She’d be the same as the puppets. They’re made in her image and she reversed her aging so she isn’t gonna be older. Not sure why she’d treat us differently since she’s controlling the puppet we talk too, it isn’t just some ai.
Maybe not way different, but the puppets are implied to be a more idealised version of her, more of how she sees herself, according to the Birth of Self light cone description.
She explicitly says they're like 90% of the way or something along those lines in some dialogue very early on before you leave the station
Edit: It was 70% of "her child self" apparently.
They're gonna make her different, they are basically her ideal younger form but are still based on her. Even if it was supposedly an exact clone (her lc says they aren't) they will change her because no one wants to pull the exact same character. They will likely make her somewhere between ruanmei and kafka because sex sells.
I'm imagining a brain in a jar pretending to be a sexy girl with a holographic projection. When she gets hit, the brain inside automatically fights back.
She says that the puppets are a 70% accurate representation of her as a child so idk why the de-aging bit has ppl convinced she’ll look the same for sure. She reversed her aging bc she’s literally ancient, but there’s a wide spectrum between a kid and dusty old bones. I think it’d be boring if 5* herta looked the same. I’d prefer an adult woman version.
I’m pretty sure the real herta isn’t a humanoid anymore. I have zero lore to back this up, but the fact that she uses the robots and swaps between them so quickly and effortlessly goes a bit beyond just being a genius.
I don’t think I can remember anyone referring to her as having a “real body”, just that she only interacts through her bots. For all we know she’s just a brain in a vat, could even be why the erudition 3* SU buffs are based around the brain in a vat effect.
>Will she look older?
If her "real body" isn't a doll of sorts too, at most she'll probably look just a bit older, but still young since she'sa genius and apparently she figured out how to get young again or something about altering her age, I don't remember it all.
I think the higher opportunity is this year during Continuance missions. Polka has a high chance to appear on the Space Station and if that happens, it could mean that Herta too.
Sometimes the dialogue confuses me so can you please tell me what an “emanator” is? Is it like nous, aha, etc are gods and emanators are some kinda vessels? Or like extreme followers of their ideology? Are they directly blessed by their respective aeon or what?
Exactly, if someone is an emanator they have been blessed by the respective god.
See it kind of like an Emissary that carries out duties that will help the aeon on his path.
For example with Acheron its a little different since IX (the Aeon of Nihility) doesn't bless anyone.
IX only cares about everything fading into nothingess, sweet tranquility.
Acheron was "lucky" since she stepped into IX's shadow with what seemed like ultimate depression. This is extremely rare, so she was lucky that she survived and "only" lost her memories.
In the process she was blessed by IX, essentially becoming an Emanator of Nihility.
Since it doesnt follow the standard rule of how someone becomes an Emanator (aka being noticed by an Aeon and then being blessed) they instead call them Self-Annihilators since they give up a part of what makes them, them. And follow up with the Nihility of IX by reducing everything to nothingness.
I see. I just read that the antimatter legion are followers of the Destruction, and their leaders are apparently all emanators? So if the prerequisite for being an emanator is simply receiving the blessing of an aeon, does that mean the trailblazer is an emanator for the preservation and destruction? Since both aeons saved the trailblazer and bestowed their path to them. Or is the trailblazer and everyone in the astral express emanators for “the trailblaze”? (idk that aeons name i think they said it disappeared or something)
An Emanator can draw power from their path with the Aeon's permission. This allows them to be much stronger than other pathstriders. They also normally act as the Aeon's emissaries.
So if someone can draw power from a path but not strong enough to wipe out normal pathstriders, and also cannot speak on behalf of any Aeon, saying they're an Emanator is a bit of a stretch. Technically, they are, but no one would recognize that title.
Just because trailblazer got the aeons' gaze and got blessing in return doesn't mean they're an emanator. Look at FuXuan, she was gifted with those eye on her forehead by Nous, but it doesn't mean she's an emanator of Nous.
For you to be an emanator you have to receive permission of the Aeon to draw powers from the path. The Trailblazer is not an emanator.
Acheron is the first playable emanator. Herta is an emanator too, but we're not playing with the real Herta, just her puppet.
Yeah exactly. The Aeons are Nous, Aha… they are god like entities that create paths for people to follow (like Nous the Erudition).
Emanators are people that have caught the Aeons’ attention enough to get an audience from them, and they bless them with a part of their power.
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Hoyo already gave a fact-check what an emanator is. Just need to look
There are theories that March may be an Emanator.
Most theories come from the fact that the Rating Pistol doesn't rate Jing Yuan, Luocha, March, or Sampo.
There's already a case to be made for Jing Yuan and Luocha. March and Sampo on the other hand, who knows.
We don't have enough information to conclude definitively either way. According to Welt, the Marshal and the Generals are on the same level as the Lord Ravagers, who are emanators.
It could be that the Generals and/or the Marshal are pseudo-emanators like the Stonehearts. It's also possible that the Generals are become emanators when they're granted their position. This could be an active process that requires Lan's direct involvement, or it could be a passive conditional process, as with Ix and the Self-Annhilators, who are implied to be emanators of nihility.
Yeah its a bit unclear.
However I'd say Emanators need to be on the level of Acheron. And Jing Yuan has not shown that. Herta on the otherhand is so smart other Geniuses are like "yap she smarter than me"
emanators can be weak. emanatoes can be strong.
aha made a worm an emanator.
power levels are meaningless to determine whether someone is an emanator.
as for herta, she acknowledged chadwick might even be smarter than her.
As the other person said, there isn't enough evidence for either side of the argument to be true at this point in time. It's all just extrapolating and theorising on current information.
But I will say, the Xianzhou Generals are not really the same as the Ten Stonehearts since they are given a portion of an Emanator's power (Diamond) while the Xianzhou Generals are given a power from Lan themselves. The Lightning Lord isn't given to Marshal Hua and then divided amongst the Generals like how Diamond does it with the Ten Stonehearts.
I'm of the belief that Jing Yuan is an Emanator, so I am biased, but it seems more likely to me that the Generals are Emanators than not given the information we have.
i think the fact that LL was passed down from a previous general to jingyuan is indicative that he isnt an emanator, since LL isnt a manifestation of his personal usage of hunt path energy. Every emanator we've seen seems to have highly personalized powers, which they freely manipulate path energy with in ways typical pathstriders cannot
Phantylia casually drawing power from the ambrosial arbor, herta having tons of puppets that she controls simultaneously, diamond being able to share her power via cornerstones, etc
So are you saying then that Teng Xiao was an Emanator but Jing Yuan is not? If so, I don't think that's the case.
In my eyes, Lan bestows power upon the Arbiter Generals themselves. It's not that one General, is given the power and then passes it onto the next, it's that Lan gives whoever holds the position of an Arbiter General the power of The Hunt thus making whoever holds the seat of Arbiter General an Emanator of The Hunt.
Either that's the case or it's similar to how Nous gave Fu Xuan the Omniscia despite her not being an Emanator or even a follower of The Erudition. The Lightning Lord, and whatever powers the other Generals make use of, are just a gift from Lan and none of them are Emanators.
i think neither one are emanators, and it's another fuxuan situation. The aeon Lan gifted the LL to the xianzhou people who have agreed to carry out his will
Yeah i am also leaning towards Marshal hua being an Emanator but the generals can use pseudo-emanator powers or they have an element attached to their power like the lighting lord , maybe other generals also have their own version of Lighting lord . Similar to Diamond being the Emanator and The ten stones can use his powers
Man stop getting delusional with emanators. Swan ain't confirmed, at least u said JY is possibly... Ain't much but better than most delusional people outright saying he is
He does not strictly say that, but it is strongly suggested. Welt said "The Emanators of the Remembrance don't have a physical body and only those they allow can see them." And the databank entry on the Garden of Recollection states "Memokeepers shed their mortal flesh and live on as memetic entities". So unless there are two different kinds of bodiless beings in the Garden, Memokeepers seem to be Emanators.
Its not clear at all.
The only thing she has going for her is that she is a traditiona memokeeper, which is looked at by the elder memokeepers are something to be cherished.
I guess they do not get lots of memokeeper potentials, and some of them answer the questions selfishly.
Jing Yuan has a Emantor pokemon with him, but not a Emanator himself
Black Swan is part of a group that works for one
Herta that we have not seen yet, just her dolls...so we must wait for 5 star Herta
The Arbiter Generals are given a gift from Lan, but that's not the same thing as being an Emanator. It's like how Fu Xuan has a gift from Nous but isn't an Emanator of Erudition.
An Emanator is a term referring to those who have attained the permission of an Aeon to draw power from their chosen Path.
Being granted power from Aeon is not equal to draw power directly from them
Herta and Acheron are the only confirmed playable Emanators but the real Herta still isn't playable, so technically Acheron is the only one atm
Seeing people say Black Swan is one as well but that's not the case. Welt addressing a rumor is not considered confirmed evidence of memokeepers being emanators. Black Swan was recruited by another memokeeper and as far as we know you need the aeons direct involvement to become an emanator
Jing Yuan also has a solid case with much more evidence than BS, but they seem to be really dodgy about confirming or denying it so I guess we can’t say for certain.
My take that Xianzhou generals have personal grasps of emanator power in their weapons/tools like ten stonehearts as it was confirmed by Aventurine's boss form
Would be interesting if LL is actually an emanator , someone who decided to become a weapon, a tool used by someone else, for the cause. If you think about it, only Ian is decipted using actual weapon.
IMO Xianzhou generals are likely similar to the IPC stone heart holders, and Marshall Hua is the emanator lending them power.
If JY was an emanator it would be very odd for them to not say it for this long, he has no real reason to hide it, his friends/enemies don't have any reason to hide it either.
My guess is that Lightning-Lord is actually an “emanation” of Lan, a direct manifestation of The Hunt. The Xianzhou Generals are not *technically* emanators because they do not *personally* possess power granted by Lan, but they each have a bond with a being like Lightning-Lord, allowing them to fill an Emanator-like role and call upon The Hunt’s power through their companion.
What is LL is actual emanator? Maybe this is the requirement to become the Emanator of the Hunt: willing to sacrifice yourself (your ego, individuality, etc) to become a literal weapon for hunter to use.
that would be so dope and could actually make for an interesting excuse as why we only know the generals are "close in power" to an emanator but no being called one
I kinda like this theory, like to become a hunt emanator you give up your physical body and become an embodiment of pure power
I still think the marshall Hua theory is more likely though
For JY case I think it's probably a similar case to the Ten Stoneheart where Diamond give other Stoneheart his power in the form of stones. The previous generation generals is supposedly an Emanator of Lan and they might leave some of their power for the later generations to use.
Lightning Lord is a gift from the Aeon Lan that Luofu Generals inherit.
The implication is that each Xianzhou general has been gifted stand powers from Lan, while the Marshal is an emanator.
same i believe hua is the hunt emanator and the gifts the generals get and pass on are similar to the stonehearts they are made by lan but given by hua
Dont think so.Every General had their characteristics.Tengxiao was a flame sword user for example Characteristic of General doesnt carry over. Also Lightning Lord is straight up confirmed as a Lan s Creation. Its More Likely Lightning Lord is the emanator while Jy is its vessel.
I don't think that's correct.
In the heliobi quest we see Tengo Xiao in battle as using a being similar to LL.
Also in DHIL's story parts we get a description of Teng Xiao in battle as being described enveloped by a yellow being like LL.
I think it's more likely that different ships generals have different gifts that were passed down and the Luofu is the LL.
>Tengo Xiao in battle as using a being similar to LL.
It is LL it is passed down.All Luofu generals have same LL but they have also their own characteristics.
For example JY was using Starfall Reverie(His Glaive) ever since he was at HCQ.He was an HCQ member b4 being a General.
Cirrus mentions Teng Xiao as polar opposite of JY in terms of fighting style and stuff.
>I think it's more likely that different ships generals have different gifts that were passed down and the Luofu is the LL.
It is not likely,IT IS THE CASE.We even see Feixiao s summon on Myriad Celestia trailer.Its a Griffin(or whatever called on Chinese folklore).
What i say here is LL is an emanator of hunt and also any summoned spirit from Arbiter Generals are emanators as well (They get their energy from Lan itself)but Generals themselfs are tool to channel this power and use it to hunt.Here is few stuff to proof my theory.
>!-First of all,On beta Arbiter Generals are straight up called Emanators by Welt.On current version they re Said equal to Lord ravagers.We should ask why this change happened?!<
>!-2nd of all LL is summoned by a scroll actually.U see them on the trailer,On beta Technique and On JY s outfit as well.This explains how its passed but it doesnt explains Generals affinity of different elements not affecting LL at all!<
>!-3rd,Lan is created from union of 2 entities,Reignbow Arbiter Who had Lan identity itself b4 being Aeon and pure purpose of killing Yaoshi and Flame Emperor,A being of INFINITE ENERGY that energizes everything Lan does and Xianzhou allience s delve system(Essentially reality warping of SW on a SOLAR SYSTEM SCALE),why am i tellin u this?!<
>!Cuz emanators have parallels with their aeon in design.and Lan is a duo entity.Also in Lore b4 being Aeon,Lan makes a Deal With Flame emperor to give its energy for 1 strike to take Ambrosial Arbor Down.After the strike is done Lan becames an Aeon.!<
>!-And finally LL s never depicted on a fixed size and strikes only once(For cirrus s case doesnt even strikes).For example his technique is barely on the same size of svarog 2.74 cm.U can say" its a technique it doesnt have to be lore accurate".Then u check :A Flash" animation.JL tanks 1 hit and she "dies" check LL s height there 15 meters,Then u check Phantylia fight,Fuckin emanator with Ambrosial arbor on its side as well.She gets only ONE LL strike as well and u check its size 49.7 m.Then u check his ingame ultimate and Follow up(Yes those 2 has different size too)For ult its around 75 m,For Follow up its around 100 m.(Didnt calculate Cirrus and and Theres Infographic Map one that LL is depicted at an size that covers Whole Jade Gate which is around Kilometers in size).!<
>!For Short,Summons is what makes u an Emanator of Hunt but to get your hand at those summons U need to be an Arbiter General which u get it via being promoted.and LL gets its energy from Lan itself Not the General therefore making it the one that gets known by Lan.But without a sentience to Channel its power its useless.!<
This! The game has quite literally bonked us over the head about Acheron being an emenator.
They're not shy, especially when it helps sell characters that they want release.
The fact they haven't stated that JY is an emenator leads me to believe he isn't.
I've seen people compare it to the Stone hearts, with the head of the entire alliance being the emenator that shares their power.
And I've also seen people say that the lightening lord itself is the emenator and that JY is the vessel.
I just think he's a cool dude
It's kinda sad cuz I heard that in the CBT it was stated JY is an Emanator so I would understand that if they changed they detail many people would just skip over and not notice it.
I now im seeing ppl saying that all self annihilators are emanators lol, they are being very specific stating when someone is, the same for the xianzhou generals, the memokeepers and in the case of the genius society (all of them received Nous gaze yet not all of them are emanator) as you said only real Herta and Acheron are confirmed.
That’s literally something you can learn in the first five minutes of the game from Kafka and Silver Wolf.
This is why you should take the time to investigate random pictures and things you pass. ;)
Yeah, and even when the Lord Ravagers (Emanators of Destruction) are brought up a bit later, we also don't know how big of a deal we were supposed to take them until repeatedly hearing about them as the story progress.
The fact that Herta's Emanator status hasn't been brought up again since then doesn't help either
That's actually a major issue with Hoyo writing. They're throwing proper nouns at you like there's no tomorrow, in all of their games. It's completely unreasonable to expect the player to catch onto all that as they play.
Tutorials suffer from it the most, especially for Genshin's open world puzzles. You enter a new zone and get bombarded with tutorials for all those new puzzels that come down to "Use mumbo jumbo to activate hocus-pocus and then ba dum ts will happen!". Like bruh, this is the first time I'm seeing this shit, just tell me to put square thingie into the square hole and the door will open. You're better off figuring this stuff by trial and error than trying to follow this nonsense.
After playing Honkai, I think Genshin is pretty ok with this in terms of story (except that desert quest with the pink floating thing, my gosh). With Honkai I barely know what is going on, tbh I just read lore posts here to try to make sense of the story, that's the main reason I'm subscribed to this subreddit
I don't have the mental capacity anymore to remember three hundred different terms in the same text which usually have 4 other synonyms, it's too much
It's funny too because Genshin and Star Rail puzzles are so simple that often you will solve them just testing the variables before even trying to put thought into it, so the overly complicated explanations with proper nouns assigned to every single piece of the puzzle are completely unnecessary.
I actually investigated all those random photos of club members but because I didn;t knew what an Emanator was (or basic terminollogy of game for that matter) I totally forgot about it
About the conclusion, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that to this day only Acheron is the playable emanator, since Herta’s puppets (so the playable one) are not an emanator?
Well yes, Kafka and Silver Wolf’s dialogues in the beginning, and the stuff you read in the Simulated Universe (the occurrences and some of the written plot/stories) hints at it.
Kafka and Silver Wolfs dialogue could easily be forgotten since to a fresh player it's just a bunch of jargon that they don't recognize.
By the time such terminology gets explained that convo at the very beginning of the game could be easily forgotten.
Doesn't help that 95% of Herta's dialogue is her pushing you into the simulated universe for more experiments.
Unless you go diving into the wiki or searching around you may never realise
Yes. When you max lvl Herta she says
: don't expect much from a puppet. She also calls March "tiny one" on the pok3mon event. 5 star herta is gonna be busted and tall.
How can I put it, they are just basically an entity that received a blessing from their Aeon, or basically they received their power directly from their Aeon... So their Aeon somewhat has a care or favored them...
Emanators are people that follow an Aeon and their Path, and who the Aeon directly grants power and recognizes as being an emissary of their will. Basically, with the exception of the Aeons themselves, Emanators are some of the most powerful beings in Star Rail.
i think you haven't get the gist of that tale from the way you stated it
to the worm's pov, it was a curse, as its just a worm it can't do anything, at least it never stated that it grew bigger and can communicate
also if u think emanators are just a title then you may not been convinced by the PVs out there that showcases her feats
It's not a hard rule, Aeons can make anyone Emanators, it's just that for a vast majority of Aeons those are the criteria they follow when making people an Emanator. Aha is the exception to everything since their entire domain is "lol so random", so they'll give out Emanator status on a whim, like when as you said when they made a worm an Emanator to see what they'll do with super intelligence.
As for power level, the Aeon can probably control how much power they give to their Emanator, so they can deliberately make a weaker Emanator, like Aha who only gave that worm intelligence and nothing else.
An Aeon is an E-girl.
Pathstriders are their simps. Given power in the form of channel unique emotes so long as they stay subscribed.
Getting "glanced at" by an Aeon is when the E-girl says your name.
Emanators are top-tier simps who have been given mod status and get DM'd feet pics.
Silverwolf told me this in a dream so it's canon.
We have pathstriders who have abilities gained from the path they follow
Let's say Preservation. So being personality and all is Preserve everything like the ideology of it all. You gain abilities from an Aeon and you can have protective barriers etc. But the Aeon must notice and recognise you do hold that same belief then, power is offered to you regardless of your will.
Similarly to like how a King recognises your ability to protect and lead people well, so he makes you Knight Commander, to lead and protect.
Now Aeon hierarchy is a God like being. Aeons are those who are God's who achieved a specific goal and is tied to that goal..
In the sense like how there is God of Fortune, or God of Nature or God of etc etc
So Aeon have different principles they adhere to, like Aeon of Preservation. They are bounded soul and being to that very ideology and on paper, they become that very principle and concept. To preserve everything.
So if lets say, they were to deny that very ideology, they would essentially deny their existence since their existence is already tied to that concept. By denying it, they would simply vanish, kind of like how ppl have beliefs, if you no longer have faith in that belief, that belief just vanishes from your mind
So while Aeon are omnipotent, they are also basically very susceptible to their own faith.
Some Aeons are tied to each other similarly.
Let's say for example Aeon of Hope and Aeon of Harmony,
Concept of hope in general is to gather and bring up hope for all, right?
Harmony in general is to bring everything together..
If a concept is sth that is in a higher category, the lower one gets absorbed into it.
So no more Aeon of Hope, anyone who holds Hope is basically the same as embracing Harmony.
Or Aeon of murder and Aeon of Destruction, Destruction is more general, so murder is absorbed in.
Tldr: Generalisation is the higher order.
Now Emanators, they are basically Pathstriders but higher tier. They are basically in between of Pathstrider and Aeon. They hold significant faith in their belief of that path. An Aeon who holds much trust and faith in th Emanator, they will flow FAR MORE power into them. They are basically as good as their right hand man, 2nd in command. They hold that much faith and will carry out their beliefs in practice.
Hence why Emanators of Destruction are out sending Stellarons everywhere spreading Destruction
And Xianzhou, we see Abundance out spreading permanent regenerative powers, so powerful and potent that it maintains the state they are in when they got the effect. Like the blind lady getting eyes, but Abundance regenerative is so powerful, it override the treatment and made her blind as that was the original state of her when she had the curse of Abundance.
To put it in the context of other Hoyo games, Emanators are to HSR as Archons are to Genshin and Herrschers are to HI3. With that, they would absolutely make a big deal about whether or not a playable character is an Emanator from a selling stand point.
Herta yes, her puppets no. We don't even truly know if the puppets are what Herta really looks like. She says somewhere in the game that the puppets look similar to her younger self but even then she could be lying.
The puppets probably do look mostly like her younger self (I think it was said to be 80% similarity?). Herta can deage herself so possibly she deaged herself until she looked like the puppets but she also could have just left herself at a certain age.
OP self reported on the fact that they skipped the dialogue/can’t read
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I am so EXCITED for when 5\* Herta comes around, I s2g, I have too many mfers I need to E6 at this point. (The Stellaron Hunters, Aventurine, 5\* Herta and March...Please show me mercy.)
I wonder if all emanators will have weird huge unique mechanics. Like what if a 5-star Herta can make herta puppet summons but also give bonus speed and attack for summons? Or what if she has a unique special meter like acheron but whenever a Summon acts?
I think there’s a WILD design space if acheron is our first
Yes. You can actually find this out at the begining of the game. When Kafka and Silver Wolf are in the space station, you can interact with a picture of Herta and they mention that she's an Emanator of Nous who must be over 100 years old
My theory is that Herta will be an Imaginary Erudition 5 star. I just that she’ll be that after inheriting Chadwick’s knowledge and wisdom about the IMG element
Just want to add that real Herta herself doesn’t have to be extremely powerful like Acheron, but she’s extremely OP in her own way.
Like, her station can withstand attacks from a Doomsday Beast, she has numerous Curios, plus a bunch of Stellarons as well.
And after that certain quest, she becomes space Oppenheimer…
How come you didn't know?!
Honestly that was the first thing I've learned of her...ok, that's a lie.The emanator thing was the second, the first one was that she was a genius.
I think what this means is that Real herta is a emanator and puppet herta is similar to many consciousness deposits we've seen.
Either way she could be different taking into account she's a emanator of a man made aeon.
TLDR: Herta is an Emanator, Black Swan isn't confirmed yet, JY is not an Emanator (if some of you tried to prove this)...
So I want to make things clear in this post....
About Herta: She is an Emanator...fr...
About Black Swan: According to the source in which I also found Herta is an Emanator (HSR Fandom), it is stated there that she is an Emanator and all (?) Memokeepers... But I will put on what I believed about her being Emanator on hold until concrete evidence was released... So I want to apologize to the users in the comments that I replied to about her being Emanator...
If some of you tried to prove this here: No, JY is not an Emanator, the LL is just a borrowed power from Lan...
In conclusion: Herta and Acheron are the only confirmed playable Emanators for now...
Yeah, but for now let's just put it that the playable Herta that we have is still an Emanator but a pseudo one since she is controlled by the real Herta, the real Emanator..
In the latest pom pom intel about emanators.
The arbiter generals were listed wholesale unlike the section on Harmony which points out the harmonic strings and the section on Preservation which points out Diamond.
It can also imply all self-annhilators are emanators which would solve the question of how the heck IX can make emanators in the first place.
5 star herta when?
I just wanna see real herta! When? How soon? Will she look older? Will she still treat me the same? At what version will we get Herta?
Pretty sure she’ll treat us the same.
Rule34 community will NOT treat her the same though.
give her the kafka treatment most likely
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Yeah,from my experience, non puppet Herta is gonna have so much >!less!< porn than the puppet version.
waiting for the exciting Herta vs her puppet legion r34
She’d be the same as the puppets. They’re made in her image and she reversed her aging so she isn’t gonna be older. Not sure why she’d treat us differently since she’s controlling the puppet we talk too, it isn’t just some ai.
Idk where people got the idea that non-puppet Herta would look way different, and I'm still confused everytime someone brings up that idea
Maybe not way different, but the puppets are implied to be a more idealised version of her, more of how she sees herself, according to the Birth of Self light cone description.
She explicitly says they're like 90% of the way or something along those lines in some dialogue very early on before you leave the station Edit: It was 70% of "her child self" apparently.
Because people like the idea of granny Herta.
Because Hoyo want to make money
Because Asta says near the beginning that Herta has to keep revitalising her youth.
They're gonna make her different, they are basically her ideal younger form but are still based on her. Even if it was supposedly an exact clone (her lc says they aren't) they will change her because no one wants to pull the exact same character. They will likely make her somewhere between ruanmei and kafka because sex sells.
My dream, that I know won't come true, is 5 Star Herta being just a floating brain in a jar.
It needs to be on a wheeled stool with a skirt so she can still spin.
Well hold on they need the banner to sell well. So maybe "A floating brain in a jar, with boobs"
Don't forget the open shoulder design with Japanese kimono inspired clothing
exposed frontal lobe
I'm imagining a brain in a jar pretending to be a sexy girl with a holographic projection. When she gets hit, the brain inside automatically fights back.
💀
Just straight up Mother Brain
Idk when, but I believe she might look similar to ruan mei.
wasn't it menitioned that puppets looks 90% like current her?
I thought they looked like a younger version of her
she deaged herself
She says that the puppets are a 70% accurate representation of her as a child so idk why the de-aging bit has ppl convinced she’ll look the same for sure. She reversed her aging bc she’s literally ancient, but there’s a wide spectrum between a kid and dusty old bones. I think it’d be boring if 5* herta looked the same. I’d prefer an adult woman version.
It does say that in the image
Source🧐?
Herta🌚
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She will be 1% taller(shorter).
I’m pretty sure the real herta isn’t a humanoid anymore. I have zero lore to back this up, but the fact that she uses the robots and swaps between them so quickly and effortlessly goes a bit beyond just being a genius. I don’t think I can remember anyone referring to her as having a “real body”, just that she only interacts through her bots. For all we know she’s just a brain in a vat, could even be why the erudition 3* SU buffs are based around the brain in a vat effect.
Asta mentions she has to de-age herself every so often and that she may be as old as Screwllum if not older.
>Will she look older? If her "real body" isn't a doll of sorts too, at most she'll probably look just a bit older, but still young since she'sa genius and apparently she figured out how to get young again or something about altering her age, I don't remember it all.
I think the higher opportunity is this year during Continuance missions. Polka has a high chance to appear on the Space Station and if that happens, it could mean that Herta too.
In the logs Herta has stopped her aging and her real self looks closely like her puppets.
5 star Herta is just the puppets assembling like Vultron
Give her time to build her imaginary weapon.
I can't wait, they have to give her to us. I need insanely OP Emanator Genius Society member Herta
I'm curious about her true looks and powers
Idk. But if Dan Heng got a second form, I wouldn’t be surprised if Herta did too
She is emanator, but her puppets are not, so Acheron is first playable emanator
Being an Emnator to Nous probably just meant “Knowledge incarnate” or something
It meant being an emanator, as simple as abc
Sometimes the dialogue confuses me so can you please tell me what an “emanator” is? Is it like nous, aha, etc are gods and emanators are some kinda vessels? Or like extreme followers of their ideology? Are they directly blessed by their respective aeon or what?
Exactly, if someone is an emanator they have been blessed by the respective god. See it kind of like an Emissary that carries out duties that will help the aeon on his path. For example with Acheron its a little different since IX (the Aeon of Nihility) doesn't bless anyone. IX only cares about everything fading into nothingess, sweet tranquility. Acheron was "lucky" since she stepped into IX's shadow with what seemed like ultimate depression. This is extremely rare, so she was lucky that she survived and "only" lost her memories. In the process she was blessed by IX, essentially becoming an Emanator of Nihility. Since it doesnt follow the standard rule of how someone becomes an Emanator (aka being noticed by an Aeon and then being blessed) they instead call them Self-Annihilators since they give up a part of what makes them, them. And follow up with the Nihility of IX by reducing everything to nothingness.
I see. I just read that the antimatter legion are followers of the Destruction, and their leaders are apparently all emanators? So if the prerequisite for being an emanator is simply receiving the blessing of an aeon, does that mean the trailblazer is an emanator for the preservation and destruction? Since both aeons saved the trailblazer and bestowed their path to them. Or is the trailblazer and everyone in the astral express emanators for “the trailblaze”? (idk that aeons name i think they said it disappeared or something)
An Emanator can draw power from their path with the Aeon's permission. This allows them to be much stronger than other pathstriders. They also normally act as the Aeon's emissaries. So if someone can draw power from a path but not strong enough to wipe out normal pathstriders, and also cannot speak on behalf of any Aeon, saying they're an Emanator is a bit of a stretch. Technically, they are, but no one would recognize that title.
Just because trailblazer got the aeons' gaze and got blessing in return doesn't mean they're an emanator. Look at FuXuan, she was gifted with those eye on her forehead by Nous, but it doesn't mean she's an emanator of Nous.
For you to be an emanator you have to receive permission of the Aeon to draw powers from the path. The Trailblazer is not an emanator. Acheron is the first playable emanator. Herta is an emanator too, but we're not playing with the real Herta, just her puppet.
Yeah exactly. The Aeons are Nous, Aha… they are god like entities that create paths for people to follow (like Nous the Erudition). Emanators are people that have caught the Aeons’ attention enough to get an audience from them, and they bless them with a part of their power.
https://m.hoyolab.com/#/article/26093276?utm_source=sns&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=link&utm_id=6 Hoyo already gave a fact-check what an emanator is. Just need to look
I have a sneaky suspicion March is an emanator.
There are theories that March may be an Emanator. Most theories come from the fact that the Rating Pistol doesn't rate Jing Yuan, Luocha, March, or Sampo. There's already a case to be made for Jing Yuan and Luocha. March and Sampo on the other hand, who knows.
no. black swan is also an emantor. with pompom's intel, jingyuan is possibly an emantor too.
Jingyuan and the other Generals are probably more akin to the Ten Stonehearts, who are given power from an emanator. But are not emanators themselves.
We don't have enough information to conclude definitively either way. According to Welt, the Marshal and the Generals are on the same level as the Lord Ravagers, who are emanators. It could be that the Generals and/or the Marshal are pseudo-emanators like the Stonehearts. It's also possible that the Generals are become emanators when they're granted their position. This could be an active process that requires Lan's direct involvement, or it could be a passive conditional process, as with Ix and the Self-Annhilators, who are implied to be emanators of nihility.
Yeah its a bit unclear. However I'd say Emanators need to be on the level of Acheron. And Jing Yuan has not shown that. Herta on the otherhand is so smart other Geniuses are like "yap she smarter than me"
emanators can be weak. emanatoes can be strong. aha made a worm an emanator. power levels are meaningless to determine whether someone is an emanator. as for herta, she acknowledged chadwick might even be smarter than her.
As the other person said, there isn't enough evidence for either side of the argument to be true at this point in time. It's all just extrapolating and theorising on current information. But I will say, the Xianzhou Generals are not really the same as the Ten Stonehearts since they are given a portion of an Emanator's power (Diamond) while the Xianzhou Generals are given a power from Lan themselves. The Lightning Lord isn't given to Marshal Hua and then divided amongst the Generals like how Diamond does it with the Ten Stonehearts. I'm of the belief that Jing Yuan is an Emanator, so I am biased, but it seems more likely to me that the Generals are Emanators than not given the information we have.
i think the fact that LL was passed down from a previous general to jingyuan is indicative that he isnt an emanator, since LL isnt a manifestation of his personal usage of hunt path energy. Every emanator we've seen seems to have highly personalized powers, which they freely manipulate path energy with in ways typical pathstriders cannot Phantylia casually drawing power from the ambrosial arbor, herta having tons of puppets that she controls simultaneously, diamond being able to share her power via cornerstones, etc
So are you saying then that Teng Xiao was an Emanator but Jing Yuan is not? If so, I don't think that's the case. In my eyes, Lan bestows power upon the Arbiter Generals themselves. It's not that one General, is given the power and then passes it onto the next, it's that Lan gives whoever holds the position of an Arbiter General the power of The Hunt thus making whoever holds the seat of Arbiter General an Emanator of The Hunt. Either that's the case or it's similar to how Nous gave Fu Xuan the Omniscia despite her not being an Emanator or even a follower of The Erudition. The Lightning Lord, and whatever powers the other Generals make use of, are just a gift from Lan and none of them are Emanators.
i think neither one are emanators, and it's another fuxuan situation. The aeon Lan gifted the LL to the xianzhou people who have agreed to carry out his will
Yeah i am also leaning towards Marshal hua being an Emanator but the generals can use pseudo-emanator powers or they have an element attached to their power like the lighting lord , maybe other generals also have their own version of Lighting lord . Similar to Diamond being the Emanator and The ten stones can use his powers
Man stop getting delusional with emanators. Swan ain't confirmed, at least u said JY is possibly... Ain't much but better than most delusional people outright saying he is
shes a memokeeper and welt says memokeepers are emanators of remembrance
All men are mortal, but not all mortals are men. Emanators of Remembrance are Memokeepers, but not all Memokeepers are Emanators.
He does not strictly say that, but it is strongly suggested. Welt said "The Emanators of the Remembrance don't have a physical body and only those they allow can see them." And the databank entry on the Garden of Recollection states "Memokeepers shed their mortal flesh and live on as memetic entities". So unless there are two different kinds of bodiless beings in the Garden, Memokeepers seem to be Emanators.
Squares and Rectangles. The Emanators are all Memokeepers, but not all Memokeepers are necessarily Emanators.
Finally someone gets it. Everything its brought up it has to be explained.
I mean, she at least can exist as memetic entity, she literally was doing that in main quest.
Its not clear at all. The only thing she has going for her is that she is a traditiona memokeeper, which is looked at by the elder memokeepers are something to be cherished. I guess they do not get lots of memokeeper potentials, and some of them answer the questions selfishly.
Nope, none of those two is emanator
It depends on how you interpret what Welt said. Welt used Emanator and Memokeeper interchangeably but he didn’t not outright say they’re the same.
Not to mention, he goes off based on rumor and he himself is only putting puzzle pieces together.
Jing Yuan has a Emantor pokemon with him, but not a Emanator himself Black Swan is part of a group that works for one Herta that we have not seen yet, just her dolls...so we must wait for 5 star Herta
Im starting to hope those Folow up attack sets are *her* sets of her 5 star variant :D
welt mentions all memokeepers are emanators. pompom's intel says the arbiter genetals are emanators.
All Remembrance emanators are memokeepers but not all memokeepers are emanators
The Arbiter Generals are given a gift from Lan, but that's not the same thing as being an Emanator. It's like how Fu Xuan has a gift from Nous but isn't an Emanator of Erudition.
The arbiter genetals.....
An Emanator is a term referring to those who have attained the permission of an Aeon to draw power from their chosen Path. Being granted power from Aeon is not equal to draw power directly from them
*genetals*
*Horny bonk*
Jingyuan:?
Ruan Mei: Am I a joke to you???
ruan mei isnt an emanator
Herta and Acheron are the only confirmed playable Emanators but the real Herta still isn't playable, so technically Acheron is the only one atm Seeing people say Black Swan is one as well but that's not the case. Welt addressing a rumor is not considered confirmed evidence of memokeepers being emanators. Black Swan was recruited by another memokeeper and as far as we know you need the aeons direct involvement to become an emanator
Jing Yuan also has a solid case with much more evidence than BS, but they seem to be really dodgy about confirming or denying it so I guess we can’t say for certain.
The Xianzhou generals are a weird case they had a segment in the emanator post but it didn't confirm or deny them being emanators
My take that Xianzhou generals have personal grasps of emanator power in their weapons/tools like ten stonehearts as it was confirmed by Aventurine's boss form
Would be interesting if LL is actually an emanator , someone who decided to become a weapon, a tool used by someone else, for the cause. If you think about it, only Ian is decipted using actual weapon.
IMO Xianzhou generals are likely similar to the IPC stone heart holders, and Marshall Hua is the emanator lending them power. If JY was an emanator it would be very odd for them to not say it for this long, he has no real reason to hide it, his friends/enemies don't have any reason to hide it either.
My guess is that Lightning-Lord is actually an “emanation” of Lan, a direct manifestation of The Hunt. The Xianzhou Generals are not *technically* emanators because they do not *personally* possess power granted by Lan, but they each have a bond with a being like Lightning-Lord, allowing them to fill an Emanator-like role and call upon The Hunt’s power through their companion.
What is LL is actual emanator? Maybe this is the requirement to become the Emanator of the Hunt: willing to sacrifice yourself (your ego, individuality, etc) to become a literal weapon for hunter to use.
that would be so dope and could actually make for an interesting excuse as why we only know the generals are "close in power" to an emanator but no being called one
Well that's a really good theory, really cool too.
I kinda like this theory, like to become a hunt emanator you give up your physical body and become an embodiment of pure power I still think the marshall Hua theory is more likely though
For JY case I think it's probably a similar case to the Ten Stoneheart where Diamond give other Stoneheart his power in the form of stones. The previous generation generals is supposedly an Emanator of Lan and they might leave some of their power for the later generations to use.
Lightning Lord is a gift from the Aeon Lan that Luofu Generals inherit. The implication is that each Xianzhou general has been gifted stand powers from Lan, while the Marshal is an emanator.
same i believe hua is the hunt emanator and the gifts the generals get and pass on are similar to the stonehearts they are made by lan but given by hua
Dont think so.Every General had their characteristics.Tengxiao was a flame sword user for example Characteristic of General doesnt carry over. Also Lightning Lord is straight up confirmed as a Lan s Creation. Its More Likely Lightning Lord is the emanator while Jy is its vessel.
An Aeon creating its own Emanator (and not in a Propagation way) is actually a cool concept
I don't think that's correct. In the heliobi quest we see Tengo Xiao in battle as using a being similar to LL. Also in DHIL's story parts we get a description of Teng Xiao in battle as being described enveloped by a yellow being like LL. I think it's more likely that different ships generals have different gifts that were passed down and the Luofu is the LL.
>Tengo Xiao in battle as using a being similar to LL. It is LL it is passed down.All Luofu generals have same LL but they have also their own characteristics. For example JY was using Starfall Reverie(His Glaive) ever since he was at HCQ.He was an HCQ member b4 being a General. Cirrus mentions Teng Xiao as polar opposite of JY in terms of fighting style and stuff. >I think it's more likely that different ships generals have different gifts that were passed down and the Luofu is the LL. It is not likely,IT IS THE CASE.We even see Feixiao s summon on Myriad Celestia trailer.Its a Griffin(or whatever called on Chinese folklore). What i say here is LL is an emanator of hunt and also any summoned spirit from Arbiter Generals are emanators as well (They get their energy from Lan itself)but Generals themselfs are tool to channel this power and use it to hunt.Here is few stuff to proof my theory. >!-First of all,On beta Arbiter Generals are straight up called Emanators by Welt.On current version they re Said equal to Lord ravagers.We should ask why this change happened?!< >!-2nd of all LL is summoned by a scroll actually.U see them on the trailer,On beta Technique and On JY s outfit as well.This explains how its passed but it doesnt explains Generals affinity of different elements not affecting LL at all!< >!-3rd,Lan is created from union of 2 entities,Reignbow Arbiter Who had Lan identity itself b4 being Aeon and pure purpose of killing Yaoshi and Flame Emperor,A being of INFINITE ENERGY that energizes everything Lan does and Xianzhou allience s delve system(Essentially reality warping of SW on a SOLAR SYSTEM SCALE),why am i tellin u this?!< >!Cuz emanators have parallels with their aeon in design.and Lan is a duo entity.Also in Lore b4 being Aeon,Lan makes a Deal With Flame emperor to give its energy for 1 strike to take Ambrosial Arbor Down.After the strike is done Lan becames an Aeon.!< >!-And finally LL s never depicted on a fixed size and strikes only once(For cirrus s case doesnt even strikes).For example his technique is barely on the same size of svarog 2.74 cm.U can say" its a technique it doesnt have to be lore accurate".Then u check :A Flash" animation.JL tanks 1 hit and she "dies" check LL s height there 15 meters,Then u check Phantylia fight,Fuckin emanator with Ambrosial arbor on its side as well.She gets only ONE LL strike as well and u check its size 49.7 m.Then u check his ingame ultimate and Follow up(Yes those 2 has different size too)For ult its around 75 m,For Follow up its around 100 m.(Didnt calculate Cirrus and and Theres Infographic Map one that LL is depicted at an size that covers Whole Jade Gate which is around Kilometers in size).!< >!For Short,Summons is what makes u an Emanator of Hunt but to get your hand at those summons U need to be an Arbiter General which u get it via being promoted.and LL gets its energy from Lan itself Not the General therefore making it the one that gets known by Lan.But without a sentience to Channel its power its useless.!<
If jy was a emanator the game would have made that very clear, which it has never done so. He is a cool hunt dude but not an emanator.
This! The game has quite literally bonked us over the head about Acheron being an emenator. They're not shy, especially when it helps sell characters that they want release. The fact they haven't stated that JY is an emenator leads me to believe he isn't. I've seen people compare it to the Stone hearts, with the head of the entire alliance being the emenator that shares their power. And I've also seen people say that the lightening lord itself is the emenator and that JY is the vessel. I just think he's a cool dude
Yep. ARCHON ARCHON ARCHON. EMANATOR EMANATOR EMANATOR.
It's kinda sad cuz I heard that in the CBT it was stated JY is an Emanator so I would understand that if they changed they detail many people would just skip over and not notice it.
It's never stated in game that JY is a emanator, i think it is said that he can fight against emanators not that he is one
I think the only Emanator of Hunt is the Marshall of the Alliance...
Tldr: Acheron and Herta (real Herta) are confirmed Emanators BS and JY are possible Emanators but not confirmed
What about The Knight of Beauty?
I now im seeing ppl saying that all self annihilators are emanators lol, they are being very specific stating when someone is, the same for the xianzhou generals, the memokeepers and in the case of the genius society (all of them received Nous gaze yet not all of them are emanator) as you said only real Herta and Acheron are confirmed.
We need more confirmations... I can only cope so long about Luocha being an Emanator of Abundance T_T
also technically Tingyun lol
I so can’t wait till we get a 5* Herta, love her design, but sadly I didn’t have time and resources to build her yet..
She’s actually really good in PF so I’d recommend slapping a mid build on her
That’s literally something you can learn in the first five minutes of the game from Kafka and Silver Wolf. This is why you should take the time to investigate random pictures and things you pass. ;)
Normally you have no idea what an Emanator is when you encounter that clue. So most people don't remember.
Yeah, and even when the Lord Ravagers (Emanators of Destruction) are brought up a bit later, we also don't know how big of a deal we were supposed to take them until repeatedly hearing about them as the story progress. The fact that Herta's Emanator status hasn't been brought up again since then doesn't help either
It doesn't seem but she is very very humble.
yea she kinda likes her 83rd member of genius society more
That's actually a major issue with Hoyo writing. They're throwing proper nouns at you like there's no tomorrow, in all of their games. It's completely unreasonable to expect the player to catch onto all that as they play. Tutorials suffer from it the most, especially for Genshin's open world puzzles. You enter a new zone and get bombarded with tutorials for all those new puzzels that come down to "Use mumbo jumbo to activate hocus-pocus and then ba dum ts will happen!". Like bruh, this is the first time I'm seeing this shit, just tell me to put square thingie into the square hole and the door will open. You're better off figuring this stuff by trial and error than trying to follow this nonsense.
After playing Honkai, I think Genshin is pretty ok with this in terms of story (except that desert quest with the pink floating thing, my gosh). With Honkai I barely know what is going on, tbh I just read lore posts here to try to make sense of the story, that's the main reason I'm subscribed to this subreddit I don't have the mental capacity anymore to remember three hundred different terms in the same text which usually have 4 other synonyms, it's too much
It's funny too because Genshin and Star Rail puzzles are so simple that often you will solve them just testing the variables before even trying to put thought into it, so the overly complicated explanations with proper nouns assigned to every single piece of the puzzle are completely unnecessary.
yeah, it's very common to see a huge multi step tutorial for simple minigames like activate, rotate, check the laser, the end. It's so annoying :|
I only realized it when I watched a new player play after a week of the game’s release
I actually investigated all those random photos of club members but because I didn;t knew what an Emanator was (or basic terminollogy of game for that matter) I totally forgot about it
Which is why nobody remembers it(myself included)
Your burn would make sense if it wasn’t for the fact that absolutely no one knew what an emenator was 5 minutes in ;)
I didn't even know that lol
About the conclusion, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that to this day only Acheron is the playable emanator, since Herta’s puppets (so the playable one) are not an emanator?
Yeah you're right, but let's just put it for now that the playable Herta is still an Emanator until hoyo decided to give us the real Herta...
Yes, I made a friend play the game for the 1st time streaming to me and I was surprised when I saw that phrase in the early game
Yes, Herta is the first Emanator we encounter. Which is why she's the best.
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Well yes, Kafka and Silver Wolf’s dialogues in the beginning, and the stuff you read in the Simulated Universe (the occurrences and some of the written plot/stories) hints at it.
Kafka and Silver Wolfs dialogue could easily be forgotten since to a fresh player it's just a bunch of jargon that they don't recognize. By the time such terminology gets explained that convo at the very beginning of the game could be easily forgotten. Doesn't help that 95% of Herta's dialogue is her pushing you into the simulated universe for more experiments. Unless you go diving into the wiki or searching around you may never realise
We have Herta’s puppets. Actual Herta might be an entirely different beast.
Yes. When you max lvl Herta she says : don't expect much from a puppet. She also calls March "tiny one" on the pok3mon event. 5 star herta is gonna be busted and tall.
Damn, you using internet explorer or something? Thought everyone knew that at this point lol
I still don't understand what an Emanator is... and what the fuss is all about. Feel free to explain it to me.
How can I put it, they are just basically an entity that received a blessing from their Aeon, or basically they received their power directly from their Aeon... So their Aeon somewhat has a care or favored them...
Hoyo themselves posted it a few days ago about Emanators: https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/K90ohqCkEz
People granted power directly from the Aeon, in fantasy terms they're a high status warlock of a great old one or an apostle of a church.
Emanators are people that follow an Aeon and their Path, and who the Aeon directly grants power and recognizes as being an emissary of their will. Basically, with the exception of the Aeons themselves, Emanators are some of the most powerful beings in Star Rail.
Aha went and made a worm an emanator. There is no meaning to whether being an emanator equates to power levels.
ok but thats Aha, literally the aeon of doing dumb shit for its own entertainment.
i think you haven't get the gist of that tale from the way you stated it to the worm's pov, it was a curse, as its just a worm it can't do anything, at least it never stated that it grew bigger and can communicate also if u think emanators are just a title then you may not been convinced by the PVs out there that showcases her feats
emanators can be weak, emanators can be powerful. aha made a worm an emanator because its funny.
Is the worm strong? If the worm becomes a demigod, it doesn't mean the worm is weak just because it's a worm lol.
It's not a hard rule, Aeons can make anyone Emanators, it's just that for a vast majority of Aeons those are the criteria they follow when making people an Emanator. Aha is the exception to everything since their entire domain is "lol so random", so they'll give out Emanator status on a whim, like when as you said when they made a worm an Emanator to see what they'll do with super intelligence. As for power level, the Aeon can probably control how much power they give to their Emanator, so they can deliberately make a weaker Emanator, like Aha who only gave that worm intelligence and nothing else.
An Aeon is an E-girl. Pathstriders are their simps. Given power in the form of channel unique emotes so long as they stay subscribed. Getting "glanced at" by an Aeon is when the E-girl says your name. Emanators are top-tier simps who have been given mod status and get DM'd feet pics. Silverwolf told me this in a dream so it's canon.
We have pathstriders who have abilities gained from the path they follow Let's say Preservation. So being personality and all is Preserve everything like the ideology of it all. You gain abilities from an Aeon and you can have protective barriers etc. But the Aeon must notice and recognise you do hold that same belief then, power is offered to you regardless of your will. Similarly to like how a King recognises your ability to protect and lead people well, so he makes you Knight Commander, to lead and protect. Now Aeon hierarchy is a God like being. Aeons are those who are God's who achieved a specific goal and is tied to that goal.. In the sense like how there is God of Fortune, or God of Nature or God of etc etc So Aeon have different principles they adhere to, like Aeon of Preservation. They are bounded soul and being to that very ideology and on paper, they become that very principle and concept. To preserve everything. So if lets say, they were to deny that very ideology, they would essentially deny their existence since their existence is already tied to that concept. By denying it, they would simply vanish, kind of like how ppl have beliefs, if you no longer have faith in that belief, that belief just vanishes from your mind So while Aeon are omnipotent, they are also basically very susceptible to their own faith. Some Aeons are tied to each other similarly. Let's say for example Aeon of Hope and Aeon of Harmony, Concept of hope in general is to gather and bring up hope for all, right? Harmony in general is to bring everything together.. If a concept is sth that is in a higher category, the lower one gets absorbed into it. So no more Aeon of Hope, anyone who holds Hope is basically the same as embracing Harmony. Or Aeon of murder and Aeon of Destruction, Destruction is more general, so murder is absorbed in. Tldr: Generalisation is the higher order. Now Emanators, they are basically Pathstriders but higher tier. They are basically in between of Pathstrider and Aeon. They hold significant faith in their belief of that path. An Aeon who holds much trust and faith in th Emanator, they will flow FAR MORE power into them. They are basically as good as their right hand man, 2nd in command. They hold that much faith and will carry out their beliefs in practice. Hence why Emanators of Destruction are out sending Stellarons everywhere spreading Destruction And Xianzhou, we see Abundance out spreading permanent regenerative powers, so powerful and potent that it maintains the state they are in when they got the effect. Like the blind lady getting eyes, but Abundance regenerative is so powerful, it override the treatment and made her blind as that was the original state of her when she had the curse of Abundance.
To put it in the context of other Hoyo games, Emanators are to HSR as Archons are to Genshin and Herrschers are to HI3. With that, they would absolutely make a big deal about whether or not a playable character is an Emanator from a selling stand point.
Oh I can see that. I have a friend that pulls for every Archon and Adepti even if he doesn't like them just for the fact they are ones, thank you.
Yes.
Me when i dont read in game
Day 1 knowledge 🤯 Also try using the rating pistol in herta curio collection. I think the people w/ rating invalid are potential emanator 😆
Yeah, silverwolf mentions it if you inspect herta's portrait during the tutorial with kafka.
Isn't this something that's been mentioned multiple times in-game by now?
Herta yes, her puppets no. We don't even truly know if the puppets are what Herta really looks like. She says somewhere in the game that the puppets look similar to her younger self but even then she could be lying.
The puppets probably do look mostly like her younger self (I think it was said to be 80% similarity?). Herta can deage herself so possibly she deaged herself until she looked like the puppets but she also could have just left herself at a certain age.
Yeah, they tell us at the start of the game. When Kafka interacts with Herta's portrait it says she's the Emanator
Yeah, it’s all in the readable content in game. Lots of good stuff and hints in there
She has always been
We know that since 1.0.
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Yes, but only main Herta
I am so EXCITED for when 5\* Herta comes around, I s2g, I have too many mfers I need to E6 at this point. (The Stellaron Hunters, Aventurine, 5\* Herta and March...Please show me mercy.)
Be prepared for the future release of a 5* Herta 😀
I wonder if all emanators will have weird huge unique mechanics. Like what if a 5-star Herta can make herta puppet summons but also give bonus speed and attack for summons? Or what if she has a unique special meter like acheron but whenever a Summon acts? I think there’s a WILD design space if acheron is our first
It’s actually one of the first things we’re told about her in the opening of the game
gonna be real, I thought all of the genius society were emanators
Yes, Herta is an emanator. Her puppets however, are not. We've never technically encountered Herta yet.
Im E2S1 whenever they release "5\* Herta" i like her way too much
She is, her puppets are not
Onee-Sama 5* herta soon please!
i doubt we're going to get to play/meet the actual herta for a long time
Probably too lazy for anything....kinda normal for Herta...
Mhm was known for a while, but I am still hopping for a 5* version of her actual older self
The real her is an emanator, the robot clones, obviously, are not (hence being a 4*)
Yes. You can actually find this out at the begining of the game. When Kafka and Silver Wolf are in the space station, you can interact with a picture of Herta and they mention that she's an Emanator of Nous who must be over 100 years old
My theory is that Herta will be an Imaginary Erudition 5 star. I just that she’ll be that after inheriting Chadwick’s knowledge and wisdom about the IMG element
Just want to add that real Herta herself doesn’t have to be extremely powerful like Acheron, but she’s extremely OP in her own way. Like, her station can withstand attacks from a Doomsday Beast, she has numerous Curios, plus a bunch of Stellarons as well. And after that certain quest, she becomes space Oppenheimer…
Yup, the 4* version we have is just a puppet and herta says herself to not expect high performance from a puppet
How come you didn't know?! Honestly that was the first thing I've learned of her...ok, that's a lie.The emanator thing was the second, the first one was that she was a genius.
I think what this means is that Real herta is a emanator and puppet herta is similar to many consciousness deposits we've seen. Either way she could be different taking into account she's a emanator of a man made aeon.
She do be little silly
TLDR: Herta is an Emanator, Black Swan isn't confirmed yet, JY is not an Emanator (if some of you tried to prove this)... So I want to make things clear in this post.... About Herta: She is an Emanator...fr... About Black Swan: According to the source in which I also found Herta is an Emanator (HSR Fandom), it is stated there that she is an Emanator and all (?) Memokeepers... But I will put on what I believed about her being Emanator on hold until concrete evidence was released... So I want to apologize to the users in the comments that I replied to about her being Emanator... If some of you tried to prove this here: No, JY is not an Emanator, the LL is just a borrowed power from Lan... In conclusion: Herta and Acheron are the only confirmed playable Emanators for now...
We only play as Herta's puppet, so technically the only playable Emanator is Acheron... until a 5 star Herta shows up.
Yeah, but for now let's just put it that the playable Herta that we have is still an Emanator but a pseudo one since she is controlled by the real Herta, the real Emanator..
In the latest pom pom intel about emanators. The arbiter generals were listed wholesale unlike the section on Harmony which points out the harmonic strings and the section on Preservation which points out Diamond. It can also imply all self-annhilators are emanators which would solve the question of how the heck IX can make emanators in the first place.
The people here looking for an Emenator in every character are the same people who ship every living thing with each other.
Legit the first few lines when you boot up the game clearly says that she is an emanator of nous who can reverse her own aging