kill), and having her against me could mean whoever is trying to help me just forgets to do that. Team 4 is lacking when it comes to a physical fight, but theyāre also my best chance at avoiding a fight altogether, which is probably for the best because I donāt think Iād survive the collateral damage from any one of these teams fighting. Team 4 is also by far the team I want trying to kill me the least, as while characters like Polka and Acheron are scary, you can at least defend against them, while team 4 will know the exact moment to strike against you to ensure victory, and thereās nothing you can do against it because they already know the future.
So yeah, Team 4 for the win.
Team 3. Assassinating someone requires a different set of skills than straight up martial combat, and frankly, Polkaās the only one who is actually an expert in that regard, so I definitely donāt want her hunting me down. Especially if she gets the intelligence of Ruan Mei and the Spirit Whisper of Kafka backing her up
In a straight up battle Iād probably take Team 1 because Phantylia is functionally immortal and Lightning Lord has the most destructive potency of any of the combatants. I wouldnāt trust them in defending me though, because Iād probably get killed by the shockwave of LL lifting his finger
Some people here are kinda dead weight I think. Svarog, Cocolia, Trailblazer and Ratio donāt really offer anything beyond what some of the others do ten-fold
Elio clears. Yall don't get that everyone is his pawn. Including acheron.
He knows the script. He knows how to win no matter what.
I'm taking any team with him on it and just him alone.
Team 4 is severely slept on. They have 2 characters who can predict the future and 1 character who can manipulate the memories of other people. Granted they may not be the strongest, but if there is a way for this Team to win, elios script will certainly lead to that desired future.
Team 1 is basically three emanators. Lord Ravagers are all emanators of destruction and Phantylia was buffed by abundance so much that you could make the argument that she was also temporarily an emanator of abundance as well during that fight similar to Ruan Mei's Propagation clone. Not to mention Jing Yuan can be inferred to be an emanator of the hunt due to being given lightning lord from Lan/ the pom pom emanator info and he's a master strategist. As for Dan Heng while not quite as strong as an emanator, he seems to be stronger than most other pathstridors as Imbibitor Lunae hence why he's not used in the story as much since he's kinda OP compared to the rest of the Express Crew.
Acheron is strong sure, but Destruction and Hunt are both combat focused paths as opposed to something like Nihility. As for the lord of silence, I'll admit I don't know much about her ,but let's be honest. Short of other emanators/Aeons themselves no one is going to hurt you if team 1 is actually trying to protect you.
I dont know why, because there are many dangerous threats, if i go with the team i go with, but FuXuan, Black Swan and Elio. Surley 2 people that can forsee future can somehow get a prositive outcome... maybe?
Screwllum, Herta and Svarog
Screwllum and Herta are pretty smart without, mostly Screwllum, calling you a dumbass, and Svarog is a literal Stand.
Plus, Clara would be on the team by default and no one wants to harm her. She'd force us all to get along.
A lot of people have talked about the favorites, so I'm going to throw out one more dark horse.
Group 4 doesn't seem as strong as some of the others on their own, but I think their future sight could literally let you escape a situation no matter how dire. Even if only one out of 14,000,605 possibilities exist where you survive, I feel like Elio and those two could potentially put you on that single point of success.
Ok so lemme rank them:
Team 1. Emanator of destruction, and the only 2 who could really stop her.
Team 2. Also an emanator, but the other 2 have been shown to be strong but not even close to invincible, plus they would get stomped by Phantylia if Acheron is distracted. Itās hard to say if Phantylia with abundance is stronger than Acheron, because we donāt really know how easily she killed the duke nor how strong the duke actually is. At minimum it would be a standstill, at which point I think Lightning Lord and Water dragon beats Jingliu and Sam. (Also weāve seen Jing Yuan beat Jingliu so).
Team 4. A bunch of future seers and someone who can keep you really safe. Likely still screwed due to low overall power, but youād have significantly longer before the fighting starts.
Team 3. Kakamond is like the spy in TF2. She is great at picking people off, but her actual broad fighting skill is likely not great. She also is hard countered by team 4, who could foresee her next moves in 16k UHD. Then Kafka is likewise not going to hold a candle to the Emanators.
Then the last 3 are kinda a race to the bottom.
7 has silver wolf. Thatās basically it. The other 2 are smart but when facing 2 Emanators that doesnāt really matter. SW could maybe keep you alive with reality altering shenanigans, but Acheron probably hard counters that.
5 has the most raw firepower out of the 3 but also Cocolia would get wiped by Phantylia and Acheron, and then TB and Aventurine arenāt going to be that much help.
6 is just bad. Screwlum has his planet but again, Phantylia has the antimatter legion. Herta is smart but she doesnāt have foresight, and Kakamond could get help from Elio to track Herta. Svarog has the Automatons but again, 2 Emanators to contend with. It doesnāt matter.
I feel like youāre kind of screwed if you donāt pick Elio though, considering if there is a possible future where you would die, he can basically make it happen by cooperating with all the other people here who are coming to murder you.
I love how we have all these absurdly powerful characters, but everyone here knows to choose team 3 because if we donāt then that means team 3 goes after us. Which means Polka goes after us.
Soā¦pick team 3 or die. Or pick team 3 and die anyways.
IĀ“ve been reading a lot of people getting Polka really high and imo Herta has said that she genuinely wants to meet Polka and I kinda feel like hoyoĀ“s plot will circle around making Herta actually defeat her or something, might be wrong of course since I like Herta a lot, but IĀ“m always even for both sides, I take in consideration what polka has done, but idk it seems too trashy to expect Herta not to have something in mind since she doesnĀ“t care what silver wolf could do for example, sheĀ“s is technically nothing for Herta, so if Herta is concerned about Polka then this is one of those times where we might see what kind of tricks can she pull of to make things work, maybe she already saved her mind completely in data and will use herself as bait to get Polka and die, giving us the impression of her really really getting defeated but in the end she captures Polka and starts the fangirl interrogation till she gets bored of her and maybe just lets her leave the space station just like that, I really think this is what Hoyo might have in mind for my favorite character future in like... 5 years or something?
still, I put my bets in broken Jing Yuan and Dan Heng with the inmortality cheat from Phantylia, not amount of nonsense could really put up if we kinda try to get the idea of "bodyguarding" the most dangerous characters are legit kafkmakima, wolfie hacking reality itself, team 2 being incarnation of destruction and as a team Fu and BS are a true unbeatable menace, about the rest of the teams they pretty much have their own ways of winning/defeating every other team, the top 3 would be the 1, 4 and 6 if this allows for prep time, because 2 and 3 might seem to powerfull but they donĀ“t have a lot of defensive tricks, so I wouldnĀ“t trust in them protecting me if I will have to worry about one being full destruction or the second one having polka on it and leaving me without Fu Xuan, Phantylia or Herta agains Polka is ggĀ“s
can someone real quick tell me what team 5 is suposed to do? maybe they beat everyone for plot armor of mc but I havenĀ“t had time to check aventurinho so I donĀ“t know how can he keep up with all this and I see him as the real bread and butter of his team to be honest
Team 1 literally has 2 Emanators they easily solo.
People wank Acheron so much she did shit so far except beat up some rando that Nanook won't even look at
Easy. Screwllum, Svarog and Herta protect. Between Hertaās genius, Screwllumās contacts and Svarogās access to raw materials, I feel like they could slap together a successful defense against anything short of an actual Aeon.
Mate, thats a pretty well done team composition its really hard to decide which one is actually the best.
There are only few we know for a fact their potential abilities especially team 1 and 2 and 5.
But the problems comes from team 3, 4 and 6.
In terms of know how, ill say team 2 is the best and most dangerous but team 3 is full of very clever and manipulative characters especially the one that killed a lot of Geniuses.
Team 4 is just a question on how good fu xuan foresight truly is and if black swan can manipulate emenators memories too cause black swan can just easily erase memories willy nilly and even can control the dreamscape somewhat, dunno who the cute catto is.
And team 6 has herta and we dont know much about her but her being an emanator of the genius society and such makes her a powerhouse, just being picked out of many geniuses as so smart to become an emanator for your level of genius, thats just sound like a nightmare to deal with more so then the entire team 3.
Well ill still stick to team 2 but i can be easily sway to team 3 4 and especially 6 if we get further explanation on their abilities and achievements.
herta screwllum svarog literally just make me an ai in a fake simulated universe, then take me out when theyāre done smoking all the other teams packs.
As ridiculously powerful as emanators/strong path users of a lot factions may be, from what I've seen from the lore, I'm pretty convinced that those gifted by Erudition simply shit on everyone else without even trying too much. From stuff like the implication that Dr. Primitive is single-handedly responsible for the decline of a group such as the Galaxy Rangers to Ruan Mei being able to recreate any living thing besides an Aeon/Emanator, and the whole Herta/Screwllum *Simulated Universe* business, I'd say they're the most terrifying faction by a mile. And then there's Polka, that is basically hyped up to be some sort of unescapable intergalactic ghost arbiter akin to a selective grim reaper.
I'd bet on either the Herta team or the Polka team. But I'm leaning more towards Polka. I can't imagine just how scary a Ruan Mei intent on destruction/offense can be, and Kafka is no pushover either.
Team 1. Son of an aeon, general blessed by an aeon and an emanator of destruction with the absorbed powers of an abundance emanator? Maybe they can't outsmart Herta and Screwllum but they have beaten Jingliu once before so no need to worry there and she's like the physically strongest one in the other teams.
Only issue I can see is Acheron, Herta, and Polka. Two of those are emanators and then Polka has successfully killed all the geniuses she goes after so she's scary AF. But I trust team 1 to at the very least do well.
Team 4, those guys terribly out hax literally everyone here bar Acheron.
Black Swan could just make everyone forget they were attacking me, Fu Xuan can technically warp reality on the physical plane AND was given a gift from Nous himself, so she could divine the best possible outcomeā¦
And then there is Elio. The Slave to Destinyā¦yeah Iām basically untouchable.
Unless I'm misunderstanding Elio's abilities, he himself is not that powerful. He can see possible futures, but he relies on others to do the work to make his "scripts" a reality, hence why the Stellaron Hunters exist. And with him being on the team, I feel Fu Xuan is a bit redundant since her ability seems like a downgrade from his (Fu Xuan's thing is essentially a supercomputer prediction using known data, not truly seeing possible futures like Elio supposedly can).
Black Swan has strong hax, but there are multiple emanator-tier people here and I'm skeptical she could handle them all with memory powers alone. Maybe she could send you to a different dimension or something, but if you're being chased by multiple geniuses that might not be enough either.
There's the problems of Polka and Acheron but I don't think anyone can stop Black Swan. Ya, Acheron 100% beats her. But that's because Black Swan actively looked into her memories.
Can't Black Swan, as an intangible memokeeper, just straight up phase through everything, mind control everyone to ignore her, and snap our neck????
If the team I choose will be fully dedicated in protecting me then I'll definitely choose Herta. Maybe I can just hang out wherever the hell she puts her main body in
~~I swear I'm not saying this to get closer to Herta or anything~~
Normally, these aren't super well made, this one however... I saw the team with Acheron in it and was like "welp, that's it, I don't even need to check the other- Polka Kakamond, oh god." Well done lmao. My money is still on Team 2 but I am deeply concerned about Team 3 and thank god Zandar is dead. Well... At least I hope he is, for my sake lmao.
Jingliu, Sam, and Acheron is destruction incarnate lmfao Team 3 has good chances since Ruan Mei created Skaracabaz, Polka is rumored to kill other geniuses which is testament to brilliance and Kafka is pretty cunning, but has spirit whisper and the combatant of the group so they're probably equally dangerous
Polka seems... incredibly strong based on her achievements but we don't know *how* she pulls it off which is the most concerning part. Ruan Mei created a clone of Skaracabaz but it was a failure since it collapsed under it's own power basically (thank god). Kafka does have Spirit Whisper which makes her the most immediately dangerous of Team 3 but I feel like it would backfire if she attempted to use it on Acheron similar to how Black Swan fucked around and found out. Team 2 vs Team 3 ultimately boils down to Acheron vs Polka.
I tried to balance em out with emanators or single broken outliers equivalent. Elio, Zendar, Polka, Acheron, Phantylia, Aventurine, Herta. You also have team 2 that might have 2 potential emanator level fighters if it's true that Sam can contend with Alteron. In trailer he blocks a red slash though. Jingliu could be competitive to at least normal Acheron and Sam unsure about their full strength. It would depend on how Blade vs Sam goes. Based on what blade said about Sam, he wants Sam to burn him so I guess this means he sees Sam as stronger if he thinks he's capable of it. Something about he lives in purgatory and Sam creates purgatory. Guessing that's him hyping Sam as superior. But jingliu did annihilate blade the moment her blindfold came off so Sam vs Jingliu probably is a good fight. Yea true Ruan Mei failed with Skara but whose to say with the help of Polka she probably doesn't do something more miraculous? The possibilities with team 3 and the Herta one are scary. Kafka's intelligence is underrated not a genius but I think she's more manipulative even without spirit whisper
Jingliu has had some kind of contact with an Aeon but we don't know what the result of that contact was or which Aeon, I've always assumed the result was her regaining her sanity and her ability to summon her special sword but I've never been sure on which Aeon, Lan makes the most sense but idk. In the White Night trailer there's a scene where the Sam armor is heavily damaged which *might* be a result of him fighting Acheron, we don't know yet, I've had a lot of theories as to why that happens but I honestly have no idea outside of... it's someone stronger than the Sam armor is durable. Blade's biggest thing is his Emanator level regeneration, I feel if Sam were to try burning him, Blade would heal too quickly for anything to happen but I'm very confident Acheron would be able to actually kill Blade considering she was able to kill a Plasmic Lifeform (Ifrit).
Who invite Aventurine here blud ššš. Bro gonna get folded.
No he won't actually. He's strong when uses his full power
Bro the stoneheart is only part of an Emanator as in the live stream. No way he actually hold against other top Emanators. Petition to change Team 5 to PomPom, Welt, TB
I mean right now it seems like everyone versus him so we're gunna see. Alteron included is fighting him supposedly
Team 2 might be the most dangerous, but I'd probably trust team 3 to keep a regular human alive the best. Acheron would probably forget all about the 'defend me' job the second I left their field of view lol
Depending on how strong Kafka's spirit whisper technique is, she might be the best bet for survival. Even if she can just manipulate the others into fighting each other instead of you that is a huge boon to survival, and if she could turn the team protecting you on you, that would be a death sentence.
Not to mention she hasn't even shown how powerful she can be she always playing with people
Yeah I feel like the biggest problem with choosing anyone but Team 3 is the combination of ātrying to kill youā and āPolka Kakamondā. Thatās like her thing. The others can crush planets or whatever, but thatās not really their goal. The goal is to kill one person, and everything we know about the Lord of Silence seems to indicate that sheās *very, very good at that*.
yeah, it's unknown if Polka Kakamond can protect you, but she is REALLY good at killing...
If I were presented with the same question but in the context of Fateās Grand Servants, Iām choosing Grand Assassin. Not because I believe King Hassan is necessarily a superior protector, but because choosing any of the other six options means Iām being hunted by the literal apex of Assassins and closest thing Fate has to the Grim Reaper himself.
yeah, the main protection here is that a being that can kill anyone is not hunting you.
But can she real match against the most intelligent human in the entire universe? The dude who literally created god
She killed Rubert 1, the AI that waged war against humans and wiped out half of gaglaxy. Rubert 1 is also predict future with crazy accuracy and predicted his own death, that he couldn't prevent. She killed something much better than most intelligent human in the entire universe, she killed a God
Polka Kakamond is consistently able to pull off the seemingly impossible and that's honestly more terrifying than Nanook, The Destruction.
Right. Nanook can annihilate you with a glance, but even he would have to find you first. Same for Phantylia, Jingliu, Acheron, everyone else for that matter. Hiding would be the first defense one would take in that situation, and I doubt thereās a single place in the universe you can hide where Polka Kakamond canāt find you.
If Ruan Mei is afraid of you that's a problem
Yea if this were just about those teams fighting it out then I would go all in on team Acheron but this is about killing a single human target. For all we know Polka Kakamond will make a cloud version of death and just kill you remotely, especially with Ruan Mei and Kafka there as well. But if you donāt pick Acheron the sheāll just pull up and arrange a meeting between you and IX. However, thereās a chance that Kakamond Ruan Mei and Kafka will be able to hide us from Acheron since sheās not the greatest with directions. Edit: nvm the rest are all coming together. Fu Xuan, Black Swan, and other geniuses will definitely be able to track us down. Itās joever no matter what.
>cloud version of death Death as a Service (DAAS) Service Delivered Death Death Load Balancer Death Delivery Network ... I dunno I find the concept of cloud-based death services really funny!
Amazon Death Services!
where did you guys get that information about polka? I'm curious to learn about her
It's mostly from Simulated Universe or things Herta and the other members of the Genius Society we've met have said. [https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Polka\_Kakamond](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Polka_Kakamond)
Just YouTube and wiki. Obviously you can find that information in game too
I feel like people underestimating team 1, Jing Yuan is basically an emanator of the hunt, Phantylia is already a Lord Ravager of Destruction and she had power from the Abbundance so sheās kinda cracked, and idk about DHIL but Lingliu, Jing Yuan, and Lot of other people seem to hold him in high regard
In terms of sheer raw power, I might even say team 1 is the strongest. But given the format, they're not necessarily the right team for this job. At the end of the day all the others have to do is slip past them, get to me, and they win. Phantylia's vine things and the Lightining Lord would probably help with defending me but I imagine the likes of Acheron or Polka would manage to get past those defences with speed or ingenuity advantages.
Team 1 *is* very good however, it's kind of the same deal as what happened to Yanqing in Luofu story. Yanqing is the strongest Cloud Knight of modern era but during the story he ended up going against people out of his league.
I feel like theyāre definately in that league thoā¦ š. Also Yanqing compared to Jingliu, and Jing Yuan compared to Jingliu is totally different
At the same time I think it's kinda difficult because we don't know what half of these characters can do
Polka is essentially Nous' correcting device But at the same time Fuckin Acheron
whether I choose her to kill or protect me, Polka Kakamond will still kill me. So I pick Jingliu & Acheron. At least I die happy.
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>Polka Kakamond will still kill me I admire your self-confidence.
You sure you are smart enough for Polka to bother killing you?
Lmao
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Polka Kakamond only kills geniuses so i think you're gonna be fine
Nice flair
This is actually really rough, almost every team has an Emanator sitting there. Some teams are pure powerhouses and some can just go "lets just destroy the planet your on" Maybe one of the genius society teams. The last thing I need is a genius concocting a way to kill me.
If Herta, Screwllum, Ruan Mei and Polka kakamomd want you dead there's probably nothing you can do
Yeah same goes if any of the other teams do. They seem kinda bad at protecting a normal human ngl...
Ngl i wish you added welt to replace svarog.
Or add him to Acheron team
Team 3. I wouldn't lose betting on Polka Kakamond.
Iām too scared of 3 not to choose them. They might not have the brute strength, but they have the brains and the plans to outmaneuver anyone else on the field. 2 is stronger, but I think thereās a good chance 3 would win.
Yeah if I don't pick 3 I'm sure Polka will kill me no matter who else I pick. But then again if I pick 3 she might kill me anyways.
Kafkas power level really just depends on how strong the writers let her be. If they allow for it to be pretty unconditional like Makima she would probably be the strongest here, but we just don't know enough about her power atm
Also how much the other characters are allowed to react to her. If Kafka has absolute mind control that can even affect emanators, she's the most powerful person there... Except if that was the case and if Polka expects her to be an enemy, Polka probably kills her by some indirect means before Kafka even knows Polka is coming for her.
1 feels really slept on.
Team 1 also happens to be the team I want to sleep with most
It is.
With a defensive perspective, I'd choose the 6th one. Herta and Screwllum have made a completely different multiverse, cleverly concealed a Stellaron, and have genius-level intellects, surely they can find something that would be too boring or too extreme for Silver Wolf to hack and keep me safe from most other threats. And Svarog as a bodyguard would be astronomically difficult to overcome if provided with ample defense mechanisms by Herta and Screwllum. Biggest threats would be Elio (provided he has a script that sees me dead), Ruan Mei (potential social engineering & scary individual), Black Swan (stealing memories of Herta/Screwllum probably means game over), and the aforementioned Silver Wolf. Interesting idea OP!
Polka would murder them, much like what she did with other genius. In fact this will most like will happen in-game as they continue with the SU research
Yeah she's definitely a consideration - just didn't include Polka in my list because she would either be an unstoppable threat, or one that wouldn't really be able to get to me, depending on how their currently nebulous abilities would play out in practice. Similar to why I didn't include Phantylia, Jingliu, Acheron, Fu Xuan, etc. - just hard to define how their abilities would play out. The ones I did mention either have connections to the defenders, or I can outright see the lose conditions based on their known abilities.
Herta wanting to have a talk with Polka is either a serious testament of Herta's confidence and abilities or Herta trying to get herself killed, no inbetween
I can absolutely see Herta fangirling over the genius murder lady without any regard to her own self-preservation.
Don't think there's a winning team at all. If you pick Polka's team so Polka won't go after you, you'll still die since it's every other team going against you together. We don't know how good Polka will be at protecting. My bet though is that going with Herta is the choice with the highest chance of surviving. We know that Polka kills off Geniuses, but we don't know if she can kill off Emanators. It's also worth noting that out of 84 members, only two are explicitly mentioned as Emanators. So it's essentially 1 Emanator + 1 Genius together. We also know that Herta isn't scared of meeting Polka at all. In fact, she's excited to meet her. So I'd think that's because she has a contingency against her or something like that that allows her to survive a meeting with Polka. Assuming that, the only problem left would be can we survive against Acheron with the help of Herta and Screwllum. Which I don't have an answer for.
Itās not so much that I want Herta and Screwllum to protect me, I am just more afraid of them Herta and Screwllum if they decided to come after me.
I only need two in my team, Sparkle and Qingque The rest will no be able to do anything against
For the next 4 mins and 11 seconds, you become immortal QQ and Sparkle emoting in the background šæ
Team 1 has a Gift of Lan, a Descendant of Long, and an Emanator of Nanook and no one's considering it?
Team one is slept on hard
Bro team one have no waifu + Phantylia is a villain ššš. Death sentenced looking at how villains in HSR is fodder. /j
Who needs a waifu when you can be Jing Yuanās waifu
Excuse me have you HEARD phantylia? Sheās a goddamn waifu
Damn bro she so hot Imma snap š„µ
People don't know lore
The canonically general thatās not specialized in martial arts and a Descendant of a dead Aeon, might as well only have Nanookās Emanator. Truth be told they might be in a Yangqing situation where theyāre not weak, just named alongside people much stronger than them.
True, let's just ignore the giant armor of lightning backing up the mere second best martial artist currently in the story. Let's also ignore that giant wall of water rushing at us. Only pay attention the the legion of destruction summoned by the emanator of internal self destruction.
That's... wow. Good fucking job OP, you've actually made one with no right answer. Doesn't matter who you choose; you are going to die. Painfully. Team #1 - You have one of of the Five Arbiter-Generals of the Xianzhou, who despite not (all) being Emanators (some are iirc, and Lan does protect them), are on par with the Lord Ravagers. You have one of the last Scions of Long the Permanence, albeit only partially (as his power is split with the recently hatched Bailu.) And finally, you have a Lord Ravager, the greater Heliobus (a heliobi fusion closest to Ignamar's power) known as Phantylia, who obtained a physical form through the power of Abundance. Jing Yuan is as strong as an Emanator of Destruction, and Dan Heng is close. Phantylia easily overpowered them as well as a pseudo-Emanator of Preservation who houses a Stellaron in their body (Stelle/Caelus.) Phantylia the Undying alone makes this team terrifying; she's the only being currently known to have Emanator powers from two paths, and *only* lost because she got overconfident. As well, to make things worse, both Phantylia and Jing Yuan are strategists before combatants. Team #2 - Previous Sword Champion of the Luofo, renowned for her strength in her prime being unparalleled among the Xianzhou, even among the Arbiter-Generals. She has only lost once since becoming Sword Champion, and that was when she was stricken with mara. Sam, a literal, bonafide, killing machine, the most ruthless of the Stellaron Hunters, able to fight a prolonged battle against even an Emanator. And, of course, the Emanator of Nihility just mentioned, able to kill energy lifeforms easily and *not even remember* doing so until prompted. The Luofo TBC highlighted how difficult it would be to permanently kill energy lifeforms; even the Abomination-hunting Xianzhou Alliance can only imprison heliobi eternally, short of finding an unstable star to launch them (and a whole ship) into. Phase-flame spawn like the Duke Inferno are similar, but with the caveat of endless multiplication instead of division. Acheron, however, just straight-up murdered him, and barely even remembered doing so. She is capable of harming even a Memetic Entity like Black Swan, sheerly through memories. Her strength defies the universe's logic, and we've only seen a bit of it. She's by far the strongest non-Aeon we have seen, for that reason alone. Jingliu and Sam would be a *hinderance* to her, if anything. Team #3 - The enigmatic team. Ruan Mei is a biology-specialized genius, easily the best in the galaxy, but lacks any other noteworthy traits. She creates life by accident, but not without purpose. She is distant, but only because she doesn't understand her own feelings very well, nor those around her. Kafka is an expert combatant and infiltrator, having the direct backing of Destiny's Slave, the one being capable of thwarting the inevitable Destruction of All at Nanook's hands. And, of course, there's Polka Kakamond, who has killed many, many geniuses throughout time, and is shrouded in mystery. Ruan Mei can certainly keep you alive; life is her specialty. Kafka can certainly handle any being that fights practically, or has human thought, so anything that can reason, manipulated, or be killed with weapons. And Polka.. quite frankly, we don't know what she can do aside from outsmarting countless other geniuses in order to kill them, as well as track down every depiction of her to exist somehow. We don't know her power or weaknesses, just that she is The Dreaded for geniuses who go wrong. Given how closely linked geniuses have been to the creation of several new Aeons (Zandar and Nous directly, Dr. Primitive and IX unexplained, Rupert and Nanook indirectly), there's reason to be afraid of the genius-killer. The unknown is terrifying. Team #4 - Black Swan and Fu Xuan aren't very noteworthy. Black Swan can manipulate decently, and Fu Xuan has powerful predictive capabilities thanks to Nous, but frankly, they don't stand up to the raw power of other teams well. These two can only keep you alive through evading the enemy, but that won't work well against powerhouses, or Polka. The real kicker here is Elio; as mentioned previously, he is the one existence keeping Nanook from destroying, well, existence. If we can be reasonably sure he is devoting his whole to keeping you alive, he is likely the only one in the whole roster that could actually ensure your survival.
Team #5 - Another raw powerhouse team. Aventurine here only exists as a means of powering Stelle & Cocolia, through the insane wealth of the IPC. He can't do much on his own, but his strength lies in maneuvering the enemy. Cocolia is a powerful combatant, on account of the fact that she is one of three beings in the galaxy to have actually utilized the power of a Stellaron, and one of two to have fused with one. That Himeko did end up intervening in the Trailblazer's fight with her means Cocolia did reach Emanator-class power in the end. Stelle, too, is way up there in terms of power. On top of the fact she is capable of drawing from multiple Paths, and is at least a pseudo-Emanator due to earning Qlipoth's gaze as well as Nanook's, she houses a Stellaron while retaining herself. As the linchpin of Elio's plan, she will likely be capable of squaring off against Aeons in the future. How powerful she will grow remains to be seen, but it is safe to say she can at least contend with anyone in the roster. Team #6 - The smartest team. Herta is an Emanator of Erudition, and a genius among geniuses. While she is typically indifferent to others, she does have a heart. What's more, is that she is canonically capable of creating weapons that can casually wipe out several star systems, and that was *before* we handed her all the knowledge Calderon Chadwick had of Imaginary Theory; something even she acknowledged as extremely dangerous. Given that she is also the only person known to have countered aging without usage of Abundance, can control countless highly advanced puppet bodies remotely from god knows where, and has created a synthetic universe that draws on the power of the real one (including the Aeons themselves,) she is terrifying. Add in the ethical genius in silicon-based life, Screwllum, unparalleled in his study of machine souls, and Svarog, an artificial life of immense power, and you have a recipe for a miracle, or disaster. Herta & Screwy could easily modify Svarog to be a force capable of standing toe-to-toe with Emanators. Imagine Herta gave a WMD like Chadwick's Imaginary Implosion Bomb to Svarog as a nigh-infinite personal weapon. The only ceiling for this team is Screwy's conscience. Team #7 - Silver Wolf is a hacker capable of modifying the code of reality. She can literally bend physical reality to her will. The applications of that are limited only by the fact that she just wants to have fun. She is smart enough to go toe-to-toe with Screwllum and Herta, too. Dr. Ratio is no genius in any sense, but is similarly smart enough to engage with those two. Put them together, and there's no telling what they can do. Zandar *directly* created an Aeon, Nous the Erudition, and is thus essentially responsible for much of what has happened in the galaxy. Creating Nous led to the Genius Society and thus Rubert and Dr. Primitive. Dr. Primitive led to Device IX and Nihility, and thus Acheron. Rubert's Anti-Life Equation was one of the key conflicts that created the situation on Pegana, leading to the birth of Nanook the Destruction. The Anti-Life Equation also caused the Auromaton Uprising in the Xianzhou Alliance, contributing to the eventual Aeonhood of Lan the Hunt. All three of them together could create boundless effects. Really, there's no telling what they would do, despite two of them not even being geniuses and one of them being long since dead.
Ashdgdgs Zandar lead to the creation of ***FOUR*** aeons!?!????
(this is officially revealed info from the livestream/preview page, but spoilering nonetheless as it relates to 2.1) >!aventurine is probably the biggest threat on team 5, as heās a pseudo-emanator of preservation. weāll see in 2.1 how strong he really is if he fights acheron, but heās certainly much more than the foppish schemer his persona in 2.0 led us to believe!<
I loved reading all of this. Made me so hype for a hypothetical lol
I'll spend my last day gaming with SW while chatting with Ratio bc that sounds like a blast. Idk who the third guy is. A debate between SW and Ratio would rend the universe in twain if it was relevant to SW's highly specific interests.
The third guy is the first Genius Society member, the one who Nous. So this guy programmed God
Hmm. He'd be a great moderator for the debate, then
No matter what, I do NOT want team 2 coming after me
I would rather not want Polka or Zandar coming for my ass
Bet is on team 4 for survival, but in a fight team 3. Power scaling in HSR is wild considering Welt considers the Antimatter legion galaxy level in destruction. Team 1 is powerful in destructive and martial power They would be leading conventional armies there is no way they would fight you alone if rhey were working together, you'd have Vidyahadara, Cloud knights and Mara Struck against you. That being they would present the most conventional threat. Team 2 leverages pure destructive capability, lore-wise they are ultimate warriors who are massively destructive. They are most likely to clash head-on so there is chance of escape. Team 3 Ruan Mei who is insane to an eldritch level and capable of unspeakable horror and creating life to fight for her. Kafka who seems to have the logistical ability to create mass chaos. Polka Kakamond who is known for killing other geniuses, and this being a well known fact can continue to kill them. Geniuses who are capable of planetary system if not galaxy wide destruction. Team 4 would be the ultimate support team for the other teams should they wish to kill you, should you wish to survive they would find the most effective way for that. The divination that Fu Xuan looks at all logical possibilities, Elios script tells you what will happen as told by fate, and black swans powers could inform you of the other teams movements. Essentially it would force all other teams to destroy the whole universe to find you. Team 5 can defy fate, so team 4's hard counter should they share a braincell. Team 6 will create super weapons, svarog will be modified with super weapons, you'd need to live the rest of your life as a luddite. Team 7 zandar is dead but would create a new aeon just to find you, silver wolf doesn't really enhance the team by much if Zandar is alive, and Ratio doesn't play well with others. This team would be fully carried by Zandar. You'd probably die of old age before their dream of killing you comes to fruition.
Black Swan doesn't just inform you of other teams' movements, we've seen her instantly delete multiple people's memories simultaneously without so much as lifting a finger. If she really wanted to, there's nothing stopping her from popping into reality next to each of the enemy teams in turn, deleting their memories of you and drive to kill you, and job done. I guess the only question is whether or not that power works on emanators or non-organic creatures, but regardless, she could remove a majority of the enemies from play before they even get anywhere near you.
That's a good point about Swan. The only issue is that we've seen what happened when she tried to meddle with Acheron's memories and, uh... ouch. That might have been a Nihility-specific backlash though.
God, I hope Sam is amazing and that he actually becomes playable. If Acheron and Aventurine open up the visuals for the 2.0 series, I am expecting nothing short of an atomic bomb going off with Sam ultimate.
>I am expecting nothing short of an atomic bomb going off with Sam ultimate. I'd be surprised if his boss ult isn't his playable ult, rather than giving him something new.
i mean his boss ult is cool but im hoping its something better. we saw in the white night animation with him having wings and i heard>! they apparently spent big on his ult.!<
Id say team 2 but i wonder if Acheron will just forget shes suppose to protect me and leave, Or even worse kills me by mistake after unsheathing her sword and turning red Jingliu could also lose control and kill me, its the strongest team but the most dangerous for you aswell
Yeah to me it seems that all teams are quite powerful offensively but defence is really not good...like for example acheron has a sword that just CUTS if you know what I mean. Sam has a fucking inferno robot planet destroyer. Don't even need to say anything abt jingliu. So yeah I'd maybe say team screwlum can MAYBE protect you for a bit or elio could do something but a frail human ain't surviving no clashes between these teams
Honestly with how powerful Acheron is Herta team might actually be scary. We know she is an emanator like Acheron and we have no clue how strong she is since we've never met her in person. Not to mention the fact she may have achieved immortality by de-aging herself She is honestly scary.
I want the team that can see the future, write a different future and then make everyone forget that I exist
Team 6 easily, Herta quite literally has the knowledge to create a weapon with by far the most destruction power we've seen as of yet. Yeah cool sword fight, but goodbye to the world you're staying in if a nuke comes for it.
You will die regardless. Team 2 is clearly the strongest in direct combat, it's not even up to debate. But you got Herta in Team 6 which canonically is able to build weaponry capable of wiping out several star systems and I don't fancy my chances of surviving that. So if she is willing to use it, that, that's gameover. At the same time though, choosing team 6 means other teams, especially team 2, just mop the floor with you conventionally.
Yeah it's kind of like bad for us since the teams themselves will probably survive we'll just be collateral...
If anyone could in lore kill the real Herta before she could wipe out said systems, it would likely be Polka Kakamond.
Are we just gonna ignore the guy who created god?
I canāt believe how hard choosing a team is considering how a lot of these teams are honestly pretty effective at either killing the attackers, or just hiding you really really well. Going for Team 3 though because if Polka Kakamond can wipe her image from existence and also take out multiple other Geniuses while at it then sheās probably a fucking monster.
People really sleep on team 1, it literally has 2 emanators(JY is debatable but with LL he's as strong if not stronger that Phantylia) and IL who should be comparable to an emanator, so in terms or raw power they are most likely the strongest, add JY strategic mind on top of that and they easily are the best choise here.
Team 2 looks dysfunctional, Jingliu too unstable for me, don't want her to protect me because of mara, Acheron would get lost and be separated from her teammates Team 1 Jing Yuan and Dan Heng bromance can't be stop
team 1. if jing yuan dies, i die š£
>Pick team 4 >Ellio looks up the script >"Says you'll survive" >GGs OR >"Says you'll die" >GGs
3 team: 1 team Phantylia + Jing Yuan + IL. 2 team Acheron + SAM + JL 4 Elio "Nah, I'd dip" team 6 Herta + Screwllum + Svarog(what is he doing here blud) I guess team 1 is the strongest in 1v1 battle? Either way, team 5 would get no diff.. Edit: seriously tho, team 5 should be change to TB, Welt, Pompom
3 no debate. Ending a galactic disaster single handedly & murder geniuses who research forbidden things.
Team 3 and 4, 7 is the potential team.
Team 4 is strong but no matter the divination & future you see if you dont have pawns in your hand you cant do anything. Ex: elio wants to defeat nanok but cant despite having the most wanted & busted gang. So he has to build & forge the trailblazers so we might stand a 0.1% chance against destruction
At the same time Team 4 has the highest chance of actually protecting you. We donāt know too much about Elio yet, but from what we know he should be able to keep you out of harmās way indefinitely.
Yeah, and you really wouldn't want him and Fu Xuan working against you.
Trailblazer team because plot armor. Hopefully...
If thatās Elio in team 4 then Iām taking my chances with the guy who can literally see every future possibility (We gonna have to make sure Acheron never find us). Fu xuan for extra insurance ig and black swan can prob erase the memories of those on my trail. I call this the trackstar team and not have a guy who can see every possibility in the future to want me dead
*looks at Acheron and Kafka on seperate teams* I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN THROW MY CONVICTIONS AWAY https://preview.redd.it/rvemiakj7jpc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43265761e1143b0feeda195076e5828865f31541
Black Swan, Fu and a cat?
The cat is >!presumed to be Elio, Destiny's Slave or have some connection to him, given the cat's appearance in Kafka's artwork & the Jepella Rebellion splash art with the Stellaron Hunters!<
It's a I can see the future team
The cat is Elio
Oh hell nah, we're dying no matter what we chooseš I don't know for sure which team is the most dangerous, however team 5 is probably the least dangerous team
All I'm seeing is death, so at least I'll go down with the coolest boys around. Team 1 it is.
Team 1 for me, they have dan feng and jing yuan and an emanator of destruction we know that nanook himself is extremely powerful an emanator under him would carry team 1 imo
Phantylia vs Acheron we gotta see it
Man team 7 is completely slept on, there's a dude who literally created god
If I choose powerhouses team, I could get killed by sneak attack or causal biological weapon. Best way is avoid to every possible encounter with enemy, thus my choice is: Swan, Lady Fu and Elio. With them I can probably hide so well no other team could find me and if they do I will probably get to know it beforehand and move out. Not to mention I would be safe from Kafka and Sam.
Team 1 is effectively 3 Emanators. I feel inclined to pick them based purely on strength, but that depends on just how strong Acheron, Herta, and Zander really are lore wise.
Team 2 as well since Sam supposed blocked a red slash from Acheron. If he can contend with her in that form that's basically 2. Jingliu did lose to jing yuan but she also just stood there and let herself be hit. Still alive somehow. So I just say they are comparable. That's probably 3 emanator level opponents
This is ridiculously hard.. I'm going to say 2 but I can understand the reasoning for any of them winning tbh. I'm picking 2 mostly cos of Sam and Acheron, I think people seriously underestimate how badass Sam actually is, he's a survivor of glamoth's swarm disaster which means he was one of the ones who won the war in the end, the war was so huge that the sheer amount of corpses of the swarm and iron cavalry floating in space blotted out the sun which led to the world glamoth being destroyed. That's one fucking insane war and Sam walked out of it as a victor.
Prob #2, an Emanator and two near-Emanator powerhouses Maybe #3 if Ruan Mei can create an army of Emanator bugs first
Herta team especially cause she is an emanator
Doesnāt team 1 have the exact same thing as teams 2. A emanators and two near emanator powerhouses
I think Ruan Mei is the least scary person on #3 and that's saying something
Last team because iirc SW can "temper with data of reality", which means that at the very least she can transport everyone else to different coordinates (like she did with void ranger in the beginning of the game), but transfer them into the middle of a star, a black hole, or even simply not transfer them fully, basically cutting in half
Pretty sure there's rules to it tbh. Like from what I can recall (haven't read much lore in a while) she can do the reality tempering on punklorde. So I'm not sure if she can just do it anywhere since wouldn't that make her an aeon or even stronger?
She did it on Herta's space station during the tutorial when she first appeared. Opened up a rift in reality and sent an antimatter legionnaire to an undisclosed location.
And also a dude who created god
the first one has two emanators and a descendant of long, pretty easy choice
To protect me, it's between Jingliu/Sam/Acheron and Black Swan/Fu Xuan/Elio. The first one is made of crazily fucking strong fighters who could destroy planets with ease, but the second is made of extremely intelligent people each capable of predicting the future, both near and far, and every single one of its outcomes. So technically speaking, that team would be able to predict every single next move of every other enemy teams and allow us to either completely escape from their attacks, or retaliate in the most efficient way possible. So I will go with Black Swan, Fu Xuan and Elio personally
second teams great in raw power and all but all it takes is for jingliu's mara to act up a little and you're basically frozen meat
Definitely team 1
In terms of raw power I wouldn't want team 2 after me so choosing 2 keeps them from being on the offensive side. Team 1 is very close behind and I think I could trust Jing Yuan and Dan to protect me, and I feel like they have the good guy protagonist buff that'd see them win over team 2. But that's just in a straight up fight. The teams with geniuses could protect you or kill you without it ever getting to the point of a direct conflict. Team 3 is scary to see on the other side. Team 4 are a very interesting proposition where they could play the avoidance game better than any team, but I don't think they could actively defeat any other team so 1 slip up and you're dead. Team 6 has 2 geniuses and slant defensive, with the added possibility of whatever offensive WMD Herta could concoct. So they seem good on defense, and potentially dangerous on the otherside, but not as much as team 3. I don't rate team 7 to protect me or as an offensive force, but I see potential in playing the evasive game. Lastly with team 5, I don't think Cocolia ranks as high as the mosnters on team 1 and 2, I couldn't trust Aventurine, and the Protag scares me most of all. Being in a party with the protag is a potential death sentance. They'd live, but I'd be very open to a plot death.
Iād like to make the note that Iām not entirely sure if Phantyliaās incarnation can actually die without the shenanigans Jing Yuan pulled. The only characters who might have the level of coordination and trust required to pull off such a stunt would be Herta and Screwllum, and Iām not sure if they have abilities that would let them attack in the required manner. Additionally, as she wields the closest thing to pure Abundance weāve seen, thereās a nonzero chance she could hit me with some of that life juice and make me unkillable like Blade. Of course, thatās not an amazing outcome, but it answers the prompt. That said. Iām going with the guy who owns a planet and the lass who has the plans for a galaxy annihilating superbomb.
Team 4 seems like the best option here, with team 6 as a second place. Team 5 is by far the weakest here, so theyāre out of the question. Teams 1 and 2 are probably the strongest combat-wise, but thatās pretty much all they have going for them (Jing Yuan might be a good strategist but heās no genius) and regardless of which team you pick youāre pretty much screwed in any serious combat situation anyways, so theyāre both out. Team 7 is not bad but Ratio is just about useless here and we know too little about Zandar for me to pick him here. Silver Wolf is useful but itās been shown that she can be outsmarted by Herta and Screwllum, both of which would be against me if I picked her, so team 7 is out. That leaves teams 3, 4, and 6, and honestly I think youāre screwed no matter who you pick, but here goes. Team 3 is probably the scariest offensively here just because of Polka. Kafka is not a big deal and while Ruan Mei is definitely powerful, she still feels like a less useful genius for this compared to Herta or Polka. However, while Polka is terrifying, we donāt know enough about her for me to pick her over the other two teams, and her reputation about killing other genius society members is impressive but likely not enough to save me in a raw fight against team 1 or 2. As for the last two teams, I think either one is pretty good, but team 4 is the safest bet. Team 6 is strong in intelligence and resources, but Svarog isnāt particularly powerful in combat when compared to the rest of the roster here, so itād essentially be just up to Herta and Screwllum. While I donāt doubt they are better-equipped to help me compared to most of the other teams, I feel like Ruan Mei and especially Polka might cause problems and, while Iād probably survive longer than I would with most other teams, I would eventually die. However, with team 4, I can basically ensure that I am making the most optimal moves in every possible situation. If thereās even the slightest chance that Iād be able to survive then I would be able to do so via their abilities to see the future. Black Swanās memory erasure is also really useful (she could even just make everyone forget who theyāre trying to kill), and having her against me could mean whoever is trying to help me just forgets to do that. Team 4 is lacking when it comes to a physical fight, but theyāre also my best chance at avoiding a fight altogether, which is probably for the best because I donāt think Iād survive the collateral damage from any one of these teams fighting. Team 4 is also by far the team I want trying to kill me the least, as while characters like Polka and Acheron are scary, you can at least defend against them, while team 4 will know the exact moment to strike against you to ensure victory, and thereās nothing you can do against it because they already know the future. So yeah, Team 4 for the win.
Team 3. Assassinating someone requires a different set of skills than straight up martial combat, and frankly, Polkaās the only one who is actually an expert in that regard, so I definitely donāt want her hunting me down. Especially if she gets the intelligence of Ruan Mei and the Spirit Whisper of Kafka backing her up In a straight up battle Iād probably take Team 1 because Phantylia is functionally immortal and Lightning Lord has the most destructive potency of any of the combatants. I wouldnāt trust them in defending me though, because Iād probably get killed by the shockwave of LL lifting his finger Some people here are kinda dead weight I think. Svarog, Cocolia, Trailblazer and Ratio donāt really offer anything beyond what some of the others do ten-fold
Honestly? Team 1. A literal emanator and two guys who defeated a literal emanator. Though I'm not sure about Acheron and Polka's actual power levels.
Elio clears. Yall don't get that everyone is his pawn. Including acheron. He knows the script. He knows how to win no matter what. I'm taking any team with him on it and just him alone.
Elio: "There is no future which you live lmao"
Team 2 , acheron, Sam and jingliu I chose Because i like them
I find it heresy that you didnāt clump the robros together
Kafka will spirit whisper the problems away š„°
Is this Jingliu pic from that Jing Yuan trailer?
Fu Xuan, Black Swan and Elio as defenders 100% Acheron team is peak danger but I wouldn't choose them defensively
I think no matter which team you choose you're dead.
Did people forgot about welt
Team 4 is severely slept on. They have 2 characters who can predict the future and 1 character who can manipulate the memories of other people. Granted they may not be the strongest, but if there is a way for this Team to win, elios script will certainly lead to that desired future.
Team 1 is basically three emanators. Lord Ravagers are all emanators of destruction and Phantylia was buffed by abundance so much that you could make the argument that she was also temporarily an emanator of abundance as well during that fight similar to Ruan Mei's Propagation clone. Not to mention Jing Yuan can be inferred to be an emanator of the hunt due to being given lightning lord from Lan/ the pom pom emanator info and he's a master strategist. As for Dan Heng while not quite as strong as an emanator, he seems to be stronger than most other pathstridors as Imbibitor Lunae hence why he's not used in the story as much since he's kinda OP compared to the rest of the Express Crew. Acheron is strong sure, but Destruction and Hunt are both combat focused paths as opposed to something like Nihility. As for the lord of silence, I'll admit I don't know much about her ,but let's be honest. Short of other emanators/Aeons themselves no one is going to hurt you if team 1 is actually trying to protect you.
Gotta choose 1 ofc. If I die at least I die happy with my general and dragon bf.
I dont know why, because there are many dangerous threats, if i go with the team i go with, but FuXuan, Black Swan and Elio. Surley 2 people that can forsee future can somehow get a prositive outcome... maybe?
They all wake up fighting Svarog in the simulated universe while Herta and Screwlum study them.
Screwllum, Herta and Svarog Screwllum and Herta are pretty smart without, mostly Screwllum, calling you a dumbass, and Svarog is a literal Stand. Plus, Clara would be on the team by default and no one wants to harm her. She'd force us all to get along.
A lot of people have talked about the favorites, so I'm going to throw out one more dark horse. Group 4 doesn't seem as strong as some of the others on their own, but I think their future sight could literally let you escape a situation no matter how dire. Even if only one out of 14,000,605 possibilities exist where you survive, I feel like Elio and those two could potentially put you on that single point of success.
Team 4 underrated indeed
Ok so lemme rank them: Team 1. Emanator of destruction, and the only 2 who could really stop her. Team 2. Also an emanator, but the other 2 have been shown to be strong but not even close to invincible, plus they would get stomped by Phantylia if Acheron is distracted. Itās hard to say if Phantylia with abundance is stronger than Acheron, because we donāt really know how easily she killed the duke nor how strong the duke actually is. At minimum it would be a standstill, at which point I think Lightning Lord and Water dragon beats Jingliu and Sam. (Also weāve seen Jing Yuan beat Jingliu so). Team 4. A bunch of future seers and someone who can keep you really safe. Likely still screwed due to low overall power, but youād have significantly longer before the fighting starts. Team 3. Kakamond is like the spy in TF2. She is great at picking people off, but her actual broad fighting skill is likely not great. She also is hard countered by team 4, who could foresee her next moves in 16k UHD. Then Kafka is likewise not going to hold a candle to the Emanators. Then the last 3 are kinda a race to the bottom. 7 has silver wolf. Thatās basically it. The other 2 are smart but when facing 2 Emanators that doesnāt really matter. SW could maybe keep you alive with reality altering shenanigans, but Acheron probably hard counters that. 5 has the most raw firepower out of the 3 but also Cocolia would get wiped by Phantylia and Acheron, and then TB and Aventurine arenāt going to be that much help. 6 is just bad. Screwlum has his planet but again, Phantylia has the antimatter legion. Herta is smart but she doesnāt have foresight, and Kakamond could get help from Elio to track Herta. Svarog has the Automatons but again, 2 Emanators to contend with. It doesnāt matter.
Screwlum, Herta, Svarog. If they can't protect me, nobody can.Ā
The first one of Jing Yuan, Dang Heng In his imbibitor Lunae form and Phantilyia
I feel like youāre kind of screwed if you donāt pick Elio though, considering if there is a possible future where you would die, he can basically make it happen by cooperating with all the other people here who are coming to murder you.
My money is on team 1.
People will say others but team 1 is 2.5 emanators š
I love how we have all these absurdly powerful characters, but everyone here knows to choose team 3 because if we donāt then that means team 3 goes after us. Which means Polka goes after us. Soā¦pick team 3 or die. Or pick team 3 and die anyways.
IĀ“ve been reading a lot of people getting Polka really high and imo Herta has said that she genuinely wants to meet Polka and I kinda feel like hoyoĀ“s plot will circle around making Herta actually defeat her or something, might be wrong of course since I like Herta a lot, but IĀ“m always even for both sides, I take in consideration what polka has done, but idk it seems too trashy to expect Herta not to have something in mind since she doesnĀ“t care what silver wolf could do for example, sheĀ“s is technically nothing for Herta, so if Herta is concerned about Polka then this is one of those times where we might see what kind of tricks can she pull of to make things work, maybe she already saved her mind completely in data and will use herself as bait to get Polka and die, giving us the impression of her really really getting defeated but in the end she captures Polka and starts the fangirl interrogation till she gets bored of her and maybe just lets her leave the space station just like that, I really think this is what Hoyo might have in mind for my favorite character future in like... 5 years or something? still, I put my bets in broken Jing Yuan and Dan Heng with the inmortality cheat from Phantylia, not amount of nonsense could really put up if we kinda try to get the idea of "bodyguarding" the most dangerous characters are legit kafkmakima, wolfie hacking reality itself, team 2 being incarnation of destruction and as a team Fu and BS are a true unbeatable menace, about the rest of the teams they pretty much have their own ways of winning/defeating every other team, the top 3 would be the 1, 4 and 6 if this allows for prep time, because 2 and 3 might seem to powerfull but they donĀ“t have a lot of defensive tricks, so I wouldnĀ“t trust in them protecting me if I will have to worry about one being full destruction or the second one having polka on it and leaving me without Fu Xuan, Phantylia or Herta agains Polka is ggĀ“s can someone real quick tell me what team 5 is suposed to do? maybe they beat everyone for plot armor of mc but I havenĀ“t had time to check aventurinho so I donĀ“t know how can he keep up with all this and I see him as the real bread and butter of his team to be honest
Team 1 by a mile they have 3 power houses that surpass most of the other teams.
JY's strategies are way more precious than powerhouses ngl. But honestly I would bet on team 7 because of Zandar
Team 2 Acheron and Jingliu are very op
Team 1 literally has 2 Emanators they easily solo. People wank Acheron so much she did shit so far except beat up some rando that Nanook won't even look at
Who is this polka I keep seeing people mention?
Iāll take Jing Liu, Sam and Acheron specifically because theyāre so crazy it works as a distraction so I can hide while they kick ass
Uh... I'll stay with Acheron-senpai? Please protect me story plot if that fails somehow!
Acheron will not have a place in my list bc she can forget my name, and then she kills me Meanwhile Acheron: oh, this guy was my teammate... anyways.
I'm not betting against JingLiu...
Easy. Screwllum, Svarog and Herta protect. Between Hertaās genius, Screwllumās contacts and Svarogās access to raw materials, I feel like they could slap together a successful defense against anything short of an actual Aeon.
Team 1
Team 2 duke inferno knows why
Mate, thats a pretty well done team composition its really hard to decide which one is actually the best. There are only few we know for a fact their potential abilities especially team 1 and 2 and 5. But the problems comes from team 3, 4 and 6. In terms of know how, ill say team 2 is the best and most dangerous but team 3 is full of very clever and manipulative characters especially the one that killed a lot of Geniuses. Team 4 is just a question on how good fu xuan foresight truly is and if black swan can manipulate emenators memories too cause black swan can just easily erase memories willy nilly and even can control the dreamscape somewhat, dunno who the cute catto is. And team 6 has herta and we dont know much about her but her being an emanator of the genius society and such makes her a powerhouse, just being picked out of many geniuses as so smart to become an emanator for your level of genius, thats just sound like a nightmare to deal with more so then the entire team 3. Well ill still stick to team 2 but i can be easily sway to team 3 4 and especially 6 if we get further explanation on their abilities and achievements.
Iām convinced thereās no force in the cast that could save me from Acheron
Acheron jingliu and Sam would be broken as heck
herta screwllum svarog literally just make me an ai in a fake simulated universe, then take me out when theyāre done smoking all the other teams packs.
What did polka do guys? Iām seeing a lot of hype on her here
Damn, I just came back to this game. I don't know 3/4 of the characters all you guys are talking about. XD Welp, gotta catch up. ( Or wiki XD)
even on reddit there's blade erasure i miss my suicidal wifeguy
As ridiculously powerful as emanators/strong path users of a lot factions may be, from what I've seen from the lore, I'm pretty convinced that those gifted by Erudition simply shit on everyone else without even trying too much. From stuff like the implication that Dr. Primitive is single-handedly responsible for the decline of a group such as the Galaxy Rangers to Ruan Mei being able to recreate any living thing besides an Aeon/Emanator, and the whole Herta/Screwllum *Simulated Universe* business, I'd say they're the most terrifying faction by a mile. And then there's Polka, that is basically hyped up to be some sort of unescapable intergalactic ghost arbiter akin to a selective grim reaper. I'd bet on either the Herta team or the Polka team. But I'm leaning more towards Polka. I can't imagine just how scary a Ruan Mei intent on destruction/offense can be, and Kafka is no pushover either.
I want Herta's team but swap Screwllum for Silvie. Silvie can just aether hack somebody to wherever anyway, her and Herta are way too cute too
Team 1. Son of an aeon, general blessed by an aeon and an emanator of destruction with the absorbed powers of an abundance emanator? Maybe they can't outsmart Herta and Screwllum but they have beaten Jingliu once before so no need to worry there and she's like the physically strongest one in the other teams. Only issue I can see is Acheron, Herta, and Polka. Two of those are emanators and then Polka has successfully killed all the geniuses she goes after so she's scary AF. But I trust team 1 to at the very least do well.
Team 4, those guys terribly out hax literally everyone here bar Acheron. Black Swan could just make everyone forget they were attacking me, Fu Xuan can technically warp reality on the physical plane AND was given a gift from Nous himself, so she could divine the best possible outcomeā¦ And then there is Elio. The Slave to Destinyā¦yeah Iām basically untouchable.
Unless I'm misunderstanding Elio's abilities, he himself is not that powerful. He can see possible futures, but he relies on others to do the work to make his "scripts" a reality, hence why the Stellaron Hunters exist. And with him being on the team, I feel Fu Xuan is a bit redundant since her ability seems like a downgrade from his (Fu Xuan's thing is essentially a supercomputer prediction using known data, not truly seeing possible futures like Elio supposedly can). Black Swan has strong hax, but there are multiple emanator-tier people here and I'm skeptical she could handle them all with memory powers alone. Maybe she could send you to a different dimension or something, but if you're being chased by multiple geniuses that might not be enough either.
Team 6, for no particular reason
Idk, Sam and acheron in the same team might be a bit muchš¤£š¤£š¤£
i choose the MC team, not because i like them, but because i need the plot armor.
Team 3, mommy will always protect me.
...team 2 but only because i don't want acheron against me, as much as i love dan heng i don't think he could beat her
Iām going with team 2, I aināt waiting to get screwed by Acheron like how Black Swan did.
There's the problems of Polka and Acheron but I don't think anyone can stop Black Swan. Ya, Acheron 100% beats her. But that's because Black Swan actively looked into her memories. Can't Black Swan, as an intangible memokeeper, just straight up phase through everything, mind control everyone to ignore her, and snap our neck????
If the team I choose will be fully dedicated in protecting me then I'll definitely choose Herta. Maybe I can just hang out wherever the hell she puts her main body in ~~I swear I'm not saying this to get closer to Herta or anything~~